WIFI SONIC

[@GimR]

Hey guys! I made a mistake. I recorded a bunch of matches tonight and got 4 frames of extra lag instead of the 5 frame minimum I said in the video. These matches felt really good, so it's probably the low end of lag people get. that means some of the graphics I made in the video were slightly off. Apologies, I haven't made a mistake like this before without catching it before uploading.

[@FelipeKana1]

Pretty sure your point is still standing, bro. Maybe we should ban sonic from online play?

[@FelipeKana1]

@@davidjones3571 much more difficult to ban a play style. A player may stall some matches and not others, or only sometimes, and stalling is not bad meta strategy by itself. Would we need a judge in every match, increasing lag? I think it's easier to ban one or a few fighters that take too much advantage of the bad online system Nintendo created.

[@FelipeKana1]

@@davidjones3571 hey, could you point me out to those articles? Feels like a good read for this Sunday

[@Galaxia_EX]

That’s fine, you pointed it out here. Honestly, it’s kinda interesting seeing the online meta get some analysis.

[@Galaxia_EX]

David Jones Yikes, I hope EVO will be offline. It’s...July 31st/August 1st so hopefully things will be back to normal(ish) by then.

[@GimR]

Sonic go fast

[@IceBlade070]

GimR's Lab yes

[@SaturnSnapple]

GimR's Lab bruh were tryin to watch The Box

[@bbqseitan7106]

It’s true Officer I saw the whole thing

[@spof7795]

Hehe fast blue thing go brrrrr

[@thefreddyofthecentury1685]

Oof

[@donovanmahan2901]

Short answer: 🅱️ Long answer: 🅱️ goes too fast for people to react.

[@theblackbasketball]

Honestly

[@shinjinator100]

Does 🅱️ stand for 🅱️onic?

[@theblackbasketball]

Artina 🅱️ stands for anything that 🅱️onic does 🅾️nline.

[@dominickrobinson332]

🅱️ stands for B button lol

[@shinjinator100]

@@dominickrobinson332 It definitely is 🅱️onic, thanks everyone!

[@JazzPikmin]

thank god you didnt discover sonic tech we would be dead if you did

[@jdintheplacetobe7412]

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[@Eman02kG]

-W_H_E_A_T- I wish he did

[@equinox3861]

There is no god.

[@Oz1455]

no he would be dead :D

[@equinox3861]

@RocketwayAv57 no there isnt

[@letsgobigmike8488]

"You gotta play as he's a megaman boss battle" that is actually the best way you could put it.

[@jdintheplacetobe7412]

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[@aluc5836]

JD InThePlaceToBe Wtf is your problem

[@letsgobigmike8488]

@@jdintheplacetobe7412 get a life nerd

[@dddmemaybe]

ikr, chad scientisteroo.

[@letsgobigmike8488]

@jtrdragonite very interesting

[@yarielrobles9003]

Gimr: 5 frames of input lag Ultimate online: are you kidding me that's insultingly low

[@999Plasma]

those are rookie numbers

[@cameronbartlett856]

Brawl online: You mean 60 frames of input lag is not normal?

[@yarielrobles9003]

@@cameronbartlett856 depends, per second? no, per minute? yes

[@andrewprahst2529]

Just stop playing against people who live on the other side of the planet

[@yarielrobles9003]

@@andrewprahst2529 If you've seen the tournaments you've probably seen how two people with wired connections in the us still get loading screens mid match

[@bigboybunter3417]

5:00 GimR, my man...that Homing Attack was charged in front of you in real life. Can't blame input delay on that one.

[@GimR]

😂

[@user-fu7no1xu5b]

After he got hit by it he told me that his controller was broken and opponent just got lucky

[@brain_tonic]

Can't compensate for brain lag unfortunately.

[@dddmemaybe]

this was modded ultimate. did you see how gimr stayed in hitlag for like 40 frames after sonic kept moving? hax also gimr's staggered animation is great for escaping short range rapid jabs. look at that pull away from the mic.

[@hadesthegod9181]

I don't think GimR has a shield

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

Video in a nutshell: Sonic didn’t get faster with lag. Everyone else got slower.

[@DarkHyperSonic7]

Sonic Speed!

[@CallmeKeyiii]

*Y O U ‘ R E T O O S L O W ! ! !*

[@f.o.8547]

Chaos Control

[@justswift5369]

hes too fast

[@ducestat06savage99]

@@justswift5369 has really not

[@gengarisnotinsmash...]

But everyone knows that get up attack ignores all input delay, making that the most effective counter to sonic.

[@batatino8805]

Because of input delay is unreacteable

[@mazder3594]

and as such, the Get-Up attack remain undefeated

[@floofuwu8774]

Honestly get up attack is the only way to get up safely besides rolling. Jumping or neutral get up will get you clapped online if your opponent has more than one braincell.

[@faded9581]

Floof uwu Bro getup attack gets punished the harder since its telegraphed timing means it can be parried into a smash attack punish. When fighting a good player, you have to mixup all options, including neutral and jump.

[@ahmadkazan7994]

And sonic surprisingly has a quite fast get up attack,of course IN A BALL.

[@kfoley275]

Fighting Sonic online is like fighting Mike Tyson on the NES Classic. You can mentally react to some of his moves, but the input delay won't let you ACTUALLY react to what he's doing.

[@edwinvargas7969]

That’s the crux of a theory I came up with. The reason players like kola, best ness and sonix win these tournaments is because they developed reactions to online play vs top players (offline) who are used to playing offline for 8 hours a day lol

[@Vher_]

just go to mcdonald's everything is reactable if the match is a really long powerpoint

[@cuno6118]

Vher just make it a turn based game

[@dddmemaybe]

this is the online equivalent of looking at your opponent's controller to read their DI.

[@irok1]

SSBU doesn't allow for online under a certain threshold Figured out from personal experience

[@miko-mn9bg]

Irok 121 there’s ways to circumvent that

[@muhammadnour283]

@@miko-mn9bg how... asking for a friend

[@Gonsoi]

I really liked the red and blue zones, really intuitive and easy to understand, you could use it for offline training too

[@GimR]

thx!

[@nonabacon]

That moment when you realize that when Sonic was talking about WIFI in Reck it Ralph... Yeah, he knew exactly what he was talking about...

[@ArylBarrel]

OH MY GOSH...

[@ahmadkazan7994]

It is all coming together. He also warned us about a top player thingy.

[@apoeclipse]

Gg on your 100k subs! Glad you're getting more popular!

[@GimR]

Ty!

[@temp6t]

Having just played as a WiFi Sonic in The Box and losing, I can confirm everything in this video as well

[@temp6t]

@Random Person the sonic goons are coming after us man :[

[@metalmagerin3]

Did I just watch an entire video to tell me 'I'm too slow"?

[@dddmemaybe]

sonic talking about ultimate online. ;)

[@briangeer1024]

Yes. Yes, you did. In fact, that phrase perfectly describes Sonics playstyle.

[@JohnGuyJohn]

I believe you did, Bob.

[@impact2933]

Yo can we actually get an unreactable burst video for all characters I’m so interested to see how effects everything. Like Inkling roller for example.

[@PotentialThall]

Oh god

[@beruga]

This is a great idea. While Sonic's homing attack is definitely annoying, other characters have actual kill options which are similarly un-reactable. I'd like to see some of Bowser, GnW, and Cloud's moves analyzed in this way.

[@Zoronii]

If you wanna lab it yourself you can just do frame-by-frame advance in training mode. Just count 18 frames from the move's start-up. The next 5 frames are reactable offline but unreactable online.

[@timhiltz6323]

Game and watch is perfect counter to fight Sonic.

[@ascaredmilipede7971]

It affects mostly projektiles and burst attacks (ie dash attacks)

[@ZX_STH]

This aged like milk, just as I said it would. You can see it charging, you don't just react to the post-release, you react to the whole thing. Wifi Sonic is a myth and always has been.

[@TheFantasticWarrior]

Should we ban lan internet so we play at 10 frames per second making it reactable

[@IAm-zo1bo]

What does lan even do i still don't know

[@hatsunemiku8007]

@@IAm-zo1bo it makes the game laggy dont do lan wifi is better bro

[@Snip8494]

@@hatsunemiku8007 nah, wifi too laggy, use a hotspot

[@ghanaria7996]

I don’t get it. Is the joke about making games even more laggy so everyone can react to what sonic is doing? Therefore lan

[@Shanx317]

@@ghanaria7996 Yes. The joke is that if the game is slowed down you can react.

[@Yukiloop]

I just fought 2 wifi sonics on a tourney. Didn't enjoy it.

[@jdintheplacetobe7412]

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[@parliament1232]

Wha-

[@IAm-zo1bo]

@@parliament1232 can you not

[@parliament1232]

@@IAm-zo1bo ???

[@mrkraffbs9583]

Just parry lmao

[@Shubb42]

So basically, #FixUltimateOnline.

[@AdamSmasherReal]

Even if the online was better that same would still apply. There will always be some latency online

[@Shubb42]

@@AdamSmasherReal Correct. The way a game feels when playing it locally could never be fully replicated in an online setting.

[@orb3796]

@@Shubb42 the difference is, smash ultimate's online has no reason to be this ignorant when melee's is so good. How come a billion dollar corporations can't keep up with it's own fans???

[@chrisnguyen2316]

Orbit 01 japan refuses to catch up with the times, especially Nintendo. Online with fighting games is always inferior to offline anyways

[@zwartesoep2010]

@@chrisnguyen2316 Unless you're playing western developed fighting games like MK, KI en Skull girls. Fighting games can have functioning online that actually works decently well. It's just that Japanese FG devs have their head so far up their arse that they refuse to incorporate western made tools because "iN JaPaN iT wOrKs JuSt FiNe". I just hope the games don't need a franchise killing wake up slap for them to understand how important online is, but hey, evo is coming up so we'll see.....

[@NotFrogBox]

So in neutral, Sonic controls the match and can just do endless and unreactable mix ups So in advantage, Sonic controls the match and can do endless and unreactable mix ups So in disadvantage, Sonic controls the match and can do endless and unreactable mix ups Good grief

[@DestinyFY]

That sounds fun

[@Azzie-z3b]

Yare yare daze

[@mitrimind1027]

Sounds toxic.

[@ahmadkazan7994]

That's offline.Online it is even more buffed.

[@ahmadkazan7994]

@@mitrimind1027 sounds like something sonic would do.

[@MailmanSSB]

GimR finally going over and his special mechanic in the top right corner of the screen

[@jdintheplacetobe7412]

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[@theblackbasketball]

JD InThePlaceToBe Why you posting the same reply on almost every comment?

[@jdintheplacetobe7412]

@@theblackbasketball Just for me, man. Nothing for you to worry

[@theblackbasketball]

JD InThePlaceToBe Gotchu

[@80me16]

he’s broken cause he’s fast and furious

[@Dr_Mel]

As someone who only plays this game online in any competitive sense, all this insight into how online buffs certain things is making me feel a lot better about my play.

[@koelee]

*Sonic being hated for being too fast* _The problem of being faster than light is that you can only live in darkness_

[@theminecraft2516]

Except he is not only faster than light he can walk too, and where is this quote from I cannot escape it

[@koelee]

@@theminecraft2516 try Google lmao

[@luiztomikawa]

3:54 "So basically Sonic FORCES" unintentional puns are tight!

[@ArylBarrel]

XD

[@smashyu545]

Imagine, just having just fewer frames of Ultimate's insane input delay and Sonic would be nerfed quite a bit online.

[@sangan3202]

or if they removed the stupid buffer al together

[@Molotom]

@@sangan3202 At least give us an option to turn off most of the buffering.

[@tobyvision]

@@Molotom If they implemented an adjustable input buffer and a ping limit in your preferred rules, the game would improve immensely. And this would be SO EASY.

[@Molotom]

tobyvision As much as I would love that, I don’t see it happening with Nintendo’s ineptitude regarding most things online

[@mr.kevin1209]

My, that's a pretty snazzy performance there

[@ricebeans8960]

Sonic 06 was cool in some ways.

[@zamza989]

HAha! HA! O N E !

[@zeldrio6079]

No Copyright Law in the universe is gonna stop me!

[@ManMalboro]

Thank you! I wanted to see this after seeing Leo look like he was just standing around getting hit. Needed data.

[@WiiGi]

So basically, Sonic is so fast that he breaks the Wi-Fi Barrier and he's immune to lag, makes sense.

[@Neloch4]

Online sonic exemplifies everything i hate about playing smash with smash bros players.

[@dagingerbreadman70]

People complaining about WiFi sonic, just get up attack lmao...

[@johnkramer2144]

Da GingerBreadMan just hit him lol

[@FriezaSagaWallet]

John Kramer just win lol

[@jdintheplacetobe7412]

Why :/

[@tetsushinjou6456]

If you win, you won't lose.

[@felixdaniels37]

Banjo confirmed Sonic counter.

[@WesleyFiles]

Biggest revelation of this video? Someone labbed out the latency of Ultimate online, and shared it with the wider public! Best data point I've heard since people started complaining about Ultimate online.

[@Sky-ur1wk]

Rip a good game meta for the foreseeable future

[@scarffoxandfriends9401]

At least there's a video that properly explain this. I also see people saying this wouldn't be if Ultimate had the best Online possible, but even with the best rollback online there's additional input latency. So even in the best case scenario where Nintendo implements the best online available for fighting games right now, Sonic will still be buffed by Online being Online.

[@UltimateTS64]

3:55 ha he said "Sonic Forces" pun entirely intended 😂

[@dantes.7715]

This game is killing i childhood favorite of mine

[@orb3796]

@Mai Nyigguh no

[@deangel9128]

@@orb3796 I think, yes

[@esqimo6647]

Sonic every three seconds: ITS SPHERICAL

[@theslomoguy5664]

Ironic how the fastest character in the game has the longest matches most of the time.

[@sunshinex2012]

Hes pretty weak

[@thelookingcat]

@@sunshinex2012 not with today's buff

[@ahmadkazan7994]

No,his match are the fastest. He just slows time with his speed.

[@Oz1455]

I fought one Sonic at a wifi tournament as Byleth and I surprisingly enjoyed it. Worth noting he was aggressive as hell.

[@GARYtheCANNIBAL]

New Sonic tech: when you're getting ready to pick Sonic on wifi, instead take your Switch out of the dock and snap it in half

[@jdintheplacetobe7412]

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[@coolersspaceship7964]

GARYtheCANNIBAL 😭😭

[@SmokePudding]

guys this one really works please try it out

[@ahmadkazan7994]

New tech:not all people play a character online because he is good.

[@funkwolf]

The most amazing thing to me is that its taken all this time for people to start talking about this. There's tons of stupid moves in this game, the online system and the buffer combined kinda break the game.

[@tobyvision]

And the tragically weak defense options.

[@zachscott5105]

GimR explains things in such a concise and digestible way, it’s fantastic

[@coolernow7948]

This is also the same reason why heavies are so much better online. You can't punish somebody for throwing out a slow move if you can't react.

[@acekun6493]

its the opposite tbh Zoners are way better online due to the buff of projectiles online, zoners typicially hardcounter heavies, thus heavies dont get better online

[@n.willy4864]

Ace Kun agreed zoners get the biggest buff online, also the inability to parry consistently buffs them even more

[@mickle_ze_pickle9480]

Isn’t this Dr. Eggman reviewing Sonic?

[@JLeaf337]

ty gims for supporting and validating my unbridled hate of online smash

[@pokmonfan1236]

Sonic "gotta go fast" Sonix "gotta go slow"

[@jj6148]

Ah yes! The art of camping/sonic

[@torterrad5429]

I appreciate you actually breaking it down rather than sonic op on WiFi cos he fast

[@vividlantern8854]

Because the online sucks. Don't "git gud" me.

[@jdintheplacetobe7412]

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[@tinyt.w.i.m7291]

JD InThePlaceToBe bro chasing mad clout

[@ZanKronKa]

git gud kid.

[@jdintheplacetobe7412]

@@tinyt.w.i.m7291 Bruv come on

[@jdintheplacetobe7412]

@Mai Nyigguh .Es ändert sich sehr, Kumpel

[@ghost245353]

I guess you could say... *Puts on sunglasses* "You're too slow!"

[@bbqseitan7106]

Sonic on WiFi is basically a gaming exploit He has no lag basically cuz he’s so fast Everyone has extra lag Playing Sonic on WiFi is like playing with a lag switch

[@SeriousStriker]

So basically he's ｢KING CRIMSON｣

[@Blittsplitt5]

Nice username

[@ahmadkazan7994]

@@SeriousStriker actually. His ability is called "time break" which totally stops time(unlike slowing it in game) So it is "the world"

[@jakejta6157]

Great vid. Glad to see u back

[@gamemastertom]

the one thing that has helped me a lot against wi-fi Sonic (even thought i haven't seen that many) is G&W's N-Air

[@LegendaryMythril]

If you have a disjointed hitbox you can preemptively throw as a shield, the match up becomes immensely more manageable. That’s why having projectiles is so good against him

[@Endershock1678]

I beat Online Sonic by doing heavy bait and punish options while playing defensively... Which means I spam nair as Joker. Hey, it may be lame, but that Sonic has been spin dash camping my for five minutes, he isn't playing the game and neither am I.

[@LegendaryMythril]

@Random Person snake's zoning game doesn't really work on sonic because nades just hit the opponent without any hitstun, so you can't shut down his approach like you can with, say, a link boomerang or a samus bomb

[@dddmemaybe]

mash upsmash on on Bowser and eat the percent like the fat lad you are. this will scare him off of using spam moves.

[@KitNeedsCoffee]

Noooo, you can't just play a toxic character that is busted in the current format & doesn't need skill! Sonix: *haha Blue Ball go brrr*

[@KitNeedsCoffee]

Noooo, I can't find things other people dislike as funny! *haha Comment Keyboard go clack clack*

[@KitNeedsCoffee]

@Random Person I didn't tho? Someone else genuinely found that funny too lol. That's weird given it was a dumb comment xD

[@Eiji475]

Congrats on 100k Gimr!!!

[@GimR]

Thank you!

[@carthagegaming5545]

Krebs is legit a legend for starting all this off lol

[@itsCrust]

this is a very, very good video. thanks gimr

[@barbarictearemedy]

PLEASE DO A VIDEO SERIES ON WHICH CHARACTERS ARE GOOD/BAD ON WIFI. Can’t think of a better person to display and help people understand which characters do better on wifi and explain precisely why that is. It would mean a lot for the whole community

[@icarlygod]

Wait was the joke at the end that you can't react to homing attack online and that GimR dodging it super late is a joke that ultimate has way too many frames of input delay plus ultimate online being stupid with a minimum 5 frames of input delay plus the 12 frames because of a player's reaction time?

[@GimR]

Yes

[@riverboulay1488]

I was really hoping he'd respond with "no" 😂

[@funkwater8759]

Gimr... Thank you for this because now the people who say "online delay doesn't matter, just get used to it" have actual proof that it does matter a lot

[@Random1567]

This is why I play so much worse online. Constantly having to guess in many situations where I could otherwise just react to it. Sonic is just adding to an already established problem. Burst options in general are a pain online.

[@marryrobert9590]

Which character do you play as

[@hanino6453]

Even so , congrats to Sonix for winning . Even though online sucks and the wins or whatever don’t matter, he still managed to win so good for him.

[@tommil_ssb3165]

Amazing video GimR! Glad your back but remember to take as much time off that u need

[@dubudub876]

this be why i never take online seriously anymore

[@Magic0YT]

amazing video, simple and explains with facts why people dont like sonic as much as other characters when it comes to online

[@cushypancakes]

The hero we wanted and the hero we needed.

[@fissilewhistle]

I don’t know how Sonic players sleep at night.

[@tobyvision]

Fair play is not a universal concept, in fact it is pretty rare. There are entire cultures that do not have any such concept. There are in fact cultures that praise individuals who abuse as far as possible any unfair advantage, even to their own detriment. It was a wild moment for me when I learned this.

[@curtisbrown547]

ever since smult came out I've been telling people the input delay is to much... now ya'll finally see it..

[@christtonmash1385]

Wow. I was completely unaware of this since I don't normally play online. I guess this means I've gone from maining the character that everyone hates to the character that everyone despises.

[@lizardhero]

YO PogChamp DID PogChamp HE PogChamp JUST PogChamp SPINDASH? PogChamp

[@reina.tg06]

HE Poggers DID Poggers! HE Poggers REALLY Poggers DID Poggers THOUGH!

[@captanblue]

He basically became the Metaknight of Brawl or Bayo of Sm4sh. The entire meta now revolves around how well you can deal with him. That's just wrong.

[@kismet4918]

5:00 Dang the hitstun on that tho

[@PrimeFlash93]

0:46 "This is part of why being under Palutena is so scary." Proceeds to show how dangerous it is to have Palutena under you. Come on guy.

[@GimR]

oops

[@Rachano]

Close enough

[@sir_smilesalot7589]

Gimr: "Sonic is mathematically incredibly frustrating to play and has an unfair advantage in most situations online" Salem: "Get good bitch lol"

[@johnmarkson1990]

if a sonic loses online its because they are bad at smash. even the wifi warriors lose to sonic in tournaments.

[@SuperDS6424]

think this vid should be brought up in every argument for better netcode. it just makes sense

[@jsilva4706]

DID HE JUST SPIN DASH

[@yordvandamme]

This is why I get so mad at people saying "It's only 5 frames of extra delay"

[@yokuutsu9097]

Unreactable Burst is a awesome attack name.

[@nicklong7442]

This is the very reason Goblin claims Roy is the worst Online character -- his play style completely revolves around reacting to your opponents. Crazy because Kola is making big moves...

[@braydoncameron8122]

GimR coming out with another banger.

[@ShirakoriMio]

I was about to type something toxic like "ban sonic and also any player who has ever been seen playing sonic and also send them a letter telling them that they're carried and that they should feel bad" but then I remembered that get up attack just beats spindash outright. Love u GimR im sorry :'D

[@thescuttlebug9936]

Sonix isn’t gonna have results once we’re back offline LMAO

[@MeesterTweester]

The Scuttlebug He mainly did WiFi beforehand I thought

[@BlitzzSolar]

He did, unfortunately he's stuck in DR and can only travel every now and then

[@nicksgamingchannel]

He already places top 64 in every major/supermajor he's been in offline. What do you mean?

[@spreadwuvokay]

@@nicksgamingchannel So what your saying is he's not going to have the same results once we're offline again. Top 64 is a far cry from winning.

[@iamseph]

Sonic would make me rage back when i used to play ultimate. I stopped because of the online. Id much rather play melee or other fighting games with good online, whereas if the online for ultimate were good, id still be playing it.

[@notswush]

why is ultimate wifi like this. this is hell.

[@ahmadkazan7994]

Not only ultimate,switch itself suffers from weak online support.

[@ShannonBlake444]

Oh snap! It's the guy who does the hidden smash tech stuff! I gotta subscribeee Edit: That outro is too awesome 😂😂

[@outer2756]

faster then his own bandwidth

[@DemX_HaX]

As a sonic main im happy that this video came out bc now i know exactly how to abuse him online.

[@timg1454]

it's not difficult,just spindash

[@Shing_]

W

[@PurpleOJ]

W

[@_dtez_8539]

I never knew Matthew Santoro played smash

[@shinjinator100]

I love your content more than my own life

[@GimR]

Nah don't say that. Your life is precious.

[@nexalord4059]

Player: puts Sonic in ball move Another player: what ball attack comes?

[@SBMBMPSPPS69]

Sonic is so fast that when everyone lags he's still fast

[@Darksilver740]

I'm more of a Melee player and haven't faced many Sonics. But the clip at 3:55 made me see why...

[@Ernireg3]

Bueeeno mi locrio... GG durísimo. #LaCapitalEsUnaPocilga #LaMejorYegua

[@SplashEazy]

Start an unreactable series for other smash characters and I'll love you forever!

[@MontageHustle]

As much as I love Sonic...Ban him, its just not competitive interactions.

[@ahmadkazan7994]

Why ban sonic and not young link or 60% of grab of 70 percent of dash attack?

[@Seshokii]

Gotta love G&W upB out of shield. So good against spin dashing sonics.

[@ahmadkazan217]

Spindash is -1 on shield.

[@Deoxys_Used_Mimic]

Gotta go fast, man. Imagine watching a video at 1.5x speed while your friend watches it normally. That’s Sonic. He’s not running faster, he’s *living faster.*

[@gogogadgetrectalpunch]

Sonic doesn’t just ruin his own games, he ruins any game he’s in

[@ahmadkazan7994]

"His own games" Like what?Are you gonna lecture me over "REMEMBER WHEN SONIC KISSED A PRINCESS" fuck?

[@Jr-yb8lg]

Huh? In my opinion brawl was the best smash.

[@kirjian]

What we need is more Prediction-Confirmation