Wired Predator: New AWD Wired Freedom

[@RydinNStyle]

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[@michaelmccullough7309]

Got 1 coming . Stoked

[@RydinNStyle]

@michaelmccullough7309 awesome, what's the delivery time frame?

[@michaelmccullough7309]

@@RydinNStyle well sooner than the cruiser I had scheduled for this November. They were kind enough to switch my order for me . I was not given exact date , but color selection played into it . I chose a blue one . I was told that this one would actually come quicker than the cruiser I had ordered .I would say if you want one and are willing to take colors still available, go for it .

[@RydinNStyle]

@@michaelmccullough7309 awesome, congratulations

[@markborao6144]

Your videos are very informative and helpful, thank you. I love my Furious Road Warrior 1000w 60v Step Thru. I have heard / observed some crashes on KZbin with all wheel drive e-bikes (front end is heavier and it’s harder for people to control the front end - especially in gravel). What is your experience ?

[@RydinNStyle]

@markborao6144 these bikes are very powerful and I wouldn't recommend for someone's first ebike. I have a lot of respect for the bike's power and have learned to navigate it safely in the different driving modes

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Good job....Predator is way too much $$$. You get torque...no more top speed....you are spot on.

[@RydinNStyle]

@IMBruceECLECTIC extra torque, but still a cadence sensor. Tires will wear out quicker and battery range will diminish

[@briansnow9942]

Exactly. I have a Seeker 24. Top speed is 2 mph higher in Awd. My next is a Freedom vs ecells or ..come on china make 60/72 v ebikes that look like a bike. Cause the government is coming...

[@RydinNStyle]

@briansnow9942 haha, gotta keep these bikes low-key sleepers for sure.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

@@briansnow9942 ..they are coming.....

[@jazsurfer]

@@briansnow9942 Ditto back at ya Brian. I've been wondering if I was the only one thinking like this!

[@jamesramsey7767]

Hey buddy, great commentary. I'm a owner of the Wired Freedom the first 2024 model. I would had love to waited and purchased the Wire Freedom dual battery 2024 model. I still feel like Wired pulled a bait and switch crap with the 2024 model. I lived on a fixed retirement income, I can't afford to go out and purchase new Wire Freedom ebikes.🤨😒😡

[@luigiprovencher]

I feel you there. I just got my Cruiser after finding out the day before that they were coming out with a dual motor model.

[@RydinNStyle]

@jamesramsey7767 It's hard to be completely satisfied for a little bit, but then start to look at the newer, upgraded versions.

[@RydinNStyle]

@@luigiprovencher sone people are experiencing that buyers remorse lol

[@jamesramsey7767]

@RydinNStyle That's pretty much all that can do right about now is look my friend. I do get the feelings that the price of gas will soar and this will be the best alternative.

[@luigiprovencher]

@@RydinNStyle Yeah and I'm one of them.

[@jfly2249]

I live a mile from Steve at Wired and have had the opportunity to ride the Predator as well as an earlier AWD prototype based on the KT controller back in January, aka e cells monster with 4000 watts. The predator is a blast to ride and actually pretty safe. You keep it in rear wheel and switch to AWD on the fly for Turbo boost. When you pedal, the bike switches to rear wheel drive automatically to prevent accidents. The KT prototype was a nightmare and not able to be refined because of the ancient and obsolete KT controllers vs the fully customizable Wired branded controller. I would think they will have a non wheel spin mode in the production models. In terms of top speed, you are limited by the max RPM of the geared hub motor which is about 45mph with a normal sized human. To get faster top speeds, you would need an even bigger geared hub motor designed for high speed or a direct drive motor. A 60v AWD is overkill (AWD are popular because you can get great performance from a 48 or 52v system) but I think Wired developed this bike to beat Citizen’s Cycle AWD, and to send a serious FY to E Cells. Btw, with the weight of the motor in the front wheel, there is no problem with wobble. The Predator is an acceleration beast and can climb any mountain. Does anyone really need the power of a 911 GTS or Tesla Plaid? At $3.5k the Predator will be a niche offering but the undisputed king of acceleration and hill climbing.

[@RydinNStyle]

@jfly2249 doesn't direct drive turn it from a emtb to an emoto? I'll need to look further into direct drives

[@electrified314]

thanks for the info and a bit of a comparison. I can't lie, that Fabulous Warriar might look a little better. Especially in that blue. ... What are your thoughts on a Fabulous 24" warrior type bike. I think the have the same blue option, but with 24" wheels instead of 26". It may be called Route 66 or something like that. thanks!

[@RydinNStyle]

@electrified314 that would be a better fit for a lot of riders who fall between the EMX (20") and the Road Warrior (26"). I think 24" tires is the sweet spot. And the dual motors with a torque sensor is the golden ticket.

[@gregb878]

The wired predator is programmed not to exceed 45 mph under any settings. It would definitely be capable of more but let's be real I might go 45 mph once just to see what it's like. Also the shipping is $275. We ordered two of these over the weekend. We were leaning toward the Furious but once we saw this we knew this was the one. We figured with the added weight and upgraded for the wobble would be eliminated as well. They released around 100 predator bikes. :)

[@RydinNStyle]

@@gregb878 awesome, congrats!

[@benhartland4708]

wow nice, you didn't waste any time lol

[@stephenolotu5588]

I noticed that ur audio only plays in one ear lov3 ur intro btw

[@RydinNStyle]

@stephenolotu5588 i think my mic switched to one side, oops

[@stephenolotu5588]

@RydinNStyle lol it's OK I just wanted to let u know great vedio

[@bdog8594]

i just ordered the predator. n received the wired freedom a week ago ! love n it ! 🙈

[@RydinNStyle]

@@bdog8594 awesome, you're building an awesome bike collection as well

[@Pidgeys]

Hey man. I'm in the market for one of these. Is the predator worth the extra cash? Cuz it's a lot for just the front motor.

[@RydinNStyle]

@Pidgeys it's more for torque with better hill climbing capability versus a much higher top speed. Whether single or dual motors, it's still limited to 60v. I understand Wired has sold their predators already as it was a trial batch of around 100 bikes. We'll see if they launch something in the future.

[@jcolt84]

My Onyx CTY2 has a 60 V direct drive hub motor and a 100 amp controller and it will top out 54 mph

[@RydinNStyle]

@jcolt84 that sounds like a good time 😎

[@jfly2249]

Direct Drive is the key to top speed. The Onyx is a very nice e moto but pretty worthless off road and a clown show to actually pedal.

[@jcolt84]

@@jfly2249 I have no need to take it off the road. I need to get it worked on, but there’s no place in Southern Illinois to take it to.

[@scotta9114]

I bought a Currie Electric Bike in 1998. 21 speed derailer. It is basically a Schwinn Bike with a Brushless Motor on the back. 18 MPH top-speed. It uses a 24 volt AGM battery pack. I used to ride with a Bike group and they ridiculed me and called me a Pussy for riding an electric Bike. They said I could no longer ride with them. Even riding around by myself, People would yell at me with foul comments. So the Bike went up in the attic for over 20 years. Times have really changed! Now, nobody that I know is calling any EV Bike Rider a "Pussy" or worse. My confusion is when does it become an Electric Motorcycle? I really like to Pedal a Bike and use the Motor only for hill assist. A Bike that weighs 150 pounds seem like Pedals should be eliminated. My old 1998 E-Bike, the Battery weighed 17.5 pounds. I just bought LIFEPO4 replacements and the pack is now under 8 pounds. Need to get a LIFEPO4 Charger and test it out. I do love this AWD Predator, however. Appreciate your great review.

[@jcolt84]

If a person was going to buy a wired E bike, would you recommend the wired cruiser or the wired freedom most?

[@RydinNStyle]

@jcolt84 there are different variables to consider. If you're above 6 feet tall, you should be ok with the Freedom, but under that, the cruiser might be more of a better fit.

[@Jolly-Green-Steve]

I just wish they would upgrade that rear battery to 40ah. It would bring the full speed range from 30 miles up to 55 which would greatly increase the travel capability even replacing your car for most situations. I could go to any gym or the beach no problem with that.

[@RydinNStyle]

@@Jolly-Green-Steve that would be a very heavy battery affixed to a rear rack that isn't welded on.

[@Jolly-Green-Steve]

@@RydinNStyle Alright instead of rear rack battery just have one frame battery that is 60v50ah(3kwh).... I don't care if it's 1 0r 2 batteries I need 3 to 3.5 kwhs.... 2 is not enough. I want to be able to go 55 miles at 38mph or 65 at 35 mph. Specs always get better fast because of competition and economies of scale. Give it another year someone will have this spec at 2 thousand dollars. Paying 3000 to 3500 is to much for an ebike I will wait it out.

[@briansnow9942]

@@Jolly-Green-Steve I have a seeker 24 dual motor. 52v 25 amph. Paid $1352 delievered. Goes like hell and tops 38 they say 33 gps with my weight and accessories 220 lbs. So yes give it 6 months and hopefully there will be a 60v or 72v bicycle looking ebike that can commute with traffic safely.

[@Jolly-Green-Steve]

@@briansnow9942 I like the Eahora Romeo Pro 2 the best but it is heavy/the seat is not adjustable/and costs about 3K that's why I'm not buying it. When ebikes get to 3K plus you might as well just buy a 400cc motorcycle. I like the Wired Cruiser a lot I just want 3kwh battery for 2 grand.

[@alexbritz6672]

I hope the wired Predator is not an exclusive e-bike even though there's a limited amount them right now.

[@RydinNStyle]

@@alexbritz6672 I'm sure it's to test the market. More would likely happen if there was a demand

[@alexbritz6672]

@@RydinNStyle that does seem reasonable I have lectric xp 3.0 I want to get a bike from wired but I don't have enough money and since the wired Predator just came out I still don't have enough money but I figured the more time I wait I might get a better one in the future after all I've noticed wired has been adding new features to their bikes AWD to me is just the beginning.

[@RydinNStyle]

@alexbritz6672 it's good to have a wait and see approach versus the fear of missing out mindset.

[@alexbritz6672]

@@RydinNStyle it's like sometimes you want what you can't have.

[@RydinNStyle]

@alexbritz6672 that's human nature my friend

[@briansnow9942]

Somewhere I read their only making 100 as a test. I don't believe .. but then again $1300 more for a motor / controller... should be $500

[@RydinNStyle]

@@briansnow9942 wanna be a part of the test? It's not cheap

[@jfly2249]

I would think you get a better price from the factory if you buy 5000 vs. 100. Also, looking at where the competition is priced, Wired is still lower.

[@rays3995]

They said it was a limited run and they won't be anymore available just message them

[@RydinNStyle]

@rays3995 oh wow, interesting. I wonder what else they have coming down the line

[@rays3995]

No more predator online i guess im gonna get a à9 aniioki

[@RydinNStyle]

@@rays3995 those are good bikes too

[@shanepipkin4041]

not the volts it's the amps out of the controller

[@peggylabarre1519]

nice review and nice bikes but what about bike laws there only six states in the us that allow a 1000 watt motor and the deal law takes preference over state laws and the federal law says no bikes over 750watts on the roadways so why are these bike of 1000 watts or more not registered I grew up with mopeds and 49cc scooters the law said over 49cc you register it and get a motorcycle license and we all have been obaying that law for 50 years no problem so why are all these 1000 watt plus bikes not registered and all I can say is tell people to check the bike laws in there state most states it is 750 watts maxs if someone gets into an accident and they are on a 1000 watt bike they are braking the and if they had to go to court they would be screwed can you come back at me with your thoughts about the bike laws I would as other reads would like to hear from you Ihave a dual battery 750 ebike and I enjoy riding it yes I would like to have a larger motor and go faster but I also want obay the law and not get a fine like my friend who had a 1000 watt bike and got pulled over and bammm he got a large fine and told to register the bike and get a M license well please comment on that so I say check your laws buy smart and legal and have a blast as I do riding my legal ebike and I can wave to the cops have a great day

[@RydinNStyle]

@peggylabarre1519 Right now, there are laws trying to be passed by the legislation, but ebikes fall into a loophole because current laws are based on cc's, not watts. Soon, bikes will require pedals, side view mirrors, registration, and even insurance.

[@michalmisio64]

I have ebike with two motors and two batteries Bandit Xtrail pro which I am going to sell and buy wired cruizer the wired its much better quality and the acualy have phone support that they answer phone calls and they are close by me so its no brainer for me

[@RydinNStyle]

@@michalmisio64 sounds like an awesome choice

[@luigiprovencher]

They do not have excellent customer service. Only being able to talk to them through their messaging system on their website is not excellent customer service.

[@RydinNStyle]

@@luigiprovencher you haven't tried calling them?

[@luigiprovencher]

@@RydinNStyle Yeah. Of course I have and then they just tell you to message them.

[@benhartland4708]

they can handle more people messaging rather than the phone being occupied, it IS excellent customer service they get back to me quick each and every time.

[@luigiprovencher]

@@benhartland4708 False. Good for you.

[@Pidgeys]

​@@luigiprovencherI think the majority of the world would rather just message. Youre the outlier.

[@jasonkrantz8946]

60volts will do 50 it needs direct drive

[@RydinNStyle]

@jasonkrantz8946 would that eliminate the need for pedals o are there direct drive emtb options available?