why Tom & Jerry 2021 doesn't work

I can't imagine many people had high hopes for a live action Tom and Jerry film, I can't imagine many people will be surprised that I didn't like it. Nonetheless, this is a film that reuses some of the classic gags from the original cartoons; why aren't they funny here like they were in the show? What is it about the slapstick here that they've got wrong? And then, by extension, what exactly was it about the original cartoons from the 40's and 50's that made them so funny?
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[@simonolson2637]

Since this movie seems to be aimed at millennials and their kids with the themes of marriage and job searching, I think it's safe to say that this falls under the "egregious nostalgia bait" category. It's sad that they tried to draw people in with that instead of what made tom and jerry interesting to watch in the first place (creative slapstick)

[@starspawn507]

...if it's aimed at millennials, why the hell would they make a joke about millennials being entitled as a major plot thing? (her boss not liking her for being a millennial)

[@mindecon8084]

@@starspawn507 to be more relatable to millennials who got treated that way?

[@michaelbolcato192]

The main actress in this movie was born in 1997, so she’s a part of Gen Z. This movie is trying so hard to hip and trendy that’s it total cringe.

[@ChristopherWanha]

@@michaelbolcato192 Millennial offhand is a substitute for youngster. Zoomers often get mixed in.

[@cian.o]

Feels like the smurf movie.

[@KnuckleHunkybuck]

"_____ goes to New York!" is Hollywood movie pitch language for "Instead of coming up with movie ideas, I just got drunk."

[@Attmay]

Jim Henson was a drunk?

[@KnuckleHunkybuck]

@@Attmay He didn't have to be a drunk to have simply been irresponsible enough to get drunk on the night he was supposed to come up with movie ideas for the big pitch meeting the next day. But seriously, a frog dating a pig? Gonzo? Gonzo's relationship with his chicken? Henson must've had a pretty close relationship with the bottle if you ask me.

[@mynameisreallycool1]

Holy crap. You're right.

[@_ikako_]

"goes to space" is the alternative version

[@mynameisreallycool1]

@@_ikako_ "Goes on vacation/to Hawaii"

[@coffeekat-]

The lineless style of tom and jerry makes their expressions less like.. visual? I know its like 3d but it feels like they are made of plastic.

[@Changeling9000]

That’s kinda the point thought, Tom and Jerry have always been like rubber. Making them look/act real would be off putting

[@coffeekat-]

@@Changeling9000 I dont mean their body expressive-ness, I mean the textures on their skin? I know what you mean but the way their fur and faces look when they take away the line-art of the original cartoons makes them look plasticky, especially since they are in realistic backgrounds. The line art of the original cartoons helped make their expressions more visible

[@Changeling9000]

@@coffeekat- I actually find it refreshing to see CG characters lacking realistic textures (fur, coloured pupils etc), not everything in computer animation has to look lifelike. I will admit the movie would have been much better had it been all animated like the characters themselves.

[@coffeekat-]

@@Changeling9000 I dont mean that it doesn't look lifelike. I mean when there is lineart on their faces it highlights their expressions more, making it easier to see how they are feeling. Since the movie is CGI, there is no lineart to do that. But- I feel like the movie would have looked a bit weird with lineart :P I think its fine without realistic textures

[@JEEVES635]

@@coffeekat- there is "lineart", it just isn't as easy to see in far off shots

[@KittyPop]

I honestly believe tom and jerry should always be 2d or if in 3d keep it VERY VERY cartoonic, By adding the live people and the very real surrounding you lose your audience by the sheer fact you see them for what they are, a cat, and a mouse. you can lose the fact that they are a cartoon- of course, they are one but it seems ALL the animals are cartoonish which loses the touch of the animal slapstick. Tom and jerry is a VERY Violent slapstick cartoon, and it requires creative minds to write out unique and well-planned comedy. I'm very disappointed in the fact that each time a new tom and jerry related product has been slowly losing its charm from the past. the fact I can rewatch all the old cartoons even ones I've not seen, I can still find it funny, but watching this? It's very cringy and poorly done. Keep Tom and very 2d honestly, the 3d models and oversaturated colors on them look awful and I'm baffled no one in the production team even went- hmmm can't see their expressions well, and they look like an eyesore in the scene.

[@LShaver947]

It shouldve been like space jam

[@FrierenIsGoated]

Ye

[@johndalquen7668]

I think everyone in the production team was thinking, hmmm, less effort for maximum results for money. That's why the charm has been vanishing, its the profits over talent.

[@hex8317]

facts

[@notbanned6158]

shoulda been like who framed roger rabbit

[@Joe_Yacketori]

This movie honestly has a visceral, deeply saddening aesthetic to it. If it was made satirically, it would legitimately perfectly function as a critique of bland, focus-tested children's movies.

[@torisu_exe]

true, it looks so depressingly dead. we're seeing tom and jerry but they're not _tom and jerry_

[@maryamikrisha8224]

Three reasons: 1. Its 3d 2. It has too many humans 3. The humans have faces

[@pmw5422]

My thoughts whenever I go outside

[@KamtheAstro]

@@pmw5422 underrated comment I’m dead 💀💀

[@dipanjanghosal1662]

Yes remember that in the OG they hardly show human faces so that the focus remains on Tom & Jerry

[@d3fury312]

@@dipanjanghosal1662 ye does days :') thx for Nostalgia

[@kaibutsu0163]

Now that's a POINT!

[@FlorianCalmer]

This kind of movies used to be "direct-to-VHS" films. That frontier between high quality movies and direct-to-video movies is now blurred in part because of streaming services. And I also feel like those movies are advertised like high quality movies used to be so it's even more confusing and/or disappointing when you see them.

[@mylittlethoughttree]

That's a really good point, I hadn't thought of that

[@figglebop]

At least they warned us in the final punchline of the trailer. "Well... THIS was a disaster!"

[@buzzytrombone4353]

I thought those first four films were great as stand alone products of their time. After the fourth one was released it just became an eyesore.

[@Aminangela]

I think the difference is the amount of advertising. This got big time movie advertising I feel like

[@jojodelacroix]

Hmmm. You’re right. This is probably a direct to VHS type thing. But I do have to say that this definitely isn’t advertised the same as other big movies. Big movies go big, think the marvel or Star Wars movies where you literally can’t escape advertising for it for months. I barely even heard about Tom and Jerry 2021 like a week before release. Pretty sure the marketing budgets bear this out as well. Are they marketed different than old straight to vhs movies? Sure. But they’re not on par with modern blockbuster advertisements.

[@Rokkiteer]

Your point is really driven home by the fact that all your clips from the original cartoons made me laugh

[@mylittlethoughttree]

Same! Tom climbing up the fishing rod to hide from Spike has me cracking up

[@LIA-52]

@@mylittlethoughttree These younguns just don't have a sense of humour, where did we fail to educate them true humour?

[@CatastrophicConundrum]

@@LIA-52 Don’t blame the kids, blame the parent who let them watch this garbage

[@LIA-52]

@@CatastrophicConundrum well at least I am not one of those parents, as soon as I notice my kid even looking at the button for it I'll just disown em.

[@abcdefg-xm7dc]

@@LIA-52 nothing brings out the funny like strict parenting

[@geekheavy]

Amen, brother. This movie was a real let down, and I appreciate your breakdown.

[@plasmaoctopus1728]

The title should be "Breakdown of a Letdown"

[@notjinx3545]

Are u a rapper Coz i see u as a...........

[@ludicrouS_406]

yo sick bars man

[@cine-ish]

I enjoyed it.

[@notjinx3545]

@@cine-ish u r like my aunt who enjoyed mulan live adaption 😂

[@Jerry_Fried]

All slapstick would be horrifying in a real-life situation. it only works by divorcing the real-life ramifications from it. In the few clips you showed here, like the piano falling on Tom's head, we go immediately to reaction shots of people being horrified by what they've seen. There's even a loud gasp or groan when the piano hits Tom. This makes the action too real and sucks the humor out of it.

[@areleesmith7914]

Dude the 3 stooges almost died so many times because of this

[@hobomike6935]

Yeah but the 3 stooges knew how to set up the scene so it was humorous, instead of just making you feel bad about even wanting to watch in the first place

[@imlivingunderyourbed7845]

@@areleesmith7914 Tbh Tom and Jerry are a lot more violent than Three stooges. Those two constantly throw sticks of dynamite at each other and both ended up actually dying at least once. But those happened in a 2d cartoon world. Putting that violence in a live action setting wouldn't sound so pretty from the live action characters' perspective.

[@fugg3d]

Yeah it seems like with these new modern remakes the focus is more on having it look cool, rather than keeping up with what made the classics so good in the first place

[@ivanw2080]

Yep, definitely seems to be more style over substance

[@olsandiha846]

I kinda liked it still tbh

[@olsandiha846]

Even tho I love the old shit better there was some stuff in there that made me laugh. But probably cause I was just high

[@dova3282]

In my Opinion couldn’t agree more with you,but Tom and Jerry 2021 looked dog shit,i feel they trying to make it something it should never ever be.

[@johannesschutz780]

tbh I felt the complete opposite way. If they would have tried to make the animals more realistic and less cartoony it would have been much more complicated and could have gone terribly wrong. I enjoyed the movie.

[@LynnHermione]

This is "how do you do fellow kids": the movie

[@markysharkboy0261]

Exactly 😫😫😫

[@ericcartman7361]

Scoob did the exact same thing and Hollywood still thinks people find this funny, which it’s not.

[@Possiblylunar]

Whenever I saw tom flossing and some guy referencing social media that just made me want to jump off something

[@markysharkboy0261]

@@Possiblylunar Just imagine if they referenced anime, especially stuff like “Jojo” or “My Hero Academia” because that’s what those hip kids like isn’t it 🙄😒

[@mfirdanhb]

@@markysharkboy0261 at least it's not fortnite also it will get more popular with memes today really than an old rusty cringy floss

[@bigsweaterman8142]

Feels like a hallmark film with animation from medicine commercials.

[@iaxacs3801]

That makes it seem ironically funny

[@thomassully6421]

That is a perfect description.

[@flameepidemic4839]

R/rareinsults but youre right

[@DuckInGameStop]

YES

[@plixplop]

Damn this is a perfect description

[@cecilarthur3579]

The movie is called The story of a random woman. Oh also Tom and Jerry is in it.

[@AlinaMedina]

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[@christianalfonso4590]

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[@mukmin.]

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[@shadowevil677]

💀

[@linalokir2178]

(××) Rob is trying to do /|\ that dead emoji /\ thingy

[@mctheplaywright]

“You millennials” the actress is in her early 20’s and looks like it, she’s gen z. I know this is a small nitpick, but it shows how outdated and out of touch this script is. Feels like the script was written in 2010

[@totalcrash5006]

its for kids, who cares

[@beautifulbeaner]

@@totalcrash5006 what so just because it’s for kids means it gets a pass on being garbage? There are many amazing kids movies and shows, Dexters Laboratory, Ed Edd and Eddy, Chowder, I can’t stand when people make this brain dead excuse

[@sayanbiswas7364]

@@totalcrash5006 You must have been born as a fully grown adult!

[@Statuslock]

Lmao right, when he said that I was thinkin..."But..YOU look just like a millennial.. "

[@chachwa9970]

@@beautifulbeaner even recently regular show, adventure time, sometime gumball, courage the cowardly dog is older but amazing, gravity falls and others from different times.

[@RickleVR]

This is kinda upsetting to see

[@Pytatoon]

Hello verified channel

[@nacho96469]

As soon as I saw the trailer, I knew it’s was gonna be bad

[@paydenjackson7156]

So true man, I feel like it had some actual potential. If only they just stuck to the original formula and art style..

[@ludicrouS_406]

kinda? just kinda?

[@chachwa9970]

I miss the classic Tom and jerry it was so good like all the other old cartoons that were remade too many times or just forgotten

[@AMTheOcarinaPlayer]

And this is why we will never see another “who framed Roger Rabbit”...

[@cryptic_shirmp1895]

I think it’s better than having a water downed version

[@chilala-kantunguni3416]

Yes and let's keep it that way.

[@littlesparrow303]

Yeah if ppl like me complain about what they did to Lola Bunny. I don’t want Jessica Rabbit being redesign like her body being taken away. Also that sadly today so many ppl are sensitive & that Americans believe boobs are bad while in Japan they make it unrealistic. I heard they were gonna make a sequel but glad they didn’t & hope not

[@adrianoippolito1999]

You cant improve upon perfection

[@TheConer]

@@littlesparrow303 WAIT WHAT THEY NERFED LOLA BUNNY O:

[@konbini2004]

This whole film would have been much less jarring if it was set in a cartoon world like the the simpsons movie. Putting animated characters in the real world is always disappointing and uncanny. Apart from space jam that shit is good idek why

[@mcarts4722]

i mean, who framed roger rabbit is also very good, arguably

[@markdouglas1601]

Space jam worked i think because they set it up as an alternative universe so it made sense

[@joshrussell4021]

We’re past that style imo. It was excusable because that’s most of what they had, but today we can do better, we’ve come so far

[@konbini2004]

I think maybe space jam and rodger rabbit worked because of what mark said. maybe also because the whole mood of the cartoons used are just much zanier and the real human characters in those movies were also pretty appropriately wacky. Watching tom and jerry in the real world is meh because the idea of a cat and mouse fighting in real life isn't very unusual to begin with. Now maybe if you added Micheal Jordan or Bill Murray it could work.

[@mylittlethoughttree]

Yeah, I'd agree with that. Space Jam was whacky as hell, like cartoons. This tom and jerry film took whacky cartoon characters and tried to put them in a very ordinary, slightly mundane world. The moods clash too much

[@cupriferouscatalyst3708]

That motivation for the antagonist is really strange. He's telling her that she's a millennial who doesn't want to work... as he's introducing her to the job she was just hired for. Like, what?

[@Tonatiub]

even weirder because she did stole the job from someone who actually worked her ass to get it so hes in the right yet somehow hes supposed to be the bad guy?

[@ShatteredGlass916]

@@Tonatiub that implied that even if the right girl DO applied, that girl would still get shits on by him. Talk about a healthy work environtment lmao

[@Tonatiub]

@@ShatteredGlass916 I get that; My point is that if you have a character who is prejudiced and you want to portray that prejudice as negative its really counter-intuitive to have the main itineration of that validate his prejudice instead of challenging it.

[@coopeachu]

This reminds me of the first film titled “Tom and jerry: the movie” from the 90s. It barely included any slapstick at all and also had Tom and jerry TALKING

[@helenaperez4343]

i have a soft spot for tom and jerry: the movie (nostalgia reasons), but yeah, that is not the movie one should try to imitate when making an adaptation.

[@TheMasterman666]

It's almost like the people making T&J movies don't understand the source material.

[@Bilal2303]

It wasnt AS bad as whatever...this is

[@Blueflag04]

So glad they never talk here

[@Chaos_867]

@@gothicgirl4261 at least its not live action

[@ganges2264]

Hey, I'm glad they didn't make Tom and Jerry's designs into an uncanny realistic version , but they somehow made it worse by having terrible CGI. The humans just make it 10x more noticeable.

[@flameepidemic4839]

True lol couldve looked like the first realistic sonic design 😂 but fr they only done it for the money thats shitty animation tge just knew ppl would watch it for nostalgia

[@LucyWest370]

Live action Garfield worked better than whatever this was

[@mustang8206]

I like the design

[@drathonix9930]

@@flameepidemic4839 I'm still having flash backs...

[@athalonARC]

If Tom and Jerry need to be side characters in their own film, maybe Tom and Jerry should not be put to film.

[@kamanashiskar9203]

I feel Tom and Jerry is best to be kept 15 min shorts.

[@GavinsBazaar313]

Fast & the Furry is definitive proof that a T&J film CAN work though.

[@minisn3066]

@@GavinsBazaar313 I absolutely adored that movie as a kid! It definitely worked as a film and Tom and Jerry were clearly the protagonists of the movie.

[@thebcwonder4850]

@@minisn3066 I always considered the fat guy's assistant the protagonist

[@LucyWest370]

They’ve always been side characters in their own film Remember Tom and Jerry meet the _________? The problem with Tom and Jerry being in hour long movies is that they can’t have any dialogue. This is like the pink panther all over again, stop making movies where the main characters can’t talk and eventually end up with them getting sidelined. Make another Garfield movie.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

It doesn't help that Tom and Jerry REALLY don't look like they're there. Roger Rabbit just did it so much better somehow. They made the same mistake with the 90s animated Tom and Jerry movie (the one with the orphan girl Robyn whose dad is Indiana Jones), it's not THEIR story, it's Robyn's story. This movie does the same with the lead actress, and you know Hollywood loves the whole "live-action remake" fad because they can sell the lead actors over the actual title characters.

[@Attmay]

The 90s movie would have been better off if they had called it *The Rescuers Part III* . This makes me take back every bad thing I ever said about Bill Hanna and Joe Barbera.

[@bravelittleroomba]

Roger Rabbit was largely a passion project. This movie was a money grab. Both times, it shows.

[@FullTimePanda]

Roger Rabbit was made in 1988.... THINK ABOUT THAT, 1988 and its continuously out performing most liveaction/animated films in the last couple decades.

[@scoutart1508]

Technically, the visual effects were the highlights of this film with the slapstick moments, and at least the interaction of the actors with the 3d cartoons were fine, especially the lead actress that had fun doing the role since she was mainly inspired in Bob Hoskins

[@16taysia]

I LOVE the original one with Robyn...and I'm a 90s kid!

[@aliakhtar8622]

I’m surprised you didn’t bring attention to the Tom and Jerry: Blast Off to Mars movie. I think that’s a great example of how to do a Tom and Jerry movie right! Edit: Or any other animated T&J movie from around that time, lol.

[@mustang8206]

Early 2000s aninated Tom and Jerry and Scooby Doo movies were the goat

[@aliakhtar8622]

@@mustang8206 Amen brother!

[@WTrends-1]

I watched that movie so many damn times

[@WTrends-1]

Fucking loved that movie

[@deesnuts4993]

Loved that movie but I lost my Tom and Jerry CDs when we moved out

[@webbedshadow2601]

Dafuq, they went with literally the fakest art style i've ever seen for cartoon characters in live-action, Can this even be called CGI/animation? i have no idea..the Smurfs definitely worked better than Tom & Jerry do, should've been a 2D movie.

[@bountyhunterbobafett153]

Actually the smurfs freaked me out their animation looks horrible so I prefer Tom and Jerry way more

[@jseden]

Who framed Roger rabbit or cool world worked better then this!

[@TheNatuza]

i think it keeps with that nostalgic theme by using a similar art style to films like space jam and roger rabbit which people who grew up with tom and jerry grew up with, it's just the plot that's shit

[@esphilee]

@@jseden , Who frame roger rabbit is way better.

[@andrewmoore555]

I just got done watching who framed Roger rabbit, it was made in 1987, 34 years ago and looks way better than this shit

[@MaMastoast]

My girlfriend is a huge tom and Jerry fan and was so excited to watch this together.. I think we switched it off less than halfway into the film... I think "bland" is the most fitting word I can come up with.

[@kamanashiskar9203]

I am also Tom and Jerry fan, but I didn't watch the movie ever since watching the trailer.

[@Zikeal-d4l]

Sanaol

[@codysimpson911]

I turned it off 15 minutes in.

[@WilliamFuckingButcher]

I'm a Old Tom and Jerry fan but this movie trailer was a mistake

[@Blueflag04]

i watched till the end

[@Zulk_RS]

"Keep using dust clouds to avoid animating actual slapstick" ... If you didn't want to animate slapstick... why the heck pick Tom and Jerry to make a movie on?

[@burntbacn]

Nostalgia bait for easy money.

[@TheVanishing87]

Because they're super greedy and don't want to lose their rights to the characters; which they eventually will if they don't keep making movies with them in it. To quote the 90's Tom and Jerry movie: "We've got to have money!"

[@justahotdog8430]

money

[@dougthedonkey1805]

And the customers are buying and the money multiplying and the PR people lying and the lawyers are denying

[@ellytrabread]

except they did animate the actual slapstick, the dust cloud was a gag at how older shows had "animal tornados"

[@cecilia7932]

Here's my pitch: Tom is moving in to a new house with his owner, a nice elderly lady. He really loves his owner and that's shown. They lead a very nice life that complements each other. He's very content. Perhaps they're moving because the lady's husband just passed a few months back and she needs to get away from the memories and to a cheaper house. They're both still mourning their loss. Then, we see Jerry. A mouse living in this house. It's been empty for quite some time but he still fondly remembers the nice family that lived there before. He's used to owning the house. Being treated well by people. Then, the first meeting. The old lady doesn't like mice. They freak her out. And Tom and Jerry clearly have very different ideas about who owns the house and how to "run it". The comedy battle ensues with Tom and Jerry trying to outsmart and up each other constantly until the house eventually ends up in ruins after all of their fighting. Turns out the old lady is the grandmother in the family that used to live there. They saved their house for her and gifted it to her when they were moving to a bigger place. The whole movie concludes with a lesson about being kind to people because you never know their story or something like that. I don't know, I just came up with this now so it's probably not that good, but my point is they should have kept it simple

[@gentlesandladymen]

Wait I love this

[@gentlesandladymen]

It has enough room for emotional depth and slapstick. Perfect

[@jackalvengeance4702]

Someone get this man a production payroll. This is something that could sell!!

[@obesebison2178]

That would be so much better than whatever this movie was trying to be

[@DantesGrill]

Cool, now stretch that idea into a one and a half hour movie and see if that 20 minute premise gets stale or not.

[@cortanatheai6103]

I hate it when movies turn animated media into live action. These characters are the creators interpretation of reality, so by their nature, they shouldn't work in reality. My interpretation of reality isn't the interpretation of reality. Usually in these movies, they assimilate the animated media into reality too much, where the characters requires real actors to support them

[@cortanatheai6103]

@jermaine tobin where did you get who shot Roger rabbit? Also, use the correct name before you go all smart-ass on me

[@cortanatheai6103]

@jermaine tobin read my comment, where did I ever mention "who framed Roger rabbit"?

[@cortanatheai6103]

@jermaine tobin ah I see, I thought you were naming an example in my comment. Well that is true, as well as for Space Jam, the majority of movies where animation and live action (Alvin and the Chipmunks, the Smurfs, Tom and Jerry, etc) usually follow this pattern

[@hobomike6935]

Agreed. It’s like they saw Disney , in their creativity crisis, say “I know! We’ll rehash our successes from the 90s and before into live action movies so we can get some more cash flow!” And then all the other hollywooders said “hey, Disney’s making money, copy that idea with whatever intellectual properties you can get ahold of, so we also can make money. Have I mentioned we like money?” Each release devalues and tarnishes the original work, with the exception of the sonic movie which was passable as an original work.

[@stardoogalaxie9314]

Why is the quality of the live action shots so flat and badly lit? Like, even the live action shots of Who Framed Roger Rabbit were lit properly

[@Zarastro54]

Well, Who Framed Roger Rabbit is a competent film.

[@carlosreyesf19]

Ikr It looks so weird because the lighting and the brightness of Tom and Jerry do not make sense with the rest of the scene.

[@RevelationsPrimo]

Cash-grab script for the shitty "animated characters visit live action NYC" that should've died years ago. It's safe, and almost guaranteed to make money back... especially in home media sales. If it fails, they can just do it again in a few years...

[@Chaos_867]

Should of casted sam raimi

[@RoseRocket]

@Joshua Colman That still doesn't make sense to be honest. Lighting and shadows are always FUNDAMENTAL in art and animation. Maybe not as much in cartoons, but movies will definitely go over and beyond just for the sake of quality. It's like these corporates forget to make movies enjoyable for kids, teens and adults. Anyone remember Spongebob, or Hey Arnold?? They weren't only enjoyable to kids but to adults as well! That's where 2020- and future films now are missing. They feel like they're trying too hard and they make their movies irrelevant due to them being too worried about what's going on in the present. Imagine coming back to a movie in your 20s when you were 10 watching this and just feel like gagging because they're talking about fortnite which probably died years before you went to highschool. Anyway that's just my rant lol don't take me too serious.

[@Sean-ne3gx]

That piano episode of Tom and Jerry is how I learned the way a piano works

[@kamanashiskar9203]

The Cat Concerto 1947? It won the Oscar Award.

[@giantclaw138]

Oh my gosh, that episode was amazing

[@dhilipans5412]

ye same here . never knew it was made of strings and all that

[@danieldietrich9969]

This episode did the same for me as a kid. Imagine a kid actually learning something about the world from modern cartoons.

[@kamanashiskar9203]

@@danieldietrich9969 Agreed.

[@AlexReynard]

Bay's Transformers started the trend of making movies like this, with heavy emphasis on the human cast instead of the characters you went there to see. But that's because the Transformers were massively-complicated CGI designs that took mind-boggling amounts of time and money to render. It's a cost-cutting strategy. And even the sequels to it relied on it less and had more of the Transformers. Doing it again with such meh CGI as this just makes the formula look even more cheap than it already was, in every sense.

[@games_on_phone89]

Pretty sure this whole fiasco started with either rocky & bullwinkle or garfield

[@bdpickett]

This has basically always been the case these live-action/animated hybrids.

[@AlexReynard]

@@games_on_phone89 ...dear god, I forgot the rocky & Bullwinkle movie.

[@LucyWest370]

To be fair even though the characters we didn’t want to see were taking up screen time, at least the transformers were still there, like, doing stuff, and in the fight scenes they didn’t cut to random people reacting to them

[@LucyWest370]

@@games_on_phone89 Garfield definetly had more screen time than Jon or Odie tho.

[@Gaaraape]

I just wish I knew what the process behind productions like this is like. It's completely incomprehensible to me how a movie like this could be made by sentient human beings unless its very deliberate.

[@elenaruh2144]

Exactly!!

[@myhandlehasbeenmishandled]

what do you mean by "unless it's very deliberate"? Cinematography is deliberate. They shoot the live action first, and use it as a reference to animate characters in a right place. Actors probably had to act their scenes on their own or with some sort of a prop for a movement reference. Prop is then removed in post production.

[@Gaaraape]

@@myhandlehasbeenmishandled Deliberate as in did they deliberately make the movie so horribly tone deaf and out of touch?

[@budusbusham3324]

@@Gaaraape films are made by professional freelance craftsmen paid to do a job. Passion very rarely has the chance to enter the equation when you’ve three days to shoot a scene that really needs two weeks. The good films we all like and actually remember tend to be the exceptions to the rules where everything worked out on set or the director was a really demented bastard.

[@ranchyeezys5735]

@@Gaaraape it's an industry. Made by companies. The number one objective of ANY company is make money. For the people that worked on the movie it's a 9-5 job. Deadlines are to be met. Time is breathing down the production's team neck. They need to cater to the widest possible audience because they need to make a profit. Want passion? Don't look towards hollywood

[@kristijanoros7208]

The Kids movies in general seem to be getting worse and worse in terms of quality.

[@Blueflag04]

except for Sonic

[@kristijanoros7208]

@@Blueflag04 it was going to be another one if they didn't remake it with better sonic

[@jytvreal]

@@kristijanoros7208 damn that redesign save

[@Briaesthetic]

The world today think that the better the graphic of a movie, the better the movie

[@Profy00]

What? Have you seen what Disney and DreamWorks have been putting out in like the last ten years? There have always been terrible kids movies and great kids movies, you're just biased towards the ones that came out when it was you they were made for

[@ovalemulti3977]

IMO, What makes old Tom and Jerry good is: 1. old styled 2. classical music

[@XavierZazi]

3. The jokes were well executed

[@christopherkane370]

5. There were few humans in it

[@Chaos_867]

6 :Tom and jerry learning how to be friends by seeing their destruction Without talking

[@thechannelofchuchu]

7. No cringy pop culture references and weird fart jokes

[@klas-6]

9. Better animation as well as being 2D

[@Suho1004]

Another remake film that fails because the filmmakers fail to understand what made the original great. Thanks for taking one for the team on this.

[@kamanashiskar9203]

I think the current Tom and Jerry creators need to understand the meaning of Tom and Jerry.

[@traviss9059]

Space Jam was in 1996 and looks 1000x better than this.

[@michaelbolcato192]

The animation in this movie looks like a GameCube game.

[@PEKO-PEKO]

And then there’s Rodger Rabbit that legit came out in 1988 and yet had more details than this movie could ever had

[@Arttective]

This makes the old Sonic the Hedgehog trailer look better

[@starzersion6064]

Yeah even the 1998 version is cool

[@sourjoker962]

Stop the cap

[@gabrielkrauter2242]

I feel like the color correction is off in spots. I get that the old show had a yellow blue color scheme overall but this... uh... film makes all the blues way too strong so it is more distracting than just a color pallet theme.

[@thatgirlwhoplaysviolin6365]

When you think about it, The Simpsons predicted the future again. There was this one episode where everyone was so hyped for the Itchy and Scratchy movie, but nobody was really satisfied when they saw it.

[@Sirmatorz]

How the fuck do they keep doing this shit tho?

[@drathonix9930]

@@Sirmatorz I think we need to start an FBI investigation

[@Sirmatorz]

@@drathonix9930 nah fam either they already know or are the ones behind it we gotta find someone else

[@Blueflag04]

x files theme intensifies

[@ЕкатеринаКатюша-х4к]

Was anybody excited by this movie? I, for my part, discovered its existence because of this video

[@shaldurprime7154]

as a fan of the original Tom and Jerry The Movie, i find this films existence heretical

[@jadeywhosshady3058]

R.I.P tom and jerry a legendary cartoon that will always have a place in our hearts you will be missed also btw I know they have shows of tom and jerry but the original will always be the best

[@manuelvidal1387]

Are you kidding?!? Every shot of Kayla was worth the movie! Add some tand j and she is actually animated!

[@harshtrewaynee]

@@jadeywhosshady3058 not rip my friend

[@Spyziy]

@@manuelvidal1387 if the movie was called “Kayla At the hotel” sure id say it would be a decent movie. She’s a very good actor but her story just doesn’t fit in a ton and jerry movie

[@Blueflag04]

at least they never talk in this movie

[@InfinityBeyond7]

They should stop with the remake already, it's time we move on from the past and actually formulate something greater for the future and the present. It's mad how most popular series are franchises that was established in the 90s or from a book that's published yearss ago...

[@timrosswood4259]

The problem is people don't wan't to move from the past. They wan't to scream like a baboon when a trailer for a new marvel movie gets released. People wan't endless fan service and hollywood likes that, they can just make the same thing over and over again and fans will be happy.

[@elenaruh2144]

Exactly. We only see more and more of the same, because thats what people want and that's what is easy for the companies. But it's horrible

[@buzzytrombone4353]

@@timrosswood4259 The people who like that kind of stuff are people with webbed feet and serious addictions to masturbating to cartoons. It began in 2008, and ever since then, it's become nothing more than a cash cow for Hollywood.

[@ZigUncut]

@@timrosswood4259 the problem is copyright law. There is no incentive to create some new. Not like it used to be.

[@TheEplestugas]

I agree, but People don't want to invest in new things. The studios need investors to get filmes made. Those investors don't want to loos money. As a result, only movies will be made which are a "safe bet". It's stupid but the way it works right now.

[@doctorgothicc]

Was Tom and Jerry like about to go in to the public domain? This movie looks cheap as hell. There's no way this was anyone's pet passion project

[@rotundmonibuv5103]

I don't think they'll enter the public domain until 2035, but that's assuming that ownership isn't extended past then, which it most likely will. Mickey should've been in the PD for years if it weren't for Disney's bs.

[@mustang8206]

They won't ever enter public domain

[@inventions178]

@@mustang8206 That's unlawful for that to happen.

[@totalcrash5006]

@@mustang8206 they will after a 100 years of its creation or so

[@lukaszspychaj9210]

@@inventions178 disney will probably force yet another bs copyright law extension through congress and we will be at the same point we were 10 years ago

[@TempusTheFirst]

I don't know why companies don't understand that cartoon characters in a realistic setting don't work.

[@Maesterful]

It worked for who framed Roger rabbit, apart from that very few other films have managed it

[@Blueflag04]

Sonic worked well

[@RoseRocket]

Space Jam, Who Killed Roger Rabbit. It does work it's just not being used correctly.

[@thechannelofchuchu]

@@Blueflag04 Paddington more like

[@bup4155]

This just feels like another one of those movies where they wanted to tell a story with human characters but decided to add cartoon characters to make it more alluring like the smurfs movie

[@scrittle]

This movie is an example of Market Research so its going to add in trash concepts to a trash story written by a writer who bases his whole story on Market Research The moment I saw the apple brand and Ken Jeong I understood how bad this movie was

[@Luke-3281]

it’s been revealed back in August of 2021 that the writers of Sonic The Hedgehog movie were called by WB to write Tom and Jerry (2021). But WB executives get rid of Pat and Josh because they don’t want the cat and mouse to be the main focus. The source is by a website cartoon brew and by a podcast called The GHZ Podcast (The podcast isn’t available on KZbin but somewhere different and I found this on a tweet)

[@mumps_4626]

Something to consider further is the use of narrative space. Slapstick or physical comedy requires a huge amount of narrative space. This explains why, as you mention, Tom and Jerry feel like a "background": the tit-for-tat, the pratfall, the three-stooges poke-in-the-eye appear simply but they demand attention and capture it in a very effective way. This is where the feeling of stupidity comes from: there's little room for character development, larger exposition, etc. Imagine Charlie Chaplin in a coming-of-age story. It simply doesn't work, not because it would be a money-grabbing remake, or require complex CG, or anything else. There is nothing inherently doomed about remakes (the roots of cinema lie in the remaking of novels: the entire medium has always been about "remaking). A film like this just ignores everything that goes into motion art and animation: space, timing, narrative, action, etc. It reduces Tom and Jerry to the cultural memory of "Tom and Jerry" (a cat and mouse game based on violence) rather than the dynamic of Tom and Jerry (a purposely shallow character play the real interest of which lies in *denying expectation* : the point is knowing Tom will not catch Jerry. The experience is drawing that suspension out, subverting the ways in which the viewer expects Tom *won't* catch Jerry, and so on.)

[@TheCalcMan]

But Charlie Chaplin did well in The Great Dictator, didn't he?

[@rose_yy]

Tom and Jerry is better off without the excessive human presence, especially those with heads on them

[@Heavy-W-Guy]

Ye just the idea that we never used to see upper parts of humans was sometimes really frustrating to me doe

[@jytvreal]

hanna barbera never puts heads

[@jytvreal]

@@Heavy-W-Guy from toms pov

[@buttercupcoffee5972]

I feel like if it was rougher looking art . Not so clean. It might be better. Like look at Who framed Roger rabbit. It worked.

[@buriedstpatrick2294]

I don't know if this is just a sign of getting old, but I'm so tired of this clean and safe aesthetic. Just looking at how much more expressive the cartoons were compared to this really cements why I loved Tom & Jerry as a kid. It also really highlights the limitations of 3D animation when it tries to imitate traditional styles. There's just something there you can't replicate with more efficient methods.

[@mylittlethoughttree]

Yeah, it was too clean, which took away a lot of the character, but also made it harder to actually see what was happening

[@buttercupcoffee5972]

@@mylittlethoughttreeexactly!.

[@MoriahDreams123]

@@buriedstpatrick2294 They gonna do the same thing with the Rugrats reboot. It looks Ugly.

[@buttercupcoffee5972]

@@MoriahDreams123 they are rebooting Rugrats!

[@WGSen]

They must have been thinking, "If we get a bunch of funny people in the movie, the movie will be funny."

[@robertfleischmann4119]

Yeah, they tried that with Ghostbusters 2016 too!

[@shady8261]

@@robertfleischmann4119 and they didn't even manage to get funny people

[@hopper6094]

@@shady8261 I disagree

[@rotundmonibuv5103]

Damn, they literally just copied the scene verbatim. There's a difference between referencing and just reusing.

[@dipanjanghosal1662]

And added oversmooth 3d animations and cringy hip hop instead of the classic instrumental

[@scrittle]

Agreed, these aren't call-backs, they're arbitrary eye-candy milked from the show to shift children's attention back onto the screen after they fall asleep within the first 5 minutes.

[@THESLlCK]

The old tom and jerry used the musical instruments as a sound effect That was art

[@AlexReynard]

I'm also noticing that they do that annoying color-oversaturation bullshit. "It'll make everything look more like a cartoon!" No, it just looks fake. If you're going for contrasting-toon-characters-with-real-life, then don't confuse the two.

[@Kyntteri]

This movie's purpose is to make you remember how great the Roger Rabbit's cartoon&live movie is and go watch it instead. Also, this makes Cool World seem less crappy now.

[@Benjamillion]

Cool World was and always will be a guilty pleasure movie of mine, despite how corny it can be at times. Just sucks we never got to see the film how it was originally intended.

[@gamerboy0499]

better yet watch the original tom and jerry again. 1000x better.

[@bc9719]

Oh the Smurfs was tame compared to what they did with The Flintstones and Rocky and Bullwinkle and let's not forget Casper or the atrociousness that was the only time Grandma got run over by a reindeer ever got made into a movie. Gotta love adult themes in children's movies eh 🤮🤮🤮🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@misseli1]

This feels like a bad early 2010s movie. *edit:* I'm thinking of the 2011 Smurfs live action movie specifically.

[@lunarcorpse]

I actually like The Smurfs movie. This Tom and Jerry movie was just awful.

[@kennzfrenzy]

@@lunarcorpse yeah smurfs wasn't to bad

[@gary69_]

yes, looks like some shit from 2011-2012

[@Co27Enigma]

The movie didn’t have Tom’s signature scream, also the human characters, especially the main lady, has that sterilized corporate friendly demeanor. It’s cringe.

[@Rodrifer2004]

It has his scream, even though its only used once

[@Blueflag04]

there was a scream but it was cut down to half

[@erendegeneres4182]

When I read your comment his scream immediately echoed in my head. lol (it really was in the movie, but that ain't his signature scream, if I may say so myself)

[@Legendary_godzilla.2019]

He did do 2 original screams one is where he gets electrocuted the other is where jerry slams the car door on Tom's tail

[@Crusader316]

What wouldve been cool to see: humans hire tom to get jerry out of hotel, humans arent present until we need like guests at a dinner or something, but theres no human storyline, and its just tge duo beating the shit out of each other, no 2d irl stuff either, all drawn

[@DucPr0]

Well one of the arguments in the video is that the movie ain’t imaginative enough. Repetition of the few same gags for 90 minutes probably isn’t good. The only way to solve that would be more imaginative writers but uhhh....

[@actualgarbage8549]

also they dont show their face

[@hittingyouoverthehead]

That would get boring after the first 30 minutes. The movie as such would have worked if Tom and Jerry had some real connection with the humans. IMO, the problem was that the animals only interacted with two characters- Kayla and Terrence and both of them were objectively shitty people. One was a girl who lied her way into a job and the other a petty jealous man trying to tear someone down. Instead, if the human characters themselves had some sort of redeemable qualities and they bonded, that would have been better- Here's my attempt at it- Tom is the bride's cat who doesn't get along with the groom's dog (who is Spike). The couple has had arguments over which of their pets should be in the wedding and finally as a compromise bring both of them to the hotel. Jerry is already a mouse living in the hotel and maybe at first Tom tries to chase and eat Jerry, Jerry and Spike form an alliance to take down Tom. The story can be taken from there.

[@HerrIMorke]

It actually makes me happy that you are doing a video on how Slapstick works and is timeless. So often, as you mentioned, it is seen as basic and even crass. I have no shame in saying that I enjoy it and always will. I struggle with PTSD and Bipolar 2 and sometimes, at my lowest, things like Tom & Jerry are the only things to make me laugh. There is a reason I have 5 Wile. E. Coyote T-shirts.

[@andreavalle3987]

It’s so sad how these remakes are so lazy. They really rely a lot on the audience’s knowledge of what they have previously watched. Also, you can tell the writers do not really understand the source material at all. Like for example here, and what you say with the slapstick comedy’s pacing; what they’re telling me with this film is that they just watched one episode and then remembered that it was fast and put it into the movie. Another good example is the remake of Beauty and the Beast. They totally misinterpreted Belle, and Belle and Beast’s relationship. It’s just sad really

[@inventions178]

I love how you call them lazy, yet filmmakers spend months on it tiredly.

[@blacklisted351]

@@inventions178 Here's the thing though: All movies are worked on for months, but not all movies are good

[@boid9761]

@@inventions178 If the director or writer doesn't understand what they're working with, chances are they'd continue making mistakes because the foundation is wrong to begin with. Animators take the brunt of harsh comments, and it's often who's leading who's at fault.

[@anonymousstout4759]

@@inventions178 it doesn't matter whether they spend it months or years if the end product aren't really that good you can tell they they didn't do the research and work tirelessly

[@gilly_axolotl]

God this just makes me think of how well "who frames roger rabbit" was done

[@hblaub]

In this sense (characters being ripped out of their preferred medium) this Tom & Jerry 'movie' is like the Lion King or Mulan: A lot of imaginative stylistic choices are removed and the whole becomes pointless - in a poor man's approach to make a 'more realistic' movie.

[@RedFloyd469]

The term "realism" gets thrown around a lot when talking about the less than mediocre disney remakes. The truth is that "realism" is not equivalent to "using real life actors, in a setting that looks like it's taken from the real world". Realism means grounding your characters in their world, having them be emotionally relatable without it being pandering, and having logically consistent rules to your world-building. Although the Lion King remake never actively broke the rules of realism, it also didn't add anything of value that wasn't already there in the original, infinitely more beautiful animated film. As a matter of fact it kind of DID break it's rules by having the characters look real but still have their mouths move in stiff, CGI movements that portray no emotions. As for Mulan, realism is fully thrown out of the window. Mulan is a complete mary sue, completely unlikeable, and breaks the laws of her own universe's physics constantly, with no regard for her own safety, because she can't be hurt anyway. The message of the film is all over the place, and none of the characters are likeable, as opposed to the absolutely amazing original Mulan film. "Realism" is completely absent here.

[@thatsdree1350]

As bad as this movie is, the only good thing about it is that they never turned my beloved childhood characters into horrifying realistic cgi models.

[@demonizedlife2640]

Flashbacks to the first Sonic movie trailer.

[@CaptainCoolzCT-]

@@demonizedlife2640 yeah, that was horrifying. At least now, movie sonic looks like sonic.

[@kennzfrenzy]

@@CaptainCoolzCT- yes I loved to new sonic design, so much better. I think the eyes helped a lot for it to look not bad anymore

[@Heavy-W-Guy]

Ye imagine a realistic looking cat being crushed between two objects and becoming an accordion, i dont think that would work

[@MichellaneousMe]

I can’t speak for all children, but my son really wanted to watch this only to get bored halfway through it. We didn’t finish the movie

[@noodles6901]

Damn.

[@redactedseed7114]

Same with my little brother

[@mendez9870]

I’m 18 and as a kid I loved the show and I also was watching it with my 1 year old daughter but dam 30 min in I turned that shit off it was so cringe to me

[@Blueflag04]

i manage to watch till the part where they went to Central Park and then stopped

[@zunfren]

Man, the same thing for my 2 boys. I managed to sit through it all for the sake of it, but it was one of those things you didn't talk about after words.

[@Kaiser25]

has someone who absolutely praises T&J for being the best childhood classic, the trailer itself for this film felt really bland, like something was off. I didn't watch the movie but I see that other people are getting the same vibes

[@jadenexisted9123]

Jerry: does orange justice on piano scene Me: *your free life trial has expired*

[@majorburns3680]

Personally I was fine with the Tom and Jerry parts of the movie, but my god that story has to be the biggest pile of teenybopper trash I’ve ever seen. (Girl steals someone’s resume to get a job she has no business or experience doing. Then at the end after she has caused tens of thousands of dollars in damage but everything is ok because she tried her hardest and that’s what matters)

[@chachwa9970]

I always hate that “oh I made tons of mistakes that are all my fault but I won’t get blamed because i tried.”

[@abhishekacharjee9931]

Well that's what the liberal genz kids want to hear , that you can fuck up your education, have no experience or qualifications and still live your dream and your best life, and on the way even if you make mistakes, people will forgive you because atleast you tried hard and you brought people closer ( and obviously the protagonist has to be a girl, you go girl to drive home the point that you can achieve anything as long as you try). And I'm 24 before anyone calls me a boomer

[@Zarastro54]

@@abhishekacharjee9931 From all the chud bad takes I’ve heard from younger people (including you), I’ve found that “boomer” is as much of a mindset as it is a hard age range. Nobody wants this crap or looks up to it. That’s why the movie isn’t getting any buzz. It’s literally that mindset that got this movie made the way it was in the first place. Get over yourself.

[@drathonix9930]

​@@abhishekacharjee9931 This movie has literally nothing to do with any sort of toxic "liberal" agenda. There's no attempt to force in any sort of diversity and even so that doesn't change crap about it, definitely doesn't matter that the main character is a girl either. Also I'm pretty sure the "liberal" ideology encourages people getting educated. Why would they want cheaper college? How are they going to get qualified if they can't pay? How are they going to pay if they aren't qualified? I know the "I need to go to college to get a job/get a job to go to college" concept is ridiculous but sadly its becoming true. Colleges are way overpriced at this point and the debt keeps rising. The liberal agenda you're talking about is the agenda of idiot SJWs meanwhile the majority of the left doesn't think that way. The right doesn't own the "pull yourselves up by the bootstraps" idea. Yes, there is a toxic group of people who believe in a perfect utopia where no one has to get offended and where everyone is equal but this movie is not a part of that, its a boomer corporate cash grab with HORRIBLE writing. There's not one moment in this movie where I got annoyed by any sort of SJWism, its all just a cringe attempt to be "hip and cool, look at me children I know how to floss" and its so focused on that it forgets that it is a Tom and Jerry movie. Centrist Gen Z is where its at btw.

[@abhishekacharjee9931]

@@drathonix9930 I never said it forces liberal agendas like Ghostbusters or Charlie's Angles, but its catered to an young audience , the line saying " You millennials.........blah blah" was mostly done to please the younger audiences who think the older folks look down upon them and underestimate their potential. But then again, this is a formulaic movie story which is actually catered to mainly young teen girls, just because it used a timeless classic to sell this bad story is what I don't like. That's all, and I don't disagree with anything you said. Have a good day , peace out

[@xxDrain]

Clearly no one was interested in making a good movie here. The incentive seems to have just been a cash grab on a popular IP.

[@hecticgloww]

oH mY gOsH I didn't even know this was a thing hahahah

[@mylittlethoughttree]

Lucky you 😆

[@coyraig8332]

They announced it like 2 weeks before it released

[@Jauntiii]

Not surprised

[@DirectFireDave]

How’d you avoid the marketing

[@musickeeper1062]

If anyone sees this, watch Looney Tunes: Back in Action rather than this pile of shite. Superior blend of Tom & Jerry slapstick animation and "real-world" and it has Brendan Fraser. :)

[@laurenaspreyart]

Yes! I’ve always wanted to watch that :)

[@reversible8740]

The reboot of the looney tunes is also really good. Not a movie but it captures what this movie couldnt

[@littlesparrow303]

Yeah when watching Tom & Jerry I was literally on my phone a lot cause I couldn’t keep watching it. Looney Tunes back in action I think I’ll rewatch it again this week.

[@rotundmonibuv5103]

That's my second best live action animation hybrid behind Roger Rabbit.

[@dipanjanghosal1662]

I still watch original Tom & Jerry daily. And still laugh like a maniac.

[@inkandfable1744]

Some people look at films like “Space Jam” and “Who Framed Roger Rabbit?” and ask, “well, what’s the difference?” IT WORKED. This entire movie was just one huge dumpster fire. Never again.

[@Aster_Risk]

I love that you talk about things you enjoy, but if this is how you discuss things you don't like then I have no problem with you doing that when you feel like it. You did such a good job articulating what didn't work about this film without resorting to being overly negative. I had no interest in seeing this film, but I really liked listening to you talk about it. 🙂

[@mylittlethoughttree]

Thankyou! 😊

[@toddhollen]

Someone should also tell this movie that Chloe Grace Moretz is 24, so she is Gen Z. If they are going to make cringy generalizations about younger generations they should at least get the generation right.

[@mynameisreallycool1]

I guess we're becoming the next gen x, since we're already being forgotten.

[@_ikako_]

millenial can go all the way to 2004, depending which defenition you use.

[@mynameisreallycool1]

@@_ikako_ One bogus source that says that it stops at 2004 means nothing. Most say that it stops from 1994-1996, so I think it's better to go with that.

[@_ikako_]

@@mynameisreallycool1 "Researchers and popular media use the early 1980s as starting birth years and the mid-1990s to early 2000s as ending birth years, with 1981 to 1996 being a widely accepted defining range for the generation" Most people accept 1996 as the end, but it is acceptable to call people born in the early 2000s millennials as well.

[@crimsonmask3819]

Maybe the script was in production Hell for twenty years....

[@honeybee1256]

It tried to be space jam, and it failed.

[@Attmay]

The New York setting obviously was inspired by *Enchanted.*

[@malcorub]

It might have been released just to prepare us for the new Space Jam.

[@SleepySloth2705]

You know this movie is bad when WB themselves "accidentally" played Zack Snyder's Justice League over it 👀

[@Mohamad-m7md]

What are you talking about

[@Anita-pj1jx]

Honestly, the movie title should be *Preeta and Ben, featuring Tom & Jerry*

[@andrewmartin3671]

There also seems to be this naive linear thinking that if someone is going to get hit then the further they fly, or the faster it happens, the funnier it is. In my limited experience of animation, the funniest effects are ones that happen at a believable pace where you can clearly see the cause and effect. Compare Jerry hitting Tom with a vase at 15:40 with Tom pulling himself into the air during the scene with the keyboard in the park. Jerry's hit, while fast, had a clear wind up, followed by Tom falling to the floor. It's fine and it's funny. Tom"s tail grab firstly happens on a cut, and secondly it instantly turns him into a strange whirlwind in the sky. I assume it's because faster and higher was meant to be funnier, but imagine if all that happened was Tom sitting up, feeling the pull from his tail, and then looking surprised as he slid off the back of his chair. It would be significantly slower, but would be easier to understand, you'd be able to see Tom's expression and the panic to avoid falling off the seat is something we've all seen. Same thing with Tom's balloons instantly launching him into the very distance when he's at the hotel window. Faster didn't mean funnier. Anyway, rant over.

[@mylittlethoughttree]

Completely agree. It's the reactions that make it funny. Too often the film either rushed them, drowned them out with epicness, or showed us the live action crowd cringing at the disaster instead. Doesn't matter how many times we see a crowd cringe in this film, "oh no, the posh hotel has been trashed" isn't even a tenth as funny as "Tom is hurt in an imaginative way and pulls a face"

[@protorhinocerator142]

Agreed. One of the best examples of this was Wyle E. Coyote. He would plan an elaborate trap against the Road Runner and it would fail or backfire. Then there was that look of confusion, all happening in a drawn-out ohnosecond. The physics of what shouldn't/couldn't have happened combine in his head with the physics of what's about to happen to him, often while he's in mid-air reaching beneath him to find whatever he's supposed to be standing on and it's just not there. You can see it all on his face. The terror hits him and then he falls a half mile to the rocky surface below. The funny part is where the audience is along for the ride in his thought process, all brilliantly conveyed through expression. You can't just have him fall and splat. There's no investment in his predicament. Nobody would watch if it was just him falling, getting run over, and getting blown up. There's a process to it. Each of Coyote's traps has a journey. a. He's hungry or wants revenge. b. He devises a brilliant scheme to get the Road Runner. c. He often sends off for expensive equipment for his trap, usually from the Acme Corporation. d. The Road Runner shows up, apparently falling right into the trap. e. Coyote attacks. f. Something simple goes wrong, or the Road Runner defies the laws of physics. g. Road Runner effortlessly escapes the trap. h. Coyote is now trapped by his own trap. i. That moment of desperation as he tries to un-trap himself. This could draw out for quite a while, introducing new traps or improbable situations. j. No matter how valiantly he struggles, Coyote can't break free from the trap in time to save himself. k. Coyote often resigns himself to his fate, holding up a HELP sign or a tiny umbrella. l. Splat, kaboom, poof, ouch, etc. m. Coyote is seen all mangled up, bandaged, burned to a crisp, or walking like an accordian. You don't jump straight to step l or m. That's just wrong.

[@pixalmated4853]

Jerry smashing the piano on toms finger, and their still playing, gets me everytime 😂 😂 😂

[@1MarmadukeFan]

Roger Rabbit is the only successful example of cartoon characters working in a real world situation. Hollywood sees one successful movie like that and tries to recreate its success for decades without understanding the source material.

[@Eidolon1andOnly]

Space Jam worked as well. Even before Roger Rabbit was Mary Poppins which did an exceptional job of blending animation with live action.

[@fredhurst2528]

I would pit The Incredible Mr. Limpet with Roger Rabbit and even above it in many ways.

[@choreomaniac]

Bedknobs and broomsticks had a good scene too underwater.

[@LucyWest370]

Excuse me sir did you forget the cinematic masterpiece that is the first Garfield movie?

[@bubblegum9826]

The only funny thing in the entire movie was when the couple enters the hotel and the groom is holding spike who's barking and he says : I apologize for spike . He's a little animated.

[@Blueflag04]

the only part i laughed was Jackie screaming when he first showed up

[@williamgrey9499]

Who framed Roger rabbit was the best fusion of cartoon and real life. The story line was amazing and still they brought in the classic gags and made them funny as ever.

[@Shiirow]

it feels like they knew they had a shitty hotel comedy so they added Tom & Jerry into it in a sad attempt to salvage the script. and write off any criticism as "its just a kids movie".

[@casicyber9842]

i wonder when movie studios will make an actual animated movie instead of just people actors with "animated" characters

[@scrittle]

I wonder when the writers would stop basing their story on market research and come up with something that doesn't need thousands of bells and whistles

[@AlexReynard]

"What kid wants to watch Kayla walking around talking to people?" [PTSD from the Smurfs movie intensifies]

[@mikadosannoji553]

i watched that movie a million times yet i dont remember this scene i feel like a absolute baby

[@lick816]

@@mikadosannoji553 I don't remember any scene from that movie tbh, I even forgot the movie existed until this comment.

[@heliusuniverse7460]

mom, i just wanna see -insert cartoon character here- in new york. that would be really funny!

[@lunarcorpse]

I enjoyed the Smurfs movie. The Tom and Jerry movie, however, was just awful.

[@Featuring_Dinty_From_Beef_Stew]

For a high-budget film, the CGI legit looks like something straight out of a Wii game.

[@evanshsedani1575]

I hope you understand how hard animating actually is

[@Featuring_Dinty_From_Beef_Stew]

@@evanshsedani1575 And? Just because animating is a hard job doesn't automatically give a shit animator of a a high budget film or show a special pass. There's a shit ton of high budget/amazing projects with legitimately good animation - that probably had blood, sweat, and tears into it - but ohh, the animators worked really hard on his film and that's all that matters

[@brook_river]

@@evanshsedani1575 "cgi" encompasses more than just the animation also pity is an ill-advised way to approach artistic critique

[@evanshsedani1575]

@@Featuring_Dinty_From_Beef_Stew it's not the animators fault that the directors were stupid. They were doing their job. And for a kids movie the animation looks great

[@brook_river]

@@evanshsedani1575 I think "for a kid's movie" is kind of condescending to kid-oriented entertainment, isn't it? Other studios have already demonstrated what kind of art is possible within that space. I absolutely agree that we should cut the artists some slack; they just the workers. But I wouldn't use that to defend the terrible result, more to bemoan the hard work and talent put into garbage entertainment.

[@HaxTheCharizard]

"Making Tom and Jerry into a full length film isn't easy to do" I 100% agree, but considering that they have done it successfully several times before (and in full animation) this movie was an entire disappointment

[@kaitlynhall2112]

My daughter was all excited to see this. She’s loved Tom and jerry since she was a toddler. 10 minutes in and she said “this is bad. I want to watch scooby doo now.” She’s 7 and knew the movie was shit

[@indexwell6546]

Damn

[@Blueflag04]

im 22 and somehow manage to watch till the end

[@THESLlCK]

Remember when Tom and Jerry was a hand-painted, hand-animated, well thought out show that entertained several generations? Well now we're here. All things really do break down over time.

[@kamanashiskar9203]

Tom and Jerry is 81 years (born February 10th, 1940) and has been going strong (at least with its shorts). I don't want this stupid movie to ruin it.

[@THESLlCK]

@@kamanashiskar9203 This stupid movie won't ruin it, especially if we all start buying the classics on DVD and download, just to show them how much we love the classics

[@garycuomo9642]

The best thing to come out of this movie were the two new shorts released on HBO max.

[@esaunders07]

The classic "don't even watch it to see how bad it is." The *ultimate* insult. Very nice. 15:21

[@thisguyispeculiar]

The only cartoon I genuinely loved watching an a kid was Tom and Jerry and frankly the movie felt awesome to me. I loved the picturisation, the innumerable references to original episodes, the characters and the simple story. They have to add some sort of a real life character to make it what it should be, a family movie. So that both adults and kids can understand the story and relate to it in some way. The story needed a character to tie the humans and animals together. Just watching a weak attempt at an only Tom and Jerry film showing 1 hour+ of them fighting and becoming friends in the end wouldn't have been fun. I like slapstick comedy a lot but a movie with just that would never work. You need a story, characters of all sorts to balance it out. As a fan, I only cared about the characters and how much nostalgia they brought to me. I don't care about the colour saturation, animation style, etc because these things change and will continue to change with time. The movie was one of my personal favorites I've seen in a while. It's just my opinion ofc.

[@XxGavinRMxX]

Its pretty funny that michael pena called chloe grace moretz a millennial when shes part of gen Z

[@Chaos_867]

No..

[@LCamm]

@@Chaos_867 yes

[@oWatson]

Want a good Tom & Jerry movie? Look into Tom & Jerry: The Fast and the Furry

[@Zulk_RS]

That's my favorite Tom & Jerry movie... I realize it's not a high bar to clear but it really is a good fun movie.

[@endertobias1908]

I love that movie. We used to watch it every road trip. Good times

[@nestword5654]

yeah, that film was amazing

[@kamanashiskar9203]

Or even Tom and Jerry and Sherlock Holmes 2010.

[@Leader7353]

It is amazing, but honestly? Every other Tom and Jerry movie is better. My personal favorite was the one with the magic ring Edit: with 'better' I mean 'better than this remake'

[@dingle2987]

“A completely timeless show.” Mammy two-shoes comes in and beats Tom.

[@kamanashiskar9203]

She was actually removed because it was thought of as "racist".

[@temjinAMG]

I’m always liked her, too bad América is snowflake land lol

[@laurene988]

I never understood how she was supposed to be racist. I always loved when she's show up

[@chachwa9970]

@@laurene988 what was racist about it and how is that racist who didn’t laugh when a human came in and started beating the crap out of Tom for hurting jerry or ruining a house

[@laurene988]

@@chachwa9970 yeah exactly I don't get how it was racist at all

[@RJ_Ehlert]

If someone were to try and create a film that appeals to millennials, I'm not sure a story about a character falling upwards into success while being surrounded by chaotic forces wrecking things beyond their control but having no negative effect on them, not sure if that's the story to do it.

[@OrbitalSnapshots2455]

I'm not that surprised the way it turned out, idk why, but I knew something was up the moment I saw a snippet.

[@Vonn_Loren]

👏🏼The 👏🏼oldest 👏🏼Millennials 👏🏼 are👏🏼 turning👏🏼 40 👏🏼years 👏🏼old 👏🏼this 👏🏼year! 👏🏼 Can we stop being used as shorthand for "entitled children" sometime soon? (I would love to see a video on Laurel and Hardy, btw)

[@sadtitties222]

THANK 👏 YOU 👏 !

[@_ikako_]

"entiltled children" who inherited a housing crisis, financial crisis, ecological destruction caused by previous generations and now a global pandemic. i think we have every right to be a little bit entitled occasionally.

[@thethrashyone]

​@@_ikako_ >occasionally More like "all the time, constantly". You know, what I admire about previous generations is that they were taught about personal accountability; that even if your current life circumstances aren't entirely your fault, it is still YOUR responsibility and YOURS ALONE to improve your situation because nobody's going to hand anything to you on a silver platter. And thanks to modern technology, you live in what is objectively the most cushy period in human history. You ain't got shit to complain about compared to people who had to live through, for example, the Great Depression.

[@_ikako_]

@@thethrashyone that's part of the problem, blaming it all on the individual, and not acknowledging that there are systemic issues in place preventing people from just getting a good job, getting married and having kids, buying a house etc, etc. Plus I don't think any of the current generations lived through the great depression

[@LeRodz]

@@thethrashyone Different generations face different problems. Sure, they live in a more comfortable period in time, doesn't mean their genuine complaints aren't valid. But i partially agree, nobody should expect constant help from anyone. If people want the world to change, they got to work.

[@randompeculiarintrovert8446]

I just want to see Tom and Jerry slap stick for TWO hours. Is that too much to ask for?

[@Sparkle__Punk]

I dont know if you've seen it, but to me the 1997 film "Mouse Hunt" does a good job of being a slapstick live action film. The plot is ridiculous and campy, but I think it works with the overall slapstick cartoonish vibe of the whole film (despite having no cartoons in it)... I'd be very curious to hear your take on the film!

[@LegoReader12345hello]

I love that movie

[@Mr_Fancypants]

A underrated classic

[@coltonk.3086]

That movie was great

[@noname-kx4cu]

Yeees!

[@rudraparapuranjaya2393]

Man I still watch Tom and Jerry it was my entire childhood, hot sunny day, grape juice in hand chilling in front of my black and white TV watching Tom and Jerry back when I was like 7 or 8 years old

[@H2OHydraulic]

Wait wtf, I didn't even know there was a Tom & Jerry movie.