Why UFC Fighters Are Broke - Documentary

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Blood Sport Films

Blood Sport Films

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@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching, and a BIG THANK YOU to everyone commenting on the subject. Fighter pay isn't a straightforward issue, and I'm glad many of you recognize that this documentary was made to be unbiased. I do highlight a positive side of Dana White at the end-love him or hate him, he built the sport we love so much, so credit to him! The next video will be about Robert Whittaker. Stay tuned!
@javybeaz3236
@javybeaz3236 5 ай бұрын
They leave the UFC with nothing. Bad injuries. CTE , no money. No pension, No insurance just Dana Whites foot out they door . thanks for the billions snuka
@javybeaz3236
@javybeaz3236 5 ай бұрын
Dana white and the owners STOLE it all. Dana got 500 million in the bank. Ortiz, Chuck, BI Penn, Counture have 500 bucks on the bank. Most of the new fighters same chet
@CmdrSoCal
@CmdrSoCal 5 ай бұрын
The occult establishment built and owns the ufc. That is why it is no1. White is a hoto frontman.
@publicenemy1238
@publicenemy1238 5 ай бұрын
The most inaccurate and misleading documentary 🥱
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms 5 ай бұрын
@@publicenemy1238 cry 🤣🤣
@coltfromda806
@coltfromda806 5 ай бұрын
I worked at a Walmart with a UFC fighter named Joseph Sandoval in 2012 and at the time he was top 7 in the bantamweight division. Still working at a Walmart. It showed me they really make no money at all.
@lareau6
@lareau6 5 ай бұрын
Patrick cote was still in the canadian army when he faced aderson silva on a saturday and he showed up on monday.
@yuneedtoeat5600
@yuneedtoeat5600 5 ай бұрын
Joseph Sandoval never won a fight in the ufc. Made 2 appearances. Both first round KO/TKO losses
@coltfromda806
@coltfromda806 5 ай бұрын
@@yuneedtoeat5600 never said there were 30 guys in the bantamweight at that time. I think 7 was it and buddy made the appearances.
@yuneedtoeat5600
@yuneedtoeat5600 5 ай бұрын
Kudos to him for even making it that far. Just not a great example for fighter pay especially with your wording
@coltfromda806
@coltfromda806 5 ай бұрын
@@yuneedtoeat5600 you’d think it’d still be enough to not have to come back to Walmart for $12/hr
@mistergoodcitizen9914
@mistergoodcitizen9914 6 ай бұрын
At the very least they should allow them to have their own sponsors again. If they’re truly independent contractors then their sponsors shouldn’t matter to you they are their own brand at that point.
@vomitkermit3446
@vomitkermit3446 6 ай бұрын
Agreed
@saucegotti9416
@saucegotti9416 6 ай бұрын
I agree. But it does look better with no sponsors
@JakeThom18363
@JakeThom18363 6 ай бұрын
Its not even a look thing anymore. They could have criteria and other ways for making it more appealing. But how much money does Endeaver lose in assets annually for no longer offering big name companies big advertisements exclusive that doesn't often have a competitor on the same card.
@Trucker231610
@Trucker231610 6 ай бұрын
They can have their own sponsors. The only stipulation is The walk to the cage, inside the cage, and the walk from the cage. SO they have all of fight week to do press displaying their sponsor. They can also do TV ads year around. Watching this video shows the UFC is taking care of the fighters way better than any other promotion including 80% of boxers.. So y'all idiots get off the band wagon and look at the facts.
@jasonstuart2815
@jasonstuart2815 6 ай бұрын
​@Trucker231610 yes but a sponser pays 10x the amount to wear it while fighting compared to pre fight/post fight
@boardammo1593
@boardammo1593 4 ай бұрын
UFC is the worst. The only smart guy was Fedor rustled Dana's panties by not signing 🤣 Also Ngannou was very smart too, got what he was worth by leaving
@grimgoreironhide9985
@grimgoreironhide9985 4 ай бұрын
Fedor may not have made a mistake with Dana but he made worse mistakes. He pissed of Kadyrov and his daughter got beaten up by a Chechen goons. I don’t think anyone in this business leaves unscathed.
@californiarollwithramensea8220
@californiarollwithramensea8220 3 ай бұрын
Tito got his ass too.
@abdu7095
@abdu7095 3 ай бұрын
Meanwhile in some porn sites, you can make a video of you sniffing panties, make it a premium video and make money from it
@2K9s
@2K9s 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, nobody is forcing anyone to fight for the ufc.
@anthonychanning3954
@anthonychanning3954 3 ай бұрын
True word, brother
@donjohnson3873
@donjohnson3873 6 ай бұрын
I would never recommend a kid to aspire to be a professional fighter. The money is absolutely not worth the risk. Use the same efforts somewhere else.
@V-RADIO
@V-RADIO 5 ай бұрын
I tend to think about this sometimes when I am watching the Ultimate Fighter. You hear these moving stories about how they need this for their family or whatever but it's a horrible way to take care of your family.
@donjohnson3873
@donjohnson3873 5 ай бұрын
@@V-RADIO you can work a fraction as hard as these kids do and support a family.
@NazriBuang-w9v
@NazriBuang-w9v 4 ай бұрын
Lies again? Fight Pass USD SGD
@ainz2579
@ainz2579 2 ай бұрын
exactly why the hw division is so fucking ass. no human with elit genes is gonna waste themselves getting punched in the head for no money
@Snowforest60
@Snowforest60 2 ай бұрын
No the money isn’t worth it in the ufc when Mighty Mouse got traded to one championship he made 10x more money in 3 fights than he made in all his ufc fights combined
@vipermikem1
@vipermikem1 6 ай бұрын
“I’m gonna drink a Coors Light….thats a Coors Light because Bud Light won’t pay me nothing!” Brock Lesnar saying the quiet part out loud 15 years ago
@MartinJefferies-j1d
@MartinJefferies-j1d 6 ай бұрын
Best line ever! I remember Brock saying that at I believe UFC 200 - the only UFC I ever paid to watch.
@jdbankshot
@jdbankshot 5 ай бұрын
he should've said miller lite, coors light is probably the worst beer on earth.
@YouPulledOnIt
@YouPulledOnIt 4 ай бұрын
​@@jdbankshotNo way. Dude, you must have bumped your head. Coors Light is as cold and as smooth as the Rockies❤🏔🗻. The can marker turns blue when it's cold 🥶 💙. You're wrong, dude. Coors Light tastes better than Miller Lite and Bud Light all day.
@jdbankshot
@jdbankshot 4 ай бұрын
@@YouPulledOnIt all 3 of those are terrible beers. an insult to real beer drinkers.
@deathlarsen7502
@deathlarsen7502 3 ай бұрын
@@jdbankshot figures you drink tranny juice
@Aristotelezz
@Aristotelezz 4 ай бұрын
The best thing Francis Ngannou has ever done were his boxing fights with Fury and Joshua. It made him about 30 million dollar. In the UFC it would take him as champion about 30 fights to make that money.
@jamesstalin5871
@jamesstalin5871 3 ай бұрын
I agree with your point but he'd have 30 million way before he'd done 30 title defences. More like 10 - 12
@tiorofioro-jd4bs
@tiorofioro-jd4bs 2 ай бұрын
He is an amazing person and I'm really happy he got paid. F the UFC
@TheDXJC56
@TheDXJC56 2 ай бұрын
@@jamesstalin5871 The UFC was offering him like 8-9 million so no after 2-3 fights with PPV he easily would've cleared the same amount without completely destroying his legacy in the process with those boxing fights
@stackbundles718
@stackbundles718 2 ай бұрын
@@TheDXJC56 How did he destroy his legacy lmfao. He went into boxing for money everyone knows that. What he did in MMA is completely separate.
@rst9649
@rst9649 26 күн бұрын
The two events happened in Saudi Arabia, where the government spends a lot to attract big fights, often losing money to pay the fighters extra. They can do this because of oil wealth. It's ironic that Francis is all about treating fighters with respect while gladly taking money from a country criticized for its poor human rights record and its treatment of women, who face many restrictions.
@dragomatinov2720
@dragomatinov2720 6 ай бұрын
Basically, UFC pay top 1% and the rest of the 99% are screwed
@umarrazvi
@umarrazvi 6 ай бұрын
But thats also life no?
@atorres59
@atorres59 6 ай бұрын
just like casino does
@bubbakushii
@bubbakushii 6 ай бұрын
Just like boxing
@FlipNasty1
@FlipNasty1 6 ай бұрын
Just like life... so what
@bryantsmead4787
@bryantsmead4787 6 ай бұрын
😢 feel so bad!
@sk8punk318
@sk8punk318 6 ай бұрын
RIP Bonner, true warrior and pioneer
@SoyMarina
@SoyMarina 6 ай бұрын
Bonnar.
@tmzz3609
@tmzz3609 6 ай бұрын
He died of a fentanyl overdose not because the UFC didn't pay him enough
@yaboyreege7158
@yaboyreege7158 6 ай бұрын
@@tmzz3609no one said anything about how he died. He was in one of the most impactful fights of all time. Use your brain
@HighSideHustler811
@HighSideHustler811 6 ай бұрын
@@tmzz3609he said absolutely nothing too do with him besides rip, and you then toss his addiction and struggle into it? Wow , dirtbag comment of the month, maybe even the year so far 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@starfleetcommander
@starfleetcommander 6 ай бұрын
@@tmzz3609 I think its a prescription pain ki11er. He was probably on oxy for years...
@beautybyhammerllc
@beautybyhammerllc 6 ай бұрын
So the moral of the story is health care is way too expensive
@jscarpa2002
@jscarpa2002 4 ай бұрын
US government- We agree with that message.
@duckmercy11
@duckmercy11 3 ай бұрын
How much does it cost?
@jscarpa2002
@jscarpa2002 3 ай бұрын
@@duckmercy11 12555 in America per person. Next highest is Switzerland at 5 k a head. And it keeps getting lower. Why’s our healthcare 4 times more expensive than the rest of the world?
@duckmercy11
@duckmercy11 3 ай бұрын
@@jscarpa2002 Is that annually or monthly?
@jscarpa2002
@jscarpa2002 3 ай бұрын
@@duckmercy11 Annually. And Countries like Germany, France, Sweden. In other words wealthy countries. The price is less and in many cases the care and wait times are better. Idk I hear most Americans complain about getting taxed for it. But everyone I have met that is from one of those countries thinks its worth it and they're glad they don't have to stress out about paying for a medical procedure.
@curturweider9473
@curturweider9473 6 ай бұрын
I am 61 years old are used to watch all the sports but now the only sport watches UFC it really really really pisses me off that these people are sacrificing and risking their life for pennies in reality
@JamesDavisakaRemguy
@JamesDavisakaRemguy 6 ай бұрын
Hey, I’M 61 years old and only watch MMA. But I’m not sure I still think the fighters are underpaid. To be honest, I’m not 100% sure I really understand what the takeaway was from this video. Seemed to me that they were saying the UFC pays pretty well. Anyway, I just love the game. If I had to do it all over again, I’m pretty sure I would give MMA a try. But, alas, that ship has sailed... ...had a grease fire, an outbreak, and a mutiny, THEN hit the iceberg and sank.
@stephenbartlett1167
@stephenbartlett1167 6 ай бұрын
I’m 72 and it pisses me off too
@Sean-zz2lj
@Sean-zz2lj 6 ай бұрын
I’m 37 and I really don’t give a sh!t, they couldn’t care less about me and what I make or if I risk my life in a dangerous job so why would I care or any fan for than matter?
@titoorellana871
@titoorellana871 5 ай бұрын
Yea but you still watch it
@tumalditamadresita
@tumalditamadresita 5 ай бұрын
I couldn't care less
@jakechambers1910
@jakechambers1910 6 ай бұрын
As a contractor myself, the main and nearly only problem i see with ufc pay is that they are not paid a cent for their exclusivity, I subcontract for one person , if a better offer come in i can leave and take that work and if someone wanted to lock me into a exclusive contract I'd want to be compensated with either lump sum,extra % per job or a wage like payment. I feel if the fighters come together to fix this one thing, it solves almost all problems with fighter pay
@gmy33
@gmy33 6 ай бұрын
Yep you are right
@Day-ZDuke
@Day-ZDuke 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately it’s not a comparable situation, cause UFC has all the leverage, they don’t need to pay extra to someone for their “exclusivity” You as a contractor, there are a ton of potential employers for you. As a fighter, there is only really one employer, at least only one that most fighters want to work for. And that’s UFC In the MMA industry, $9 out of every $10 earned is earned by the UFC. They have a huge monopoly on the industry, and the UFC brand is by far the best brand So, the fighters want to be employed by UFC. So UFC doesn’t really have to “sweeten the deal” so to speak. This is the core problem of the whole industry. UFC can get away with low payouts cause there is no competition to force change, fighters really have no where else to go that offers what the UFC offers in terms of opportunity / becoming a star
@drno87
@drno87 2 ай бұрын
A lot of places use "contractor" as a code word for "employee without benefits".
@TheDXJC56
@TheDXJC56 2 ай бұрын
The other problem is fighters will never come together like how you're saying because they're all inherently willing to step over each other to get the bag, people forget because Usman VS Masvidal still happened when it was supposed to, but that was originally Usman VS Burns because the UFC didn't wanna pay Masvidal what he was asking and Burns was willing to be a scab and take a fraction for a title fight, if Burns didn't get COVID the week of Masvidal wouldn't have gotten paid what he did or have fought Usman on fight island, it's a pefect example of the crabs in a bucket mentality all fighters share, if one gets too far ahead the others will drag them back down while trying to claw their own way to financial stability
@robinabernathy2829
@robinabernathy2829 6 ай бұрын
"If you're in business with me, don't tell me no" That sounds like a superiority, inferiority relationship if anything.
@ChrisFranco
@ChrisFranco 6 ай бұрын
That quote was taken out of context. He was talking about being able to bring ideas to life.
@scumbagjesus999
@scumbagjesus999 6 ай бұрын
How a pimp talks to his women 😂
@oldtimer5316
@oldtimer5316 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like P. Diddy!
@smoothcast6940
@smoothcast6940 Жыл бұрын
Wow ,! You actually showed both sides. In my opinion, the only thing I don't like is how much they pay fighters for their first fights. If they give new fighters 20k and 20k. There are no more fighter pay problems. Because in my opinion, fighters, during their first fights, are in most need for money, because that extra 5k or 8k means a better fight camp or a dietitian. There's a problem with journalists who claim to be unbiased, notoriously, Ariel helwani. That guy always use fighters to shit on the UFC and especially Dana white.
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms Жыл бұрын
That is such a great point, yes I agree the new fighters should get more since a camp can cost a lot of money. And yeah mma journalism needs improvement. The thing is, they know all of this stuff and even more but their job isn't always about the truth its about selling stories, some sad stuff really.
@PinvinoPiggg
@PinvinoPiggg 6 ай бұрын
Yes, he shits on Dana and the ufc more than others but honestly there is truth in what he says. I agree journalism should be unbiased but fighters in the ufc should get more not only the stars should be payed accordingly.
@stefan2005stefan
@stefan2005stefan 6 ай бұрын
cos dana is evil.
@kennethmortensen8159
@kennethmortensen8159 6 ай бұрын
Mighty mouse earning 200000 at the most is RIDICOULESS! Derrick lewis makes 400000 everytime he goes in the octagon.
@unknowntrapper2330
@unknowntrapper2330 5 ай бұрын
Wasn’t selling tickets he was boring
@libertarian4323
@libertarian4323 5 ай бұрын
People would rather see the big boys duke it out than a guy who is 5'3".
@OldManNutcakez
@OldManNutcakez 5 ай бұрын
Bantamweights dont pack the seats. Heavyweights do. And Mighty Mouse's personality appeals to a minority of the fans.
@thememeconnoisseur4088
@thememeconnoisseur4088 5 ай бұрын
​@@unknowntrapper2330It's not about ticket sales, though. Peak Pitbull and Holly don't draw as much as peak Aldo and Tony Ferguson, yet the pay difference was still worse for Aldo and Tony, even someone as with insane longevity such as Dominic Cruz is still making less than 200k per fight
@theforce5191
@theforce5191 5 ай бұрын
It is about sales. Even Dana said it with Nate "hes not a needle mover." After he fought connor, he said,"He's a needle mover now."​ Nates pay went up after that. Dj didnt atract the fans (the majority, which matters more) so he got paid less. Is it a coincidencethat Ronda got paid more thanany other woman and most other fighters? No. Same wirh connor, even cowboy thanked him for fighting because his paycheck was much larger. Ifc is a business and the fighters shouldnt get paid more if theyre not bringing in more money. Is ufc fair? I believe theyre not being that fair, but thats their business and if they domt like it, they can go to the other promotions @thememeconnoisseur4088
@liamsanchez629
@liamsanchez629 7 ай бұрын
i was expecting to just watch 2 minutes of this documentary. I ended up watching the WHOLE thing!! Mad love and huge respect to the dudes who put this together. Great doc!!
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms 7 ай бұрын
Im glad you liked it! The dudes is actually just one guy, me 😅 stick around, Max Holloway documentary coming out in the next few days
@liamsanchez629
@liamsanchez629 7 ай бұрын
@@bloodsportfilms count me in my guy. I'll be there.
@That90sShow
@That90sShow 6 ай бұрын
Wow!!! You committed 30 minutes of your busy life!! Amazing!
@antwanthorogood4921
@antwanthorogood4921 5 ай бұрын
@@That90sShowsometimes the thumbnails and title is intriguing but then it’s a boring watch. So it checks out
@TheInvisibleMan420
@TheInvisibleMan420 6 ай бұрын
Moral of the story: don't fight for a living.
@Haruthelast
@Haruthelast 5 ай бұрын
Sometimes it's the only way b, speaking for myself.
@dangrimes5078
@dangrimes5078 4 ай бұрын
​@@HaruthelastThat can't be right. If you are strong enough to fight there are many trades you could be doing. If you are really ambitious you can learn a trade and then start your own business. I know some very successful people who have done just that.
@Kuala-mc1mk
@Kuala-mc1mk 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely true 👍
@diarmuidodyna9398
@diarmuidodyna9398 3 ай бұрын
Or if u do, do boxing
@blaceproffer3351
@blaceproffer3351 3 ай бұрын
@@dangrimes5078im doing that as we speak, and trying to fight💪🏼 ill be damned if im gonna fight in my 40s cuz i dont have any other skills to pay the bills
@joehisel5966
@joehisel5966 7 ай бұрын
It's odd Dana smash boxing over Bowe throwing his belt in the trash when Conor essentially did the same thing with two belts.
@wheelchairmanjon
@wheelchairmanjon 3 күн бұрын
Dana tries to subtract from boxing to add to the UFC never mind the fact there are two completely different sports and you can enjoy both. I don’t enjoy MMA but you could enjoy both.
@Nautilus1972
@Nautilus1972 6 ай бұрын
The UFC has 300 fighters. 5% are stars.
@FlipNasty1
@FlipNasty1 6 ай бұрын
The entitlement is a new generation thing... not everyone is marketable... it's also the fight game... gotta fight to be the best.. don't sign the CONTRACT then
@patrickp8315
@patrickp8315 6 ай бұрын
How many people play basketballs and how many became NBA stars? That's life. Not everyone can be a star.
@melkhanya
@melkhanya 6 ай бұрын
​@@FlipNasty1 It's not Fight and get paid it's sell tickets and get paid
@ghplayer1992
@ghplayer1992 6 ай бұрын
Exactly no stars at all
@goonerbear8659
@goonerbear8659 5 ай бұрын
​@@patrickp8315 Difference being the nature of a team game vs that of 1v1 combat. In a team game, you can play a role, not be a star, and still make a healthy living being someone who props up the star. In 1v1 combat sports, if you're a fighter, there's no bench. There's no propping up another guy. You're the guy.
@arthurkim7670
@arthurkim7670 6 ай бұрын
Chilling when she says “Tony Ferguson”
@pittsburghbob69
@pittsburghbob69 6 ай бұрын
You can tell that made it real and she didn’t want to say his name. Talk about last resort. And still, he hasn’t revived any major psychological help(at least publicly). I can’t imagine it all of a sudden just got better. Just better at hiding it.
@Arahsure
@Arahsure 6 ай бұрын
​@@pittsburghbob69I seen him on Rampages pod recently and he still seemed a bit out there..even for Tony.. I really hope the best for him. It really wasn't that long ago he was on a 12 fight win streak..and (mostly) loved by the fans. I remember hearing that phone call before and I agree with your take..she didn't want to do that..must be awful.
@fernandojr8436
@fernandojr8436 6 ай бұрын
El cucuy
@frikkievarkpiel5854
@frikkievarkpiel5854 5 ай бұрын
I thought she would say ''Steven Seagal''
@dangrimes5078
@dangrimes5078 4 ай бұрын
​@@pittsburghbob69It can only get worse unfortunately.
@AlanSmith88888
@AlanSmith88888 8 ай бұрын
Great documentary that shows both sides. This deserves SO many more views.
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms 8 ай бұрын
Thanks brother!
@bushidothedon
@bushidothedon 6 ай бұрын
True, love that it showed both sides
@Electronicsflippa
@Electronicsflippa 6 ай бұрын
People dont realize the severity of signing a contract. The promotion has you by the balls. Unless you're Conor, jones, gsp or jorge to name a few.
@brock8396
@brock8396 6 ай бұрын
But if you don't like it, don't sign it. That's why it's called a negotiation
@crazypato3752
@crazypato3752 6 ай бұрын
They also got grabbed by the b*lls. Remember when Conor was frustated that the UFC didn't give him fights
@Matt-cr4vv
@Matt-cr4vv 6 ай бұрын
The idea of a promotion investing to build the name and brand of a fighter they don’t have over a longer period of time to see a return on is fairly silly, hence why all the major promotions operate that way. Even in boxing that idea of full freedom doesn’t really exist.
@zomgoose
@zomgoose 5 ай бұрын
@@brock8396 can not negotiate with a company that is a monopoly, unless there is a union
@sloaiza81
@sloaiza81 5 ай бұрын
Nope. JJ is unhappily tied up too. gps had to fight his contract out. Only Conor, Ronda, and gimmick acts like Brock and that other wrestler get good contracts.
@Liquidhandshake97
@Liquidhandshake97 Жыл бұрын
Because Dana White wants to play $600,000 a hand at blackjack in vegas.....
@Nautilus1972
@Nautilus1972 6 ай бұрын
You think he plays cards with his bosses money?
@ChristopherWhite-j4f
@ChristopherWhite-j4f 6 ай бұрын
What a tool Dana is a scumbag
@joedimaggio1259
@joedimaggio1259 6 ай бұрын
What boss
@Matt-cr4vv
@Matt-cr4vv 6 ай бұрын
@joedimaggio1259 Ari Emmanuel, the Board of Directors, the financial duty owed by operating in the best financial interest of the shareholders considering the UFC is part of a publicly traded company and so on. So I know people love spinning that yarn that none of the UFC fighters get paid anything and that it’s all flowing over to Dana as the nefarious thief taking the pot because it sure is a much cooler story than the boring realities that have been stated endlessly by essentially everybody ever involved with the UFC that push against the narrative in so many ways about fighter pay and the boring basic fundamentals of operating a business that actually has an obligation of operating in a fashion that has a chance of reaching a profit and providing a return to shareholders. For one people often make their argument simply looking at the reported payouts from athletic commission disclosures despite it being long established that fighters almost always earn more than the disclosures indicate since the disclosures disclosure have never reflected any of the bonus pay fighters earned which is often well above their show/win money would get disclosed. Or court document showing exact amounts higher name fighters earned prior to the endeavor sale that was disclosed as $500K but was actually $5-6M. Or even Dana being such a greedy bastard that prior to the sale that stopped it paid a fighter like Liddell $400K a year to hold a BS job to try to help him remain retired to protect his health. But everybody loves to argue by using the minority of top paid boxers who earn absurd guarantees for PPV cards that end up losing huge sums of money to the point that the long standing providers of boxing for decades have exited the sport entirely and almost all major name fighters almost only box in Saudi who will subsidize the immense losses and use that as the standard of the fairness of what UFC fighters earn. The boring reality is only the slim majority of boxers earn the extreme paydays people point to, those events almost always lose huge money, the average fighter in the UFC makes more than the average pro boxer, and surprisingly when you need to profit from your events you can’t guarantee somebody $30M and then sell less than 100K in buys like Ngannou and Fury did and remain in business without somebody subsidizing your endless losses.
@rjftransport2682
@rjftransport2682 6 ай бұрын
What Dana White does with the money he earns is irelevant.. 3 men took the UFC basically from hell and turned it into a Sport and and something thats so far ahead of the fucking game it would take something pretty amazing to even compare.. Its not even an apples and oranges game. 2% of UFC revenue for fighter pay is still more money as a whole than these wonton promotions talkin shit about they pay 50%. ..... 50% of nothing will always be NOTHING!. Do they offer anything else? Ufc offers many diff professional services thru a free World Class Facilty. Those people whom provide those services and therapy dont come w/o a cost. As a business owner. I dont care if you think Dana Whites greedy a dickhead or how you feel. Noone can disrespect him for what its taken from him to put the UFC in a Premier World Class position.. As with anything in life, If you suck, your pay reflects it. If you make a Company revenue you will reap the rewards thru negotiating the right contracts, financially, if you invest and not run thru money living outside of your means" youll be sucessful. This shits all ABC type stuff. The UFC imo falls between Sports/Entertainment category. If you attract the publics eyes,Your loyal to the business,.You build relations, Youll be on top of the heap. Is Mcgregor one of my favs? naw. Has he done alot for mma hell ya and i respect that in him. Has he invested,made wise decisions with his revenue. Of course. Will he ever hurt financially . I dont forsee it. My point is in my rambling is. Not everyone in the fight game wil be sucessful rich and famous. You must plow a path to sucess. I mean literally fuckin plow a path. And Dana White gives back to his fighters and the community in ways others apparently dont pay attention or see simply because its Danas business whether he chooses to discuss it or not. Just remember its a fighters goal to grasp all he can. Its the UFC as a business whos there to do exactly the same. Its not a share your wealth world in business.Dana has numbers ran constantly and i dont believe he will ever risk the UFC as being less than World Class over a few bucks pay or pay lesa than any other promotion pays. The percentage talk is horse shit. 50% sounds great but only is 50% is above the 5% UFC offered. And its not close.. just throwing numbers out there above so no drama . People almost gets locked into positions they really dont want to be in, stop think , weigh out options prior to making yourself miserable or homeless. America offers alternatives, choices, options. Move on if its not cutting it for you personally.
@jblb42
@jblb42 10 ай бұрын
All athletes have to realize that there are inherent risks in their sports, race car driving, fighting, football. So they can’t go back and blame anyone else for that, but I always believed the UFC fighters are getting screwed big time on pay. Especially when the UFC took all their sponsorship deals, that was a dirty ass move. And Dana is a greedy scumbag, he said boxers are overpaid? They wouldn’t put on the promotions if people weren’t making money. The UFC will only pay the fighters the bare minimum that they have to to keep them, and since the other organizations are so small, right now the UFC is the most lucrative fighting organization for the promoters by a long shot. And the performance institute is free for fighters, that is great, but don’t act like you are so benevolent Dana, when you know damn well it is a tax right off, come on!
@javiergonzalez4283
@javiergonzalez4283 7 ай бұрын
Yeah Show Time made so much money huh😂😂 they don’t make enough revenue or sell enough ppvs; they weren’t profitable😂
@daixer3156
@daixer3156 5 ай бұрын
Glad you brought up P.I. Institute. Sure it's free. But that means fighter's have to move and live there. That in itself cost money and where they getting money to pay rent. Vegas ain't cheap!
@lonnylance182
@lonnylance182 4 ай бұрын
That’s a lame excuse and one that lacks any integrity
@july9566
@july9566 3 ай бұрын
Soccer players end up great most of the time
@tquigsmay
@tquigsmay 6 ай бұрын
Dana you need to pay these guys more. You're worth $500M. How can you sleep at night? New young fighters can't afford to fight. Give them a chance. Be fair.
@RaiBread.
@RaiBread. 5 ай бұрын
Lmfaoooooooooooooooooo.... Oooooooooooooo... oooooo. No. Lol
@DragonZombie2000
@DragonZombie2000 5 ай бұрын
Dana isn't the CEO, it's Ari Emmanuel. Its a publicly traded company where an investment group Silver lake management owns 30 percent of the shares. Please educate yourself, it's sad UFC fighters are so financially clueless they think Dana White pays them out of his own pocket
@RaiBread.
@RaiBread. 5 ай бұрын
@DragonZombie2000 thank you lol 😆
@javybeaz3236
@javybeaz3236 5 ай бұрын
Most of them are poor as chet after they leave, And have lots of injuries and the CTE getting WORSE. Dana White got over 500 million in the bank
@basscat2107
@basscat2107 5 ай бұрын
Jeff Bezos is worth 197 billion, yet his delivery employees start out making 15 hours, and they have a better chance of dying on the job. It is a world problem, not a fight world problem only.
@JoeValdez-e6t
@JoeValdez-e6t 6 ай бұрын
The UFC needs to get rid of that reebok contract and let these fighters get their own sponsors. Some fighters lost 6 figures when the UFC signed that contract.
@joshnagel8819
@joshnagel8819 5 ай бұрын
The UFC has used Venom as the gear sponsor for several years. Ditched Reebok long ago.
@BOMBON187
@BOMBON187 3 ай бұрын
This as very well done but its sad that thousands will still take this journey where most fail and end up with physical and mental issues with no other real world applicable skills.
@anthonymartinez4307
@anthonymartinez4307 6 ай бұрын
Long ago I friend of mine use to fight for the ufc. He left after they tried to get him to sign a paper stating that the ufc was not a monopoly. Today we can clearly see that it is. Low pay and no gain. Dana going around bragging about how he gets banned from casinos because he won a million 🙄 but then lost 3, million he actually believed their hype and they got him lol~ fighting for free is not what any sport athlete plays for. Nick Diaz & Nate Diaz had a big name but both fighters combined never made more than mcgregor why is that fair? Let’s be honest today we easily see how ufc fighters have gotten ripped off ( Reebok curtain deal) to further steal money from fighters. Enough said.
@Bob-te3le
@Bob-te3le 6 ай бұрын
Thats why ONE Championship I'm Asia is important. And they coming for the UFC and they make more money than the UFC because Asia is by far the biggest market.
@Bob-te3le
@Bob-te3le 6 ай бұрын
Shoot look the PGA Tour. If you don't make the weekend cut you don't get paid anything at all. Imagine going to work and not getting paid anything. That's why I'm for LIV Golf Tour the more great paying options the better for the athletes.
@TheTraya
@TheTraya 6 ай бұрын
With the release of all the documents around the antitrust lawsuit it feels like this video is now outdated because we have clear facts that show how underpaid they are. And how greedy and controlling the UFC is.
@Bob-te3le
@Bob-te3le 6 ай бұрын
Preach
@jpacampara21
@jpacampara21 9 ай бұрын
This is true unless you're a mcgregor with an entire country paying for your PPVs you're broke because of all the things you need to pay for and time you need to allot to compete. This is why I was stopped by my mother to pursue boxing when she was still alive. I won 10 fights. I only got 1500 philippine pesos and I needed 1500 more to pay more my monthly gym membership also I had to get checked because I had signs of punch drunk. I lost more money because a lot of things go to nutrition, gym fees, cornermen and management. You do it because you love it. Now I'm trying to get back because competing is very thrilling it's like you're a god in there.
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms 9 ай бұрын
man what a story, I wish you all the best my friend!
@HalFraser
@HalFraser 6 ай бұрын
Don’t forget, McGregor really made his most money in a non-UFC boxing match with Mayweather. I think the rumor was that a purse of more than $100 million was paid each fighter. I do t know the economics, I think Dana White allowed McGregor to fight Mayweather, and then promoted the fight and took a cut for himself and or the UFC. It was a pretty amazing financial outcome.
@crazypato3752
@crazypato3752 6 ай бұрын
​@@HalFraseryes, Dana and UFC took a cut off Conor's Paycheck. Francis on the other hand didn't have to give anything to Dana
@stephenbrand5661
@stephenbrand5661 4 ай бұрын
Fighter pay and Dana White's politics are two of the biggest reasons I haven't followed MMA much over the last 10 years, despite being a huge fan before that.
@DineshSingh-ev9ud
@DineshSingh-ev9ud 4 ай бұрын
I literally shed tears inside when Stephan Bonnars clip came. RIP Legend.
@MrElectricSkittles
@MrElectricSkittles 7 ай бұрын
Great doc.. small bit of advise.. turn the background music down
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@harrytgough9101
@harrytgough9101 6 ай бұрын
I agree, it's not too loud, but 10% quieter would be better
@treztrez8660
@treztrez8660 5 ай бұрын
​@@harrytgough9101 stop the hate bro
@FReyes-u2d
@FReyes-u2d 5 ай бұрын
Not hate it's called feedback​@@treztrez8660
@Cerebro-on9sg
@Cerebro-on9sg 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad that you painted a whole picture of the topic and not just a one sided view on it
@rustyshackleford9017
@rustyshackleford9017 3 ай бұрын
They are the highest paid fighters in the world, which is nuts. A tiered salaried position would be awesome. Healthcare, 50k, 75k, 100k, on up dependent on time in and victories. A union is needed. Strikeforce paid my buddy $150 in gas, a hotel room, and $100 casino voucher one time. Cody Mckenzie is a good example, came down from Alaska off fishing boats to fight short notice. He made more fishing 😂
@rushvanhaye8723
@rushvanhaye8723 6 ай бұрын
By far the most honest breakdown I’ve seen on the subject, No BS and plenty of facts to back up the message, great video 👏
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@dannypowell594
@dannypowell594 6 ай бұрын
There were a lot of good points made in this video/short doc that I've never heard nor thought about before. Great content. - new sub
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms 6 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@bishyeahbish3758
@bishyeahbish3758 6 ай бұрын
A very VERY well made video in my opinion. This showed in detail both sides of the fence with just facts instead of opinions and without any biased bs like there usually always is and i thought that was fantastic i really enjoyed this video and I'd love to see more videos of this calibre its important that fact based stuff like this is shown so people can make their own minds up about stuff thats real instead of having to take someone else's opinions on board like how the media usually portrays the stories they're doing and then probably change their minds on it all next week. This is how it should be shown to us....facts....actual factual facts. Shouldn't be too much to ask for imo.
@JamesDavisakaRemguy
@JamesDavisakaRemguy 6 ай бұрын
Well said, mate. This is sadly all too rare. No ready-made opinions, no spin, no left or right wing agendas. As Det. Joe Friday used to say, “Just the facts.” Documentaries should ALL be like this. Well done!
@youssefhamidi8152
@youssefhamidi8152 Жыл бұрын
All of the them should protest and not show up for a major ppv event. Pull a lock out.
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms Жыл бұрын
Very interesting point! So like a strike for a UFC ppv event in order to increase pay?
@youssefhamidi8152
@youssefhamidi8152 Жыл бұрын
@@bloodsportfilms exactly lol i dont think Itll ever happen though
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms Жыл бұрын
​@@youssefhamidi8152 we never know honestly 🤷🏽‍♂️ the NFL players did it in the past maybe the UFC fighters will someday
@KyleDad
@KyleDad Жыл бұрын
That would be so stupid if they did that UFC could cut all the small irrelevant fighters who dared to try to ruin their ppv and where do they go than no where cause they don't have big enough names and all the big fighters would get fined from the UFC for not applying to the ppv that they signed on there own contract and fans wouldn't side with them a small amount will but not the majority remember when Jon Jones refused to fight at ppv and they were forced to cancel it the UFC fans piled on him angrily I like your morals but not the idea a more better solution is fighters to get big in the UFC and when that are huge then threaten to leave so the UFC can offer more expensive payment it what Francis f,ed up on he should taken the Jones fight and than if he won be the biggest and most wanted free agent.
@nicholasjohnston4785
@nicholasjohnston4785 Жыл бұрын
​@@KyleDadngannou still got that fury fight though hes done pretty well in the end
@jackkunkel
@jackkunkel 3 ай бұрын
Music too loud. It overwhelms the dialog. Why do videograpers keep making that same mistake over and over?
@johndicksonkaraoke2554
@johndicksonkaraoke2554 Жыл бұрын
The Ali Act Needs To Be Amended Legislated Into MMA. Former UFC Champion Hall of Fame Randy Couture Is Advocating For It.!
@reginaldmerriweather4713
@reginaldmerriweather4713 6 ай бұрын
But the other promoters they need to do just as good as UFC because will just out bid them
@johndicksonkaraoke2554
@johndicksonkaraoke2554 6 ай бұрын
@@reginaldmerriweather4713 The Bellator President Scott Coker is in Favor of the Ali Act.
@AmberLobry
@AmberLobry 6 ай бұрын
Randy is a dummy and so are you. You capitalized evert word of your post. The Ali Act would ruin MMA as it did boxing.
@stephenbartlett1167
@stephenbartlett1167 6 ай бұрын
Agreed. Fighter pay will go up significantly
@slicingonions4398
@slicingonions4398 6 ай бұрын
The ufc spends millions a year to keep it from coming to mma
@joshuapatrick682
@joshuapatrick682 4 ай бұрын
0:05 also that quote is misleading, what they may or may not specify is that the fighter roster is up 1200% from 2005. So yes they pay more on a whole than they used to, but they’re paying it to more people who have to then pay taxes, then for coaching and fight camps.
@CommandoMaster
@CommandoMaster 4 ай бұрын
Dana treats them like employees
@wheelchairmanjon
@wheelchairmanjon 3 күн бұрын
That is what confuses me. How does Dana White get away with calling them? Independent contractors they sign exclusive contracts with the UFC everything what’s independent?
@beelzebootthecanadiandevil9600
@beelzebootthecanadiandevil9600 6 ай бұрын
Because Dana is greedy. The end.
@Valpremier
@Valpremier 5 ай бұрын
Dana is not greedy. He is strong businessman.
@Day-ZDuke
@Day-ZDuke 5 ай бұрын
...not to defend Dana per se, but it’s not like Dana is the one choosing what to pay people. He’s the frontman, the face, he deals with the fighters, the media, oversees things as a whole But the UFC is a multi-Billion dollar company. They have a whole team of people that assess their assets and expenditures, determine the optimal strategies for maximum profits, weigh risk vs reward, etc, etc.
@brandonchutt312
@brandonchutt312 3 ай бұрын
​@@ValpremierShrewd* businessman
@user-Fight4NY
@user-Fight4NY 3 ай бұрын
He doesn’t even own it
@ifubuildit
@ifubuildit 5 ай бұрын
"This is why they call it a business...... and some it is none of yours." - CS best line ever. Also, that Venum deal is shit. Of course its only good for the brand no one ever heard of.
@DavidGarcia-oi5nt
@DavidGarcia-oi5nt 20 күн бұрын
I'll never understand why mma fans dont want fighters to be properly compensated for their blood sweat tears and years taken off their lives. Crabs in the bucket mentality.
@ShadesColder25
@ShadesColder25 3 күн бұрын
because they are bitter and they think the fighter owes everything to ufc. the fighter could be paid a $100.00 for a fight and get cte brain damage from that fight and mma fans would say "don't complain about the money you're not bigger than the sport." the fans are some of the worst in sports.
@emichin7010
@emichin7010 5 ай бұрын
Dana White controls everything. He’s making millions per event. The fighters are just making thousands. Once you’re no good anymore, you’re discarded like a bottle cap. Dana White ain’t stupid.
@matthew-jy5jp
@matthew-jy5jp 4 ай бұрын
The difference between boxing and the UFC is the promoter works for the fighter in boxing. And in the UFC that role is reversed. So inboxing the promoter is trying to get as much money as he can for his promotion as well as the fighter. It's the opposite in the UFC. The UFC promotion is trying to get as much as it can for the promotion and then it will give to the fighter what it thinks the fighter deserves.
@quintopartido3991
@quintopartido3991 8 ай бұрын
It's just not worth it becoming a UFC fighter. Having to put up with Dana, CTE, cauliflower ears.
@Stick_Chronic
@Stick_Chronic 6 ай бұрын
100% if u fight for a living your either desperate or slightly insane at least
@crazypato3752
@crazypato3752 6 ай бұрын
​@@Stick_Chronicor you can't do an office job without feeling dead inside
@daGoattttttttt
@daGoattttttttt 6 ай бұрын
Good amount of those guys came from a life of poverty and a troubled past, for some it wasn’t much of a choice
@kinidiosodlosios6892
@kinidiosodlosios6892 4 ай бұрын
I never understood why they never made some ear protection when training on the floor
@connorbrown5222
@connorbrown5222 6 ай бұрын
Movie level production documentary. Great Job!
@Surfklone
@Surfklone 5 ай бұрын
Dana is trying to turn the UFC into the NFL. What I mean by that is as much as you may think it is the NFL is not a player driven league like NBA. The shield always comes first. It is crazy that a NFL practice squad guy makes more annually than most UFC champions with virtually none of the risks. But the UFC is a business and no one forced them to sign that contract.
@FNA27601
@FNA27601 12 күн бұрын
The issue is there is no other choice for these fighters aside from the UFC for their skill set and the fact that there is no regulation and how they use contractor laws as a loophole to pay them as less as possible while maintaining their rights to everything sponsorship wise should be criminal. Blaming the little guy is not a solution.
@markfox2043
@markfox2043 6 ай бұрын
Let's be honest, Dana white has a heart. Buisness is buisness but, when u hear Dana get emotional, when u hear of what he donates, hear his voice tone, guys a realist and tbh, I love listening to press conference after ufc and what he has to say. He's direct, and sure will be a hero to more, than an enemy, easy. Look at what the guy has directed, put some respect on his name.
@MF-kr4hf
@MF-kr4hf 3 ай бұрын
He's practically a billionaire, God bless his gigantic heart for donating peanuts.. like what the fuck are you going to offer with healthcare for these guys? Just paying them a fair salary avoids a bunch of bullshit.. Yeah he's got a heart, yeah, healthcare helps, but if they're getting scammed, which we don't know, then they are..
@jamescash887
@jamescash887 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@MF-kr4hfno one is forcing these guys to sign contracts with UFC. They can go try boxing like Ngannou did, PFL, Bellator. Dana is giving the fans what they want because they keep tuning in by the millions. Lastly, funny how you sh*t on a guy for donating money he doesn’t have to because you don’t think it’s enough. My guess is you hate Dana because he is rich so no matter what he donates you will still b*tch. This coming from a guy who probably drops a $5 bill once a year at Christmas in the Salvation Army bucket.
@JK20239
@JK20239 8 ай бұрын
Fighter pay isnt the issue. Its costs of fighting. UFC should pay for the medical tests, food, coaches, travel. All of it went into the fight so why should fighters have to pay to fight. UFC should have some sort of per diem for each fight.
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms 8 ай бұрын
that's a good point, basically provide employee benefits!
@TheTraya
@TheTraya 6 ай бұрын
This is incredibly uninformed
@anthonyensley7200
@anthonyensley7200 6 ай бұрын
​@@TheTrayainform us
@Andrew-un8tx
@Andrew-un8tx 6 ай бұрын
When a fighter is under contract for a fight all their medical expenses are covered. All their travel is covered.
@GaotamGambhir
@GaotamGambhir 6 ай бұрын
So...If they got payed more they could afford all of that
@bombel44
@bombel44 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. I think the reebook/venom deal is the bigges problem. NBA and soccer player havetheir shoe deals, amd it is a lot of money. Fighters involve in a platform like the ufc could be making huge money for sponsors. Maybe UFC could get a cut like 10-20%. I still think the UFC fighters are underpaid.
@johndicksonkaraoke2554
@johndicksonkaraoke2554 Жыл бұрын
Former UFC Champion Randy Couture is Advocating For the Ali Act To Be Amended Legislated Into MMA.
@FighterMindset2024
@FighterMindset2024 8 ай бұрын
UFC back in the day, charged every sponsor 100k to be able to even get a chance to sponsor them on their show.
@Bob-te3le
@Bob-te3le 6 ай бұрын
They are. Remer the biggest UFC Fighter ever McGregor didn't get filthy filthy rich until he did a boxing match. That says it all.
@nickward7251
@nickward7251 6 ай бұрын
There is literally thousands of boxers that are unheard of to the mainstream public even some armchair fans that are making more than most of the top 15 in every weight division of the UFC If Dana white doesn’t change the way things are structured very soon he will loose control of the MMA world
@Bob-te3le
@Bob-te3le 6 ай бұрын
He already is. One Championship in Asia is bigger abd makes more money.
@topdawg182
@topdawg182 5 ай бұрын
The only reason the avg pay for a pro boxer is lower is bc there is thousands of journeymen that dont fight at a high level. The UFC is all elite level MMA guys. If we compare the average pay for ALL PRO BOXERS AND MMA FIGHTERS the average for mma is still significantly lower. Comparing the average pay for the UFC which is ONE PROMOTION to the entire sport of boxing is ridiculous. That would be like comparing the average pay for boxers at matchroom boxing to the entire sport of MMA the average pay for a matchroom promotion boxer is significantly higher than the average ufc pay. We need to stop comparing 1 promotion to an entire sport bc theres is hundreds if not thousands of boxers that aren’t even signed to promotions they just get a weekly check to step in and be a tune up or a build up fight for prospects
@riaddaniels2823
@riaddaniels2823 11 ай бұрын
Nice balanced documentary.
@billblaski9523
@billblaski9523 6 ай бұрын
Us fans, we are so used to seeing the big stars earn millions so we dont ever think about those $50K fight of the night or KO of the night bonuses are literally life-changing money for the fighters lower on the card
@LSgaming201
@LSgaming201 7 ай бұрын
There is a problem with your math. You're getting $160,000 from taking average PPV earning per fighter and just taking 20% of that. It doesn’t work that way. Most fighters never get more than 10 fights. Fighters with less than 10 fights aren't even making $50k a year unless they consistently get Perf. Of the night or Fight of the Night. Almost no one is doing that. Most of the fighters are making very average salaries, or below average salaries to get the shit beat out of them. It's a rough rough life for not a lot of money. This is all without getting into paying managers, trainers, rent, taxes, and healthcare. If you think healthcare premiums are bad, see what it looks like when you get beat up for a living.
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms 7 ай бұрын
I love your point, the truth is it's that it's not so obvious to fix fighter pay. Im not sure myself whats the solution, I would love for them to make more but once they earn more they fight less, look at Khamzat he fights once a year only, he could be making more but he won't just fight anybody since he takes in factor the championship title....which will earn him more money. And thats the average they make when you combine all the fighters together, its not a specific way to explain how much a fighter makes because it depends per individual but its still a metric that can be use to explain the general concept
@LSgaming201
@LSgaming201 7 ай бұрын
@bloodsportfilms Khamzat doesn't fight because he's wanted for questioning in connection with war crimes. He can't fight in any country that will extradite him.
@justme3349
@justme3349 6 ай бұрын
There will always be unhappy employees no matter where you go, it's human nature to want more. This topic would be a mute point had it not been for Dana and the Furtida's resurrecting the sport. They virtually turned a non-existent sport into a world wide phenomenon. I love the fighters and they are the reason I watch the fights, they do not have to sign contracts with the UFC but they do because the UFC comparatively takes care of their fighters better than any alternative fighting organization. I do not know Dana White but I have teared up a few times over some of his acts of kindness and I truly feel he is a boss that cares.
@JerryXM991
@JerryXM991 5 ай бұрын
Yes, he paid that one fighter's rent for a whole year. Probably ten grand at least! 😂 What a fucking joke.
@arcrides6841
@arcrides6841 5 ай бұрын
I'm tearing up too 😂😂
@AlihaSingh
@AlihaSingh 6 ай бұрын
People like to compare boxing revenue. But even in boxing only the main event gets the majority of the revenue. Undercard is severely underpaid.The UFC is an actual company with employees. They have bottom lines. Boxing is standalone per whatever the main event is.
@JustinMiales
@JustinMiales 6 ай бұрын
McGregor isn't broke Dana White isn't broke what is a double standard
@Bob-te3le
@Bob-te3le 6 ай бұрын
McGregor got filthy rich from a boxing match. LOL. And of course Dan'a ain't broke he basically is a co owner of the UFC.
@Entertained45
@Entertained45 6 ай бұрын
I thought DC was going to say they asked for the million back after the Rumble fight lol.
@FireMeUpGuy
@FireMeUpGuy 6 ай бұрын
Great documentary, first time viewer and now subbed. Great pacing and you don't sound like a bot!
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms 6 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@COMBATPULSEMMA
@COMBATPULSEMMA 5 ай бұрын
You straight up lied saying they face legal action for discussing contracts. They face legal action for DISPARAGEMENT, which is lying about something the UFC has said or included in the contract.
@seanmorrison3494
@seanmorrison3494 Жыл бұрын
Dana white lying to us fighters cant speak on there contract it gag clause in there contract UFC only sport that don’t pay enough
@Gheofoil-3
@Gheofoil-3 6 ай бұрын
women athletes everywhere reading this 0_0
@darj617
@darj617 4 ай бұрын
BloodyElbow has done a detailed breakdown of UFC fighter pay based on the civil action lawsuit against Zuffa. Basically, the profit split for the fighters is around 17-18%, where as in most other sports it is closer to 50%. Look at tennis, the ATP tour recently announced a new profit sharing split where fighters who are not in the top 100 are going to be supported more because it is very difficult to cover the costs of travel and training. The UFC has grown so much because they keep a lions share for themselves (the owners). Even the top earners in the UFC like Conor, Jon Jones, Ronda, GSP, Anderson were all underpaid when you consider how many PPVs they helped sell.
@GuardianA-hole
@GuardianA-hole 6 ай бұрын
When UFC video game first came out, some fighters were forced to sell their likeness in perpetuity For $1500 or risk, having their contract. Terminated.
@alexcarter8807
@alexcarter8807 4 ай бұрын
It's really easy to spend a fucton of money in the US. Just before the crash of 08, I'd kept track of my spending and realized I was spending $900 a month on food. This was because I was eating out every meal at "reasonable" places. I started cooking at home and got it down to $250-$300 a month. The trouble is, you start making OK money and a $20 or $30 dinner doesn't seem excessive.
@praditya4610
@praditya4610 6 ай бұрын
Great video Showed insights from both sides Amazing amazing work
@JRBetley32
@JRBetley32 Ай бұрын
When Dana pulled the ability for the fighters to have their own sponsors is when I lost interest in the UFC. Their sponsorships allowed them to supplement what little income the UFC gave them for risking their lives each time they walked into that cage. Dana, Frank, and Lorenzo made a fortune off these guys and threw them scraps.
@saucegotti9416
@saucegotti9416 3 ай бұрын
Wait till yall see how much I make in a warehouse working everyday busting my azz
@PersonPersons-kh3bg
@PersonPersons-kh3bg 3 ай бұрын
UFC fighters are the top fighters in the world. And they’re making less than you due to training costs etc
@kennethhardeman3292
@kennethhardeman3292 2 ай бұрын
Right I’ve got a bad back at 30 from the army, such is life
@aaronwolnowski8326
@aaronwolnowski8326 6 ай бұрын
Great Doc!!! Love that you showed both sides. The main point for me was how Dana takes care of his fighters, let pettis use the PI after he left for his mental health, told Nate whatever you need this is your house, tons of donations to struggling fighters going through issues, the 1-million-dollar surprise checks to fighters even after they lose! Dana is a Legend, and the UFC is beyond a great company.
@paulsmith5611
@paulsmith5611 6 ай бұрын
I remember when Jared Cannonier was interviewed after a fight and said that he was broke and needed more money. He has something like 5 kids, but he is from Dallas, TX where (at the time) the cost of living was lower than many other cities and according to a web search his net worth is estimated at about $1 million. That puts him in the upper class. All the fans who think UFC fighters aren't paid enough need to look at their own paychecks first.
@PersonPersons-kh3bg
@PersonPersons-kh3bg 3 ай бұрын
A google search isn’t reliable
@paulsmith5611
@paulsmith5611 3 ай бұрын
@@PersonPersons-kh3bg No but I doubt a fighter that is headlining a card, especially ppv events, are "broke" compared to the average American.
@PersonPersons-kh3bg
@PersonPersons-kh3bg 3 ай бұрын
@@paulsmith5611 You can’t compare headliners on PPV to the average American. Even then, top 5 guys in the division are paid a Walmart manager salary. These are the top athlete’s in the world. It’s like you get mad at people in the NFL getting more than you so you group fighters in with them… The average salary of an AHL hockey player is higher than the average UFC fighter. These fighters weren’t paid all the years it took training, and won’t be paid after their careers, with a guarantee of brain damage
@tysonbrown1277
@tysonbrown1277 6 ай бұрын
It would be easy to crack down on strikes to a knocked out or tkod opponent. Some guys get hit HARD by the hardest hitters when they are already out cold, that cant be good
@Peacefulwarrior23
@Peacefulwarrior23 7 ай бұрын
Quoting Dana white “the worst thing about fighters is that they get 80% of my money”.
@deankosta6216
@deankosta6216 7 ай бұрын
Wow
@J-xc4pw
@J-xc4pw 6 ай бұрын
I love the sport, but I find it increasingly difficult to support the business. I can’t in good conscience support a business that trade’s profits for a persons well being.
@lrg8737
@lrg8737 3 ай бұрын
Very well done documentary going beyond the headlines, looking at the numbers and providing both sides of the argument!
@Kevin-cs6co
@Kevin-cs6co 6 ай бұрын
How can Dana white pay 50% when he gives the nelk boys 250,000 birthday presents
@bishyeahbish3758
@bishyeahbish3758 6 ай бұрын
The ufc should pay the fighters trainers a set amount so that the fighter can keep the money he's paid instead of having to pay most of it out.
@FlipNasty1
@FlipNasty1 6 ай бұрын
No.. clearly you were born after the 90s
@HR1Prince
@HR1Prince Жыл бұрын
I like this video but question: Where do you factor in the # of fighters? 18% to 578 fighters compared to 50% to 70 fighters is significantly different. That’s often a talking point that is missed. Yes UFC could pay out more to fighters but they also have a significantly larger roster meaning less per fighter regardless. Especially those 1 and done fighters that lose a fight and are tossed aside.
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms Жыл бұрын
The UFC back in 2021 had about the same amount of fighters than Bellator. Close to 500 fighters for each company. This research was made by a reporter where these numbers were taken from legal documents due to their lawsuit. But for those 1 and done fighters thats tough to find out since it can happen in every company. By now the UFC has more fighters tho, Dana mentioned at least 600 a few weeks ago.
@christionanigilaje2555
@christionanigilaje2555 Жыл бұрын
the nil pays about 50% and they have over 1600 players
@AllenOlesen
@AllenOlesen 4 ай бұрын
Fighters need to be the highest paid athletes in the world...
@santos5969
@santos5969 4 ай бұрын
Do you know who else is broke? Me and most people I know....
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms 4 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 GOAT comment!
@PersonPersons-kh3bg
@PersonPersons-kh3bg 3 ай бұрын
You’re not an elite level fighter who spent their whole lives training while not paid.
@joshuapatrick682
@joshuapatrick682 4 ай бұрын
Example 1: Everyone makes a base salary of 72,000 a year. Everyone fights 3 times a year and you get your paycheck for a 4 month period on fight night Or the day after. (every fight you miss you forfeit 4 months equivalent in pay except for cases of injury as determined by the sanctioning body)the number 15 guy makes an extra 50k a year on up to the number 1 contender who makes an extra 500k a year and the division Champion makes 1,000,000 (or more) a year plus PPV points. Locker room bonuses, POTN, FOTN bonuses are still paid out to incentivize skill. The numbers can be tweaked obviously but by golly I think I solved it!
@jeffdollaz
@jeffdollaz Жыл бұрын
RIP BONNAR
@slicingonions4398
@slicingonions4398 6 ай бұрын
Bonnar begged dana to pay to save his life and he didn't. Yet he still says thanks to Bonnar and Forrest for kickstarting his career
@jeffdollaz
@jeffdollaz 6 ай бұрын
@@slicingonions4398 I can’t stand that guy but you reap what you sow
@6AlphaMikeCharlie9
@6AlphaMikeCharlie9 6 ай бұрын
Just look what new boxers earn, They earn less than the UFC fighters. What do expect a fighter nobody knows with like 5 fights, should he be earning 500k?
@jaybee7099
@jaybee7099 6 ай бұрын
Great work
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much 😀
@bradleyhalfacre7992
@bradleyhalfacre7992 3 ай бұрын
The managers walk away with nearly all the money and their brains intact , fighters lose and lose . brains and money.
@MMALLDAY
@MMALLDAY 6 ай бұрын
Great documentary!
@lawrencemaweu
@lawrencemaweu 6 ай бұрын
Some of these dudes fight once or twice a year. Tyson was fighting monthly when he was starting out
@varen9112
@varen9112 6 ай бұрын
Pay controversy aside, Dana earned my respect when he stood against the cancel culture and fraudulent Pharma companies during Covid.
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms 6 ай бұрын
Amen
@billblaski9523
@billblaski9523 6 ай бұрын
Its such a shame too, my opinion MMA is more fun to watch than boxing, but more fighters are gonna go to boxing cus it pays hell alot morw
@vincentcrowley5196
@vincentcrowley5196 5 ай бұрын
Look at it this way, McGregor fighting Mayweather and Ngannou fighting Tyson Fury and AJ earned more for their boxing than their whole UFC careers.
@earnyourgold
@earnyourgold 11 ай бұрын
Fighters aren’t underpaid. Jalin Turner just made around $200,000 in a few minutes because he was willing to take a fight short notice and has the style & skill to earn a Performance of the Night bonus. Guys want to fight 1-2 times a year, be boring, get too out of shape outside of a camp, don’t want to start a gym, remain one-dimensional strikers so now they’re scared to take a short notice fight with a grappler, and still want to live super comfortably. So many ways to make money just with “UFC Fighter” attached to your name. Sell courses. Do seminars and camps like jiu jitsu guys and wrestlers do. Say funny things during press conferences like Andre Fili just did. So many options
@mindshiftmastermind6520
@mindshiftmastermind6520 10 ай бұрын
Are you a fighter???
@rpemulis
@rpemulis 10 ай бұрын
@@mindshiftmastermind6520 he is not. 👍
@taylore75
@taylore75 6 ай бұрын
This was a really good video. Its a complicated situation but I love the UFC. Im grateful for it and don't ever want to see it replaced. I love the fighters too and respect and want the best for them. I think the UFC does a lot of good and sometimes gets an unfair bad rep.
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@miless544
@miless544 6 ай бұрын
As long as the fighters avoid collective bargaining they will be preyed on by the promotions.
@FNA27601
@FNA27601 12 күн бұрын
Mention that to them or unionization and they'll just call you a communist and flame you for it. They don't help themselves at all unfortunately.
@LordHolley
@LordHolley 5 ай бұрын
I love how everybody here just wants to bash the UFC. Currently, the UFC pays its fighters more on average than any other combat sport, and it's increasing every year. Every fighter that signs with the UFC has the same opportunity as everyone else. Promote yourself, take fights, and give it 100%, and not only will you make a lot of money, but you will have various opportunities to have income after your career. They don't even require that you win all the time if you do the other three. The only Fighters that complain are the ones that don't want to promote themselves, won't take fights, or give lousy efforts. Would you want to give employees like that or raise?
@rudybasart9965
@rudybasart9965 6 ай бұрын
Prime logo on a ufc mat sure changed the Paul brothers view on Dana and the ufc
@PiranhaVS
@PiranhaVS 6 ай бұрын
Why cause g he e took their money ?
@DisparityOfBeliefAndTruth
@DisparityOfBeliefAndTruth Ай бұрын
Given the lack of interest in celebrity culture, no passing of anyone with any fame meant anything except for Bonnar. When the UFC broadcasted the memorial for him, it stung like I knew the guy and I was at his funeral.
@arsnotorious
@arsnotorious Жыл бұрын
Whats Bellator pay?... not as much as UFC.
@bloodsportfilms
@bloodsportfilms Жыл бұрын
Exactly. And they did give a fighter an awful deal of 250$ to win and 250$ to show Thats 500$ if he wins... its crazy, slap leagues pays more lol
@pinpeter
@pinpeter 4 ай бұрын
Cant make everyone happy , some deserve it more then others, you represent the effort you put in !
@lmv702
@lmv702 6 ай бұрын
Protest and unionize!?!? The highest paid fighters would never! Because that means they’d get paid less and feel like they’ve worked harder than the next guy who’s struggling to make ends meet! A fighters union won’t happen.
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