Windmills, Gears and the Wind - Tutorial - Vintage Story

[@FalcoGer]

your first example, reviewed at 5:15, had the windmill turning the big gear using a small gear and using it to turn the long axle by converting speed to torque. The example you said would be the same at 5:45 turned the axle, on which there was a big gear. The big gear then transitioned to a small gear that in turn powered the helve hammer So the first one had a small gear to big gear and then back to a small gear (1:1), the second one a big gear to a small gear(not 1:1), so you had less torque (but more speed). Again at 16:57 if you pause and look at your setup, the contraption in the foreground goes small to large to hammer, the one in the background goes from large to small to hammer. Of course the rear one doesn't work, you try to run it at lower torque.

[@PapaCheddar]

Well unfortunately i made this video so long ago and haven't played VS in quite a while as well lol. So I can't speak knowledgeably about any of this any more 😂 I've forgotten pretty much everything. Don't know if the devs have changed gears around or not. When i made this i do at least recall them being very buggy and not quite right. But i appreciate you taking the time to watch the video and comment!

[@electrobob992]

Now here is a tutorial I hope to see someday... An in depth creative mode tutorial. Including all tools you can use to build, etc.

[@PapaCheddar]

I actually have that planned 😅 after a discord post i saw a while ago. Unfortunately all my plans have been pushed back a wee bit. But a creative mode tutorial is coming! Eventually! Lol

[@electrobob992]

@@PapaCheddar Awesome thank you. Sure the official video on the vintage story channel is nice, but sometimes you press a keybind you didn't know about and BAM something unexpected happens. Maybe even cover a basic modechange macro, which players use to switch between creative and survival to craft.. Seriously makes me wish we could access crafting without switching modes, even a creative only block or something. Though I know they do plan to replace the inventory crafting with an in-world variant.

[@PapaCheddar]

That's one of my biggest pet peeves with this game lol. No crafting grid in creative 😅 makes no sense!!!

[@electrobob992]

@@PapaCheddar Exactly, there really should be. I know we have the macro ability, but for modders and players it would make more sense to allow us to craft without the switching. Even a creative only crafting bench, heck there is a creative only furnace and crafting bench.. But neither work, when they really should.

[@PapaCheddar]

Haha too true 😂 I reckon the devs don't imagine too many folks are spending a lot of time in creative. Though heck these days i sure do haha. I don't know how hard it is to add into game but i feel like it can't be too arduous!

[@dobremarian1234]

I am the only one who thinks hedge hammers look like wooden cannons on the ground?

[@PapaCheddar]

Agreed aha. Can make a pirate ship and put these on the deck. Wish we actually had cannons...

[@crayonyum]

​@@PapaCheddar Industrial Warfare have cannons

[@PapaCheddar]

Dang mods have gotten crazy already haha thats dope

[@chaz2000000]

Omg just finished the kenshi series YOU PLAYED VINTAGE STORY BRO BRING IT BACK

[@PapaCheddar]

VS was what kick started my channel really aha. Eventually i will. But it needs more content 😂 I got burnt out hard and nothing new has been added that has drawn me back yet

[@ultimaheart4304]

also you can have 3-4 windmills in a square around one big gear to make up for loss of speed and power tons of things

[@PapaCheddar]

Maximum power input!!!

[@atroxie]

That's the setup I go for 1 full windmill each direction large gear in middle axles down to work area another large gear at bottom helve hammer etc connected directly to it each direction :)

[@ultimaheart4304]

@@PapaCheddar man if you had some public/private servers i might have to play on them with you XD lmao you seem fun

[@ultimaheart4304]

@@atroxie i also love putting 3 helves to one anvil. i cant usually keep up with the crazy speed and power they put into the blooms or plates XD

[@PapaCheddar]

That ain't a bad setup Colin 🤪 i do enjoy how the quadramill looks aesthetics wise too lol. I've never done the 3 helves to one anvil technique myself, but i imagine it is quite efficient 🤣. Shoot i shoulda put that into the video! I ran a server for my discord members not too long ago lol, had like 5 or 6 cats on there. Was a lot of fun! And i used to play on Aura Fury which is a great community. Though it's been some time since I've done any multiplayer lol

[@candiddirt]

I still use the system I saw on a title screen background. Nice combination of a single anvil with 3 helve hammers smacking it. 👍

[@PapaCheddar]

That's a solid route to take! I forgot to even put that in the video lol 😅 but it's a smart move!

[@stick3013]

If you want it to be faster place big gear first then small gear it'll go faster like this Windmill-big gear-small gear I learned this from create mod from mc

[@PapaCheddar]

Worth a try for sure 😊

[@m00n119]

great tutorial this really helped me understand why my setup was terrible :P and now i think i know how to fix it :D

[@PapaCheddar]

That's awesome! I'm really glad that my incoherent rambling could help 😜 lol

[@lukusblack6442]

Nice tutorial. I've spend a very long time trying to get those things running right. I've gotten a helve hammer to work exactly once, on your server. I've never had use for a... smasher... thomper... thingie... I usually only use them for querns, and a bunch of them have been pinwheels on sticks, with no building. rofl

[@PapaCheddar]

Function over fashion huh 🤣 It really isn't fully necessary to even use mechanical power, got avenues to accomplish everything without em. As far as i know anyway lol.

[@lukusblack6442]

@@PapaCheddar The quern is easy enough. Just set it to run, and turn my mouse off while I go for a smoke. lol

[@PapaCheddar]

Haha 🤣 I've been there. Though i use something to weight down the mouse button. Didn't even think of turning off mouse. Drop a chest above the quern and you could be there for a while

[@lukusblack6442]

@@PapaCheddar With a funnel... right? Or do you need one?

[@PapaCheddar]

The funnel i think does work. A straight chute works too im pretty sure. Less mats too i think with chute. Keep some hoppers on the ground too and let that puppy overflow!

[@ultimaheart4304]

my issue with the break is you never know when the wind is blowing unless you climb your windmill tower.

[@PapaCheddar]

The break just seems so buggy 😂 and useless imo

[@ultimaheart4304]

@@PapaCheddar agreed. its a nice idea if it didnt stop the windmill too. like the clutch should be the break at the same time. XD or atleast have a break to "slow things down" if its going too fast and might "break" itself

[@PapaCheddar]

That'd be an interesting mechanic lol. I much prefer clutch and transmission, though i seldom use even those 😅 Brake could prob have some uses unknown to me, but i feel like they should rework it a bit perhaps?

[@ultimaheart4304]

@@PapaCheddar ofcourse. i mean at some point we should be able to start and stop things in the steam era, or atleast get us a wind indicator thingy for windmill stuff. i hope even in the steam era we can use windmills, but maybe a stronger version? with metal axels or something?

[@PapaCheddar]

@@ultimaheart4304 give us a windsock 😂 fancy new technology! Lol. I can't wait for steam. I love the looks of gears everywhere and that era's vibes. Going to be so cool lol. Feel like windmill will become mid game with steam engines powering everything late game. Unless of course ya want to stick with a windmill.

[@Ivanalager]

👀 was that MATH Papa Cheddar was doing?! LOL I power one helve hammer with a transmission so I don't have to listen to bang...bang.. all day long. Otherwise I haven't found a use for the power. Making steel seems too laborious and querns are too easy to just grind some flour that I'm going to use right away. OH, make a vid on the water wheels! I started one and called it quits.

[@PapaCheddar]

My arch nemesis!!! 🤣 Evil, vile maths!!! Lol That's a good idea aha. I used to just move the anvil when i had my first mill and didn't use transmission yet haha. Those bangs... Oh god... Haha. You should make it! I haven't seen one about water wheels yet. Guessing from the medieval mod? Whatever it's called lol

[@Shaso1000]

Whoever invented the snooze button must have been really bad at getting up in the morning.

[@DT64Duane]

Great tutorial PC.......Thumbs Up

[@PapaCheddar]

Thanks! Hopefully my inaudible mumbles made even kind of sense lol

[@salvadorcabrera4941]

thx fr tutorial

[@PapaCheddar]

No problem! Glad it could help.

[@Brigtzen]

Big help, even a year later ^_^

[@PapaCheddar]

I'm glad! But be warned, i don't know if all the updates since this video have changed anything.

[@jusmeeheer4589]

Thanks, great tutorial! Wouldn't the max beneficial height be Y-170 though?

[@PapaCheddar]

Depends what your sea level is really. I wanna say that depending on what you set world height to, it'll change. Don't quote me on that though lol. I could,be totally wrong.

[@voodooozo3755]

It's pretty annoying when You build everything correctly, connect the axle to from large gear to the hammer or grinder and it works very fast for a second and then stops. What an annoying bug considering how much effort goes into creating those on survival.

[@PapaCheddar]

I agree. It can usually be fixed by breaking an axel and putting it back. Def not a finished product though 😅

[@voodooozo3755]

@@PapaCheddar I discovered something funny. I had no way of making one large gear with two windmills Connected to it work properly. At first I could use them and small gears to power quern and make it work very fast. After a few changes I wasnt able to do that anymore and it just stopped. I had similiar problems with running even one helve hammer. They were either too damn slow and didnt work at all. In the end I managed to make both quern and 2 helve hammer work at reasonably high speeds at once. One of the windmills is connected to the middle of large gear, either from the bottom or from the top, using axle and gears. The second windmill is connected to the side of the large gear with normal gear. Im not sure if I understand it correctly, but the game may think that one Mill produces slow rotation which is torgue and the other produces fast rotation which gives it speed. Dunno why it works but it works well haha.

[@PapaCheddar]

Nice haha. Sounds like it shouldn't work 🤣 but all logic is already out of the window. End of the day. if it works, it works. Don't question it!

[@Jakukito]

Did you know if I can build this windmills into a mountain? Cause I would like to build a city into a mountain and don't want to have this windmills on the top of a mountain :D thanks and nice video :)

[@PapaCheddar]

Nice dwarven windmill 🤪 In my testing having blocks around the blades did not stop it. So it should work fully enclosed. There have been a fair bit of updates since this video though. But i think the only factor you gotta watch for is relation to sea level. Glad it could help!

[@Jakukito]

@@PapaCheddar yeah... I really want to have watermill or steam engine but well... 😂 Allright when I will test it. Thanks a lot :)

[@PapaCheddar]

I've been hoping for steam power for ages 😂 eventually... Maybe... Haha Hope it goes smoothly! On creative world you could test it in a few minutes!

[@Jakukito]

So... I tested it. Doesn't work :/ crap....

[@PapaCheddar]

Really? Thats interesting... Are you certain the wind was blowing? That would mean they've changed stuff. Didn't see it in any update logs. But I could've missed it.

[@bugermeister]

A little out of your depth eh? I think you get enough of the point across for someone who was completely clueless to get some of an understanding and get their own windmills going. It is a pretty intense topic, with gear ratios, torque, and MATH, can you believe it, math in your video games! Enjoying the VS tutorial spree your doing regardless!

[@PapaCheddar]

Haha like a fish out of water 🤣 i just know that it works! I'm glad you've been enjoying them! Thank you

[@ethannowlen2083]

ive seen alot of tutorials where they try to be a little silly in there somewhere, but its always forced and cringe. i like it in this video though. i had a little chuckle when he started talking about how impractical one of his designs were.

[@PapaCheddar]

Thanks man aha thats awesome. As a disclaimer for this video though it may not be accurate anymore. Lord knows what updates have changed. I been out of the VS game a hot minute.