Why the Latest Plug-In Hybrids are Better Than Long-Range EV's - TheSmokingTire

  Рет қаралды 92,518

TheSmokingTire

TheSmokingTire

Жыл бұрын

Use Off The Record! and ALWAYS fight your tickets! Enter code TST10 for a 10% discount on your first case on the Off The Record app, or go to off-the-record.sjv.io/c/27655...
In California and several other states, lawmakers want to phase out the sale of internal combustion engines entirely over the next 12 years. But as we have learned over and over, the public charging infrastructure is not remotely ready for this, and EV's have other looming questions surrounding the globial ethics of mining and processing rare-earth metals. But the latest crop of small-battery plug-in Hybrids is getting super impressive. To learn the difference, Matt and Zack take a short road trip in the Polestar 2 high-performance EV and the Volvo XC60 Recharge plug-in Hybrid.
Volvo and Polestar provided the vehicles, insurance, and a tank of fuel for this video.
Written by: Matt Farah and Zack Klapman
Edited by: Zack Klapman
Want to watch the live stream, get ad-free podcasts, or exclusive podcasts? Join our Patreon: / thesmokingtirepodcast
Follow us!
/ thesmokingtire
/ therealzackklapman
Check out our PODCAST! Over 100,000 listeners and counting!
KZbin: / thesmokingtirepodcast
Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/4nl2Rna...
Apple podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Google Podcasts: podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0...
NEW SHIRTS!
www.blipshift.com/tst
Here's Why the Latest Plug-In Hybrids are Actually Better Than Long-Range EV's - TheSmokingTire
#polestar2
#volvoXC60recharge

Пікірлер: 545
@xprettylightsx3781
@xprettylightsx3781 Жыл бұрын
After learning about Zach’s social anxiety it’s so impressive how natural and talented he is in front of a camera in which he knows will reach 20k ppl plus… says a lot about the will.
@zackklapman3569
@zackklapman3569 Жыл бұрын
If this video only gets 20k views then it wasn’t worth 30 hours of editing, but I thank you anyway.
Жыл бұрын
@@zackklapman3569 You have the experience hanging around with with old shouty do you think his Irish cousin is on the Evenflow channel?
@BooTub3
@BooTub3 Жыл бұрын
@@zackklapman3569 daddddddy 😭 When are you coming back to the Bay Area?? I think I missed the event y’all were doing at Sonoma
@bavariancarenthusiast2722
@bavariancarenthusiast2722 Жыл бұрын
@@zackklapman3569 Zack - it will be more! Great review and very interesting as a theme
@bitjockey
@bitjockey Жыл бұрын
Guys, this format is fantastic. Really easy to watch and entertaining. Great job.
@PigglyWigglyDeluxe
@PigglyWigglyDeluxe Жыл бұрын
18:01 civic type R wizzed by and he didn’t break focus. What a boss
@ShaiyanHossain
@ShaiyanHossain Жыл бұрын
you can see his eyes dart for a sec LOL, but he doesnt stutter or anythin lmao
@TheSmokingTire
@TheSmokingTire Жыл бұрын
I commented on it but I cut that part from the video. GREAT color for the CTR. - Zack
@johngaudet6316
@johngaudet6316 Жыл бұрын
A true professional!!
@jax1079
@jax1079 Жыл бұрын
I get so frustrated having this conversation with people who casually dismiss EVs in all forms. Plug-ins are freaking great, and they’re only going to get better and more relevant. They are the PERFECT stop gap or stepping stone (however you look at it). This is a GREAT video, guys, and very entertaining. Now I’ll just point to this video whenever people ask me dumb questions 😂
@kenbrinkman
@kenbrinkman Жыл бұрын
I love my gen 2 Chevy Volt! Bought new in 2018 and has a lifetime mpg of 140! Over 30k miles, the gas engine was only used for about 7k. It's a shame Chevy stopped iterating on the Voltec drivetrain because they were way ahead of the curve on PHEVs
@tonyn3227
@tonyn3227 Жыл бұрын
Agreed great car for times, but leave it to gm yo screw things up and make bad decisions, bitch Mary Bara
@impslap7620
@impslap7620 Жыл бұрын
Damn shame. But politics always trumps technology.
@adamfry1125
@adamfry1125 Жыл бұрын
23k miles lugging around a complicated unused dead weight. Sounds a great plan 🤔
@zackklapman3569
@zackklapman3569 Жыл бұрын
Have you had to replace the battery or is it still working ?
@kenbrinkman
@kenbrinkman Жыл бұрын
@@adamfry1125 same can be said for about 70 kWh worth of battery in a full BEV. Weight will be there no matter what
@mopsnuf
@mopsnuf Жыл бұрын
My dad bought a '23 XC60 T8 Recharge. We both adore the car. Like you said, the air suspension (combined with adaptive dampers) does wonders for ride quality and handling - though it's not a canyon carver by any stretch of the imagination. I'd personally shy away from any Ohlins-damped modern Volvo, from what I've read. They give up a *lot* of comfort and ride quality without getting much handling in return, because the steering is still numb. The XC60 Recharge is the do-it-all car in my mind. It's fast when you need it to be, there's plenty of electric range to guarantee very low average fuel consumption, I like the looks, the materials and finish are excellent, it's spacious and well-optioned, and I like the driver assist tech. For a daily driver and road trip mile muncher in one, I highly recommend you get one Matt! You have excellent handling and 'experience' cars for those occasions to complement it.
@Cal94
@Cal94 Жыл бұрын
as someone awaiting delivery of a V60 recharge... my biggest worry for PHEVs is, long-term ownership wise, we've got the worst of both worlds to worry about. PHEVs don't always have a heat pump and/or the same level of battery conditioning as EVs, so we may not have the same efficiency or battery longevity, as dedicated EVs. on the mechanical side, if the gas engine only ever comes on for a brief spell once in a blue moon, [or worse, the first 5ish mins of every drive in winter] then we need to worry about engine/transmission problems from never getting sustained use at operating temps. and all that, is on top of the fact that many companies making PHEVs aren't exactly sterling examples of reliability to begin with.
@Talisman18t
@Talisman18t Жыл бұрын
I think in actual practice, you get significantly less wear and tear on both propulsion products. At least for the Ford Fusion (which I am extremely familiar with), the Hybrids and Plug-In Hybrids have proven to be the most reliable of all the options. Easily lasting 200-300k miles without major issues.
@Cal94
@Cal94 Жыл бұрын
​@@Talisman18t were they mostly fleet cars or privately owned? fleet cars i imagine still got in plenty of heat cycles and more regular maintenance, so that'd make a lot of sense. And ford's had multiple partnerships with toyota on hybrid technology so [ford build quality aside] the fusion energi should've had a solid engineering base. but for privately owned cars, ford doubled the service interval for the fusion energi vs the hybrid/gas cars. which is the last thing a mechanic would normally tell u to do, if you knew your gas car only ever does short drives.
@moonsapling
@moonsapling Жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid. I bought it used 2 years ago with ~80 000 miles on the clock. Currently it sits at ~160 00 miles. From my experience the engine works a lot less and when it does, the load isnt as much as a regular ICE car. The battery has an air fan which is responsible for keeping the battery at the right temperature. Ive done dusty trails on hot summer days off the beaten path and never had the battery overheat or even coming close to that. I had my hybrid battery checked 4 months ago and its basically as good as new. No noticeable degradation was discovered. Even if something does go wrong with the battery its a much smaller unit so the price wont be astronomical like a full EV.
@Talisman18t
@Talisman18t Жыл бұрын
@@Cal94 They're both types of owners. I run a business and several social media pages for the Ford Fusion with tens of thousands of owners utilizing them. That's one of the most constant things I hear. How much people love both Hybrid versions of the car and how reliable they are with very little maintenance.
@Cal94
@Cal94 Жыл бұрын
hmm. I went blind to the NPC cars. toyota, ford, and mitsubishi PHEVs tend to have dual injection and run naturally aspirated, so it'd make sense they hold up better for longer. but they're not the only players anymore. mazda, stellantis, the koreans and the europeans are all in or entering the space, and they're all running GDI, forced induction, [sometimes very high strung] engines. in warmer climates, and if u never need to run the gas engine, i imagine they're perfectly fine. but in colder climates, these PHEVs sound like a recipe for carbon buildup and sludge [if neglected]. at very least, i wouldn't dare skip an oil change with any of them.
@griffinwilliams2818
@griffinwilliams2818 Жыл бұрын
I know you’ve discussed on the podcast that anything other than performance car reviews tanks ratings but this comparison is a great piece. The editing and commentary is what we’re here for, no mater the subject matter.
@BjCmeadows
@BjCmeadows Жыл бұрын
Great job highlighting the realistic nuances of these transportation options guys! Love the format of combining drive impressions, feature explanation, and real world use cases in one well paced video.
@shehandesilva7530
@shehandesilva7530 Жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, how many EV miles were you able to add back in by the time you got in to the city, and what MPG did you average doing so?
@jdhazan
@jdhazan Жыл бұрын
He said 12 miles on the podcast and didnt notice a major hit in mpg
@shehandesilva7530
@shehandesilva7530 Жыл бұрын
@@jdhazan that's pretty impressive, appreciate the info!
@agentFonseca
@agentFonseca Жыл бұрын
@@jdhazan hi there What episode was that? I just found this channel :)
@jdhazan
@jdhazan Жыл бұрын
@@agentFonseca kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHfXiKCDh7-efc0
@golllluk
@golllluk Жыл бұрын
@@shehandesilva7530 I own a Ford Escape PHEV. I found it about 80% efficient using the charge mode vs just driving on the increased gas used. It tends to recharge faster when driving around the city vs highway, where it seems to have less power free for recharging.
@rapom61393
@rapom61393 Жыл бұрын
I’m SOOO glad someone else is on board. I’ve been beating this drum for years. A plug in hybrid meets the needs of 90%of the population, 90% of the time.
@jjgravante
@jjgravante Жыл бұрын
13:54 - On Volvos & Polestars, the cruise control adjusts in increments of 1 mph if you push and hold the button. If you just press it once it moves in increments of 5 mph. Took me months of owning a Volvo to learn this
@aljowen
@aljowen Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure my Volvo's cruise control goes 1kph at a time on a car that is sold in a mph market :p (but mine is an older 2012 car)
@Iamthirst
@Iamthirst Жыл бұрын
I am so frustrated by all other systems not doing this now. It’s extremely convenient. Even the ones that work opposite just don’t seem as efficient. Speed limit just dropped by 10 mph click twice and I’m done.
@DainHunter
@DainHunter Жыл бұрын
@@Iamthirst Yeah i love my 2013 V60 for this.
@stevenh766
@stevenh766 Жыл бұрын
Lesson learned from this video? Zach is well deserving of and in need of a raise!!!
@wcmontana
@wcmontana Жыл бұрын
I second that notion!
@kurlyfry7916
@kurlyfry7916 Жыл бұрын
That’s old news dude. Zach has been in need of a raise for a looooong time.
@sean9820
@sean9820 Жыл бұрын
I rented a tesla model 3 for 9 days in socal, covering 900 miles over my vacation. Never once had an issue with range anxiety or charging. Most super chargers gave me 80% in 20-25 minutes. Absolutely outstanding experience and for the record I daily an FJ Cruiser.
@Snerdles
@Snerdles Жыл бұрын
I have a PHEV that I'm using to drive for a food delivery service. Depending on the weather and how long I go out at a time I am pulling somewhere in the range of 60mpg to 150mpg in the city. If you think of it as a gas mitigation vehicle rather than a really short range EV they work great. My gripe is that they are so expensive you will almost never pay for the increased costs in gas savings. It's a very hard sell to make people pay more to save a bit on their vehicle 7 years in the future. At least in Canada the EV rebate covers PHEVs if they have a 50km range or more, and half of they have less. That means 5k off the purchase price, and in some provinces up to 10k off which can actually make the PHEV cheaper than the hybrid of the same model, which is a no brainer if you can plug it in at all.
@mostmost1
@mostmost1 Жыл бұрын
My prius prime was cheap. Got it during the pandemic when fas was cheap and everyone wanted trucks and suvs. I do amazon flex with it and it's great on gas. I wouldn't deliver in anything less.
@kbmblizz1940
@kbmblizz1940 Жыл бұрын
In Calif the largest car population state by far, at $5/gal it is < 5 years breakeven if you own solar & drive average distance. With Fed & stste tax incentives, even sooner. Gas$ will only go up.
@lecm5025
@lecm5025 Жыл бұрын
Great video and excellent points for the “electrification” of vehicles. After owning a Hybrid Accord for a few years, the idea of burning gas at a stop light or drive through seemed silly. I’ve been waiting for Honda to build an Odyssey Hybrid for a while. How we use our vehicles on a daily basis is different and I like to own vehicles that fit my family’s lifestyle 80-90% of the time.
@bauerj66
@bauerj66 Жыл бұрын
What a great peice of content. The car focused content was great and very informative. Also, continuing the new comparison format and topic were excellent.
@Briggsian
@Briggsian Жыл бұрын
From a decarbonization perspective, we need: 1. Better public transit and more walkable/bikable cities 2. More and more reliable charging infrastructure 3. Hydrogen fuel cells for edge cases where EVs aren't practical and public transit isn't possible. Battery technology will improve to the point where we can substantially reduce the amount lithium involved in production and improve charge times. LFP batteries are already available that move the market away from depending on questionably sourced cobalt and manganese.
@mattoniomaximus9765
@mattoniomaximus9765 Жыл бұрын
@TheSmokingTire "The rule establishes a year-by-year roadmap so that by 2035 100% of new cars and light trucks sold in California will be zero-emission vehicles, including plug-in hybrid electric vehicles." from the same article you posted. Just as a clarification, CA doesnt want you to only buy full EV.
@kylem324
@kylem324 Жыл бұрын
Great video. These PHEV’s could also operate as backup power walls at the house if engineered to do so. Basically 13kw would probably provide 24thrs of backup power. And you could use the generator to top up if needed.
@ukgroucho
@ukgroucho Жыл бұрын
Great comment. Sadly few PHEV manufacturers seem to be including vehicle to home or vehicle to grid functionality. It is probably (and I've not researched) more common in full EVs - Tesla I know are into this - but it is definitely a subject that needs more visibility and more public demand. I've got a Mazda CX-60 PHEV on order that I should collect in the next week or so, 17.8KwH battery... My Tesla Powerwall is 13.2KwH if I recall... adding some juice from the car to my home would be HUGE especially early in the year (like now) when days are a bit short on daylight but I can still fully charge the powerwall (on a good day) and be exporting a bunch of power - but can't quite make it thru the night on the powerwall alone (especially if I run the oven to cook dinner etc.) I'd love to be able to use the extra capacity in the car as a buffer for the house...
@kylem324
@kylem324 Жыл бұрын
@@ukgroucho As I understand it, there’s only a few BEV’s (Ford/Hyundai/Nissan) and one PHEV (Mitsubishi) that offer bidirectional charging currently. (And BYD - which isn’t in North America yet.)
@bud215
@bud215 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. It really made me think about what I actually need in a daily.
@mattbarnabe
@mattbarnabe Жыл бұрын
Shout out to the CBC mug in the first shot!
@hypervipergtx
@hypervipergtx Жыл бұрын
Wildly great commentary! Keep up the good work!
@Debrha
@Debrha Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and comparison! I love both cars but i really also like the concept of the hybrid. Especially after the batteries got bigger. A couple of weeks ago I drove the Polestar 1 hybrid for 1650 miles on California (rental from Hertz in LAX) It works the exact same way but with longer range and more electric power. It was hard finding convenient charging though because most hotels didn't have chargers. So i only cable charged once. But it's really nice having the option of charging with the engine too. You can also hold a certain battery level if needed. I'm a new fan of your channel. Great video!
@evflyguy
@evflyguy Жыл бұрын
As a current Polestar 2 lessee who's had little need of and little issue with the current public charging infrastructure, this vid perfectly explains why I'm considering the new Prius Prime when my lease ends. My situation is very similar to Matts. Lvl 2 at home and lvl 1 at work. About 32 miles round trip a day max.
@zackklapman3569
@zackklapman3569 Жыл бұрын
Does your Apple CarPlay work correctly? (Ignore if you’re an android user)
@acoga
@acoga Жыл бұрын
@@zackklapman3569 I’m not the one you replied to but I have a Polestar 2. Carplay works perfectly for me. It must be connected via cable, no wireless option.
@tylersasaki2935
@tylersasaki2935 Жыл бұрын
Love this format. The show don't tell moments were especially pleasing when you highlighted the shifter and the audio branding
@johngaudet6316
@johngaudet6316 Жыл бұрын
OMG, the Bowers&Wilkins audio is so excellent.
@WAYTOOCOMPLICATED
@WAYTOOCOMPLICATED Жыл бұрын
This was fascinating, the vehicles, and the real life experience 👍👍 And the skit at the beginning was 👌
@Crolis
@Crolis Жыл бұрын
We settled on a Pacifica Hybrid PHEV when we upgraded our minivan. Our use case was very similar to yours: Mostly suburban errands to and from places like schools, stores and appointments. We got the L2 charger in our garage and spend most of the time on electric. On those times when we want to take a longer trip -- we've done a couple of 3000 mile round trips so far -- we don't have to think about charging. Your point about how many PHEVs you can make with the battery one EV is built with is a very important point that gets lost on many. If you want to get people used to electrified vehicles, PHEVs will make it much easier and give battery manufacturing and charging infrastructure time to catch up.
@bvedant
@bvedant Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of when James May and Jeremy Clarkson compared the BMW i3 and the Golf GTI with Jeremy singing about how silly EVs were and made it to a music show in the Golf while James was anxious in the i3 and missed the concert entirely.
@johngaudet6316
@johngaudet6316 Жыл бұрын
I really miss those guys on Top Gear, I would laugh so much !!
@stevenivankin9613
@stevenivankin9613 Жыл бұрын
Love the more frequent format this video carries.
@spooksmagee
@spooksmagee Жыл бұрын
Really loving the new format for these videos.
@r5LgxTbQ
@r5LgxTbQ Жыл бұрын
Been driving a '14 C-Max Energi for 8 years now. The 20 mile range gets me to the stores and work and back. Gas gets me everywhere else. Works great for me.
@AXXeYY
@AXXeYY Жыл бұрын
awesome content and TheSmokingTire has always done fair revievs on volvos. and this why i drive Phev its best of two worlds. (the new battery is 18,8 kwh)
@victorking10281987
@victorking10281987 Жыл бұрын
The way of speaking from these 02 hosts is so clean and clear for which to those who has poor English can easily understand well, good job.
@PigglyWigglyDeluxe
@PigglyWigglyDeluxe Жыл бұрын
0:58 that just means Matt isn’t paying you well enough 😂
@CCxKiller13
@CCxKiller13 Жыл бұрын
Greddy fat af matt lol
@mornadu
@mornadu Жыл бұрын
Matt would rather buy himself another rolex 😅
@CCxKiller13
@CCxKiller13 Жыл бұрын
@@mornadu another bag of cheeseburgers lol
@robertmontgomery7158
@robertmontgomery7158 Жыл бұрын
The saddest thing is the lithium batteries are not recyclable. Pure waste going into garbage dumps. What a nightmare
@sweetgregt
@sweetgregt Жыл бұрын
I love the Polestar 2 so much. Not surprised that the XC60 is great. That Volvo quality in both.
@Iamthirst
@Iamthirst Жыл бұрын
I have the xc and was in a 2 for the last week. The xc is a nicer, more comfortable vehicle, but the 2 is a blast to drive and not too far behind. I don’t like how the center divider encroaches on my right leg and presses against it the way I sit though.
@hughgarsehotmail
@hughgarsehotmail Жыл бұрын
I came to the same conclusion 4 years ago and bought a Golf GTE. However , you also get the worst of both solutions, much more expensive servicing and twice as much to go wrong, which both happened. I've since gone back to a petrol car until electric is more matured.
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 Жыл бұрын
The problems of second/third owner. Not before 250.000km.
@Briggsian
@Briggsian Жыл бұрын
It's also the worst of both worlds from an ethical perspective. You get the pollution and human rights violations associated with battery production, and the pollution, human rights violations, and emissions associated with the fossil fuels industry. Then again, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, so that's a losing battle regardless of the choice. Even a bicycle or electrified public transit can have ethics problems.
@donswier
@donswier Жыл бұрын
This video confirms my 3 year experiment with a Range Extender (i3 REx). Averaging 24,000 miles per year on 25 gallons of gasoline. Never hostage to public charging (even though we use it when it's convenient). Saving $2500 annually on gas. Spending only $500 on home L2 charging.
@grecopena
@grecopena Жыл бұрын
I agree. After retiring five years ago. I traded in my my Kia Stinger as our daily driver for a Kia Niro hybrid and love it’s efficiency and regeneration while driving in the sport mode. Still have our 12 year old Prius hybrid now averaging down to 42 MPG as our second daily driver. Besides the uncomfortable driver seats, it’s a little tank for transportation. When. I want to have fun driving I drive my 2004 Porsche C 4S convertible that runs like a charm. They all work out just great. I’m going to drive my 911 hopefully to over 200,000 miles or more. I got a good one. Best guys.
@joetacchino4470
@joetacchino4470 Жыл бұрын
Good discussion on the realities of EV vs. PHEV. I owned an EV, now my wife has a PHEV with about 35 miles of range and we nearly got 1,000 miles out of the last tank of gas and averaged about 55 MPG (not bad for a full sized SUV) which included two longer highway runs where the electrics don't work often. The main issue with the PHEV in EV mode is that you have to get one with enough oomph to where it won't kick the engine on all the time. And even when you do, you still lack acceleration (in Matt's case, 140 HP vs. a circa 4,800 lb curb weight does not make it sprightly. So you face two choices: drive slower, or kick on the engine. An EV is far more sprightly, and you never kick the engine on. But then....you have to deal with charging. I think I'm going to go back to an EV for my daily, as it won't ever be road-tripped. At most I'll take it on some 2-4 hour each way trips where I only have to recharge maybe 2 times in the whole weekend trip. So entirely doable. Longer road trips, we'll take the PHEV. But I can charge at home so it makes sense. I'm an EV fan, but as has been pointed out countless times, they don't work well if you can't charge at home. And the batteries are bigger than needed because the charging infrastucture is way behind where it needs to be. If charging stations were as common as gas stations, most of us could get away with about 35 - 40 kWh batteries instead of the 70-80-90-100 kWh batteries in the 300 mile range EVs that are out today. Cool times. They will change rapidly in the next decade.
@Monkeyseemonkey79
@Monkeyseemonkey79 Жыл бұрын
Which make/model of PHEV does your wife have?
@joartstewey
@joartstewey Жыл бұрын
Also curious to know what she drives
@Jfromes1
@Jfromes1 Жыл бұрын
I was in Los Angeles for week and rented a Wranger 4XE plug in hybrid. The Jeep was brand new with only 8 miles on it when I picked it up, I plugged it in at my hotel every night and with 25 miles of electric range I only used about 5 gallons of gas the entire 6 day trip. Also, and this relates to your podcast, I rented from Fox at LAX and the the total price for those 6 days was 500 bucks! Not bad for a brand new 65k vehicle that used very little gas
@thricedrummer1
@thricedrummer1 Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who noticed the CBC mug?? Love from Canada, guys! Great video, we are a Volvo household, we have 2 V60 Polestars (2017 Rebel Blue and 2018 Bursting Blue). Keep up the great work!
@bradcomis1066
@bradcomis1066 Жыл бұрын
Saw that too!
@johngaudet6316
@johngaudet6316 Жыл бұрын
I live in NH. I've got a 2020V60 Cross country and love it. My next vehicle maybe a Volvo hybrid or future EV.
@eddiefara
@eddiefara Жыл бұрын
great video! do you remember how much did the recharge recharge (😂)on the 40 mile journey to the destination
@TheDanibus
@TheDanibus Жыл бұрын
We have a Volvo XC60 Plug in Polestar Engineered at my dealership. Ohlins suspension, Akebono brakes, gold seat belts etc. Kind of a blend of the two vehicles in this video.
@wbhandy
@wbhandy Жыл бұрын
Great video! Love this new format
@i976scirocco3
@i976scirocco3 Жыл бұрын
I also live in an old apartment building that can't support charging anything more then my DeWalt impact driver. I used to drive a Ford CMax plug in hybrid but traded it in for a '21 Honda CRV Hybrid. Great vehicle for commuting, it's not a plug in but I get 37mpg and the engine doesn't turn on very much on my short commute. It has an electric only mode and when the engine turns on you can charge the battery . I put gas in once every month , no plug needed.
@mattivancic3402
@mattivancic3402 Жыл бұрын
Enjoying the new format videos along with the older canyon drives etc. also enjoying the ratio getting one or two of these new style videos a month
@AndrewLane87
@AndrewLane87 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I like the style of it. It would be cool if you did a vlog style video once in a while because I found myself wanting to see more of that day. It was a well focused car video as is though. Great content as always!
@NoACSlater
@NoACSlater Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Plug-in hybrids accomplish most of the benefits of EVs for more people, now. It's unlikely that liquid fuel infrastructure is going anywhere (we're so good at building pipelines), so maybe non-gas plug-in hybrids are the ideal endgame.
@robertwalker1742
@robertwalker1742 Жыл бұрын
I’m from Uk, and have a XC60 b4 which is a two litre diesel with a battery to boost from 197 up to over 200, it is great, and get a easy 40+ mpg, this is one of the best videos I’ve seen well done boys, and, yes the XC60 is one of the best cars you can buy.
@Sscholly
@Sscholly Жыл бұрын
You are spot on with your analysis of hybrids. Can you edit and publish an abbreviated version of this? I love your channel but want to send this episode to some influential folks and it's too long to get their attention as it is (but I love it). Thanks much.
@diegohooker
@diegohooker Жыл бұрын
My next daily will definitely be a plug-in hybrid, it just makes so much sense (at this time)
@fluketennis
@fluketennis Жыл бұрын
I’m with you. I’ve been driving the XC90 recharge for a year, and only filled the tank once. Together with the Prius PRIME that we have and share one level 2 charger in our garage with no issue at all.
@MrKlawUK
@MrKlawUK Жыл бұрын
there might be a case for larger batteries cycling less for daily driving vs a PHEV that might be fully cycling 1-2 time daily. great video
@SabeloMemela
@SabeloMemela Жыл бұрын
Continue to do more of these with stories. They are my favorite👍
@jeduardoslb1
@jeduardoslb1 Жыл бұрын
18:25 Can someone explain what that caravan is doing, towing a car?
@TrustworthyFox37
@TrustworthyFox37 Жыл бұрын
First clip felt like a Red Bull racing promotional video lol I love it
@ryanwilson6036
@ryanwilson6036 Жыл бұрын
New videos have that OG Top Gear vibe, I dig.
@vasil7410
@vasil7410 Жыл бұрын
Seems odd to be lugging around a legacy ICE engine, including the extra maintenance it entails, just for the minority of times you need the extra range and also assuming you can't access public chargers with a straight EV car. There is certainly a place for hybrids, but I would think it's only for a small minority of use cases.
@forrestcarlson1742
@forrestcarlson1742 Жыл бұрын
I always like how you look at cars. Plug in and fully electric cars are both good options. I really think the BMWi3 was a great car powertrain. CCS and an onboard generator. I with more cars were setup like that. (I did own a 2014 volt and loved that car just wish it charged faster.)
@FrathosCan
@FrathosCan Жыл бұрын
Nice coffee mug with old CBC Logo...haven't seen that in awhile. 😃
@glsracer
@glsracer Жыл бұрын
I am a current Volvo owner (I have several actually) and I looked at the Polestar 2 last year. It seemed as if they were still having some teething issues and with the rumors of higher power output it just didn't make sense to jump in. I also agree that hybrids are the way to go. If done right, like this XC60, they have most of the performance with few of the downsides. The added weight does have an impact on performance. For instance an XC60 T6 AWD like mine needs a down pipe and an ECU tune to hit 60 in the low 4 second range and a 1/4 mile in low 13s. The extra weight of the battery and motors in the newer hybrid absorbed the extra 80 to 100 HP the system produced.
@ryufrank
@ryufrank Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Explains in simple and practical ways real facts! I live with a Plugin Hybrid (Toyota RAV4 Prime) for the past year or so, and I can confirm everything demonstrated in the video :) In my case, situation is even worse, since public charging stations are barely minimum and unreliable Nevertheless, fully electrified cars (in the form of BEV, FCEV or whatever we might come up next), is the future. We are just not there yet, in battery technology
@sahil_55
@sahil_55 Жыл бұрын
I've been sold on hybrids for a while too and completely agree with the take here. Btw, how much did the engine charge the battery by the time you arrived?
@TheBestWanted112
@TheBestWanted112 Жыл бұрын
I also like the idea of having cca 25 miles of range, which is enough for city comute and you can charge via the IC engine on the highway when its most efficient.
@shenmisheshou7002
@shenmisheshou7002 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Honda Clarity in 2018. I average about 45 miles on a charge (though I rarely actually use the whole capacity) and unless I am on a trip, I can go a year on a tank of gas. On a trip, I can get 42 to 46 mpg depending on speed and terrain and if I take slower roads, I can get 50 mpg. I agree that the plug in hybrid is a better solution and I intend to keep my Clarity for a decade, and maybe more. I am convinced that the plug in hybrid is the best kind of car to own.
@deancostello14
@deancostello14 Жыл бұрын
I think my next car will be a plug in. Most of the time I don't drive that far, but my mother lives 120 miles away, and my best friends live 300 miles away. Plug ins help me with those once a month long range trips but able to keep 90% of my driving full EV. Don't think it's true for a lot of people, most would be fine with a small EV (I live in the UK), but someone like me an EV with enough range is too expensive, and plug ins are much cheaper. Golf GTE or Skoda Octavia vRS plug ins are the way for me to go!
@johndiamantis1031
@johndiamantis1031 Жыл бұрын
This was great! Solidified my thought of PHEV vs EV.
@trifectaCA
@trifectaCA Жыл бұрын
How much battery did the xc60 gain from activating the charge setting?
@bimgonzaga
@bimgonzaga Жыл бұрын
Actually the Volt has a charging option. You just have to switch the drive mode to "Mountain", so it would charge and keep the battery up to ~50%.
@joartstewey
@joartstewey Жыл бұрын
💯
@antoinepageau8336
@antoinepageau8336 Жыл бұрын
I live with a Tesla model 3 and drive high mileage year round. Basically what takes 3 hours in an ICE or hybrid takes 15 minutes more one way, and about 20 minutes more for the return trip. I saved $8,000 in gas last year, and I stop to pee with an ICE vehicle anyway. There's no compromise IMO if you drive a Tesla.
@jtb9866
@jtb9866 Жыл бұрын
That California bill actually restricts PHEVs as well, only 20% of a manufacturer's sales can be PHEVs under the legislation. Given the numerous advantages of hybrids compared to EVs, why do you believe people and legislators are so opposed to adopting them?
@Bob_Smith19
@Bob_Smith19 Жыл бұрын
California is opposed to personal choice as a whole. Politicians do whatever they’re paid to do by lobbyists. Here’s hoping oil companies pull out entirely due to the legislation they just passed this week. Let them collapse.
@Andi-fz3ty
@Andi-fz3ty Жыл бұрын
@@Bob_Smith19 so you think oil companies don't spend more money on lobbying than whoever would benefit from more evs? : D
@kellinpatler
@kellinpatler Жыл бұрын
Strongly considering a V60 Hybrid Plug-In T8 R-Design eAWD as my next daily. Fits perfectly into my needs and lifestyle, and looks fantastic.
@mho0
@mho0 8 ай бұрын
I had 2020 V60 PE, which my wife is now using when I moved to Polestar 2 BST. Both are excellent cars.
@mikemiller4072
@mikemiller4072 Жыл бұрын
Really smart and informative review. As a Tesla and Rivian owner, I’ve come to the conclusion that EV only isn;t ready for prime time as well. Thanks
@jason5031
@jason5031 Жыл бұрын
I loved this video! More like this please. I traded my Stinger GT2 RWD for a 2021 VW ID.4. I liked the EV life(although slower), but damn I hated VW's software. After 14 months I traded it for a 22' M340i. I wanted a Polestar 2 but I mountain bike, and good gravy does a bike on the roof ruin range. I'd loose >20% range with my MTB on the roof. Maybe the XC60 is what I need... and a trailer hitch!
@aluisious
@aluisious Жыл бұрын
Why do you guys put bikes on the roof anyway? Looks like a pain in the ass.
@custommotor
@custommotor Жыл бұрын
@@aluisious Never understood that either. The rear mounts always seemed easier.
@jason5031
@jason5031 Жыл бұрын
@@aluisious 1. I already have roof mount racks. 2. Not every car has a trailer mount hitch option.
@jason5031
@jason5031 Жыл бұрын
@@custommotor Not every car has the option for a trailer hitch, or for a third party mount.
@xkc9689
@xkc9689 Жыл бұрын
Love this Video, especially Zack, his jokes and commentary finally shaping into a really cool independently source, first time I preferred listening to him. Bravo Zack
@godluckandgoodspeed
@godluckandgoodspeed Жыл бұрын
Format seems a little different than most of the stuff before, I dig it guys
@jordanm2584
@jordanm2584 Жыл бұрын
Off topic, but thanks, Matt. Ordered same coffee mug ☕
@bradcoram509
@bradcoram509 Жыл бұрын
Digging the classic 70's CBC coffee mug, Matt. There must be a story behind that(?)
@Kobayashi360
@Kobayashi360 Жыл бұрын
Really well illustrated thesis. PHEV is definitely the choice for this current era.
@joelanucha3929
@joelanucha3929 Жыл бұрын
The watch shot when Matt was putting the Volvo in charging mode tho
@rexseven93
@rexseven93 Жыл бұрын
7pm Christmas Day, I arrived into Minneapolis from Costa Rica. It was 5 degrees and my car was in a park and stay lot. Exactly where I left it with a full tank 7 days earlier. It was under a foot of snow and it had been a cold week. I wiped it off enough to get in and start it, then finished cleaning it off. I then drove up to the hotel to get the family and luggage. We visited the restroom and departed. 350 miles later, we arrived at home. We never stopped once. I had 100 miles plus range left. The car is 12 years old and has 275,000 miles on it. I don't think you can make that drive with any current EV on that cold day after a week in that lot.
@johngaudet6316
@johngaudet6316 Жыл бұрын
Polestar 2
@rexseven93
@rexseven93 Жыл бұрын
@@johngaudet6316 Good luck with that. On the best day, with a fresh charge, you'd be very lucky to make it. You'd need a strong tailwind. A week in a zero degree lot and a the same temperature on the drive, you'd be lucky to make it out of Minnesota, let alone to my garage.
@klee570
@klee570 Жыл бұрын
So how many miles did you add back into the system while driving?
@Hardcaslte
@Hardcaslte Жыл бұрын
It actually infuriates me a little bit that so many governments are trying to force EV on everyone, which as you mentioned isn't free in building the batteries or discarding the batteries. When we could have these perfect sense vehicles where most people would drive 80% of their miles on battery anyway, not need to rely on a charging infrastructure that doesn't exist currently, and so on. We really need to be pushing these PHEV all day and not EV.
@anthonymrskipt9252
@anthonymrskipt9252 Жыл бұрын
We have a XC60 Recharge and I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. It is a great car for everyday and is remarkably comfortable. Honestly, it really is about as good a car as is available right now for just driving every day - but it’s expensive. I think that’s an issue for BEVs and PHEVs. Still, I think that PHEVs are currently a better option than BEVs for most. That will change, but I’m not sure that we’re there yet.
@adamnagel7436
@adamnagel7436 Жыл бұрын
Average people wont be able to afford these vehicles anytime soon. Costs also arent coming down anytime soon either.
@chasz3776
@chasz3776 Жыл бұрын
@@adamnagel7436 A fully loaded Kia Sorrento PHEV is about the same price as my fully loaded Murano was 12 years ago.... Not sure where either of you are coming from.
@dwarf365
@dwarf365 Жыл бұрын
Did I miss it? How many miles did it recharge on the rest of the trip?
@davesutherland1864
@davesutherland1864 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone who understands that one EV battery can make many more PHEV. If you do the same math, you can make about 25 standard hybrids which typically reduce fuel consumption by 25%-30% compared to an equivalent ICE vehicle. Hybrid or PHEV are the best way to go in the short term (10-20 years).
@tedboudalis1232
@tedboudalis1232 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the video… and very much in agreement on the conclusion!
@FrankW1029
@FrankW1029 Жыл бұрын
the longer range in the new plug-in hybrids like the XC60 and the RAV4 prime and few others are really where the technology should be.
@eb110americana
@eb110americana Жыл бұрын
PHEVs may ultimately be a better solution for the entry market, and for long range and towing. However, it may turn out that converting a dedicated EV platform (such as GM's Ultium) into a PHEV via a decoupled range extender results in a better car than electrifying a typical ICE car and finding space for the extra batteries and hardware. The biggest downside to PHEV versus pure EV, is that you still have all the ICE maintenance to deal with: oil changes, transmission fluid, sparkplugs, wires, filters, etc. It will be interesting to see how things shake out. If nothing else, we'll have better batteries and lots more places to charge them by the time many of us are ready for an EV.
@evalonious
@evalonious Жыл бұрын
Great intro boys and great format. ❤
@gustavoflorio5383
@gustavoflorio5383 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing video, Matt and Zack!
@cgh55
@cgh55 Жыл бұрын
Really love the take on the benefits of a plug-in relative to an electric. You can do a lot less environmental and humanitarian damage, and avoid having to rely on the public charging network, while still doing 95% of your daily driving emissions-free.
@davidsteinhour5562
@davidsteinhour5562 Жыл бұрын
OG listener here, excited to hear Thaddeus's name. I would love to see more of him.
@Entity_BlackRed777
@Entity_BlackRed777 Жыл бұрын
So you DO still do videos!!!! Great!!!! Now I am also turning all notifications ON for your LATEST videos!!!! (Even though will be out of KZbin for a while due to work and stuff, but will return soon around this Summer to Fall!!!!) Good luck!!!!
@rogermartinez78
@rogermartinez78 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you a lot that's why I bought a Mini Cooper electric, the small battery works just fine for me.
@johngaudet6316
@johngaudet6316 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the awesome Bowers&Wilkins audio !!!
@D_Series22
@D_Series22 Жыл бұрын
Id daily a plug in hybrid. Awesome for short trips! Drove a Volvo x60 and it was kinda good!
@Sarcasticone1
@Sarcasticone1 Жыл бұрын
Ive always believed that the PHEV makes more sense than a BEV. We currently use a 2017 Volt as our daily driver and have averaged over 150 MPG. There's nothing fancy about it but its super efficient and fairly comfortable to drive. Wish they wouldn't have killed it off.
@IanHutchison
@IanHutchison Жыл бұрын
I always love seeing that Weiss watch on Zach's wrist!
Here's Why The Production Cybertruck is a Failure - TheSmokingTire
21:14
WHY DOES SHE HAVE A REWARD? #youtubecreatorawards
00:41
Levsob
Рет қаралды 32 МЛН
小路飞姐姐居然让路飞小路飞都消失了#海贼王  #路飞
00:47
路飞与唐舞桐
Рет қаралды 94 МЛН
La final estuvo difícil
00:34
Juan De Dios Pantoja
Рет қаралды 27 МЛН
g-squad assembles (skibidi toilet 74)
00:46
DaFuq!?Boom!
Рет қаралды 10 МЛН
2022 XC60 Recharge Extended Range First Drive
25:40
Auto Buyers Guide | Alex on Autos
Рет қаралды 117 М.
All About Plug-In Hybrid Electric Vehicles (PHEVs)
14:12
Mike the Car Geek
Рет қаралды 35 М.
Ford Mach-E 2 Year Long Term Ownership Update + Road Trip!
23:42
TheSmokingTire
Рет қаралды 323 М.
Toyota HYBRID maintenance cost is shocking!
8:53
Toyota World
Рет қаралды 1 МЛН
Chris Harris Drives The Polestar 1 - An Irresponsible Financial Decision?
14:21
Kia EV6 GT: Funnest EV You Can Buy For Under $100k? - TheSmokingTire
21:21
Разные автомобили против стены
0:32
Инспектор Кирпич
Рет қаралды 877 М.
Un poco de suerte la del sr perro 😮 - Rally Santafesino
0:10
Nanci Torres
Рет қаралды 25 МЛН
Tractor tyre button cutting machine #short #shorts
0:28
Crazy Works
Рет қаралды 22 МЛН
Погружения 🛥️ Болотоход Азимут 💪
0:36
Квадро Азимут
Рет қаралды 1,8 МЛН
Подбор живой Мазда 3 до 800.000р🔥 День 1
0:44
Kras-Подбор
Рет қаралды 564 М.
Китайцы сделали огромную машину Ауди!
0:29
ТРЕНДИ ШОРТС
Рет қаралды 7 МЛН