WHYY Do We Keep Making Expensive Webcams?? - Razer Kiyo Pro

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Razer made a high end webcam with some really cool features.. I just don't know why when there are so many better options for less than $199.
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[@Senpai]

Want to get your feedback. For how many of you is the simple plug and play/consistency of a webcam enough to buy it over the GoPro or phone setup?

[@ClassicRuben]

Couple hundred for a 4K webcam isn’t bad though compare to a 4K camera or newer 4K iPhone. If money is a big issue, then I can see going with go pro or the phone you have at the moment. But for streaming 4K isn’t really necessary either. Most viewers can’t even watch streams at that high quality anyways.

[@GODS_AK007]

Legit one of the only things stopping me buying a Camera to stream is having to get my hands on an Elgato Camlink, I do use an iPhone XS Max camera though.

[@JonnySweatpants]

Honestly, for me, I'd rather plug and play. Sure I'm tech savvy, but I just don't want to fiddle with things any longer. I just want things to work, without having to mess around with behind the scenes settings, extra cables, extra software, etc...

[@supportmachine]

I guess you can zoom out the ryzer cam to that 103. I have ryzer Kiyo but first cam and that cam was zoomed in automatically

[@shadetreemaker38]

I just started a twitch stream and have been using a spare galaxy note 10+. If I could find my gopro hero 5 I would use it. To answer your question... I would stick with my cell phone untill getting a Dslr would make my stream better. But if I could find that darn gopro I would buy a cam link.. lol

[@Trombonaut]

Loved the Razer Kiyo over... everything else! The sharp image and higher contrast made every image pop so much more than the others. Every time there were multiple cams on the screen, my eyes landed on the Kiyo. Just found it on sale and I'll definitely pick it up. Thanks for the side-by-sides!

[@Björntobewild]

I just got it! It's going to make viral for sure! J/K i am just a nobody

[@SirFred3]

@@Björntobewildall KZbinrs start as weird nobodies you just need to grind 🙏🏾

[@HectorHernandez-pg4iy]

​@@Björntobewild you're already somebody bro

[@EposVox]

06:43 It's not just a software crop - even though most webcams are. It works just like a GoPro! You can see this in the pincushion effect of your doors on the right of the image. In Linear, they are straight up and down, in Wide, they are bowed inward. The lenses are changing the FOV. :) This is illustrated again at 10:43 when you're discussing the "distance" you seem from the camera. The fisheye effect of the lens changes keep you feeling up close while keeping the wide FOV. AVerMedia PW513 doesn't, meaning the lines are straighter but you feel further away.

[@isocuda]

"EposVox viewers also watch this channel" came up on this video's thumbnail. I can confirm the metric is accurate, I am a research nerd.

[@JeffRevell]

I was just about to point this out. The slight zoom is a linear option so all of the distortion from the wide-angle 103 is now gone. Look at the door frames between the two shots and you will see that they are curved in the wide shot and straight in the linear mode. As said, just like the GOPro does.

[@herranton]

With the gopro, linear mode is done in software. You can do the same thing in after effects.

[@kanthpol9236]

Hi Bro, i have standard ps4. During play time video quality is good. however when i record gameplay, recorded video quality is terrible. I have tried change settings without much luck. Will buying a capture card help improve quality in 4K? I will be grateful if you can help.

[@Berfs1]

Normally I don't comment on the ads, usually I find them annoying. But this one, StreamBeats. Seriously I can't thank you enough for the amount of time and effort you have personally put into this project for music that doesn't have copyrights. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.

[@IntentionalTech]

This is pretty much a masterclass in how to review something, right down to the best explanation of dynamic range that I’ve ever heard. Definitely think the go pro looks the best.

[@andresmontero1654]

Unboxing at 3:30 Trying the Kiyo Pro 5:53 Kiyo Pro HDR 8:14 Time to Compare 12:03

[@Manorian]

Actually much preferred the Razer Kiyo to everything that wasn't the goPro. Would be interested to see the goPro hero 8's built in webcam, in comparison to the goPro second hand build

[@USEC3]

For the price of the hero 8 i would rather get a cheap used DSLR

[@EthosAtheos]

@@USEC3 The Hero8 has a huge advantage of being smaller than a DSLR. Also I think you'd be hard pressed to get good glass and a DSLR for the price of a Hero8. That said I am using a 5dmk2 and sigma art lens. So I clearly got the low cost DSLR.

[@USEC3]

@@EthosAtheos a cam like a Rebel T7 with the kit lens still gonna produce much better picture quality than a Hero 8 and i personally hate the fisheye optic on the Go pros..

[@EthosAtheos]

@@USEC3 I don't disagree about the lens in the Hero8 it is clearly an action camera. I don't like wide shots for streaming. I have a photography background and I prefer flat fields for most compositions.

[@PappaTsunami]

Personally been having some issues with a hero 7 with streaming with it over heating. Idk how closely that relates to the 8 but my hero 4 hasn't had any issues whatsoever

[@adriengaro5289]

I felt like the razor cam was best at of all the options tbh. Image looked very sharp. I don't mind losing a little bit of dynamic range and having parts of my skin a little too white since in general, this makes imperfections of the skin go away and makes me look better lol

[@ryan12572]

GoPro feels like the most natural looking to me, If you have that understanding of settings for cameras you have the most freedom to tweak it until its perfect also the color just looks better in my opinion.

[@shaneinfinity4597]

yupp. doesn't hurt to go that route and learn how to do all those things also. You gain knowledge, save money, and have better camera quality

[@cesco_rc]

Yes. For me the Gopro is the best option. Best field of view, most natural colors. Just a better camera. And if you have a channel like me where you already use Action cameras. It is a no brainer.

[@brilliantFlame]

same here

[@BloodstainedLiz]

while seeing all options from that video. I 100% agree, gopro looks best. But I had to go for my setup with a huddlecamHD because i wanted a ptz/eptz camera with a remote.

[@MrSchism]

The Avermedia looks kinda blurry to me. The Logitech is no better, but at least it has a depth of field that adds that lovely bokeh as opposed to the avermedia which really doesn't. That said, the Razer looked way more defined. The iPhone camera looked smudged as hell, so hard to tell, but the GoPro looked good. Still not as sharp as the Kiyo Pro, but good.

[@xsmockjrx]

Exactly my thoughts. The Razer out performed everything he put of against it, except the go pro, slightly, because it has 60fps.

[@xsmockjrx]

I didn't know the Kiyo Pro had 60fps as well lol

[@Chapizard]

@@xsmockjrx It has 60 but not in HDR mode if I'm not mistaken.

[@frida507]

Yes the iPhone looked the worst.

[@CrowHaven7]

Me being a faceless youtuber: Interesting

[@GangsterDolphins]

Joined 7 months ago, 162 subs. Calls himself a youtuber? Good luck man

[@CrowHaven7]

@@GangsterDolphins hell yeah man, I know I ain't gonna make it but I sure do enjoy making videos good covid past time imp.

[@BadassBobY]

@@GangsterDolphins at least he's consistent tho

[@TheReaper1]

Keep it up! Don’t listen to anyone telling you otherwise.

[@Naotakun]

@@GangsterDolphins he's already gained 5 more subs since you posted. The man also averages just as many views as he has subs, and in many cases mores. Try not to be so rude. Keep it up CrowHaven.

[@Isdale]

Loving this video, great AB comparison style. However, the audio-video sync is driving me mental haha

[@mirkwoodforest]

"This thing is CHONKY" Daniel Thrasher and the Jazz Demon: *sO yOu suMonEd mE, mAsTur*

[@thunderus5678]

*piano jazz*

[@Nicthestick]

That FONKY CHONKY

[@tempestgaming3540]

That good good

[@rockjock32492]

really loved this video especially how you switched between all cams and at other times had multiple cams on screen at the same time. You really let the audience see the difference and evaluate for themselves the different outputs.

[@overdev1993]

really funny to get a ad for an "alternative" copyright free music for streaming artist

[@enenragaming3053]

i got the same aha!

[@Nitrez]

Hi! I’m a new KZbinr and was hoping I could have a little support! I started about 2 years ago and have already grown a successful amount! I do lots of cool vids and love and notice every single subscriber, thank you

[@gxpftw1945]

@@Nitrez btw u wont grow by doing this

[@jordanlee2262]

@@gxpftw1945 yep he wont

[@HoodieGhoulGaming]

@@Nitrez this is the worst thing you could do if you want to grow

[@minerfacebach266]

Just picked up the kiyo pro for $99 super glad I wait for Amazon to have a sale

[@Sheepona1994]

So I found myself looking at your beard, and the Razer has such a clearer view and details don't seem to betting blurred together. Razer would be my choice. GoPro coloring is best but the Razer's detail is what I am liking

[@jo_naash]

You all rave about the razer's detail, but the reality is that the Razor is just horribly oversharpened. You can put the same sharpening filter on top of the GoPro and it will look much sharper than the Razer

[@Frosty_V0]

@@jo_naash no, u cant

[@Frosty_V0]

@@jo_naash also, something can’t be over sharpened

[@jo_naash]

@@Frosty_V0 The GoPro is a 4k camera and I'd say it has a similar if not better lens. If you have something to prove me wrong then do so, but I really think the razer is super soft, so they just applied a super heavy sharpening effect to hide that fact.

[@Frosty_V0]

@@jo_naash How can you tell that the razer doesn’t have natural details? By that logic, every camera with sharp and high image quality would be fake. The razer might not have the best coloring or lighting, but it beats the GoPro in ease of use, image quality, FOV, and its in the razer ecosystem, so for people like me who mainly have razer gear, it is with all the other items.

[@jenniferlusher7806]

You saved me soooooooo much time by telling me my iPhone could be a webcam. Dude. You earned a subscriber just for that!

[@CamdenBell]

imma keep it a stack, no chance I would pay $200 for this when there are so many other options for cheaper. just makes no sense, love the videos Heller!

[@bikerboy3k]

No. Bro I got a Sony Xperia z5 connected through obs droid Wi-Fi. Its hands down the best video quality you'll see in a webcam.

[@sanketh8346]

@@bikerboy3k but dude think about it, your phone's cam would be fucked in a long term. You'd only want to use your phone as a webcam if it's not your primary one

[@_._shinonome_._]

@@sanketh8346 or they could use it as a stopgap until they have the money for a camera

[@MrSujano]

You did a really good job getting the GoPro to look good. The Razer seems to "pop" a little more which is probably what some streamers are looking for. Great vid.

[@chrisgross8009]

Personally the Razer Kiyo is a look i prefer over all the others, mostly because of the higher contrast IMO it makes the subject pop and the others it feels like a smooth blend over the whole image

[@berinloritsch]

Simple optics, the wider field of view, the more of a fisheye effect you'll get. The Razor is exhibiting those effects, and in fisheye so you will get more in the edges, but not so much more in the center. Same with straight optical lenses with standard cameras.

[@mc8542]

The Kiyo Pro has been reduced to 99$. That seems like a good deal, even with legato getting to 150 and logi getting down to 130.

[@Resistance230]

Now it's worthy

[@keipherbooth1333]

Yup I got mine off Amazon for 79.99

[@Solcres_Joa]

I had sooo many tabs open for different questions about this cam and streaming; thank you for taking care of almost 99% of them!

[@OnFullBlast]

I stream to a very small audience and they love the stream beats from you!!!! I also catch myself jamming to them when not streaming!

[@Rusty_Raine]

Low tech solution for measuring angle. Get 2 adjustable arms that can pivot. It could be old swing arms from a light or something like that. Have a card or something that sticks up at a distance probably 3-5 feet. Move the arms apart to where they are barely visible on each side. Then all you have to do is measure the angle with a protractor and you will know the exact angle. You could attach a protractor to one of the arms and then when you get them into position, all you have to do is look at the reading.

[@isaiahpastry]

I literally just bought the kiyo and it was hard to find but they released it and it made me feel like I was missing out

[@DarkSideOfDawn]

The comparison to the GoPro hero was a surprising one! I couldn't really see the difference before but by the end I could! Gives me some things to think about! Thanks for a great comparison video!

[@no.ca5270]

When you’ve already listened to the entire rock album multiple times before he announced in this video.

[@bebop777]

First video of yours I've seen. I like you. Your vibe is nice, you don't talk to fast and you know what you're talking about and explain it to the people who don't already know (like hdr) quite well

[@krisratliff3157]

But does it have RGB... feels like everything Razer comes out with now has rainbow RGB

[@Mart-E12]

I'm disappointed with the lack of RGB on the Viper mouse which is actually a good mouse not overpriced trash like the ones Razer made before

[@DetroitFury]

negative

[@theburntnacho]

@@Mart-E12 why not try the basilisk ultimate?

[@Mart-E12]

@@theburntnacho I upgraded to the Model O from my broken Lancehead and it's great, the difference in quality and weight is huge. I won't go with Razer again even if the RGB customisation is still the best, Synapse gets broken with every update and keeps asking me to login. I see no reason to even have to create an account just to be able to change the rgb, did tho. I still have the shitty Cynosa keyboard which I will exchange for some good mechinal keyboard

[@Nitrez]

Hi! I’m a new KZbinr and was hoping I could have a little support! I started about 2 years ago and have already grown a successful amount! I do lots of cool vids and love and notice every single subscriber, thank you

[@Stewiecookie]

Not only do I always find all your videos super helpful, just learning about stuff I don’t necessarily have an interest in is really fun. Something you’re doing right for sure.

[@pavelgutierrez6940]

Ngl i really dig the look of the streamcam, now if only I could afford it

[@zachrichards9426]

Actually switching from a gopro hero3+ black/cheap capture card to one of these tomorrow. To me, the detail and clarity of this was all I needed to see. Nothing else you showed was close imo and I'm confident I can get the color/tonal settings close enough with adjustable temperature lights. Plus, messing with the settings on a gopro as a webcam is pretty annoying and limited. For example on the hero3+ your WB settings are limited to auto, 3000k, 5500k, 65000k, or raw. And auto isn't great. Also tried the logitech C920, but it went back in the box within 24 hours. Would drop to around 15 FPS in low light. Ultimately, I think this strikes the good balance between webcam pricing/ease of use and mirrorless/dslr quality, but we'll see! Excited to try it out. Just hope they fix the autofocus hunting issue soon.

[@flat_battery7653]

I understand that going more into the configs to get a good setup and each cam is different in each setup. With this vid and the comparisons that you give Alpha. I would have to say, that personally, I would go with the Razer Kiyo. The main reason for myself is that it looks so much more crisper than the others. I know that there may be some other pros/cons. With the ability to change the settings to get a more natural look, not just in the Razer software but also OBS itself. I would push down that way. Others might have other opinions and I respect them. Especially you share them

[@ChuckCanada1]

Thanks. I like the idea of the gopro and a cam link. It just opens up more possibilities.

[@DKTD23]

This is down to $99 right now. Worth it at this price. 1.05 firmware provides more focus control in Synapse as well. It might be worth a revisit video Harris for the small improvements.

[@dwaynerivera]

Wow what a great review. You went into detail in just about everything. By far the best one I've watched over the razer kiyo pro

[@Na0uta]

Idk, I kinda like the razor cam more. It has good sharpness. The other two looked soft by comparison. Prob up to personal taste I think.

[@Acenis]

I don't think this sharpness is of much use unless you stream yourself in fullscreen. Even 480p looks good on miniature.

[@BeamedBy_N4hvii]

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[@NaudVanDalen]

@@Acenis But it's nice to sometimes make your Webcam full screen. And then it's nice for it to be high quality. 1080p should look good in 1080p.

[@greatwolftactical1793]

Honestly I like that slightly oversaturated and sharp look of the Kiyo pro more than anything. The Hero black was my second favorite

[@charlesowens1]

*(Me who loves saturation)* .......that kiyo looking niiiice

[@xsmockjrx]

mine just came in the mail. loving it.

[@manuelcandelaria8200]

Hey Harris! I’m going to start my very first Twitch stream this Wednesday and I just had the Kiyo pro delivered on Sunday. At first I was scared you were exposing how terrible the camera is but instead you made me feel like I made a good move. Your content is amazing. The knowledge you drop is very empowering!

[@ptitben56]

Just a quick note regarding the business professionals using webcams: sometimes a webcam is the only option outside of the very sub-par integrated one because the IT department doesn't give admin rights and doesn't want everyone to install OBS, regardless of one's tech knowledge. That means that at least the phone option is out (I'm not sure if a cam link is detected as a webcam by conferencing software?). It doesn't make any of the points raised in the video any less valid but I thought it was unfair to assume that a "business professional" would not be tech savvy and this would be the reason their reason to go for a webcam :)

[@saber-jocky3436]

One job I worked at required you to call IT just to make sensitivity adjustments to your mouse. Probably not a big deal to the average office worker, but when you're duties are split between administration and design, that can be a real pain in the ass. My solution was to harass them constantly until they finally gave admin privileges just to stop hearing my voice.

[@pipe4145]

Cam Link is detected as a webcam in conferencing software

[@TheRealMafoo]

Yea, but if that's your use case, then none of these web cams really are the right tool. These are designed for streamers, not corporate use. I have a very acceptable, far more portable, and less expensive webcam I use for my meetings.

[@kurtpleavin]

All of the $20 HDMI to USB dongles I've used from amazon are all recognised as a standard webcam in my experience.

[@ptitben56]

@@kurtpleavin Nice, that's good to know! Thanks for the hint!

[@Segundo_Grande]

Just unboxed the product - got it on sale for 95 € - good value for money. Thnx for the review.

[@realchasecurtis]

Damn, this webcam is impressive.

[@100MilWill]

Man I recently found your channel, I must say this was the BEST webcam review Ive ever seen, they way you show all the differences between other webcams, and the way different settings look, I really liked it. Thinking about maybe streaming, Have a decent setup already would just really need a webcam to get started, having a basic version of everything else already and would invest to upgrade other things if I really got into it. Would love to see you do more review videos like this.

[@cobalttornado9803]

I never thought I would add copyright free music to my playlist. This is fire

[@Rocksolid711]

I happy for you man, I remember when you dropped stream beats and look where it is at now. Keep up the amazing work.

[@Gregg2G]

tfw the logitech streamcam gets more expensive as the video goes on

[@CyberRayne]

The Razer Kiyo pro is on sale for $100 right now. Looking at it less for streaming more for work conferences

[@Zarglog]

I wish I would've saved money for a DSLR or a GoPro. Bought the Logitech Brio 4K and it's absolute garbage.

[@crookedchicken]

So glad I came across your video. I just started my channel a few months ago and have just been using an old cell phone as my camera and trying so hard to decide what I want to upgrade to. I've thought the Razer was always pretty nice and now the Averman is also in the running. Your video definitely broke it down for me and now I just need to decide between the 2. Thanks for your info and really diving into the details.

[@arcanum3882]

The intro of this video is funny considering the fact that almost every gaming webcam on the internet is constantly sold out.

[@valorantremixes9025]

I think Harris was trying to give Sam a heart attack with all the editing that this video required 😂😂😂

[@SleepyRaindropsYT]

Lmao thats exactly what I was thinking poor Sam guess thats why He got his own editor too tho 🤣🤣🤣

[@rumple503]

GoPro is looking better and I will choose that option if there's enough tutorials online how to set it up, otherwise, I will go for the Razer Kiyo.

[@M3galodon]

Probably the most abundant high quality tutorials on youtube are on lighting and camera settings so you should be covered.

[@LowkeyLoki_1]

Most cheap gopros have overheating issues. I'd suggest you rock the Kiyo instead.

[@M3galodon]

@@savagality I hope this analogy makes sense. So OP is looking at buying a second hand BMW M3 (which, for the sake of argument, is actually cheaper) as long as she can get professional training to safely enjoy the M3, otherwise, she will go for a low power Mustang. What you're suggesting is that you went to the dealership for a low power Mustang and ended up with a Camry so she should consider the Camry because it's more than enough for your needs. Also, she doesn't need to worry about rear wheel drive. Does that sum it up?

[@LowkeyLoki_1]

@@savagality Ive had more issues with logitech's software than synapse but that might be a personal experience

[@TheCaffeinator]

of the three webcams to me the Logitech looks the best, but i also like slightly desaturated video like log with contrast added, but the gopro is probably the best value, best image. You can probably lock exposure with most of the webcams.. but probably not as easily with the iPhone. Thats definitely another big plus with the gopro. No drifting focus/exposure when you standup to do 20 jumping jacks for a donation or whatever. Great video harris

[@PleebsOG]

I think the Razer actually looks the best. Too bad it didn’t have HDR at 60fps.

[@ChocoStream]

Do you really need 60fps for your webcam tho ? this is what kills your set up xDD 60FPs for a cam is literally overkill and people don't even care about that sooo yeah

[@PleebsOG]

@@ChocoStream I’ll answer your question with a question. Forget 60 FPS for a webcam, do you even need a webcam in the first place? No, we could just use our phone. It all depends what you want to do with the webcam.

[@YukyDoodle]

@@PleebsOG uses ur phone CPU which could have long term affects on batteries, you won’t have your phone available during calls & they’re a pain to connect to your PC sometimes.

[@PleebsOG]

@@YukyDoodle absolutely which is why I have a Razer Kiyo.

[@Frosty_V0]

@@ChocoStream No, I think you need 60FPS if you record in 1080p 60FPS. This way, the video is synced and there are no choppy errors because they both have the same resolution and framerate output

[@Rusty_Raine]

I would have to say that it is between the GoPro and the phone. I like the levels on you with the GoPro and I like the background levels more with the phone. I can always jump on YT and watch a few videos on how to setup the GoPro. I don't even have to fully understand what I am doing to get good image quality.

[@DreamStream13]

Well seeing as avermedia just dropped the price of the 513 to 199 I'd say 1000% it's the winner here

[@Frosty_V0]

It doesn't look as sharp or contain the fine details IMO

[@LifeOfWiND]

I like the razer kiyo pro. Thank you for this video as game stop has it for 99$ right now in November which is a steal!

[@pixelpunchyt]

Me who doesn't use my face in videos: hmmm yes interesting

[@milannekuhh]

Productionquality.exe has stopped working

[@threepe0]

If you’re not using it, rent it out

[@milannekuhh]

@@threepe0 are u broke?

[@JamJamToast69]

To my eye, when comparing all three at the end, the Kiyo looked by far the best. Much clearer, much more smooth.

[@REMY.C.]

I'm waiting for a webcam that "Makes me more attractive and young".

[@xiuxiu1108]

It's called your "smart phone" and they already have software for that

[@REMY.C.]

@@xiuxiu1108 they're not smart enough to make me pretty and young. I'm very ugly.

[@linkvagar2336]

@@REMY.C. This is why Vtubing exists

[@heron5045]

I find the GoPro looks awsome! I would have loved if you would have shown off your DSLR setup as well. I have a DSLR (Nikon D5600), which I never have used for streaming so far, I will look for a tutorial as well

[@usr1996]

This guy: expensive webcams bad Also this guy when he gets sponsored by elgato: buy elgato's new expensive webcam!

[@DJTruntz]

EXACTLY! I went to this, I just made a long comment thread on his elgato video. I feel bad for the other high end webcams, the tone/conclusion/suggestions he's makiing is inconsistent for webcam reviews. ;(

[@entropicity]

what a hypocrite

[@usr1996]

@@DJTruntz this guy seems to be VERY biased and unrealistic when it comes to some things. very dishonest too.

[@nerizonerful]

cant help but to notice that majesty at back

[@fawkesmorque]

The autofocus on the Kiyo Pro seems quiet annoying.

[@TheRealMafoo]

You can turn it off

[@fawkesmorque]

@@TheRealMafoo Instead of paying for something to then turn it off I would prefer a properly adjusted autofocus for my money.^^

[@TriWaZe]

@@fawkesmorque Then you are gonna need a Canon or Sony mirrorless camera sadly.

[@fawkesmorque]

​@@TriWaZe I own a Sony mirrorless camera for streaming. But that does not help Kiyo Pro buyers with their shitty AF.

[@jackbolder5734]

Thx for the point about the settings not being saved on the cam! Very good

[@gopiz558]

They're just making blind money...For just a webcam I won't invest that much money... I can use my old mobile as webcam which is better quality than any webcams....

[@FSXgta]

So true, and even wirelessly

[@piratetech3722]

I would add you could use the GoPro with a cheap HDMI USB capture card for even more of a saving! Great video

[@elishapark2767]

The video: *says one view* Me: ooh yay I’m early The comment section: nope 😐

[@happyllamaplays6297]

Almost 4 minutes to open the box. Quite a skill to take that long to show something and still have me watching :)

[@tmdosu]

"You can use your phone as a webcam by downloading an app for less than 10 bucks". This is the most apple sentence I've hear in a long time.

[@OZEEtube]

But the same goes for Android phones? The App is for iOS and Android.

[@FSXgta]

There's a free app that's much better. Irinum webcam. You can even use it over WiFi and OBS picks it up. However this is Android only (I think)

[@OZEEtube]

@@FSXgta EpochCam also works for WiFi, so I don't see what's better about Irinum Webcam.

[@FSXgta]

@@OZEEtube im just saying trying to help. I have just tried the one I mentioned, it worked so I had no need to find anything else

[@OZEEtube]

@@FSXgta It's all good man, it's just that you put it in a way as if you tested both and mentioned the WiFi as a benefit 😅

[@hunterfrederick2731]

This is amazing. THe kiyo looks the best out of almost every product shown... as someone who uses a camera for work all those gopro camlink blah de blah whatever. I gotta move my stuff all the time so I can keep working with it! This camera looks great!

[@MartinNewton1981]

I'd pick the RAZER in a heartbeat.

[@Reedith]

I only wish you would have touched on the whole audio delay when using the GoPro thing. It's not always easy to fix if you're just jumping into a zoom call you first have to route through obs and figure out the audio delay

[@RizzzKhalifa]

This broke within a week of me getting it

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

OUCH

[@LeadSails]

get a warranty replacement dude, you probably just ended up with a defective unit since it’s a new product, you’ve got a year of warranty so nothing to be worried about.

[@christopherhrobak]

i just got a Sony a5100 camera to use for streaming rather than a webcam and im not regretting it quality seems pretty good

[@josephjewett2686]

PLEASE STOP PLUGGING THE GOPRO HERO 4/3, THEY CRASH SO EASILY WHEN YOU'RE USING THEM WITH THE HDMI OUT!!!

[@dangerfox1776]

so you have one that crashes so they must all crash? feelsbadman

[@TheDroneDad]

I've been using my phones for working from home, which has been a Note 10+, and now a Z Fold 3. My boss has a stigma about using phones. Thinks it means less professional. Picked up the Kiyo at the discounted $99. Seems okay but my phone does just as well. So I'll be rubbing that in my boss's face at every opportunity. Great vid!

[@glidgebidge1029]

tx mate, nice vid.. the gopro was the best choice in my opinion regarding to the output, looks simply closest to an actual tv quality

[@Syinite]

The Avermedia cam goes for $200 now on Amazon, and less used

[@misterwednesday]

Not gonna lie, I liked the look of the Razer out of all the webcams. I liked the sharper, more saturated look compared to the others. But you sold me on that GoPro setup there at the end. It looked super clean and to your point it's not scrapping the entire setup when you upgrade.

[@TheRealMafoo]

GoPro for sure. Also you said there was one reason to buy the webcam in the intro, but I didn't see you pointing that out during the rest of the review.

[@RathJ13]

Sony a6000 for me. although wildly out of budget for this specific purpose alone, a lot of people already have a mirrorless camera laying around for filming vlogs, taking photos, etc. Simply use that with a nice lense and boom. top tier quality webcam.

[@JoeHeisler]

Thanks for the vid, nice Majetsy back there. I always liked the white color on the first models.

[@christopher_2412]

the GoPro looks SO CLEAN !!

[@mickjayplays]

I'm using a GoPro Hero 6 Black with the $35 camlink competitor and it works like a charm!

[@CelebralBore]

Btw, you can actually generate a profile and then save it to the camera by profiles, but you need to search for it.

[@biscuitman5388]

I like the older Kiyo with the ring light. Have it. Gets the stuff that I need done.

[@AlohaCraw]

I have a ton of cameras: - an older DSLR (a Pentax K5 from 2010). My DSLR doesn’t have a clean HDMI out (unfortunately). - a Sony camcorder (also from 2010), which has the clean HDMI out, but doesn’t have a wide angle. - a GoPro Hero 8, which works great over an RTMP server (with about a 5 second delay), and is very hit or miss as a webcam over USB. I can’t use both the camcorder and GoPro over camlinks at the same time (I build LEGO on stream and use the camcorder as a top down camera). - a avermedia PW513, works great. Love it. One complaint, I can’t run this camera through a USB switcher so I can use it on a work PC and a personal PC. - a avermedia PW313, works great. Image quality isn’t top notch, but it was cheaper and works with my USB switcher. So to review, I now have a three camera setup at my desk, I can also use a GoPro as an IRL camera around the house / town over the RTMP server all because I don’t want to buy a second DSLR lol

[@AteAllThePies]

Yes the plug and play convenience of a webcam is important when you also use it for work - i.e. don't have admin rights to install additional software on a work laptop so can't use the software required to use an old phone/go-pro as a webcam. (which sucks, but man's gotta make a living too!).

[@ReyesRP]

Kiyo Pro was the only one where I could see detail in your whiskers. The others were just a blur there. I was using my phone for video which worked well but like you said is a hassle to set up and sometimes I needed my phone at the same time, so I switched to a cheap 4k webcam which sucks at 4k but is good at 1080p which is all that I really needed. The FoV is a little less than what I wanted but it was only $60 or so and has good enough clarity that I can see detail in my whiskers and colors are good, though not as good as the Kiyo in HDR. I'm not a streamer just using it for Zoom calls with work and family. I have an older DSLR (Canon SL-1) which works with the Canon webcam driver but no clean HDMI so can't do the Elgato. Just started playing around with the Canon last weekend but pretty nice. Just a hassle setting up the tripod though so will probably only use the DSLR for more important calls and the webcam for day to day.

[@SpliffQuest]

My Razer Kiyo Pro is soon to arrive, but that GoPro Hero 4 looks amazing, and even more so considering it's almost 10 years old.

[@bradbarber]

Another thing worth mention is that there is usually some audio/video offset you may need to correct with the iPhone or GoPro setup, which can be a pain in the butt

[@CheerioMate]

I like how to Kiyo pro looked sharper than even the GoPro. like you could see individual beard hairs

[@noodohs]

The Kiyo Pro DOES save to the camera, but not if you are using Synapse. I don't have Synapse installed at all and that does mean I can't use HDR or the FOV settings, but all the settings I change (using OBS) persist when I restart or unplug the camera with the possible exception of the gain setting (which never saved on the Kiyo, either). The weirdest thing about the Kiyo Pro to me is that it seems a bit softer and has a bit more chromatic aberration than the original Kiyo, but the upshot is significantly improved lighting and frame rate.

[@cfrazer]

I originally purchased a Razer Kiyo thinking it would have been a good cam. When I found that I couldn't save my settings, light ring was a real disappointment washing out the image and that Razer did not release any form of update to help resolve these problems. Instead it looks like they just release the Kiyo Pro and what, forget about the Kiyo users. I took your advice and use a gopro hero 6 black that I already had. I agree with you. It may not be the best but it is better than a webcam. And because of the dynamic range on the gopro I find lighting is key as the image might look a bit dark.

[@sausageskin]

The main advantage of a webcam vs., say, a phone or a GoPro is that a webcam is plug-and-play. You just plug it into any computer, and it works because it's a single-purpose device. Other video devices are not as seamless to use as your webcam; you need to power them on/off, use software. For example, I tried to use the DJI Osmo Pocket 3 as a webcam. Sure, the image quality is amazing (since it has a one-inch sensor), but I could not make it save the zoom setting. So every time I turn on my computer, I need to zoom in (since it's a very wide angle by default). Sure, if you want to maximize your video quality, you would go as far as using a DSLR camera. But for most people, the image quality of modern webcams is good enough, so the extra hassle is not worth it, in my opinion.

[@FrozenFingers]

While it may be intentional that the background is out of focus with the GoPro, I personally prefer the background sharpness of the webcams, especially the Logitech but you look best with the Gopro.