Why The Incredibles is the DARKEST Pixar Movie EVER

The Incredibles is the Darkest and maybe even BEST film has ever put out. Let me know what you think!
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[@DannyMotta]

If you like this video make sure you check out my second channel, Honestly Brutal for more like it

[@elijahwilson5530]

Danny, please react to Ronja the Robber’s Daughter. It’s an amazing “anime” that a criminally small amount know about. The main character is a Irish/Scottish girl who goes through some shit. I think you would LOVE the show and it really deserves more attention.

[@caitlyncarvalho7637]

Do you think the Incredibles is a conservative/libertarian film? there are people who believe this with these details A. the Parrs reject new ways of schooling B. Guns/superheroes were removed for "safety" reasons only to raise crime statistics and C. Elastigirl is characterized as a feminist who ends up getting wed off to a straight man as a traditional housewife/mother and is shown to be better off that way.

[@Lou-yf1jo]

you really are sensitive.

[@sleepyghost4994]

The scene where Helen was telling her children that those soldiers wouldn't hesitate to kill them hits really hard for me. Most parents try to hide those facts from their children. Helen was brutally honest with her children because she knew that they needed to understand the gravity of the situation and survive.

[@nox9749]

I remember not knowing how to feel watching that moment as a kid because I felt like she was being a bit "much", but now that I'm older I see that her telling her kids right then and there the cold hard facts of the situation so they'd take that seriously was only for their own good and she was doing that shit to protect her kids. Being honest was the only real way to protect her kids in that situation, and it's great they made Helen express that.

[@atiredweeb8551]

I remember my mom saying that almost exact line to me when I was younger. She and my dad never tried to sugar coat most things in life so I wouldn't be hit too hard as I grew up. This doesn't mean I didn't have a childhood, (tho I kinda didn't for other reasons) I just wasn't so into the childhood illusion of rainbows and sunshine to ignore the real world. Tho this did cause some problems I'm grateful for what they did.

[@thepaladin4335]

Rewatching the first incredibles around the time the 2nd one came out…. I actually loved that. I was shocked at that when she dropped reality on them when they were stranded. I knew as a kid I kinda wanted Dash and violet to do more since they had powers but watching now… I see it’s in character cuz survival was their priority so I didn’t mind the running away. And when they do use their powers confidently it was around their parents. But I do like the fact that… in the incredibles they kinda showed u could die from doing the superhero job. N they need to get serious…

[@premiumheadpats4150]

It's a good scene.

[@noabinnendijk361]

Danny showed that clip and I went "okay that is not the coldest talk, thank god, I was expecting her to yell at Violet or something for not protecting them, that would be way colder. This is not the coldest talk" and then a minute later Danny talked about exactly that happening anyway

[@Dinomatrix21]

I really didn't feel like Helen was telling Violet she was disappointed in her. She says it's not her fault and it wasnt fair of her to ask so much of her, which, yeah, the kids were actively discouraged from using their powers. It seemed like more of an "I'm sorry, it's okay. But it can't happen again."

[@sethsmithLOUDNOISES]

who has this on vhs i want it

[@ItalianArsonist]

I need glasses because i looked at your pfp and thought it was the album cover of sabatons “defense of Moscow” single 💀💀💀 i dont even listen to sabaton

[@robertpaulsr7312]

Yeah he got that scene completely wrong.

[@dotterfred2259]

"I'm sorry, it's okay. But it can't happen again" felt like "I'm sorry, I'll guide you better so it won't happen again."

[@captainmarvelwilson508]

She was telling her that she as a mother put too much on her to use her powers, but subtly reminds her that the need to use them may arise at some point, and says it in an encouraging way.

[@eccentricdez42]

A lot of people say that the internet is ruining their childhood, but exposing some of the darker themes of our favorite shows and movies needs to become the norm.

[@riffraff7942]

It’s not so much ruining them, as is your leaning more about it

[@maxaroniandcheese3887]

*cough cough* matpat

[@premiumheadpats4150]

@@maxaroniandcheese3887 That's way more complicated, and intentionally so.

[@premiumheadpats4150]

This doesn't really feel like "exposure" to me though as, up to halfway through the video, it's not really anything I've never paid attention to on my own.

[@EkardRimidalv]

It's not ruining it, it's just revealing what's behind the curtains

[@crem-crem4070]

Did you know that in the original version of the plane crash scene Helen was supposed to be flying with an old pilot friend of hers. When Violet failed to put a force field around the plane Helen wrapped herself around them and left. Her friend. Behind. He died. It’s actually why she was animated looking down at the plane sinking as she realizes that there is no way he could of survived that.

[@tilltronje1623]

The guy she was on the phone with and who she got the plane from right?

[@hanakoskokeshidoll]

@@tilltronje1623 yes

[@dejiadeleye5697]

It was Snug, the guy she was on the phone with before she got on the plane

[@thgritic102]

Now that would be horrifying to watch even as a kid. Glad they changed it and her lookin at th plane could be translated to "That would've been us if we stayed."

[@crem-crem4070]

@@thgritic102 they made an animatic of it kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5-yXoSYgsyKZrM

[@bookwormlovesanime]

watching this as an adult I was SO invested in the like family drama and everything that I had zero regard for as a kid, that's what makes it a great movie, you can grow up with it!

[@jirkakarpisek5535]

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[@kyoswkyosw1216]

“Ok, I’m intervening, I’M INTERVENING!”

[@mateo10734]

Seriously dude I rewatched it and I felt no qualms about it being a kids movie. Very cool and many adult level scenes, all we needed was one “Im frozone muthafucka”

[@themack5131]

The movie legit got better as we grew up and i love that so much

[@mr.j3rs3y]

Real talk though, I had NO idea for the longest time that Helen was worried that Bob was having an affair. I just saw her as being suspicious of what he’s been doing in general.

[@ichigokage]

I just wanna say that if Bob had a job where he actually helped people, he would have been waaaayyyy happier. That was why he was a hero. We only really saw him with the old woman but you could tell that turning her down really hurt him. Even then he tried helping where he could. He was just drained and sadly beat down from a job that made him miserable. Which is something too many people can relate to.

[@emilyleong6442]

Yea, but having a career that helps people that requires manual labour(like a firefighter or a policeman) will surely write him off as a formal super since he cant manually turn his powers on and off like frozone

[@Craig5647]

Should have made him a firefighter

[@bunsenn5064]

@@emilyleong6442 He could do some other kind of active work that helps people. Fighting fire and getting into gun fights isn’t the only to help.

[@catarena8031]

Yeah but see, he has a family to support too. The pay might've been good and maybe Helen may have pushed him to go for it, or the government set the job up for him. There's also the fact that due to Bob always having relied on being physically gifted, he probably wouldn't have the education or capacity to learn other skills, like how to be a doctor- a job that would pay well and allow him to really help people.

[@travissmith2848]

And with his sit-down with the boss his expressed issue was that they were supposed to be helping people. Were he at the escalation desk where the persistent get sent to make them go away he'd have far more interactions where he can approve claims (even if at a reduced rate) and have been more satisfied. In fact so much of the setup for his life now shows how he feels contained and even trapped. Biggest man in the company in the smallest cubical, a care he barely fits in, drab colors everywhere.

[@magicsasafras3414]

"Its psychotic they keep creating new ways to celebrate mediocrity"... this movie just said what I have been trying to say FOR YEARS. This movie put one of my most hated things into words and I never realized it. I should have listened more as a child.

[@quickman2663]

Considering how Disney (and Hollywood in general) is doing nowadays, i feel like this quote was like Brad Bird foreshadowing Disney's folly.

[@magicsasafras3414]

@@quickman2663 More like society's.

[@manwhoismissingtwotoenails4777]

@@magicsasafras3414 Disney has also shot itself in it's foot. It was kinda sad when they decided to stop what they did with the incredibles.

[@JetWarrior]

@@manwhoismissingtwotoenails4777 To be fair, Disney wasn't in control of Pixar when the Incredibles came out. This was pure Pixar pushing the boundary.

[@bgdlc9591]

(I agree with you) But within the context of the movie isn't pixar trying to portray Bob as in the wrong for saying that? His whole character arc is based on him changing from someone who thinks normal and mediocre life is beneath them and not worth the time. He created the villain of the story for gatekeeping being a hero and being special to supers, and the "big happy ending" is when he learns to embrace mediocrity (aka family life) as something worthwhile and meaningful. For me what sets this movie (and pixar at that era) apart from disney now is that they're saying "being mediocre is fine, you don't need to always be the special main character", and Syndrome's whole character embodies the lesson that "If there are people that are just born more special or "better"than you, you don't need to bring them down just to make yourself feel better." which is literally what mainstream media is doing now. It was pretty evident that Syndrome- while not being a super, still possessed the ability to rival those who were born with powers because he worked hard, his heart was just in the wrong place so he became the villain.

[@sneakysnek572]

The “abort” scene, and mr incredible discovering what happened to the other heroes, remain moments of my childhood that I look back on with wide eyes. Every time I see the “abort” scene, my stomach drops. Every single hero dying in combat gave me chills. Helen’s voice actress truly captures the horror. She slowly transitions from Elastigirl, the collected superhero, to an absolutely terrified mother, knowing she and her children are likely about to die. The scene before Bob is captured gives such a sense of dread and horror, realizing that Bob is the only one who survived, and that Syndrome both can and will kill people without hesitation. Truly terrifying, and deeply chilling, both as a child, and as a near adult.

[@personalglow]

In regards to Bob, it's not only that he's the only one who survived - he knew a lot of these people rather personally. A good chunk of them were at his wedding. Maybe Bob just knew these people through just their superhero aliases, maybe their secret identities (as shown when he was reading the paper earlier and immediately knew that the man who was missing used to be the hero Gaserbeam). It's him realizing that he's that basically, all of his friends/close colleagues are dead.

[@chainsawboy2388]

@@personalglow it’s not even just that I’d say, with all those friends dead it pretty much means the good old days that Bob idolized are just gone. There’s no way for those days to come back and the dread he shows on his face Carries a lot of meaning in multiple ways.

[@John-Doe-Yo]

Back when the studios making “kids” shows/movies respected the audience and didn’t shelter them from everything

[@logan_swe]

i was young when i first watched this movie, and so the computer scene is what made me realize the intensity of the situation. i had a mini existential crisis as i realized what would happen

[@kingrico6076]

Why y’all acting like pussies over a Disney movie? It wasn’t that serious😭😭😭all these unnecessary emotions

[@dormishaeli]

“A children's story that can only be enjoyed by children is not a good children's story in the slightest.” -C.S. Lewis

[@forkwithasuit]

I'm surprised he didn't mention the computer scene. Bob is goibg to find Syndrome's plans. But then, there's a tab labeled 'supers' which he clicks on. And he slowly realizes that all of his friends are now dead. Of course, he checks if Frozone and Elastigirl are okay, which shows how much he cares about them.

[@wikiuser92]

And the fact that Frozone's location is known, combined with Mirage's dialogue from earlier on in the film, confirms the scary fact that he was going to be the next one sent to be killed by the Omnidroid before she discovered Bob was Mr. Incredible.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Not to sound awful, but I bet Bob wishes that he just let that grenade that Bomb Voyage planted on Buddy just kill him.

[@KrillintheVillain]

@@wikiuser92 yup and how long she probably knew about him too.

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

Some of the dead superheroes Bob sees on the computer can actually be seen at the wedding in the beginning of the movie

[@meridaskywalker7816]

And also the fact that he has to hide behind the corpse of a dead hero

[@thebeaniebean]

also, keep in mind that the kids were never supposed to be on the plane, the fact that they snuck and accidentally put themselves in danger just adds to the horror of the plane scene oh my-

[@elizabethherrera9618]

Imagine if they successfully snuck in and Helen never found them

[@thebeaniebean]

@@elizabethherrera9618 exactly, even if they are just "what ifs" it's still haunting to think about

[@rivalsoul9853]

@woof holy shit

[@DragoShadowking]

Be thankful that Helen's friend who loaned her the plain didn't die because originally he was supposed to be her copilot and die in the explosion. They removed that scene.

[@iaxacs3801]

I think they only didn't keep it because of how that was going to affect Violet's character arc. Having someone die on screen is horrifying, having it so that a child now has to live with the trauma of not saving someone because they couldn't handle the pressure of the situation is one of the most traumatizing thing to watch for anyone young or old. Like there's thrillers and horror movies that wouldn't touch that level of dark. Edit: Adding that if it went through it would absolutely have triggered people's PTSD

[@alijd6287]

they also took it out because they would need more screen time to make Snug even more lovable for his death. to impact us harder. heres the deleted scene/commentary kzbin.info/www/bejne/e33NZaiKiKaUkJI

[@jollama]

*plane

[@fenrirtheicewolf2019]

It's even more dark if you look at the beginning in the wedding and later look at that scene with the dead superheroe list... the majority of the killed heroes were people Bob and Hellen knew... people they trusted with their secret identities, and they were all dead, and he was slowly figuring it out and why he hasn't heard from them finally hits. It's dark and at the same time insanely sad.

[@Alakaizer]

And that all of Bob's friends were aching for the good old days, just like him.

[@LunarAnimeAngel]

It is even more dark when Hellen calls out there are children on board the plane but Syndrome didn’t care. You see the horror on Bobs face when he hears that line. You feel the anger and pain from Bob when he decides to exact revenge, but he realizes that won’t bring his family back and release Syndrome

[@turtletimeinc]

In the first few minutes of the incredibles a man tries to commit Suicide and is angry when he is saved. This is one of the darkest Pixar movies probably ever. And that’s why I love it

[@eva1585]

@@SkullkeeperVSK That's what he said?? I always heard "You ruined my back!"

[@jollama]

@@eva1585 Now we know you didn’t use subtitles

[@eva1585]

@@jollama I did not

[@geeandnahum1757]

Sorry mate, that wasnt what he said. He said, "I think you broke something." Link to scene is here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6Paf3uQfqiCm6c

[@geeandnahum1757]

Oh wait isn't there a scene of it happening with one of the guards?

[@whocares9838]

I think Syndrome saying, “I’ve outgrown you,” perfectly encapsulates this entire scene. These poor kids are forced to deal with the realization that their parents aren’t invincible in the most brutal way possible. It’s that feeling when you acknowledge that your parents aren’t perfect turned up to eleven. This may be a very fantastical scene, but it’s grounded by a fear that’s pretty universal. That’s what makes this scene so fucking awesome.

[@Monkeyhat549]

It perfectly encapsulates his character.

[@mythic_robyn3859]

Helen absolutely wasn't disappointed in Violet, she was expressing that She (Helen herself) was in the wrong for even asking Violet to do that. She was saying that it was beyond what Violet could do at the moment and it wasn't right of Helen to put that weight on her. If anything, Helen was proud Violet tried and disappointed in herself, most likely at least.

[@MissCaraMint]

Yes exactly. She is not just disappointed in herself for pressuring her daughter, but feels like she failed to prepare her for the situation. Which is still fucked up since the kids snuck on to that plane in the first place. That’s what the talk in the cave is about. Making sure they realize the severity of what they have done by purposely sneeking on to a dangerous mission, and also preparing them for the reality of it so they’ll be able to survive it.

[@subject0583]

I feel like one of the darkest moments would have to be when Bob learns about the fate of the other heroes. Because you think at first because he has superpower that there is a large gap between him and the villain, that he is the one in control, however as you learn about how many heroes that were defeated by the villain, that power gap slowly but surely becomes smaller and soon enough you soon realize that Bob was never in control and that he ,and by extension his family, are well and are well and truly in danger. God I forget how great this film is.

[@kira17801]

Agreed

[@neveragain1159]

this comment really puts the movie in perspective holy shit imagine if this was a rated R movie?!

[@GregoryValentineAnimations]

Your comment is awesome. Loved this movie sad the second movie lost its way.

[@DudeCrazy198]

One thing in Bob's defense that I'll say put him at better odds than the other heroes: he was the hero with the highest threat level at 9.1. Syndrome had no plans to target any specific heroes after him since he was THE hero to take down. That combined with the fact that he has a family of supers and a close friend helps him out a lot too.

[@arsonisfine]

The first time I noticed this movie was actually super dark was when bob was threatening to kill that woman, I was like “wait since when did this happen??”

[@serenawinters205]

Mine was rewatching with my family and finally realizing it was an attempted suicide that started all the lawsuits against heroes.

[@thepaladin4335]

@@serenawinters205 same here… I didn’t get what was happening till I watched it again… “you ruined my death…that’s what u did!” 😬😬😬 I was like….,whoooooaaa kids movie?

[@neveragain1159]

it is so crazy remembering how you understood it as a child vs now

[@croziesour9734]

The part where Helen says there are children on board you see her panic and desperation, Bob's absolute terror, and Mirage is seen looking terrified once that happens. She didn't sign up to kill children. And then there's syndrome who is completely cold and smiling. It's so raw

[@cecereesieschannel1572]

The scene where Bob is being suffocated genuinely terrified me as a kid. You don’t expect to see a protagonist get tortured in such a scary way, or even at all, as a kid.

[@the_oc_maniac8972]

I only just now noticed something. Mr. Incredible's real last name is Parr. Like subpar. How the heck did I not make that connection until you mentioned how Bob always wanted to be nothing less than Incredible, which inspired the Hero name he gave himself?

[@PdPiper-wn2nb]

In portuguese his last name is Pear

[@djroscurro9859]

@@PdPiper-wn2nb LMAO

[@JetWarrior]

Parr is a play on the word "par," which means average. Par is most often heard in Golf--a hole that is a "par 3" means that it takes, on average, 3 strokes to get the ball in the hole. Subpar, as you said, means "below average." So essentially, they were the "Average" family.

[@man-wv8xj]

@@JetWarrior It also works well in tandem with their stereotypically generic names, specifically Bob and Helen.

[@BalthusHomewood]

That's up there with the epiphany I had as a kid when I realized Syndrome had named his island Nomanisan. Nomanisan. Island. No man is an island. 😅

[@Steveobrine_Official]

Watching this movie as a kid: wow, what a fun movie with cool superheroes! Watching this movie when you’re older: HOW DID I MISS ALL THIS

[@DivineChaos204]

Dude u read my mind

[@joaniedallaire4352]

I just notice right now the reason why the family survived the explosion in the plane. When Edna Mode presented the super suits, she mentioned that Helen's one was indestructible and she used explosions to prove that point. And Helen tried to save her children by envelopping them in her body but also her suit. What seemed to me like a stupid plot armor now makes sense to me. Sorry! I had to mention it!

[@MissCaraMint]

I thought all the suits were fire proof. I mean Edna said she put in the “basics” in Jack Jack’s suit. Doesn’t that imply that the other suits are pretty resistant as well?

[@jackblk4]

@@MissCaraMint all the suits are fire proof but Helen's one is indestructible.

[@meaganstitt5947]

@@jackblk4 probably because she has flexible powers so her suit won’t tear whilst **stretching**

[@CrispyAndCaramel]

I realized this movie was way darker than I remember when Bob discovered the corpse of gazer beam in a cave then went and looked at syndromes computer. I'll never forget I was watching and went "Wait...syndrome OFF'D all these heroes?!"

[@sammysam-sam4141]

Helen chanting "Abort there are children on board! Abort, abort! ABORT! ABORT" Scared the SHIT out of me as a kid, and still gives me chills

[@yourlocalcashregister1123]

Stratogale’s secret identity was of a high school student. Seems fine, but then you realize that means that she died when she was only 15-18 years old. She was pretty much still a kid at that point. Imagine how Edna felt.

[@ultrachara2818]

Can we also talk about how Syndrome literally executed order 66 on supers?

[@DannyMotta]

Oh boy can we

[@angelinagarza3473]

Honestly one thing I liked about this scene is how Bob and Helen both realized they were both wrong and right. Helen wanted her kids safe, and so denied them using their powers that would attract the wrong kind of attention. Now even though the kids didn't use their powers, they still had people after them, and now their unprepared instead of able to use their powers to defend themselves. Bob wanted his kids to use their powers and live up to their potential, or what he thought was their potential, and didn't want them to deny what made him feel special, but then he heard his children die, bc he wanted to feel special again, wanted to use his powers and fight, forgetting that these fights don't always end with him winning. People came as fter the kids regardless what they did, and they always would have, and instead of giving them the nesscery tools, of responsibility, or any training they both left their kids as sitting ducks. And as p as parents that's a brutal thing to learn. I don't blame them, I blame syndrom, but in that moment they definitely blamed themselves.

[@omegatired]

And all of which makes the scene with Dash trying to figure out how tight to make his loss at the end even more fun and poignant at the same time.

[@SoraBlackheart]

One detail that i love about that scene is the fact that when Hellen says that there are kids on the plain, Mirage gets scared, the only one who doesn't care is Syndrome and thinking about it now as an adult really changes the way i see the movie, it's such a masterpiece and continues to be it.

[@carmeltabby]

I always liked Mirage because she got scared for Bob's family when she heard there were children on board. Yes, she still saved Syndrome's life immediately after but she still showed more humanity then Syndrome ever did. And she helped Bob escape.

[@SoraBlackheart]

@@carmeltabby yeeees! Mirage isn't a villain in my eyes, she's a nice person deep inside.

[@alandoodles]

Oh no yeah, watching this film as a kid in comparison to now really hits differently. There are so many things I didn't pick up on the first time I watched it.

[@oisinlynch8427]

Same with me and the movie tarzan

[@pivotalpancake5454]

Same, with me for Tarzan, and the Hunchback of Notre Dam.

[@alisa3674]

The moment where Helen started to repeat that there were children on the plane my eyes started to water. I got so scared and my insides twisted when bob realised that his whole family was about to die.

[@timmoreed7970]

This is why the incredibles is one of the best films in animation history. And why people were so hyped for #2, and they pulled it off pretty well there as well.

[@breakops5339]

Number 2 was really good. It was awesome they were able to add in a few swear words for the More grown audience. But the first one is still the best

[@timmoreed7970]

I agree completely, number one is the best, yet I love that they kept the dark realism of what superheroes would actually deal with, instead of ruining a sequel like most good remakes

[@wildfirefox1]

The only thing I cannot believe they did was name the baddie Evelyn Deavor. Evil Endeavor. Fucking ridiculous.

[@nekonomicon2983]

I really like when Violet was arguing back at her mother that she told them they aren't suppose to use their powers. At first I thought Violet was being annoying and stupid in that moment but now I know she was panicking so much and she didn't believe she could do it so she was looking for any reason to not do it.

[@nox9749]

I full-heartily agree because I just LOVE when movies have DEPTH like ACTUALLY depth, and I absolutely EAT that shit up. Actions movies in general have a huge problem with just being explosions, fighting, and that's IT. In animation, you have a HUGE opportunity to express depth a lot more as well as emotion in action, which is why I love animation and film so much.

[@irishanime01]

This is a great view point of this movie. I think what assisted with the intensity of the plane scene is that she thought she was alone. When she found out the kids were there it changes everything. It's also great in a way that Violet couldn't use that part of her power BECAUSE she never practiced it properly. This is such a real movie... You know for a superhero movie.

[@saiyasha848]

I feel the panic when Helen yells "There are CHILDREN on board!". She is so desperate to safe her kids. And you get for the first time that when she said "You don't get to come, it is dangerous" It wasn't a "Oh, tihi, jk, actually you are perfectly equipped for this". No. It was "You CANNOT come. It is DANGEROUS. I cannot guarantee your safety, i do not know the dangers that await me, I want you safe at home."

[@serenawinters205]

The Incredibles is such a dark movie with so many different things adding to it, that in discussing the plane crash, family drama, trauma, and everything else, you didn't even get to mention the attempted suicide which lead to the entire setting after the heroes' prime!

[@SpecterChaos]

Edna talking about past characters and on how they die i also saw a theory that she made syndrome costume and purposely gave him a cape cause she saw dark intentions in him to kill him

[@MddHound]

Syndromes costume isn't pretty enough to be from Edna's hands, so I guess he designed/made it himself since he also wore capes as a kid. Nice theory though 👍

[@toxic_tomb1238]

The scenes aren't that scary, but for what the demographic is it's terrifying, I didn't understand the severity(or since they are in the air) the gravity of the situation until I rewatched it, it doesn't feel like a kids movie especially with some of vernacular they use, I didn't know what mediocrity was back then, back then I thought it was some adult stuff.

[@shelbymason1292]

Watching this as an adult hits so much different than it did as a kid. Also Danny your not the only one who was traumatized by the balls scene, I had nightmares of that scene for such along time.

[@kierahenley2335]

Dark moments in this movie: When Edna talked about the superhero cape casualties Mr. Incredible looking at the list of heroes who were killed by the Omnidroid Helen and the kids escaping the plane being shot down and Mr. Incredible believing they died When Mr. Incredible threatened to crush Mirage if Syndrome didn't release him and nearly suffocating her when she freed him later The kids running from Syndrome's goons who Helen rightfully said earlier wouldn't hesitate to try to kill them When Syndrome kidnapped Jack Jack Syndrome meeting his death by cape similar to Stratogale

[@grantbaugh2773]

I remember watching the bit where Bob says "I can't lose you again!" And that is so much more heart wrenching now that I'm married. I can only imagine it gets more impactful after having children

[@marienault754]

Some other dark topics that I feel like should be discussed: - In the cape scene with Edna, you can tell she feels guilty and responsible for all of those heroes deaths because their suits were her designs - Also in the cape scene, Strato Gal (the girl who got sucked into a jet turbine) WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL WHEN SHE DIED - The desperation in Elastigirls voice when she believed that Dash and Violet were going to be crushed by the ball thing Syndrome releases - Syndrome was planning on kidnapping Jack Jack, assuming to train him and raise him to kill his own parents - The entire chase scene when Dash and Violet were found by Syndromes soldiers - The scene where Mr Incredible discovers all of the super heroes, his friends and colleagues, who have been murdered by the Kronos project - Frozone was originally going to be killed before Mr Incredible, and they were tracking his location and stalking him - They really put an attempted suicide scene in a kids movie This movie is so genuienly good. I have such passion for it omg

[@delilah.brooks]

> - The entire chase scene when Dash and Violet were found by Syndromes soldiers There's that one scene there where Violet jumps in front of a soldier who was attempting to shoot Dash and she creates a force field. Dash asks how she did that, she said she didn't know. I think she was attempting to take the bullet(s) for Dash.

[@marienault754]

@@delilah.brooks YES!! i cant believe i forgot that part.

[@BababooeyGooey]

I think you undercut an important part of the conversation between Violet and Helen outside the cave. Yes, she (gently) tells Violet that she needs to understand how dire the situation is, but she also apologizes to Violet for putting all that pressure on her back in the plane. She may be older than Dash, but she's still a teenager that was told all her life to repress her powers to appear "normal" (and comes to resent not being "normal.") Helen knows this and regrets dumping all that weight on her daughter's shoulders in the worst of circumstances, but when they're (relatively) safe, she tries to raise Violet's morale while still reminding her that she needs to step up to protect herself and her little brother. Helen's walking a tightrope between being a supportive parent, and also urging her children to take charge in the face of danger. Like I get you were going for hyperbole, but still, your summation of "you disappointed me" is pretty misrepresentative of what Helen was trying to convey to Violet.

[@teresaw2028]

10:02 Uh, I don't think that's really what Mrs. Incredible was saying. She was assuring her that the whole thing wasn't her fault and even claimed that it was unfair on her part to expect so much of her. Which is really such a mature response, I think

[@breakops5339]

Watching this movie years later is so interesting, the small inuendos and darker themes really make it all more enjoyable. I would be curious on your thought comparing this one too the sequel or even a review in the Incredibles video game.

[@drakelordiscool]

I mean you didn't even bring up the part that Helen suspects Bob is cheating on her. When I was a kid I was so confused how Helen finding a piece of hair meant she needed to go save her husband. Looking back on it, it is crazy that Pixar would even suggest cheating as a plot point

[@mihacimpric745]

I never watched this movie as a kid, and when I finally gave it a shot two years ago, I was blown away. That scene with Bob and Mirage "What more could you possibly take from me" sufficiently shivered every timber I had.

[@christophersmith6587]

I don't think anyone realized how emotional it was in the scene when Bob is looking at all the supers who were defeated by syndrome's Omnidroids and he searched up Helens hero name and he was so relieved to find out that her location was unknown.

[@eva1585]

Those were his friends! I cant remember exactly but wasnt some of them seen at Helen and Bob's wedding in the beginning?

[@alyssasasmr7612]

@@eva1585 Yeah,they were

[@tarinacj03]

You mention it briefly but Helen getting increasingly frantic as she radios that there are children on the plane fucks me up every single time. Like the kids fear is so real but so is hers. Shes terrified. These are her children and there is nothing she can do to keep them safe. Shes screaming at Violet and putting so much on her in that moment because the people she is begging for amnesty aren't listening and her daughters powers are the only thing she can grasp at to protect them. I think about this scene a lot. Pixar today could never.

[@munchi7664]

It feels like all of today's children's movies are just packed with "hidden" adult jokes.

[@Millennial_Echo]

It makes me wonder what he thinks of Incredibles 2.

[@UndisclosedTalent]

It was good... just not as good as no. 1...

[@meeramalhotra33]

Action and drama aside, I absolutely LOVE how Edna's supersuits essentially saved the day. Everything she said comes back to you even though it was played for comedy-"it can withstand temperatures over 1000 degrees, completely bulletproof." "What on earth do you think the baby will be doing?" "I'm sure I don't know darling. I just covered the basics. Luck favours the prepared" Oh, it sure as hell did 💯

[@dero_oan]

Back when Disney Channel South East Asia was still broadcasting it was notorious for cutting, editing, and censoring scenes out. The Incredibles was THE MOST edited out of all the Pixar movies. So that really says some things

[@CRAgamer]

The "you didn't save my life you ruined my death" line in the beginning was so raw this movie goes in and out of dark places without hesitation.

[@codygold2376]

another moment that is heart breaking realizing that I am older, when Violet makes her first successful force field, she does using her own body to block bullets that were aimed at dash. she through herself in front to protect her brother and her powers activated.

[@rjmartinez4800]

This is so true and also are we also going to talk about how dash low key killed like 10 guys during the chase scene

[@erikkennedy8725]

That scene was originally even -darker-. The original script called for there to be a pilot, a long time friend of Helen, who didn't make it.

[@claranunes5576]

This movie is verry special to me. I watched when I was like a BABY. I think I was 2. And my parents put it on VHS when they go out and I watched OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I think it was one of the first movies I Have seen. I am just 17 now but THIS MOVIE IS MY FAVORITE OF ALL TIME I know all the lines and It has a very special place in my heart. Loved the video about my favorite movie ever. Beijos do BrasilTe adoro Danny!! Espero que seu canal cresça cada vez maaaais!🇧🇷🇧🇷💓💓

[@anaharada101]

I remeber watching this on cinema and thinking like "awsome! I wanna be Violet" let's go to McDonalds to get her toy. And then in my 20's I watched it again before Incredibles 2 and I got two reactions: 1. Wow this adult shit is really hard, I mean, the marrige issues, the hint of an affair, how it feels to see that that you've already peaked, parenthood drama. It was kind of sad identifying with the mom and dad instead of the kids (anyway, the perrils of getting old I guess) 2. Helen is really pretty *Also! Framed Danny swichted spots with the lamp and is now beside Ainosuke. Channel easteregg?

[@oplars6487]

Is part 2 worth it? I've seen the bike clip and it was really cool, but the general opinion seems to be that 2 wasnt as good

[@annarodriguezanna]

Also add the fact that helen originally told violet to never show her power so she wasn't very confident she could use it on command

[@just-yugo4528]

Wow, even just by the title of the video, you made me rethink every one of my childhood movies and how terrifying they are. Thank you?

[@thebeaniebean]

im so glad you mentioned this movie and how dark it really is. it's one of my favorite pixar films but damn its stressful

[@exumbra1399]

Yep! My entire family watched this movie 3 days in a row after we got it many years ago! And Mr. Incredible does not hate his family or Fatherhood. WHAT HE DOES HATE is the fact that his calling, the thing he is by far the most passionate about and best at, is decried by the officially sponsored media as evil, irresponsible, and punishable by "law" (think of war veterans vs public opinion in the last 80 years) . And then, issues of middle age chime in...

[@stxrynn]

I saw this movie with my kids. It was their birthday present to me. I loved it. Especially where Dash is running on water. My feet moved almost as fast as his and I laughed with him! It is still one of my all time favorite movies. You NAILED THIS!!! It is an adult cartoon, it does have real emotion and it speaks so clearly. It's a very honest film. And like every great hero movie, the good guys make it right in the end..... for everyone..... And the look on the kids' faces when the Underminer pops up shows they knew what they were about, and were as serious as their parents. That talk in front of the cave was clear and brutal. It was exactly how I had talked to my kids when they were old enough to understand that NO ONE loved them like I did. And there were people out there that would use them like we use toilet paper, without any thought or remorse. Facing danger with an ability to meet it head on was my idea of the proper way to raise my kids. It's how I was raised. The world is a brutal, ugly place sometimes. And if you aren't prepared to meet it, it will eat you. The safest place is being competent to meet it head on.

[@cutiepie120048]

The scene in The Incredibles that haunted me then most is when it was revealed that all of Bob & Helen's friends were killed - how the scene played out destroyed me.

[@Psycopathicus]

Agreed. 'The Incredibles' is one of the flat-out best superhero films ever made, due to its superlative writing and character-building. It deconstructs the genre without making fun of it, gives you all the cool superhero stuff you could want and then some, and grounds the whole story in relatable reality by putting a family drama at the core of it - a really good one, too. There's even a bit of social commentary thrown in, but in a way that is - gasp! - SUBTLE. If Disney/Pixar still made movies like this, there'd be a lot more happy people right now.

[@ariannablove]

Oh man, watching this movie as a mother hits waaaaayyyyy harder than when I was a kid, because I can definitely relate to Helen.

[@jason7120]

The original plane crashed scene had a pilot the person she talks to in the final version to get the plane. When the plane goes down the pilot dies, but the writers changed that because they didn't want to put the death of the pilot on violet for failing to make the force field around the entire plane and the mother for sacrificing him to save her children. The scene was going to be much much darker.

[@nu_jasuu6873]

This movie actually scared me a little at times when I was a kid despite me not fully grasping the darker tones and themes, I also felt the tense fear and concern my parents and older siblings had while watching this movie.

[@jobes8315]

The accuracy to real life that this animated film presents is mind boggling when you think about it, they get even minor details that I pick up every time I watch, like when the plane exploded and they all regain consciousness mid air, thats real life, above 10k ft you become hypoxic and lose consciousness, once your below 10k ft you would regain it realizing you're falling from the sky, they even touched on the hypoxia thing in the second film too

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

4:59 Waking up to your children's screams while you're ALL PLUMETTING TOWARDS THE OCEAN would almost DEFINITELY give me nightmares for months to years. JESUS CHRIST.

[@Pinktwinkie.]

It's the darkest pixar movie ever. Mr incredible becoming uncanny scenes were soo dark in the movie.

[@DiamondG489]

I remember watching this movie as a kid (I think I still have the old DVD set for it too) and thought some of these scenes felt...different, like I wasn't supposed to see it until rewatching it as an adult and man. Old Disney/Pixar were very bold when it comes to certain films and this one was definitely the boldest while being some of their best films to ever be made by Disney/Pixar because of how ballsy they were when it comes to older films, but now can't even do what they were very good at doing: making a story that sticks to you even as an adult years later

[@l.raphaelnery7299]

The Incredibles is probably the most adult kids movie I had ever seen....it's still a great movie though

[@Jeminix2]

I thought I was the only one that was unreasonably scared of the scene with the balls when I was a child 😂

[@katelinmcmillan8998]

It scared me too

[@Ese_Moreno04]

I'll be honest and say I enjoyed the plane scene in this movie simply from the perspective of someone who loves action scenes because it has action. But I never took into consideration the thought process that the kids had to have been going through in that whole conflict. This basically just took my opinion of this scene and raised it up from a 10 to a 12.

[@galiantus1354]

Fun fact: Helen uses correct military radio communications during the whole plane scene. As in, she says basically what an air force pilot would say in the same situation, down to some incredibly specific terms - like "buddy-spiked" (which refers to missiles targeting a friendly aircraft) or "transmitting in the blind guard" (she doesn't know if the tower can hear her, but is transmitting anyway). Note: I don't personally know military or aviation lingo, I just searched the terms she used.

[@pivotalpancake5454]

So this is why my parents literally loved this movie when we first saw it. As for the kids, the entertainment is there, with the colorful characters and action. But the dark undertones similar to a Bond film for older audiences who can actually understand what was going on. Oh, and realistic family drama.

[@TheDylanHoang]

What fascinates me most is how the animation medium (not genre) is often correlated with a kid’s film. Animation isn’t a genre, but just a method of telling a story. Are most animated films kid friendly? Sure and it makes sense why. They don’t feel as realistic visually so they can get away with more. But you nailed it on the head. It’s all down to the writing and context. Pixar in general imbues their films with themes both children and adults can relate to, The Incredibles being one of the best examples. Mid-life crises, strained marriages, the depression of working a 9-5, those aren’t themes for children. But they are themes they can certainly begin to tune into when told well. Animated movies aren’t kid’s movies, they’re just a different medium that can still convey very complex themes in kid friendly fashions. The sooner we move away from disavowing animated films as just “something for kids” the better. That all said, Great video!! Thank you for taking the time to concisely express all of this. I too wish PIXAR went back to this kind of mature storytelling

[@AKUNJIG]

I remember that in a Deleted scene the Helens Friend was the Pilot and he was Killed from the Missile Attack. The Writers thought it was too dark so they wrote this scene we see here.

[@imanhayati2709]

I actually cried watching the plane scene seeing helen saying there are children in the plane and it was sooo intense

[@treefrog1018]

For the record, Mom did tell Violet that she was wrong to put that much pressure on her in the aircraft.

[@lonewolfreading]

I remember rewatching this recently with my godson and same. This scene nearly took me out. Like damn, it wasn't this bad when I watched it as a kid.

[@wolfgangsanyer3544]

100% agree. As a dad, rewatching this movie hit so much harder than watching it as a kid

[@firelordprometheus6345]

There's also that brief moment as syndrome and mirage exit the room you hear Mr. Incredible sobbing. Thinking he's just lost everything. Heartbreaking.

[@thehumblehalfrican562]

There's a few things I wish he would have mentioned like the fact that Luscious aka Frozone was going to be syndromes next target. It would explain why the omnidroid fight would take place on an active volcanic Island if you think about it. The Droid would either be beaten because Frozone had the entire ocean and plenty of water so he'd never dehydrate and Syndrome would account for that in the remodel or it would adapt to quickly for Frozone and draw him or push him the center of the volcano and ultimately whittle him down till it could kill him. Also he didn't mention the suicide attempt. The fact that the Parr Family actually all has mercenary kills under their belt. Then there’s the fact that several military and police are killed by the Omidroid when it attacks. Remember the Helicopter crew that went down with an explosion large enough to be seen frome Frozone's penthouse mind you so that most likely killed or severely injured several other people. And the initial military response when we see the tank take a shot and immediately get blown up just before it cut away so we don't know how many more military were killed before the Parr's arrived. Let's see there’s the fact that the government agency Rick Dicker works for that are in charge of relocating supers has to track down anyone who has ever know that super, kidnap them and wipe any and all memories pertaining to said super. It's not specified if they also replace the memories they erase but I'd have to imagine they'd have to otherwise people would start asking questions about why their friends and/or family suddenly can't remember anything that happened during certain part of their life. Then you have to multiply all that work by however many members of the family there are children included. Let's see there’s also the hero’s that died because of capes including Strato Gale who was either high school age or just barely out of high school, I believe she was 16 or 18. Of course this fact ended up being a sort of Checovs Gun with Syndrome being the shot that was fired. I also just remembered that when Frozone froze the office if you're following the laws of nature then that cop is either dead or will live the rest of his life with permanent nerve damage from being incased in ice. It's honestly though more likely that he died from suffocation because last time I checked you can’t breath through ice. But yeah I agree it is a really dark movie that I love re-watching. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

[@coderaven1107]

Nice one :) If you would do a video about it, I would watch it 🤩

[@lwitte8857]

Even just the line “Abort! Abort! Abort!” Really gets me. The emotion the VA (Holly Hunter) imbued to it is jaw dropping every time.

[@julesheart4784]

I've never managed to pinpoint why in these recent years superheroes films always feel shallow to me and leave me disappointed while I used to LOVE the genre, well this is it, this is the cause: intrusive comedy!!! "the scenes that are meant to be dramatic aren't overshadowed by intrusive comedy" thank you for finally putting it into words (great video by the way!!)

[@thekoi171]

"Incredibles is the darkest pixar movie ever" *Mr. Incredible turning uncanny sounds*

[@Ivory81]

Not long ago I watched this with my grandmother and I was sitting there in mild shock because I mentally blanked out half of the events of the movie 👩‍🦯

[@RealHyperHedgehog]

Incredibles being so dark is why it’s my favorite animated movie.

[@seaflavoureddaisy]

The plane scene always puts me so nervous and close to tears. Her begging them that there's kids on board over and over, ordering Violet to put a barrier on the plane and then the terrified look on her face as she sees that this might be the end and jumps to the back to body shield her children.

[@I-need-2-win]

Pixar movies just hit different when you're older, man I never knew it was this dark

[@calebmcurby8580]

@2:32 "The dude went from being Mr. Incredible to Mr. Ordinary." Missed observation: he is literally Mr. Parr. A par in golf is the standard of average

[@maiyaallred3992]

After seeing this video I went to rewatch the movie and wow It literally had a guy trying to kill himself in the first scenes It had Helen trying to make sure her kids don't die while worrying about what Bob has been doing behind her back Bob goes through this moment of trying to become a hero again only to find out many of his old friends had died to this twisted game Syndrome made. To be captured, electric tortured and then had to experience the pain of loosing his entire family just to drag them into danger after finding their alive

[@CandyThePuppy]

4:31 Yeah that scene horrified me as a kid. 'XD

[@NotBlaKe.]

Me too..

[@Mpiewizard]

Helen desperately shouting “there are children on board!” as a last resort during the plane chase scene gives me chills and almost makes me cry every time I watch it. I’ve also gain so much more respect for Mr. Incredibles writing the older I get. Everyone in this film is so well fleshed out and that’s not an easy thing to accomplish.

[@Chowder12345able]

Probably my favourite scene is when Bob finds out what happened to the other supers. Absolutely bone chilling