Will Smith VS Tupac: Jada's True Feelings REVEALED! Body Language Analyst Reacts.

[@robinwildheart5321]

I've had the lousy experience of visiting someone at Riker's. It's hard to tell if the unpleasantness she's expressing has to do with visiting someone you love in lockup, or the incredibly dehumanizing process that happens first. They treat visitors like criminals. It isn't surprising to me she wants to protect herself from those thoughts.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Wow. Thank you for sharing this. It really helps understand that moment of complete abandonment and defensiveness. It could be a combination of how she was treated and how she saw a friend get treated.

[@PippyPan]

She's a liar. He was only there for 30 days and she was NOT there.

[@robinwildheart5321]

@@PippyPan What you're saying may be true, but there was something about her body language in that moment that I relate to. That feeling of defensiveness felt real. But now I don't know what to believe. She may be acting. I have no way of knowing for sure.

[@debbylou5729]

Yeah, she’s a real delicate flower. Poor thing

[@thelostviking9998]

Yeah except she is lying and the timelines don’t add up. While Tupac was in Rikers she was just starting to date Will and Tupac was engaged. His girl literally moved to be closer and actually was a signed in visitor every day he was in there. That was proven. Jaida is a compulsive liar and she is trying to use Tupac’s name to give her cred.

[@Emicasi]

When Jada speaks about Tupac having charisma and courage, she says “It’s not a lot of people that have that kind of charisma and courage to just come up on me…” so she’s complementing herself as well as him, by basically saying she was so beautiful, intimidating or unattainable (or whatever it is she thinks of herself) that it took courage for him to even approach her. She may truly idolize Tupac in her memories but she also idolizes herself.

[@ezmereldagerard6999]

Jada Pickett Smith and Amber Heard & Megan Markle are all narcissists

[@An_Drea_Calling]

Yes, you are so spot on!

[@livinglife2436]

Very good observation. It only confirms what we always knew. Narcism at its raw form, selfishness

[@ednanieves8572]

It’s all about herself.

[@ezmereldagerard6999]

@@ednanieves8572 So true !

[@leebauer1614]

So, the problem I have is this: When you are married to someone and constantly bring up an old, dead love, it never allows your partner to feel secure in the relationship. That is controlling , abusive, and unfair to one's partner.

[@Krikket-hm6pz]

That... THAT, right there.

[@jessmax5006]

The situation that she has created is like the movie Rebecca were the wife live her marriage as constant torment competing with the“supposedly” marvelous and perfect first dead wife. It’s horrible and dynamite self-steam to the bone. Just extremely narcissist. Jada should have move on already enough is enough.

[@richardvale214]

You got that right. Great insight.

[@chunt241]

I definitely agree she played will an she acts like she don't see it, let me let you if she gets another guy he gonna be the one to put his foot down an get that respect he deserves

[@firelady118]

Yes!! 💯💯💯 My Boyfriend passed in 2020, i took the time to grieve & heal. I'm now engaged to a wonderful, amazing man! I don't bring him up all the time, I used too when I was still grieving but I always made sure my fiancé knows I love him & am in love with him. However after you've healed for the most part you shouldn't be bringing all that up constantly, period. 🤦🏼‍♀️ 🤦🏼‍♀️ 🤦🏼‍♀️ I'm of the opinion she's a grifter & Will should have divorced her waay before now

[@hlu777]

I feel like the other aspect of Tupac is that she's placed him on this huge golden pedestal of perfection, which isn't uncommon, & because he died young, suddenly & unexpectedly he never had a chance to "fall from grace" in her eyes. He didn't live long enough to hurt her, break her heart, or disappoint her. As time goes on, the more we forget any of the "bad stuff" and the more perfect the deceased person on the pedestal becomes. No one can possibly compete with Golden Pedestal Tupac. All others will pale in comparison because he can, quite literally, do no wrong. I'm not saying I blame her. It's very common. Only that, that might also explain why she's SO expressive, mind blown & enamored with him, but less so Will. If roles were reversed, no doubt Will would have been Golden Pedestal Man. It's just an unhealthy expectation that all living men will fall short of in comparison. I'm not saying that's necessarily what she's doing, just that it might explain why she's still so enamored with him & their relationship, whereas Will clearly pales in comparison.

[@ciggytwiggy]

Exactly. It was a short relationship.

[@patriciatravers8546]

This is such a good point. We tend to hold on to "what might have been" and sometimes that becomes the reality. In her mind they may have had a future. We'll never know.

[@MenelmacarGR]

That's right "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain".

[@timea5363]

​@@MenelmacarGRsuch a good quote!

[@lulula2017]

They were not in speaking terms when he died. And she was not that meaningful to him, allegedly. She is milking the memory of a dead man and humiliating his husband while at it.

[@NinStardust]

Has anyone actually read WILL’s book? Because even he says that Jada wasn’t interested in him to begin with and it comes across like she never was. (And still isn’t IMO) The way Will puts it makes it sound like Jada was contemptuous and derogatory towards him when they first met and he talks about other things that have happened throughout their relationship that reiterate that. Will was the one pursuing Jada. She never wanted him. In my opinion, Jada started dating Will to try to make Tupac jealous and after he died she took advantage of Will’s infatuation and has been using him ever since. She doesn’t love him. She loves what he provides for her and she knows she’ll never do any better.

[@ezmereldagerard6999]

I totally agree Jada talks about Tupac to make Will Smith jealous and to take him down a few pegs

[@RayneyKayLa]

Ding Ding Ding !!!

[@mariejae]

Yes! Will knows she can never be happy even though he's tried. He attained her but because she settled. He's stuck, since there was no pre-nup.

[@ezmereldagerard6999]

@mariejae Tupac and Jada had a follow out and were not in communication for 2 years. At the time of Tupac brutal murder their was no communication between them. Based on multiple interviews from people close to Tupac.

[@Thegazelle1000]

Well the fact that she said that she was crying during the wedding the wedding’s day says a lot. She was never in love with him and Will knew it from the beginning. But like most men do, he thought that “she will fall in love with me at the end”.

[@HeatherSRealEstate]

So she and Tupac weren’t ever physically intimate but he was going to ask her to marry him?!? I do not buy that for a second 🙄🙄🙄

[@lc-jo6lf]

Exactly, this woman is a pathological liar. The state of New York records indicate that Tupac had been transferred to another state to complete prison sentence when the supposed "marriage proposal" was occurring. Timeliness do not corroborate her story

[@mojadah10]

A man (facing jail time) wouldn't propose to a woman he has a tight bond with unless they'd been physically intimate already?

[@someoneyoudontknow7705]

@@mojadah10​​⁠Why get married if he might go to jail? If he truly loved her he wouldn’t tie her down if he was going to jail. And if he was seriously interested in her he would’ve already tried to get in bed with her. He obviously didn’t see her that way.

[@mole2026]

If Tupac wanted Jada like that, it would have happened. She definitely lying. Tupac had his choice of woman, Madonna wanted him, he turned her down and the letter was recently bought at auction.

[@PowerGurhl]

That’s possible but the time frame is odd she always says they were just friends so I’m always confused

[@marydodsonmt]

The moment in the interview that stuck out for me was when Jada was talking about Will and described him as "joyful" ... with a perfectly neutral expression. If I were talking about someone I loved and described that person as joyful, I think that I would smile unconsciously and automatically because thinking about their joy would give me joy. Now, I'm not going to sit here and speculate about what her lack of reaction means but I will say that, subjectively, I find it chilling.

[@DK-Coffee]

She may be unable to feel real joy at this point.

[@rybpo7]

Yes. My first thought was to add “So I had to kill that joy”

[@andrea-rq1fe]

My thought at this was that he “was” joyful but not any more. Which is quite sad really

[@DK-Coffee]

@@andrea-rq1fe there are some who have dealt with them both in real life who state his hyper friendly image ppl have is just facade.

[@AJ-ps2bw]

My thoughts too!!

[@CatsInaCradle]

How can a person ever live in the present when they're so hung up on the past? I'm so tired of hearing her talk about her amazing love affair with Tupak. The man has been gone 27 years and it seems like she uses him as a model for every other relationship after that to live up to. It just boggles my mind.

[@ThriveCollective1188]

Agreed! He was 25 when he was killed. Yes he made a memorable mark, spoke some words of wisdom for his relatively young age but the idolising of him is a little grandiose. Jada is stuck in the stories of her life with a dead man instead of living present and aware of the loyalty she hardly deserves from her partner

[@katja6332]

And we have zero clue how 2Pac felt about her 😂 he had an affair with Madonna as well 😊

[@chuckm1961]

What does “hung up” mean and what is your evidence that she is “hung up” on Tupac? She’s a human being, who was deeply affected by someone. Your comments are incredibly revealing about yourself, and appeared to say nothing at all about Jada.

[@redfo3009]

She’s only saying these lies because she’s so desperate to be relevant is some way or another. She is using everyones respect amd admiration for Tupac and trying to bi proxi stealing some of that for herself somehow.. He also had other girlfriends and at the same time she said he asked her to marry him. Also men in jail often say stuff like that 😂

[@daCubanaqt]

To be honest, people get hung up on other people all the time. It isn’t unusual, but does she have to broadcast it to the world? Does she have to embarrass the man she married, build a life with for 20 something years, and has children with? It’s really messed up. Edit: Watching the end of the video, this woman is a hypocrite. She’s talking about appreciating loved ones, where is her appreciation of Will? I guess I have to read to book to find out more about that subject 😂

[@mychannelabcz]

VERY IMPORTANT NOTE for this analysis: For context, that picture that brought her to tears wasn't JUST about Tupac, who passed shortly after that pic. The other woman in the photo, her friend Maxine, took her own life shortly after as well. So seeing that photo and remembering that time is probably VERY real for her (which Spidey expertly pointed out). Then you add not being on good terms when Pac passed, there's a lot to process. Photos can like time travel...thinking about it is one thing but seeing the picture is a lot to handle.

[@katharineshade9550]

Thank you for that additional context, it helps with understanding what’s happening here.

[@cheriereuther7037]

YES I could not hear all the people were.

[@dantesos7564]

Here's the thing about mental illness... We dont filter information the same way as the average brain and I have this growing sense that JPS stayed stuck in her teenager self and has progressively idealized her relationship with TS to the point that she's made it this fantasy which only grows in embellishments the more she retells her story. At the same time, she never skips a beat in making sure everyone knows that WS is not her ideal partner... She wanted the gangster, street smarts, charismatic, larger than life personality that was TS. She wanted to be written into his legacy and because she didn't accomplish it during HIS LIFE she's attempting to rewrite the story AFTER DEATH because the poor man cannot defend himself. Im also surprised that Tupac doesnt have friends or family from that era or even other women that could maybe shed more light into their true friendship. We already know JPS is a pathological liar... But it would be delicious if someone came out with receipts to put that woman in her place once and for all.

[@sandyjamison5929]

When TS passed away, he was engaged to another woman. It amazes me how JP seems to ignore this. T was in love with another woman. The way she goes on & on about him, breaks my heart for Will. He's been in the shadow of a ghost for 20+ years. He didn't deserve that, imo. He's a wonderfully successful, self-made man with a good heart. I can't stand how she has to rip him down, all because he isn't "gangster." I really hope he gets away from her ❤ Take care!

[@RhetoricalMuse]

In 'street language', she is called an 'alpha widow'.

[@Tjandamurra]

Well said

[@afroborilafemme]

Yes! I million times this. Came to say pretty much the same thing. But also, there are people that have spoken out against her claims, but I don’t think anyone cares enough to make as much noise about it as she has. However, if you look back at any clips of Tupac talking about Jada, he described her as like a little sister. There’s no doubt they were close, but not the way she would have liked. But like you said, it’s because he’s not here to defend himself that she can continue going HAM on this fantasy.

[@angela67890]

Woow. You explained it amazingly. Specially the part “she is stuck in her teenage years”. No offence but I’ve seen that in many Middle Age women. What makes jada’s one so gross is that she is wealthy and has a man who loves her. I’m starting to believe she’s is just self-centred.

[@Kwistoweeish]

Respect for you as a behavioral analyst and as a person grows with every video! Fantastic analysis.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Thank you so much ❤️

[@deantodd8103]

I love the fact that you are able to see the humanity in Jada Pinkett-Smith. You're right that a lot of us see her as narcissistic and self-serving. But we would be in danger of becoming like that ourselves if we can't find some sympathy - or even empathy - for when even someone like her is genuinely sorrowful. You're awesome, Spidey!

[@auntyfluffy]

The lady has her own trauma for sure, I appreciate your post

[@jujubees5855]

There's nothing wrong with being selective with empathy and anyone who thinks a bleeding heart is the moral high ground also runs the danger of thinking your 💩 don't stink, much like Jada.

[@aaronaleal]

I def WONT end up like her if I don't sympathize with this monster haha

[@46foryounger]

While this is true it’s dangerous to go there for someone who is directly dealing with a narcissist/sociopath. They will never take responsibility and while it may not be their fault that they have this personality disorder it’s an extremely unbearable environment for those who have a familial connection.

[@craxyman9025]

Please tell us, what part of Jada do you empathize with?

[@garlicgalore]

Jade seems like someone who hasn't matured in a healthy direction emotionally and that is a hard place to be, especially in public. I have compassion for someone like that even as I also don't like the behaviors I see or want to be around them. Spidey I always admire your analyses that help me remember we are all just humans trying to get along...and we can all use understandings of body and facial cues to decide who is good for us to be around, or maybe not so good for us. You are teaching some real skills for life and demonstrating some real values that make the world a better place. Thank you.

[@-lavender-777]

She says never there was physical intimacy.. girl then he did not want to marry you you were just a friend

[@neva_nyx]

I'd say she has at least one personality disorder, but we'd need a doctor to be sure.

[@garlicgalore]

@@neva_nyx professionals can be amazing at picking apart the nuances. C-PTSD and ADHD can both mimic personality disorders. It would be nice for herself if she could get some deep help and discover what she needs inside herself.

[@annt7384]

She’s got a lot of insecurities she could heal with therapy, but she sounds more comfortable talking about therapy without actually doing it.

[@eniko9023]

My mom is a pathological liar too. She's always been living in her fantasy world. I remember when she talked about her past relationships and that she made THEM break up with her so that they can get a nicer closure because they're not the dumped ones...😒 At the time, I believed every single word she said. But later on, when I was old enough I just realized she was only 17 when she gave birth to my brother. A 17-year-old young girl. What past relationships?? What love games?? She was just a teenager with probably 0 to 1 experience, but in her mind she was sooo mature and an expert on relationships. She was literally a kid. I feel the same way with Jada. She's talking about Tupac like they had a 10-year- long relationship or something.... It was 27 years ago, there's nothing to talk about. It was nothing...All in her head.

[@looking4things669]

Yes, my mother as well. She was a narcissist who was an expert on everything but had no education in any field.

[@mojadah10]

Jada was in a couple of Tupacs early music videos (Keep Ya Head Up). When she was on a TV show (A Different World) he guest starred. They spoke of eachother in interviews. They were very close, loyal friends. Whatever we don't like about her, I don't understand why people think what she says about their friendship is false.

[@ongjanette]

@@mojadah10 I must admit, it's because I have watched Tupac fans who knew his life story debunk how the Rykers visit could not have happened according to her timeline (maybe she misremembered some dates?)... anyway, I can see how she has real deep feelings fo Tupac and they had real connection at one time. So there's that. But Jada embellishes her tales and memories and is so unreliable one just takes anything she says with a grain of salt. I am not saying her friendship is false, though. But like most commenters here, I understand how it can be more romantic to sanitize and glorify a dead man's memory than to live with real people in the real world.

[@noise6869]

​@@ongjanettejust like Spidey said 👏🏻

[@eniko9023]

@@mojadah10 I don't question their friendship, I'm sure it wasn't fake. But romanticizing a friendship over your own marriage for decades is just a major red flag to me. She openly chooses Tupac over her husband over and over again and acts like it was a forced marriage. Maybe it was in a way, I don't know. But she could have millions chances to divorce. Yet, she chooses to b*tch about Will all the time, meanwhile talking abour Tupac like he was a god.

[@loisgilbert2464]

No one will ever live up to the idea we have or create for ourselves of a loved one we lost, especially after having much time with them. Period. She'll always feel it so deeply and no will will ever compare to the romanticized version of someone we create after they're gone. Idk and idc what her and PACs relationship ever was but I do know, it didn't have a chance to play out so in her head, it's whatever she needed and wanted it to be.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Wow this is such a good point. And so well expressed. You’re so right. She created a story based on memories and hope. It can be whatever she wants because nobody can correct it.

[@neva_nyx]

Pac had a fiance. She was where Jada wished she was. Jada wanted to be proposed to, however, pac was already engaged. She's using pac to illuminate herself into something great, she's all lies all ego.

[@taratucker342]

You are so right!!

[@tracyaf6084]

So much this. A fantasy will always be more perfect than an actual living person you spend day to day life with.

[@cynthiahendrix6785]

THANK YOU FOR THESE VIDEOS. THEY ARE VERY HELPFUL IN UNDERSTANDING HUMAN BODY LANGUAGE

[@LaPinturaBella]

Jada has deified Tupac. He died young, and tragically. And their lives had diverged a long time ago. He represents the ideal and he can never let her down because he's frozen in time in her imagination. He has become the ideal against which all others are measured. That makes it really hard on the living breathing spouse you see every day.

[@monicapatton1405]

You really got me with your “arguing from conclusion” I believe you called it. And also the 5 second test-which is very thought provoking. I don’t like Jada, I’m team Will, even quietly team “free Will” & in that I have been gathering evidence to confirm my bias. It was going really well in this video until she genuinely cried & I felt it & teared up & I finally had empathy for the woman & thought man she really misses her friend. And then you said what you said about arguing from conclusion etc & I realized that’s exactly what I have been doing. Happy to see another side of her & open my mind up to more information instead of just more witch hunt. GREAT ANALYSIS! Thanks Spidey.

[@deantodd8103]

We can recognize and call out bad behavior, while at the same time recognizing that the person doing the behavior is still a human being with actual thoughts and feelings, too. Yeah, I feel sympathy for Jada for things she's suffered. And at the same time, I still detest her treatment of her husband.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Wow thanks. It’s important to check our biases or just be aware of them. It may not change a thing. We might still see her as a manipulative person and think Will needs to get out of this relationship. At the end of the day it might just be “ok, she had this real moment, but it doesn’t change anything.” But yeah, having a conclusion and not challenging it at all is a very foolish way to proceed imo. I’m glad it gave you something to think about ❤️

[@misspickles47]

Okay, I can emphasize that she loved someone that she felt was her soul mate, and he died. Okay I can get and understand that. But WHY do she have to make Will's life a living Hell?? If you didn't love Will, don't marry him? If you loved Will, but now you don't or you're bored, let the man go. All this public emasculation is unnecessary.

[@monicapatton1405]

@@deantodd8103 yes exactly that. Of course it’s just our perception of how she treats him really. He isn’t coming out and saying all of that.

[@monicapatton1405]

@@misspickles47 at the end of the day it is his choice. He isn’t saying his life is a living hell however. We are just inferring that. We just don’t know. But I hear you and have many of the same thoughts. Still, my opinion doesn’t make it true.

[@Beckaboo3397]

Spidey , this was by far the best analysis I’ve seen on Jada. Completely objective and fair. Also I agree this interviewer was amazing he would probably do well in the interrogation room! Thank you so much.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Thanks so much. And I agree. He would make an excellent interrogator.

[@Beckaboo3397]

My pleasure, thank you for being a leader and not a follower. That can be really tough in today’s world. ❤

[@Cat-qo3ht]

I appreciate the personal integrity and professionalism you always bring to your videos, Spidey. It's true, very rarely is someone 100% an evil person. It's not healthy to think of ourselves or others with all-or-nothing summarizing.

[@Kurohabaki98]

Imagine having your life and reputation destroyed by someone you're married to who doesn't even remotely care about you and is currently head over heels in love with someone who's been dead for over 27 years. And to add insult to injury goes on to write books and do interviews further denigrating you in front of the entire world.

[@McQueenPress]

How heartbreaking it must have been for him to learn that not only his wife preferred another man, but that his daughter also preferred another father. All thanks to the mother's unceasing, highly-public whining.

[@sheilaconcitis8385]

And have kids with that person. She is so hurtful to not just him, but the children as well. Shame on her

[@redfo3009]

Who. Who says this about their ex while they are still with a current partner? That’s a mean thing to do. She’s mean and horrible. And she screws her sons friend! This woman needs to be called out and shut up

[@monicapatton1405]

Can’t stand the woman and Tupac isn’t her ex, they were not a couple, they were friends. She is speaking about a good friend she lost tragically.

[@janetcones1858]

I agree!! Right???? She says that 500 times. Right?

[@thatgirlkells5505]

Tupac is not her ex. Really not sure what kind of hang up she has for this man.

[@stacylynnmingo7965]

💯!!! My sons are in their early 20s. I absolutely adore their closest friends. The thought of gettin it on with one of them genuinely makes me wanna retch. I love their friends in a motherly way. NOT in a sexual let’s get down kinda way.

[@rhondarowland1487]

😅

[@LWin-ps8jp]

We react to how ppl make us feel. I don't know the in's and out's of her and Will's relationship but she makes me feel that something isn't right. If genuine love isn't there, it's time to let the relationship go.

[@jailyn6345]

I always love how these videos feel like brain breaks. With all the empty content in KZbin these days I always feel so good knowing I’ve learned something every Saturday morning 😂 you’re the best spidey

[@luckylass5444]

My mother was both a sociopath and a narcissist, so I am sensitive to people who display reminders of her. Jada grates on my nerves. I hope Will wakes up and frees himself.

[@ikemkrueger]

I think the cost is too high for him.

[@sheilaconcitis8385]

He deserves so much more. My heart goes out to him

[@dantesos7564]

At the 6:44 minute when she's saying she had emotional intimacy, intellectual intimacy etc with Tupac ... Will mirrored this sentiment towards her in an interview he did with Oprah and to a lesser extent in other interviews. So its very interesting because Will mimics her quite a bit, down to the way they fake laugh where they're laughing but not really, they're actually looking to see if you're buying their bs.

[@SearchingOblivion]

The way she talks about their "intellectual" connection, and how intelligent Will is as well, it's giving me strong "I'm such a deep thinker, I need someone who can keep up and stimulate me intellectually" vibes. A lot of times the people who emphasise how attracted they are to someone's InTeLlEcT (🙄) are just trying to seem smart themselves. Just as with the "he was brave enough to walk up to ME", she's complimenting herself by complimenting someone else. I'll have to pay attention to that specifically, but I have a feeling that she tends to subtly (or not so subtly) put herself on some kind of pedestal. Like a more subliminal way of humblebragging? Sorry, english is not my first language so I had to improvise in some places to circumscribe what I meant 😅

[@sallys9632]

Ugh, yes, my sister who is a bona fide narc is exactly like this and it is so cringe to watch because they don't even realize that is how it comes off. Just makes you want to roll your eyes and then laugh

[@lelelew2735]

Its very interesting that these people are the ones who receive deep love and admiration while people who are truely humble and sweet get walked over. Society definitely accepts narc behavior than genuine behavior. So either way shes more likable

[@dorishall3739]

You should have known how to select a man like the one that you wanted, then you would not have to DREAM ❤

[@bhavnaganiga6272]

The nastiest part is Tupac can't even defend himself or call her bullshit out. She is using a dead man so much for "Her" narrative, it sickens me🤮

[@ezmereldagerard6999]

Amen 🙏🙏

[@santinamarie4699]

I don't even think she is feeling the feelings she's pretending to feel. I think she's just so narcissistic that she can only think about herself and how she's coming across to others

[@Texas_Painter]

I’m SO DISTRACTED by the Prada on your shirt….its almost glowing….. Excellent analysis! She clearly isn’t the love or partner Will thinks or thought she was/is….. He could do so much better. She’s no prize.

[@rebeccariehle2764]

😂😂😂 SAME!

[@giuliavandenesse2876]

8:45 I never take head-tilting at face-value, because it's the best (though still obvious) way to fake sympathy, empathy, understanding. And when we use it, specially as the receptor, it motivates the interlocutor to keep talking, and go more in-depth, giving us the information we want.

[@JoieManatad]

The details she remembers about Tupac! and he can't refute them now, right.

[@Voodoofairy88]

I can't imagine wasting almost 30 years of my life on a dead man who didn't love me like that. Let's not forget that Jada's obsession with Tupac is one sided. He friend zoned her & married his actual girlfriend right after he got out of Rikers. Jada was hanging out in LA with Will.... probably trying to make Tupac jealous since it's that girlfriend that he asked to marry him right before he went to Rikers for 30 days, not Jada.

[@rebeccariehle2764]

I can't be the only person who'd love for Spidy to be a fly on the wall while we had conversations with different people in our lives 🤩 STUDY ME! 😂

[@fazerkp]

Spidey, i love how you educate us...learning about smiles and your examples. Ive been in the people biz since the late '80s... ive always taken on people's "stuff"...when i got into my career, i would come home absolutely drained. Being able to read people's energy is a blessing and a curse. Im SO glad i found you!! You're one of my faves! This is my take on Jaida: she is the kind of narcissist that is scary. To me, she's also a sociopath. I feel so bad for Will and her children. She's got Will totally hypnotized to her "religion". If he ever leaves her, he'll need so much unbrainwashing therapy. I know that sounds harsh...but..🤷🏼‍♀️

[@Rica0204]

She really seems to hate Will. 0 repsect - his clean nice guy personna is not for her. She seems so disgusted when she talka abput Will.

[@reneedickerson73]

There is a video on TikTok where a person proves that Jada never went to Rikers at all. She disproves every point Jada claims, with evidence. I think she’s a user. She used will to further her “career” and feed her endless narcissism and using Tupac to further her book sales. Sickness. I hope Will figures this out and has the courage to sever ties with this narcissist. I know how hard this can be.

[@moni6290]

Yes, finally someone is pointing this out. I was waiting for such a comment!

[@mandyinseattle]

7:30 nobody could ever hold a candle to Tupac because not only was he beautiful on the outside but he was deep on the inside and he seemed exactly as she portrayed him. What a devastating loss that must have been for her. But as an adult she had an obligation to treat her husband well and I don't think she did. That's on her. If you can't make a marriage with Will Smith work passably, you got issues 😆

[@Victoria-gq8gt]

Oh yeah, Tupac was a wonderful soul... in jail for rape. Yeah, a golden child.

[@Solodee12]

@@Victoria-gq8gthe didn’t even rape the girl but for y’all to go off what the news tell y’all I see why he wanted to leave this earth

[@tanyabeautycoach]

Someone on tiktok debunked her visit to Rikers, saying Tupac was married during the time she claimed he proposed to her, apparently the timeline doesn’t match. Video went viral and this was before this interview.

[@mareebrissenden99]

It was a very moving moment when Jada was emotional about seeing Tupac for the last time, very well done thank you

[@nancythomas1954]

This was a good place to stop, and so very true. People don't understand how destructive anger, hate, any negative emotion is really bad for you to hold on to. Even the minor ones like disgust and disrespect. Life is way to short. Thank you for explaining things we might have missed. It is enjoyable always to see if I have it right or not just going on my experience, and visceral feelings. Hope this finds you happy and healthy my friend. See you next time

[@JimHardee]

Imagine a timeline where Tupac was still alive, was married to Jada, and she was his Yoko Ono. Over the last 30 years, she's broken him down and sent him down a path similar to Will.

[@janetcones1858]

Right???? I can see it,or he’d have her eliminated. right?

[@RhetoricalMuse]

I think one of the reasons she liked him is because she couldn't do that.

[@spencerchalfont]

It asks a lot to imagine a timeline like that. However Tupac has a far different spirit compared to Will. Tupac would never submit to her foolishness. This is why she favors the past - Tupac isn’t around to check her.

[@AlexaCBrown]

Tupac saw right through her, and married someone he loved... he moved on, before he was murdered 🙏💝💛

[@MrsCarrieSnyder]

I don’t think he would have chosen her. I think he knew something was off. He kept her in the friend zone for a reason. He was engaged to someone else. I think He could have had Jada if he wanted her.

[@pikusiekuk]

First and foremost! So happy you called Steven "a great interviewer". You two are my top creators. Never thought I'll see you in one space (albeit on KZbin) my soul is happy 😊

[@Evanthebat15]

Hey Spidey, thank you for this video and for always reminding us to be kind. I went from being a fan of Jada to not liking a lot of the stuff she's done but one thing I feel we cannot deny is that what she felt there was real grief. Tupac is the one that got away for her, she's looking back fondly at the memories while I feel that with Will the reason she doesn't do that is because he's still alive and well. We as human tend to suddenly romanticizes those that have passed away, there is no negative points or flaw, maybe that's why we say "Don't speak ill of the dead." I felt sympathy for her and appreciated the fact that the interviewer held space by hugging her and in a way blocking her from the camera so that she could have her moment to grief for what she's lost.

[@annt7384]

She can mourn the life she never had with Tupac, but that’s no reason to disrespect and abuse anyone else who tries to love her.

[@MaudMargretheRex]

Reasons why I love Spidey… Being honest and transperant 🙏🏼👏🏼🙏🏼

[@AlannaGaspari]

I love this channel, thank you Spidey!

[@Sera-Marie]

Finally, someone covering THIS interview. Thank you Spidey. Stephen is an incredible interviewer, it truly feels like he learns a little from each interview and improves his technique. Jada is a piece of work, Poor Will. ❤️🖖🏼

[@yb8by9]

Her love for Tupac is so admirable. No one can replace her empty space after his death. And that is a serious tragedy to Will.

[@Pitman335]

Will is competing with a dead man... And loosing 😢

[@DrPatriceBerry]

Glad I watched this and glad that the interviewer left that emotion in the Final Cut. Thanks for your analysis

[@tulpenballerina]

When Jada starts crying when she sees the photo, I also feel it's genuine, but the reason for these emotions doesn't have to have anything to do with the people in the picture. Maybe she remembers the time and it was all so exciting back then and she was young and her life path was still open... because I find it strange that she puts the photo on the table so quickly with one quick movement. When I see loved ones in a photo, I cherish that photo, that piece of paper. I have the feeling that at that moment she is mourning something else and that she is bitter.

[@van5135]

Can you place a number on the video where she did that?

[@tulpenballerina]

@@van5135 32:09 I mean maybe she´s doing it in this manner because she´s not feeling very comfortable. But it is an interesting gesture.

[@acceptinglife6491]

what??

[@r_rodriguez3]

Thank you for keeping your videos completely objective, it absolutely helps me to see the actual behaviors you are assessing vs coming at it from a biased angle like you mentioned. I stopped following another KZbin channel personality that solely focused on the negative about certain celebrities and wasn’t all that great or informative. It simply just fueled the “hate them” fire, which I disagree with. Thanks for doing such an amazing job analyzing behaviors and explaining it to your audience. Learning so much from you!

[@katemadorna7010]

Thank you for trying to stay objective! It’s very rare and valuable in our time!!! You are doing a great job 👏

[@emeraldgreen2219]

Thank you Spidey, for sharing your thoughts and insights. I appreciate your compassion and critical thinking. Jada wrote that in her earlier life she never wanted to appear vulnerable so you’re right about that. Before Tupac died, he and Jada had an argument and never made up. She met him in high school when he was dirt poor (with barely any clothing) so she bought him clothes and devised ways to give them to him in such a way that allowed him to accept her gifts without embarrassment. Later, when she needed help he was there for her, so they formed a huge bond. Her comment about how we wouldn’t care about some beefs etc. we have on our deathbed helped me too. I doubt if a narcissist would have the ability to be such a deep thinker.

[@angelbass2975]

You have a very good point on this. I have not watched the interview. And to see her break down truly feels human, real, and honest. I don't care for her very much, however I am not going to think she has no pain in her heart. We are all human. It's good to see it when we can. Well put Spidey.

[@maggiebeth5442]

Hey Spidey, loving those little curls in your hair 🥰 Jada's face lights up whenever she mentions Tupac in the same way I'm sure your partner lights up to your cute curls 🤩 Only 50 k more subscribers to reach the big M, looking forward to the celebration! Thanks for all the great content, we learn so much together 🥰

[@VicEiland]

Her divorcing Will would be the death of an ideal about herself. Jada is your ride or die. Jada can fix it. Jada is in control. Jada is significant.

[@vickihandel3620]

Is it possible that she believes her own lies to the extent that she is telling the story over and over again building her own acting moves to make all believe it with her? She’s frightening to listen to? Because she spreads word salad to convince others that she’s being honest???? It’s too precise and perfectly descriptive for me not to believe she’s scripted this story over and over! It’s what she wants to believe! I believe she believes it but I don’t believe it was the way she’s describing! Because he’s not here to defend the lies !

[@ERSwanger]

I love that you try so hard to be impartial. You do so good Spidey!

[@netmaster88]

I am very impressed you caught the contempt. I passively missed it, but when you showed the freeze frame, I was like whoah yeah thats contempt all right lol. I think, and I may be off here, but I think not only does she have contempt for Will, but I personally feel like this contempt comes from a place of jealousy. She is jealous of his success and the way things just simply go right for him and how he fits in anywhere. I'm guessing she has to work hard at it and people don't like her work, dont like her personality, dont want to give her attention and that I think is what creates this jealousy that later turns into anger and contempt. I also noticed that when talking about Will, she slows down 5 times more than when talking about 2 Pac. She starts oicking her words more carefully and searching for the best word instead of talking freely. I think Will and her have gotten in some nasty fights about her saying something about him and is almost scared to say the wrong word because she is afraid of upsetting Will and I also think Will is personable and thoughtful when speaking so when talking about him she has adopted his own mannerisms in speaking carefully. Just my thoughts.

[@Moonpearl121]

I also see a lot of jealousy there when she talks about Will. Bit like Amber Heard being so jealous and angry that everyone loves Johnny Depp. A lot of people love Will Smith.

[@RayneyKayLa]

Narcs and Borderlines are typically jealous of how genuine others are....because they can never be.

[@moirosalina]

I believe we are in desperate need for more nuance. It's why I love your channel. Keep doing what you do ❤

[@monicaenrique317]

Another excellent, objective analysis! Ever since I started watching your videos I find that I look for behavioral cues when I interview candidates for positions and when I'm in meetings with my coworkers! Oh boy....what a new perspective on company meetings!!!🤣

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Hahaha I love it. So glad you’re finding real world use for what we discuss 😊

[@susanlewis1875]

You have a specific gift for accessing your clinical training to bring out the humanity in us all. I hope your message - not just regarding Jada - travels far and wide. Thank you.

[@bumblebee_ms]

As much as I don't agree with Jada, I cried when she held the image of Tupac and her friend. It showed how in-love she was with him and won't admit it, but it shows.

[@trejones5965]

Also the friend in the picture also passed around the same time pac did

[@bumblebee_ms]

@@trejones5965 That makes sense.

[@cocoq10]

I haven't watched this video yet, but I did just finish the Dear Mama documentary because I didn't know that much about Tupac - there was no mention about Jada being a significant person in Tupac's life. So I don't really know exactly what their relationship was other that what Jada says. But speaking of very interesting body language and use of voice and facial expressions, Tupac would be a really good one to study especially in chronological order. I saw his demeanor change from youth to early adulthood pretty drastically (at least in that documentary) almost to where he seemed like 2 totally different people and i have 3 theories as to why. I'd be curious to see your take! Thanks for the videos!!

[@joannadams1542]

I don't think she's listing things she respects about her husband. She's listing things other people respect about him. She's aware of everyone else being angry at her contempt for him and is trying to make amends. Not because she feels any care for him, but because she wants people to not be angry at her anymore. She still can't stand him. Its more irritating to see her trying to manipulate all of us. She has no respect for her husband. She married him for money and fame and has hatred him for needing him. She should have had all of that without him.

[@SpadeD1omonds]

You teach me something new every time brother TY! Stoked for the next one as always!

[@lumiere2524]

I love your positivity, how you try and remain objective. You definitely lead by example thank you for you insight and lessons. I find body language fascinating and challenging. Take Care, Best Wishes for all.

[@heatherbishop6526]

I’m always so impressed with his ability to keep things objective and neutral. Great job as usual❤

[@cheesecake8094]

Spidey your ending was beautiful too. Shoutout for those reminders

[@MissHellybaybee]

I would have argued that there were no tears but I agree with you - because she seems awful doesn’t mean that she never has genuine emotion

[@kjab87]

Thank you, Spidey! Your encouragement to look at both sides without judgements but with curiosity is a beautiful life challenge. Many blessings.🙏

[@rubyjewell8222]

I love your 5 second explanation!!! Brilliant!

[@natashagilbert3]

I can def see why people don’t like her. But she doesn’t bother me as much as others. I think she’s a regular flawed person who has a lot of selfish moments, like all of us do. I think she works to see her good and bad qualities. She’s just a person. People forget that sometimes. Great analysis as always❤

[@acceptinglife6491]

same

[@mrshess443]

Your background makes you a well-rounded analyst that brings some additional skills to the whole method of BLA. Love it!

[@melissamoonchild9216]

imagine talking about your husband of over 25 years and saying hes 'not the guy for me' 😭

[@jamilafever8110]

Whew. This is indeed a tough crowd. Lots of understanding and empathy here.

[@soso-cm7kt]

I'm only speaking from my experience... but it so happened that people that I know - with diagnosed more serious disorders (1 narcissist, 1 sociopath) also have such ease in crying... despite the lack of empathy, they can suddenly start crying sincerely. This happens very often. And she does it also very often, in almost every interview.) As you said, usually when we cry we try to hide ourselves instinctively... not only in gestures but also globally - but for her it's almost like an item on the agenda even if it looks and maybe feel very naturally.. in my opinion she in purpose emphasizes this emotion everry time.

[@eliph222]

To me it seems so clear how this is all about „chemistry“ and „reasonable“ encounters in life. And when there is chemitry involved we sometimes use to idealize, espacially when it‘s in the unchangeable past.

[@nostalji93]

My first guess about the eye role was that she is annoyed about how difficult it is to divorce compared to break up with a boyfriend.

[@kib7406]

Spidey, I really appreciated what you said about arguing from a conclusion. You made me want to share this video with everyone I know that does that. So well said.

[@JamilaCrockett]

❤LOL!!! I think Spidey loves reading Jada bc she’s so expressive when she talks

[@shanti5718]

She is running around in her own dark bubble

[@chuckm1961]

She’s a woman talking about strong feelings.

[@shanti5718]

@@chuckm1961 She is only talking about concepts, but seems to fails to grasp the essence. Thats why she is running around in circles. There is no meaning to it, pointless.

[@ingretta74]

Thank you for this beautiful analysis. You are so good at your craft. Keep elevating.

[@francescawilliams8177]

Has she considered leaving him ? I mean she doesn't seem to like him that much and is clearly in love with a ghost. If I ever dislike my husband this much , I'd not slag him off, I'd leave quietly.

[@MrsCarrieSnyder]

This!!!! She’s torturing him. And making sure the entire world sees it 😔

[@kathleenj01]

I thought they hadn't lived together for 7 year.

[@Mocharocks9966]

She just lights up talking about Tupac , and that’s ok to have memories of someone you loved . But, don’t belittle your husband to the world and force your husband to be jealous of a deceased man . By the way Spidey, the way you describe the human mind and our thoughts is so fascinating. You teach us something new in every video ❤

[@deirdrecorey3876]

Poor Will... He's been competing with a ghost for his WHOLE MARRIAGE..... He deserves happiness....

[@MayaO25]

You teach me so much! Thank you! Thank you for doing this, I came across you're channel yesterday, after that first video I saw, I subscribed immediately and I just kept on watching and watching... you sir, are awesome, thank you so much. Amazing work! ❤

[@sugasuga_0342]

She wanted 2Pac and never couldn’t get him.

[@agneseclaisse88]

Thank you so much for your objectivity. Not only it’s admirable but I find it also helps me personally in my everyday life trying to become a better person by not letting my emotions and biases cloud my judgement and actions.

[@DebbieBlanke]

So thankful for you choosing THIS interview Spidey. Steven is amazing, everyone should be subscribing to his talent. This interview starts with that outfit, her over-extravagant out-spoken statement in itself. She makes her manic emotions difficult to believe or empathize with - she is after all an actress.

[@andreanewell628]

You compared the way that Jada told the story about Will calling her after his divorce in two different interviews. I couldn’t help but compare both to the way she talked about meeting Tupac. She was clearly impressed with Tupac being bold enough to approach and speak with her. I was not at all sure that she felt similarly about Will’s confident approach. And rightfully, so, perhaps. It was more than a little presumptuous to say “you’re seeing me.” As if she could have no possible objection. So when I heard the first version in the interview, you focused on this video, I heard the clutching pearls part, and assumed that she was not favorably impressed with it. It almost surprised me that she had, in fact, called him when she got back to LA. Because in the circles where I travel, clutching pearls is something you do when someone is behaving in an uncouth or ill-advised manner, socially. I suppose there must be other ways of using the idiom? What is your experience with it previously? It was only after seeing the People interview where it occurred to me that she was trying to suggest that she found his boldness, attractive, as she had found Tupac’s assertive self-introduction impressive. But… it’s still hard for me to buy it. To me, it seems she was distancing herself from that idea by saying that laying his claim that way “could be a little sexy,״ rather than stating out that she *did* find it sexy. In other words, it seems to me like she’s trying to have it both ways. She doesn’t want to alienate people who admire her husband, by suggesting that his advances were kind of oafish, but she took pity on him. But I think the wording kind of leaves that emotional response available just below the surface. I can’t point out what makes me think so, but it still reads as a kind of contempt to me. And if she owned it, frankly, maybe it wouldn’t bother me so much. Because, as I said, she he would not be the only one who finds the braggadocio appeal to be less than appealing.

[@brendatrujillo2666]

The nature of her smile toward Tupak had a loving one around someone she felt emotionanal /commection/ feeling from.

[@brendatrujillo2666]

17:47

[@mujigikabugi3927]

This is so sad, I feel for Will, how can a dead guy beat you up to this? well, it's Jada. Men we shed so many tears, suffered through the years, and shed so many tears Lord, Will lost so many peers, and shed so many tears, Lord knows He tried But ain't no future right for him.😥😢😭😓

[@MyCoachLorraine]

For me this video is a great example of people quite often don't understand themselves and can be so narrow minded that they find ways to justify how they express themselves. No matter how far back they step that narrow lens blocks their view of how they are seen by the world

[@andreanewell628]

I put in a comment about the clutching pearls thing, and then finished watching the video, and was struck by the notion that clutching pearls is kind of the ultimate defending the neck gesture. So applying your description of such gestures, as indicative of vulnerability, that presents a couple different explanations. Maybe Jada felt vulnerable because she found will attractive in his assertiveness. But she could also have felt vulnerable because the assertive approach undermines the sense of control that can make a new relationship seem acceptably safe. Anyway, I do appreciate your consistent intention and practice of considering people that you analyze as whole human people, rather than villains/demons, or heroes/angels. I haven’t really watched a lot on this subject, but I tend to agree with the things that you’ve said about it so far. And I do appreciate the reminder that, well, she may not always be above board in her relationships, she is a human being with real feelings and brokenness that deserves consideration.

[@jackiemesa7541]

What a fantastic analogy at ~34 minutes about seeing *only* what we look for.

[@keywoniaspencer]

Thank you for staying objective about this topic. We tend to throw stones when our relationships are just as toxic. WE DONT KNOW THE DYNAMIC OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP. WE DON'T!! So, to hate this woman over the "things" she did to Will is ridiculous. He could divorce her but stay. Why?? He mentioned cheating on BOTH wives and abandoning his son. Failing the women in his life. Will is not a victim. In my opinion, if you hate this woman due to writing the story of her life....telling her truth. Then, you might have a mental illness. She needs help with healing from her past not hate.

[@BambiRose1666]

Hello Spidey, There is a lot to unpack here. Thank you.. .. I'll have to come back tomorrow -its late, (currently). More importantly, the grief at the end, really affected me. I'm still mourning the death of my 1st child and only son. So, I'll be back tomorrow. P.S. You are balanced and do what you do very well. No bias

[@sondra4789]

Pretty much her entire description of Will Smith when she met him she pretty much choked out of him throughout the years. It’s like she’s mapping out her strategy to burst all his bubbles. I mean, who wants to be happy all the time!? It’s much better to be miserable and “intellectual”. She’s so high up in her high horse looking down on Simple Willy and his big dreams. Omg she’s a monster.

[@diane4968]

My anxiety imagines everyone analyzing me the way spidey deconstructs every millisecond

[@livingauthenticallyonmyownterm]

I’m actually crying at how Jada tried so hard not to cry as she explained her experience when talking about going to see Tupac in Rykers. I’ve never seen her react like that, because I saw early on how Jada acted to everything with contempt, judgement, gaslighting, treating Will horribly by disrespecting his feelings over and over, and I’ve seen she had very narcissistic characteristics flavour to how she normally acts towards people, which I despise, so I will not watch anything about that particular person after finding them being any sort of Narcissistic. I’ve heard that Rykers is THE most horrific prison for many reasons, and can only imagine what it would have been like in there for anyone. My question now is is Jada feeling her own feelings about being in Rykers and how she was treated herself, or feeling how Tupac must have/was feeling being in there. Was she sad for herself or Tupac? If she was sad for herself, and not Tupac, the narcissistic characteristic is there. If she was feeling sad for Tupac, it wasn’t necessarily there. We will never know. Thanks for a great breakdown of Jada Spidey! ❤

[@moni6290]

She probably didn't visit him there. The timeline doesn't fit. The Sidley Twins explain it very well in their latest video.

[@queenofweaves916]

Jada is a hell of an actress let’s not forget that.

[@latesia5408]

@@moni6290there’s literally a picture of Tupac holding Jada in rykers stop believing SM investigators and Google yourself