Why X sometimes sounds like Z (in English)

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LingoLizard

LingoLizard

Күн бұрын

Have you ever looked at the magical instruments that are xylophones and wonder why x is pronounced as z instead of ks? This is why X sometime sounds like Z (in English, at least.)
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@SuraiginOfficial
@SuraiginOfficial Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: in greek the metal xylophone is called "μεταλλόφωνο (metalofono)" and just so nobody asks, i know this because i'm greek and i own a metalophone.
@PublicLibraryx
@PublicLibraryx Жыл бұрын
play a song for us
@rosenberry9150
@rosenberry9150 Жыл бұрын
yeah, play a song for us man
@mertzanakia
@mertzanakia Жыл бұрын
No bro. Xylophone in Greek is ξυλόφωνο and is made of wood. Μεταλλόφωνο also exists and is made of metal.
@nik021298
@nik021298 Жыл бұрын
That is the exact same word in Spanish. Metalófono. Although we also have Xilófono, pronounced as /si'lofono/. The distinction about one being of wood and the other metal also exists in Spanish, they might be greek loan words or have their roots in greek.
@mikeone1185
@mikeone1185 Жыл бұрын
russian pretty same - ксилофон (ksilofon)
@gisopolis77
@gisopolis77 Жыл бұрын
0:57 We percussionists classify those "metallic things" as glockenspiels, not xylophones, so the definition actually stays true to its etymology!
@beyonderboi
@beyonderboi Жыл бұрын
I believe we musicians call those “metallic things” metallophones staying even truer to the Greek etymology with Ancient Greek “métallon” meaning metal (and we know what phone means). But yes xylophones are never metallic
@diamond_star9267
@diamond_star9267 Жыл бұрын
isn't that a vibraphone?
@beyonderboi
@beyonderboi Жыл бұрын
@@diamond_star9267 a vibraphone is a variant of a metallophone with two rows of metallic keys, one for sharps and flats and one for whole notes like on a piano
@sethb124
@sethb124 Жыл бұрын
​@@beyonderboi Actually the main defining feature of vibraphones is that they have a foot pedal, that when pressed down, causes the keys to ring (or vibrate) instead of the sound quickly dissipating. Glockenspiels are the other main type of metallophone, and they also have 2 rows of keys. Even chimes have 2 rows of keys
@sethb124
@sethb124 Жыл бұрын
@@diamond_star9267 Glockenspiels are much smaller than vibraphones, and they're played with rubber or plastic mallets. Vibraphones are larger, have have a foot pedal that lets the keys ring when pressed down, and are played with yarn mallets
@carmi7042
@carmi7042 Жыл бұрын
2:25 a similiar thing happens in Italian too. The letter z is pronunced as "ts" in most times, but it can become "dz" in some cases, the most consistent of them is at the beginning of the word.
@ellajelenska6643
@ellajelenska6643 Жыл бұрын
in german z is also usually pronounced as ts
@jpaulo_ap
@jpaulo_ap Жыл бұрын
Zanzara
@tigrafale4610
@tigrafale4610 Жыл бұрын
They pronounce z as ts in German usually
@urinstein1864
@urinstein1864 Жыл бұрын
Today I learned, the t in "tsunami" is silent in English. Until now I used to bring up this egzact word as an egzample of the "ts" sound.
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx Жыл бұрын
What about czar? Also does it *have* to be initial ts-? Can't you use "cats"?
@urinstein1864
@urinstein1864 Жыл бұрын
Yeah going "cats" and "bits" is probably the thing to do. I would prefer initial "ts", but not that big a deal I guess. As for "czar", I think that ones tough, as "zar" is a common English pronunciation of it. According to Wikipedia "sar" is as well, so yeah, same problem as tsunami, it seems.
@bobboberson8297
@bobboberson8297 Жыл бұрын
hot soup is my go to example
@chaconneind3777
@chaconneind3777 Жыл бұрын
Actually, in Oxford dictionary, NAmE pronunciation of “t” is optional, while BrE is required.
@Xnoob545
@Xnoob545 Жыл бұрын
don't worry, since the original japanese does say the "ts", yu could technically claim that your way is more correct than others. I'm part of the TSunami gang myself Side note, can I mention that "tsu" sounds so beautiful and makes Japanese sound much more Japanese
@alexmeng4805
@alexmeng4805 Жыл бұрын
Look at what I've found, another linguistic youtube channel! What a great day. About the [ks] vs [gz] distribution in English, it looks like it's being conditioned by both intervocalicity and stress positions. Look at all the [gz] words (ex'ist, ex'ample) the /k/ in /ks/ is an unstressed syllable final and /s/ is a stressed onset. Then in [ks] words ('exercise, t'axi) /k/ is in a stressed syllable while /s/ is not. (Or you can simplify this and just say whether stress comes before or after but phonologically is two sounds.) This voicing assimilation would also make sense since an unstressed syllable is more likely to have its features mixed up a bit and the second component /s/ just follows whatever the first sound /k/ is doing. Keep up the good work!
@hungvu262
@hungvu262 Жыл бұрын
found out during the video that I pronounce those words with a k
@thegoldendragonacs
@thegoldendragonacs Жыл бұрын
The fact that you snuck a chug jug reference in the section about voiced and unvoiced words is legendary. Never before have I seen a meme that not only doesn’t distract, but actually proves a point.
@LingoLizard
@LingoLizard Жыл бұрын
I didn't even realize it was a fortnite thing until midway through editing :P
@thealtrik3051
@thealtrik3051 Жыл бұрын
@@LingoLizard The absolute madman including references without even noticing
@mikaelsza
@mikaelsza Жыл бұрын
In portuguese language, X has 4 sounds: /ks/ Sexo, Fixo, Tóxico, Torax; /s/ Excelente, Maximo; /z/ Exame, Exercício; (Sh-sound) Xadrez, Caixa, Xenofobo, Xilofone How do we know which sound use? Mostly, practice!! But ever has Sh-sound when starts a word and ever has /ks/ sound when ends a word. Edit: reading a comment below, I noticed that the Z sound is present when X is stressed or before the stressed syllable and KS sound when X is after the stressed syllable, but both in intervocalic position.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 11 ай бұрын
And it doesnt exist in latviešu alphabet, but we do know how to read it and will read ks without fault.
@kamota8523
@kamota8523 6 ай бұрын
*5, don't forget /gz/, as in hexágono!
@lohphat
@lohphat Жыл бұрын
Those metal xylophones are technically glockenspiels. Xylophones are wooden by definition. There are further refinements in nomenclature regarding marimbas and vibraphones as well.
@Swagpion
@Swagpion 8 ай бұрын
Ah, a german word. You can not convince me that glockenspiel isn't german.
@lohphat
@lohphat 8 ай бұрын
@@Swagpion Ich habe nichts darüber gesagt.
@txtp
@txtp 4 ай бұрын
are they not metallophones?
@OhioStudiosOG
@OhioStudiosOG Жыл бұрын
i always pronounced Xylophone with the x as a normal eks sound, i always got mad when people said zylophone.
@Leo-qh6vf
@Leo-qh6vf Жыл бұрын
In Portuguese there are also many cases in which "x" is pronounced like a "z". For example, the word "example" in Portuguese is "exemplo", and this x sounds like a z. It also happens for exercise and many others.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 11 ай бұрын
And latviski there are none. Technicly our alphabet doesnt have an x but our people do know how to read it and all will read it as ks in every case without fault.
@lizavetabudnik3140
@lizavetabudnik3140 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it "xylOphono" in Greek and "xylophOne" in French?
@justafeather4630
@justafeather4630 Жыл бұрын
that's true, they just altered the stress to emphasise the different realisations of the :d
@piptune
@piptune Жыл бұрын
French at some point lost it sense of stress inherent from Latin, so now French tends to fix its stress pattern on the last syllable, not counting the sound /ə/ (schwa). For instance: 🇨🇵muSIque, béluGA 🇪🇸MÚsica, beLUga So as French stress is (almost) always predictable and (I guess) doesn't cause minimal pairs, French is (often) not considered to contain any stress system whatsoëver.
@ryuko4478
@ryuko4478 Жыл бұрын
@@piptune actually no, French doesn't stress syllable of a word, it stressed the last syllable of a phrase! so yeah when a word is pronounced in isolation it's the last syllable of that word, but in a semtence only the last syllable of the whole sentence gets stressed.
@Joaquim-nz9vp
@Joaquim-nz9vp Жыл бұрын
@@ryuko4478 I think it's actually 1 syllable stress per word, it's true that in sentences words are sticked together thanks to la liaison, but that doesn't mean words lose their stressed syllables. For example in "Les animaux se seraient échappés du zoo", every word still has a stressed syllable (caps): "LES aniMAUX SE serAIENT échapPÉS DU ZOO". Through that example you can also see that every word tends to be stressed on the last syllable. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me!
@ryuko4478
@ryuko4478 Жыл бұрын
@@Joaquim-nz9vp I don't know about French dialects but in Standard Parisian French it would only be stressed on the zoo, but unlike in English where unstressed means it becomes schwa French vowelsstay relatively unreduced and are fully pronounced except schwa (and sometimes mid fromt rounded vowels) can be dropped or added to redine the rhythm.
@sakamotosan1887
@sakamotosan1887 Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, in Japanese, "xenon" is called キセノン, which sounds something close to "ksenon", like the Greek pronunciation. And "xylophone" is シロフォン, something like shirofone (trying to use english phonetics here).
@mikaelsza
@mikaelsza Жыл бұрын
Maybe the portuguese have introduced the xylophone in Japan. Shirofone sounds like the portuguese pronunciation.
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx Жыл бұрын
xylophone xilophone xilofone shilofone shirofone
@serakxi
@serakxi Жыл бұрын
Xylophone in portuguese is Xilofone (and is pronounced like /ʃi.loˈfo.ni/) The portuguese were the first europeans to arrive in Japan, maybe the japanese got the word from portuguese
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 11 ай бұрын
Latviski the pronounciation is clear from how we write it - ksilofōns. Also it pains me how most japanese people think that they are romanizing something when theyre actually anglisizing it. For example 夢子 蛇喰 I would write using the latin script as Jumeko Džabami. (How you write /d͡ʒ/ is really free pick as latin did not have such a sound, how ever in modernish latin J is always /j/, classical latin wrote /j/ with i and you can see how j was created from i to differentiate between /j/ and /i/.)
@Unstoppable0810
@Unstoppable0810 3 ай бұрын
今まで生きてきた中で木琴と言わずにシロフォンと言ったことがない、、、
@zeezee9670
@zeezee9670 Жыл бұрын
It's great that your explanations are often intuitive. Thank you.
@aie007
@aie007 Жыл бұрын
4:11 Not just Xalapa, Mexico is also pronounced as Mehico in Spanish
@Alcam211
@Alcam211 Жыл бұрын
I think it's worth mentioning that X is not normally pronounced as [x] in Spanish, that sound correspond to J (and ge, gi), and X is normally pronounced as [ks], as in English, México and Xalapa are one of the very few exceptions.
@ruedigernassauer
@ruedigernassauer Жыл бұрын
The original Spanish spelling was and is "Méjico". US Americans changed this to "Mexico". The same thing happened when "Tejas" was conquered by the US Americans: It became "Texas".
@Checkmate1138
@Checkmate1138 Жыл бұрын
@@ruedigernassauer Well, technically, that "Mex" spelling could be rooted in the old Nahuatl pronunciation of the Mexica people, pronounced as "me/sh/ika" (sorry for the improper writing symbols), which was transcribed with the "x" letter.
@yeasr7781
@yeasr7781 Жыл бұрын
this channel needs more subs
@dklimenok
@dklimenok Жыл бұрын
2:45 It's worth pointing out that those are not exceptions. The voicing occurred if the prefix ex- was followed immediately by a stressed vowel, which is not the case for exercise.
@brasteryakintosh9418
@brasteryakintosh9418 Жыл бұрын
Something to note is that “x” is sometimes pronounced /ʃ/ because that’s what sound it made in Old Spanish before it was merged with “j” and still then became /x/ except in consonant clusters where it merged with “s”. This is why “example” is “ejemplo”. Still, using “x” for /ʃ/ spread to other languages on the Iberian Peninsula and this pronunciation was still in use when Spanish missionaries started transcribing Native American languages. Because Mandarin needed a romanization system that could write two different /ʃ/-like sounds and “x” was the only letter that could work on its own for a /ʃ/-like sound which was important because reasons, “x” became the grapheme of choice
@kantoid6233
@kantoid6233 11 ай бұрын
I'm brazilian, and in portuguese, "x" has 4 sounds Sh: Xilofone (xylophone), xicara (mug) Z: Exato (exact), exótico (exotic) Ks: Taxi, complexidade (complexity) S: (it usually sounds "s" in words that have "s" or "c" after "x", but there's exceptions) Excelente (excelent), extremamente (extremely)
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Really nice etymological travel! Thanks!
@willgoodwin-moore947
@willgoodwin-moore947 Жыл бұрын
I hope this channel blooms, because i already love it!! on the other hand, however, you have made me realise “xanthic” is a real word…
@vladislavkaras491
@vladislavkaras491 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@maxiapalucci2511
@maxiapalucci2511 Жыл бұрын
Great video but the x in Xi’an represents /ɕ/ not /ʃ/
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx
@xXJ4FARGAMERXx Жыл бұрын
It represents ʃ in the English pronounciation.
@mikaelsza
@mikaelsza Жыл бұрын
But is the closer pronunciation for a english speaker
@Checkmate1138
@Checkmate1138 Жыл бұрын
@@xXJ4FARGAMERXx Yeah, but it's literally incorrect to the original meaning. Oh well, you can't really speak Chinese clearly with only English pronunciation.
@floraevoli3330
@floraevoli3330 Жыл бұрын
"For example, the word example" beauty
@elcanaldelucas6187
@elcanaldelucas6187 8 ай бұрын
4:08 i love how he did not use Mexico itself as an example
@WhizzKid2012
@WhizzKid2012 3 ай бұрын
I like your thumbnails and your style.
@silverwolfmillennium8428
@silverwolfmillennium8428 Жыл бұрын
Hey Lingolizard, could you make a video about त, द, ट, and ड (hindi alphabets)
@nuetarded
@nuetarded Жыл бұрын
2:27 that was so smooth
@efenty6235
@efenty6235 Жыл бұрын
in hungarian they make us spell existentialism as "egzisztencializmus" with a "gz"
@andrzejkowalski6836
@andrzejkowalski6836 Жыл бұрын
In the Polish version of "Xena the Warrior Princess", her name was not pronounced z-ee-n-a but k-s-eh-n-ah.
@ddnava96
@ddnava96 Жыл бұрын
4:08. Fun fact: The x in Mexico should actually be pronounced as the x in Xalapa, but English speakers just decided to ignore that and make yet another exception Cheers!
@izjemmr
@izjemmr 5 ай бұрын
Supposedly the version of Greek that got borrowed into Etruscan and then Latin just did not use the existing xi (Ξ/ξ), opting instead to represent it with the digraph chi-sigma (ΧΣ/χσ), eventually abbreviating it as just chi (Χ/χ).
@Dread_2137
@Dread_2137 Жыл бұрын
If we talk about X in english, let's also talk about why C is pronounced as K or S, or why PH is making F sound.
@tfan2222
@tfan2222 Жыл бұрын
Much simpler, the C has traditionally been the K and G sound (hence why G is a derivative of C), the whole “k s” thing comes from French. The PH is just sound change from an aspirated P to an F, pretty common. English spelling is based on etymology, so the original spelling is kept despite the sound change.
@Dread_2137
@Dread_2137 Жыл бұрын
@@tfan2222 if C has been K, how did you get C in Citrus? Kitrus?
@ryuko4478
@ryuko4478 Жыл бұрын
@@Dread_2137 Latin /k g/ palatalized to /t͡s d͡ʒ/ before front non-low vowels (/i e ɛ/) in Old French and English loaned that as /s d͡ʒ/, compare how Latin Caesar is /kae̯sar/ in Classic pronunciation, German /ˈkai̯zɐ/, Arabic /qajsˁar/ but in French it became /sezaʁ/ and in Ecclesiastical Latin it became /ˈt͡ʃezar/.
@cmyk8964
@cmyk8964 Жыл бұрын
*jan Misali* has a great video about why C has 2 main sounds.
@mikaelsza
@mikaelsza Жыл бұрын
Basically, Lenition!! The Old Latin pronunciation to C and G was /k/ and /g/ respectively, but as time passed, C and G before I, E and Y got softened in most romance languages as Italian, French, Spanish and Portuguese. English got many influences from Latin and Normandic French, also having lenition in C and G. PH had an aspirated /p/ sound like in Pet and Pot, but got softened to /f/ sound in both Latin and Greek. Something like that also happened in semitic languages like arab and hebrew.
@Xnoob545
@Xnoob545 Жыл бұрын
1:32 I actually do say it with the "tsu"
@U20E0
@U20E0 Жыл бұрын
because what the video should have said is that “ _some_ american speakers don’t pronounce the ‘t’ “ Bad example. And i also pronounce “pseudonym” with an audible “p”, which is just plainly incorrect.
@glass_shard
@glass_shard Жыл бұрын
I think I'm missing a piece... if /ks/ can become /gz/ in between vowels, why would French change /ks/ to /gz/ at the START of a word?
@gunjfur8633
@gunjfur8633 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same
@U20E0
@U20E0 Жыл бұрын
because French is not English. it’s not even in the same language family.
@gunjfur8633
@gunjfur8633 Жыл бұрын
@@U20E0 That doesnt answer the question
@U20E0
@U20E0 Жыл бұрын
@@gunjfur8633 i don’t know french. and it wasn’t supposed to answer the question, just point out that it’s malformed.
@lingux_yt
@lingux_yt Жыл бұрын
I've always thought that the sound turned into a Z because the letters X and Z are similar in Greek!
@pandaszan9310
@pandaszan9310 2 ай бұрын
Random fun fact about Polish We also happened to loan that voicing, though I don't know from what language. Our word for "exam" is "egzamin", and "existence" is "egzystencja"
@jan_Masewin
@jan_Masewin 21 күн бұрын
Would it be correct to say that English voices /ks/ before a non-initial stressed syllable?
@seneca983
@seneca983 Жыл бұрын
You shouldn't punish yourself for those puns. You should give yourself a trophy.
@Sebax
@Sebax 9 ай бұрын
In spanish the letter X has gone through different pronunciations. First it was "sh", then "kh" and finally "ks". It's also pronounced "s" at the beginning of a word, I guess because "ks" would be awkward to pronounce
@KingJellyfishII
@KingJellyfishII Жыл бұрын
egzquisite choice of word egzamples
@thepanremastered
@thepanremastered Жыл бұрын
1:05 the english "i" sound as in "price" is actually spelled (in the IPA context) /ai/; not /aɪ/ which is something I feel a lot of linguists get wrong. Using general IPA distinction for english with /r/ instead of /ɹ/ would also be acceptable, or you could use \ with the backslash to be more distinctive.
@SlyHikari03
@SlyHikari03 Жыл бұрын
Clicked because xylophone, styled for language learning. (Yes am a musician)
@Kateuno
@Kateuno Жыл бұрын
In russian its still sounds like [Ks]ylophon - (Ксилофон)
@heironic8547
@heironic8547 11 ай бұрын
0:54 shows pictures of a marimba and a glockenspiel, everything but an actual xylophone.
@mep6302
@mep6302 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I remember I used to pronounce x in Spanish as ks even at the beginning of words. I've read words like "xilófono" as "ksi'lofono". So according to Greek I was right 👍
@mewdolfkittler5630
@mewdolfkittler5630 Жыл бұрын
Same thing in Portuguese, except that X can have 4 different sounds
@fambamnetwork4388
@fambamnetwork4388 Жыл бұрын
What are those sounds
@mahhalph3064
@mahhalph3064 Жыл бұрын
@@fambamnetwork4388 X may sound like /sh/, /s/, /z/ and /ks/ in Portuguese. There are some rules, but It really depends on the origin of the word!
@fambamnetwork4388
@fambamnetwork4388 Жыл бұрын
@@mahhalph3064 ā ē õ x is stealing jobs over here
@matthisdupre3487
@matthisdupre3487 26 күн бұрын
Oh, I'm French and it's true, that we pronounced "x" it that way I had never realised hahaha
@lufax
@lufax Жыл бұрын
And then, people like me suffer with no one knowing how to actually pronounce my last name
@ilghiz
@ilghiz Жыл бұрын
X turns into gz if the following vowel is stressed: éxit - ks exíst - gz éxhibition - ks exhíbit - gz (h is silent) exhále - ks (h is not silent)
@gunjfur8633
@gunjfur8633 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was éxhale
@ilghiz
@ilghiz Жыл бұрын
@@gunjfur8633 , nope, the stress is on the second syllable, I've just checked it out to make sure. However, some people can stress the first syllable too, or give it a secondary stress. I've also found that some people can drop the [h] sound but it's still [ks] regardless of the stress.
@BBarNavi
@BBarNavi Жыл бұрын
…Are you even a native speaker? Because half of those were just completely wrong.
@gunjfur8633
@gunjfur8633 Жыл бұрын
@@ilghiz I also forgot to mention exhibítion
@ilghiz
@ilghiz Жыл бұрын
@@BBarNavi, I’m not a native speaker but I am a professional linguist. “Wrong” is not the right term here, you can’t use it for the English language cuz it allows for countless varieties. There are too many English speaking countries, there’s no way for them to come to a strict uniform standard even within their respective borders. But I do believe that they will split into separate languages like Latin did. The world is much more connected for mutual influence than it was after the fall of the Roman Empire. And it will probably stay this way for millenia to come.
@felipebranchesi597
@felipebranchesi597 Жыл бұрын
chuawɔ peaɛkaai aai laxma
@williamedwardhackman4695
@williamedwardhackman4695 Жыл бұрын
I call the letter X making the KS sound the hard X and X making the Z sound the soft X.
@tricky_english
@tricky_english 11 ай бұрын
The sound /ks/ never ever comes at the beginning of any word
@StealthySceptile
@StealthySceptile Жыл бұрын
missed opportunity to say xD
@procrastinaterayquaza
@procrastinaterayquaza Жыл бұрын
Nah those puns at the end were rather fine to me I know, I'm a strange person
@XaaviWillow
@XaaviWillow Жыл бұрын
I am the example of this.
@felipebranchesi597
@felipebranchesi597 Жыл бұрын
malaɔ pazɛasi nyauaw ŋuaaiz 🇸🇱 jaŋuaaj yajay
@luizoli7268
@luizoli7268 Жыл бұрын
As mentioned in another comment, in portuguese language, X has 4 sounds.
@danielbickford3458
@danielbickford3458 Жыл бұрын
With my limited linguistic knowledge I'm going to guess blame Greece
@LSHV
@LSHV 3 ай бұрын
My name on my PC once was "Xenoo", yes i said "Zenoo", cuz i was a smart guy
@syldaviaball9545
@syldaviaball9545 Жыл бұрын
hehe... I sometimes say tsylofoné...
@gunjfur8633
@gunjfur8633 Жыл бұрын
But you didnt explain how /ks/ became /gz/ at the beginning of the word
@pedromenchik1961
@pedromenchik1961 3 ай бұрын
In Portuguese, x can be pronounced as 'ks', 'z', 's', or 'sh'
@user-fl1dc9ju3g
@user-fl1dc9ju3g Жыл бұрын
That's why Albanians use X as [dz].
@U20E0
@U20E0 Жыл бұрын
makes perfect sense
@falliblefalinks7239
@falliblefalinks7239 Жыл бұрын
e*x*cellent video!
@jeff__w
@jeff__w Жыл бұрын
1:31 Huh? I’ve always said _tsunami_ pronouncing the _ts._ I’d regard “sunami” as a mispronunciation (not saying I’m right-that’s just how I’d view it).
@Alesti5
@Alesti5 Жыл бұрын
you're been mispronouncing it for a long time.
@jeff__w
@jeff__w Жыл бұрын
@@Alesti5 Ha, maybe not. Merriam-Webster, American Heritage, Collins, Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary, Cambridge, and Webster's New World College all have the pronunciation beginning with _ts._ Macmillan and New Oxford American give both the _ts_ and _s_ pronunciations. Bill Poser in _Language Log_ (in 2011), consistent with the video, said “In English the word is pronounced [sunami] rather than [tsunami] since English does not allow syllable-initial [ts]”-not that people who talk about _tse-tse flies_ care about such things-with plenty of commenters disagreeing. I’d surmise that _tsunami_ with an initial _ts_ is pretty standard, given the pronunciations in the various dictionaries.
@ryuko4478
@ryuko4478 Жыл бұрын
@@jeff__w the pronunciation with [ts] is more accurate as loan but it isn't standard in English, some dictionaries may encourage it but the standard pronunciation is still with an initial [s]
@---iv5gj
@---iv5gj Жыл бұрын
"sunami" is just fucking wrong and ignorant
@bloofrozo
@bloofrozo Жыл бұрын
Since X makes a completely different sound at the beginning of words, then it should've made a 'sh' sound instead if a z sound. It makes more sense and there would be more words starting with x
@maritoguionyo
@maritoguionyo Жыл бұрын
eks X
@felipebranchesi597
@felipebranchesi597 Жыл бұрын
xifoaeɔ
@noibat9112
@noibat9112 Жыл бұрын
why is there no xylophone emoji
@jatinore4626
@jatinore4626 4 ай бұрын
3:33 fortnite mentioned🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@NootNooter
@NootNooter Жыл бұрын
I thought you'd mention xeno but I didn't see it.. what about this word then
@NootNooter
@NootNooter Жыл бұрын
@@gregoryford2532 Oh.. I must've been blind, I apologize. And yea you're right it isn't a word, I must've been at the beginning of my linguistics journey back then.
@kirilvelinov7774
@kirilvelinov7774 2 ай бұрын
We want a latin letter Xi!(pronounced chee) 1:04 this would be pronounced "chylophono"
@xolang
@xolang Жыл бұрын
but X in xylophone is not between vowels. it's at the beginning of a word, followed by a vowel.
@elesvazul
@elesvazul Жыл бұрын
X can also sound like 'g+z' like exit. you pronounce 'aegzit' not 'aeksit'
@kirilvelinov7774
@kirilvelinov7774 Жыл бұрын
Balkan Spanish X=z It has 18 letters H=aspiration(Qh,Ph,Th)
@kirilvelinov7774
@kirilvelinov7774 9 күн бұрын
Ydrogono lol
@kirilvelinov7774
@kirilvelinov7774 Жыл бұрын
Two new voiced letters in Greek! Ksi=Gzi Psi=Bzi
@kirilvelinov7774
@kirilvelinov7774 Жыл бұрын
Spelled vps,not mpz Spelled gx,not gkz
@tricky_english
@tricky_english 11 ай бұрын
The first sound of X-ray is the sound ĕ not /ks/
@apia46
@apia46 Жыл бұрын
i hear it pronounced more like "eks-zie-lo(or uh)-foen"
@Checkmate1138
@Checkmate1138 Жыл бұрын
Those people are probably pulling your leg, lol.
@apia46
@apia46 Жыл бұрын
@@Checkmate1138 shih-zih-low-puh-hone
@maxk1583
@maxk1583 Жыл бұрын
I think I say example the wrong way
@user-bv7zo6vd4m
@user-bv7zo6vd4m 21 күн бұрын
I think a better question is why exactly J makes a tz sound or even a Z sound. And what the hell are you supposed to do with c k and q!? It's such a shame English is the global language
@TaxEvasionUS
@TaxEvasionUS 4 ай бұрын
I love tax evasion
@19n05k83
@19n05k83 Жыл бұрын
xanax 👍
@donolsen7634
@donolsen7634 Жыл бұрын
Also in Greek we pronounce the ksilo-fonia . Also why do we change the Greek F. To Ph in English? Our Greek letter Fee. Is just fine. You guys call the letter Phi ?????
@felipebranchesi597
@felipebranchesi597 Жыл бұрын
🇸🇱 ɔkaaɔ pazŋia ywirry
@EdwindePaula
@EdwindePaula Жыл бұрын
...... kalaallisut
@brokenursa9986
@brokenursa9986 Жыл бұрын
Really weird pronunciation for X, I pronounce the X in “luxury” as a /ɡ͡ʒ/. X is a silly letter.
@U20E0
@U20E0 Жыл бұрын
that’s how it’s supposed to be pronounced in AmE, but it’s two phonemes [gZ], not an affricate [g_Z]
@blinski1
@blinski1 Жыл бұрын
That's very logical to pronounce it that way. First, you got your X between two vowels after stressed syllable, so it makes the 'gz' out of 'ks' sound. Then, you got something called 'yod coalescence' which makes fricative out of every consonant that can be turned into one when it's positioned before letter U being pronounced as 'yu'. So 'z' before U becomes 'ʒ', just like S in 'sure' becomes 'sh' or D in 'endure' becomes 'j' (but doesn't have to, just like you can say 'lugzury' with 'z').
@Ggdivhjkjl
@Ggdivhjkjl Жыл бұрын
In my dialect it's /kʃ/, possibly with a glide too.
@josephschubert6561
@josephschubert6561 Жыл бұрын
0:58 You fool. You don't even know who you've insulted. (Those are bells, or a glockenspiel in German. It is small and looks about the same as a cheap aluminum toy xylophone because they are meant for really high notes with a piercing timbre.)
@felipebranchesi597
@felipebranchesi597 Жыл бұрын
🇸🇱 saiɔpn aidaɡ ɔkwef ɡay fanx
@Ggdivhjkjl
@Ggdivhjkjl Жыл бұрын
You pronounced the x in Mexico incorrectly.
@ilghiz
@ilghiz Жыл бұрын
Xebra, xoology, xodiac...
@PlatinumAltaria
@PlatinumAltaria Жыл бұрын
It feels so good to not speak a dialect where x is /gz/, that makes no sense at all.
@tfan2222
@tfan2222 Жыл бұрын
The /gz/ sound dates ALL the way back to old English.
@PlatinumAltaria
@PlatinumAltaria Жыл бұрын
@@tfan2222 And AFAIK the elimination of /gz/ dates to Middle English, and is quite common across English speakers.
@Bancanana
@Bancanana 11 ай бұрын
I thought xylophone was pronounced ex ylophone?
@nick3805
@nick3805 11 ай бұрын
And people say German is confusing!
@OOoOski
@OOoOski Жыл бұрын
For someone learning English that complete fucking mess of English pronunciation is a pain. Basically you have to learn most of the words twice, because you can’t figure out how to pronounce them by looking at them.
@suranumitu7734
@suranumitu7734 Жыл бұрын
you say it's from ancient greek, but you're showing and saying the modern greek pronunciation. not really relevant but it did bother me.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 11 ай бұрын
Because the english cant read. A xylophone is to be pronounces ksilophone. And ph is not f its an asperated p.
@pianogang2273
@pianogang2273 Жыл бұрын
1,000 viewer
@judymunn5342
@judymunn5342 2 ай бұрын
Anyways???
@youtubeuser3819
@youtubeuser3819 10 ай бұрын
It’s a little annoying to hear you mispronounce the word “pronunciation “, especially being that this is a linguistics channel.
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