Will the TUNED Ford Ranger Raptor Fail The Extreme TFL Toaster Towing Test?

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[@christophernoe5367]

The ranger raptor seems to be one of the very few trucks that offer real “value”. A super truck for $57,000? That’s not bad!

[@adrianhosein7698]

Check us back in 5 years lol

[@evoemperor3776]

Well it's not really a truck but a ford bronco with a bed in the back.

[@kubeanie18]

​@evoemperor3776 the Bronco is based on the ranger. It's the other way around.

[@Ir3channel]

@@evoemperor3776this has got to be the worst take I’ve ever read

[@cwqrpportable]

@@evoemperor3776 Huh?

[@LukeEdward]

I’m surprised the y’all at TFL don’t use the pun “TOW-ster” test

[@Jay-me7gw]

Should have copy righted that before Roman could

[@PlumbRalph]

Love the look of that Ranger Raptor 🇺🇸

[@smarticus6384]

It turns out the Ranger Raptor is as good as advertised.

[@melissasmess2773]

600,000 recalls this year alone says otherwise 😂

[@stacymanley161]

@@melissasmess2773not the ranger

[@vernt4583]

Why didn’t they just tune it like that from the factory!!! Ohhh they can make more money 💰 to sell the extra stuff

[@homernoy]

@@vernt4583 I'm sure they wanted the stock version to meet certain MPG goals, and that tune affects gas mileage.

[@Deatomizer]

The Raptor out sells Toyota here in Aus. It is a great vehicle.

[@tactical_potato81]

You know you guys continue to produce these Ranger Raptor videos and it's making me want to trade in my Bronco for one. Damn you

[@rickdykstra4518]

I’m assuming you’ve increased your number of transmission shift by following right behind your camera vehicle. Each time you close distance you’re having to let off the gas causing it to shift and then when you get back into the gas it is shifting again vs a smoother constant throttle if nobody was in front of you. This contributes to worse case scenario testing , which is great for testing.

[@lray801]

Not to mention blocking airflow.

[@zellodavis8453]

@@lray801yea, I came to mention this. A big blocky SUV is definitely affecting airflow to the truck so close behind it.

[@diesel6916]

@@lray801 at 20MPH i don't think so

[@jdfleetguy28]

Great job TFL, loving the Ranger Raptor content. I agree with you guys, I own a Ranger Raptor as well, its my daily driver, and it really is as good as you guys have said and shown that it is. I tuned mine about a week or two ago. Power was impressive and even more so now.

[@BorellaFamilyAdventures]

this thing just keep killing the expectations that the industry tries to sell the consumer of what a truck could be... Nice job Ford!

[@maxracingteam23]

So we know that the half tons and mid size trucks get extremely hot when doing the toaster test. I’d like to see the ram 6.4 HD, gmc 6.6 and the ford 7.3 SD on the toaster test to see if the heavier duty trucks handle the heat better.

[@davidheckart639]

Back in the day (before WW2) there was an actual “half ton” truck. In this century my F150 has 150 lbs more payload than a family member’s diesel which you might call a “one ton,” at half the price.

[@HatWearingDog]

You’d have to load it with an equivalent proportion of it’s advertised towing capacity. Of course a 3/4 ton can pull a Kei truck. That doesn’t mean anything.

[@maxracingteam23]

@@HatWearingDog for instance you would have to load a 2500 or f250 with a skidsteer.

[@dmegahan]

This truck keeps getting better. I think I might order a 2025

[@bryy2053]

I got one in production as we speak in shelter green. I can't wait.

[@Schwiti]

@@bryy2053I've had my '24 in Shelter Green for just over two months now... How long has it been in production status? Mine took almost a yr but I think those timeframes have come down a LOT. Good luck you're going to love it!

[@volvo09]

​@@bryy2053 nice!

[@jeffschimke3297]

I have I believeit will de a 2025 ranger fx4 orderd hot pepper red trade-in a 2022 ranger tremor with 9,987 miles on it

[@bryy2053]

@Schwiti its been in production for 8 days...checking through status every couple hours haha! My dealer put the order in on July 31st, the day orders closed. But they messed up so they put the highest priority code on my order that they could. I've talked to people that ordered in May and still haven't got a build date yet. I feel for them

[@taylorsvilletony773]

Tailgating the camera truck when doing these tests does not help the towing vehicle.

[@reyalvarez1184]

My thoughts exactly!!! Clean nose to see how much it can pull!

[@m9b7v5]

Wonder if opening exhaust to Baja setting would have helped with cooling a little. Thanks for the video. We certainly love ours.

[@peterj5751]

Let me say from Australia that the country around Colorado looks fantastic. I have to get there someday.

[@tapeitdown1]

Australia looks pretty as well. I watch the Sooshi mango boys and they spend a lot of time in the garden 😊

[@peterj5751]

@@tapeitdown1 we have some very spectacular country here, though we can’t match those Colorado mountains.

[@chrisford5960]

I'd like to see a Ranger XLT with the 2.7l tow 7500lbs up that hill.

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

true id go maybe 6000 max 22' trailer I don't trust tow ratings but if one is towing in the flats of Oklahoma

[@JRs-guitars]

Me too

[@LafemmebearMusic]

@@youtubecarspottersguide1it says 7500 tow 7500. They actually assume you’ll over tow so they build in more strength and capacity than they tell you. Tow 7500.

[@fewworddotrick]

Yeah it cracks me up when all these tow police keyboard warriors think you need a dually to tow 10k pounds. The weight is not even that important- it's where the trailer is hooked to the truck, do you have weight distributing bars and airbags, and what are the trailer aerodynamics like. A half ton pulling an airstream at max capacity or a fifth wheel at max capacity is going to be a totally different experience than a square edged bumper pull at max capacity. The tow police community doesn't apply any of that logic though they can only think with their caveman brain which is weight bad

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

@@fewworddotrick also rear axel ratio 3.21. 3.45 ,3.73 I tow a 7000 lb 26' airstream 890 lb hitch with V8 1/2 ton over the doner pass I 80 , long grade on I-15 to Vegas does good ,a diesel would be better ,my next tow truck will F150 V6 power boost, maybe tundra not sure on the hurricane I-6 ram , in the high altitudes the turbos do better than a NA v8

[@robertaston7256]

I love the towing tests but the Ike Gauntlet is starting to feel too easy for the HD diesel trucks. You could do this toaster test with a shorter trailer and just a very heavy payload for the HD trucks, like a few pallets of stone block or similar.

[@strvph64]

The 2.7 Ecoboost Ranger should be very interesting

[@layne4376]

Ford will have to deal with the 90,000 recalls on that motor first.

[@strvph64]

@@layne4376 The 24's have the motor already out in the wild and the recall is for a previous generation. Also, this ain't Ford making the videos so I don't see how that holds up anything in regards to reviewing an existing product.

[@layne4376]

@@strvph64 I don't think you understand how recalls work. Regardless, even mentioning the regular Ranger to this Raptor is one of those "who gives a shit moments'

[@strvph64]

Shoot, you sound like an authority. Sorry for the logic.

[@layne4376]

@@strvph64 Darn, you sound like you took the Short Bus to school

[@JoseHernandez-co4mw]

Run that tacoma again while it's still hot you guys ran it an a cool day and it almost got very hot

[@jacobhendricks3556]

I still think and aftermarket larger intercooler is a good thing to add especially with the tune.

[@garysarratt1]

After the warranty expires?

[@davidheckart639]

Yes, but be careful of over-cooling the intake air, else during cool & damp weather & light loads you can get condensation which is not good.

[@matthewholzmueller6292]

It's impressive at these power levels, she pulled through, signed, chevy guy😅

[@Xavier1320]

RR seems to be by far the best of the top end mid size trucks

[@nlken7175]

Now lets test the 3.0L Duramax

[@tannerthomas5986]

Can’t wait for you guys to get your hands on a 2.7

[@joeymt3]

I’m sure you guys know and a lot of people will manually control the transmission to keep the RPMs higher to keep the water pump spinning faster, and keep boost levels down. I’d be curious to see a back to back comparison or two of the identical vehicles driving up this hill, one letting the transmission work automatically and one manually controlling the transmission, reducing the amount of shifting and keeping the RPM higher.

[@TKO593]

This makes me feel better about the tune. I don’t intend to push my RR that hard, but it’s nice to know it can handle it.

[@stoutmasta]

You guys should run the new JLU with the 2.0L. That way I can know if mine is special or not, since it over heats with 3,200 lbs when it's rated for 5,000 lbs.

[@derlpbabo492]

Please try banks power mods on one of this tests

[@rts3613]

I would have a hard time buying a midsize truck for 57k, but if I did it would be the Ranger Raptor. Second choice would be the Colorado ZR2 (non Bison). The lil Raptor covers the offroad aspect, small truck aspect and something fun to drive anywhere you're at. I would think the fun to drive factor would be highest in class with the Raptor, especially with the tune. If that's not important to you, I would consider the ZR2.

[@bobbyjarreau5735]

What i would like to know is what’s the mpg before and after the tune on a 100 mile loop

[@robertyoung8289]

TFL? Let's toast the Defender!! 🌡🔥

[@stevehorvat69]

Great review, thanks. Surprised how low the oil pressure gauge reads when you let off throttle. Interesting.

[@markryl-kuchar2373]

Ranger raptor does a very good job of heat management, for the hd trucks you could still use a shorter trailer with a decent weight on it but also put a heavy load in the bed as well

[@garysarratt1]

Tongue weight?

[@mediocreman2]

A 3,300 pound trailer plus a 1,300 pound Acty does not equal 5,500 pounds.

[@jasonbrushett2005]

When you factor in trailer tongue weight and accessories it probably does

[@NOXStellans]

It better work fine with the Raptors much lower towing capacity. None of the Raptors towing limitations come from the drive-train; just the suspension.

[@volvo09]

Oh yeah, regular ranger is 7500lbs.

[@nateisright]

Raptors are very squishy, for better or worse.

[@abinoamreyes4589]

Hey guys can you try this test with a Titan and Titan XD to not only see the difference between the two but to see if an old school truck can be just as capable and true to its maximum rated capacity. It would be a great send off for its last production year

[@Miguelneyney]

Great review TFL!! I want a Ranger Raptor so bad now 😅

[@Deatomizer]

I love the Ranger Raptor. It is by far the perfect (not for towing) truck for sale to date.

[@paulmadkow9143]

Cmon Roman, none of these trucks are affordable.

[@kevinvanlohuizen2709]

I love that raptor

[@Rumblerdoo]

Patiently waiting for the next toaster challenge video.

[@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080]

You guys really need to mod that Defender 90!

[@VAZSFV4]

Would love to see how the last generation Tacoma and 4Runner run these tests. I see endless amounts of them on the road and towing and would love to see how they actually perform.

[@JsGarage]

If I didn’t value interior space so much and a little more trailering capacity I’d have a Ranger Raptor for sure.

[@volvo09]

This one will satisfy all the comments i'd keep seeing under each video "you guys need to toast the ranger raptor!" It did good, that is a grueling tow.

[@rudedogii]

Is that the twin turbo V-6?

[@thestrange_1]

From the digital gauge display, for the transmission, it looks like 300* is the maximum but at 250* it will start to derate itself (there's a yellow line indicating that on the display). Unlike the transmission, the oil temperature does not appear to have any additional "caution" marks before the apparent maximum temperature of 300*, so I'd expect you'd have maximum power available up to that point. I like that Ford gives the driver important information like that, it allows you to potentially change how you're driving if the vehicle is heating up faster than expected.

[@briancavanaugh7604]

Do I think vehicles are "cheap and affordable" these days, NO. But I have to agree with Roman that this vehicle, in todays market and in comparison to its competition, is a good value(RELATIVELY, once again for those in the back.) Go back to early TFL videos and the number one biggest complaint was.................drumroll.........................how expensive truck were getting. People like to complain but you get far more in these trucks vs even 10-15 years ago let alone 20+ years ago and whether or not you want all the doo dads they do add cost. Adjusted for inflation the costs are not extreme when you consider this. Also NEVER pay retail. For crying out loud find good deals and they are out there. Right now I can find Ranger Raptors for 5000$ off msrp if you look, hint its in Port Arthur Texas.

[@Jay-me7gw]

I mean, honestly, I think it’s a good deal even years ago. I look at this truck and compare it to my 2014 F150 Lariat Ecoboost that msrp’d for $57k and, with the exception of its size, is a better equipped truck all around. Difference is I was able to get >20% off MSRP on my Lariat, not sure we will ever see that with these

[@dancronin5513]

Another good torture test. I would love to see you add a no touch laser thermometer to give us some numbers on how hot parts and pieces of the truck are at the end. Hood, the hood support wheels, etc....

[@garysarratt1]

Andre used to have one of those 🤣

[@WW-wf8tu]

It is not "lairy" it is leery. As in sketchy. Cautious.

[@dusty179]

Nice video! Can you PLEASE test 5K Lbs behind a Honda Ridgeline Trail Sport!!!!??????? On the toaster of course!

[@tysongearhart8179]

That would be a great idea to load the HD down heavy and tow with them up the hill that would be real world scenario the construction on the road prove that you have to get equipment up there somehow great video

[@JRs-guitars]

The question i have now...how long do you have to idle that turbo engine to get the temp down enough to turn the truck off? Has to be more than 5 minutes for sure.

[@MegaEdge777]

No need to do a cooldown on liquid cooled turbos.

[@brandonchilders2118]

Andre needs to take his truck up the Toaster.

[@Christopher-xv9wl]

Would like to see the CGVW on these Ranger and Ranger raptors. Maybe ypu all could check into it?

[@keithhunt3437]

If you go through the gauge cluster u can find many more temps like intake temps and even cylinder head temps

[@jlgro2065]

I love the look of the Ranger and it is truly the only mid size truck imo the other one are almost full size trucks

[@johnross6314]

There is supposed to be a “towing” setting on the Ford tuner. Keep things in line, plenty of power, while not too much stress. Was it set optimal for towing? They warn not to tow in a high HP off-road max power/speed type modes. Your throttle foot, based on sound effects, sucks. On-off-on-off-on throttle for zero reason. When towing at max, any driver knows need to be smooth.

[@ALMX5DP]

Where did you hear about multiple settings offered on the FP tune? I have only seen instructions showing one programming setting for "Performance Calibration" giving the advertised power and torque without any mention of different calibrations (like some aftermarket tuners offer).

[@ScotDouglas]

I can verify there are no additional settings on the Ford Performance Parts calibration. We released the performance calibration to work in unison with all of the standard Ranger Raptor modes.

[@meanman6992]

Just think if the Ford engineers are smart and maybe they were. They designed the transmission, transfer case, engine etc. for the “tuned” output, then just offered all the factory models detuned…. So everything is way under-stressed ensuring excellent durability of the mechanical systems. And, making more $$$ from less warranty repairs, while passing the cost of utilizing what it was actually designed to be its factory limits/threshold for a $800 fee… genius……..😐

[@Jay-me7gw]

Or they just were not using all the torque the tune had to offer. Or there are limiters in the tune that dial back torque when intake, coolant, and oil temperatures start to get high 🤷‍♂️

[@JarradShaw]

I don’t think TFL reads this, but regarding Roman’s comment about pricing of the Ranger Raptor… for what is standard on the Ranger compared to a a Big Bend Bronco with decent-ish upgrades for off road perks, the Ranger Raptor hits the “Ford Build” on the website and gives you more. I believe they will raise the price of the Raptor, and GOD I hope not. Give me two years I will absolutely buy one of these for the price and standard options.

[@stephensalt6787]

Affordable! In the Uk the Ranger Raptor is £62,500 ($82,400). Ithink it’s the most expensive pickup available on the Uk market.

[@scottyellis3442]

Impressive

[@montechie]

Love the Ranger Raptor vs the other new mid-sizes, but out of all the Ford dealers in my state they all mark the RR up to ~$66K anyways. At least it tells me what dealers I'll never buy any vehicle from.

[@paulwatson4189]

My local ford dealer in mt airy nc has had two RR and the sticker was 57.000 on the nose and no dealer mark up.

[@MalphMaisy]

Order one then

[@tracygraham5379]

Guys. The regular Ranger can tow 7500 lbs.

[@MrTonaluv]

Leaf springs on the rear of the regular Ranger. Coils on the Raptor.

[@kevinblock2307]

It’s a nice truck 👍

[@ThePackDad]

Considering selling our 32' travel trailer. Kids are older and we want to do some home reno. I may sell my '17 - F350 - 6.2L Gas Lariat that's like new with 71k (it's currently Oct. 8, 2024). I might get as much as 40k back. Soooooo, what to do, what - to - do? Home reno will happen with trailer money, but I can get a Raptor or a Mustang or whatever or the Vette (used) dad always wanted. I'm 51 in a few weeks and I don't have the cash to throw around, but it would be fun to have a smaller fast car to tool around in, but I would miss having a truck to throw stuff in. Never thought I'd have these options when I hit my bottom 29 years ago.

[@steveb6287]

I vote 12 -13 Boss 302!

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

Ok

[@streetrodder06]

Coulda bought it cheaper on ebay for about $500. That's what i did for the ProCal4 tuner for my 23 Bronco. Big difference in price/ same product :)

[@adv.013]

You guys should do a multi truck test where you take a truck in each class from compact to gas and diesel HD trucks make each one tow max and see which one gets up better all at once

[@aerynlovell4754]

@adv.013 They had the "Mega Ike" with the mid-sized trucks. All the trucks failed except Ford and Nissan. The transmission temp of the Ranger was about 50 percent, and the Frontier temperatures were lower than Ford. I would like to see how the Frontier does and if it can keep the transmission below 200 degrees Fahrenheit.

[@thewireman134]

PLEASE TEST THE 24 CANYON DENALI UP THIS HILL!

[@nolanmartin3640]

Am I thinking correctly by saying that, since the air is getting thinner cooling becomes more ineffective but also engine doesn't make as much power, therefore canceling out elevation cooling difficulty????

[@tracygraham5379]

Your reviews continue to confirm the the ridiculous opinions of Motortrend in their review of the Ranger Raptor. This truck should be a strong contender for Truck of the Year but they have already ruled that out by their prejudiced earlier comments. All other reviews have praised this truck for its’ complete capabilities and execution.

[@evoemperor3776]

It has the power but it doesn't have the suspension to handle heavy loads in fact it just tows as much as some 7 seater crossovers.

[@Kevin-xy3yr]

It's a Raptor! The Raptor brand vehicles are designed to off road and do it faster than any other vehicles available.

[@Jay-me7gw]

What 7 seat crossover tows 5500 lbs?

[@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel]

The Ford people will take anything to help them recover from the TFL toaster results of tremor vs new SST Ram. All of a sudden 60,000 dollars as a good deal for a mid-sized truck 😂

[@jonascampelo871]

Lots of noise from the engine, it was that loud before the tunning?

[@allentoyokawa9068]

I skip right past the ad

[@jrdorcak1478]

Would like to see the results of the2024 Ranger XLT FX4 4X4 with 3.2 ecoboost engine

[@mediocreman2]

17:43 Hairy in this context just means stressful or unnerving. Lairy in UK means loud or obnoxious. Leary means you are suspicious.

[@russelllooney129]

Need to do the new Ridgeline take it on the toaster test

[@billsanders3604]

Can’t find one in LA for MSRP. $10k over sticker is the lowest I’ve found. I wish dealers wouldn’t do that. Can’t justify the dealer markup.

[@mojorisin7371]

The motor may be able to handle this easily but I doubt that transmission and rear end will last long doing towing like this. These vehicles aren't really made for this. You go get a F-150 or heavier with a beefer rear end and transmission with the availability of the V8 or a dissel in the HD series trucks. I think light towing will be easily achieved but again I doubt the longevity. Proper preventative maintenance is critical and use only full synthetic lubricants and change often no more then 6k miles. I think Ford did a great job with the resigned Ranger and appreciate them listening to their customers with the addition of a V6 and the Raptor trim. I think Ford needs to add some more value and not skimp on basic things like rear passenger vents or hood struts to name a couple. Especially with the prices these trucks demand.

[@a456987]

Yes do a Toaster with the Defender

[@danb.709]

Some Colorado road cyclists have a straight up death wish. Determined to share the road and a cemetery.

[@DrSinisster]

I might buy a 2024 ZR2 Colorado. Anyone got good reason to tell me Im making a Mistake? Should I get the Ranger XLT or Tacoma Off Road instead?

[@adamg3911]

You did this same towing loop with the Raptor R correct?

[@lray801]

They've done it with an F150, new Ram, and a Silverado.

[@adamg3911]

@@lray801 I distinctly remember a uphill towing test with the raptor R not sure if it was the same towing loop though

[@LarryVeblungsnes]

Why do you guys say All Wheel Drive instead of 4WD. They are very different. The Ranger has Automatic 4WD not AWD.

[@MrTonaluv]

Controversial comment there 'Larry'. 4WD Auto is not 4WD in the old school sense as true 4WD cannot be used on hard surfaces ie. tarmac due to drive train wind-up/crabbing. 4WD Auto CAN be used on hard surfaces/sealed roads.

[@LarryVeblungsnes]

@@MrTonaluv Not so. A 4WD is a vehicle that can be 2WD and then shifted into 4WD, either manually or automatically. An AWD vehicle is always in a form of power supplied to the front and rear drive train. I never buy AWD vehicles, they are not tough enough for the off road abuse required for my needs.

[@americanrambler4972]

Can you get that “Tune kit” on lessor Ranger models?

[@MrTonaluv]

I very much doubt it

[@VARITHMS]

Yes. Ford performance has sold them for a long time

[@chrisUyehara]

20:26 ummm did the engine bay look like this before the test? The white water spots on the engine can indicate dried radiator fluid.

[@MalphMaisy]

The previous vid when TFL does the tune upgrade, the engine bay looked the same. Its splash back from running through water, crossing river etc.

[@1225KPH]

Warranty? Not unless it was professionally installed and it wasn't.

[@-_-_-_-318]

You mean like, plugged in? 😂

[@Ryan-719]

Do any of the ford 10spds have the gear indicator for what gear you are?

[@nequea.5539]

They do, check the left side of the driver screen, you can see during the towing it was showing the 3rd or 4th gear

[@diesel6916]

@TFL time to max out a Jeep Gladiator and send it up the toast

[@3rdpig]

I dream of living someplace where 91 is considered hot. Heck, a few degrees lower and my wife puts long sleeves on.

[@Jay-me7gw]

Where you live is probably not at 9000’ though. There is a lot less atmosphere between you and the sun at 9000’.

[@alexanderlacy4005]

People don’t realize how incredibly stupid it is to purchase an extended warranty, on a brand new vehicle! Think about it, you get a factory warranty with every new vehicle you purchase, essentially your going to have a defect show it’s ugly head within the first 20,000 miles, usually before the first 5,000 miles, but safely within the first 20,000 miles. Most new vehicles are already covered that far ahead with their factory warranty, so if you buy $1300 worth of “ peace of mind” and never need it, then essentially you have rebuilt a transmission that you didn’t need, and 9 times out of 10, they’re going to figure out a way to void that warranty you spent all that extra money on, and you wind up paying for the repairs out of pocket anyhow. Me: “transmission is slipping in my new truck!” Dealer: “you have a trailer hitch in your receiver, so your warranty is void!” Sounds far fetched but that really happened to me, very true story! If your gonna spend $1300 for pice of mind, put that money into a savings account every time you buy a new vehicle, and warranty your own vehicles your self, then you have even more piece of mind knowing your warranty won’t be voided, and know that money is in your pocket if you don’t ever need it, it’s your money, not making the CEO of granger even richer, with your hard earned money! Fun fact: I know that family, I sometimes fly them as their captain because they have a lease agreement with NatJet, a company I contact for, and they bought a $7 million dollar house in the uptown area of where I live, and tore it down to build a $70 million dollar bungalow in its place! That’s no joke! They’re making killer money, from their legal legit scam, called “warranty” they basically have a license to scam you legally! That is all it is!

[@reggiehucks1010]

Come on guys! Nobody sells this truck for 56,000 dollars! They are all marked up at the dealership. Some as much as 25,000.

[@smithjones1906]

I think I may be aware of one car that would fail this test unladen..

[@Mr.Worf63]

Very good test but, $83665CAD for a mid size truck is a crime. Good Work Guys!

[@ruigomes6778]

Love that truck, but the price is what most people can't afford.

[@seagullsbtn]

Try this with Tommy's Defender that's shadowing you.

[@ricatiman]

Conventional oil starts to break down above 250 degrees, and should not be maxed out past 300 F. Synthetics will increase the maximum temperature they can withstand easily by 50-100 degrees F. Modern V-8 race engines in NASCAR typically run oil temps of 300-400 F. with their race specific synthetics. Nobody in racing uses conventional oil, not since the 80's.

[@C-M-E]

I got into it with a guy in the comments section of a different channel (something I rarely do unless they are seriously misinformed) who was defending 10k oil changes because it's not 1960 anymore. This test brings that use case front and center. I don't care how good the oil tech has gotten, regular 240*+ engine temps and 300* trans temps on turbocharged engines will COOK vehicle fluids. Most people who use their trucks for hard use know to change fluids More Often, not less!

[@aerynlovell4754]

On LHT Performance John explains that when the engine oil passes through a hot turbo it cooks the oil and it breaks down faster. He changes oil more frequently on a track car because it is subjected to more extreme use. A truck used for towing should also get more frequent oil changes to prevent carbon build up in the engine. You don't want to leave the oil in until it starts to break down because then your engine isn't protected.

[@MrTonaluv]

Yeah but COME ON MAN. New synthetic oils are streets ahead of old oils from the 60's & even the 70's. You obviously don't know that.

[@aerynlovell4754]

@MrTonaluv It isn't about the oil. Modern engines use direct injection and turbos. Direct injection doesn't give the fuel as much time to mix with the air, like port injection, so there is more unburned fuel. Some of that unburned fuel is pushed down the walls of the combustion chamber by the high cylinder pressure of forced induction, past the rings, and into the oil. Now you have gas mixed with oil, and modern oils are designed to cling to contamination to prevent damage to all the moving metal components in the engine. But by changing your oil more often, you are getting rid of the contamination and protecting the metal parts, especially small parts like bearing & timing chains. Between higher levels of contamination (water, gas) and high heat from turbos their is a greater chance of carbon building up around valves and getting into the oil. Changing the oil more often doesn't hurt the engine, but dirty/contaminated oil will not protect the metal components.

[@C-M-E]

@@aerynlovell4754 Absolutely spot on. 👍

[@bertveldhuizen8699]

Why didn't you redo the Toyota Tacoma Hybrid at the same time to make it a fair comparison?

[@collinsimmons7156]

It has to be the same weight for all midsize trucks to be a comparison test otherwise it's a useless comparison.

[@jaylapointe1654]

500lbs isn't going to make that much of a difference.

[@kabloosh699]

I don't know. Going by what the manufacturer has rated the truck for seems fair to me. If the truck is rated at 7k then it should pass the test as a truck rated at 5k would.

[@stevessteve2920]

@@collinsimmons7156 its the max tow capacity test rated by the maker of the trucks

[@abegiesbrecht1148]

Take that lil Chinese BYD truck up the Toaster.

[@matthewgaines10]

Trucks fail this test because you are operating them outside of manufacturer’s recommendations. You should never tow max capacity at altitude.