Why You Should Take The White Pill - Michael Malice

Michael Malice is an author, political commentator & podcaster.
The 1900s saw some of the worst atrocities in human history. Evil was abound and the bad guys were on top a lot, with the Soviet Union being one of the most brutal examples. Given this, what reason do we have for hope in the modern world?
Expect to learn just how brutal the Soviet jails and gulags were, the torture methods used to extract confessions, how the Western Press were complicit in covering up Russian crimes, the incredible heroism and ingenuity used by people to get through the Berlin wall, why the bad guys don't have to win, Michael's justification for there always being hope and much more...
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00:00 Intro
02:13 Do the Public Know Anything About the Cold War?
07:20 Michael’s Message of Hope
12:35 Why is Cynicism So Prevalent in Society?
19:02 Why Ayn Rand’s Speech is Important
24:39 The Inability to Foresee Consequences of Communism
32:12 Political Philosophy at the Start of the 20th Century
39:53 Fundamental Philosophy of the Soviet Union
52:40 Marxism’s Goal of Global Communism
1:00:57 The Most Brutal Aspects of the Soviet Union
1:08:46 Who Was Walter Duranty?
1:13:07 Soviet Tactics to Arrest Innocent People
1:22:03 Soviet Methods of Torture
1:33:10 The Importance of the Berlin Wall
1:40:42 Reasons for Hope
1:53:09 Our Present Fight Against Evil
2:02:47 Michael’s Experience of Writing the Book
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[@ChrisWillx]

Hello comrades. Access all episodes 10 hours earlier than KZbin by Subscribing on Spotify - spoti.fi/2LSimPn. Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:13 Do the Public Know Anything About the Cold War? 07:20 Michael’s Message of Hope 12:35 Why is Cynicism So Prevalent in Society? 19:02 Why Ayn Rand’s Speech is Important 24:39 The Inability to Foresee Consequences of Communism 32:12 Political Philosophy at the Start of the 20th Century 39:53 Fundamental Philosophy of the Soviet Union 52:40 Marxism’s Goal of Global Communism 1:00:57 The Most Brutal Aspects of the Soviet Union 1:08:46 Who Was Walter Duranty? 1:13:07 Soviet Tactics to Arrest Innocent People 1:22:03 Soviet Methods of Torture 1:33:10 The Importance of the Berlin Wall 1:40:42 Reasons for Hope 1:53:09 Our Present Fight Against Evil 2:02:47 Michael’s Experience of Writing the Book

[@HereTakeAFlower]

Nooo, Michael, my friend actually has a picture of Elon is his house 💀💀💀

[@FamiliarAnomaly]

Bull crap to you and Michael's premise. Where are there victories that you can show me? 1. WMD in Iraq - perpetrators are worshiped, not punished 2. Snowden - exiled the good guy, perpetrators not punished 3. SEC/FBI/Mortgage crises - perpetrators not punished 4. Epstein/Maxwell - perpetrators not punished, only the bag men 5. Comey illegal wiretap of Trump campaign from secret FISA court - perpetrators not punished How exactly is it getting better? Because you guys have organized your reporting of it better? That's not action, that's just a little bit of background static noise right before the tv is turned off forever.

[@FamiliarAnomaly]

"We can sit here and talk and there's no consequences," Such utter BS - any normal person can instantly be fired from their job - YOU TWO can sit there and say what you want because you have a platform and donations and etc... you are not average citizens....

[@HereTakeAFlower]

@@FamiliarAnomaly you know the soccer players/influencers/pop starts who are being persecuted right now in Iran? Are they lacking money in your opinion?

[@JakeWitmer]

@@HereTakeAFlower Irrelevant to his remark. Just because we're free(r) doesn't mean we're free. Yes, those soccer players still exist under a theocratic totalitarian regime...and it sucks worse for them. ...But when you cone to the end of a short life in the USA that could have been saved by an FDA-prohibited-by-default treatment, let me know how you like getting tortured to death by "chemotherapy." ...And if you're looking for other ways the NSA observation of our phones and living habits operates...and how unfree we really are, may I recommend the John Stossel special "Illegal Everything," and Vin Suprynowicz's "Send In The Waco Killers."

[@Liberty-rn4wy]

"There is nothing a socialist fears more than living under a socialist system not run by his friends." - Ludwig von Mises

[@eddiemclean7011]

Was listening to this and thinking these kids that think they want socialism or communism have never lived under these forms of government. I would dare say they don't even know anyone who has.

[@Sentinel82]

@@eddiemclean7011 And they dismiss anyone that has lived through it who try to warn them....

[@chesshooligan1282]

I'm going to say von Mises was wrong here. Most socialists I've encountered in my life were losers who think socialism will work out this time, and when it happens they'll get their cut from Elon Musk's income in perpetuity without Elon Musk saying, "Fuck it, I'm out" and without the overall wealth of the country declining spectacularly. Yes, it will happen if only we get the right leaders this time. The problem with past socialist experiments was that they got incompetent leaders. The remaining few socialists I've come across in my life were charitable souls of low intelligence.

[@Liberty-rn4wy]

@@chesshooligan1282 Mises meant socialism in the original Marxian sense of taking over the govt with force. He didn't mean some sandal-wearing bearded social democrat in SF or Sweden.

[@chesshooligan1282]

@@Liberty-rn4wy And he was still wrong. Socialist losers want the Soviet Union with different leaders and think it will work this time around. Some even deny the Soviet Union was a disaster. Taking the government by force and implementing socialism in undistinguishable in the end result from taking the government by democratic vote and then implementing socialism.

[@Notsram77]

"The complexity of the truth is inconvenient for both sides." Man, I felt that.

[@poisonPpaully]

Yes I think he even caught Michael off guard with hitting the nail so perfectly on the head

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

the Real Truth gets the last laugh it's like: "you both suck LOL"

[@Notsram77]

And then near the end of the video when they're discussing the opening of the STASI files, and whether you'd want to know who turned you in... I guess we found the inconvenient truth.

[@jdsartre9520]

More accurate: "The truth of the elites enriching themselves on the blood of innocents is inconvenient for both sides"

[@umiluv]

Ain’t that the truth. Got into an argument with ppl about how masks do actually help with large particulates like spit and snot with diseases that are spread that way. That the coof is aerosol so it doesn’t matter. They went into this frikkin’ tirade about how no one’s going to force them to wear masks or whatever and I was like “dude… chill out.” I wasn’t telling him that he had to do anything just that with some diseases it can reduce spread if someone who is sick wears it. Refused to acknowledge actual facts/science because of their own fears of tyrannical control. Sounded just as bad as the Covidians who don’t listen to the fact that the coof is aerosol so masks don’t work for it. Had a nuanced take and would get yelled at both sides for it because they let their fears control them.

[@marshallmatters1526]

It was nice of Michael to take time out mid-haircut to do this interview.

[@piggypooo]

😂

[@scottydoesntknow6901]

Lmao. Maybe he should have had just a touch of cynicism towards the barber he chose.

[@PresidentKang90]

This made me laugh out loud

[@annapachaclarke2392]

That was mean...😢😅

[@RonSill1986]

😂😂😂

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

My father had to flee Hungary when the Russians invaded when he was only 15. He went out to get bread for his mum when they came. With a friend he had to flee. He stowed away on a train headed to Austria and then Switzerland. He couldn't contact his mother for almost 3 years. Many more details to the story but he eventually came to settle in the UK after being granted a temporary working permit which eventually lead to him finding a permanent job in a Hungarian restaurant and residence where he learnt his trade for becoming a head waiter and a SUPERB cook. He met my mother at a nearby Pizza Hut she was working at and the rest is history. It's incredible how good we have it here in the UK and we have to put up with illegal immigrants claiming they are fleeing war then once they get here they moan about living conditions and how little benefits they get. I hate feeling like I have to make this statement but these days people will label you as a racist like it's free candy from a pinata. Any nationality is welcome here if you apply for citizenship or sanctuary legitimately.

[@alexander0076969]

Very touching story about your escape from Hungary. A little side note : the Red Army troops that took Budapesht were same troops that fought Hungerian army in Stalingrad. Even German SS were taken aback by the atrocities committed by the Hungerians. Saying this, I am kind of surprised that there were any Hungerians left after this. Another small note. After all the horrors, Russians, in general, do not hate nor even dislike Germans. But, Hungarians, after their behavior, not so much.

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

No. My life is boring as hell lol. This is what my father told me and I have no reason to think he was lieing. I will admit some life stories may have a level of embellishment here and there though : ]@@garyfrancis6193

[@alexander0076969]

@garyfrancis6193 key words - " had to flee". Whatever his dad do being only 15 years old that he knew he had to flee from Red Army? Hmm?

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

I'm just saying what he told me. As a kid and numerous times throughout my years. If you're cut off from getting to where you live then what options do you have? I had didn't go into detail because unfortunately in this day and age people's attention spans are that of a knat. People want short or quick info. But if you had a good relationship with your father wouldn't you believe him if he told you such a story? Unfortunately psychic abilities are not a real thing so we can't know 100% can we?@@alexander0076969

[@swesleyc7]

The destruction of the UK is entirely intentional on the part of Marxists. Importing illegal aliens (the correct, state dept. definition here in the USA) will destabilize existing society and will eventually pull it down - their intent is for 1st destroy it in order to remake it in their image. It's a gnostic cult whereby Marxists / Leftists / post-modernists believe they themselves are gods and have God's wisdom.

[@chrismorton4242]

Despite his haircut, Michael was a great guest.

[@primusinterpares5767]

Lmao

[@DadsCigaretteRun]

@@bitburg40 someone yesterday was commenting that he is a bad person because he wore all these awful uniforms and stuff. I was like “bro…that is the point, do you not know what a troll is?”

[@ianbrown_]

😂

[@renaissancestatesman]

Malice is King Troll.

[@captainbeastazoid7084]

I like the haircut...

[@OliverRosendal]

"just how bad did the famine get?" "which one?" "pick your favorite one" This was super dark but made me crack up 😅

[@zbigniew2628]

During a great famine, there were posters, that remind people to not eat their children... When there is no food and you have kids, which are going to die anyway, then the dark desperation comes... Even North Korea isn't that bad.

[@rutessian]

@@zbigniew2628 They did eat people in China..

[@SepticFuddy]

@@rutessian China was always pretty quick to that solution if you look at the sieges of old

[@rogercroft3218]

The fall of the Berlin Wall was a seismic event. Not just for those in Germany or Eastern Europe. I live on the other side of the world and remember literally weeping with joy when the news broke.

[@gracesarmorE6.10-18]

I remember that! And, some of our generation knew it was coming.

[@kamikazechipmunk]

I had never seen my father cry until that day.

[@Ruk15]

It’s shocking how little most people born after the 1980s know very little about history and we wonder why the millennials etc have such a limited understanding about human rights , equality , freedom , colonisation , war and what is “ real “ suffering of the human struggle … they wouldn’t be moaning about men or women or pronouns .. they have no context as they don’t know what life was like before 1980

[@Ruk15]

Me too it was incredible and even as children we knew how important this was

[@sisiphas]

I find it unimaginable that generations younger than me (70) have no idea of life during the cold war for so many. Thank you Mr Malice fir your questioning

[@lordjeremyhirsch7009]

I was a toddler when the Soviet Bloc was ended, and Gorbechev resigned. While my opinion would be that Mao's China, was much much worse. And... While I would generally agree with you... Not all of us "young folk" are ignorant of the past. Some of us are very interested and invested. Human beings are a species with amnesia. It's a special kind of person whom looks to the wisdom of history... Much of what is plaguing our society, has precedent. Even the collapse of the Roman Empire, or the Spartans. Babylon, Ancient Egypt, Dynastic China... Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it! And there are some of us who are determined to not make the same mistakes of the past, just new ones... 😁

[@Yuki-bk2my]

@@lordjeremyhirsch7009 Im a few years younger than you, next to no one my age knows anything about the atrocities of the 20th century, I only research it because i have a fascination with evil and I'm sophistically minded.

[@IWantMyCountryBack2]

But how do we wake up our kids who have never seen the depravity of tyrants? They think life is a bowl of cherries. They need to make up fake trauma and watch horror movies because they have never known true horror.

[@PeteQuad]

I'm 20 years younger than you and it was all I knew until I was in college. I had at least one air raid drill and the fact that we were the first ones to die (living in NYC) when WW3 broke out was ever present.

[@markhenry2174]

i’m 50 and was aware of nuclear threat when young. the early 80s were probably one of the highest threat periods

[@p.d.stanhope7088]

My grandfather was born in 1911 and died in 1992. He was overjoyed to outlive the Soviet Bloc.

[@surrealresonance3426]

Yet it still lives and has begun killing the West from the grave.

[@andrefalksmen1264]

That's very interesting, I've never met anyone who wasn't a buttlicker for the West who celebrated the demise of the Soviet Union. Even the author of Gulag archipelago recanted his views.

[@p.d.stanhope7088]

@@andrefalksmen1264 You should get out more often.

[@andrefalksmen1264]

@@p.d.stanhope7088 I've been to Russia on several occasion, and throughout the Eastern Bloc, help even through Central Asia. Your grandfather is a weird outlier, if your story is true.

[@TommyMartinezpt]

Based Gramps 👍

[@ct00001]

I love that a guy named Malice is one of the most benevolent people out there.

[@UntoTheDepths]

His mother was more of a troll then him

[@riledmouse4677]

He truly is. Deeply kind and good.

[@Zarnubius]

@@gantmj He's great but don't mention who the Bolsheviks were around him. His last name is Miroshnik (don't ask for a source, he'd be really upset if he saw this). As an S I don't know why he covers for A's.

[@UntoTheDepths]

@@gantmj Davis O'Leary

[@Dude0000]

@@gantmj Michael Krechmer.

[@ewaoconnor]

Thank you for your work 💔 I was born towards the end of the communist era in Poland. I will never comprehend how anyone even remotely educated can support communism. I had almost forgotten about some of the atrocities these criminals committed. Let’s take our democracy seriously (by voting) to ensure this doesn’t resurface.

[@redpillcoach1855]

Sorry brah. It doesn't matter who votes. It matters who counts the votes. The leftist commies, blax, and haters all are in charge of the vote count.

[@lydiamalone1859]

One of the smartest things I did was to be a reader. Loved history. Loved biographies from world history. Best are books from before the 70's. I educated myself on tyrannical government throughput history. The 20th century is chilling. It's simply not taught truthfully in schools or colleges.

[@visualcomms]

I have a friend who's read a lot of history books and thinks he knows it all. I asked him once how many of those books were written by a non-Anglo/American author, and he had to admit: "none".

[@PaulHobus]

What books do you recommend?

[@dagneytaggart407]

Please recommend your top 5 favorite

[@Mrglasshalfempty]

Easily the best episode of Modern Wisdom I've ever seen. As a 56 year old, I remember like yesterday the final years of the Soviet Union and the Cold War. Unsettling to learn again how little people know of all that needless and pointless suffering, to the point where we see storm clouds gathering at the horizon yet again. Thanks Michael for the massive effort to keep these memories alive and give hope, and thanks as always Chris for using your platform to provide a podium for people like Michael.

[@DebateDeliberate]

As a 44 year old, I remember clearly being with my older cousin who was already in his 20s when the wall came down. He told me not to forget it, that I was probably too young to understand it's importance but that when I was older I would, as long as I remembered the event taking place. It's sad that we have basically forgotten.

[@refugeehugsforfree4151]

The Soviet Union was failing before it was even started. The US Empire controls the Entire world. Wake up.

[@clairehann2681]

@@DebateDeliberate this gave me goosebumps.

[@StationGarageSt]

Milan Kundera: I A couple of really good reads that relate to this period. Highly recommend. The Book of Laughter and Forgetting In 1975, Kundera moved to France where The Book of Laughter and Forgetting was published in 1979. An unusual mixture of novel, short story collection, and authorial musings which came to characterize his works in exile, the book dealt with how Czechs opposed the communist regime in various ways. Critics noted that the Czechoslovakia Kundera portrays "is, thanks to the latest political redefinitions, no longer precisely there," which is the "kind of disappearance and reappearance" Kundera ironically explores in the book.[20] A Czech version, Kniha smíchu a zapomnění, was published in April 1981 by 68 Publishers, Toronto The Unbearable Lightness of Being Kundera's most famous work, The Unbearable Lightness of Being, was published in 1984. The book chronicles the fragile nature of an individual's fate, theorizing that a single lifetime is insignificant in the scope of Nietzsche's concept of eternal return. In an infinite universe, everything is guaranteed to recur infinitely. In 1988, American director Philip Kaufman released a film adaptation.

[@JR-bj3uf]

because we choose to forget hundreds of millions will die (again.)

[@freebirdjackson5511]

It’s nuts that we forget about these events so quickly. I was 30 when the Berlin Wall fell. Prior to this event, most of my peers were very concerned about a nuclear holocaust. When the Wall fell, we thought that the major threat to human existence was vanquished. Glad there are people like Malice to remind us that we’re far from being out of the woods. I don’t think most people are as concerned as they should be.

[@MikeJones-mf2fw]

How scarce our kind are, whether we're autistic or whatever the next evolution of thinking man is. Time is not on our side. I'm furious we cannot see the future or at least have extended life span to make real solutions possible

[@normanmacfarlane6724]

No , because we're all very aware of what gender you choose of the umpteenth million to choose from. That's the social/political situation we have today

[@oliveoil7642]

@@ZM-dm3jgThat’s been done on purpose!

[@glendacollins2898]

I agree. We must remember these things and we quickly forget under an onslaught of atrocities. Add that to numbers of years in the rear view and it's a challenge both to the individual and to the human race in general. My great grandmother, whom I knew very well and who died when I was 20, was born in 1880. There is a lot of water under that bridge. Thank you for Remembering for us, here.

[@jelkel25]

The Cold War provided a sick sort of stability and focus for the money people among others, it kept the big tax dollars rolling into their accounts while giving ambitious alphabet agencies an enemy. I was happy when the wall came down but it didn't take long before you felt the stability slip and a desperation to find another enemy. This has lead us to now and we are the enemy.

[@mattphillips538]

As a child of the cold war I can honestly say that literally everything about the world I grew up in has been intentionally deleted from the public consciousness. All of it, even that my generation ever existed.

[@fredmercury1314]

...but deleted by whom and for what purpose? (the quiet people at the back, running everything, that's who)

[@mattphillips538]

@@fredmercury1314 By simple people who want to tell a simple story that is false.

[@PeteQuad]

You must be from Gen X

[@vaughncassidy5242]

This is intentional because the department of education has been infiltrated and commandeered by Marxists. This is why we learn nothing about Mao’s China and the horrors in the Ukraine and Russia. Let alone a half dozen other countries who have had their own horror story. Communism is the government of Satan himself.

[@honorandintegrity4997]

@@fredmercury1314 piece by piece, by people like you.

[@NegativeMass85]

Malice is one of the most important voices of our time. Thanks so much for having him on the show.

[@larymcfart4034]

Meh. I disagree, I think there are plenty of others. I can't agree with an anarchist for any reason simply because they think too benevolently of people at a foundational level.

[@BlyGuy]

​@@larymcfart4034most humans are good though, it's just that the bad ones get all the shine in this fallen, satanic world, but the good far outweighs the bad.

[@larymcfart4034]

@@BlyGuy Most people are ignorant of the choices that determine your survival. It's an illusion of baseline good, when you've tamed the threats... Most people are still mental children playing with toys in a sandbox, oblivious to what's beyond the past the fence of the playground...

[@larymcfart4034]

@@BlyGuy This isn't a fallen satanic world. It's much to honest for that.

[@BlyGuy]

@@larymcfart4034 though I think you are mostly right, humans are waking up in massive numbers and waking up fast. Once a person wakes up and has that consciousness expansion, it's virtually impossible to get them back to NPC complacency. I'm in a large group chat with friends from HS/college and it was just a few years ago that numerous people in the chat had no time for my truth bombs. Now these same people are awake to the rampant anti whitism, awake to the WEF being a threat to our way of life, awake to government corruption and more.

[@_Dovar_]

This is probably the best book discussion I've ever listened to. Long gone are the days of television interviews of quality of this magnitude.

[@kbeetles]

This is far too retraumatising for someone like me - born and grown up in socialist Hungary. Even as a little girl I did know how inhuman, vicious and dangerous society was around me. I still carry the sense of horror in my bones......

[@fredjones554]

God bless you, please write down your story. In the future people will not believe you.

[@Peglegkickboxer]

former soviet Poland survivor here. I feel the same. It's not just the time living in socialism but the 15+ years of terror after it falls apart., Hungary, Croatia, Czechia, Poland, etc got lucky but places like Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, Moldova, Romania, etc never escaped the post soviet corrupt society lifestyle where there is little to no opportunity unless you're in the mob.

[@thegadflygang5381]

At least be thankful you weren't around for Bela Kuhn and his ilk. By the time the late 60s were coming around the Soviet Union was already facing inevitably

[@Bob-lw2kt]

You are now here...perhaps warn of the direction America is being forced...

[@thegadflygang5381]

@@Bob-lw2kt on that note I think it is actually an exciting time to be alive. We are at a cusp of history never seen before and we are right in the middle of it. And hard times bring out the best men. The whole "left right" dynamic is meaningless as are hyperbole like "racist" or "socialist" or whatever as they serve as simple go to terms for simple people. We need to deal with specifics

[@ironclad452]

Michael has a unique ability to chill out my catastrophic thinking. I'm glad he's on our side!

[@RangaLord]

I was born&live in Australia, I'm almost as old a Chris (few years younger). I am so proud of my life and the privileges I have here. I only started learning about other countries and the past. My favorite was the 'Rape of Nanking', a horrid book of a horrid history. But never is it talked about or discussed. Same as many other historical moments. I am so grateful to Chris and other podcasters for introducing me to books, specialists and many other sources of information. Never stop learning, so we can learn to build the future. We don't know anything until we ask the right questions and contest the answer with experience.

[@milanstanford4734]

An excellent podcast. I was born in communist Czechoslovakia in 1950 and remember too well how we lived in fear daily, how parents of school children disappeared, because they told the teacher that the parents were talking badly about the government. Lets not forget that Czechoslovakia and other communist countries had concentration camps as well, the same as Nazi Germany, until 1964 and in Russia till today. Why would anyone still dream about communism is beyond my understanding. I have been jailed for demonstrating and managed to escape in 1971. Keep on reminding people of the horrible past and hopefully it will not be repeated.

[@nwogamesalert]

" hopefully it will not be repeated." They are currently working very hard on it, putting the legislation in place, and installing the cameras, the smart meters, the digital ID's and the forced vaccinations. I hope you will use your experience from Czechoslovakia to help warning the people. But most of them are deaf, poisoned by the fake news media (MSM).

[@ariellelourie8030]

Russia doesn't have concentration camps today.

[@lobomedina6312]

@@ariellelourie8030 No but the CCP does. Then Justine Castreau said he admires how the CCP controls their subjects. Then biden said the camps are a "cultural norm", would not condemn.

[@black-aliss]

I think everyone likes to pretend that once the communist revolution happens, like when someone throws an imaginary lever, since we're all good, well-meaning people pure of heart, everything will click into place like magic. Like none of that authoritarianism will be needed, because we all suffered under capitalism already and we know better now. Of course, we're being coerced into authoritarianism already.

[@milanstanford4734]

@@ariellelourie8030 And you know that how? From Washington Post ???? They don't call them concentration camps anymore but the prisons in Russia for political opponents have not change

[@abyss87walker]

I finished The White Pill yesterday. It is both a horrific history lesson and a masterfully written work of art. My words could never do it justice. Everyone should read this book.

[@pedroscigar2906]

Michael somehow always reassures me about what the world could be like in the future.

[@immawakenow]

Mr Malice, a self proclaimed anarchist, actually is a breath of fresh Air. Thanks for your hard work. Great interview. I am subbin! (w/a well deserved thumbs up)

[@swesleyc7]

You can see why he's an anarchist - his distrust for govt. and fallible, human-led institutions is so deep he believes govt. should not exist. Not saying I disagree, but I totally understand. I think govt. should be minimized and decentralized so much that it exists in its most rudimentary functions. I keep telling my friends in the USA currently: it's not left vs. right. It's us, citizens vs. the government.

[@immawakenow]

@@swesleyc7 wELL SAID, AND FORMULATED. i HAVE never CONSIDERED MYSELF AN ANARCHIST, HOWEVER AS THE DAYS GO BY I THINK AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT IT. I TOO WANT MINIMIZED GOVERNMENT. N.G.O'S AREN'T EVEN BACKROUND CHECKED FOR THEIR SECURITY CLEARANCE. I AM APPALLED THAT THE PARTYS INFIGHTING AND MAD-HUNGER FOR POWER, IS GOING TO DISSOLVE WHAT RESSOLVE WE HAVE LEFT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR REPLY.

[@immawakenow]

SORRY, MY CAP BUTTON STUCK AND DIDNT USE SPELL CHECK

[@anthonywilliams7052]

Always speak up for what's right, ALWAYS! Tolerating evil got us here.

[@Teal_Seal]

“The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. They come to be accepted by degrees, by precedent, by implication, by erosion, by default, by dint of constant pressure on one side and constant retreat on the other - until the day when they are suddenly declared to be the country’s official ideology.” - Ayn Rand

[@gg_rider]

The Left are typically seriously convinced they are MORALLY right. The fierce snowflake arguments are spasms of moral virtue and self righteousness. Peter Boghossian recently interviewed a professor named Legy. Cancel culture at college. Mob descending on him. For the prologue, Peter introduces him to Hanna or Hannah now an ex-Muslim for liberty. She was once among the mob of persecutors because she was convinced he was a bad person who "caused harm" to MARGINAL-IZED groups with a few tweets and lectures looking at data. Her word choices are a tell. Hannah's awakening was coming to realize she was NOT doing as good and right is she had previously believed of herself and her allies.

[@xamidi]

Agreed. Go vegan!

[@xamidi]

@@SoGlaz Nah, I'd rather eat non-vegans than other animals.

[@6teezkid]

So well said!

[@hollyallen307]

He's not wrong. I remember graduating US high school & realizing we had covered each war extensively, almost too much - but never even touched the Cold War or Korea...

[@TopShelfTheology]

Yeah I was watching reruns of M*A*S*H in the late 90s during senior year, and I was like "was this about the Vietnam war?" and searched AltaVista online... and was like "wtf when did we go to war with Korea? And why?!"

[@CHANNELS647]

Very few people were involved in the actual cold war. It was a war of covert operations and intelligence. Other wars involved millions of people who were free to discuss their experiences and exploits.

[@johnnycomelately9400]

@@TopShelfTheology just think as well, the Korean war had more deaths than Vietnam, even though it went for about 1/4th as long.

[@DadsCigaretteRun]

I didn’t even know there was a Korea war til I got orders to Korea…that’s how bad it was taught

[@umiluv]

My parents are from Korea so I got home lessons on the Korean War. And home lessons on why communism is so terrible. Both my parents drilled it in me. Thankfully I got this education at home that wasn’t taught in school. My father had us watch when the Berlin Wall fell. I remember watching it at like 7 years old being confused why so many ppl were excited about breaking a wall. Then when pieces of the wall were on tour in the malls of the US, my dad had us take pics with it. I didn’t understand as a kid but I understand now that I’m an adult. My father was in the S Korean military for the required 2 years that every S Korean man has to do because they are still at war with N Korea. My mom has horrible stories of being hungry and going without a warm coat in the winters because of how poor they were post-Korean war. She has a cousin or uncle that was college educated and defected to the N Korea. Crazy stories like that. It’s interesting to hear stories about war from people who were directly impacted by them.

[@CamsCampbell]

Michael speaks incredibly well and knows his topic inside and out. I saw him first on TRIGGERnometry and followed him over here. Such great content. I just bought his book on Kindle.

[@bluebird6300]

Thank you Michael Malice for educating the populace of this era and that it’s ideology is crouching at Americas door

[@corinaspfx]

i was born in romania and left when i was 5 in 1982 watched the collapse of communism unfold from a safe distance: canada since then, the silence on what happened in eastern europe has been deafening so glad to see malice bringing the topic to the fore

[@elenabob4953]

So you have been part if the upper eachalon of the Communist party allowed to travel or part of the German community who was granted the great opportunity, leave everything behind ( house, car, savings etc) and be allowed to leave the country.

[@corinaspfx]

@@elenabob4953 that's interesting, why would you say this specifically? I'm keen to know more.

[@fabiansandoval6132]

My god you're gorgeous and the way you talk shows you're even more intelligent. Funny how mesmerized with just the little I know of you.

[@corinaspfx]

@@fabiansandoval6132 you are very kind and generous with your words. Wishing you well.

[@FramecoreSweden]

And now it’s happening again, in Canada amongst others.

[@cheryllocallaghan1976]

I think the most misconception of evil is that it doesn’t exist within each of us. We, individually, have the choice to act on it or not.

[@bitsynomer4610]

I think its called free will

[@alanaadams7440]

Well said

[@carolynklestinec8589]

Yes and recent events have shown how quickly humans can turn on one another . From both sides of the current debates . Disgusting, i myself often have a difficult time controling my emotions . And dont think the people in power do not know what and how to turn us . If only more people would recognize the evil within and the manipulation without . !!!

[@hanswoast7]

“If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart? During the life of any heart this line keeps changing place; sometimes it is squeezed one way by exuberant evil and sometimes it shifts to allow enough space for good to flourish. One and the same human being is, at various ages, under various circumstances, a totally different human being. At times he is close to being a devil, at times to sainthood. But his name doesn't change, and to that name we ascribe the whole lot, good and evil. Socrates taught us: >Know thyself!

[@desertrose0601]

This.

[@anthonyweinersnose2583]

Always liked Malice but didn't know he was this deep and knowledgeable. Really loved this interview.

[@group6915]

Chris Williamson is fast becoming my favorite interviewer and Michael Malice my favorite story teller, Great podcast... thanks to both.

[@lucasglowacki4683]

It’s nice to see this generation catch up to the happenings of the Cold War in Europe. I’m 50 and left Poland at 12, I escaped most of the tragedies but heard so many stories from My grandparents who survived the war and my father who was 3 when Hitler and Stalin invaded us in 1939. I just finished Bloodlands and that book is gut wrenching. Would like to see material like this taught in western schools. It’s very disappointing how this has been relatively forgotten in North America and the west.

[@simonesmit6708]

I have always felt fortunate that my parents made sure we knew what went on during ww2. They were teenagers when the nazys invaded their country and they never forgot their experiences. They never talked about what happened to them but made sure we knew that bit of history. It has been very useful for me. But most younger people are being taught that history is irrelevant.

[@scottl8469]

What are you taught about Lech Walesa? I was a junior in high school when the rise of labor against “the workers of the world united.” My father, a WWII vet, at the time said this was the point at which the iron curtain would begin to fall.

[@paulfroelich1024]

It's amazing to me how few people are aware Stalin went into Poland at roughly the same time. I'm reasonably informed and was like 32 when I found out.

[@scottl8469]

@@paulfroelich1024, seems the communists were always given a pass. There was the katyn massacre and all that…

[@lucasglowacki4683]

@@scottl8469 Walesa was a great union leader and a visionary. Not a great politician or president however. Great man but he should have known his limitations. I’m sure he had a lot of people push him into the presidency as he would win being the folk hero he was. No complaints thou! He was instrumental in the downfall of communism in Europe.

[@spleenware]

Evil always relies on wide spread conformity. Don't conform. Be weird. Disagree. It's healthy.

[@runswithraptors]

Yes there are reasons why the little guy, the radical individual is often the hero in many stories.

[@johngolden8549]

AMEN

[@Geaxuce]

Soon it'll rely on the widespread use of robots and armies of printed people... Star wars style

[@chaosdweller]

Be weird , ...got! it! Roger that.

[@Nill757]

“Don’t conform” Thats the naive take. Can’t just make up your own language, drive wrong side of the road, smack anybody you don’t like, most likely not to be independent but to attract attention to yourself as radical. That’s not brave. That challenge is to be aware of social norms, have some respect for why they are there, and then as a young adult decide which ones you reject and why, deal w the consequences.

[@jghk5866]

I could listen to Michael Malice all day.

[@tg5372]

I've listened to Michael talk to Lex about his book. I now have it sitting on my night stand. Hope that my teenage sons read it some day. After all, we all were born in Ukraine. I simply had to have it. The subject is not easy to talk about. Chris beautifully took us on a journey, helping Michael make the conversation so impactful and so powerful. Thank you to both of you. Thank you to Micheal for his book.

[@spidey677]

Michael is a great guest on everything he’s on. He’s delivery is very light hearted no matter how dark a topic can be. That’s a true gift.

[@midmomom2490]

Well said!!

[@alanaadams7440]

The Irish way

[@katelane8016]

I love that about him! And it is such a gift in the times we're living.

[@chad9017]

Very uplifting. I love his description of how Gorbachev woke up to find out the Berlin wall had fallen. He helps me to believe similar things can happen all over the world if people just start talking to each other.

[@avicenna1977]

I listened to Michael Malice's interviews with both Lex and Mikaela, and this was his best foot forward. Props to Chris Williamson on his ever improving refinement of the art of a meaningful interview.

[@kg6itc]

I could not get through the one with Lex. Kinda wish Malice didn't do it at all.

[@kctaz6189]

The fall of the Berlin Wall didn't happen overnight. It took a whole lot of determination, bravery, smarts and it took President Ronald Reagan, Pope John Paul II, Lech Walesa, Maggie Thatcher and their actions and leadership to bring it down. It was a day I never thought I'd be alive to see and I was fairly young when it did fall. I will never forget this and I still remember what Pope John Paul said regarding bringing down the Soviet Union , "The tree was already rotten. I just gave it a good shake and the rotten apples fell."

[@pstewart5443]

I remember that night when the wall came down. I remember watching it on every channel, specifically though, MTV. I kept thinking, wow what a time to be alive. I recall missile attack drills in elementary all through middle school, but then they just stopped. About three years after the last drills the wall came down. It did go from being the central point of everything to not being spoken about. It was strange, but like all oppressive things, one day it's in your face, but the next day it's as if it never happened.

[@riledmouse4677]

I’ve followed Michael Malice for a few years now, and I’m convinced I’ve learned more from him than almost any other person in my life. He makes me a less ignorant, more compassionate, overall better, deeper human being. He might be one of the closest things I have to a hero. I’m very grateful for him, and to Chris for this genuinely flawless interview.

[@NashvilleDave]

Yo same. He’s my absolute favorite.

[@thegadflygang5381]

​@@NashvilleDave what does he say of value? For example my parents are huge Fox fans and I simply cannot engage with it for more than a few moments as they Gatekeep and dance around every real issue and more importantly solution. "the intellectual dark web" are the same, except ethnically identical and smelling their own farts as they gaslight (as pretty much anyone dealing with real politik post 2017 still allowed on KZbin is controlled opposition). Shapiro, Harris, the Weinsteins, Malice are all so contrarian and duplicitous as they push egalitarian lies and mythod while advocating for their own ethno-state

[@Yuki-bk2my]

@@thegadflygang5381 literally none of those people advocate for an ethno state, i dont know how disconnected from reality one has to be to believe this.

[@thegadflygang5381]

@@Yuki-bk2my you cant be that ignorant. Ben Shapiro who proudly stated "I dont give a damn about the Browning of America" ONLY EXISTS ON THIS PLANET FOR ONE REASON. To keep his Israel an ethnostate. Samw with Dennis Praeger, he will Tweet something about "America, equality and welcoming all" and then immediately Tweet "Why the Jooish people are chosen and Israel must remain ours". Same with the Weinsteins and Peterson. They cream in their pants when talking about Israel and then discuss their hatred of most Europeans

[@Professor__S]

The Lex Freeman podcast with Michael is well worth watching. Great energy between them.

[@russandomire7349]

I was appalled by the number of people on NextDoor who during Covid went into mask policing of their neighborhood. Some fry cook in the back of a fast food place would be spotted with his mask not covering his nose. The tattling was ubiquitous on that app.

[@chezoreo1336]

Mask karens called the cops during that time. Thankfully, they put on FB that they just don't have the time to respond to those calls. Unfortunate, isn't it?

[@anderslennartsson1828]

That is a poor comparison, having actual tought police is not really the same as trying to stop a pandemic. Do you feel oppressed by having to stop at red lights aswell?

[@chezoreo1336]

@@anderslennartsson1828 the fact that masks don't work is important here. Many of us saw it for what it is, a form of social control. Others just put in their muzzle because they don't know that they live, and we're always raised on a farm.

[@anderslennartsson1828]

@@chezoreo1336 yeah but you do know thats not true right? Why do you think hospital personell have been using masks for so long before covid even was a thing? Did we invent masks when covid came? No we didnt. Do you think someone decided to create a mask conspiracy to make hospitals buy masks year after year? That would be the dumbest conspiracy ever. Just because someone makes a study that points to something doesn't make it true. If you want to, you can order a study to prove that the moon is made of cheese. You have to look at the bigger picture. Even if masks wasn't a foolproof protection it still definitely helped.

[@chezoreo1336]

@@anderslennartsson1828 first off, I appreciate you engaging. I don't think you are right, but that's ok. Masks are good for all sorts of things. Airborne viruses isn't one of them. They are great for blocking fluids going in unexpected directions. Not viruses. Too small. Look up John Campbell. He has a you tube channel. Recently, within a couple weeks, another study came out. Yet another study, and it reinforces what many of us know already. This study encompassed over 600,000 people and is a cross section of many other studies. It looked at masks. Red state/blue state, school/store/hospital, cloth/surgical/n95. Here's a quick summary. Cloth and surgical did nothing. Zero. Confirmed. Doesn't matter what setting or state policy. N95, almost zero. So close to zero it was statistically insignificant and more probable that the effect was zero. My choice of words has to do with confidence intervals. Go look it up yourself. He is from the UK, was a huge masker and vaxxer and I've been watching him get redpilled in real time. So here's my question: have you heard a claim by conspiracy theorists that you dismissed at first, but then later learned it was true? I'll go first. Epstein Island. The Q folks said there was a pedo ring that involved high level people. I said pshaw. Then we get Epstein. Not only did he have a whole island dedicated to it, but many banks, politicians, and intelligence agencies were involved. Crazy. So how about you? Lab leak? Masks? IVM? Hunters laptop? Epstein? Excess deaths? Ukraine? Nordstream? Remdesivir? Mandates? Vax pass? CBDC? Easy Palestine? Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot? J6? It seems as though it would be easier to enumerate the examples of the government telling the truth.

[@JerGol]

This was a very well conducted interview, Chris. Thank you for your efforts at extracting this and for giving it so much room to breathe.

[@evolveyourself9518]

Problem is the so-called "bad guys" believe they're the good ones ...just like we all believe we're the good ones. No one believes they're bad.

[@janetwhite7786]

That is quite the conundrum. Any thinking person must question, "Are we the baddies?"

[@GoldQuestMontana]

We homeschool, and I am a fan of Malice’s work, so I think I will read this and draw from it for our history lessons. Thanks for the conversation, gentlemen. - Jessica

[@jdsartre9520]

hope for future freedom of humankind sits in Montana

[@Tom-qp6oh]

Thanks for homeschooling! I hope your kids become our future leaders!

[@RunninUpThatHillh]

Tons of people homeschool now. The smart ones always have.

[@MissChievousRN]

Follow Kris Anne Hall. She's a Constitutional lawyer and has a podcast but also has a curriculum you could definitely teach from.

[@GunShark0]

If you haven't already, read Animal Farm. Let the kids read it when they're ready. Goes really well with this interview. Definitely had a massive impact on me back in high school. Maybe even more so than 1984.

[@JaketheJust]

I’ve always enjoyed listening to Michael. He’s the kind of friend you always know will make you laugh and enjoy life.

[@10.6.12.]

Watching these interviews is a kind of university; books, names, philosophy, a cornacopia of civil and inquisitive discourse ... Many, many thanks and G-D BLESS Mr. Christopher Williamson.

[@VertexCarver]

This was one stellar episode. Thank you guys. I really have to pick up the book. Edit: Book acquired.

[@MrMemozzza]

Love that Michael has a typical Soviet-era suit and cut, he is way ahead in embracing our future woke socialist masters. Epic Podcast!

[@lucasglowacki4683]

The cut reminded me more of a turn of the century Ukrainian peasant. He’s missing the puffy shirt and red boots😬

[@JayyyCloud]

A true English socialist

[@mat4701]

One time he wore a propellor-hat to Tim Pool. He is such a troll.

[@aaworks8212]

All I see is simple jack

[@spookyplaystation]

that will do donkey that will do

[@FXTRT-ec9lz]

Great video. I served in the US Army from 1987 to 1993. In October 1989 I received orders to report to 8th US Army in Yongson South Korea. I arrived in January 1990. I ended up assigned to 2nd Infantry Division Korea. By February 1990 I was on my first 90 day mission at the DMZ. My second was in February to June 1991. In Korea, at that time, the "cold war" became a very real thing right in my face. Today, people look at me like I am from Mars when I tell them about those of us who served on the DMZ. People knew nothing about the "cold war" in those days. Know even less about it now. Those of who served won't forget. I was serving in Korea during Gulf War 1. I actually miss those days.

[@addahandle-k8d]

All the best man 🙂

[@user-cj1bi6kl4y]

WE remember, some of us. Thank you for your service.

[@Teal_Seal]

I visited the DMZ when I worked in South Korea. I realized that zone is there as much to keep people IN as it is to keep others out. It’s a prison. While there, I heard a Korean tour guide tell her group north and south might be united if not for the US presence in South Korea. I wanted to ask her “Really?? Which side would capitulate?!” 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@NYG5]

The more authentic 90s Korea must have been hella cool.

[@nextworld9176]

@@Teal_Seal Our US Army was there in force, prepared to defend against an invasion from the north. But to be frank, we were probably really there to prevent the South from taking over the North.

[@Betcaligarcia]

My mother who left Cuba in 1966 is still tormented about living under Castro and the Russians during the early years of the revolution…. I went to Cuba in 2004 and while there I called my mother complaining about the food and government…. She cut my call because she was worried people were listening.

[@angiewoodward4166]

This is so personal! My mother grew up in east Berlin and my whole childhood Was these stories.

[@briannguyen6248]

I love the positivity micheal has! We need more of this. My family escaped during the height of the Vietnam war and I’m so grateful to be born here even if my education was during common core. I’ll be aiming to tailor homeschool my kids somehow.

[@OkTxSheepLady]

In the 1960’s I spoke with a man who was a truck driver. He drove from Michigan ( a union state) to Texas (a right to work state) on a weekly basis. The teamsters’ union in Michigan wanted him to join their union. When he refused they sent thugs to beat him up. The third time he was beaten the men told him as they were leaving what time his little girl got out of school, the address, and that they wouldn’t be dealing with him any more but his daughter. He joined the union. Every time I hear someone say something about good paying union jobs I think of that kind man and his “choice” to join the union. Bullies are in these united States, they just aren’t as well known.

[@loreman7267]

F me sideways! I had NO idea!

[@JerGol]

Join the union, keep the head down, set aside some money, move to the other state, leave the union.

[@anonymousAJ]

Some unions are mob operations

[@OkTxSheepLady]

@@anonymousAJ are any not?

[@dedf15]

I would have had a chat with the feds first, then wrote to the newspaper, and then gone to the union boss and said "excuse me, that's not going to continue."

[@jameswilliamsgb]

Another excellent interview from Chris. He does his homework before the interview but allows the interviewee to explain what they are about, interrupting mainly to clarify certain points.

[@darioinfini]

I listen to such long form interviews over time -- 2 hours is well beyond my attention span at this point. BUT, I enjoyed every part of it. It was a great interview, a great host, and a great guest. Well done all of you.

[@trlspann]

Holy cow. That part where Michael talks about neither Reagan or Gorbachev wanting to press the nuclear button got me good.

[@Thepurplepotatocat]

15:54 LMAO "I was on my buddy's Dave Smiths podcast. He's a very failed comedian..." So subtle, so brutal. I love this man😂

[@kevshan6518]

Brilliant. 😁👍. Have always made myself aware of the pure good and pure evil of humanity. He really gave it emotional depth. Sadly, we are entering a time where the whole west is on the cusp of going either way. Only thing that will stop it is humans coming together, regardless of race, colour or creed. Best of luck all. Love from Ireland 🇮🇪 ❤️

[@revenant2979]

I found this interview by chance. I'm from South Africa. I was a senior in high school when the Berlin wall fell, a student when the Soviet Union fell. As soon as that wall fell, talks by the apartheid government with the ANC started to end Apartheid. As the South African Communist Party is in alliance with the ANC. We had a great man to go through a mainly bloodless transformation and President Mandela ensured that we will stay a mainly and prosperous country from 1994 to 2005. We were completely self sufficient on many things but most importantly a stable economic free-market system. Then the rot set in and politicians under the guise of "transformation" started stealing from goverment funds. Absolutely massive amounts. There are now nine illiterate people and people that are starving in South Africa, and more race laws against white South Africans that has been in the country since the middle to end of the 17th century. That is before the French Revelution and before the independence of the USA. Since 1994 white farmers were murdered on there farms (that came out to be politically motivated) Nothing gets stolen but the farmer, farmers wife and children gets tortured to death) Usely the farmer last after acts like throughing hot water down a babies throat and the baby raped, all children cut opened and bodies mutilated after hours of torture, the wife gets raped in front of the farmer and also torched for example by drilling holes into the body. These methods were learned by the ANC's military wing MK, in Zambia that got training from the Soviet Union. It's a absolute genocide of which people do not know of farmers just because of there race. 80% of South African land belongs to the Goverment and 100% what's beneath it. Millions of very skilled professionals has left the country and the country has a grey status as a nation with Communist agendas still taking place eg The expropriation of land without compensation. For the first time since after the ww2, about 1.5 million children are dying of malnutrition. For the docters that's left Cuban docters are flown in at tremendously high prices while politically sactioned middle men makes huge profit. For instance a roll of toilet paper cost $3 for the single electricity provider that only provides electricity 4 to 8 hours a day. I can buy a roll of tiolet paper for 0.50c at my local supermarket. Thank you for a very enlightening interview and how far the Soviet Unions tentacles stretched in the past.

[@janelleyu9442]

I really enjoy listening to Micheal, a huge fan for the last several years. He speaks so well and is just poignant with the way he expresses his words. I also love his sense of humor 😅

[@phillipimsdahl3563]

I am 65 and this was a great history lesson. Reading this book should be mandatory for anyone under forty.

[@Patchaddictedpolymath]

Currently reading it while on vacation 🤙

[@relatablecontent2531]

How do we get people educated on history? Michael, make history great again!

[@ivazic225]

I thought it was going to be something optimistic and all I hear you talk about is how horrible it was in the Soviet Union. Thanks for brightening up my day! 😆

[@KapteinFruit]

Chris is a very, very good listener. He let people talk, yet he thinks for himself.

[@octopus4925]

Imo he's the best interviewer out there currently. Because he reads the material beforehand, has incredibly knowledgeable and unbiased guests on, and remembers what the previous guests said and cross-references that info with the current guest so we can see how each guest's input fits with the others. I'm so grateful for this podcast lol very high quality

[@n2oshotandironman]

Seeing this comment after that PBD podcast that Malice appeared on is perfect lol

[@friendlyfire7861]

I've seen people do evil things just to feel important. It's as real as a soft summer rain.

[@elenabob4953]

I think we usually underestimate what envious and greedy people are capable to do. We still have a lot if people who covet other person's goods Evei if they didn't put up the work to obtain those goods.

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

managed to find time to finish watching. SUPERB discussion. I saw Michael on Tim Pool last year and he blew me away with his knowledge. REALLY researches his stuff. Gona buy his book but not from Amazon. All the best to Michael, You did an AMAZING job here. All the best to you too Chris

[@Musiclover-uo2oi]

We ran from Czechoslovakia (the Slovak side) in November 1968 just after the Russian invasion. My parents were terrified and we came successfully to Canada. There were families that defected and left their children behind hoping to get them later after they were established elsewhere. Unfortunately, their children were not allowed to leave and follow them, and when they returned to take their children away, they were imprisoned. Fortunately my parents refused to leave without us two little girls. There were however repercussions: both my parents were found guilty of abandoning their homeland and were given prison sentences in absentia, and both my uncles were thrown out of university. Communism is corrupt, evil, and the most inhumane system there is. Like Churchill said “ capitalism is the unequal sharing of wealth, but communism is the equal sharing of misery”. Life is Canada over the past 54 years has been a joy and a blessing.

[@sononi4798]

Best podcast about Michael 's book I've seen so far. I really got what he's trying to achieve with this book and it's so beautiful! I already liked MM quite a bit but this made me really love him for the research, work, time and passion he put into getting this out there.

[@OGRE_HATES_NERDS]

i feel like i dont need to read the book now

[@midmomom2490]

@@OGRE_HATES_NERDS agree!! This has no baring on his book but those ill informed need to read it among a lot of other like minded books!

[@angiewoodward4166]

This was such a great podcast! The book and what it communicates is so needed! My mother was born in east Berlin and was deeply traumatized by what she lived through. She called me and cried the day the wall fell. I totally agree with what they talked about at the beginning concerning the lack of response when the Cold War was over. I was born in 1958 and the Cold War was my whole life. Then when it was over I remember being shocked at the lack of coverage in the news media. They covered what happened in each country but then completely moved on!

[@Williamottelucas]

Indeed (born in 1957)

[@bbblackwell]

In this way, the worldview of the masses is engineered. Fahrenheit 451, 1984... We have no way of discerning the truth about the past. I look to history for lessons, for its allegorical value. Until the world is cleansed of wide-scale corruption, and is gathering and sharing information earnestly and honestly, we must rely on "a priori", first-hand experience, and metaphor to align our perspective with Truth.

[@davocc2405]

I was genuinely upset when I found out that Gorbachev had visited our city that day and was signing his book after giving a speech - I didn't even know he was in the country until after it was all over, even a chance such as that to meet him would have been a major life marker for me. I consider him to be one of the greatest figures of the 20th century - we're all alive thanks to him, he somehow managed to diffuse the collapse of a quite so broken system in a way that didn't end in thermonuclear war. How he was treated especially in later life - passing away during the depths of Putin's tyrannical invasion and seeing all his work thrown against the wall like that - it's one of the greatest tragedies that nobody talks about.

[@Babalouie59]

I appreciate Michael Malice's aforethought. Thank you for a great interview Chris. My favorite Berlin Wall story: Right after WW II, the Berlin Wall was only a few feet tall. When Christmas time approached a Russian truck backed up to the wall and dumped a load of garbage onto the US/West German side. Our GIs immediately got out and cleaned up the mess. The next day the GIs backed up a truck and dumped a load of clothes, food, candy and toys on the East German side. And on top of the pile they stuck a sign which read, "Each Gives What They Have." Btw, Mikhail Gorbachev's best acting scene was in Wim Wender's classic flick, "Faraway, So Close". (1993)

[@navtektv]

The parallels to what happened in the Soviet Union and what is happening today in the western world is very hard to ignore. Michaels words today showed me exactly how far we are from that state of affairs being replicated at home and its closer than I would like it to be. We have been complacent and still remain complacent and while Malice talks about the white pill I can only thing about what is coming and to be honest, it seems very bleak.

[@oakson3045]

The silver lining I see doesn't involve us avoiding that bleak future but pushing through it - never before has there been as decentralized and well armed a society that has been on the brink of revolution. I'm excited for the future, the coming societal upheaval will be just as much an opportunity for us as it has been the Authoritarian Left.

[@householdone7559]

With you there Navnit. People are still ignoring it.

[@reekinronald6776]

We are certainly approaching it. With regard to Culture, almost every new Netflix or TV series is obviously pushing the LGBQ agenda. Recall watching a fantasy show on Netflix were every character was openly gay, bisexual, or made comments they were bisexual. People are banned on Social media for wrong think. We may not be in the same place as Soviet Russia, but we are heading there at warp speed.

[@clairehann2681]

@@oakson3045 what are you expecting to happen?

[@oakson3045]

@@clairehann2681 The problem with tyrannical authoritarians is that...they have to rule. The chuckle fucks that have taken control of the institutions of this country clearly aren't up to the task of running with a level of acumen that is palatable to the average American. People are going broke, and there isn't enough propaganda in the world to convince someone that they're not hungry, homeless and generally broke. The rubber band is being pulled back and it's going to hit the authoritarian left in the eye, and I'll laugh as we seize power once again.

[@lukesmith1818]

My history teacher loaned me a book showing how the Soviets would doctor photographs, exactly like the ministry of truth to edit history. Pictures with Trotsky in it had him scrubbed away. Yezhov. Gone after he'd served his purpose. They had before and after photos to show how stark the difference was. Never forgotten it

[@clairehann2681]

It's what the woke left activists have been doing a lot lately. I've seen it specifically in the context of gay activism to focus trans activism. Everything important to the LGB struggle has been coopted by "trans" figures. It's very weird. Similar with ascribing Trans roles to famous women, like Joan of Arc and Louisa May Alcott, as though sexism didn't inform their behaviors or how they were treated.

[@livingitup9647]

@@clairehann2681 INDEED! It is more than weird. I would call this trend pathological -- even a form of temporary insanity...the kind that overtakes members of cults. Strange times we are in.

[@KeepItReal1]

Agreed, WW2 did a lot of that, too. Those who exposed the lies were killed off.

[@joycegifford8826]

Thank you Mr Malice… They will never be forgotten…

[@russellsmith3503]

Huge fan of Michael Malice. Smart and reasoned.

[@tigreytigrey8537]

Just lacks critical thought abilities. Thinking everyone will just "play by the rules" in his fairytale concepts.

[@sethriggen5255]

I just watched this entire podcast with just two 5 minute breaks, and I have a bit of add. These two minds give me hope for humanity.

[@theyetti90]

I've watched Michael with Alex Jones, with Tim Pool, and probably a few others, but I never realized how much alike he and I were. To remain hopeful and positive while fighting, and with all the horrible stuff, that's my life, and it's beautiful.

[@crazyman0937]

Its been a year since i read the White Pill. Ive decided to watch this episode and read the book through once more. I think I will make it a yearly tradition to ground myself in reality each year. I thank you both for doing this episode.

[@Grim-Crusader]

There are people still in jail for January 6th and have not been given a trial, not only can IT happen here, it is happening here

[@jamenb7344]

And if they were antifa, you'd cheer it on.

[@Digital_PeterGriffin]

@@jamenb7344 You’re 40 lmao

[@prodigaldaughter00]

This is the best podcast either one of them has ever done- in my humble opinion. Chris is an incredibly gifted interviewer, and I always enjoy Malice most when he's the subject.

[@lesbianmustardbottle957]

Who is Malice and what does he do?

[@katelane8016]

I loved so many moments of your conversation throughout this talk. The banality of evil cannot be overstated. It leaves me nonplussed daily how many intelligent friends/family don't question the staggering changes destroying good human freedoms. I will look for Michael's book - I hope it comes in audiobook. Thank you for this edifying interview. Great questions, Chris. Thoughtful and pertinent, and drawing out Michaels's extensive, amazing knowledge.

[@kroninn]

I appreciate that Malice narrates his books for Audible. I have a busy life and it's the only way I can consume books. I've listened to another book he wrote along with around 100 others since 2015.

[@ronboprime]

I'm glad someone with your reverence, is the one telling these stories. @micheal malice

[@EsmondLyons]

Currently here in EmpireUSA the portion of the population that refused the jab was ostracized, fired, denied public assistance and even medical care while the compliant jab takers completely went along. In essence we learned that many of our friends and neighbors were not our friends, that they would encourage oppression against others and at the very least blandly accepted authoritarian rules that violated the law of the land.

[@maryoleary899]

Our unvaxed blood will be very valuable😂

[@desertrose0601]

Yuuuuuup. 😑

[@jmifyourelazy8312]

Next time the country shuts down, will there be more or less people that go along with it? Michael says take the white pill, my faith in others was destroyed during covid. Stay strong out there.

[@phyrr2]

Absolutely. The entire ordeal was a shit test and we failed miserably. Perhaps not as bad as our societal contemporaries like Australia, New Zealand Britain and Canada, but we still failed.

[@byHugodotcom]

As an ex German, like Kohl I thought I had a better understanding of the wall. Said to my skiing buddy in the fall of 1989 “that will take decades to get rid of”.

[@ivantuma7969]

For the first time, I gained some respect for Michael Malice. My parents left Czechoslovakia in 1969, but through a series of unfortunate events, as a child I wound up staying until 1975. I did find it very ironic how HE said he can't stand cynicism.

[@Chicharrera.]

Michael reminds me of Nicholas Cage in Ghost Rider, where he avenges the souls of those murdered by evil criminals and transfers into each one of them the collective terror all their victims felt as judgement for their crimes, thereby rendering the criminals catatonic from the weight of that combined trauma.

[@janetwhite7786]

Now THAT warms my heart!

[@Aarondavid1998]

One important aspect that seems to be forgotten is the impact of Pope John Paul II on the war against communism in Eastern Europe in cooperation with Reagan and Thatcher. Poland was completely impacted by a Catholic revival

[@ChuckyLarms]

It’s a shame Francis is doing the opposite and promoting the WEF

[@steelcrown7130]

Just started and have come across the discussion about not knowing much about the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of Communism. Just hilarious and sweet, because you two are so YOUNG! I was 29 when it all happened and it was the most cataclysmic event of my life. I still have press clippings. SO glad that people are starting to realise the significance and study it as history rather than some sort of vague recent past.

[@e.daniels5971]

There are a lot of podcasts out there with a lot of conversations between a lot of interesting people. Some are not very good, but also there are many that are. Such a vast format. Still, no matter the endeavor, it's really, really hard to be GREAT. This was a great podcast.

[@sanguinesurfer]

I watched the whole thing and my favorite part was Michael’s laugh when you said you’ve never seen Roman numerals go up so high 😂😂😂❤

[@friarnewborg9213]

Wow. I was luek-warm about listening to this, but after 10 -20 minutes, I was hooked and could not stop. Well done both! I want to get the book!

[@michellestoppa6162]

Great show and very enlightening, considering Canada 🇨🇦 is heading fast into this!

[@Williamottelucas]

New Zealand, Australia . . .

[@livingitup9647]

@@Williamottelucas And most terrifyingly, the U.S. and our vaunted democratic experiment is crumbling under the weight of corporate capture, globalism, the War Machine and a creeping tyranny and totalitarianism. In 3 short, catastrophic years we've all been brought to the precipice. It is truly, literally, mind-blowing.

[@laurakosch]

Look up Agile nations - secret international meetings since 2020. Canadá volunteered to take the lead in digital ID, hence the horrific ArriveCan. Leslyn Lewis broke this troubling story.

[@sifridbassoon]

during the early 80s, I was in graduate school and worked as a teaching fellow teaching German. My students would often ask me if the Berlin Wall would ever fall, and I smugly poo-pooed the idea. Many years later, I was driving home from work when the news broke about the wall coming down. I pulled over to the side of the freeway and just sat in shock.

[@KarinainOZ]

I don’t agree with everything Michael says but damn it, he makes me think! Always a pleasure to listen to someone so articulate and thoughtful.

[@johnheath5373]

Malice is open minded, honest and of superior intellect. He does not suffer fools and should be regarded as one of the highest quality thinkers and writers of our time. He also has a great sense of humor which is rare amongst his insufferable contemporaries.

[@fergferguson7370]

How about that haircut?😜

[@jiujitsukitty9319]

He suffered eliza blue for two hours on his podcast. After 2 minutes of her talking even I could see she was full of shit. I have great respect and admiration for Malice but damn does he suffer pretty idiots when they come on his show.

[@OlgaDerevinska]

Thank you for an awesome interview, Chris. Being Ukrainian myself, I appreciate the light that Michael is shining on the history of communism. Thank you.

[@ccmusic2249]

This is my second time through this episode. It's so encouraging. The sun breaks through the clouds little by little.

[@janetwhite7786]

There is a really positive lecture u can find on utube rn. Michael Schellenbergers "Escaping the Woke Matrix".. Cant recommend enough.