Maya is NOT okay | Wine About It

[@QTCinderella]

OMG I WANT TO WIPE THAT FREAKING MASSCARA OFF MY EYELID MAYA IS A BAD FRIEND FOR NOT TELLING ME

[@raah1_]

don't worry qt we didn't notice

[@leahcarnevale7340]

Literally only noticed when I went to check after seeing this comment ...

[@FirStNamez]

We did not notice until now

[@jurgen951]

Thanks, can't unsee it now

[@jackofall9756]

Topics were too interesting for us to focus on mascara

[@blankspace0000]

"Maya goes down an internet rabbit hole" is my new favorite segment of the podcast lmao

[@viptakozedginidze]

Same!!! ❤❤

[@Henschmen38]

"Maya deconstructs an alt-right pipeline" segment is not something I knew that I wanted, but it turns out I do. Very well spoken and clear communication for being mostly off the cuff on a podcast, love to see it :)

[@seankaiser2505]

Maya explained the pipeline to radicalization very well

[@FluffyFluffles]

Yeah it was a perfect description of how my sister went from a normal Bernie supporter to anti-vaxxer to Qanon.

[@devonwilliams2423]

I can’t agree more, not only did she realise firsthand that she was being fed misinformation, but before taking action sheet, crowd, sourced her With scepticism And with that scepticism, she won’t even deeper, looking for information, unbiased, organised it And most importantly, she brought it to one of the largest audiences on KZbin, knowing that she could easily be made fun of Butt, like a teacher, she is, she knew that truth, incredibly important Before I get a touch grass comment, the concept of changing peoples minds, but the inability to change it back, the idea of taking a good intention person and turning them to a radical racist is incredibly terrifying and I know exactly what she means when she says that There’s a good percentage that some people watching this video will be served and Adè that will be a part of that pipeline

[@spintowin5537]

That is an understatement

[@DJKr15py]

Maya unbelievably based 1000IQ gigabrain.

[@crazedmichi]

Completely agree. My sister fell into this pipeline from her mommy groups and mommy blogs during covid. Used to be pretty normal in her ideas, and now she talks about wild conspiracy theories. I constantly hear from my mom how worried she is because she sounds completely crazy.

[@thechin5523]

No joke, Maya broke down this pipeline so perfectly, and QT perfectly added to it by how we can all be affected by it too.

[@j-wenning]

I was really concerned when Maya mentioned the birth control algorithm business initially because of how I've been made aware of the right wing extremist pipeline. The fact that she was able to notice it without external influence and learn as much about it in a few hours is impressive and inspiring. It took me years, and I wasn't even particularly radicalized. I still regularly have to correct and account for some of my preconceived notions in day-to-day life that come about because of it.

[@DreamskyDance]

I mean depends on the type of person i guess. I engage with various extreme content just to see what the loonies ( on the right and left respectfully ) have to say and never have fallen into radicalization pipeline. Maybe because i am not from US but from EU and my country had a colorful history in last 30 years and have been there to see it, so any public or media person or politician saying something i can deconstruct it and see the rhetoric and the core principles behind the rhetoric. For example, Jordan Peterson has his rhetoric and it is coated in a lot of widely known self-help principles known for decades, but his core principles are to bring about the theocratic and freedom constricted society. Now, you dont recognize this right away because he says some things that can stand on their own and are actually good advice ( this are known slef-help and psychological principles that sound smart and are true, but people are droning about them for decades now ), but slowly you fall into the rabbit hole and it tricks you to accept his core principles without him ever mentioning them explicitly. As i said, i saw many people on the public scene in my developing country doing exact same thing so i know it when i see it. Advice i would give to people so they can spot this more easily is that you have to recognize rhetoric and take it for what it is, learn to differentiate it from regular speech and promoting some ideas someone believes in, learn to deconstruct it. Genuinely watch and engage with content that you do not agree with just so you can learn to spot it, watch some Petersons ( or any of other clowns ) speeches for example and approach to it as a scientist deconstructing a topic of research, like archeologist or a historian would do for their topic of interest. And then you will see that everybody uses the same discourse and rhetoric tricks and methods to push their agenda, and suddenly you can recognize it everywhere. Sorry for wall of text but i hope it helps somebody to train their mind against those kind of stuff...

[@__Henry__]

@@DreamskyDance This comment is for you too, j-wenning. I agree that rhetorical criticality is a generally reliable way to protect oneself from influence of radicalizing propaganda. (see resource paragraph below) One thing I notice about Maya that you, j-wenning, may not see is her perhaps deep sense of criticality, for examples being atheist, not being afraid of skin-walker stories, disbelief in ghosts, emphasizing she knows little about what she talks about, that things are complex. There is a way to consider and reconsider what one hears and reads so to build a sense of belief that is much less vulnerable to (and less reliant on) outside influence. That way is called critical rationality, and it's a skill that can be developed (without even much difficulty, really). One is left with a more stable world view, generally, though not necessarily absolutely (because very few world views are, imo.) DreamskyDance, interesting analysis of Peterson's rhetoric. I haven't heard it described in this way, and your way makes sense of the sort of "conservative" flavors I pick up of him and I think hear other people mentioning that he has. He supposes this sort of philosophically religiously grounded moral principle that is sort of plainly but not necessarily explicitly expressed. For me, it's hard to spot the priors he works with to reason out his conclusions. And so I'm not sure how to receive or respond to at least some of his conclusions. Sometimes they seem okay, but maybe only as historical reporting? Idk; I know I'm speaking vaguely about his speech as though everything he says is sort of one thing, which of course it's not. Anyway. Resource: I posted a couple links in response to seankaiser2505's comment that offer practical advice for orienting to a critical sense of mind especially for this internet culture many of us we live in. Here they are, again: When critical thinking isn't enough: to beat information overload, we need to learn 'critical ignoring' theconversation.com/when-critical-thinking-isnt-enough-to-beat-information-overload-we-need-to-learn-critical-ignoring-198549 To navigate the dangers of the web, you need critical thinking - but also critical ignoring theconversation.com/to-navigate-the-dangers-of-the-web-you-need-critical-thinking-but-also-critical-ignoring-158617

[@TheTrueiceking]

my biggest tip if youre on social media and someone tells you something thats scary about the world, talk to a real person about it, dont go on another social media because all it does is spiral you thanks to the algorithm

[@user-th1pv6ks5o]

Honestly fact check it, if your only by people who also believe in that, talking to a "real person" won't do anything. DEFINITELY DEFINITELY don't continue to go on social media about it, but look up a study, or more importantly a systemic study (the ones where they look at ALL the data and come to a conclusion about stuff) and look at how they conducted the study, and even look up the systems and processes on why the decisions get made the way they do. I recently had to do this with weather or not Sex ed is good, and came to a article to the white house against it, that only had sex ed and trans issued, only had a couple of studies on sex ed, not even trans people, on the site, and took me to a cult looking thing with S.M.I.L.E. as like the system they were proposing, then when I tried to click on a study it didn't work. You would think if it was a legitimate site, they would update their links to not use Adobe flash. Even video game sites like New grounds, and Cool math games updated when flash left and a supposedly "real" program with "real" studies backing their claim didn't???

[@Noooiiiissseee]

People on social media ARE real people. They're people at their realest, when they can say what they actually think without real-life scrutiny.

[@ActionScripter]

@@Noooiiiissseee That's missing the real issue. They're real people, yes - the most scandalous possible subset of people that the algorithm selects because they get a lot of views and engagement. It's not the same as talking to an average person face-to-face. It's a biased selection served up to keep you glued to the screen. That's going to skew the results horribly.

[@__Henry__]

@@Noooiiiissseee Scrutiny can be valuable and can be even very valuable.

[@Noooiiiissseee]

@@__Henry__ Sure. It can also be extremely pointless, pedantic, and used by clowns who have no business opening their mouths.

[@pawnshopblues]

Maya should look into the 1960s counter-culture hippie to Reagan Republican pipeline. Very similar, just a lot slower before the accelerationism of social media.

[@yungguattari4924]

Ah, yeah, that small tiny little difference that swifts people between swearing upon Reagan's bible or healing with crystals.

[@antlerbraum2881]

One day you’re at Woodstock singing about ending the war in Vietnam the next you’re a suburban landowner with a disdain for drug dealing ‘thugs’.

[@shittysashimi5184]

OMG i had no idea this was a thing, i need to research that. i always wondered where are all the punks and hippies who ruled the 60s-80s and why are their views simingly so absent in their generation today. tbh i used to think they've just all overdosed.

[@Kevinofrepublic]

Yeah. The hippies failed to save the world and then grew up and came into wealth, religion, and politics. One or any combination of the 3. They became the 70-90 year olds we know now

[@MJ-xz8mi]

Yeessss thisss!!!!

[@wnabi8469]

crucial tip: if you are about to make a significant life decision and your reasoning is anything related to tiktok… you should reevaluate

[@saoirsetoad]

not even just necessarily reevaluate, just dont take it as the full package. talk to your doctor/ loved ones etc; social media can be useful in the initial stages for exposing you to something you might want to consider (changing birth control for example), but should absolutely only be a bouncing-off point, not the whole picture.

[@barcancelN2]

Maya out here exposing the TikTok trad wife psyop

[@PotatoGawds]

Maya the GOAT

[@CheyenneNKStone]

Love to see it

[@disparous]

Honestly the QAnon pipeline is so scary, my grandma fell down the hole during the pandemic and at some point got into the ~alien mysticism~ branch of it. Its as crazy as it sounds. But its gotten so much into her head that she wouldn’t even physically be around me after I got vaccinated bc she was convinced I was emanating “spike proteins” of the virus. Yeah idfk. Thank you guys for talking about this and generally discussing internet safety.

[@CheyenneNKStone]

Yeah, my mother was never super progressive. But, I've noticed after the pandemic she got much worse about like everything. My uncle even more so. And same thing, she's ended up at the aliens.

[@jacobmcglue5996]

I feel like Hasan is going to be sad when he hears they did a Q-Anon episode without inviting him.

[@agoodnoodle999]

Not sure if they talk about this a bit later in the episode, but I would like to say (before i forget) that censorship/removing content that spreads misinformation and fearmongering is not the only way to prevent people from going down the pipeline. Education, teaching children critical thinking skills and how to navigate the internet without believe everything, is also a very effective tool to combat this. Obviously not 100%, but nothing is. Love you guys 🥰

[@DarkStoneMiner]

This is why it's important to note the right's attacks on education. They're desperate to dumb down the populace to make it easier to radicalize them towards things that are against their own interest.

[@Jj82op]

Sadly similar people and politically adjecent follwers ( on the right ) are making excuses to avoid sending children to schools, even random political comentators that should never be around children.

[@dominoot2652]

Yes, educate your parents and show them trustworthy bits of media before this stuff finds them. Thoughtful, quality, informed education is always the answer!

[@taylifts]

I read a post recently that went like "the reason why we have people with engineering degrees falling for conspiracy theories is bc they thought gen eds were stupid and now people don't have basic reading comprehension and critical thinking skills" and my mind was blown with how spot on that was

[@Grizzleburrr]

im of the opinion that it should NOT be censored and removed. agoodnoodle said it as well that it should be taught to think for ones self and to use research, knowledge, and experience rather than trust of others words first. the censorship, removal and even banning of certain topics and words will only radicalize those who already believe in it, and draw in more attention to the topic as it could in it self, become a conspiracy theory that due to it being censored, it must be true. its also an inherently bad idea to censor any topic as who decides what is and isnt allowed? it is a dangerous and slippery slope.

[@hayleyaitken5985]

QT YOUR CORSET IS SO FUCKING CUTE! Also, so excited for the bug gala and maya’s presentation!

[@elora512]

It's so pretty! Garden fairy vibes

[@raah1_]

EXACTLY SHE LOOKS INCREDIBLE

[@mattydems]

Maya’s thoughts about the wellness -> QAnon pipeline would have been a great convo to have with Hasan

[@dj_daem0n]

Yeah, but that would require talking to him. Eww.

[@DreamskyDance]

He is deep in another pipeline so it would not be so great, i mean i am not saying "his pipeline" is good or bad just that it is another type of echo chamber and radicalization. I am pretty leftist and i've seen him giving statements and demonizing stuff that are not "right wing pipeline" stuff, just look that way from his vantage point. ...oh, and i am not from US but EU, so my political definitions vary because i had different experiences and am in different environment. For example, free health care is not something connected to socialism but something that is normal to have in a country. But on the other hand, unions are bloated and corrupt organizations that help themselves and give bare minimum to the worker, id rather have government regulate companies more for the benefit of worker so the unions are abolished and dont exist because they are a dead weight and remnant from real socialism which is pretty bad, a lot worse than capitalism ( i have personal experience and tons of experiences of others to back that claim up.. ).

[@mwalter98]

how do you want to achieve that? its usually easier to organize and fix union than to get government to do those things

[@mwalter98]

also are you leftist in a sense you’re a liberal or actual marxist?

[@DariusCarv]

@@mwalter98the fact they don’t like socialism that much means they’re just a liberal

[@raah1_]

I'm ecstatic for the bug gala! I can't wait for it. my friends hate bugs and they've killed almost all my bug friends and to see maya talking so passionately about em makes me so happy

[@VectorRabbit]

Are they your friends if they're killing your bugs? D:

[@andreabrown1787]

I was propagandized to stop taking BC and a month later I got pregnant and because I live in Texas I had to travel to Colorado to get an abortion... it was just a really sad and inconvenient lapse in judgment on my part

[@dannnnn4]

ScaredAboutIt

[@katz4248]

One of the books the professor of my last English class assigned was "Ten Arguments for Deleting Your Social Media Accounts Right Now" by Jaron Lanier. I highly recommend it for anyone wanting to explore and learn more about conspiracy pipelines and in general why people do the things they do that you may not understand. Maya did a god job summarizing it, one thing I would like to add is that, for social media companies (advertisers) negative engagement is much more effective at keeping someone on a platform than positive. Try and keep that mind whenever you see something radical/triggering show up on your feed.

[@__Henry__]

I love me some Jaron. That's cool your read him for class.

[@CrazyCatMan13]

My mom, 2006: take what you see online with a grain of salt. Mayo, 2023: take what you see online with a grain of salt.

[@nunker66]

For how little digging Maya did for the Q story, she pretty much nailed the whole operation. Good stuff!

[@Fleshdeficiency]

Maya got hit with that tik tok brain rot.

[@gracebrown5929]

Let's appreciate how beautiful Qt is in her corset 😭

[@nesyk1598]

Right it's such a cute top

[@grantdotjpg]

I will never appreciate beauty I vote to get rid of cutie sinderela

[@toasty5032]

​@@grantdotjpgCinderella*

[@grantdotjpg]

@@toasty5032 it's also qt, but who's counting

[@wowowo9522]

I need Maya to reveal the products that she uses on her hair, or how she takes care of it because it always looks beautiful! I've also been living with unmanagable hair all my life, nothing seems to help!

[@wowowo9522]

Also QT, I have to say that your are soo beautiful!

[@PeachFps]

Wet your hair to check your curl pattern and check your porosity ( you put a strand of your hair in water, look up a vid on it) and then find people with your same curl pattern and porosity to take tips and develop your routine from there.. also eating well + drinking lots of water is the baseline for healthy hair.

[@pdxdash]

This is an incredible episode, the subject matter is incredibly difficult to tackle and you all made it so digestible!

[@eeeeerrrrr1851]

Omg that corset is too die for ❤ QT please look at butterfly dresses from designer Chung Thanh Phong. They would go so well for your Gala

[@SarcasticGoose]

Maya just described the entire point of the phrase "no one is immune to propaganda" If you think you are, you are already fooled.

[@x3dfritz0]

Maya had me scared a little during the first part of this episode, all the talk about spiraling and then her big topic was the Qanon pipeline, for a hot minute i was wondering if Maya was the one that fell into the black hole instead of just reporting on it 😂

[@lexia7179]

Bro my cousin is a HUGE believer in QANON and it caused terrible problems within our family. He fell into this groups spiral and started posting awful and horrid Facebook posts about “a storm” coming and when family ask what he was referring to he would become very defensive and lash out. Crazy that you two are talking about this cause holy shit did this shit tear my family apart 😂

[@lexia7179]

But none the less I love that you guys are speaking about it bc it’s very scary.

[@sarraphinasorrow]

I’m so glad maya brought this up, it’s been something I’ve been talking about for a long time. Since roe v wade got overturned, all womens algorithms has turned to this. The anti birth control is the start. It’s wild

[@saoirsetoad]

this is so interesting, i live in the UK so haven’t been exposed to this. i wonder why that is? like, a kinda chicken-or-egg situation? i have to imagine that women are getting this sort of thing in certain areas because other women in those areas are getting them, but i just wonder how many women in those demographics are actively seeking out that content vs just getting served it

[@sarraphinasorrow]

@@saoirsetoad in my personal opinion, it’s being served to women in America more because our birth rate is in decline. Birthing a child is expensive, your baby is born into debt basically from day one. Even with good insurance. And then there’s no support for mothers or children besides some food assistance and that’s only if you are at a very low yearly income. Jobs don’t like to give maternity level. Mental health care for new mothers is lacking. Women in America, black women even more so, have a higher fatality rate during birth than you’d think. And now we have no right to abortion. So they terrorize you off birth control, then they start selling you an ideal that isn’t very obtainable for most of us. Its…very dark sided. A lot of these women are religious and it’s a big thing in the church to make a new generation of tithers basically. It’s a really long conversation. But it mostly boils down to propaganda for capitalism. Need new human capital to replace the dying off human capital.

[@777kelly]

Oh shit! I didn’t even put two and two together but you’re 100% right. I started seeing all that content after roe v wade was overturned 🤯

[@catscandance1232]

Loveeee the topic today. As someone into environmentalism/health/agriculture many times trad-wife content is mixed into it. For example a post saying “I want to live off grid, fully self sufficient with my own permaculture organic farm and livestock, (awesome! But then they continue with) and live with my foreign blonde wife who I pump with seed every month and we have 12 kids, her mind hasn’t been infected by modern ideals, she is a pure woman deserving of my constant sacrifice for the family. (Meanwhile OP has never even hunted before) shit like that. Sad really. Also about the bc thing.,,,I also saw those TikTok’s…made me question things as an 18y/o girl, but it’s more important for me to be on it right now than to not be. Very true to take everything with a pinch of salt

[@murtadhaAlhusne]

using protection better than not sis

[@__Henry__]

And valuable to take things too with "critical ignorance!"

[@truegreen7]

I am genuinely proud of how relatively rational Maya is.

[@anikap8180]

Never thought I’d see truegreen7 in a Wine About It comment section - love your vids, man 💜

[@Presnix324]

Maya did a great job explaining something that she said she only researched briefly. One of my close friends parents are QAnon, and came from a very heavy wellness+spiritual background. Full belief that trump is going to save everyone, which is so weird when they're not even American. Born and raised in Australia... The hard part about social media propaganda and misinformation, is that outrageous (and often false) stories spread so far so quickly, but any correction struggles to make it to a small fraction of people. We really havent been taught how to deal with having so much information at our fingertips, and how to filter out the bullshit.

[@diego_simons]

Maya opened me to a completely new perspective. Until now i was pretty confident that the conservative pipeline to radicalization was pretty much only targetting men, at least in the means of tiktok and yt shorts, with the likes of tate, "alpha males", "owning libs" and other figures. Even I fall victim of one of those clips randomly after a couple scrolls, and i dont subscribe to any of the sort. I even thought that viral conservative female figures were mainly targeting men, like your typical "pick me" girl. I was completely unaware that there was a similar push in women's tiktoks trying to pull them in to the rabbit hole too, using the "traditional" feminine way of life to counter feminism.. It seems everyone can fall prey of this. Ladies gotta be on the lookout too.

[@Bobington11]

There's been a huge resurgence of trad wife content since Roe vs. Wade was repealed. All of it with religious undertones and backing.

[@viptakozedginidze]

Ngl i love this episode, im so glad y’all decided to upload it instead of scrapping it or uploading only on patreon!

[@kayzoomin]

This is so interesting and Maya is so well versed on this topic and explained it so well. Theres lots of people who work in this field and debunking misinformation, or working in deradicalization. Would love for you to talk more about this!

[@kayzoomin]

QT hit the nail on the head about there being a small aspect that is true but it gets surrounded by crazier or untrue ideas. That's part of what makes conspiracy theories find a foothold

[@wispathyst1524]

I think that these pipelines are so easy to fall into because they’re presented along with “proof” that makes the reader feel that they don’t need to do their own research because the proof is there already. I think this happens on both the left and the right, but regardless what side it’s on it polarizes the people to where one side feels that the other can’t or won’t understand them which creates a barrier to communication to educate one another and just worsens the problem.

[@sarasillydinosaur2561]

My husband works so much and doesn’t have time for politics so when his algos push right wing stuff to him I’m the one with strong opinions pushing a leftist agenda 😢

[@DJ-vg1pr]

NTA, divorce him

[@sarasillydinosaur2561]

Maybe I should clarify the 😢 is sarcastic I like re-educating him lol

[@Devin1364]

@@DJ-vg1pr you have an insane persons take

[@chronnyc]

@@DJ-vg1pr saying to divorce someone over having different values is crazy

[@alexknight81]

​@@chronnycdifferent values is not relevant when said values are dangerous to other people imo, but that's just me

[@dominoot2652]

I have thought also about if I can kindof prevent conspiracy type rabbit holes as well, and I’ve come up with the fact that I feel like one of the best things to do is to send those people the media that YOU consume. To some degree I have parents that are in the target demographic for these things. My dad will see some very weird dieting misinformation, like “eating cucumbers is bad for men’s testosterone!”, or that most veggies are bad for you because if lectin or something, so you shouldn’t eat vegetables. Since his generation didn’t have access to good nutritional education, these are sometimes the first “sciencey sounding” commentaries on nutrition, and so it’s very easy to fall in. So send stuff to your parents. Articles. Preemptively show them the correct information, and educate them in media literacy, criticality, profit motives of grifting and shit, and teach them correct information, to the best of your ability.

[@justzip3137]

Maya is describing The Social Dilemma documentary on Netflix almost exactly without seeing it.

[@luckygnome2746]

There was a medical show where they discussed how to treat belief in conspiracy theories and the conclusion was we can’t do that yet. 😭😭

[@Bobington11]

It is treatable and the approach is similar to cult deprogramming, but the big difficulty is that it's a lot more time consuming to debunk nonsense than to spew more of it. It's also very focused on the individual so doing it at scale is basically impossible.

[@felipetavares2445]

I really like how this is the only podcast where people wait until each other have fully finished a thought before speaking.

[@alex7435]

You know its a good podcast when youtube adds a QAnon context warning

[@Artofcarissa]

Birth control is crazy how different the side effects are. The only ones that don’t give me side effects are ones that don’t have any benefits; I still got hormonal acne, cramps, bloating etc from them. I switched to one type of BC that was supposed to help with my hormonal acne but it gave me AWFUL migraines to the point where I vomited one time and spent the entire day in bed feeling sick. I got the arm implant and that made me crazy depressed and suicidal. I currently have a Kyleena IUD and while I occasionally get cramps that are sharp and localized in their pain, it beats the other bad side effects I’ve gotten

[@secretsmp]

Caroline Kwan has talked about her issues with birth control on her stream several times.

[@christianflora2316]

Birth control can cause issues due to hormonal changes, but it does help a lot of women

[@gabbyissleeping]

​@@christianflora2316 it's funny because it hurt me and helped me. the pill was awful (hives and mood swings) but nexplanon is amazing for my body

[@gubgub3275]

Absolute massive respect for not immediately mocking accents. Way to go guys!

[@arkain1]

This is incredible. I thought a Wine About Politics episode could only happen if Hasan is the special guest, but Maya did a good job with her research!

[@javiermeneses8250]

I´ve been avoiding social media for a few years now and I genuinely believe that my life is better for it. They are made to pull you in once you glance at it so its very hard to leave them if you keep opening them even once in a while. You just have to go cold turkey and log out of everything. I actually work sometimes with instagram so I have to minimize my interactions with it and just consider it a part of my job. I don't get paid to keep scrolling so if I'm done I HAVE to log out. Right now I'm pretty addicted to youtube but I don't feel that bad about it, if you are really critical of who you follow and manually hide videos in your main page that you know are low quality crap or obviously have an agenda (about anything), you can effectively keep the algorithm in check. Just keep it about your tastes and hobbies. Shorts are more problematic but still doable.

[@__Henry__]

Beware, the influence of the algorithm is inescapable and formidably powerful. If you're using it, you're influenced. But I agree and commend, exercise the control one has.

[@kayladavidson2518]

having never been on tiktok it’s really helpful when people cover the ways it can introduce you to content you wouldn’t have normally seen while making you think everyone else has those same views and funneling you down this path you wouldn’t have taken by yourself and also having taken birth control since 17 there is a tiny voice in the back of my mind saying that i’ve taken it throughout my whole adulthood and perception and trauma and maybe i’m not even me and maybe it stunted my development or exacerbates my mood anxiety etc and it makes me doubt myself sometimes so i can EASILY see how a small nudge from tiktok can make you believe that voice honestly but major props to being skeptical and doing further research; the most susceptible people are ones who are easily influenced and having a hard time in one way or another and they latch onto a community to be supported and included as a result

[@Ray-zy7vb]

i really enjoyed this episode a lot. i know you guys prolly don’t want to veer into topics like this a lot but i certainly enjoyed it

[@andreajoan7193]

Sometimes I yearn for the time I didn't know about Qanon. I blame Hasan for my brain rot on the reg. I envy QT for barely even knowing about Jan 6th. And my thoughts and prayers go out to Maya. I'm so sorry you found out about all this.🙏😬

[@antlerbraum2881]

Honestly I feel like I’ve even gone further than what Hasan has covered, I’m incredibly interested by this type of stuff but it’s definitely given me brain worms.

[@Fleshdeficiency]

Nobody should know about the Obamas secretly being transgender.

[@andreajoan7193]

Actually same. There's a podcast or 2 I listen too, and I wish I could stop lol.@@antlerbraum2881

[@murtadhaAlhusne]

overall i agree with Hassan and his believes but i stopped watching him and cuz of the brain rot sadly my brain can't handle that much of it anymore, but i love him and his boyfriend Austin that guy is cool

[@xCheatah]

@@murtadhaAlhusne lmao me too

[@jrdnanitsua]

This week on wine about it, Qanon iceberg and next week a very specific island. We hitting the hard topics these days 😂😂. Loving the content btw keep it up unexpected but welcomed 😂😂

[@antlerbraum2881]

Been loving this genre of thumbnails.

[@mwalter98]

great episode, looking forward for your review of „Manufacturing Consent”!

[@ijust820]

This episode is very controversial in the sense that they are tackling a topic that is massive and can't be solved in a day, but I think its good to call it out when you see it cause there are absolutely other people seeing the same kind of stuff on the internet and don't know what to think about it.

[@surfingthedarkness]

I already love this episode bc it has the "Context" thing linking the QAnon Wikipedia article 😂

[@NutakuF2P]

Love this pod, listen to it everyday at the gym. 🙌

[@camponotusedd2959]

Every time i watch wine about it i get ads for ozempic and antidepressants

[@ThePetalesharo]

Good episode, but I can tell QT really wasn't feeling herself. Dissociation sucks, but just know if you need to not do an episode because you're feeling horrible (or rather nothing) then that's fine. Your health and wellness comes first. I hope you get some breakthroughs soon QT, keep fighting!

[@ZacTurn34]

OH MY GOD. The radicalization of everything on social media (especially Instagram) is so true. Not even just politics, everything. Awwww, you like dogs? Here’s a cute dog page. Aww, you like that dog page? Here’s a dog getting rescued. Awwww, you like that dog getting rescued? Here’s a big dog rescue. Awww you like that dog rescue? Here’s a video of a dog getting eaten by a crocodile as everyone screams bloody murder and sobs. Enjoy!!! (This actually happened to me)

[@elora512]

Me with cute babies, but it always leads me down to right-wing news, I guess it somewhat links to traditional family values

[@eli.vzq464]

I love how there’s a QAnon info bubble thing under this, nice

[@kailichtverschlinger1612]

The thumbnails keep getting better 😂 I love this pod ❤

[@markothomas9765]

I love listening the audio version but QT's expressions and bits makes the video so much better

[@townfool4682]

I LOVE QT's top. Edit: also holy shit Maya's deep dive is so fascinating, this is wild

[@lmichelle88]

Ok but I MUST know where QT’s shirt is from - it’s beautiful!

[@angeldannyso]

One of the best podcast episodes. More of us young people need to talk about the crazy stuff in world

[@miniciominiciominicio]

QT your top is so cute, fresh, and flowery. idk I love it. Wish I had the body to rock that lol you look incredible! Still loving Maya’s red hair. Such a great choice for you!

[@xCheatah]

maya should keep doing segments or episodes like these, they're really informative and well done

[@Horchata4lyfe]

Glad to know I have as much ADHD as Qt because I followed that entire Mormon to missionary to eyes closed train of thought and was baffled that Maya lost her there.

[@nopenope6530]

42:35 QT is having her Ted Kaczynski arc lol

[@coneg2714]

always hear that male fitness/workout things online is another Entry Point to the pipeline. been meaning to look into some beginner weightlifting programs and advice to supplement my cardio but it feels like i gotta do a bunch of research on who's not going to be a piece of shit before i even get started

[@MLElessthanthree]

It’s insane how drastic birth control reactions are. My friend got the implant and never got her period, but when I got the implant my period could last 3 weeks and I was super depressed. Another friend had frequent debilitating migraines

[@Anarchy624]

I love that this episode got the youtube equivalent of a community note

[@surfingthedarkness]

I'm so sorry Maya that you went through such a bad phase that you even "tried". I was in involuntary holds before too but voluntarily went in. You're doing such a good job dealing with your mental health problems.

[@samuelduenas1591]

This was actually one of my favorite episodes

[@Artofcarissa]

Regarding the 10k steps thing, I find the only thing that makes it easy for me to get to that goal is going to a theme park I went to the preview night for Halloween Horror Nights and ended up at around 11k steps but I definitely do not walk that much a day

[@user-th1pv6ks5o]

Yeah, it is because America isn't that walkable, like you literally can't exist in this country without a car. Not Just Bikes has A TON of videos on this issue.

[@Artofcarissa]

@@user-th1pv6ks5o true; I try to walk around my neighborhood but certain parts of the street the sidewalk disappears

[@toadwizard3909]

This episode reminds me a lot of Cults to Consciousness and I'm here for it

[@Floralysz]

Qt doing the twilight zone sound throughout the episode was it for me ✨

[@Em-by9ez]

Hormonal birth control is a super strong medication, and has to be in order to affect fertility. That is a stubborn process running in our bodies that is linked to every other hormone system in the body, and even temporarily disrupting it is not easy. BUT! We have non-hormonal birth control in the form of copper IUDs, and there are a wide variety of hormonal birth control options with different balances, that may affect you very differently!

[@formerdungeonmaster1232]

Please make a shareable short about the conspiracy pipelines so we can share, very good explanation!

[@euph5348]

This is why paying attention and involving ourselves in politics is so important. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves. Please VOTE!

[@MJ-xz8mi]

Thank you Maya for the pipeline run down. I feel like its so easy for people to fall down it and never get out. So many 'granola' moms fall for it. Very interesting and more people need to know.

[@rachieese]

QT you should try Japanese thermal straightening! I know rachel from rachel and jun has gotten it done and it lasts for months!!

[@LunaLamperouge]

Omg Maya just did a whole commentary video in a segment on the podcast. She explained so well, I wish it was a video on its own to warn more people and just start a discussion overall

[@spencercorpuz]

"Woah did Prezzo give you the pass for that or?" 😂😂 Had me fucking dying, I laughed so loud omg

[@craftydaysstudio9731]

Loved the episode, don't think you should be scared, honestly I can't imagine your demo is qanon. 😂

[@ryan_fury_99]

One of the most interesting episode. Love these deep dives.

[@usermnm1104]

26:50 "I am going to spend the next however long sounding" -mayo

[@vustag6325]

this is the manly man's show I needed for when I cook dinner

[@tala5116]

This episode was so good! I loved hearing you talk about everything xx

[@ivylynn6045]

maya thank you for talking about this rabbit hole! the wellness to Q pipeline is so real and scary.

[@agallina9]

qt is giving lover eras tour set and i’m living for it

[@SamanthaJo7227]

Anyone else get an ad for tik tok right before Qt says "I think social media is bad and we should get rid of it all"? 😂

[@Lagwire77]

Very based episode. Social media is completely out of control, even some of the biggest benefactors are calling it out. Scroll responsibly people.

[@InkieBeard]

Hasanabi-heads-terminal-online-frogs eating so well this episode, brilliant episode ladies

[@DreamskyDance]

Maya's deep dive was really really interesting. She is also presenting it and explained it very well. Personally i noticed that too, in my country especially during covid, alternative and healthy lifestyle people were protesting the covid measures together with far right neo-nazis. Ultimately both parroting international version of qanon ( yuuup, it has gone outside US with slight adjustments...). it was really jarring to see supposedly very left alternative and health and joga and such crowd going full circle and meeting with the far right in ideas. Also, it seems to me that it isnt much talked in general about this particular pipeline Maya was talking about. Please Maya continue to do deep dives into various interesting topics, it is interesting to listen to and you present it well.

[@kellen987]

I appreciate the observation Maya is sharing. It is absolutely worth talking about

[@xyz_abc123]

I also think a lot of the content on tik tok and even twitter is to bait interactions because that's what pays and that's why some of it is so intentionally bait-y

[@jacobbiggs9782]

Love love love the pod please never stop.

[@714deadpixels1]

We need a patreon segment where you get hasan and maya talk about her spiraling into conspiracy theories