Why Superheroes are like Classic Monsters - Cinemassacre

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Cinemassacre

Cinemassacre

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@JamesNintendoNerd
@JamesNintendoNerd 4 жыл бұрын
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@MHBlackSkarlet
@MHBlackSkarlet 4 жыл бұрын
What the angry nerd thinks about every copy Mario 64 is personalised?
@Novyar
@Novyar 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂 wait until he finds out about Devil Hulk. Now hes a REAL monster.
@MHBlackSkarlet
@MHBlackSkarlet 4 жыл бұрын
@Tony With A Side Of Crust is that better?
@saintfisuto1072
@saintfisuto1072 4 жыл бұрын
@@MHBlackSkarlet we 2
@larryisntmynamebutyoucanca9625
@larryisntmynamebutyoucanca9625 4 жыл бұрын
Love you, James! Hope you and your family are well.
@metfan4l
@metfan4l 4 жыл бұрын
These are by far my favorite kind of videos, informative and entertaining.
@mikesims5301
@mikesims5301 4 жыл бұрын
This is the best version of Cinemassacre
@antonhei2443
@antonhei2443 4 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%
@jmatseas
@jmatseas 4 жыл бұрын
Same here
@andykromer3529
@andykromer3529 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest Metallica fan himself watches AVGN? What a crossover!
@brunomoraes9967
@brunomoraes9967 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, James has great communication skills and it's amazing to see what he can achieve when being serious
@chemergency
@chemergency 4 жыл бұрын
Darkman, The Crow, and RoboCop are perfect examples of superhero films where the hero is more like a classic Universal monster in a lot of ways.
@LV426Resident
@LV426Resident Жыл бұрын
Those are my top 3 favorite non Marvel or DC “superhero” movies
@rawmaw
@rawmaw 2 ай бұрын
I really wouldn't personally label them as "superhero" movies, but I know exactly what it is you mean.
@K1NGSSTH
@K1NGSSTH 4 жыл бұрын
It's so weird seeing James talking about Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde without cursing
@HelpMe_OrNot
@HelpMe_OrNot 4 жыл бұрын
@Mattress Store how dare you say something so accurate 😅
@michaelsalmon5630
@michaelsalmon5630 4 жыл бұрын
Would have been funny if the ljn logo appeared in the background
@lloydchristmas4547
@lloydchristmas4547 4 жыл бұрын
😄
@nicholaslienandjaja1815
@nicholaslienandjaja1815 4 жыл бұрын
Because this is the REAL James, not AVGN or Board James.
@stormstrider1990
@stormstrider1990 4 жыл бұрын
@Mattress Store Dr Rolfe and Mr Nerd
@Cybopath
@Cybopath 4 жыл бұрын
Always felt DC and Marvel are both really influenced by their origin time. DC came into their own late 30s into the 40s. So it's Pulp, Raypunk, detective noir and Classic Monsters. With Marvel they came into their own 60s, 70s so it's Sci-fi B-movies, Spy films, urban grindhouse and Blaxploitation. And the best movies about either characters are the ones that realised that.
@K1ng1995
@K1ng1995 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you I've been trying to find the right way to Express this.
@YggdrasilAudio
@YggdrasilAudio 4 жыл бұрын
I hope this gets more likes.
@exhaustguy
@exhaustguy 4 жыл бұрын
Great observation.
@koufax3739
@koufax3739 4 жыл бұрын
Very true astute observation and well said
@jlev1028
@jlev1028 4 жыл бұрын
Well, technically Marvel emerged in the late '30s and early '40s, though their superheroes were either based on pulp action serials or wartime propaganda.
@TheWolvesCurse
@TheWolvesCurse 4 жыл бұрын
he's the friendly movie nerd, he's the friendliest nerd you've ever heard, he's the universal, clumbia, warner bros. nerd, he's the MGM, lionsgate, tri star, dreamworks, touchstone, miramax, paramount, DC, marvel, lucasfilm neeeerd! He's the friendly movie nerd!
@fredrikgranstrom6743
@fredrikgranstrom6743 4 жыл бұрын
Yeeees
@mert_kurucay
@mert_kurucay 4 жыл бұрын
Haha nice!
@comacho92
@comacho92 4 жыл бұрын
Friendly video store nerd
@alexsilva28
@alexsilva28 4 жыл бұрын
He's gonna take you back to the past To watch some awesome films that rock hard
@mikeRedMDK2032
@mikeRedMDK2032 4 жыл бұрын
Gonna take you back to the past, to watch the sensational films that kick ass
@AubreyTheKing
@AubreyTheKing 4 жыл бұрын
The Superhero genre may live forever, but the classic monsters will NEVER die! Thank you, James! :)
@callumsparrow4379
@callumsparrow4379 4 жыл бұрын
‘Batman vs. Dracula’ is a criminally overlooked animated movie. It’s based off of the 2004 series ‘The Batman’, and it and the series are both a really great watch.
@DarkwingSnark
@DarkwingSnark 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Kenny's Penguin was an absolute hoot as Dracula's familiar. But yes, agreed that even in the movie Dracula talks about how Batman must have been inspired by his legacy. So it fits into the discussion.
@michaelblaine6494
@michaelblaine6494 4 жыл бұрын
Based on the trilogy of books but mostly Red Reign. I only saw the movie once when it was new but you’re right it’s awesome
@wimvanderstraeten6521
@wimvanderstraeten6521 4 жыл бұрын
Another example: Ghostrider. Johnny Blaze sells his soul, just like Faust. The difference is that Faust is driven by egotism and wants to know everything there is to know whereas Johnny wants to save his sick father.
@themadplotter
@themadplotter 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Terry Practhett and Eric
@gorgin1017
@gorgin1017 4 жыл бұрын
Faust is not a Universal monster; but nontheless you made an interesting point there.
@R0-83-RT
@R0-83-RT 4 жыл бұрын
I see someone reference Dr. Faustus, I like
@mechazoic
@mechazoic 4 жыл бұрын
You could also equate him with The Mummy as he gained supernatural powers in order to help a loved one.
@Arkham8076
@Arkham8076 4 жыл бұрын
Universal should hire James to oversee the next reboot of the Dark Universe.
@symbiotegod2069
@symbiotegod2069 4 жыл бұрын
Except dont called it Dark Universe. Call it The Universe of Monsters.
@TheNeojanus1
@TheNeojanus1 4 жыл бұрын
That mummy movie though...
@RhythmGrizz
@RhythmGrizz 4 жыл бұрын
YES
@willeysingleton3057
@willeysingleton3057 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly they have dead talent James would be on another level. Universal should realy be scouting him there tesms have turned up turds for the last 3 decade's
@edgarbanuelos6472
@edgarbanuelos6472 4 жыл бұрын
He always did love to make horror movies. And I would be for it 100%.
@KoTM25681
@KoTM25681 4 жыл бұрын
DC's Solomon Grundy is also heavily inspired by the Frankenstein monster.
@danielgertler5976
@danielgertler5976 4 жыл бұрын
Considering Marvel was mostly doing horror stories before the Fantastic Four and both The Hulk and Ant Man had been written as such, it's not surprising they have some overlap.
@Dargonhuman
@Dargonhuman 4 жыл бұрын
That's an excellent point.
@Lime30373
@Lime30373 3 жыл бұрын
Groot was, too
@Rikhalify
@Rikhalify 4 жыл бұрын
Because something new is actually thing that was long forgotten
@mistergio3683
@mistergio3683 4 жыл бұрын
That should be a quote really.
@mikhalthatbadasslastnameif2524
@mikhalthatbadasslastnameif2524 4 жыл бұрын
That’s why people say superhero’s are just the gods of mythology today.
@FlameOfUdun96
@FlameOfUdun96 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikhalthatbadasslastnameif2524 pretty much
@HieronymousLex
@HieronymousLex 4 жыл бұрын
There’s nothing new under the sun
@Voicfulcornet5
@Voicfulcornet5 4 жыл бұрын
In entertainment nothing is truly original. Its previous ideas that are rejuvenated with a twist added to them.
@lorenschroeder9399
@lorenschroeder9399 4 жыл бұрын
The character and image of Two Face was inspired by Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. I mean just look at that NES game cover, how can you not think of Two Face!
@exhaustguy
@exhaustguy 4 жыл бұрын
Also I think Phantom of the Opera elements as well.
@aaronxgaming4042
@aaronxgaming4042 4 жыл бұрын
Very true
@misterdewott8766
@misterdewott8766 4 жыл бұрын
Did you ALSO know that puppy dogs in France-
@TheRealDirtMine
@TheRealDirtMine 3 жыл бұрын
You had to ruin it by mentioning the NES game. Lol.
@q.h.s5051
@q.h.s5051 4 жыл бұрын
I just finished binge watching Monster Madness 2008-2014. This was the perfect cherry on top on that. Thank you James
@the123joker
@the123joker 4 жыл бұрын
Now I'm curious if James heard of 'Immortal Hulk', because the series brought back the horror movie roots and threw in insane body horror into the mix
@gageansman295
@gageansman295 4 жыл бұрын
I hope so, I think that he'd enjoy that series
@the123joker
@the123joker 4 жыл бұрын
@@gageansman295 Alex Ross drawing alot of the cover art makes it perfect too
@gageansman295
@gageansman295 4 жыл бұрын
@@the123joker Oh definitely, those covers are amazing. Very reminiscent of old monster movies
@the123joker
@the123joker 4 жыл бұрын
@@gageansman295 he did one cover that was pretty Norman Rockwell-ish too
@Hulkzilla0
@Hulkzilla0 4 жыл бұрын
It also manages to cram in 60 years of Hulk history in it without it being problematic. It brings back old and almost forgotten concepts and does something new with it. The Immortal Hulk is perfect.
@PolikShadowbliss
@PolikShadowbliss 4 жыл бұрын
Originality has always been a myth, something I’ve come into realization a while ago. What matters in the end is the execution.
@iraford3702
@iraford3702 4 жыл бұрын
Yep that is 100% fact.
@recommendedforyou2936
@recommendedforyou2936 2 жыл бұрын
Edward scissorhands is original correct me if I'm wrong
@KRhetor
@KRhetor 2 жыл бұрын
@@recommendedforyou2936 Srsly? It's yet another variation on Frankenstein.
@recommendedforyou2936
@recommendedforyou2936 2 жыл бұрын
@@KRhetor wow your right
@NakedSnake85
@NakedSnake85 4 жыл бұрын
I could listen James talking about horror movies all day.
@smithwesson1896
@smithwesson1896 4 жыл бұрын
Danny Elfman also composed the music for the remake of The Wolfman
@alexsilva28
@alexsilva28 4 жыл бұрын
Dude that's awesome. He brought it full circle
@smithwesson1896
@smithwesson1896 4 жыл бұрын
@@deezy81 No there wasn't
@Thespeedrap
@Thespeedrap 4 жыл бұрын
He also scored Batman so it is similar😁😎
@joshjames582
@joshjames582 4 жыл бұрын
Which begs the question - does Danny Elfman become an Elf under the light of the full moon?
@Xenc5
@Xenc5 4 жыл бұрын
Danny Elfman composed The Simpsons theme too
@swimmyswim417
@swimmyswim417 4 жыл бұрын
6:10 this part gave me chills. I love that Batman theme, it’s so iconic. Fantastic video, you managed to combine everything I love about superheroes with great commentary about classic horror movies. I love classic horror even though I’m more familiar with the literary side than the cinematic, but this definitely gives me more motivation to dive deeper into the movies.
@thedoublecupexperience9165
@thedoublecupexperience9165 4 жыл бұрын
I have the upmost respect for the classic monster movies. They couldn’t just rely on computers and graphics. They had to actually be creative and find ingenious ways to bring these monsters to life. It’s amazing what they created
@soursugar4867
@soursugar4867 4 жыл бұрын
Granted, creating graphics, animating them, and doing all things of that sort take incredible amounts of work, but they tend to be somewhat specialized to help design them. Monster movie creators had to work lots of it out on their own
@thedoublecupexperience9165
@thedoublecupexperience9165 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree. Creating CGI is hard as well. But creators now a days have DECADES to pull info and tips from. In the 1950’s they didn’t have anything except imagination. They were creating the unimaginable every day. I agree the CGI artist are amazing, but they already get plenty of love. I wanted to shine a light on these brilliant creators in the 1950’s that the newer generation doesn’t know about.
@cha5
@cha5 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, Jack Pierce and his unforgettable monster makeup jobs. 😁
@FlameOfUdun96
@FlameOfUdun96 4 жыл бұрын
When you remember that Frankenstein Punisher was an ACTUAL thing... His name is Franken-Castle, I’m not making this up
@smithwesson1896
@smithwesson1896 4 жыл бұрын
That's true. Also hello again
@bigblueboyscout4795
@bigblueboyscout4795 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget Wolf-Cap
@WSendam
@WSendam 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the dc version of Frankenstein and bat-Tiger yes Batman became a tiger
@nathansossai
@nathansossai 4 жыл бұрын
And Blade constantly fights Dracula himself
@fredrikgranstrom6743
@fredrikgranstrom6743 4 жыл бұрын
😅😅
@2lazy4username34
@2lazy4username34 4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen the idea that superheroes are similar to classic monsters communicated so well so thanks James Rolfe for explaining it in the best way possible!
@thelivingjed9676
@thelivingjed9676 4 жыл бұрын
I wish you'd talked more about Swamp Thing. He's a wonderful example. Scientist tries to make a bio-restorative formula, dies in a labratory explosion caused by a jealous colleague, comes back as a swamp monster, takes his revenge on the man who killed him and stole his girl, and returns to the swamp when his love doesn't recognise him. Later on, Alec Holland (Swamp Thing) finds out that he's body was in fact destroyed in the lab explosion, and his consciousness was transferred into the body of the Swamp Thing (which is living vegetable matter). Disclaimer: I wrote this in a rush.
@exhaustguy
@exhaustguy 4 жыл бұрын
Both Man-Thing and Swamp Thing are derivatives of a 1940s monster called The Heap (which also had an incarnation in the Skywald B/W Horror magazines before appearing at almost the same time in 1971 at DC/Marvel).
@BeerdyBruceLeeCentral
@BeerdyBruceLeeCentral 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing all this amazing research!
@tomfitzpatrick7335
@tomfitzpatrick7335 4 жыл бұрын
I knew this before this video was made
@fathimaafiya5519
@fathimaafiya5519 4 жыл бұрын
Adcb
@TheTELproductions
@TheTELproductions 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most well thought out videos I've seen in a while, really never considered the connection between the two genres but I'm convinced now
@emothegunslinger
@emothegunslinger 4 жыл бұрын
I love it when he merges the past with the present and shows all the connections.
@rainehappy7097
@rainehappy7097 4 жыл бұрын
For instance, Dragon Ball was inspired by Journey to The West.
@HavasiP
@HavasiP 4 жыл бұрын
I love when James put in some over time in the after hours. Been watching James for so many years and I'm so glad he's still going strong.
@Mechaghostman2
@Mechaghostman2 4 жыл бұрын
In the early 2000's Hulk DVD, the behind the scenes with Stan Lee interview said that the Hulk was influenced by Frankenstein's monster as the angry mob was out to get him, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hide's transformation, and the Thing because he's big, bulky, and strong.
@noahthomson5884
@noahthomson5884 3 жыл бұрын
that's called Evolution of the Hulk in the second disc
@spicylemon7475
@spicylemon7475 4 жыл бұрын
"Imagine a world of explosions, metal, and madness." I don't need to imagine it, we're living in one.
@edgarbanuelos6472
@edgarbanuelos6472 4 жыл бұрын
Let's not kid ourselves. Count Orlok is still scary 100 years later.
@whitewolf3051
@whitewolf3051 4 жыл бұрын
Those who don't think classic horror movies are scary only think of modern horror films as scary. But they don't know the classics has atmosphere, dread and tension. Sure, some modern horror films has those too, but modern horror tend to rely more on shock, and jump scares. People don't appreciate what classic horror does as opposed to modern ones.
@donkrusovica9049
@donkrusovica9049 4 жыл бұрын
@@whitewolf3051 the lighthouse and the babadook are my favourite 2000+ horors
@whitewolf3051
@whitewolf3051 4 жыл бұрын
@@donkrusovica9049 Are they like the classic horror, or most of the modern ones that rely on shock and jump scares?
@misterdewott8766
@misterdewott8766 4 жыл бұрын
So HE was the one flickering the lights
@cosmiceyness
@cosmiceyness 4 жыл бұрын
@@whitewolf3051 they are more like the classics, the lighthouse especially
@GeneralTantzu
@GeneralTantzu 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad we have people like James digging this obscure old stuff up and present it to us.
@RetroPillowcase
@RetroPillowcase 4 жыл бұрын
Bro these movies are not obscure
@dlgcp
@dlgcp 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the classic Universal films for many reasons: the actors, the stories, the iconic makeup and the amazing, atmospheric production design.
@manaqeesh1235
@manaqeesh1235 4 жыл бұрын
We need this show in cinnemassacre The angry V.H.S Nerd
@oddball9982
@oddball9982 4 жыл бұрын
well it would be more of the Informative V.H.S nerd
@mj4782
@mj4782 4 жыл бұрын
This is James at his finest. Well done sir. This was a masterpiece.
@JReeces
@JReeces 4 жыл бұрын
James talking about films has become my favourite content on Cinemassacre
@אילןדרל
@אילןדרל 4 жыл бұрын
More than rewatching classic avgn? Thats impressive.
@iraford3702
@iraford3702 4 жыл бұрын
@@אילןדרל james talking about films is way more impressive than classic avgn reviews.
@Bretking1
@Bretking1 4 жыл бұрын
James connecting one of my favourite things to one of his favourite things. This is so cool and makes me think that James and I would have some fun conversations. (Not that me and James would meet anytime soon, but still fun to think about)
@SchutzBoysband
@SchutzBoysband 4 жыл бұрын
Love AVGN but these kinds of videos are my favorite Cinemassacre content. It really is one of the best movie channels on youtube while also one of the best video game ones.
@guiprazeres7
@guiprazeres7 4 жыл бұрын
It's like how a joker goon would say: "Bunch of freaks".
@adamjenks9613
@adamjenks9613 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the great comparison videos I’ve seen in a long time. Thanks, James/Cinemassacre!!
@christiangarrity6889
@christiangarrity6889 4 жыл бұрын
So true, this blueprint was invented so long ago! Crazy to think how relevant it still is.
@pentelegomenon1175
@pentelegomenon1175 4 жыл бұрын
I would argue that the blueprint was Godzilla.
@antdude
@antdude 4 жыл бұрын
That was fantastic. I'm not into monsters like superheroes, but wow the comparisons.
@pasi8800
@pasi8800 4 жыл бұрын
Only James can come up with Videos like this and that's why I got so much respect for him!
@gaminganimators7000
@gaminganimators7000 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of body horror stories also could become superhero stories. Like Teeth is a superhero story, The Fly could also become a superhero story easily. Dr. Brundle makes a machine but it goes wrong and he becomes part fly and starts gaining abilities.
@GhostPirateEntertainment
@GhostPirateEntertainment 4 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite thing you’ve ever done. This is so much how I’ve always felt about the classic monsters
@kotzpenner
@kotzpenner 4 жыл бұрын
Apart from AVGN and Board James, this series is my favourite, James on his own showing his expertise about old school horror movies
@mrm6607
@mrm6607 4 жыл бұрын
Great video James! When I was little and would visit my dad, he used to put on the classic monster movies for me all the time. I loved them and really enjoyed discovering all the offshoots where the different monsters come together and cross each other's paths. I never realized all the intricacies to them you point out here--super interesting! Thank you for such a great nostalgic dive back into my favorite childhood monsters, sir. Keep being awesome.
@KaineHero
@KaineHero 4 жыл бұрын
I've always thought this, but was never able to articulate it as well as James. I guess I need to watch more movies to get even a fraction of the knowledge he has.
@mrgreatbigmoose
@mrgreatbigmoose 4 жыл бұрын
If I take nothing away from this, it's that musical leitmotif in Wolfman/Batman! That's pure gold!
@vincentestrade1283
@vincentestrade1283 4 жыл бұрын
That was really an interesting video! Puts a new perspective to the classic horror characters! Would be great if platforms like Netflix or others could present these to today's audience !
@Dusty_B
@Dusty_B 4 жыл бұрын
Time just flies by listening to James talk about movies I swear. Love his takes on stuff like this.
@ObsessedCollector
@ObsessedCollector 4 жыл бұрын
"Nothing new under the sun" Meaning if it's now, it's been done ages ago. Every great idea was inspired by an older idea.
@JustinPiechota
@JustinPiechota 7 ай бұрын
Mr Freeze from Batman and Robin is an example - Scientist with a wife with a horrible disease falls into a liquid that freezes him forcing him to survive in a cryosuit that keeps him alive
@dexterwillmon
@dexterwillmon 4 жыл бұрын
Great video James! You've really done your research, and I love it!
@Frisket
@Frisket 4 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite kind of Cinemassacre content
@johnathanmartin1504
@johnathanmartin1504 4 жыл бұрын
"Hero...monster....it doesn't matter what they call you. What matters is what you choose." -The Incredible Hulk
@rizkaarifiandi5670
@rizkaarifiandi5670 4 жыл бұрын
I like when James talk about his views Keep em coming, James
@ymereJ8104
@ymereJ8104 4 жыл бұрын
The title actually really caught my attention and made me very intrigued
@mitchellhedden1978
@mitchellhedden1978 4 жыл бұрын
I like how he talks about lesser known monsters like The Woofman
@muhanc.a.9299
@muhanc.a.9299 4 жыл бұрын
Once James reaches the 90s movies, he will become the angry video nerd.
@fredrikgranstrom6743
@fredrikgranstrom6743 4 жыл бұрын
Happy
@palaceofwisdom9448
@palaceofwisdom9448 4 жыл бұрын
I want him to review Frankenhooker, one of the funniest bad movies out there.
@fredrikgranstrom6743
@fredrikgranstrom6743 4 жыл бұрын
@@palaceofwisdom9448 never even heard of
@benson7498
@benson7498 4 жыл бұрын
@@palaceofwisdom9448 he already has :)
@zigzag1630
@zigzag1630 4 жыл бұрын
"Superhero movie seriea are just like classic monster movies!" >Universal studios cries for the failure of their attempt to make a classic movie monster series which they once called the "Dark Universe."
@vikingman4614
@vikingman4614 4 жыл бұрын
They should just let James reboot their old Ip's on a budget.
@Iliketoeatallday
@Iliketoeatallday 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still so mad about that, I was so excited. Personally I think the problem was they let Tom Cruise be Tom Cruise.
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 4 жыл бұрын
That was the plan, but the started it with the Mummy, and that was a box office bomb that pretty much sank the concept.
@redtutel
@redtutel 4 жыл бұрын
I still say it wasn’t a bad idea in theory. In practice however...
@pentelegomenon1175
@pentelegomenon1175 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTurnipKing Or they started with Dracula Untold, depending on how you see it.
@piehead678
@piehead678 4 жыл бұрын
"The Man Who Laughs" is an obvious inspiration for The Joker.
@shadowleon659
@shadowleon659 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for educating me on superheroes getting inspiration from the Universal Monsters.
@micshork
@micshork 4 жыл бұрын
You should review the Direct-to-Video film “Batman vs. Dracula”. It’s awesome.
@GameGod77
@GameGod77 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most informative videos on pop culture I've ever seen!
@ziljin
@ziljin 4 жыл бұрын
Marvel actually has most of the supernatural monsters in their universe Frankenstein, The Mummy, Werewolf, Dracula, Swampthing, etc some of them even teamup.
@doodleboy565
@doodleboy565 4 жыл бұрын
Swamp Thing is from DC. You might be confusing him with Man-Thing.
@exhaustguy
@exhaustguy 4 жыл бұрын
@@doodleboy565 Marvel never did much with Man-Thing. Swamp Thing on the other hand has had some great character arcs.
@doodleboy565
@doodleboy565 4 жыл бұрын
@@exhaustguy I know. I was just correcting his mistake.
@mrsinister8978
@mrsinister8978 4 жыл бұрын
@@exhaustguy but they did a lot with Morbius. He had some pretty great arcs too.a
@exhaustguy
@exhaustguy 4 жыл бұрын
I did discover Warren, Skywald, and Eerie Publications as kid - still love them.
@Doomguy617
@Doomguy617 4 жыл бұрын
Im not a movie guy, but holy cow this video engrossed me all the way to the end.
@dalm312
@dalm312 4 жыл бұрын
You could go even further and those characters from early monster movies could also be inspired from earlier stories and epics from different religions and cultures. Nothing is original but it is very cool to see modern retelling of different stories. Thanks for this video it was interesting
@yomammasofat1000
@yomammasofat1000 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so grateful your glory was blessed enough to shine on us mere mortal, James
@Nintendofan781
@Nintendofan781 4 жыл бұрын
I can see similarties with superheroes with the monster characters. I even say they also share traits with anime characters as well. They're more mature and deal with real life issues
@ironichoneybadger5066
@ironichoneybadger5066 4 жыл бұрын
I knew that a lot of super heroes that were based on old monsters, I didn't know it ran so deep. This is a great video!
@TactileTherapy
@TactileTherapy 4 жыл бұрын
Fun trvia: Talbout is a character in the Hulk series who tried to keep him locked up and imprisoned
@RetroPillowcase
@RetroPillowcase 4 жыл бұрын
He said that
@ryanangelastro504
@ryanangelastro504 9 ай бұрын
But Ross is his superior, meaning he’s the one leading the chase.
@alexsilva28
@alexsilva28 4 жыл бұрын
You blew my mind with the Batman connections to silent films and the Wolf man
@ErebusHellhound
@ErebusHellhound 4 жыл бұрын
I actually saw a documentary on the Hulk movie from 2003! Stan Lee have said that Frankenstein's Monster and Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde were his inspiration for the Hulk! That fact got stuck to my head as a child since then!
@leecroft1983
@leecroft1983 4 жыл бұрын
These are the best videos of Cinemassacre. Not that really into video game stuff but his movie videos are so interesting. I feel James is more passionate for movies then games.
@kirbymarchbarcena
@kirbymarchbarcena 4 жыл бұрын
The recent mistake of Universal to do their cinematic universe was the bad plot of their "The Mummy" reboot with Tom Cruise.
@d.t.sdimensionstheaterstud4410
@d.t.sdimensionstheaterstud4410 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video I love Superheroes and I can appreciate classic monsters even more
@rimfire8217
@rimfire8217 3 жыл бұрын
Classic myths became classic folktale. Classic folktales became classic novels. Classic novels became classic movies. Classic movies became an inspiration. Inspiration becomes new stories. It’s beautiful in a lot of ways.
@ryanangelastro504
@ryanangelastro504 11 ай бұрын
It’s like poetry, it rhymes.
@ZUUL117
@ZUUL117 4 жыл бұрын
Monster Madness has changed a lot for me, but seeing these video essays from James just makes it so much better
@rayelgatubelo
@rayelgatubelo 4 жыл бұрын
And like superheroes, you can't just expect their movies to fly just because they're in a cinematic universe. The Dark Universe is infamous for stopping the story for exposition that we're not invested enough to care about. Marvel gets a bad rap for info dumps but they space it out and often leave it in the credits. You don't have to explain why HYDRA has Viking tech - they already explained it in THOR! This is also the main why Doctor Doom has still never been done right. In a Fantastic Four movie where they're the only superheroes, you have to explain how science and magic work in the same universe. Now that he can be in the MCU, they don't have to; we know the science because of Iron Man and Ant-Man, we know the magic because of Thor and Doctor Strange. All you need to explain how Dr. Doom knows science and magic is a cameo scene with Tilda Swinton and flashbacks of him studying with hopefully-John Krasinski-but-if-not-I-trust-the-casters.
@exhaustguy
@exhaustguy 4 жыл бұрын
Instead we have to sit through the less than inspiring Phase IV. Sorry after Endgame I lost my enthusiasm. I am not a big Doctor Strange fan, but that movie seems to be the only one of interest to me.
@LEON2808
@LEON2808 4 жыл бұрын
The original Kamen Rider series from 1972 also fit very well into your analysis too - with the protagonist being kidnapped by a evil organization and turned into a "cyborg" to work for them - but eventually failing to be brainwashed and becoming a hero, and this trope was repeated in various ways in other series. Also, the series from 1972-1989 (and to a lesser extent, the modern series too) also worked like a cinematic universe of sorts, with characters from the other series appearing in other series and movies, which it was awesome too :D This also happened in other tokusatsu series like Godzilla and Ultraman as well.
@daboi8734
@daboi8734 4 жыл бұрын
13:23 well there is a 2005 animated movie called "The Batman vs Dracula"
@pepito2847
@pepito2847 4 жыл бұрын
I actually look up to Godzilla since Godzilla in most incarnations isn’t necessarily pure evil but rather an angry force of destruction who has occasionally shown kindness such as raising a monster son or defending humanity against bigger threats.
@SharksandDinos
@SharksandDinos 4 жыл бұрын
3:18 Don't forget that he was also based off of Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Edit: Nevermind, you mentioned him at 4:01, but to confirm your suspicion, Stan Lee did indeed said that Hulk was also based off of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
@spikes_johnson
@spikes_johnson 4 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of my more favorite videos of late. Very well researched and James' passion for these movies shows
@heysay9051
@heysay9051 4 жыл бұрын
This is such an interesting video, it's something I have actually never thought. I wonder, how much did James researched for this video? Because it does looks like did took a lot of time to compare all the similarities
@fredrikgranstrom6743
@fredrikgranstrom6743 4 жыл бұрын
All of his life.
@carlesmr1835
@carlesmr1835 4 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to see you on KZbin, James. 🍻
@tecpaocelotl
@tecpaocelotl 4 жыл бұрын
Skip to 1:30
@MrBrockarock
@MrBrockarock 4 жыл бұрын
Stellar commentary, a true delight to watch and learn a little something.
@TellYouHwaet
@TellYouHwaet 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear James talk about Batman vs The Mad Monk or Batman/Dracula: Red Rain.
@koufax3739
@koufax3739 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@evilmasterstudios
@evilmasterstudios 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Hulk/Jekyll & Hyde comparison. Everyone look at me like I’m crazy when I point that out!
@thomashernandez6536
@thomashernandez6536 4 жыл бұрын
Well, hello all! Hope everybody is doing their best!
@oliversmith1760
@oliversmith1760 4 жыл бұрын
thank you
@thomashernandez6536
@thomashernandez6536 4 жыл бұрын
You're both welcome! Gotta spread the love when and where I can!
@michaelblaine6494
@michaelblaine6494 4 жыл бұрын
✌️
@respawngranted
@respawngranted 4 жыл бұрын
A really cool way to look at this topic. I've never seen those old monster movies but want to especially now after this video
@savagegamer81013
@savagegamer81013 4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde was not about horror. It’s about man’s animal nature. His struggle to control it to conform. And it’s about man living with the fear of what he could be capable of.
@exhaustguy
@exhaustguy 4 жыл бұрын
So is The Fly horror (either version)? Same conflict and Stevenson had very horrific elements in his original novella (trampling a young child).
@savagegamer81013
@savagegamer81013 4 жыл бұрын
Right basically any monster movie about science experiments gone wrong can be based on that idea (expect for Frankenstein)
@tenhirankei
@tenhirankei 4 жыл бұрын
Tell that to the people Hyde killed. Oh, wait. They won't hear you, SINCE THEY'RE DEAD!
@savagegamer81013
@savagegamer81013 4 жыл бұрын
@@tenhirankei it’s symbolism of a quote from Robert Louis Stevenson “in each of us, two natures are at war.”
@ryans.1900
@ryans.1900 4 жыл бұрын
I love that you mention Bill Finger
@johngurnhill8743
@johngurnhill8743 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing will beat the universal monsters there are the best films
@migovas1483
@migovas1483 4 жыл бұрын
Still one of the best KZbin Channels out there, stay strong!
@CaptDestro
@CaptDestro 4 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on the Darkman series of movies? It's a Universal movie, kind of a mix between monster and hero. Also directed by Sam Raimi.
@tenhirankei
@tenhirankei 4 жыл бұрын
Jekyll/Hyde theme
@sodokami6347
@sodokami6347 3 жыл бұрын
Well look at that...
@Dimensioneer88
@Dimensioneer88 2 жыл бұрын
Marvel just released a trailer for their Halloween special Werewolf By Night. The trailer had a very 1930s Wolf Man vibe going for it. They also had a trailer for Secret Invasion which, much like The Thing, is about shapeshifting aliens.
@nathanielmorgan9108
@nathanielmorgan9108 4 жыл бұрын
swamp thing and man thing are straight out of universal monster movies
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