Why World Cup DH Racers Want Bike Flex

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@deathmetaldownhiller7874
@deathmetaldownhiller7874 2 ай бұрын
The amount of F1 philosophy that is trickling down into pedal bikes is wild to see. It makes sense to have them flex when deeper in the stroke
@ChlorophyllCrusher
@ChlorophyllCrusher 2 ай бұрын
It’s fascinating for sure. Mtbs have seen rapid development across all elements - frames, forks, brakes, drivetrains, etc. - over the last what, 40 years? - while road bikes held to pretty constant elements for a long time, with very small iterations (tires increasing in size by 1-2mm every 5-10 years since the 80s. Custom road bike builders have been tuning stiffness at the system level all along, including performance objectives under a range of cornering load profiles (grand tour descending, criterium racing, etc). It seems to me DH couldn’t really get to fine-tuning frame stiffness until tire size and pressures stabilized (nobody runs 24” Nokians anymore), and the sweet spot of frame and fork travel was locked in. Telemetry sure has helped parse out the influence of element in the system too, which is a big advancement.
@craftymgaming5362
@craftymgaming5362 2 ай бұрын
@@ChlorophyllCrusher I agree with you on the road bikes, seeing the new iterations of specialized tarmac ive noticed the main changes being aerodynamic impovements and weight savings. It also looks a bit stiffer than the SL7, couldnt say if it is though. Its interesting to see finite amounts of compliance being put into the design process of these french bikes. Alot of people prefer *almost* no compliance at all in their bike frames
@emveeess839
@emveeess839 2 ай бұрын
I feel moto GP may have had more influence. Flex has been engineered into those frames for some time now. The Bizzare notion of “moar stiffer” has been a unique mtb/road marketing gimmick for too long so good to see things change
@oskarskates
@oskarskates 2 ай бұрын
@@emveeess839Its worth mentioning that a stiffer bike will be better for out of saddle sprinting efforts which is unique for bicycles
@Bonky-wonky
@Bonky-wonky 2 ай бұрын
Literally every other sport has figured this out decades ago but mtb has been dominated by marketing for too long. Stiffer is a higher number so it must be better.
@Bottomburbsburnbums
@Bottomburbsburnbums 2 ай бұрын
That’s why no one could catch me on my Intense 6.6 - that thing was a noodle!
@dangerouscookie4790
@dangerouscookie4790 2 ай бұрын
My flexiest bike I owned was also when I felt the fastest.
@yungQi
@yungQi 2 ай бұрын
Haha that’s lit 🔥
@ScoopernautGaming
@ScoopernautGaming Ай бұрын
@@dangerouscookie4790 Everything feels fast when your bike makes every trail feel like rampage 😂
@jean-micheljmo8210
@jean-micheljmo8210 2 ай бұрын
What a scoop! Way to go Seb Stott! I loved how the Mondraker team had not one, but two secrets in their sauce.
@robno5223
@robno5223 2 ай бұрын
I remember Dynastar had dampers in the tips of their skis a weight with an axle through it, if you took a hard hit they fell out and the ski skied the same. Great to see some new tech on WC bikes, not sure how much will trickle down, but keep pushing.
@computerbob06
@computerbob06 2 ай бұрын
Frame flex? Time to get back onto Steel then is it!?
@justsayin3600
@justsayin3600 2 ай бұрын
Just when I thought I dialed my bike, now I have to go down a rabbit hole of FLEX? Nooooooo!!!
@TheOtherPlayer
@TheOtherPlayer 2 ай бұрын
Only if you’re getting paid to chase the win 🤙
@megatryn
@megatryn Ай бұрын
Why are the teams having a focus on this now? It is well known that Nico Vouilloz was tuning spoke tension in his rear wheel in the 90s and early 00s to gain compliance.
@PeakTorque
@PeakTorque 2 ай бұрын
The return of seb stott explains why the Commy is working. Those skinnier than everyone elses tubes ! But by design or pure fluke… what do we think 😂
@TastyGnocchi
@TastyGnocchi 2 ай бұрын
non-bots Squadron: GO
@Bonky-wonky
@Bonky-wonky 2 ай бұрын
The commencal guy touched upon it but I’m interested how the flex characteristics and therefore handling differ between components. Does a flexy wheel feel the same as a flexy fork? Can one area compensate for the other leading to a similar result? When looking for a certain wheel stifness, how do rim choice, spoke choice, number and tension compare?
@Tzestos
@Tzestos 2 ай бұрын
Can we please have more content with Seb?
@onemanmob6756
@onemanmob6756 2 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the most the segment of this video where Specialized explained in detail all their tricks 🙄
@euanbegbie
@euanbegbie 2 ай бұрын
Some of the mechanics look so awkward talking about this kinda stuff, like they are saying things they shouldn't 😂
@rayneary4371
@rayneary4371 2 ай бұрын
in other words I cant blame my bike
@stirfrybry1
@stirfrybry1 2 ай бұрын
I bought a Niskiki Alien ACX back in the 80s with bolt on steel rear. What's old is new again
@xLordSpicy
@xLordSpicy 2 ай бұрын
All this tech that is realisically uselss the real world = normalising the insane prices we pay these day
@emveeess839
@emveeess839 2 ай бұрын
Pro riders only
@nathantoney.1501
@nathantoney.1501 2 ай бұрын
I just strapped a deadblow hammer to my cs with duct tape
@garethwoods1562
@garethwoods1562 2 ай бұрын
Away to drill holes on my Nukeproof Dissent triangle
@DandyHippo
@DandyHippo Ай бұрын
I think they break easily even without the holes
@garethwoods1562
@garethwoods1562 Ай бұрын
@@DandyHippo ironically yes they do 😂 I got a spare just incase lol
@DandyHippo
@DandyHippo Ай бұрын
@@garethwoods1562 😂😂 damn
@loamchasers
@loamchasers Ай бұрын
So bike industry develops carbon wheels…..their solution make bikes flexible to compensate. They make high engagement hubs….their solution o-chain to make it less engaged. They make problems and they create solutions to sell you more useless shit that everyone falls for
@FireLysm
@FireLysm Ай бұрын
Let's be hones, why strive into F1 booo hoo, when compound bows had the most flex and dampers. Some of them so small and do very big role.
@neil27pearson
@neil27pearson 2 ай бұрын
If you want flex just use aluminium 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
@scottmeredith3359
@scottmeredith3359 2 ай бұрын
This all trickle down from F1
@jean-micheljmo8210
@jean-micheljmo8210 2 ай бұрын
Oooh, this is interesting. Can you give examples? Or the right episode in that F1 Netflix show?
@JetLagRecords
@JetLagRecords 2 ай бұрын
Pinkbike, My guy, your channel is amazing. Let's collab!
@antrace92
@antrace92 2 ай бұрын
You don't even know who you're talking to
@bicifamily
@bicifamily 2 ай бұрын
😂
@loamchasers
@loamchasers Ай бұрын
So bike industry develops carbon wheels…..their solution make bikes flexible to compensate. They make high engagement hubs….their solution o-chain to make it less engaged. They make problems and they create solutions to sell you more useless shit that everyone falls for
@loamchasers
@loamchasers Ай бұрын
So bike industry develops carbon wheels…..their solution make bikes flexible to compensate. They make high engagement hubs….their solution o-chain to make it less engaged. They make problems and they create solutions to sell you more useless shit that everyone falls for
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