WI-FI 6, Why it's the BIGGEST update to Wi-Fi EVER! - 802.11ax

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@taylor71432
@taylor71432 4 жыл бұрын
29 years old and I've never seen anyone get the point across so easily, and at the same time make it so interesting. Loving the vids so far man keep it up!
@SammyOmari254
@SammyOmari254 2 жыл бұрын
Am a computer science student I graduated from university and one thing I can confirm is that what I've learnt all this years from Google and KZbin is more valuable than what my lecturers taught me back at school 🙌🙌
@ehabhassanin
@ehabhassanin Жыл бұрын
Hello chuck I want to ask you what do you think about window 10 or 11 in s mode?? Is really worth it?? Is it a lot more secure than the normal mode
@Peolpe
@Peolpe Жыл бұрын
School is a scam 😂
@choppergirl
@choppergirl Жыл бұрын
You'll learn 10,000x more from real world experience than you will from KZbin or a school or Google.
@BenjaminCronce
@BenjaminCronce 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the delivery, but missed some other big things 1) Wifi 6 brings beam-forming to 2.4ghz 2) Wifi 6 devices are allowed to "talk over" another device as long as the other device has weak signal strength. This reduces competition for spectrum in high density areas. 3) Wifi 6's new signalling reduces the latency quite a bit. Something like 1ms instead of 10ms. It doesn't sound like much, but when you have packet-loss and the wifi frame has to be resent, it can be the difference between 5ms and 50ms. 4) Wifi 6 can do full duplex if the devices support. The protocol supports it because of OFDMA
@spaceboundmonk
@spaceboundmonk 5 жыл бұрын
Nice
@NetworkChuck
@NetworkChuck 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thanks Benjamin!
@AluminumHaste
@AluminumHaste 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't know about full duplex, that's going to be a game changer for a lot of home devices. Now I'm actually excited for this!
@BenjaminCronce
@BenjaminCronce 5 жыл бұрын
@@AluminumHaste Because of the OFDMA sub-channels, there's no functional difference between something sending and receiving on different sub-channels or more than one device sending on different sub-channels. Of course it is up to the devices to take advantage of this.
@holyCaptnjack
@holyCaptnjack 5 жыл бұрын
@@shawnbechard3680 I'm not gonna say what you're saying is wrong or incorrect, as I'm sure its based off of experience with a certain standard of internet that many likewise have. But (and I left a question about this for @NetworkChuck) for people who don't have a certain level of internet speed, this change in delivery protocol could make certain peoples lesser (and only real viable option) internet speeds more effective. Which if it does, then I could see where you're coming from with your perspective; but if it does it would def. help people out like me who only have a max speed of 8mbps. (some have even less)
@zoey1392
@zoey1392 4 жыл бұрын
He is such a good teacher. I just amazed how his presentation drew my attention till the end of the video
@newtonraymond77
@newtonraymond77 4 жыл бұрын
Where the hell did you all find this guy? He's great a teacher at heart, I subbed
@christinewieseler6401
@christinewieseler6401 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, we love Chuck!!! Btw he used to work for CBT Nuggets so that is where some of us found him. The first time I saw him I was researching Cisco certs and he had a video on that. Then later I watched him on CBT. Always enjoy his videos!
@adriatical9016
@adriatical9016 4 жыл бұрын
I think I got a random KZbin recommendation, and I saw a nice video thumbnail so I clicked it and discovered greatness.
@jaenulton9953
@jaenulton9953 4 жыл бұрын
Right on, the man can teach! Information is solid and well researched, his energy is great and most importantly he can break it down into digestible forms with analogies that make sense to anyone willing to listen. I subbed too. All teachers need to watch this guy just to learn how they could be doing their job better.
@ChelGaming
@ChelGaming 4 жыл бұрын
i found him pretty early and i can tell his video quality is even getting better over time
@peterpaul3133
@peterpaul3133 4 жыл бұрын
he's good i subbed too
@ShawnLangford
@ShawnLangford 4 жыл бұрын
NetworkChuck: Just as long as they don’t make the next standard Wi-Fi 6S Wi-Fi Alliance: Hold my antenna... Introducing Wi-Fi 6E
@seyses
@seyses 3 жыл бұрын
:))))))
@gunatavkapoor8395
@gunatavkapoor8395 5 жыл бұрын
I just started preparing for CCNA and your channel is really keeping me motivated to get into the network-world. 👌 Thanks for all the effort you are putting in this.
@balla2172
@balla2172 5 жыл бұрын
Also keep in mind cisco may within the next 5 years could very well be irrelevant. I say this with a notation though it is always very good to know how the back end of things work but going forward Cisco is completely changing the way that they do routing switching and that working from the ground up
@ccnp2009
@ccnp2009 5 жыл бұрын
GUNATAV KAPOOR. I would study Cyber Security or Data Center track from Cisco. R/S is great however the network pioneers layed the Backbone done. Cyber Security and Data Center is the future. I recommend TCP/IP Illustrator volume two. To prepare for your CCIE studies.
@DrZiggyzoo1
@DrZiggyzoo1 5 жыл бұрын
@@balla2172 That doesn't make them irrelevant. It just means you'll have to keep up on the new technology and how things are done. This goes for anything in the IT world, and the reason why you have to recertify every 3 years. New implementation also does not mean all enterprise companies are going to switch over immediately. The old stuff will be around longer than one thinks.
@balla2172
@balla2172 5 жыл бұрын
@@DrZiggyzoo1 all of our clients are on a 5 year cycle and going forward our standard going forward is 9000 series switches
@sullimd
@sullimd 5 жыл бұрын
Learn routing, switching, firewalls and WiFi - NOT just how Cisco does it. You need to realize Cisco does things different - for example, every other switch vendor besides Cisco uses tagged and untagged VLAN language, not access and trunk. Literally, Ruckus, HP, Dell, Extreme, even Cisco SG series, etc ALL use the same VLAN language, Cisco is the only one that does things different. So my point it, learn network concepts and fundamentals, not just learning “Cisco”. Probably only 4 out of 10 customer I do work for in a week use Cisco. Edit: I also have my CCNP in R&S, so I’m not bashing Cisco, Im just saying I see supposed “network” guys all the time who can’t work on anything but Cisco.
@diogoalmeidavisuals
@diogoalmeidavisuals 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. QUICK TIP; if you want to get rid of the color cast you're getting when keying out the green from the drawings. Try drawing on a black background and using the "screen" blend mode option instead of chroma keying.
@tofu_golem
@tofu_golem 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for admitting that this video is sponsored by Cisco. I must confess that I ran out and bought a 802.11ax router as soon as one became available, and while I'm excited about this technology, its biggest impact will not be in the home, but (as you mention) public WiFi when you have a large number of devices trying to connect.
@PenneyThoughts
@PenneyThoughts 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure about that Paul. I do SOHO networking support for Comcast and I regularly deal with 20 - 40 devices connected to a single AP. And they wonder why their wifi is so slow, lol. Wifi 6 is gonna put me out of a jerb!
@CanonFirefly
@CanonFirefly 5 жыл бұрын
Even a moderately sized family can easily stretch the limits of even the highest end AC routers. If you have 3 or 4 teenagers who regularly bring friends around then your network can get pretty congested.
@technimechanical
@technimechanical 5 жыл бұрын
Yes... BUT you have to consider that companies still want to make money and upgrading all of those routers and networks to wifi 6 costs money that they could really not give a flying fuck about giving customers free wifi... so yeah... it's not that it will make a difference in public wifi it's that it may make a difference if they even upgrade which for malls or airports... is unlikely. Businesses are more likely to upgrade yeah but I dont see it happening for quite some time now like maybe itll happen when wifi7 is a thing
@PongoXBongo
@PongoXBongo 5 жыл бұрын
@@technimechanical Plenty of companies care about giving customers good wifi. If the difference between Coffee Shop A and Coffee Shop B it that Coffee Shop A has much faster wifi, well guess which one customers are going to flock to. Same for hotels and the like, especially for business customers. Public image and customer ratings make a huge difference is corporate spending patterns.
@NdxtremePro
@NdxtremePro 4 жыл бұрын
Frankly, my home has 20+ devices connected to wifi now, and I am using rdp over wifi to watch this. This will be very useful in my usecase, as soon as our devices are upgraded. I assume wifi 6 needs new devices to utilize all these benefits.
@RobertLeBlancPhoto
@RobertLeBlancPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Public WiFi isn't bad because of current WiFi capabilities. ac is great. It's because providers of public WiFi deliberately throttle throughput bandwidth and speeds because they're cheap.
@swiftrhythm
@swiftrhythm 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed... I've been to many conferences where the AP can handle hundreds of clients, but it has a T1 connecting it to the internet... that is 1.5Mbps if it's a full T1. Try sharing that with hundreds of clients over WI-FI 6. WI-FI getting better is great but we need faster connections to feed it.
@Drew-C-
@Drew-C- 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't this shocking that conference halls are so cheap? I just finished a restaurant setup with a 400x100 fiber connection and multiple Ruckus R710 AC Wave2 APs. No throttle. Guests will be FLYING.
@Handleme23
@Handleme23 5 жыл бұрын
I was literslLy going to say this but I didn’t think I would have a voice. Thanks.
@RuuDBoY868
@RuuDBoY868 5 жыл бұрын
My previous job we hosted wifi for 90+ sites ranging from 1 user to 100s, i can attest to this. Public wifi backhauled to the data center which fed that traffic oit of 1 cable modem, eventually upgraded to 2 with loadsharing to a backup DC, but still capped each device at 4Mbps to jabe some control over the thousands of devices connecting at once across the MAN.
@Tima7901
@Tima7901 5 жыл бұрын
Rob, I was just about to say this same thing. So if you thought it, I thought it, and I'm sure may others here did also. Why is NetworkChuck forgetting to speak about it in this video?
@TheRealThaenatos
@TheRealThaenatos 5 жыл бұрын
the hub -> switch reference took me back to the days I upgraded my hubs....right in the feels man.
@RandomTorok
@RandomTorok 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering how many would know the difference between a hub and a switch.
@TheRealThaenatos
@TheRealThaenatos 5 жыл бұрын
@@RandomTorok that broadcast though lol...
@tsut99
@tsut99 5 жыл бұрын
This got me psyched up too!!
@freezerlunik
@freezerlunik 5 жыл бұрын
The hub/switch analogy is what turned me off wifi way back when. At the end of the day there are lower and higher layers of technology where a controlling factor can be addressed. One could muck about with wireless modulation and multiplexing, or one could run a more reliable and isolated channel. I'll pick a dedicated interface when available, any day.
@j.w.grayson6937
@j.w.grayson6937 Жыл бұрын
This video is 4 years old, but I JUST upgraded my AT&T gateway router from 802.11AC to AX, hoping to help with the congestion in my neighborhood. Before watching this video I only knew that WI-FI 6 is faster, but had no idea of the impressive features. Thanks for posting this!
@kallikantzaros
@kallikantzaros 5 жыл бұрын
Hanging out with CBT Nuggets members improved your explanational tutorials I can notice. Well spent time Chuck. :)
@rohitrajkoul5627
@rohitrajkoul5627 4 жыл бұрын
Tried to learn from many sources about Wi-Fi 6. But none were close to what I learnt from this video. Thumbs up to your delivery and the way you presented all the features.
@robpetri5996
@robpetri5996 5 жыл бұрын
Makes you angry does it? Wait till you find out that each core on your computer only runs one program at a time and it just switches between them giving each a little compute at a time.
@darkforceguitar
@darkforceguitar 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah multi tasking is not really real multi tasking lol I learned about this in my CS class and was blown away. I bought into this for so long thinking it was really making multiple tasks on the process, instead of switching between one program at a time to give it resources.
@joshuasterling2144
@joshuasterling2144 5 жыл бұрын
@Jordan Rodrigues Imagine air hockey except there are multiple pucks....lol
@PerErik87
@PerErik87 5 жыл бұрын
@Jordan Rodrigues Like programs don't need to use the time slice either? I mean like messenger would not have to acces the cpu more than once every second when idle. Adobe does not need to acces the cpu 4000 every second when the program isn't even running and so on.
@mattgeo5039
@mattgeo5039 5 жыл бұрын
they are all retards. probably will have to wait for china and russia to release a competitive architecture out of spite for these limitations!! In the end it is ALL warfare. we are a war mongering species in everything we do.
@SirMo
@SirMo 5 жыл бұрын
Actually this is not exactly true. A CPU core can run multiple instructions (from different programs) at once via SMT.
@VickieEB
@VickieEB 3 жыл бұрын
You did not over-flog the subject at all, every point was still important all 24min. Thanks NetworkChuck
@treehugginmegatron
@treehugginmegatron 5 жыл бұрын
5:40 the Bob Ross of networking. Haha that's awesome
@caseykawamura1675
@caseykawamura1675 3 жыл бұрын
The green screen in photoshop move was genius, I am glad you showed the view to let me see that :)
@seelensand
@seelensand 5 жыл бұрын
Me: * just upgraded home wifi * Wi-Fi Alliance: Wifi 6 is out now
@Enonymouse_
@Enonymouse_ 4 жыл бұрын
haha i'm there now but 6 is just now gaining support for home devices while in the enterprise space it's still rare or non-existent.
@embeewhy
@embeewhy 4 жыл бұрын
I'm too
@usercs_2682
@usercs_2682 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. Bought a AC5300 and then few months later AX6000 and AX11000 coming out.......
@freakboy40
@freakboy40 4 жыл бұрын
I hear you brother. I decided to wait because I worked for Tigerdirect and heard the standard was being upgraded.
@cfomusic73
@cfomusic73 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I'm not even done watching this video yet and I had to pause it so I can comment on how great you are at explaining this! Dude...I shouldn't even disrespect you by saying dude but I would pay to sit through a classroom as you teach us this new technology. Very well explained and easy to understand. Keep the videos coming! Thank you.
@FireBean8504
@FireBean8504 5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that I didn't hear anything about mu-mimo
@stevesmith8320
@stevesmith8320 5 жыл бұрын
I understand the concept between the two and yet they are similar, but based on the actual technology they are two different fish. still don't see much instant improvement based on older devices. The mu-mimo focuses on the downstream and OFDMA does both up and down. I did initially think the same as you Chistopher and I also get a sense of "YourMomDotCom19" propaganda.
@RealKeveri
@RealKeveri 4 жыл бұрын
Wifi 6 routers use something called OFDMA (Orthogonal frequency-division multiple access) to send to more than one device simultaneously. So MU-MIMO isn't needed.
@huebui8470
@huebui8470 3 жыл бұрын
Jeez, man! Gotta say, you're the best teacher I've ever encounter. Absolutely best tech video I've ever seen. Thanks a lot, dude.
@Doctorstew
@Doctorstew 5 жыл бұрын
Bro Alexa is like your buddy here. “Smart.” “Thanks.” I’ve never seen Alexa do that 😂😂
@DejvmanXsindicate
@DejvmanXsindicate 5 жыл бұрын
You can not see Alexa....
@Doctorstew
@Doctorstew 5 жыл бұрын
Dejv I’ve never heard Alexa do it.
@PongoXBongo
@PongoXBongo 5 жыл бұрын
It's an optional setting called "Follow-up Mode" which allows Alexa to continue listening for a few seconds after the initial command/request for additional commands/requests. Pretty handy. Besides, it's only polite to thank her once in a while (or in this case compliment her). ;)
@Tom_Azin
@Tom_Azin 4 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best explanation how WiFi6 works and what are it's advantages compared to previous WiFi versions. Thanks a lot, you convinced me to purchase a new WiFi6 router.
@DavidA20200
@DavidA20200 4 жыл бұрын
This may be the best tech video I’ve watched ever
@Tetsaga
@Tetsaga 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Chuck, I just want to say that I appreciate you and your videos. You really make all of the IT stuff approachable and make it all of it seem doable/learnable.
@muhamadss
@muhamadss 5 жыл бұрын
I have watched 10 videos about wifi 6 and didn’t understand it you explained it amazingly great job(I finless understand it )👍🏻❤️
@FortiTip
@FortiTip 5 жыл бұрын
cool tips , wifi can be a bit confusing , but then again follow this tips: avoid placing it near metallic surfaces, dont place it too high or low, dont place near wet places ( bathroom ) , avoid obstacles , be aware of nearby noise ( microwave, wireless phones ...) , make sure your antennas are 90 degrees perpendicular to the ground....bottom line, it is more than pure standard
@jefronty
@jefronty 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying ax/6 won't be better, but isn't MU-MIMO already allowing simultaneous communication of multiple devices?
@DENicholsAutoBravado
@DENicholsAutoBravado 5 жыл бұрын
As I understand it does, but this looks like it'd improve the multiple antenna devices even further because even they could only talk, per antenna set, 1 in and 1 out, per 1 device at any given moment - as I understand it.
@Enonymouse_
@Enonymouse_ 4 жыл бұрын
There's vanilla MIMO and then MU-MIMO. MU-MIMO has multiple pairs of input/output's and permits them to all function simultaneously.
@needsomehike
@needsomehike 4 жыл бұрын
MU-MIMO 802.11ac supports multiple users downlink(!).
@Enonymouse_
@Enonymouse_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@needsomehike Gen 1 perhaps, Gen 2 support allows more.
@needsomehike
@needsomehike 4 жыл бұрын
@@Enonymouse_ Hi, E. what do you mean it allows more? WITH Gen 2 (are we talking about wave 2 ?) the AP can receive from multiple users ? If so can you please include a white paper or link ? I am preparing for my CWNA and would like to be up to date before exam day.
@ernestwinslow7316
@ernestwinslow7316 3 жыл бұрын
Talk about making boring and abstract tech stuff so simple and interesting, this is so much fun to watch. Good job NetworkChuck.
@bigguy9127
@bigguy9127 5 жыл бұрын
I love how enthusiastic you are about this. I know Jeremy from CBT Nuggets is the same way. If everyone were as helpful as you two... the IT world would be a happier place.
@tylersanders6854
@tylersanders6854 5 жыл бұрын
CHUCK, I've been contracting for a hospital for a year now installing ethernet cabling. Every other patient room is red and blue networked and every 3rd room gets an opposite colored WAP. I've always wondered why they insist on this but now, thanks to your video, I understand that they are simply preparing for WiFi 6 and the new technology concepts. I freakin love computer networking. Thanks for all your videos. Fan for life lol.
@joseluislopes3956
@joseluislopes3956 5 жыл бұрын
Aren't you forgetting MU-MIMO is available in wifi 5 as well?
@adhame95
@adhame95 5 жыл бұрын
José Luís Lopes he didn’t talk about mu-mimo
@LaughingOrange
@LaughingOrange 5 жыл бұрын
@@adhame95 If I understand it correctly OFDMA is basically the same as MU-MIMO.
@adhame95
@adhame95 5 жыл бұрын
Laughing Orange no its a different thing Ofdma works on a a frequency level While mu-mimo on a spatial level For example With ofdma the ap dedicate 1.5mhz of the 80mhz channel to a device that requires a little bandwith and 40mhz to another device streaming video. Mu-mimo dedicate one or more)spatial stream(an antenna) to each device For example if you have a 4x4 mimo ap and 4 1x1 siso devices the ap will Use 4 times 1 stream at the same time to talk to your devices, if you have 2 2x2mimo device the ap will use 2 times 2streams at the same time. Without mu-mimo even with a 4x4 ap and 4 1x1 siso devices it will use all 4 streams one by one to talk with the devices. Both technologies share the same goal but in a different ways. Im not a network pro so i could’ve said something wrong, please correct me if you have more info.
@KimLetkeman
@KimLetkeman 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was wondering why mu-mimo never came up... I'd have preferred to discussion of the impact of 1x1 vs 2x2 vs 3x3 device mix... That would have been more useful I think.
@davidjewel1453
@davidjewel1453 5 жыл бұрын
@@LaughingOrange OFDMA isn't even close to the same thing as MU-MIMO..
@rishabhtomar2174
@rishabhtomar2174 4 жыл бұрын
The way this guy explain is just amazing. Totally love his videos. Keep going chuck.
@Madawg65
@Madawg65 5 жыл бұрын
This could have been a 2 min video
@jcltnc459
@jcltnc459 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciated the background explanation.
@ChrisPye999
@ChrisPye999 3 жыл бұрын
I've just bought a Wifi 6 Mesh system but until I watched this video I had no real idea what it would do other than improve signal strength. I am so glad I watched this video because you've made it so easy to understand just how much of a massive improvement this will be for my home network. I have at least 3 mobile phones 2 Kindles, an Ipad Pro, 2 4k TV's, Smart lights, Ring doorbell with 2 additional chimes, a laptop PC and a desktop PC all competing for data. Can't wait for it to arrive tomorrow.
@chrisbillingham9164
@chrisbillingham9164 5 жыл бұрын
A couple of questions, 1. What about MU-MIMO, wasn't that supposed to allow for multi-device communication from the router? 2. Don't current AC routers allow for use of both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz? Or is that true and it can only choose between the 2.4Ghz N and 5Ghz AC at any given time?
@NoxmilesDe
@NoxmilesDe 5 жыл бұрын
MIMO needs multiple antennas. This is an example with only 1 antenna. So, He is totally correct but with 2, 3, ... Antennas you can have multiple streams even now. But still a Big Highway at each antenna
@EsotericArctos
@EsotericArctos 5 жыл бұрын
MIMO has been around since 802.11n came in, but not all manufacturers implement it. I think the issue with WiFi currently (upto 802.11ac) is the fact there are too many optional extras so to speak. You can be 802.11n or 802.11ac compliant, but not implement all the features.
@bijubalan7819
@bijubalan7819 5 жыл бұрын
1)Another thing is mu mimo in ac was only downlink meaning, ap to client not client to ap. As far as multi user communication, ax supports 2 technology - mu-mimo and mu-ofdma. And both of them supports both uplink and downlink communications. Each of this multi user technology has its own advantage and disadvantage. 2) 11 ac was defined to operate only in the 5 gig spectrum as per original 11ac standard. Any implementations of ac you see operating at 2.4 is actually not ac. It is just the vendor is lying you.
@needsomehike
@needsomehike 4 жыл бұрын
I got confused about this now. So the way i see it high end AP can support multiple SSID and with the 802.11AC wave2 it can transmit to multiple stations but receiving only possible from 1 at a time. So, what about multiple SSID each on different channels? Can multiple stations transmit at the same time to the AP provided that they are on different SSID-s hence on different channels?
@stevepowsinger733
@stevepowsinger733 4 жыл бұрын
My netgear c7000 has Simultaneous 5 and 2.4. For.some reason a new 2.4 Wyze device would not connect but it may have been a firewall issue.
@georgegach723
@georgegach723 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure how you popped up in my boring feed but MAN your content is AX
@KeinZantezuken
@KeinZantezuken 3 жыл бұрын
"One at a time, before AX" - that's not true, MU-MIMO exists in AC.
@randomdaysy
@randomdaysy 3 жыл бұрын
was just coming down to comment that
@greengamerguy623
@greengamerguy623 3 жыл бұрын
And is crap compared to AX
@NetworkAdvisor
@NetworkAdvisor 4 жыл бұрын
excellent work Chuck! Would highly recommend anyone who wants to get up to speed on the AX standard in a short period of time. And, I love your analogies! I love explaining tech concepts by relating them to concrete laymans' items like mulit-lane highways (64 vs. 32 bit) or Matryoshka doll (encapsulation of the OSI layers). Thank you so much for the production work. :-)
@isdaDoughboy
@isdaDoughboy 4 жыл бұрын
Lol.. “one day we’ll all be teleworking from home” Welp... it happened
@isdaDoughboy
@isdaDoughboy 3 жыл бұрын
​@SoulWorthy okay.
@JeremyBaileyJuggles
@JeremyBaileyJuggles 2 жыл бұрын
“Maybe one day, none of us will be in the office.” - Pretty apt observation, Mr. Network Chuck! It came sooner than any of us realized!
@davidnickel3949
@davidnickel3949 5 жыл бұрын
mu-mimo was to fix this as well
@kevinkesler6856
@kevinkesler6856 5 жыл бұрын
Mentioning mu-mimo in this video would be a good idea, because it's a Wifi 5 protocol that gets part of the way here. Some downsides to mu-mimo: - 5ghz only (not 2.4) - download (router to device) only - less supported streams
@needsomehike
@needsomehike 4 жыл бұрын
i am so happy you guys came up with this. I am getting ready for my exam and this video confused the hell out of me. MU-MIMO 802.11ac supports multiple users downlink. Period!
@fastlanerc8
@fastlanerc8 4 жыл бұрын
needsomehike I’m glad I stumbled upon your comment, since I was confused as well and realized mu-mimo exists. I’m thinking WiFi 6 as a standard protocol will eventually be cheaper then adding mu-mimo to your access points, which is probably what will happen.
@MicodexClark
@MicodexClark 3 жыл бұрын
Man your training is awesome. Your method should be trademarked. Thank you.
@Brizizaz
@Brizizaz 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man, i work for Charter Spectrum. I’ve been telling all of my fellow workers to give your channel a look. You give so many great sources and such amazing info, i couldnt help but share it. Thank you again man #beardbadass
@NetworkChuck
@NetworkChuck 5 жыл бұрын
Dude! Thanks Brad!!
@DENicholsAutoBravado
@DENicholsAutoBravado 5 жыл бұрын
LOL. I've mentioned him a few times to classmates in Network Administration.
@jonhardcoq9035
@jonhardcoq9035 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing explanation! If I only had teachers like you when I was getting outta high school I would have gone to college for the computer industry
@husker_nation
@husker_nation 5 жыл бұрын
Finally! Can't wait till this rolls out!
@GeorgeMulak
@GeorgeMulak 3 жыл бұрын
You are getting better and better as a teacher! Your video's are even MORE professional. What a great job. Thank you for all your work.
@darrellmay4502
@darrellmay4502 5 жыл бұрын
The background music should be a little lower in vol. , it is distracting,,, ✨
@heatherharris7069
@heatherharris7069 3 жыл бұрын
You taught me exactly what I needed to know about wifi. Great experience. Thank you.
@SingularityHRT
@SingularityHRT 5 жыл бұрын
Nice information but was a bit of a drag with too much time for every small term...
@mrgjr8758
@mrgjr8758 5 жыл бұрын
He talks about wifi 6 but he explained it like wifi 1 speed, lol
@joech1065
@joech1065 5 жыл бұрын
I liked extra explanations. Just listen at higher speed if you want it faster.
@sasuke20989
@sasuke20989 5 жыл бұрын
Ummmm every detail matters corner cutting niney
@banana_bread_at_work
@banana_bread_at_work 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the thoroughness
@taitronghoang
@taitronghoang 3 жыл бұрын
Every hard definitions just turn out so easy to understand. This is insane!
@quadcom
@quadcom 5 жыл бұрын
QUESTION: Could a wifi5 client take advantage of the OFDMA features of the wifi6 (pre)standard?
@denton3737
@denton3737 5 жыл бұрын
So, a lot of what he's talking about here is MU-MIMO, which is a feature of 802.11ac Wave2. Granted, it can't do the upload side that he talks about, but a 4x4 5Ghz 802.11ac Wave2 AP could connect 4 devices with their own 1x1 chain, or could have 2 phones each share a 2x2 chain with one other phone. Thus keeping congestion from becoming a problem. Ubiquiti has the Unifi AP-XG which has MU-MIMO with 4 4x4 chains in it (effectively a 16x16 radio). Max recommended clients is 1000 per AP, theoretical max is 1500 clients per AP with an aggregate throughput of 4.2Gb/s. A lot of what he's talking about is already here with 802.11ac Wave2
@quadcom
@quadcom 5 жыл бұрын
@@denton3737 This article seems to contradict your viewpoint - www.networkworld.com/article/3184077/tapping-the-brakes-on-802-11ac-wave-2.html
@denton3737
@denton3737 5 жыл бұрын
@@quadcom I question some of the validity of the article. Lots of devices support MU-MIMO. I know the samsung galaxy has since at least the S8, I would assume Apple has since roughly the same time. Now, AC devices from before 2016 most likely don't. This would include a lot of wireless cards in devices like laptop, desktop PCI cards, phones and tablets from before 2016 as well. Essentially all mid range and up devices from 2017 and all AC devices from last year support MU-MIMO. It's just that a lot of those older devices haven't been replaced yet. A lot of people jumped on the AC wireless train and haven't need a reason to buy a new laptop as theirs from 2015 or 16 is working fine. I think that may be what they're trying to get at here. As more devices are replaced while waiting for WiFi 6, wave2 devices will become more common and Wave2 will become more useful. Don't get me wrong, Wifi 6 will be great, as it'll be an expansion on ac (think of the jump from N to AC) but I don't expect adoption rates to be as quick as AC was. As far as your original question, which I think I actually glossed over entirely, the new standard will be backwards compatible with AC wave 1 and 2, but you will not get the other additional features of the new standard like simultaneous 2.4 and 5 ghz connections, or the tweaks and additions to MU-MIMO
@patrickjfry
@patrickjfry 5 жыл бұрын
@@quadcom I don't really see how the link you posted contradicts anything he said. They don't give any technical details, they basically say 802.11ac Wave2 isn't that beneficial to most organizations because the devices connecting to it don't support it. Kind of a silly argument against it imo. BUT the comment you replied to seems to be implying that this video is talking about MU-MIMO or that MU-MIMO and OFDMA are the same thing.. It's not. They're not. MU-MIMO and OFDMA are not the same thing. Sure, you could say that MU-MIMO tried to address the same issue that OFDMA does but not in the same way and not to the same extent.
@trakeC
@trakeC 4 жыл бұрын
Networking companies love ROM specifically not eeprom(electronically erasable programmable read only memory). so it gets flashed and is permanent. There are other kinds of ROM but the cheapest ROM is permanently written once at the factory and cant be changed.. Different company's use different technologies depending on social, in-house, and government demands. But I've tried to overwrite enough networking systems I feel comfortable saying most people are going to be throwing away their routers.
@dbarker79
@dbarker79 4 жыл бұрын
Just got my Netgear AX router. Now my Galaxy S10 Plus has a little 6 in the wifi symbol up top. Speed is a lot better. Great video man!
@meyr1992
@meyr1992 4 жыл бұрын
I like how he randomly started playing VR while explaining
@87vortex87
@87vortex87 3 жыл бұрын
I got it now, devices I have support it. In the appartement building is a lot of noise. But now I have full ISP speed, absolutely maxed out, latency very good, no lags on any device. Perfect upgrade!
@Lo2y
@Lo2y 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, super informative 👍🏼, would be much better if the topic took only 10 or 5 minutes max. Keep up the great work.
@JohnPretto
@JohnPretto 4 жыл бұрын
Great Channel. I've been in the IT business over 30 years now, and I enjoy your content.
@onupirat
@onupirat 5 жыл бұрын
Is my current phone gonna work with that technology, or we'll have to wait for next gen phones?
@Duglum666
@Duglum666 5 жыл бұрын
Next gen, you need different hardware.
@PenneyThoughts
@PenneyThoughts 5 жыл бұрын
afaik, only the Samsung Galaxy 10 supports Wifi 6 atm.
@MrBjorn6
@MrBjorn6 5 жыл бұрын
@@PenneyThoughts What about Note 9?
@Brianpvpfactions
@Brianpvpfactions 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrBjorn6 nope
@josuealabama
@josuealabama 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Walker only 2019 devices
@christianpauldugenia4616
@christianpauldugenia4616 2 жыл бұрын
made me understand IT more.. I love the way how you get the point across in a more understandable manner. Made it easier and more interesting. Thank you!!! keep it up!
@andrewwells8588
@andrewwells8588 5 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention MIMO (multiple input multiple output) on wifi 5
@thedevmachine
@thedevmachine 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed 2x2 4x4 MiMo
@Drew-C-
@Drew-C- 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. He said all the way up to AC (WIFI 5), APs can only communicate with one device at a time. Isn't this incorrect since WIFI 5 (Wave 2) introduced 2x2, 3x3, and 4x4 MU-MIMO?
@scottedmonston4458
@scottedmonston4458 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Especially with MU-MIMO. I have had no issues with multiple users on public WiFi "5" even to the point where I can use a weak VoIP app on my tablet, through public WiFi, all the way to a cell phone and have minimal issues compared to 4G LTE. I hope AX is as great as Chuck describes, but I don't think the issue is a prevalent as walking through a mall. I mean if there is somewhere that you can probably get great public WiFi, it's probably at one of the dead malls throughout America, where you quite literally are not competing with any other devices for your WiFi signal. Chuck, you do a great job with a lot of these videos, but I don't believe you are being truthful with this one.
@jonmcgrath8760
@jonmcgrath8760 4 жыл бұрын
WOW this was great! Thank you for posting this - I am SOOOO sick of hearing people doing AC vs AX comparisons and giving the wrong information! I had a good laugh though, because I use the same highway analogies when explaining this to people :)
@blackphidora
@blackphidora 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Chuck, how does this compare to MIMO. Does this new standard reduce the need for MIMO?
@pez347
@pez347 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. Probably just increase the efficiency of MU-MIMO.
@NetworkChuck
@NetworkChuck 5 жыл бұрын
BOOM! I definitely COULD NOT have said it better myself. Appreciate you stopping by Robb!
@FitandFabinvestor
@FitandFabinvestor 4 жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation I have seen on WIFI 6 so far. Instant sub. Great content
@CBTstreams
@CBTstreams 5 жыл бұрын
I'm still in April fools PTSD checking when any video in my recommended was published 🤣
@therealb888
@therealb888 5 жыл бұрын
Lol flashbacks!
@FloridaFamFive
@FloridaFamFive 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chuck for taking your time to teach us things. I been watching your videos for a time know and you really do put it in a perspective we can understand.
@Beady2
@Beady2 5 жыл бұрын
what about security if modem gonna send a one big packet with information for lets say 5 devices so if you can intercept that one packet you will be able to get alot of more information, isnt that gonna be a issue ?
@bkrharold
@bkrharold 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps I am not understanding it perfectly, but from what I gathered the bandwidth will be split into multiple independent virtual channels according to requirements, each channel will occupy a slightly different frequency range in the bandwidth, and communications with each access point will be independent of each other. So they should not be lumped together into one packet.
@trakeC
@trakeC 4 жыл бұрын
Thats what I was gonna ask. Thanks harold
@nono_ct200
@nono_ct200 4 жыл бұрын
18:28 that scene made it very well understanding for me and surely for many more too.
@JosePerez-bi4ge
@JosePerez-bi4ge 5 жыл бұрын
They should name it like USB 3.0 This could be " Wifi3 Gen 2.2 acXnXbg 4x4 "
@freakboy40
@freakboy40 4 жыл бұрын
This is an old video but I wished I watched it when it was uploaded. Excellent job breaking this stuff down comprehensively even for novice like me.
@Jeff321
@Jeff321 5 жыл бұрын
WPA3 is huge as well for the security of public WiFi. It is a requirement of WiFi 6 too.
@GSP-76
@GSP-76 3 жыл бұрын
Love your channel...watched a few videos earlier today and now I'm hopping around. Subscribed!
@MichaelImo
@MichaelImo 5 жыл бұрын
wow this channel is growing! I remember when you did the interview with simple programmer and I subbed right away just curiously! Happy to be apart of the fam :) also could you do a video on your recording set up? it looks cool
@NetworkChuck
@NetworkChuck 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for subbing way back then! It was so cool to collab with Simple Programmer.
@grimm_
@grimm_ 5 жыл бұрын
It's almost as if you're able to communicate with multiple users at once across the same channel
@alvallac2171
@alvallac2171 5 жыл бұрын
*a part "Apart"as one word means "separate from," so basically the opposite meaning.
@achad_14
@achad_14 5 жыл бұрын
Hey bro... I really liked the video, I have to be honest... you did so well that I will start using the idea you use to explain how wifi works to my customers. I work at Cisco TAC for the wireless team and some times stuff gets too complicated to explain it to someone that has no idea how wifi works. The simplest the better... great content!!
@etherealblue
@etherealblue 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm at the mall right now" 😭😭😭😭😭 R.I.P. 2020
@homerisian
@homerisian 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, never have I had wifi explained in more interesting and compelling way. Great work.
@rimmersbryggeri
@rimmersbryggeri 5 жыл бұрын
Well you shouldnt use public wifi anyway.
@samdesota5452
@samdesota5452 5 жыл бұрын
With the widespread adoption of TLS, for the vast majority of activities it's not unsafe to use public wifi, assuming there's not a secret global hacker ring selling TLS private keys of major websites.
@davidjewel1453
@davidjewel1453 5 жыл бұрын
Its perfectly ok if you have a VPN protection.. Verizon offers it automatically on their phones and connected devices such as tablets.. I personally use NORD anyway to protect better and also hide my location when its necessary as some sites seem to think they should block US users
@matthewwilliams9288
@matthewwilliams9288 5 жыл бұрын
You should use a VPN and several other things with pubWI
@Tonyzany23
@Tonyzany23 4 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic presentation! Chuck you are a great teacher. Easy to listen to, easy to understand.
@bigice7184
@bigice7184 5 жыл бұрын
I watched this at 1.25x speed and was tempted to go even higher. This video felt way too long. At so many points I thought that you've already established the how and why of a topic but you went on an repeated it. When you introduced the highway analogy it was clear fairly quick that you were about to explain that the new protocol is going to have multiple lanes and is going to allow side by side communication to multiple end devices. Maaan did you ride that horse dead. Was this video targeted to my mom?
@GottZ
@GottZ 4 жыл бұрын
literally pumping this video through wifi 6 right now
@peterxyz3541
@peterxyz3541 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Good info. If I may submit a user feedback: too long of a video for something that can be explained in 3-5 min
@saabajoe
@saabajoe 5 жыл бұрын
This dude makes me want to be in this field soooo bad. You are providing a great service my man ✊🏿 great vids btw 👌🏿
@exil3dlivecom
@exil3dlivecom 5 жыл бұрын
As soon as hear him say Alexa, I cringed. Didn't you hear about the court cases of judges ordering Alexa recordings? Insane. Stay away like the plague
@DENicholsAutoBravado
@DENicholsAutoBravado 5 жыл бұрын
I've heard that too, but is it rumor or the truth. Granted, I heard about it from my teacher at Networking Administration school, so that is a reliable source.
@exil3dlivecom
@exil3dlivecom 5 жыл бұрын
@@DENicholsAutoBravado it's very true. We are buying home voice recorders for government agencies. The line needs to he drawn somewhere and currently no one is drawing it. Google the court case. That's frightening. I'm in the IT field, I could tell you more but I will he called a tin hat wearing alt right. :/
@PongoXBongo
@PongoXBongo 5 жыл бұрын
So, keep your home dumb out of fear for _potential, future_ danger? Hey, did you know they can tap into your phone calls and listen to everything you say? Time to get rid of all your phones.
@GodsSoldier2
@GodsSoldier2 3 жыл бұрын
You put off some pretty dope Bill Nye vibes man. Awesome Video!
@crax4dan
@crax4dan 5 жыл бұрын
This video reminds me of that Steve Jobs video presentation unveiling and asked everyone to turn their phones off because they were all connected to the wifi crashing his demonstration
@bahaelarbi
@bahaelarbi 4 жыл бұрын
surprised !!! I'm an IT Engineer and didn't no this , amazing ! WIFI 6 , thanks Man
@elvispressedtalot9899
@elvispressedtalot9899 5 жыл бұрын
Unifi LR UAP + EDGEROUTER X = BEST ROutER to Buy.. . Set up is 2-4steps.
@tsipher
@tsipher 2 жыл бұрын
I am a Residential Technician for Xfinity, since we implemented WiFi 6 (802.11ax) modems, I have found that they are way better in terms of latency and troubleshooting. At first, the modems did have a couple of issues but they have since been resolved
@renderdreality
@renderdreality 5 жыл бұрын
Please when you do these film bear in mind that you are talking to adults.
@ScottishRebel
@ScottishRebel 5 жыл бұрын
not everyone watching is an adult
@justind880
@justind880 5 жыл бұрын
Working in the wireless industry I just had to watch this. **Claps** for the laughs!! Would take an even longer video to correct the misinformation here
@wilurbean
@wilurbean 5 жыл бұрын
tons of certs and book know how, no hands on
@justind880
@justind880 5 жыл бұрын
much better way to put it! I did not do my research on the provider of this video. Just the content for what it was worth
@LeeFall
@LeeFall 5 жыл бұрын
Multiplexing... What a new a revolutionary idea.... What a joke... Takes these companies years to work out multiplexing is an option...
@FewcanJAM
@FewcanJAM 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah man. That’s why I work for Cradlepoint
@willfischer3724
@willfischer3724 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your attitude and excitement, it’s contagious! You’ve made topics that I’ve found daunting to be much more exciting, leading me to purchase a subscription to codecademy to get started with Python. Keep up the great work and keep on loving the Lord!
@abdurrafay8084
@abdurrafay8084 5 жыл бұрын
Chuck excellent video! I loved the way you talk!! I didn't stick to the video until end because of wifi 6, i stick to it because of your delivery!!
@dylan3753
@dylan3753 5 жыл бұрын
really long winded but that's because I'm not the target audience.
@Tech-49
@Tech-49 5 жыл бұрын
but you were obligated to make this comment to let everyone else know
@wswerdr
@wswerdr 5 жыл бұрын
It an amazing content especially when the access point said:- "Hey, everyone, be quiet!" it is a fantastic expression that tells you how the control might come to Wireless devices like A.P. and the controllers especially if we know routers and switches controls everything in networking infrastructure L2 and L3 protocols. Again I love your content a lot. Thank you!
@dylanmcconnell409
@dylanmcconnell409 5 жыл бұрын
You're a good speaker but come across as that overly chipper Cisco salesman that insists on taking you out to lunch a little too often.
@PJBhm
@PJBhm 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Chuck, even with Wi-Fi AC you have now AP that do MIMO (3x3 or even 4x4) so they can talk to several devices at the same time.
@discodench
@discodench 5 жыл бұрын
Is there an answer to outdated hipster looks? That needs to be looked at after wifi is solved.
@NetworkChuck
@NetworkChuck 5 жыл бұрын
ouch! Lol. I'll take the fashion advice...what do I need? (The beard stays)
@hadiasghari2266
@hadiasghari2266 4 жыл бұрын
new to network world since then enjoying each second of my life
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