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[@Setharius]

But can Raycon's feed in pinball table sounds and drown out the surrounding sounds so I can get into my game without audio interferrence during tournaments?

[@avirei98]

1:35 It's so weird that this video pops up as I just start talking to a guy who tells me that he offers his partners to have a side man because he can't keep up with doing it more than once a day. So if he has any partner who wants it more than once a day he will allow them to have pretty much a boyfriend. And I'm like that is a weird thing because I will want it want more than once a day. But I don't want an extra person. I am monogamous and then this video pops up about a show that's literally meant allowing their girls to do that and it's just what a weird coincidence

[@Neets812]

P

[@jaz558]

Why do you hate Americans so much?

[@jaz558]

You constantly drop ignorant lame jokes about America being a sh!tty country and Americans as idiots. Very ignorant and hateful of you. While you try to act like a "nice guy"

[@noodlesofoodles]

she had the audacity to judge the artist guy saying “are you even committed to any of those girls”, like girl, are you committed to your HUSBAND?!

[@ktp.]

This is why Mike should turn the tables on her because she'll only tolerate non-commitment if done by her only.🏃‍♂🧗💨

[@hughesnum3]

THIS! 🎯🎯🎯

[@ScriabinOTBeach]

"I have to keep reminding myself that this is what we wanted"...yeahhhh man whatever helps you sleep at night

[@sparkzyfulton5774]

Lol nah when I heard that I said if you have to remind yourself that's what you wanted then it's not what you wanted... if it was it would come pretty naturally without having to think about why or being told why you should be okay with it

[@yilz123]

Poor guy… if he’s not into poly just don’t do it

[@sparkzyfulton5774]

Guys Definitely not actually into this. He's obviously bothered by it. Sadly it's extremely common for people to deal with things they shouldn't in order to not be single... he doesn't want to be single so he would likely put up with nearly anything the b did and convince himself he's OK with it so he doesn't feel like he has to leave her. Often only thing that breaks somone out of that is getting very close to another person and knowing that other person is wanting to be with them as well. It's hard. But alot alot of people have this type of co dependence... where it's not so much about needing that particular person but have a strange fear of being single. Afraid that they might actually not find someone new or a million other reasons but yeah it's sad as fudge. Some people are ok with poly lifestyle... or someone have a kink for watching thier partner hook up with others or whatever else and that's completely fine if both truly want it but it's clear he is just putting up with it. She's got his ballz in her purse... doesn't really want to play with them but refuses to hand them back. She doesn't want him either she enjoys having the control. Maybe it's her kink... or she's just a selfish biiiaahch. I mean listen to how she constantly interrupts him if interviewing together. How she walks a step ahead of him and when sitting together her shoulders and body has to be closest to the camera or whatever else is the point of interest. She got all the power and poor gut is just being broken down more and more by her while she gains more power over him.

[@ruthlessrude6014]

😂😂😂😂

[@Jo-zi5px]

😂😂😂 I can’t imagine demanding this from my husband ☠️

[@jovalove]

You can be polyamorous without gaslighting manipulating and completely disregarding your first partner. She’s the WORST

[@ADIMontenegro]

Yeah the whole poly thing is a joke. There is no logic in it.

[@yvechapman9342]

In my opinion you can't be poly with those things lol. Though I thought different when I was much younger.

[@Kitty.ggaall]

​@@ADIMontenegro It's not, some people are just selfish assholes. All types of relationships need healthy boundaries n communication, n she did none of those. She cheated n instead of respecting Mike wanting monogamy, she just did what she wanted to do

[@cwcpants140]

@@ADIMontenegrothere is. You’re just too narrow-minded to understand it. Your judgment, some biases prevent you from actually seen truth. I’ll pray for you. 🙏

[@LewdNoodz]

@@ADIMontenegro There's no logic in it if your smooth brained, I guess.

[@THEDubbleHelixx]

She didn't like Isaac because she doesn't want any of her men to see other women, while Isaac sounded like he's actually polyamorous. The way she assumes he can't have a deep relationship with her if he's seeing other people shows exactly how she really is with her husband.

[@urahi830]

Isaac sounds like a creepy fuckboy, so yeah like most poly dudes who are actually dating multiple people and are not just being cucked

[@Llkolii]

Its so sad honestly

[@bexproctor360]

Absolutely!

[@craigchaytor9109]

The minute she first described polyamory as being a women with multiple partners I knew she was going to have issues.

[@LorenzoGonzalesBrady]

She broke him. He needs to leave and get some therapy.

[@Kayla-rd5jd]

seriously, my heart breaks for him. i really hope he can see that he deserves so much more & can get that elsewhere. this woman is not worth a second of his time at all, she’s disgustingly selfish & emotionally abusive

[@Leslee_Lane]

Imagine how Mike would react if he had a woman who actually loved him.

[@asarishepard8171]

Watch if he cashed in on the open part, shed flip out and make him dump his new girl. They're hypocrites, all of them.

[@flatfacedcat]

He probably wouldn't recognize her if she existed. Not until he becomes a healed person.

[@Leslee_Lane]

I hope he finds out he is worth so much more. She may be pretty now on the outside. Beauty fades, then she has nothing other than an entitled attitude.

[@froglegstastebestsalted]

​@TheZeagon it's oddly common

[@Leslee_Lane]

@@flatfacedcat I agree. He has lots of healing to to do. That is sad that this woman has him following her around like a puppy. She needs to let him go!

[@killergrooves2438]

This is sad af. She’s not poly, she’s just unsatisfied with her husband and wants something that isn’t him, but she likes the stability he offers. That’s why she cheated. If she was single and found the perfect guy for her that checks all her boxes and rocks her world, you think she’d be in an open relationship? Hell no. She’d lock that dude down and be jealous as hell if he even looked at another woman. I feel bad for her husband, but he’s doing it to himself because he’s too afraid to be alone or look for someone else. My gf of over 3 years still makes me feel like I’m the only guy in the world. She’s still down bad for me after all this time and always makes me feel good about myself. I wish more people knew what that felt like because then they wouldn’t put up with the bs this guy is putting up with.

[@Laura-vs6fs]

love to hear about loving relationships IRL, especially seeing this content. I generally don't watch these shows, but Leo makes very witty, funny yet insightful commentary about them. I hope you guys will cherish each other for a very long time and wish you guys all the luck and love in this world 😊

[@violetdawn7036]

Imma be honest That's how polycules work 99% of the time Unless none of the people actually love eachother cause they completely lack attachment and just want a fwb group for sex

[@violetdawn7036]

I was in a polycule It was emotionally abusive and I felt like I was never important I got broken up with because the gf of the guy (that threatened and lovebombed me into dating) told him to do it On the night of me having a huge CPTSD flashback episode I got no comfort No empathy Nothing Because she felt jealous whenever I was treated as a person. Even though he didn't comfort me 99% of the time On even a friendly level she once decided to cry and argue for multiple days cause he gave me a hug, because I felt sad over something bad happening in my family. Never in my life did I not feel like a sex toy being passed around.

[@miffedcuttlefish6139]

3 years. . . I hope that continues, man. As a married gal who dated her boyfriend for 5 years and we've been together for 11 years, it takes a lot of work on both of your parts, a lot of give and take, but it is well worth it. Make sure you're both giving 100/100 because half is not going to be it. I wish you all the best.

[@michalovesanime]

​​@@violetdawn7036i know multiple poly people and thats not how it works for them. They have set partners, a main one and quite a few of them know eachother and spend time together. Im sorry that youve had a horrible experience, but dont use your anecdotal experience and do the 99% thing. Abuse happens in a lot of monogamous relationships, yet we dont go around saying 99% of monogamous relationships are abusive. Hell ive been in multiple monogamous relationships where I was made to feel like a sex toy, sexually assaulted and not respected. I wouldnt now say, just because my experiences have been mostly negative, that 99% of monogamous relationships are just like that. You have every right to feel that youd never be in one again, to share your experience and you were obviously severly mistreated. But non monogamy already has a stigma due to peoples ignorance, no need to paint poly as always horrible. Thats not true. And this type of behavior can and does also happen in non poly relationships. You had a shit hand and dealt with horrible people

[@Those.who.stay.silent.consent]

Man, someone roll a blunt for our lost friend here, she is absolutely despicable and she is stomping on his heart and manhood. She’s the definition of a dark narcissist

[@lynnvon8758]

Dude don't diagnose ppl on the Internet ur not professional

[@cwcpants140]

@@lynnvon8758right?! People like him are so ignorant. It’s even more cringy that he wants to call her a “nArCisSist” like bro. Narcissism is a complex disorder. ALL mental illnesses are so complex so why are all these kids trying to diagnose people? I study psychology. Like honestly, someone can be just a bad person. They dont gotta be a narcissist. They dont gotta be “gAdLiGhTiNg” you, they can simply be a not-as-good person. The funny part is that people like him confidentially misdiagnose people. I cannot tell you how many times I’ve seen comments like that and after watching the video, I can confidently conclude that the diagnosis was an absolute BS. Can we get over calling everyone we don’t like a narcissist, so that we can reserve the term for true narcissists? I mean thats logical to me, maybe everyone elses logic circuits are broken.. watering down the term by trying to apply to everyone you dislike is just stupid, ignorant and beyond short sighted.

[@PhoenixRoseYT]

@@cwcpants140hey g00fball someone can be a narcissist without being NPD, it’s literally been an adjective way before the disorder was ever even made into a diagnosis.

[@starblaster8766]

​@@cwcpants140cool story bro

[@iparizotto]

Boo fucking hoo, he is an adult with agency here going along with a situation he hates because he's too chickenshit to say no. At least she's honest about not being attracted to him

[@fahsky]

My favorite outcome to these polyamorous disaster stories I've seen online: the partner that is obviously miserable with their partner cheating in their face (ala Mike) tries dating other people as well, finds someone that treats them with more love & respect than the dipshit that opened the relationship & leaves them for a monogamous relationship with the new partner.

[@billiejean685]

samee

[@bexproctor360]

Agreed 😊

[@jamienicole2122]

Yes, that’s the best outcome, but unfortunately one rarely sees a good outcome of any of this nonsense. 😢

[@AstralAnubes]

Always happens poly is a joke I have never seen a happy poly relationship. Everyone wants to settle down eventually. It’s also kinda crazy that people even have the energy & time for multiple partners.

[@eggnogalcoholic]

I mean the phrase “brother husband” alines with the more widely known “sister wife” but it’s a HELL NO from me to both of them

[@ayajade6683]

I couldn't tell if it was a show for finding your brother a husband or a sister wives clone from the title tbh

[@paigelam6913]

I like how she rags on her husband about how boring he is and that's why she wants a side piece when she's so basic herself. Lady, your "craziest" job was dog walking.

[@mosaicofmentalhealth]

My heart hurts for this poor guy. She's a total narcissist.

[@chiamrandall8188]

The fact that the mom and the friends can truly see that he doesn’t want this for real. Like they see his hurt so clearly but can’t do anything to help him.

[@nikki8889991122]

If I ever hear anyone start off a story with “So I was out line dancing”, I’m automatically going to believe the story is just going to end so disastrously and end with a bunch of dumb decisions that I’m going to get severely disappointed. Also I don’t know who Mike is trying to convince, everyone else or himself, that he’s completely 100% okay with his wife’s requests.

[@noodlesofoodles]

he's definitely trying to convince himself, that's why he said "I have to keep reminding myself that this is what we wanted".

[@marcosfern777]

Ya same lol

[@hiryuumage]

Or end with expectations met on the disaster front. 😅 It's weird that line dancing seems synonymous with disaster and dumb decisions, since something like that happened once around me, out in podunk west Texas to make it even better. I was 8 at the time, so I wasn't directly involved, just witness to a family friend. Was so memorable I never forgot. 😬 Learned from others' mistakes.

[@xPershionx]

This entire video just breaks my heart. This man deserves so much better than this chick. She is absolutely just looking for a way to find a 'better' partner while still having the security of having Mike around until she replaces him. He's trying so hard to justify these actions in his head and has such good people around him, but his wife is so beyond toxic, it just makes my heart ache for him :( Move to Canada, I'll date you Mike. And never cheat on you or make you feel like you are less than. This man is way better than he thinks he is and way too good for that cheating loser. This is not a poly relationship, this is a broken man trying everything he can to keep his wife knowing she has zero love and respect for him. Bad all around :(

[@NoNameNomad....]

I completely agree with you, but also Mike if you see this, you're welcome to come here to the UK too as I'd date you. Let's get Mike to realise his worth, he already has us two here appreciating him. We'll keep it classy though, no fighting 👊👊 (yet 😉) She's using Mike for the stability he offers her without giving the same love back. He deserves so much better, poor guy.

[@xPershionx]

@@NoNameNomad.... B'ahaha. I'd definitely fight for him :p He seems like such a genuine guy and is pretty darn cute. He definitely deserves so much better than her.

[@thestraydog]

He needs some good friends who'll sit down and be honest with him and ask him if he's being honest with himself about how he feels about the situation. It sucks to see a good, committed guy like him being used for his love and care while his partner doesn't seem to give a damn about him! I've had a few relationships where my gf has cheated on me and I had to have the self-esteem to stand up and say "no, I don't deserve this" no matter how much I felt for them. He needs to have the same. Poor guy...

[@NoNameNomad....]

@@xPershionx ok, it's on lol 👊👊👊 😉

[@NoNameNomad....]

@@thestraydog I'm glad you knew your worth and left. To cheat on your partner is such a selfish, disrespectful thing to do. You don't cheat and lie especially to someone you claim to love. It's such a betrayal of trust and is do disrespectful. Hope your doing ok now and you have someone who loves and respects you, or if your single your happy in the knowledge you didn't just settle and allow yourself to be taken advantage of.

[@naruli]

So, I used to live with a couple like this. She wanted polyamory, he went with it. He didn’t do it because he wanted to, he did it bc he didn’t want to lose her. She did it because she didn’t want to date him anymore but didn’t really want to break up. It was horrifying, toxic and he was a shell of the man I once knew. I knew him over 10 years. When people both want it, it’s so clear and when it’s no longer a relationship, it’s just two people holding onto something, it’s even more clear. I feel so bad for Mike.

[@arianelevesque3899]

You used to live with them?? Imma need context on that 😂

[@naruli]

@@arianelevesque3899 LMAO well we all moved into a place together because they lived with her parents and I wanted out of my current rental. Eventually, I moved out because my mental health was suffering from their issues.

[@Anna.T.]

That’s a bit similar to a friend of mine. Her boyfriend wanted to be poly, she didn’t but went along with it. She became less and less happy, and a few years later a guy came along who said he would never share her. Long story short, they’ve been married for 2 years and she’s never been this happy.

[@StarlaBizarre]

I also used to work with a girl like this too! She was so irritating and constantly talking about her endeavors and all these different sex things she did, even though she had a boyfriend at home. He never did anything with anyone else, didn't want to be poly at all, but she said that he just went along with it because he knew that if he said no then she would just leave

[@asarishepard8171]

​@@StarlaBizarrepeople have to b e ok with being alone. Just leave people that want to disrespect you!

[@bloodyblades202]

Nah, this is literally the "fake polyamory" meme where someone cheats on their partner and is suddenly polyamorous when their partner clearly isn't. It's heartbreaking. Poor Mike definitely deserves better, but he also needs to grow a backbone and stand up for himself. There is genuinely no way being in an awful, manipulative relationship like this is better than just being single, especially when he's got such supportive friends who seem to genuinely care about him. And the scene at the end, where Mike says he might wants kids and then "takes it back" when she goes off on him is just super uncomfortable. They have a borderline emotionally abusive relationship, and they're just airing it on TV for the world to see. Hope Mike steps away from the whole thing and starts taking care of himself eventually.

[@user-mf1kv4lk2m]

You are correct but manipulation n coercing someone into doing something against their will IS abuse. He needs to get away from her asap

[@MG-ku2nv]

This is abuse and I’m sure it’s worse off camera. He stays because it’s abusive; abusers have so many manipulation tactics to keep their partner from leaving

[@bexproctor360]

I wouldn't say it's borderline, I'd say full on abuse! But yes I agree with everything else

[@ironmountain7907]

This is painful to watch, you can see the guys soul being shattered and he does nothing… I guess it’s his fault at that point. Have some respect for yourself dude! I would love to know an update on the couple.

[@F1nalB0zz]

Update: shes getting pounded and hes crying at home while it happens

[@knitwitchpgh]

As someone poly and with multiple partners, this woman is why people assume poly people just wanna cheat. 😵‍💫🙄 There's SO much communication and boundaries involved and she's just walking all over her husband. She's toxic and horrible to her mike. He needs to leave her and find someone who wants a monogamous relationship

[@SpaceGhost999]

The fact that she can't even sense the irony in saying "I want someone who is self aware" while being so WILDLY self unaware is amazing to me. I don't feel sorry for Mike, because it's totally his fault that this is happening.

[@christina-od3cj]

Mike just needs to say that he wants to start dating...she won't be as bubbly and happy about that.

[@themusicaljunkie37]

Oh yeah..

[@squreshi10]

Who knows, she might not give a shit?

[@bexproctor360]

Definitely!

[@MindyGail]

Yeah, apparently, a lot of married people have open relationships. I've been hit on before and said I'm married... and then I was told they've been with a lot of married women because of open relationships. I was like I'm happily married, and my husband is an amazing man and an angel, never going to happen... I will never be interested in that, I already have the best man ever in my eyes.

[@StarlaBizarre]

Haha even when I have weird sex dreams, in the dream I'm always like "no... I can't.. I'm married.. this would ruin my life" (and it's to like, some shark monster on a boat) lmao

[@MindyGail]

​@@StarlaBizarrelol I just love and respect my husband too much. He's an awesome guy and deserves a loyal and devoted wife.

[@Pinkalicious112]

It's clear that Mike isn't happy, and that woman doesn't respect or care for him. He needs to stand up for himself and leave, he deserves so much better.

[@aphoticlotus4625]

Dude. I have a very old and very close friend. They’re so afraid of being alone, that they stay in an open marriage, sleep in a separate room, cook, clean, work a full time job… 🤦🏻‍♀️ Just ALL the things, and more I can’t mention. We stopped talking bcuz I couldn’t stand to hear them keep talking about how miserable and taken advantage of they were, but be too scared of being alone to walk away. It’s hard to watch someone choose to hurt themselves rather than be alone.

[@maxmeier532]

what more cant you mention, that's weird.

[@klutzyk]

Sometimes it takes an ally to help you pull yourself out from under the weight of emotional manipulation. That's what's happening, here and in your "friends" case. It's emotional manipulation, wrapped in emotional blackmail and hatted with the perfect dose of gaslighting. The many tactics used by manipulative people may very well have their victim feeling fear about 'being alone' but that's not the true fear that's formed and is rarely the underlying, root cause of that feeling. The affects of the mental abuse are just shining through. They've been broken down so thoroughly and consistently enough that they now believe that they'd be nothing without their abuser. In some cases they may have had orders being barked at them for so long that they don't even remember what It's like or even how to make their own decisions and choose for themselves. Being worn down like that takes time and persistence, maybe less if the victim is already insecure/ weak minded or are predisposed to be enablers of narssacistic and abusive behaviors. Falling in love with a manipulative person is so dangerous and hard to escape because they'll use that love against you like a weapon while at the same time using their absence of love qndand care for you to disregard your needs, wants and wellbeing. They wont slip up due to feelings of guilt or remorse, because they have none. you're their means to their desired end and nine times out of ten, they never loved you, they only loved the things they Hope to gain from using you. When you boil it down to the bare bones of "cause and affect" then i suppose you could write it off as them doing it to themselves. But imo, these people need help, love and support from their friends and family in this instance, maybe above any other. They may need someone to literally slap some sense into them, or come physically rescue them from their personal pit of hell. Leaving a manipulator is hard for so many reasons even only emotionally/mentally/psychology speaking. But beyond that, even if the victim has come to terms and realized the abuse for what it is, Leaving a manipulative person can be very dangerous. They often get violent, threaten physical harm or may destroy your possessions so they have the satisfaction of you actually leaving with nothing. When they cant control you, they'll control how others think of you. Starting a 'schmear campaign' to collapse other pillars in your social/professional life. Their own abuse may even lend credit to their lies as Reactive Abuse is a very real phenomenon, your fight or flight instincts will kick in when you've finally hit your breaking point and most victims will eventually lash out at their abusers often in ways very uncharacteristic to themselves. The abuser relies on these moments to aid in manipulating how others perceive you and will typically use them to sway the opinions of those who are closer to you and are not as easily convinced of their lies. Ig the tldr is that whoever this friend is, their abuser is absolutely BANKING on you distancing yourself into obscurity. Isolation is key for these people. Humans can't mentally survive in pure isolation, we need interaction and the abuser wants to make their victim soley reliant on them to receive this stimulation. Plus the added benefit that without an outsider perspective, there's no one to point out the abuse and manipulation and encourage you to leave.

[@amethyst0ne]

Choose your sanity ❤

[@user-mf1kv4lk2m]

I hope you rethink things bc that friend needs your support to help leave that abusive relationship ❤

[@aphoticlotus4625]

@@user-mf1kv4lk2m I didn’t make the decision to stop talking, although I did make the decision to speak frankly. Perhaps even harshly, which I regret. But- I can’t help them if they don’t want it. I also don’t think I’m obligated to keep throwing myself into their life, for what I think is best. They’ve made up their mind to do what they want, ya know?

[@EmeraldTaurus]

He should just go on dates and see how she feels lol 😂

[@nukaghoula]

That lad needs to work on his own self esteem and leave this mess its so clearly not what he actually wants - and she is just ignoring how obvious that is and taking full advantage. Ick ick ick

[@morri254]

as someone who is poly... i am two minutes in, and very annoyed. there are plenty of people in the world who are ok with this lifestyle. there is no reason to pressure people who are not ok with it. and no one has to be ok with it - if you're not wired that way, that is perfectly ok. i happen to have always been wired this way. it hasn't been easy. as a woman, when you express this, particularly when you are young and you have no idea there is a whole community of like minded individuals, guys can be friggn gross. i have always been respectful of my partners need to be monogomous and have either locked it down or moved on if i didnt think he was worth forgoing other partners. polyamory is about honesty and trust. the community is rife with people who use the poly flag to just cheat or be cheaters or who shame their partners for not just being ok with gross behaviour. she sucks edit: and omg that selfish to not want her to find love shit... this is exactly the sort of bs you find on the really toxic forums. no one is allowed to be insecure. no one is allowed to be jealous. if your partner is treating you like shit, YOU are the problem because YOU'RE controlling... its bullshit. it is perfectly normal to feel insecure or jealous at times and it is healthy to call your partner out if they're fucking around on you and crossing your boundaries - being poly is based on honesty and being able to establish and negotiate boundaries. that part where she is like "would you feel bad if you saw me with someone else... ": she wants him to feel bad, she gets off on him feeling cucked. this isnt poly rep edit2: this was his idea? bs. popping babies out? you're not the feminist icon you think you are gurl. his needs are allowed to change. his bros really are bros and i hope they stick around for the fallout. the hardest part i have found with polyamory early in life, was when you tell a guy you're like this, they think 1. great - then they get disappointed because i still have more game than them. 2. great - but they're still going to lie about shit because no one can sleep with other people unless you're lying... 3. boo - and even though i refuse to step out on a guy if he is monogamous, they're convinced im a sex mad pervert who is just waiting for the chance to cheat on him, even though i have done nothing but be TOO honest. these days, the world is more open and there are more networks and communities, more people being openly poly. should be my golden age... yeah nah. advice from a salty old poly... 1. if your partner wants to open the relationship and you're surprised or uncomfortable - trust that instinct, they have already picked out their cheating partner and they want permission. 2. if you have finally agreed to being poly and your partner is weird about you dating - this was only ever a vehicle for them to cheat. 3. i think some people are either wired for poly or for mono. both are ok. don't ever let someone pressure you into a lifestyle you're not wired for. this video is a prime example and my heart hurts watching this guy try so desperately to keep someone who is a liar and a cheater. 4. even if you are all in and poly; its ok to feel jealous and insecure. it isnt always about the sex etc. sometimes we go through shit that makes us feel less than perfect and seeing the one we love enjoying their time with someone else can make us feel shitter - thats normal. in a mono relationship its more likely theyll be solely focused on making you feel better but trust me, the only person who can heal your insecurity is you. that doesnt mean that you're a bad person for asking to pause extra curricular activities until you're in the right headspace. your partner should care about how you feel at all times, even if they're boning other people. 5. and if your partner shuts down any sort of talk about renegotiating the boundaries of your relationship because you're uncomfortable, just leave. they're going to cheat on you even if they finally agree to stop seeing other people. 6. being poly is like, the opposite of being a cheater. polyamory is based on honesty and trust, establishing boundaries and open communication. i think a lot of people cheat because they're not wired for monogamy and i think a lot of people lie about it because they're scared. there are worse people in the world than cowards. but i absolutely hate being painted with the same brush as a coward when i live my life with integrity. especially when it has cost me friendships and relationships and when i have been affected my whole life by the stereotypes put forward by this video leo has reacted to. and pps.. you cannot fix a problem in your relationship by pursuing other relationships. your problems expand exponentially. their issue wasn't that they had different sexual needs, their problem was that she didnt respect him and lied to him. additional relationships wont help that. she always gonna be a liar. if you have issues with lying and cheating, involving other people is not just useless, its unethical. these are innocent people. theyre not here to fix your shit. and you're about to treat them the same way you treated your partner. if your partner thinks another relationship will stop them cheating, i have news for you sis... if you're in this boat because of cheating, other partners wont fix that. it just complicates it

[@snes09]

you suck too tho. Stop pretending to be better than other poly people. Most normal people look at you with side eye.

[@BitsyGem]

ALL the applause to you! Couldn't have said it better as a fellow Polyam Person

[@pringlescan81]

I’m not poly. I’m strictly monogamous and don’t fully understand but this was enlightening. Thank you for sharing.

[@irisbear9421]

Having a poly relationship situation absolutely requires 💯 open and honest communication, even the hard things. You are spot on with your descriptions. ❤

[@urahi830]

"They are doing poly wrong" is the new "no true Scotsman". This is what polyamory looks like a solid 90% of the time, someone conned or tricked or straight-up abused into giving into a type of relationship that they aren't okay with in the slightest

[@rakly3473]

As soon she finds another guy that can give her the same comfort in lifestyle, or better, she's divorcing him.

[@KrKohaku]

I feel like she purposefully just wants to hurt Mike. Poly relationships can work, but this isn't how you treat someone in any relationship in my opinion. Also congrats on hitting 600k!! I love all your videos 😊

[@MG-ku2nv]

My ex boyfriend was exactly like this woman. People who cheat and then coerce their partners into “polyamory” are the worst. Watching this was honestly so triggering because of how much it reminded me of him, but also so validating to see 16leo tear this woman to shreds

[@inkedmomblu1510]

The second she said line dancing I said out loud “you’re right…I wouldn’t have guessed it!”

[@foxhero1337]

Seeing my wife get ready and look her best so she can leave and go on a date with another guy. Nah, this is how murder suicides begin.

[@Marz859]

That’s a little dramatic. You don’t own ya wife so it shouldn’t elicit those feelings..

[@sunnyday4055]

As long as they are in a relationship he has the right to demand monogamy lol

[@BigbuddhaBuddy]

@@Marz859lol you’re a cuck

[@austinblackburn8095]

​@@Marz859This is why modern day relationships don't work and while I'll probably never get married. You stop being you when you get married it is now a singular unit. Both sides have to sacrifice for the whole. That means both men and women have to give up parts of themselves for the relationship to work otherwise you may as well just be monogamous fuck buddies. Relationships are hard work and commitment you may not own that individual, but if they respected the relationship reasonable request from both sides is a given. That being said murder suicide is a bit far, but he didn't suggest you do it just that things like this is what pushes people over the line.

[@Chillikilli]

​@austinblackburn8095 you don't get to kill someone because they hurt your feelings. If someone cheats on you, you can always get a divorce. You don't own your partner.

[@Volonsky_]

Polyamory is founded upon honesty and trust, THIS IS NOT IT. It should not be used as an excuse to be manipulative or gaslighting someone you deem as a partner or person of interest. She's legitimately running him in the ground with red flags everywhere. I understand there's a lot of awful poly relationships experienced or in media but a few should not be judged by the whole. Everything comes with ups and downs but this lady right here brought whole building down.

[@Samionigaming]

So, does anyone ask if he can see other people? I wonder what she’d say if he went out looking for her opposite.

[@PrincessRomi1]

the mother is probably thinking "is it too late to get an abortion"

[@YargGlug]

Severely underrated youtube channel. You're absolutely hilarious, you offer intelligent perspectives, and you have a strong moral character. Plus, your videos are actually LONG. Many youtubers nowadays just give us bite sized content, whereas you offer a FEAST! 🦃 Your content is what I'm giving thanks for this Thanksgiving. Thanks, Leo. 🦃

[@ktp.]

🎯🎯🎯

[@BenjaminAaronStock]

Amen

[@lucybridle2375]

100% agree! was thinking similarly

[@deejax7413]

Woooord

[@rafaellewis4528]

YES!🎉

[@heathers7265]

How selfish and un-selfaware can that woman be. 🤦‍♀️ Eww. I hope her husband divorces her and finds much better.

[@damson9470]

so stupid bro. she made him believe he was the one controlling her while in fact she's the one controlling him by dating other men while staying in a relationship with him, even though she knows he doesn't like it. absolutely crazy behaviour.

[@UhaveN0idea]

this broke my heart for mike. this is not healthy polyamory or polyandry or whatever elisa wants to call it. BOTH partners need to actively want it and also know how to calmly handle “messy” feelings like jealousy, distrust, etc. leo u were spot on saying elisa has no empathy when she speaks about / to mike. rly hoping they’re both separately getting therapy and working towards having healthier interpersonal relationships overall.

[@CygmaSlag]

That seaweed bit honestly tells me everything I need to know about their dynamic. She walks the clear path while he has to deal with all the messy bits. It’s a small scale sure but it’s really reinforced by the clear lack of consideration she has for him in the rest of the show

[@Caddy911]

😂😂 If my boyfriend came home and said I cheated, not because I’m unhappy with you, but I just had a really intense connection with someone”….😂 ooooohkkkkkkaaaaayyyyy

[@dollyhood6549]

“&that connection was established in a line dance” 🕺 🕺 🕺🕺🕺🕺

[@Generik_]

She’s not avoiding any problem. She thinks there isn’t one. That’s the actual problem. It is so key to be able to supply your own happiness in life, know who you are, and be comfortable being alone. You can want someone and still be able to be single. That’s the only way you can make a good decision for your own emotional well being.

[@sunnyday4055]

Girl, she’s too average to be pulling any of this

[@artemisvenom2282]

The recurring Mike, Sully and Randall gag is the kind of humor I watch you for

[@nyx3983]

why he doesn't leave is beyond me. wouldn't tolerate any of that shit. she clearly doesn't have any respect for him. mike's mom is the realest one there.

[@i_amnell1543]

Poor Mike ,I feel so sorry for him to be in this situation,no one deserves this

[@NurseHarley299]

This just seems like if she finds a new guy who is the opposite of her current spouse and they have a better connection she'll just end up leaving Mike 😬 This is some sad shit to see

[@austinblackburn8095]

Nah she just wants the financial security of an engineer while she goes wild for bad boy men with bad finances.

[@SisypheanRoller]

Ayy Leo my boy I'm halfway in but wow, this Mike guy needs a male role model. She's walking all over him because she thinks he's a doormat.

[@asarishepard8171]

Hes also letting her. Someone with self respect would set boundaries, if she wants to disrespect them she can be alone.

[@austinblackburn8095]

To be fair the relationship was over the moment she cheated, and he would always be walked over the moment he stayed.

[@mossyfriends1911]

TLC has done so much damage to the public perception of polyamory and open relationships 😵‍💫

[@LaurensSecretAdmirer]

Yea, well polyamory and open relationships are for mentally ill people.

[@PsychoBunnies88]

I just had an awful panick attack and even though I never heard of this show, I knew you would calm me down Leo. I'm halway through the video and the number of times my eyes rolled out of my head hearing what Alisha.. Eliza... what's her name? has to say is staggering... It's not making my headache any better 😅 Thank you Leo for bringing the comfort when it's most needed♥ BTW, I love the long videos, the longer the better!

[@MaggieJaneSimpson]

are you alright now? drink some water and take a nap :*

[@maxinepreston7601]

Hi from the UK. I hope the panic attack has passed. Try to rest and relax, do some deep breathing. Take care. 🇬🇧

[@diandriasmith889]

Aww these comments are so kind 🥹 Hope you're okay! Also, "the longer the better"? That's what she said.

[@aleleeramos]

These comments ❤ Leo has created such a kind corner on the internet. Sending love to you all. Panic attacks are horrible, I’ve been having them a lot lately and honestly don’t know why. I hope you’re okay now. ❤️❤️

[@PsychoBunnies88]

Oh wow, thank you guys for the kind words, I very rarely leave comments and it warms my heart that there's been such a beautiful response for this one 💕 I still don't feel well but I know it'll pass, I'm trying to relax with my partner and our doggo 🐶 Sending hugs to everyone that needs one (and a special hug for our biggest baby, Leo 😁)

[@LombaxLover123]

Sounds like my first long distance relationship where he told me he loved another girl two weeks in, and we were silently forced into it until I had enough and told him to make a choice. Fun.

[@TheLoveMiku]

What Choice did he make?

[@Jinxi928]

Forced? Why didn't you break up?

[@LombaxLover123]

@@TheLoveMiku Obviously he chose her instead of me since apparently he had been in love with her for years, but didn't tell me.

[@LombaxLover123]

@@Jinxi928 We broke up six months later once I realised that this relationship brought me nothing but anxiety and misery. I'm better off single.

[@bLueberrySnatcheLpi3]

Ugh I couldn’t imagine having another husband. Mines goofy AF and has enough dad jokes for two husbands in one 😅

[@sarahreiser2406]

Leo - as an artist, I want to thank you for all the long videos you do. Not only is your commentary entertaining to listen to while I paint fine-scale beads, but the length of these videos help my sanity during long hours of working.

[@Mande1985]

Why in the world would she broadcast all this to both their families like she's Jada at the Red Table Talk and he's Will crying because of the "entanglement"? 😅

[@maxinepreston7601]

I'm afraid this is going to end badly. You can tell from his face he's not up for this and she is pushing him. I hope he gets what he wants not what she wants. 🇬🇧

[@noneofyobiznizz9516]

I could just imagine asking my husband of the past 33 years if I could go sleep with other men and trying to convince him that it was also "our" choice. He would say sure and then he would proceed to pack my stuff and throw it out the front door.

[@Those.who.stay.silent.consent]

Ahhhh my heart, that first guy really has zero self esteem and he thinks he hit the jackpot with that ugly ass square shaped fridge. He is handsome, educated, well spoken, seems so kind, gentle , is open to exchange with his partner, open to make compromises (in this case inadmissible compromises), has a serious job but doesn’t take himself too seriously.. He is such a freaking awesome catch, if only we could tell him. He deserves better on every damn level. I just wanna hug him, take him for ice cream and enumerate all his qualities to him, looking deep in his eyes, because he’s clearly unaware of them

[@jamiedee2409]

As a person who is polyamorous, I can safely say that this relationship will not last. They want different things from life. He accepted her wishes, because he wants her to stay, but you can clearly see that he doesn't really want this. Especially the kids question shows even more problems. A Polyamory relationship can be amazing - if everyone is on board, on the same page and everything is crystal clear. If one person has different views or desires, the relationship does not work! Mike will come to his senses some day, but right now he wants her so badly, he doesn't even think about himself.

[@SEOshogun]

What she wants is a divorce

[@Julia-we6xb]

You should cover seeking sister wives too its a trainwreck

[@queenneen13]

holy. shit. almost couldn't bring myself to finish this one. Mike's complete lack of self esteem and self worth is absolutely heartbreaking. my dude seems like a catch. this isn't a poly relationship. this is one horrible woman wanting to do whatever the fuck she wants and another person completely lying to himself that he's remotely okay with it. that's not how it works. that's not how any of this works. bonkers

[@anon3263]

If the relationship starts off monogamous and ends opened, it's doomed 💀

[@HikaruRain]

Having more than one spouse at the same time is actually polygamy and it is illegal in all states in the US.

[@ktp.]

💯🛑

[@crishuez]

He needs a lawyer. He could file for divorce and get some alimony.

[@austinblackburn8095]

​@@crishuezProbably not get alimony as he makes significantly more, but depending on the state he may not have to split his assets and pay alimony himself.

[@kjcile8334]

I think it just shows what people will do for their 15 min. of fame. It's not only that they're doing this but they're doing it for the whole world to see & it will forever be out there.

[@_Dark222Angel_]

💯 bring back shame!! lol

[@asarishepard8171]

Yeah have fun explaining this to grandma. We need shame back.

[@lorenstickler4482]

Yo why dont they call Sima Auntie? Lol

[@_Dark222Angel_]

I calculated the bio data and this relationship is doomed 😂

[@lorenstickler4482]

@@_Dark222Angel_ I'm deeeead lol

[@Jarethjr]

So me and my GF are poly- we have been together for over a year now and honestly it has been the most healthy relationship I have ever been in! She has been completely open and honest with everything from the second we even started talking. As at the beginning I was very nervous about polyamory as I had never really interacted with it before. But when I tell you this woman is the most loving woman I have ever meet I am not lying. She is a amazing gf to me and has always been there for me the second we started dating. What They are doing IS NOT POLY- is it just straight up a toxic as hell. Poly is all about communication and complete honesty. With not only yourself but with your emotions. It makes me so sad seeing poly being used as a excuse to be a bad partner and borderline abusive. As at least for me is has been such a beautiful thing. And has taught me how much love can really bring the best out in you.

[@Peasham]

I don't know if I'm poly myself, I'm certainly not in a poly relationship, but from every poly relationship I've observed, and I'm not sure myself how but I've observed a lot, the pro play seems to be actually having a relationship with like, everyone in the poly relationship lol. Your gf doesn't have another boyfriend, you have a gf and a boyfriend type beat.

[@Jarethjr]

@@Peasham a lot of people do that! But it can also work with one person in the relationship being poly and the other not. It can work but it’s a lot more of a struggle. Again the key to it will always be honesty and trust. Because if you don’t trust your BF/GF it will never work and that goes for any relationship

[@Persephone01]

Totally agree. Like it does work most of the time! Im actually writing about a poly relationship. This what they are doing is not poly, it sounds like she forced him into it. How does like date night work? With both of them or separate? Im curious to learn.

[@gmaerowed]

She specifically says that it's polyandry. Unless at some point later in the episode she says polyamory, it's def not the same thing. Polyamorous relationships seem to be much more safe and healthy and happy and they can communicate and actually share their feelings. This is obviously not that

[@Persephone01]

@@gmaerowed Ah ty! She says polyandry for women having multiple husbands, is there a male version of that? Cant he start dating other people?

[@OBaegloich3]

He isnt an ugly man, he makes good money as an engineer. If he worked on his confidence, he would see how much better he could than settling for someone who is clearly only worried about herself. Hope he finds his mangood again

[@Aurenj]

When she’s like “I just wanna meet someone the opposite of him someone one to match my energy”. No hear me out. Just a second. how about u make a friend. :0 mind blowing I know but we don’t need to have sex with ever freaking person that cross our path. Learn to make friends

[@Kimberly-xz1yi]

Ew. This woman is despicable. Just break up with him and find someone you actually want to be with.

[@thorisholawyer7478]

Sex is such a precious thing. The fact that she even wants to do it in their home is wild

[@sammaysam8953]

Hand on God my biggest trauma is my mother having a country music phase and I was forced into line dancing. However it's this a skill that might land me a husband now. Jfc

[@inkedmomblu1510]

Her mom is beautiful and seems smart. Even she knows that her daughter should just appreciate and honor her husband.

[@finklejinks]

Listen as a true blooded American, I can confirm we only meet our partners line dancing. TInder is called that because they your going to set the floor on fire from your line dancing.

[@austinblackburn8095]

Honestly tinder is ass might take up line dancing.

[@jeffcarmichael9393]

“Well I def plan on meeting some new weirdos this weekend, so if you don’t mind or you do, either way, just make sure to leave your credit card so I can buy the bar and the hotels.. love you”

[@i_amnell1543]

Poor mike ,I feel so sorry for him to be in this situation,no one deserves this

[@BrittanyC333]

What a hilarious surprise seeing Leo on this glorious Saturday night. Thank you to my favorite KZbinr! ❤❤❤

[@RiniAbroad]

"I feel like steering wheel's a part of driving" fucking sent me omg. Your videos are always funny but that hit me so hard.

[@HA-oi7nw]

Run Mike! RUN! There is someone that will treat you right.

[@eleng6926]

Woahhh another video! Thank you for your hard work! Happy holidays!

[@aliiasabyrzhanova]

Back go back videos? Leo is blessing us!

[@user-mf1kv4lk2m]

Mike is very handsome and caring and safe. She wants some hot bad boy type cuz she's bored and doesn't give a crap about her husband. So sad for Mike...he needs to leave and get therapy.

[@katelynlee8959]

Guess I'm staying up til 3am

[@cicilg]

Haha yesss! Lol

[@flightofthepizzas]

Scoot over. Alright, who brought the popcorn?

[@lazy2988]

Seems like his parents didn’t give him a lot of compliments and then she got over complimented

[@Flaulicower]

What lack of self esteem does to a mf. He thinks he won't find anyone better so he sticks with a woman who wants to do two things he's obviously uncomfortable with (slut around and not have kids together). That's not what a poly relationship is. I hope he finds happiness in life someday.

[@cicilg]

Polyamory works for a lot of people!! But this is NOT how it works. This is just sad. This guy is being walked all over.

[@sevenviii9]

Not a lot. Very few people.

[@mikebane2866]

Yeah, the research doesn’t support that polyamory is good for our developmental, social, child-raising, or our mental health. The flood of neurotransmitters that are released during an emotionally and/or sexual/physical bonding experience between one partner to another specifically performs a neurobiological function that develops into romantic attachment. When you repeatedly involve multiple other romantic/sexual partners, your mind enters into a dysfunctional state of confusion/mixed mental states, which many people are resilient to (which is why some people can engage in activities like orgies/swinging and still maintain a strong attachment with their partner), however, this is only to a point and many people have a low threshold in this regard. The more intense/frequent the affairs are, the more likely you’ll begin to exhibit signs of distress, unusual moodiness/behaviors, and the more it will take to heal these resulting dysfunctions. The people who are typically engaged in polyamorous sexual activity tend to fall on the hyper sexual end of the spectrum, often the result of unhealthy/traumatic early life sexual experiences (whether child sexual abuse, exposure and addiction to porn, or otherwise). Polyamory is theoretically non-maladaptive (could be considered “acceptable” to one’s general health) for a very small segment of the population. The popularity of polyamory is a byproduct of neoliberal capitalist expansion of the market into the realm of commodifying human relationships and experience. The psychological impact of divorce upon the children involved in the separation, particularly on the last 3 generations, has been proven to show that those children will tend to have distorted conceptions of romantic relationships which lead to poorer relationship quality and outcomes, more likely to divorce (including more than once), more likely to display hypersexuality and/or increased sexual aggression, and predispose them to developing mental/personality disorders more than kids who come from stable and together households. It is no coincidence that polyamory has become a niche industry within the growing transactionally-centered relational marketplace. Porn addiction is skyrocketing yet sex between young people is at an all time low. Does this not sound like a recipe for sexually frustrated and anxious young adults who haven’t had proper mirroring of what a healthy marital relationship looks like?

[@robcaboose510]

This happened to a friend of mine, after marriage the wife just decided hey let's open the relationship. He had the strength to call it all off before it could get anywhere near the cringe of this show but it's a crazy rough situation.

[@Leslee_Lane]

Mike’s mom looks like she is ready to jump over the table. 💀 46:26

[@ezbody]

Thanks for the warning 👍

[@machetesaint2355]

Maternal instincts , Elisa is causing harm towards Mike

[@jooloomcgoo]

Elisa’s mum sitting there with a big proud smile at the same time is so fucking odd. If my daughter was treating someone like this and laughing at someone else’s pain I would be horrified and ashamed. Her mum seems so happy?!? I guess that’s how punchable face Elisa got her fucked up morals.

[@rumblexstrips]

If mike was also dating I’d be more inclined to believe him

[@hollybug88]

I’m five minutes into the video but… Whoever edited this deserves a million gold stars, the memes and editing are so on point, so funny, and clean af, im guessing leo has an editor so, props to you editor

[@eggnogalcoholic]

13:37 Lord I hope we never stop meme-ing the shit out of this movie, it’s unironically a fantastic and beloved film but also has an unlimited amount of chaotic energy for us to capitalize on

[@Wowausernamenoway]

My mom and dad were poly. I watched my dad and his partners continue that after my mom's death. I was never monogamous until my now husband and I was so shocked that no, relationships can't usually work poly. No wonder my teen dating years were me looking not great. I had no other example, and I am so grateful and in debt to my husband for showing me the light. I could never go back.

[@MissMonkeyNinja]

Thank you for sharing this very unique insight

[@bekkes7923]

*insert thirst trap for Leo here*

[@antonydrossos5719]

They aren't fooling anyone, not even themselves. This will end disastrously.

[@XVIIProveidence]

I wonder what her reaction would be if he said the same thing to her.

[@Superlegofighter101]

I don't get why people don't embrace that they're selfish. I'm selfish, I want what I want. I want my wife to be mine, not ours.

[@SomebodySomewher]

Can't wait till you hit a million leo

[@rachel_ellingson]

I hope mike gets out of this. This is sad. Like most people on TLC, doesn’t seem like they should be in a relationship. People really need to be ok with being alone with themselves. Wishing mike the best

[@Alison-ku5ko]

Amusing when 7s think they are irresistible 11s. He needs to drop her cookie cutter ass.

[@RhianChambers]

The way she said “that was a conversation between you and me” how could he have not replied “well our marriage was between u and me, and it had lasted a lot longer than that conversation”

[@mikesmancave8833]

So she decided they have an open relationship but she decided that only she gets to see other people? Lol this poor guy needs to run.