Why This Rad '80s Supercar Was Banned From Racing and Hated By The Media

[@Donut]

What car would you take a sledgehammer to?

[@Username_-fm4lj]

your mom

[@syah017]

probably a PT Cruiser

[@HalcyonHidden]

Datsun cause that shit never breaks

[@kushkiller7108]

Any hybrid or electric car

[@feltcutemightdelete7566]

Anything already broken with no hope for repairs cause it sounds fun

[@mywarrenmosler]

Many thanks for doing this! For the record, the monocoque is 12oz e glass and some s glass over a 5lb/cuft pvc foam core. The doors have some Kevlar as well as the mounting area for the seat belts. The front brakes are Chrysler, the rears are Fiero because they incorporated a parking brake, Suspension is inboard using rocker arms to minimize unsprung weight. I personally got to take the checker at the 24 hour race at Nelson Ledges before we were banned. We were also banned from Car and Driver's One Lap of America after winning it 3 times. The Mosler MT900 was banned from IMSA after winning in 2002, and the FIA banned it from La Mans and international races, while it did win many races nationally in British GT, Spanish GT, Dutch Supercar, and others.

[@Cooe.]

Can't believe nobody else has seen this yet... It's the man, the myth, the legend himself lol.

[@inflatablemicrowave8187]

You've made such an incredible car. I hope to one day own one, but the chances are rather slim... asking price is too high for it to be reasonable, sadly.

[@Username-jb2vs]

My grandpa collects the old Shelby k-cars. Trying to talk him into getting one of these for his collection. Even though it's not Shelby your name is just as worthy and it's the same engine and transaxle

[@chasingmidnight_us]

Donut Media needs to pin this

[@Perceivedshift]

What an amazing car Warren, maybe I'll see one in person one day! It really was ahead of its time, any idea with its 0-60 and 1/4 miles times were by chance?

[@roshanviscoro4136]

Noobs: Ford vs Ferrari Legends: consulier vs the organizations

[@ryanwild8614]

this

[@Turshin]

Yes this needs to be a movie

[@typshii06]

Scott Pilgrim needs to ride this tho.

[@MrPrajitura]

Joe Stacks that was probably down to the homologatjon rules in the days of yore

[@davidjiang3996]

Noobs: Ford vs Ferrari Legends: Kobe Bryant.

[@the_m34]

Ok Long story short, this car was so good that every company and media source hated it, and killed it, on purpose

[@totophi]

Kind of like the Tucker 48.

[@auguststormy3096]

The Canadian Avro Arrow

[@TenorCantusFirmus]

@@totophi Never try to actually challenge those yet in the business...

[@shadow6687]

It was also ugly as hell

[@the_m34]

@@shadow6687 also 😂

[@SteveP-vm1uc]

This should be built and sold as a KIT CAR.... Today, several motors and turbos would take this car to a new dimension.

[@alanmiller2250]

Yeah i would agree. It should be sold as an independent car or as a kit and refined over the years. When it reaches it's peak- better suspension and cooling- it's a legit car that gets 25 or 30 mpg.

[@RoonMian]

The Ultima GTR is a kit car a bit like this. Thing is though, the most laborious part of making this car is the monocoque. You don't just make that in your garage just like that. And as a manufacturer, once you've gone through the trouble of producing the monocoque, you can just make the rest of the car yourself as well.

[@miskatonic6210]

Today nobody would be allowed to drive this, because it's unsafe af.

[@ahsoka_polo]

I would just drive it just to be driving it. It loots sooo nice

[@RoonMian]

@@miskatonic6210 Oh? How so? I don't see how that car is less safe than other cars from its time period and other niche DIY sports cars like for example the dozens of different Lotus Super Seven replicas you can get all over the world.

[@carjac820]

Donut Media’s Standard: Measurement of Power: Buffhorses Measurement of Time: Post Malone Measurement of Weight: Nolan Standard Life Comparison: James’ Dad

[@moisesezequielgutierrez]

Measurement of Torque: Twerks ?

[@ironpizza5150]

Hers pers

[@leonardusrakapradayan2253]

Don’t forget the herspers

[@dominatorandwhocaresanyway9617]

Americans trying to use anything other than metric system

[@DrkStmpunkr]

Debute= Dibuut

[@ZIA9421]

Conclusion : people were just jealous about this car

[@cyberspino6277]

Yeah

[@ZACHANDJACKSZACHSMAFIA]

Not really, its a bad design of a car and it broke easy after a while, cost alot to replace broken parts, more like a investment more than a car..

[@colerend4431]

Like every car from that time?

[@fbkensarhd5279]

@@ZACHANDJACKSZACHSMAFIA That's what race cars and track cars were back in 80s (except OG NSX)

[@ryanwild8614]

@@ZACHANDJACKSZACHSMAFIA The only thing that broke on this car this year was a $28 charge pipe stocked by napa and a leaking slave cylinder for $68. If I blow up the engine a built long block is $3500

[@RedLP5000S]

It's amazing the lengths that corporations will go to kill off competition.

[@dParakeet]

Then make shitty cars lmao

[@irishgotee]

C.orporations U.nder N.ational T.yranny Fraud bless America, for in fraud we trust.

[@tagheuerwoods6241]

Its absolutely cancerous

[@truth-12345.]

That's what they tried towards Tesla, but they failed.

[@voidinheritant]

@@truth-12345. Tesla is fucking cringe tho lol

[@brpadington]

Mosler was a genius. The fact that he used Dodge Daytona parts just added salt to the wound. LOL

[@MrSirGiuseppe]

The daytona god banned from Nascar for being too good so it makes sense lol

[@brpadington]

@@MrSirGiuseppe yeah that's true..lol

[@wayne9518]

@@MrSirGiuseppe not that Daytona. The 4 cylinder K car Daytona

[@PPedroFernandes]

Imagine being so fast you get outright banned from racing. That's just scummy from the racing league...

[@Magnetron33]

FEAR

[@DrkStmpunkr]

And got taken down by organizations...

[@eightv1982]

400% the chassis rigidity of c4, 40% lighter, 30% less frontal area, inboard adjustable suspension, aero pkg baked in from day 1 not slapped on top, 65% weight bias on the drive wheels, quaife lsd, all of that in a hand built short run car. these moslers were never not getting nerfed or banned. the supercar series rules allowed engine mods and t2/t3 engines respond better to mods than most engines do. levitas was getting a lot more than 200hp out of these cars. less power than the modded turbo 911's and the modded ohc zr1's but enough to beat them.

[@lawrenceatkinson5884]

Mini was banned.

[@punk303]

Ummmmm... The Superbird... and pretty much Plymouth in general.

[@christianj252]

Note to self: never trust Car and Driver ever again since they’re willing to take advantage of people and smear the competition so badly.

[@lennym1273]

Agree...

[@totoro6215]

I mean - that's not something new. The established racing teams/manufacturers were always really against having new competitors or revolutionary cars/bikes in their races - as seen with the ZDS Moto Guzzi or even the Jaguar XJ13. Even nowadays they can be really petty if the feel like they get put on the spot by better cars or even just better drivers - vinwiki here on yt has a story about a student race car project where they had a lot of adversity at a race, just because somebody who knew the organizer was hurt in his pride...

[@williamkillingsworth2619]

Magazines are purely marketing tools

[@democratsaretheDEVIL]

Never did.

[@deborahchesser7375]

william killingsworth absolutely true, that’s all they are.

[@matmoome]

The Media really went "screw the Tucker and Consulier" and then said "hmmm Dale? now THAT'S a car I can get behind."

[@Turshin]

Exactly....DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE

[@cameronkuehn2077]

people really be stupid if they just learned from it i think we could be more advanced in cars today

[@thatdeliveryguy8975]

Sounds like Britain's aircraft industry 😐😕

[@largotokyo6286]

Glad someone knows about the tuckers... THOSE cars were way ahead of their time. popout windshield, "fuel injected" motor, disc brakes, turning center headlight, all in 1948.. Too many cool little features to name, too bad they had their share of bad press and ran into every little problem that they could. Its too bad the big three love being lazy so much they'd just pay to have any threat shut down.. The US car market honestly disgusts me when i think about it too much lol

[@brianhaygood183]

Thanks for mentioning the Dale. I had to look that up. Hilarious.

[@vinay2004p]

Just imagine making such a bomb of a car that the whole world is coming together to stop you out of sheer jealousy

[@benjaminaj1231]

The imagine how Trump feels

[@kaspervletter290]

@@benjaminaj1231 why did you have to make this political

[@chrisblandford9260]

Preston Tucker ended up the same way.

[@DubstepBehr]

Can you imagine just how much more exciting the auto industry could have been if people weren't so butt hurt about competition from small companies. This thing is epic!

[@cemoguz2786]

world would be better if people with power does not fuck with people and let them be succsesful.

[@shubhranshjamwal]

5:54 No, Mosler did not go Elon on the consulier Elon went Mosler on the CyberTruck *TAKE THAT CONSPIRACY THEORISTS*

[@jrholeman]

Boom

[@shubhranshjamwal]

@jrholeman *BOOM BOOM*

[@thehomiejw6714]

@@shubhranshjamwal T R I P L E *B O O M*

[@flacjacket]

Except when Mosler did it it worked lol

[@gang-yc4je]

The molser land shard gives me a hard on.

[@MrPlanes63]

The last time I was this early Moe Powa Babeh was just some dude.

[@PacMacDo]

ahhah LMAO

[@alexmartineau1060]

This is like being to good at a game, then being banned from it because they think you are cheating.

[@jamesidk_9081]

but they know you aren't cheating while doing it, they just know they cannot beat you.

[@potto1488]

This has happened to me, but i wasnt even good at the game. The game? Modern warfares multiplayer.

[@louyork8379]

Or like working your ass off your whole life to get good at a sport just to have a middle aged man put a bow in his hair and just blow ya out the water with his undeniable physical advantage. Get all pretty for the dance just to get sent back home

[@ronlanter6906]

They do that in Vegas all the time. When the player starts beating the house, they are "quietly' walked out.

[@toyotasupraboi2142]

This painfully reminds me that cars I've never heard of exist

[@nolongerusing7430]

Too true

[@misterbuklau4053]

GM EV1

[@runnerthreefour]

I can't like it cuz its at 69. Edit: wat tha freak???? Right after I sent this, it went to 73!!! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) lol

[@aperturemichelle]

And a lot of those cars were real game changers that where just like this one snuffed out.

[@destroyerkael9706]

U have the same image as me

[@myMotoring]

So this is basically NSX before the NSX. RMR, cheap, reliable, good handler, & not overly powerful supercar.

[@justat1149]

Bananas Explain Then the guy who built it took it to the next level and built all the other Mosler cars, like the Landshark and the MT600S

[@ZACHANDJACKSZACHSMAFIA]

Enjoy a car that breaks alot and needs serious repairs..

[@tilburg8683]

@@ZACHANDJACKSZACHSMAFIA I'm not sure about it but going by your words it's not reliable at all so maybe he can take that off but I dunno you really don't seem to like the car. And I'm to lazy to Google anything about it since I don't care a lot about it. Although I'd definitely take a NSX over this. Regardless of the reliability or la l their of which may or may not be true, the old NSX cars look really nice.

[@chilael6892]

@@tilburg8683 "Idk man but I'll believe in your words without any proof and btw i'm to lazy to google it so yeah your right" Not only you sound like a typical zoomer, you think like one.

[@ryanwild8614]

The NSX weighed 3000 lbs and had 270hp, the Consulier weighed 1850-2100lbs with 200-220hp stock but mopar sold a power upgrade to around 300 with bigger turbo, injectors and calibration the super 60 kit.. Its faster to 60 by a half second as well at 4.9 and 4.2 for the later turbo 3 engine. Yup extremely cheap to maintain and reliable I have only broken a $28 charge pipe and a leaking slave cylinder this year both stocked by napa. If I blew up the engine a forged 500hp capable rebuilt longblock is $3500 and a transmission rebuild is $1200 just like an 80's Shelby turbo dodge.

[@jdj8168]

Turns out this is one of the best race cars ever made

[@DVMightyMouse]

That shows how biased and deceiving media can be. That could've been an awesome car if it would've had the opportunity to evolve. I thought it was an F40 when I first saw the thumbnail.

[@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT]

VGarcia86 I thought the same thing!!

[@johnm3907]

Did you not have your glasses on?

[@ZACHANDJACKSZACHSMAFIA]

Ever had to replace the cars parts or get it fixed!? Then dont go with some guy who hasnt a worry towards paying instead of keeping a car, rent it's cheaper!!

[@computertesting6110]

@@johnm3907 dude it looks similar to the f40

[@MoStacheMoCash]

@@johnm3907 In a very quick scroll, it does look like an F40.

[@Euonox]

0:11 "It was like one of the babushka dolls" Babushka is grandma in Russian. The word you're looking for is Matryoshka. lol

[@osckirk]

Some people call them Babushka dolls. I've heard both used and although Matryoshka is correct, you generally understand what they're saying.

[@gustavozemann8005]

Tchernoi oh boy, here comes the doll specialist....

[@maxant4285]

Ну тупые! (с)

[@Gabrong]

@@osckirk just like some people say the Earth is flat. Telling something wrong many times by many people doesn't make it correct.

[@Neishy4AGTE]

Well, whether wrong or right, I've only ever heard of them being called babushka dolls.

[@gp8666]

That car is so unique and cool to me Imagine it with a high revving old F1 type engine and thicker wheels... That thing would be flying through straights and corners at crazy speeds

[@JackFN_VR64]

Its hideous.

[@ilievsaso]

Yeah man!

[@bigb2610]

What about a early 90's WRC engine from those Group A machines, that would be sick

[@gp8666]

@@bigb2610 true

[@bobbygraham7988]

Brendan Kelly Lancia Integrale?? Say no more. Let’s ante this up a bit - any Group B engine. This thing would be a god.

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

It looks like something you'd make in Automation in like... An hour.

[@ryroxfr8427]

Omg so true I was thinking that

[@dosdahrk4504]

And yet it smoked everyone

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

@@dosdahrk4504 Hey, you don't gotta look pretty to go fast.

[@dosdahrk4504]

@@GoredonTheDestroyer damn straight ..u look good going fast aha

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

@@dosdahrk4504 Beauty alone never won a race.

[@jasonmartinez7230]

holy shit, I literally just saw one of these at Daytona just sitting in the infield during the rolex 24hrs

[@savagetuner2404]

jason Martinez looks like the c8 is ready to rumble

[@willjam465]

I live in Oviedo and see one around here and UCF area of Orlando from time to time. It is white and red. Was that the one you saw?

[@savagetuner2404]

willjam465 I thought they were only yellow and silver?

[@willjam465]

SAVAGE TUNER I am referring to the Consulier being profiled in this video, which I believe Jason Martinez is talking about seeing in the infield at the Rolex 24 this past weekend.

[@savagetuner2404]

willjam465 ohhhh, wait WHAT? You saw one of THESE there?? Wow. That's a once in a lifetime event.

[@Thomas.R]

Wait wtf, I saw this car at Cars and Coffee on Saturday and I had NO idea what it was

[@Matthew-oj2mq]

Thomas Rodrigue Was that in Florida?

[@Thomas.R]

@@Matthew-oj2mq Nah, it was in San Diego. Donut films in LA, so it could even be the same car

[@brickscollective8799]

@@Thomas.R the one in rancho santa fe?

[@Thomas.R]

@@brickscollective8799 yeah

[@kubbogaming]

Man I love when you do an episode on a car I’ve never heard before and by the end I’m like "yep, i want this."

[@koolaid117]

I got to ride in one of the cars that raced at Nelson Ledges in the early 90's. Awesome car!

[@El_Restaurador]

Looks like a car some mid-aged man made on his backyard... *Wait a minute...*

[@wanderingbufoon]

El Zuga he was 36. If thats middle age then shit, everyone was ancient by the time they reach 70 since they ought to have been dead by then.

[@leoaraujo8590]

@@wanderingbufoon hey dude, how much is 35 + 35?

[@chilael6892]

@@leoaraujo8590 53.

[@leoaraujo8590]

​@@chilael6892 did you know that at 53 years old, you lived 67% of the human life expectancy?

[@Dutchw1978ing]

That is why it is awesome...take you homebuild lookalike to the tracks and beat covervettes and other exotics..

[@MrSGL21]

i have ridden in one of these. i can tell you EXACTLY how they got banned from racing. this cars ability to hug a corner and brake is nothing like i've ever experienced before and after and that includes riding superbikes. we were going 150 mph south on I-75 and were approaching slower 70 mph traffic. the owner waited till we nearly ran right into the back of another car to apply the brakes. its was the like the enterprise dropping out of warp we went from 150 to 70 in about 3 fucking seconds. i got thrown forward into in the racing harness. it was in sane. we went up an entrance ramp so fucking fast the Gs sucked my head in one direction and i couldn't move it till we exited the turn. holy fuck. it was like riding a roller coaster but in pretty much just one plane.

[@khrisg.3804]

Opening the video: Me: Who da fook is that guy?!

[@vip.brigade]

Yeeeeppp

[@bbggakkba]

He’s actually pretty okay though I thought. Not the explosive fun but still a good story teller

[@E36ASAP]

Only 1 guy for the job! Bring him back

[@bluuue_dream2569]

ongggg lmfao

[@perdomwx]

One of the ogs

[@apathtrampledbydeer8446]

I'm in love, seriously! What is this? It is a crime that they were bullied out of production.

[@chuchfever]

We really know why Moesler failed No "POP- UP HEADLIGHTS!!!!"

[@sam-ro1ob]

Don't you mean pop up up n down headlights lol

[@hxtchybk1]

@@sam-ro1ob 𝙥𝙤𝙥 𝙣 𝙪𝙥

[@brianhaygood183]

@@sam-ro1ob Anyone who lived through the 80's and 90's knows they popped up, and only sometimes actually made it down.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

Dealer: This car haves an engine hours gauge! Me: SOLD!

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Haha I put one in for kicks on a rebuild I did years ago. Surprising how quick they pile on.

[@gabrielporcellato1229]

Basically a gauge on a forklift lol

[@julemandenudengaver4580]

@@MrTheHillfolk try put that on a brand new taxi... Danm..

[@VerockFTW]

@@gabrielporcellato1229 a forklift too? We use engine hours to keep track of marine engines aswell

[@gabrielporcellato1229]

@@VerockFTW the more you know

[@naterogers2317]

The way he said “frickin” made my teeth sensitive.

[@iforc]

Nate Rogers I was thinking the same thing.

[@bogfinken]

Have a drink everytime he says frickin, and you'll forget..

[@LEEGOOVER9901]

Which minute

[@TheSethxy]

Such an awesome piece of racing history. I can't believe they banned it. Absolutly shameful.

[@meerak1381]

5:08 oh that transition 😂😂

[@chooseymomschoose]

Yes, somebody please mercifully remove that editor.

[@X11CHASE]

It was actually hilarious

[@cyfe]

whoever edits this i love you

[@Donut]

I love you too -Max

[@dudeinoakland]

I have to disagree. That transition at 5:08 ?? And the face under the hood that widens out? WTH?

[@oneaboveall1751]

@@dudeinoakland give this new guy a break he'll improve...

[@lorddragoono]

But 8:56

[@calebf612]

@@dudeinoakland cry me a river

[@sethk.3462]

Someone had one chillin at the Daytona 24 hours this year and I'm glad I know what it was now lol

[@repetitivemotion]

The car is visually stunning in appearance in an organic way. The engine choice is way ahead of it’s time. Mosley indeed took a page out of Colin Chapman’s book to build this.

[@TheBritishPatriot]

So basically the entire car establishment fought against this car, sounds familiar?

[@trulsvian]

Sounds like a certain british kit car.

[@leependragon9400]

Tesla

[@poptartmcjelly7054]

sounds like a certain bulldozer

[@sepg5084]

yup. they can't compete against it so they ban it. similar to the mazda that won Le Mans. C&D even did a lopsided test against that corvette just to win.

[@rmiah]

Sep G ???? the Mazda was never competitive, even in Japanese series. They were even allowed to run at a lower weight in FISA events to give them an advantage and it was still uncompetitive. It only won a freak show of a Le Mans, similar to when Mclaren won, and when an LMP2 almost won. The regulation change was to simplify the formula and make Group C engines similar to the existing F1 formula.

[@Danfunnyman1234]

Can we just take a moment to appreciate how consistently trash Car and Driver is

[@kirkjohnson9353]

I will never buy another issue after hearing about what they did to this guy and his car. Sickening

[@gorka7509]

That is the most disgusting car I've ever looked at. I'll take two of them

[@ExpWars]

I like how it looks

[@jeremyjhonson-0277]

Not gonna lie, you had me on the first half lmao

[@gorka7509]

@@ExpWars me too, it's so ugly it underflowed and became infinitely beautiful

[@JadeyFreakinM]

supra j29 is literally ugly for the damn non-ability to drift.

[@r.t.1942]

😂😂😂

[@bbq_steak5632]

Why though. It looks cool. Like a mix between a an 80s Ferrari GTO and a Lamborghini Countach

[@magnusbeast9194]

I don't see the countach if you have seen one irl you would know

[@BarmyBrummie1]

I’m seeing Porsche

[@CEOkiller]

I’m seeing 70’s kit car and reliant robin

[@PaganiGaming]

Day 67 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad

[@derrickstorm6976]

Little too on the nose...

[@neednos8455]

We are 2 days away from greatness

[@PacMacDo]

meow

[@bogar30]

This is an old meme

[@El_Restaurador]

He died from a heart attack.

[@Madude62]

And I thought the Mazda 787B getting banned from Le Mans was harsh, this takes it up to a whole new level Edit: holy mackerel what a thread I have created :v

[@cabezadetacho1264]

*787B

[@quintessenceSL]

Audi being banned from the Trans-Am series. Lotus being banned from F1. Modern racing has mostly been about established players protecting their hegemony. I see ground effects are finally being allowed in F1 again, only after nearly 40 years!

[@EmperorXaozx]

@@quintessenceSL Don't forget the 4 aerocars in NASCAR before 1970.

[@tilburg8683]

To bad innovation isn't allowed.

[@sannyfolkesson2226]

sadly the car industry, as they are often not keen on a new player dominating by just make a better machine, as then the others are forced to innovate to and they cant have that.

[@Mikey-xz4vn]

Damn even back in the day Car and Driver was shilling hard for GM

[@ChristopherGaul]

What? They've had a hate- on for GM as long as I can remember. BMW on the other hand is their fappening.

[@cookiemonster276]

Everything's a conspiracy theory, right?

[@ChristopherGaul]

@@cookiemonster276 yeah. The idea of media bias is completely unheard of. 🙄

[@slightlywarmpizza9101]

The more you talk about this car, the more I want one. It sounds un-killable. I hate that it got such an unfair treatment.

[@kentremendous5112]

The GTP seems like one of the best super cars that’s been made in a while.

[@Tiberiumfreek]

Hands down, I would have bought it when it was hot. And I'd still buy it today if it was currently made. What a machine!

[@jareknowak8712]

Buy used one, the worst You can find. Restore it. Or resto-mod it.

[@Tiberiumfreek]

@@jareknowak8712 sadly where I'm at, I highly doubt I'll even find a bolt from them. :(

[@lesliebarker5657]

What a great car. It’s so sad that jealousy can kill great things

[@poplaurentiu4148]

Cool car, interesting story sad ending.. very good at least it remained in existence for all people that like cars to knew such car exist and the story behind it..

[@jamesgerken5511]

its more greed than anything

[@RoonMian]

This is a relatively benign example of automotive visionaries being fucked over by their big competition. I mean, in German car history alone we have Hans Glas, Carl Borgward and August Horch, who all made beautiful cars, to just name a few, though Horch managed to come back after being fucked over (you know him by the latinisation of his name: Audi). In the US you also have people like Preston Tucker who even got his own biopic and was played by Jeff Bridges, IIRC.,

[@Open6a-fx4qf]

It means the world not deserve such great car

[@jasonwaltman3566]

That engine man, I've had quite a few cars with that engine over the years. It did have the performance but "bullet proof" ... That's a stretch of epic proportions.

[@kenik2023]

Oh please...I fckd the hell out of that block, screwd the crank and literally put the 2.2 to hell, I swear I could've shot that thing with a S&W 500 and it still would have run. That thing dynoed in at 400 frggn hp with 25lbs of boost. I don't know what you had but it wasn't that block pal.

[@erikrhafer6644]

It had and has a rock solid reputation, so you don't have any idea what your talking about.

[@sdgtp99]

"Oh bloody hell I couldn'a hit anything more expensive could I?" Richard Hammond, Top Gear Series 10 eps 9. When he hit that Mosler.

[@Isaackariuki775]

I believe it's the 24hrs of Britcar endurance you're referencing?

[@andrewratiu5496]

i thought the exact same thing when i heard Mosler lol

[@bicyclist2]

I remember that episode. I was thinking the same thing.

[@tonymuller7181]

NOW IS THE MOMENT THESE THINGS SKYROCKET IN PRICE AND I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO AFFORD ONE O THESE

[@cxx23]

Well there are 80 or so of them so I'd say it skyrocketed well before this video.

[@flowride68]

@@cxx23 I looked at these about 81-20 years ago and could have picked one up for about $20k. I passed. That...was a mistake.

[@kameroncuk6557]

I remember when this car came out, and that drivetrain was super awesome at that time. The Dodge Omni GLH was a fast little shit, albeit it was an omni but it was damn fast. And to those who say it sounds like a tractor, thats just the exhaust on that specific car, looks like a supertrapp muffler on the Consulier. Most people reading the comments here would have a smile ear to ear driving the Consulier. Also, Mopar at that time had go fast parts that you could buy directly from any mopar dealer......turbos, waste gates, ecm, intakes etc etc

[@BigWheel.]

The 80s was certainly one of chryslers high points in terms of tuning and likability it would appear.

[@Snake-ms7sj]

The stock version of the turbo II that was in the Omni GLH-S put out 176 hp. Guessing the Consulier has different heads or intake to up power to 200 hp? Then with the turbo III, 4 valves per cylinder were added bumping power up to 224 hp. The Omni GLH-S did 0-60 mph in 6.5 secs with a top speed of 130 mph. A real sleeper was the Dodge Spirit R/T with the turbo III motor. 0-60 mph in 5.8 secs with a top speed of 141 mph. Probably the fastest in terms of top speed was the Daytona R/T with the turbo III motor. Better aerodynamics than the Spirit, I think it was a little slower 0-60 mph in something like 6.2 secs, but top speed was 149 mph. I had a 1986 Dodge Omni GLH I bought new. I was in the Army stationed in Germany at the time so I was able to get it shipped over there right from the factory. Had the Catalytic converter removed (it was wrapped in plastic lying in the trunk) because Germany was still using leaded gas at the time. It was the non-turbo 2.2L with 110 hp. 0-60 mph in 8.5 secs with a top speed of 110 mph which I did on the Autobahn. 1986 was also the 1st year when the 3rd brake light was introduced. The Omni GLH was also one of the 1st American production cars to use low profile 50 series tires. GLH's also came ONLY with a 5 speed manual.

[@schwenk929]

I was introduced to this car when it started in the 80s crime drama "Hardcastle and McCormick" . I think one was an ex con racecar driver and the other was a no nonsense judge. The judge gave the racecar driver a second chance and employed him to help solve crimes with spirited driving. Even the theme song was an homage to the car opening with 'Drive ! Push it to the floor 'til the engine screams . Drive ! Drivin' like the demon that drives your dreams" . Mercifully that is all I remember though there could have been a verse about "Drive ! You and a criminal get into a big ass bloody tift . Drive! Watch out for snap oversteer when you lift".

[@johnmcmullen456]

Pretty sure the Hardcastle one was just a kit car with a V8 Chevy, or at least soundtrack was a V8.

[@kaidokiller]

I remember when I was 10 I saw a one-off Mosler Raptor a car show. That was my dream car at the time

[@air-headedaviator1805]

I like this thing! It reminds me of a Lotus Esige, light competently powered little car. Also I know it was in the 80’s but that stunt from Car and Driver kinda pisses me off.

[@ryanwild8614]

Except in an exige you are rubbing elbows with your passenger, this car is 20% larger exterior and at least 30% larger interior at the same weight with carpets, leather everything, car phone, ac, cruise control.

[@facepillownap]

Shoutout to whoever put the Homestar Runner “Great Jorb” in the edit.

[@collinthomas6288]

What is the timecode for that part?

[@1psdman]

LOL!!!! 😂🤣

[@smilesaredaggers3088]

glad I'm not alone in knowing where its from! BTW they need a nice lightswitch rave here

[@TeamVengeanceIE]

William Zuleger where?

[@edwardsadler6003]

This car reminds me of a Johnny cash song, one piece at a time, I’m picturing Johnny singing about this 280z, z28,Fiero, GT bradly, looking car, I think his was a Cadillac , put together with a lot of stolen parts.

[@mdog11400]

Man that’s just a shame :(( screw car and driver 😂

[@404fox9]

"I’m sure C&D would of been a good sport" oh sure they would after cheating him out of 25K

[@isaakjones7137]

@Mert M but it doesn't matter if the car had a close time to the Corvette. Car and driver unfairly did it without making both cars even by giving both new tires,new brakes, maintenance, etc; to make sure that the cars are close as possible. But what I can recall from this video is that consulier didn't really state any rules or regulations for the challenge, which came out in his downfall. However, car and driver should have been more professional about it instead writing negative reviews just to spite consulier. They should have been writing and giving constructive feedback and criticism about the car and it's performance. Not write negative reviews because you feel some type of way.

[@garrettburrows442]

think i want to write a letter to cd, grudge match

[@TexMex421]

@Mert M This video is a guy from "Donut" reading a wikipedia page almost word for word. What were the real rules? We don't know. Even then, I have never heard of a race where you get to choose the other guys car and drive it. Even if Warren Mosler was vague about the rules it's pretty unreasonable to think you can drive the other car, and then just claim you beat it with no proof. Mosler could have just repeated the same test with the same cars at the same track, doing some maintenance on the "driving school" car before.

[@sepg5084]

C&D is the tabloid trash of car media anyway

[@matthewjswider]

I love how they’re slowly sprinkling in these episodes they shot while James was out of commission. Get well again James.

[@ryanwild8614]

James was there doing the autozam same day. Doing two episodes a day is pretty exhausting for one presenter.

[@thatonenigeriansformula]

James isn't a cop car lol

[@joealex65]

That thing looks like someone put some of the best 80/90's supercars in a blender and this was born!

[@rars0n]

I absolutely love this car. Always have. I think the styling looks awesome, it's got some old-school charm but it's so much different than most other cars, and yet still has some cool lines to it. The interior is absolutely fine, it's functional and has everything you'd need (I'd probably ditch the car phone, although it sure is a nice piece of nostalgia and I'm surprised they included that on the car). It wouldn't be too hard to hotrod that 2.2L engine a bit more, either. Although a car like this has a special charm in remaining stock. I'd probably limit myself to reliability mods.

[@shadybeatsCarbon]

That reminds me of the Chapparal 2J story. Btw how about start a petition to bring this car back into market? I'd buy one.

[@_zigzak]

6:05 “It doesn’t have those ugly bumper extendy things” Cuts to rear extendy thing*.

[@kirkc9643]

It's got plenty enough ugly going on without adding ugly extendy things

[@gyneve]

He meant the black rubber ones.

[@bicyclist2]

I remember when these were new in the 80's. I remember reading the articles in car magazines. Unfortunately I've never seen one in person. Thanks.

[@CockatooDude]

How much did they cost back in the day?

[@chriswatson7488]

You missed the fact that the updated car, the Mosler Intruder, had a 5.7 V8 LT1 engine. And the Mosler Raptor had a 6.3 small block V8 which gave the car 446bhp and a 3.9 second 0-60 time.

[@PotatoesGottaPotate]

Doug wouldve killed to review this

[@ryanwild8614]

he had his chance

[@cherrypepsi2815]

You speak as if he's dead lmao

[@manicabawse2867]

Too bad he only reviews cars that are sponsored or borrowed

[@careyguillaume5022]

I'd rather watch Doug than this dude.

[@CherrySquishee]

Doug who?

[@ethanschwartz1839]

I’m excited to see a new host on Donut, but he feels really stiff. I hope he gets more loose and comfortable on camera!

[@JohnKaufmann]

Sure he will. Great job for his first time

[@spacelube5845]

It's not his first time, but it's his first time speaking English and having a creepy moustache.

[@chadbones7676]

Yeah not gonna lie bumper to bumper was half the cars half the dude

[@JackFN_VR64]

Why are you excited to see a new host?

[@Gaphalor]

Lightweight, nimble, fast, loud and from the 80s. Yea i want this car.

[@Anatolia909tv]

THIS EPISODE IS ONE OF THE COOLEST ON DONUTS!!! love you all! good one Feli!

[@matheuswolters3448]

Media: the gtp is a shit car also media: here's why the prius is a great car

[@stevenplaskett7728]

A Prius with 400k on it is still worth 5,000 bucks so...... I cant even afford a 10yr old Prius.

[@jameshavenga4998]

This is a great car, but so is the Prius, just for completely different reasons. If you're not a car person and just want a reliable, comfy, affordable car that's good on gas, the Prius is fantastic

[@yanuchiuchihaanimegamesand3907]

@@jameshavenga4998 That's the only thing the Prius is good at, Fuel Millage. It's not especially affordable, comfy nor especially reliable. The main reason why it even got so many sales are Taxi companies, those bastards love it.

[@dr2377]

@@yanuchiuchihaanimegamesand3907 for good reason. They used corollas before that, so it has to be a great car, maintenance as well

[@Kj16V]

I swear your moustache got more "Tom Selleck" when you got into the car.

[@pg1171]

LMAO! Had to go back and re-watch that part! TRUE!

[@MacM52E30]

He should have to do a push up for every time he said "freaking"🤣

[@travisuysaloglu9695]

Can't say "fucking" which is more suitable

[@brianjacobs967]

one of the amazing things about these cars that does not really get talked about is how easy the car is to drive, not just physically easy, but how compliant the car is over bumps, the car does not rattle your teeth when you drive, it just sorts of swallows up the bumps. there is a bit of an overhang and scrapping the front bumper on a steep driveway is possible, but not as bad as many others

[@truculentphillips8788]

Road & Track is still dumping on its looks as of 2018. And to be honest, I'm personally not a fan of the look. But look at Mosler's subsequent designs and improvements. Why this man's name isn't mainstream is beyond me. He built it without any computer designs. Let me see any current day engineer do the same thing.

[@BulletBeez]

Hey donut! Will science garage make a return? Regardless I’m excited to see what your guys have in store!

[@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo]

Nah that series is done since Bart had a kid

[@kemchi8730]

Bart had a kid but James had fired him. So science garage is done. Unless... they will have a new show on how to tune the car correctly with aaron. Hmm thats a good idea for a show

[@BulletBeez]

Felipe Solis well I knew he had a kid, but James mentioned it coming back “soon”

[@MrPrajitura]

Unlogical Alex why did James fire him?

[@BulletBeez]

Unlogical Alex was it ever explain why he was fired?

[@DEMONITION1723]

Thanks. Now I'm pissed. "Oh a challenge?" *Gives self unfair advantage* "Bruh, rigged. Play fair" "Nah gfys" "Fine. Imma race professionally" *Dominates* "You're banned for being too good. And we gonna make the car out as sht" Now. I am pissed. Car looks good to. I'd want it.

[@ZACHANDJACKSZACHSMAFIA]

The car costs more in repairs then child support!!

[@dannyshroyer5770]

The actual shape of this vehicle is very nice, like this is some actual design right here

[@MortillaroCustoms]

I remember seeing these in the classified section of car mags for like $5g's wish I would have bought one.

[@dfinma]

11:24 Never rev a turbo engine before shutting it off. You want the turbo to wind down before you cut off the oil supply.

[@Sylvroom]

Doug F was looking for this! He thought it was a rotary lol

[@dannyruble5488]

Doug F l had to read that three times .... l think you meant just before turning it off... impossible to rev it after shutting an engine off. Not trying to be a doc, but you confused the crap out of me.

[@deezy9595]

He didn't actually rev it hard enough for the turbo to spool up much, so it should be safe.

[@chazztrovato3370]

Okay mom

[@larrybrown9279]

the engine has to be hot for that to even be a concern and I believe it was cold in the video

[@SamFBM]

engine hours , laughs in crown vic

[@marvi1515]

Lol

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

We have a 2006 GMC yukon that show's engine hours. Best way to know when to change the oil.

[@lajarus8849]

“Emergency, room doctor” Like, “get me 120CCs of Behr Oyster-shell white semi-gloss stat! This room isn’t going to die on my watch!”

[@alucardleashed]

5:08 That transition, OMG LMAO

[@K00ZZii]

You guys need to release the sounds track to this video!! Love the Synthwave vibes!

[@AminVlogs1]

If I got a pound for every time you said frickin I’d be able to buy all 83 of these cars

[@iexplainjokestomakethemles1560]

yes kinda pissed me off.

[@rickyb6086]

The lines and contours of this car are incredibly gorgeous. It reminds me of the old school Porsche Le Mans designs. Awesome video, I've never heard of this before.

[@bretthoule8343]

YES OMG!!!! i have spent several hours mulling over this car, and the Mosler MT900. Absolutely the most beautiful cars ive ever seen in my life.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

That’s a beautiful car with a beautiful story as well. Congratulations on finding this great piece of American engineering.

[@bryanlolwtf04]

Car and Driver just picked a watered-down version so the fault's on them. They were just butthurt lol

[@shokata9923]

Mosler Consulier GTP, one of my childhood cars when I read them in Todtri’s Dream Car encyclopedia in the 1998.

[@discorobotz]

That's cool, but have you ever heard of the Mosler MT900?

[@realgoodideas]

bring back james we love james

[@shxtbox]

That thing has mad leather versions of my recaro fishnets in my Suzuki Ignis sport

[@garyburner3042]

Lesson: Don't believe things you hear about just because it's on the news.

[@GiordanDiodato]

*cough* Fox News *cough*

[@Evan2]

Giordan Diodato CNN****

[@mihan2d]

Like over half of the freakin' world should learn that. Including many eDuCaTiONaL KZbinrs who straight up use mainstream media as their sources... SMH.

[@dragringer1480]

Old media blaming video games *cough*

[@andrewvalenzuela4383]

Fact, the most honest news outlets are usually small ones, local ones, and more often than not they are fined and have to right an article insinuating that they where wrong.

[@BigSteve_Gaming187]

Growing up a guy I knew had a 89' Shelby Edition Dodge Omni and with that 2.2L he decided to supercharge it. It was quick. The torque was so crazy and often he'd blow coolant hoses. I hope he still has that car today.

[@theejoeylee]

My Daytona turbo I had in the 90s sounded like a diesel truck spooling at low rpm. Mine had t tops too. Miss that headgasket eatin' Sonofab!tc#

[@wanderingbufoon]

New guy killed it! Great job! Looking forward when you get unhinged and comfortable. I wonder what kind of crazy antics youll bring.

[@eleonorua]

kinda reminds me of a older version of an Ultima.

[@hj2479]

Ok, but I remember when I first saw an Ultima in the '80s, it was brilliant and way cooler and more trustworthy than this and it is still equally old. My Ultima GTR never gave out on me once in so many years, I don't think I would be able to say the same about this semi-trustworthy machine.

[@robertwoodliff2536]

The Ultima was a bit on the simple side for shape, but this has a prototype feeling, that got into production.

[@robi4387]

The first time I heard someone bragging about their Ultima I kept my mouth shut, as I was thinking Nissan Altima.

[@oranges866]

@@hj2479 the Ultima GTR used (and to my knowledge, still does) the small block V8. of course it's going to last forever. and the Consulier's 2.2L Turbo is also amazingly bulletproof (side bonus: also tunable). the original carbureted N/A destroyed its reputation but the fuel-injected variants restored its worth.

[@hj2479]

@@oranges866 Yes, the old GTR is retired now but mine did used a turbocharged Chevy v8, I sold mine off a couple years ago to a friend of mine for about 50k, he is an automotive engineer and has been real helpful back when I was restoring a firebird with my daughter and with my new Ultima RS build, just a couple more years and it will be ready to run reliably.

[@UnwovenSleeve]

Imagine you make a car so good that it gets banned from racing. That’s gotta be a fuckin compliment