‪@WinterStarcraft‬

They call him the Silver Guesser. After years of getting backstabbed by his Silver 1 guesses, after being laughed at in the Season 1 Finals when locking in the Silver league, @WinterStarcraft is here for revenge. This year, he will show 'em all! Or is he just overestimating his own abilities and will be featured on his very own Bronze League Heroes series soon? Time to find out!
Guess and compete against Harstem and the community in Harstem vs the world Round 4:
bit.ly/3DRq23a
If you want YOUR replay featured in Rank Roulette, send it in right here: forms.gle/iWyLp7X8dqCLgWT1A
Today's guest:
@WinterStarcraft
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/ wintergaming
/ starcraftwinter
Also don't forget to tell us your guesses on it in the comments!
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0:00 Intro
0:14 Today's contestants
0:37 Round 1
7:04 Round 2
15:04 Round 3
23:43 Round 4
30:46 Results
31:24 Harstem vs the world Round 3 Results
32:58 Harstem vs the world Round 4
36:00 Outro
#harstem #rankroulette #winter

[@Harstem]

In the last replay there is the wrong Rank by 1 Division on the screen, but the score is correct, so don't worry! Rather guess in Harstem vs the World: bit.ly/3DRq23a And send us YOUR replay: forms.gle/iWyLp7X8dqCLgWT1A

[@g0zertjuh]

I really want to inform you about the fact that mmr between opponents can differ a hella lot and you keep talking about what the ‘opponent’ is doing. I advise you to only look at the player you actually have to guess the rank of

[@SumBeef]

Just wanted to let you know, according to starstat, this is the 999th video on your channel. Maybe do something celebratory for the 1000th video? Perhaps another goat petting video? Maybe instead of a chocolate shoe, eat some of that green curry on cam?

[@mrmedix1]

The Harstem vs the World player's name that we are meant to guess the rank of is visible a few times in the replay!

[@mh1593]

How come the division ranking is wrong but the score is correct? Winter scored 3 and Harstem Scored 3 yet Winter was off by 1 rank and Harstem was off by 2 ranks; surely Winter should score 2 and so score 15 total?

[@humanchristiaan98]

Just an idea, but what about playing vs Lambo or someone else by resuming from replay in a bronze player replay?

[@J6hn]

"He's got 1500 minerals, he's microing against Assimilators"

[@aDeprivedSeal]

Comments like these are why Winter is my absolute favorite SC2 content creator

[@Dusk-MTG]

NA diamond viewer: "I'm going to send in this replay where I played so well so everyone will see that NA is an hard server." Harstem and Winter: "This is gold league"

[@WinterStarcraft]

Some real... creative nerds this time around, tough to judge because the opponents ended up even more confusing & distracting! Thx for having me even if some of these submissions need an Angry Coach.

[@Rws4Life]

The saddest part is that now we have to wait until next season before seeing you on ranked roulette again :(

[@gushlergushler]

[@roarmalf]

Winter noticing that stim was being researched at the end of the game ruined them. That was a sneaky replay. Hard ones this week.

[@sodapopinski8064]

Wow. This week had some seriously tough mid-range games that were hard to gauge. My sympathies to Winter.

[@SnkobArts]

He always gets screwed in these lol

[@notrather5514]

@@SnkobArts Yeah many of these replays could come ranging from gold 1 to masters like the last one. This zerg looked like me on a bad day and I am only plat 1 close to d3.

[@sodapopinski8064]

I usually come pretty close on guessing with 1 game I'm sometimes wildly off on since I'm no pro and don't have their eyes. But pretty much all of these I kept second guessing and being really confused about. Used to seeing 0-1 of these out of the 4, not 3-4 lol.

[@danielskrivan6921]

6:00 The Price is Right is an American gameshow where people have to guess how much things cost. The closest to the correct amount without going over is the winner. For example, if Harstem, Winter, and I were trying to guess the cost of a Coop Commander ($6.25), and I guessed $2, Winter guessed $4, and Harstem guessed $6.50, then Winter would win. Because even though Winter was $2.25 off and Harstem only $0.25, Harstem went over (in this example).

[@raphaelmoisan1645]

The catz complain really had me laughing

[@JokeofAllButts]

Not to worry Winter. Someone will do worse than you and be ate by the bear

[@SaulGoodman3D2049]

Here's hoping they invite Rotti again and he breaks his record from last season

[@nekrosis4431]

Winter guessed D1 in the last replay, which was Masters 3. That is one division off, meaning he got 2 points. Hamster gave him 3. HAMSTER GET YOUR POINTS RIGHT M8.

[@csontiMEGAhimihumi]

The guess was D2, the display is at fault showing D1. So the score is right. Check 28:15 for what Winter guessed.

[@matthewsemenuk8953]

Great banter and show of wits. GG Winter and Harstem

[@josearmandogomezrocabado537]

I think this was the thoughest episode. Awesome editing hamsteeer, harstem and hamster are the best team in SC2.

[@johndoe920]

"yadda yadda, Mutalisks, and then whatever you can throw in front of them" got me :P

[@Klaus2319]

20:44 lolo he was rigth xD

[@eliminatedzergling1685]

saltminer? i smell a certain sewer mermaid here ^^

[@wavecaptain]

This is some of the best SC2 content out there! This video had some rather..inspired gameplay

[@christianhornlimann3079]

How does winter still look like he's 20? I sense a conspiracy..

[@anima94]

no sunlight

[@BlueberryFruitshake]

Winter somehow looks 13 and 30 at the same time

[@dizastro5437]

This tops my week. Two fave personalities on screen at the same time!

[@dizastro5437]

Hmm...? Who is the pizza maker?

[@Galahad54]

@@dizastro5437 Serral, of course. Whenever I think of pizza, I always order and Finnish it.

[@ludisnemo887]

Thanks for mentioning the stim detail Hamster! :)

[@OriginalDankness]

On the third one I feel like they missed that the zerg seemed to have at least 3 control groups in the very beginning. He separately controlled banes, lings, and queens.

[@Cheng798536]

Diamond 1. Tipical Before 5 mins play like a champion. Good execution of build order and first battle micro. But as the game goes further. Unspent resource get quite high. The toss army movement shows good understanding of AI targeting priority But didn't know when thor attack colossal will use punishing cannon Which out range unupgraded clifwalker. Fairly experienced But better army movement makes him a master level player.

[@antonioespinoza2551]

You played my boy Winter dirty

[@Inbal_Feuchtwanger]

For some reason I always guess spot on whenever both guys are way off. That 3rd game I wanted to guess in plat based off the Terran but we were rating the zerg and everything about his play screamed D3.

[@mefikFS]

I tought Diamond but after I saw it is NA server I switched to masters :)

[@Anderent13]

those thumbs were ready for action.

[@whatmattersnot]

the first 2 replays were epic

[@lxnux_._.9310]

can u ask Heromarine for a episode ? xD

[@jimhoxworth7462]

The cannon rusher might be me lol. I main Z and T and only screw around when I play P and that looks like how I’d just eff around lol. I haven’t played 1 actually serious game as protoss and somehow the game placed me in D3. I’m D1 with Terran and Zerg. My name is Darknight, in case hamster wants to confirm so Winter and Harstem can flame me lol

[@bobhockey2509]

Gunna lose my mind one day when I finally see Bane Boost Energy at the corner store.

[@BrewKnowURSA]

They're actually quite charismatic together, aren't they? EU and NA cultural differences make for a good vibe. Imagine this duo shaping the future of competitive #Stormgate casting.

[@hivetech4903]

Last game... that's why the pros don't skip a roach warren.

[@isaac_shelton]

this is what I live for

[@ollief116]

Cheeky score of 3 this week 😎 Harstem should defo invite a ladder player each season to see how they do

[@pauledwards2052]

16:45 has some strong Is It OP Or Do I Suck vibes

[@phunglung69420]

Good on Harstem for gaining over 100K subscribers! I remember when the kid was barely starting his KZbin career!

[@nhattuyenvodieu3103]

damn i did so well on this one until the last xD

[@andreassandsmark55]

Bro this video title almost looks like a poorly written Python code. Vid still a banger though. 🔥🔥🔥

[@G3Dem]

Ah fuck yeah!

[@WolfGangDealers]

If I see a video with Winter, I must post a comment. This will be a fun video!

[@gushlergushler]

you do indeed :D

[@petermacfarlane6]

didn't winter get 2 the last round?

[@crispyco6277]

My guesses: Diamond 2 (Micro and usage of units felt higher, the plan and build order felt lower, so i sorta just went with diamond and took the middle, payed of!!) Silver 1 (So, i in my mind i thought there is no way this is plat, any decent canon rusher gets to play, but it was so bad, and no use of blink, wow guess i was wrong?) Diamond 3 (I did not notice the stim restart, but the gameplay felt like they had a plan, and the terran can often get away with less micro, if would say plat 2 if it wasn't the zerg we . were watching, Ok good feeling, i was worried about when they started talking about stim xD) Master 3 (This was the more tricky one, i tend to have a bias to not go into master guesses, but this game felt better than the dia games, but looking at the zerg, i was boerding dia 1, . It payed of going for the gut feeling of masters!) Overall: I'm amazed i did so well this tiem, that silver 1 suckd though, i was so convinced the canon rusher was too bad to get to plat, still very happy with the results, ggs! :D

[@falcon758]

Damn, this was a tough set of matches. Winter deserves a re-match

[@esarel]

14:30 - if there was only 1 loss at the beginning that means I submitted the only loss for a long while 🙏🙏

[@hamster_designs]

That were the Season 1 days ^^ These days we have far more losses, although it stil is a minority

[@evankuo2578]

2 + 2 + 3 + 2 for me for 9. Close-ish each time but no cigar

[@hamster_designs]

But hey, 9 is actually very impressive!

[@evankuo2578]

@@hamster_designs aw thanks. Love your editing!

[@colegrey123]

Much less interrupting each other this time

[@anima94]

"the realization that you can snipe overlords puts you in diamond", I can't believe how badly Harstem thinks of the Metal leagues.. That's something most silver players realize I think

[@Paul-iw9cy]

IT IS kinda true

[@anima94]

@@Paul-iw9cy idk I started chasing overlords to supply block before I knew you should build a wall against zerg

[@richardgallimore5976]

Feelsbad, on this episode I only got 7 points in total across the 4 games, but in my previous vs the world guess I also got 7 points across 1 game...

[@cwalk1066]

How the hell was that replay from last week Silver 2? I might be an idiot but felt like more platinum if not diamond to me

[@PolineChan]

The Terran doesn't do drug

[@andreashalbfeld7671]

You're a content MACHINE!

[@MrMister5555]

OMG This was my best one ever! I love to play along :D I got 2/2/0/2 so 6 points!

[@hamster_designs]

Damn! That's close to the all time record!!

[@johndread6160]

I like harstem's biggie shirt lol

[@zor8952]

Can someone please send in some games of Harstem's BGMWSS videos for rank roulette? I am very curious about what he would have to say 😂

[@NomadicsSWFA]

Ready for some PvX build order reviews when you are.

[@MetalMan1245]

Yes.

[@rupen42]

I got 7 points this episode :)

[@hbpromking04]

Lmao. This is epic

[@entropie-3622]

Why did Winter get 3 points for the last round? As far as I can tell he was only off by 1 division so shouldn't it have been 2 points?

[@hansnorleaf]

Yeah he even said himself " I did better than you and thats what matters." Should have been 2 points for winter there. Still a loss overall so I dont think it matters too much.

[@arnehenkler8391]

Winter said Diamand 2 and it was Masters 3, that's 3 points. The display during scoring was wrong.

[@entropie-3622]

@@arnehenkler8391 I see, that makes sense. Though it is also possible that Winter did send Diamond 1 to Hamster and only said he picked Diamond 2 in confusion. Edit: Just saw that Harstem pinned a comment adressing it.

[@tolo9664]

Lambo next??!!

[@xanderwilson8293]

I think the last guy was definitely plat 2

[@VTerran]

Winter looks stoned af

[@Elitefromthebar]

The score in the last round was incorrect. You need to check it.

[@Epyon1201]

"I dont want to watch 12 more minutes of you winning with 50 more supply" If NA players could read they would take offense to that.

[@klerafukan2083]

I love Winter

[@KantiDono]

I wish we got to watch a little more of the replay. Each round feels like 1 minute of replay, and 4 minutes of them talking about things that we didn't see in the replay because it was cut.

[@Asternius]

Don’t we see exactly as much as they do?

[@LEpigeon888]

We see the exact same thing as them. They don't watch the ingame replay but a summary of it made by hamster, the exact same summary that we see.

[@Asternius]

@@LEpigeon888 Then I dont get the first comment

[@LEpigeon888]

@@Asternius Because they're wrong.

[@sirtrojanersnaps5412]

Winter wont stop talking

[@Ole_Rasmussen]

Can't believe I'm better than Winter this season! (by 1 point)

[@hamster_designs]

gg ez no re!

[@Kassplaylist]

I got all of them correct. First time I've scored a zero :D usually at +12

[@jingxuanwang8674]

Winter is a random player?

[@kylejackson5646]

Diamond 1

[@Supergoon1989]

REYNOR NEXT WEEK!???? :D

[@alltheusernameswastaken8936]

I think that every round the scores was calculated incorrectly, being off by 1 gets scored as 2 and being off by 2 gets scored as 3... ??

[@jeffwei9566]

Round 3 is clearly diamond 3. A player shouldn't be judged so harshly when "you look away one second and die" as stated by Lowko. Also, the Stim got cancelled but you missed seeing this. Also, NA is definitely more free flowing rather than following rigid build orders.

[@JFox4587]

5 points

[@danielskrivan6921]

29 points. Not a good start. Not a good finish. Nowhere to go but up from here. . . . . 1. Gold 3 - 8 Points - I get the sense these are players that got as far as they could on okay micro without just going for all-ins (or anything else, really). 2. Gold 3 - 4 Points - He didn’t die to the cannon rush, even if it was a bad one. 3. Gold 3 - 7 Points - The Terran had a lot of Marines…and that’s it…didn’t try to kite the lings. Did nothing against the banes. Did get kited by the Mutas. I realize we were watching that player, but it’s not hard to stutter step one group if that’s all you’re doing. 4. Gold 3 - 10 Points - I’m stubborn. I made this guess before even watching. Might as well go for high score at this point.

[@hamster_designs]

29? oof... That is a setback xD

[@logik1677]

i wanna see Harstem play zerg on NA, and not be able to get out of dia ....... :P

[@adamavis101]

Masters 3

[@KinGStreaK]

Reynor??

[@albertbergquist2113]

D1 for the last game

[@helenagustafsson3653]

Points 0 0 5 0

[@hamster_designs]

Holy shit. Goated run!

[@bjrn2010]

Winter should have gotten 2 points in the last round and 15 total, no?

[@ludisnemo887]

I thought the same thing...

[@ludisnemo887]

Rewatching it, Winter actually says D2, therefore 3 points.

[@AlexGarciaMatthew7-7]

Harstem, long time viewer, big fan of yours. Excellent content, DESPITE your jabs at Americans! :P But, I have a suggestion, since you are so good at "Rank Roulette" perhaps it should be your guests against EACH other, instead of you? That way it is fairer and they are competing against someone who has as much experience playing this as them?

[@eck0hcobra15]

I think he's there to maintain the conversation

[@SaulGoodman3D2049]

Yeah that's what they did with the season finales/playoffs for season 2. I'm guessing they don't do it a lot because it's a pain to coordinate.

[@AlexGarciaMatthew7-7]

@@eck0hcobra15 Oh, don't misunderstand, I don't want Harstem to be out of it completely, he can definitely maintain the conversation and I think it would be a benefit if he did. I think the guests should compete against each other.

[@BooperSchmooper]

so uh why did Winter get 3 points for last pick he was only 1 league off?

[@egorfrolov994]

Diamond 2

[@bigybop]

I love winter

[@advancewarstournamentseries]

Isn't D1 to M3 2 points? Am I missing something?

[@tomb8602]

How the fuck hamster is counting the points this season ?

[@Aminmotors]

Is baneboost real? I want to try it

[@ingainloggningsnamn]

Gold 2-3?! Owww.. I thought like diamond 3 or plat.

[@ingainloggningsnamn]

I knew it!

[@shikore22]

Idk why harstem accepting bad games replay, I myself M2 random and sometimes I play like metal league player, & sending those are very deceptive and unfair to judge

[@Plajerity]

@@shikore22 You can't get a league looking at one replay anyway. If there would be only one guess, scores would be almost random. But like with statistics, if we take 4 guesses and sum up or average, it's not random anymore. There are a lot of clues even in "bad" games replay - game 3 where they both were way off - terran didn't split nicely and got wiped out by banelings. And decided to focus base instead of fighting an army. But the rest was actually quite decent, especially how he defended mutas. Only looking by that one thing it's unlikely to be gold. They got stuck with stim upgrade... On the other hand, if diamond 3 player follows some one base build order and executes it nicely, it may be mistaken with high masters - at least for me. I noticed I'm better with guessing lower leagues, and they are better at guessing higher. So there is definitely a lot of room to improve.

[@shikore22]

@@Plajerity true you got a point, but issue harstem co-helper is controlling the camera, highlighting parts of game where it seemed he played bad or good is kind of unjuste especially if replay did not include early,mid and late game

[@Plajerity]

@@shikore22 Especially on lower levels people spend like 90+% time macroing, and there is very little going on. So, I feel like there is usually enough info about metal leagues. Some games can be misleading like mass carries at 12 min, but usually there are multiple hints that it's not diamond and above. And people at silver, gold and plat are actually quite precise at guessing this mmr range.

[@Dosageofthefuture]

Why did harstem get 2 on round one when he was 1 away

[@hamster_designs]

The scoring goes 0-2-3-4... to further reward perfect guesses.

[@Dosageofthefuture]

@@hamster_designs yes and the first round should only give him one but it gives him two, even harstem says, "thats one"

[@pluto3194]

@@Dosageofthefuture It's not possible to get 1 point

[@derbisi9755]

European & Pizza? Could only be Reynor. The one who complains about other non-italian making pizza ... like Scarlett 😂 The hint of Hamster that stim got bain-bust was nice. Letting them complaining instead of speeding up their talk about the bad guess, kinda boooring.

[@henningbreede6428]

Heromarine is famous for MAKING Pizza.

[@derbisi9755]

@@henningbreede6428 didn't know this 😱 😂

[@huylevi]

How do they count the point in this rank roulette. Sometimes it is 1 division off and someone got 2 point?

[@JFox4587]

You get zero for being correct, 2 if you miss by 1, everything else is 1 more point after that

[@muuanmies7372]

how come missing by 1 league give 3 points?

[@JFox4587]

This season, I have 6,6,10, and 5, for a total of 27 points. Any time yall want me on the show, just hit me up

[@JFox4587]

Also got the harstem vs world correct, on the nose. I’m killin it and haven’t played this game in over a decade 😅

[@walterytbe8214]

Masters 2

[@Draemn]

Since when are Silver 2 players actually that good?

[@andrebrodbeck384]

I love how harstem flames the community for being 1 (in word one) League worse them himself. 👍

[@MrTruskawa]

Love the content. Please don't show players' names in the rounds against community, it ruins the fun.

[@ersgutertilman]

4/0/0/0

[@albertbergquist2113]

Winter is only 1 off in the last one, so should have 15 points.

[@ludisnemo887]

Thought the same thing but Winter actually says D2, therefore 3 points. There was some confusion in the commentary and on the screen it seems...

[@shikore22]

Its kinda unfair most of these replays quite tough to guess compared to other episodes

[@JFox4587]

I got 5 points. Cry more plz. Even harstem was scratching his head, winter just did badly. He doesn’t realize how bad of micro the metal leagues have.