Witcher 3 - Is Necromancy Evil? - Witcher Lore

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@celtickiller01
@celtickiller01 6 жыл бұрын
so much destain for necromancers, can't a person raise a family in peace?
@paragonexperience
@paragonexperience 6 жыл бұрын
THE PUN!
@cdv3401
@cdv3401 6 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhhh! Cuz... you... you’re raising the dead... and... ha...
@Banana_Zach
@Banana_Zach 6 жыл бұрын
Dad: it sure is hard to raise a family. Necromancer: not if they are buried close together. Dad: What? Necromancer: What?
@xcaluhbration
@xcaluhbration 6 жыл бұрын
@@Banana_Zach 😭
@Tia-Marie
@Tia-Marie 6 жыл бұрын
Every time I try, some Cleric rebukes them :(
@potatoman4544
@potatoman4544 6 жыл бұрын
It's also worth mentioning that Yennefer using Necromancy did kill the sacred garden.
@Orion_Fritz
@Orion_Fritz 6 жыл бұрын
Alucard McCregor pretty sure that was just because of how resource intensive it is to do necromancy, that it used up a lot of the natural magic in the area.
@potatoman4544
@potatoman4544 6 жыл бұрын
Orion Fritz That's very much a possibility.
@urekmazino6800
@urekmazino6800 6 жыл бұрын
@@Orion_Fritz and she knew that so it makes it worse
@theburgerking1236
@theburgerking1236 5 жыл бұрын
Even with the large amount of magic in the area Yennifer seemed very drained after using the spell whether she over used her natural stores of magic or if it’s just a usual effect from casting the spell itself. We’ve only seen two examples of the magic so it’s hard to say but it seems that necromancy always requires an enormous strain on the body making the creation of an army of the undead almost impossible
@theburgerking1236
@theburgerking1236 5 жыл бұрын
Although it should be said that perhaps it’s merely the fact that the magic is so unrefined
@brianweaver327
@brianweaver327 5 жыл бұрын
A necromancer is just a late healer.
@mauriceflores4326
@mauriceflores4326 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@r0btech
@r0btech 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5LNnaGJoLd2mJI Disgraceful
@AngryAlfonse
@AngryAlfonse 6 жыл бұрын
"...when the spell is cast, the light drains from the sky, as if the world wishes to withdraw consent from what is about to happen." Damn. That was poetic. And fucking dark.
@d4n737
@d4n737 2 жыл бұрын
So... it's like raping reality, yes?
@visionofsolace8961
@visionofsolace8961 Жыл бұрын
​@@d4n737Yes, it's so unnatural that the world does not want it.
@Hercules1-v9m
@Hercules1-v9m 5 жыл бұрын
*The Mages Guild wants to know your location.*
@zondor8123
@zondor8123 5 жыл бұрын
The witch hunter has arrived
@FuckdasketsHOPassass
@FuckdasketsHOPassass 4 жыл бұрын
Are you Native American?
@Erfierazgzb0ss4u
@Erfierazgzb0ss4u 3 жыл бұрын
What's the fine for necrophilia in this part of tamriel?
@jezebelmei195
@jezebelmei195 4 жыл бұрын
Just played the scene in the garden today, it broke me for a bit.
@arielle452
@arielle452 5 жыл бұрын
I really hated watching Yennifer bring that poor boy back from the dead :(
@blazingswayze5518
@blazingswayze5518 5 жыл бұрын
Finished this quest last night and dear god I felt uncomfortable.
@jacobnewcombe5367
@jacobnewcombe5367 5 жыл бұрын
You get to bury him with Ciri so some kind of justice I guess. Poor Ciri cant catch a break
@jezebelmei195
@jezebelmei195 4 жыл бұрын
It made me feel sick
@jmitterii2
@jmitterii2 3 жыл бұрын
@@jezebelmei195 It should. Unless you're messed up. In the Witcher world, you literally are putting the life force consciousness back into the rotting dead body. I mean I think it's essentially as if you suddenly had consciousness in your own dead rotting body... feeling all the pain of nerves somehow feeling the agony of decay, the stink, severe headache, bowels rotten, inability to breath, fever hot and cold chill, nausea and migraine and hazy misery. A living nightmare. Wow, I wouldn't not make for an undertaker :(
@aidanappleyard1236
@aidanappleyard1236 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was sad but, if there was another way to find Ciri Yennefer would have done it she obviously also did not like doing it.
@permeus2nd
@permeus2nd 6 жыл бұрын
i never believed Yen when she said it wasn't really him, i think that was mostly her trying to convince herself and i don't think she did, a lot of the stuff the sorcerer's do involves them lying to themselves. as for the question, is Necromancy evil? no not by itself, like most things it's how you use it that makes it evil or in Yens case misguided, if she knew more about Necromancy she could have only summoned his ghost without the need to rebind it to the battered and broken body, but sadly that knowledge is forbidden so she wouldnt know that.
@no_i_dont_want_no_slugs
@no_i_dont_want_no_slugs 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think she was convincing herself. People who say she was lying to Geralt don't see the nuance of her character. She's very much an "I'll do what I have to do to protect my loved ones" person, even if it means she has to do horrible things, even if it means she'll be hated. I think she's trying to push down her own empathy for him because for her the goal is saving Ciri and nothing, not even morality, will stand in the way of that.
@harryflashman3451
@harryflashman3451 6 жыл бұрын
That moment where Yen tortured Skjal really made my skin crawl more than any other moment in the game
@elvingearmasterirma7241
@elvingearmasterirma7241 5 жыл бұрын
Evil? Maybe. Cruel? Definitely.
@idahoffman121
@idahoffman121 6 жыл бұрын
Never stop these series! Love them a lot, intresting as hell too.
@ruination-441
@ruination-441 5 жыл бұрын
I think it’s more important that they were able to clear his name for helping Ciri
@joemama114
@joemama114 6 жыл бұрын
I guess in the specific case of Yennefer and Geralt reanimating that dude for a moment, you'd have to ask yourself are you willing to torture information out of someone who is alive? Would you be willing to torture someone who is alive until they die to gain information? If so then necromancy is a tool that you'll be willing to use.
@Recoil1808
@Recoil1808 6 жыл бұрын
That to me depends on what that information IS. Acceptable reasons: Known plot the person is involved in. Let's say that we have a member of a terrorist organization captured, and we know that their group is planning something. In that scenario, lives other than the scum being interrogated are in danger and time is most certainly of the essence. Would you rather ask nicely and hope they tell you, or use every tool at your disposal to save innocent lives (IRL)? Now, let's say a group of assassins just made an attempt on your king. Bold, yes, but dishonourable scum undeserving of mercy or pity. Would you wait for another strike, possibly one more subtle, and hope that leads to a capture, or would you raise up one of the slain to tell you his master (Fic.)? Looking for someone that they have encountered, like in the example in the game, or in a similar example in... Shit, I genuinely can't remember the name of the series.... OK, I'll just describe it. Or looking for someone who you know intends harm on another. Obviously torture IRL here wouldn't apply, though Witcher necromancy does.. Troop movements that, again, could potentially save your OWN troops, or even civilians. Again, unacceptable with the living, but the dead are fair game, IMO. I genuinely do feel this to be more nuanced than a one-to-one comparison. You may notice that in all of the cases where I think it would be acceptable is when lives are genuinely at stake besides those of the resurectee or torturee. I don't have to like the act, but I will go to bat for its necessity in certain circumstances.. And this coming from a proud supporter of necromancy in other media, like in TES.
@OrganizationXIII
@OrganizationXIII 5 жыл бұрын
@@Recoil1808 well said I agree
@no_i_dont_want_no_slugs
@no_i_dont_want_no_slugs 4 жыл бұрын
This is why I find Triss so inconsistent. She is willing to torture that spy guy (and even seems to enjoy it for a moment), kill him, and kill the Witch Hunter leader. But when Geralt mentions necromancy she gets on her moral high horse and says she hasn't stooped that low yet. But you have, lady! You already have!
@genesisosuna
@genesisosuna 4 жыл бұрын
@@no_i_dont_want_no_slugs they made triss a mediocre character in the witcher 3
@Sharkhanatic
@Sharkhanatic 3 жыл бұрын
@@no_i_dont_want_no_slugs Necromancy is far worse torture than spy guy. Skjaal felt thousand cuts on his body screaming while "spy guy" was feeling cramps all over his body. Plus, Skjaal was innocent man who tried to save Ciri & was tortured by someone who called him rotten flesh and that "spy guy" was a guilty man who was serving that madman Radovid. He deserved it. Skjaal didn't. Big difference.
@jacobfreeman5444
@jacobfreeman5444 6 жыл бұрын
I would say no, but the price is quite high. You can't perform it without enormous sacrifice. Which means only the desperate or evil would use it. So it really should be forbidden if only because it is too dangerous to those who are not powerful enough to exercise restraint and defend themselves from what they unleash.
@Moshpitti
@Moshpitti 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so addicted to the Witcher lore and these videos, I'll need rehab at this rate lol
@vtine85
@vtine85 6 жыл бұрын
I have to comment, your narration and ability to build atmosphere in what you say, is highly impressive. Excellent work. If you are not a DM, you should be.
@ChasoGod
@ChasoGod 6 жыл бұрын
I can see a way of Necromancy being legal in a morally grey way. Just like with the study of anatomy, which in the past was considered evil and vile cause the practitioner is cutting up a dead body, laws can be put in place that the study and practice of Necromancy can only be done on the bodies of criminals or those who consented before death. Bodies of criminals who are executed will be donated to the sorcerers for the study of the art and maybe a tomb for soldiers who swore an oath of loyalty even in death that if the need is dire enough then they may be brought back to defend the city, these soldiers would sign contracts of course so it's not just their word but a legally binding document.
@no_i_dont_want_no_slugs
@no_i_dont_want_no_slugs 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting parallel with anatomy. I hadn't thought of that but it's true.
@Erfierazgzb0ss4u
@Erfierazgzb0ss4u 3 жыл бұрын
"Even in death I still serve"
@skullcrusade3436
@skullcrusade3436 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, raising an army of faithful undead would be awesome, nice idea! Imagine being the kingdom's Necromancer, bringing back all your country's heroes to save you once more, that'd be so tantalizing.
@florianneugebauer7062
@florianneugebauer7062 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just here to learn to improve my English.
@Chazza_1201
@Chazza_1201 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck, I hope you prevail in your quest
@DuskyPredator
@DuskyPredator 6 жыл бұрын
When doing the quest in Witcher 3, I was kind of wondering if it was tainting the land around it, that at some point it might create a new location with necrophages, the sort of thing Geralt is always fighting.
@thexith
@thexith 6 жыл бұрын
Witnessing Yennefer perform such a VILE and Painful practice would indefinitely wake up that small tint of Guilt and Empathy most Bleak Warriors in the Witcher Universe lack.
@SugaryPhoenixxx
@SugaryPhoenixxx 6 жыл бұрын
It turns me on when Yennefer is a bad girl.
@henners8910
@henners8910 6 жыл бұрын
lynnthegreat10 Look at Ted Bundy over here 😂
@chiefpurrfect8389
@chiefpurrfect8389 6 жыл бұрын
Well, as you might have noticed, Yennefer is not the kind of character to wear her emotions on her sleeves. There are small hints mostly in body language and voice acting (and god did CDPR and Denise Gough do a brilliant job with that) that show she's uncomfortable with what happened, like her reaction and subtle facial twitch after the skelligan women told her that "none will open their door to her, none will tend to her wounds yada yada". Plus she took full responsibility and lied that Geralt tried to stop her. That ought to count for something too. Also why DO You write Like This
@thexith
@thexith 6 жыл бұрын
Chief Purrfect Your question at the ends sounds worrying? Is something wrong with the way I write?
@chiefpurrfect8389
@chiefpurrfect8389 6 жыл бұрын
Just looked like some random caps, not worthy of dwelling into really.
@Shigemorii
@Shigemorii 6 жыл бұрын
These cinematic shots & book-like narratives are to live for! Thank you & much love!! ❤️
@skx5190
@skx5190 6 жыл бұрын
So when are we going to get a witcher video about the vampires?
@DrewmoraYT
@DrewmoraYT 6 жыл бұрын
SKX it’s a BIG video... but it’s coming 😊
@skx5190
@skx5190 6 жыл бұрын
I get that but it's been awhile now and still nothing.
@dakotafawson1223
@dakotafawson1223 6 жыл бұрын
SKX I can’t wait for that. Better have some unseen elder action.
@Chazza_1201
@Chazza_1201 3 жыл бұрын
It’s there now lol
@RadagonTheRed
@RadagonTheRed 5 жыл бұрын
Challenge for the narrator. Say this sentence aloud: _”Three thin thespians thoroughly thought their thesis thusly. Though they threw their thin thistles throughout, the third thwarted them thankfully thinking their thanksgiving thrusting thoroughbred thyroids.”_
@seanlauziere8796
@seanlauziere8796 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant philosophical take!!! Please do more of these :) keep up the great work!
@kyara7032
@kyara7032 6 жыл бұрын
No it's just recycling
@honestkyn718
@honestkyn718 6 жыл бұрын
Necromancy is the bestomancy
@Practitioner_of_Diogenes
@Practitioner_of_Diogenes 6 жыл бұрын
What about Lesbomancy?
@Synthia17
@Synthia17 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff! Extra points for reading the books :) Also worth mentioning that Yennefer said what it felt like, having slimy worms in your mouth or standing around, covered in manure.
@zedek_
@zedek_ 6 жыл бұрын
9:04 Eh, it's not uncommon for necromancy in fantasy games to be much more than merely binding souls to corpse. Often you call back souls directly, or interact with spirits (who apparently won't feel pain) in many ways.
@bigbadwolf7368
@bigbadwolf7368 6 жыл бұрын
Well if a dead body had information about my missing daughter and I have the power/magic to get such information. I would do exactly what yennefer did no matter how painful or damaging to the surrounding areas. Yen loves her little witcher Ciri and I don't blame her.
@beno25058
@beno25058 4 жыл бұрын
even if its someone from your family ,or someone you love?
@True_Believer100
@True_Believer100 3 жыл бұрын
This was the saddest and darkest part of the game for me personally, I honestly almost couldn't continue.
@ProfessorLooney95
@ProfessorLooney95 4 жыл бұрын
This is why I'm on the internet, I love this speculation, feels like I'm back in the world. Your Witcher videos are fantastic 👌
@Dirtydunton
@Dirtydunton 6 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video, I am a fan of discussion of the philosophical and moral ideas presented in the Witcher!
@nickypenn5841
@nickypenn5841 4 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome explanation, but you should try compare and analyze the ritual done by the Pellar in Forefathers' Eve. Nevertheless, this is very good.
@mangolover6039
@mangolover6039 6 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to play this game again after the cancerous final exams
@sohi7431
@sohi7431 5 жыл бұрын
so how did the exams go
@sohi7431
@sohi7431 5 жыл бұрын
@Fake Account:(
@JustAnotherAccount8
@JustAnotherAccount8 4 жыл бұрын
thats the one thing that made me question choosing yen in my first playthrough over triss
@neonseacow
@neonseacow 5 жыл бұрын
This video was amazing! The shots and the script! I'd love to see you do more. Even if it's some small lore stuff
@scrollkeeper5272
@scrollkeeper5272 4 жыл бұрын
Even in games where you get different forms of necromancy which divide into combat and reanimation subclasses; it is prevalent that many of the combat ones inflict suffering. Divinity Original Sin 2 for example has a necromancy spell that damages the target when the caster takes damage.
@maj562
@maj562 6 жыл бұрын
Drew the GOAT, I listen to you as a big fan as well as individual looking to expand my vocabulary lol. Have to be honest, if you had another channel where it was purely your work, id sub. Keep it up!
@thatdudewelove8498
@thatdudewelove8498 6 жыл бұрын
curious, would the quest like 'Forefather's Eve' be similar to necromancy?
@t.abellard6280
@t.abellard6280 5 жыл бұрын
No, it's not. It's just an incredibly intense and risky form of magic.
@neatherloard
@neatherloard 6 жыл бұрын
You did touch on the nexromancy of the peller. His rites to appease wandering spirits, and his blood rite to help Geralt find the barons daughter both seem justified, if a bit dangerous, and one is a local custom generally accepted by the common people.
@the_jingo
@the_jingo 5 жыл бұрын
"my name is Drew" I heard you said "my name is True" at first lmao
@jefthereaper
@jefthereaper 6 жыл бұрын
Depends mostly, while Necromancers raise corpses and bind spirits against their will, there are also the rare mages who use the same power to first request the spirits aid, or even ask if they are willing to be bound so they can either achieve goals they were unable in life, or simply to aid said mage in their endeavors. Skeletons of mighty long passed warriors given new armor and weapons while using their skill to the best of their ability in the name of their new master that provides them the link to the mortal world. We need more games who use Necromancy in that way.
@sawysauce1256
@sawysauce1256 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine in these mythical fantasy worlds necromancy is like choosing to be a donor on your driver's license, every peasant in the land has a little ID that says "Necro" on it with a little skull next to it.
@thespook1482
@thespook1482 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, how about a Butcher Pete build for Fallout? He’s already got his own theme song on Diamond City Radio, I think it would be fantastic! Hacking and whacking and slashing with a clever and the lady killer perk with max charisma.
@TuetchenR
@TuetchenR 6 жыл бұрын
It makes me sad to see that these analytical videos are way less popular then the other kind
@teddys5775
@teddys5775 6 жыл бұрын
i always think back to the dustmen in planescape. only res those who sign a contract allowing them to do so and it has no negative spiritual effects on the bodys former host.
@TheScottelias
@TheScottelias 5 жыл бұрын
Great video man!
@tatsusama3192
@tatsusama3192 6 жыл бұрын
I still need to watch through a Let's Play of The Witcher 3. I've watched through 1 and 2. This series is what made me want to look into it. Thanks, Drew. Great work
@g.o.d.6752
@g.o.d.6752 6 жыл бұрын
I recommend watching gophers playthrough. He has a very thorough playthrough of all of the games. The game is also very much worth playing so you could do that too if you feel like it.
@tatsusama3192
@tatsusama3192 6 жыл бұрын
Nice. Usually my go to is Gamer's Little Playground. I'll look into this Gopher. Thanks
@jamonteburns6073
@jamonteburns6073 6 жыл бұрын
I second this suggestion
@jamonteburns6073
@jamonteburns6073 6 жыл бұрын
Melchior Magni not everyone has the disposable income or the desire to purchase gaming platforms and $60 games
@OrganizationXIII
@OrganizationXIII 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamonteburns6073 get a better job
@wolfganggreunke5887
@wolfganggreunke5887 6 жыл бұрын
Please do a Skyrim lore video on what each afterlife is like, depending on who you worship. I will post this on every video uploaded after this one until it is done, or personally refused by FudgeMuppet.
@domuzpipisi
@domuzpipisi 6 жыл бұрын
LOL
@mithrandirsilvertongue1406
@mithrandirsilvertongue1406 6 жыл бұрын
Wolfgang Greunke don’t give up!
@Hatti69
@Hatti69 6 жыл бұрын
Skyrim dosent have a lore
@Chrysaetos11
@Chrysaetos11 6 жыл бұрын
It actually has way more than TW3, just as TES is more rich than Witcher universe, with all the creation myths, different era's, aedra and daedra, histories of the provinces and races, etc. Witcher universe is more about a group of characters, more story driven, but the lore pales in comparison to TES. I love both and have read Witcher books so I'm not biased.TES has more lore than TW. It's one bookcase (TW) versus a library (TES). Don't believe me.. just check both of the wikia's, compare ingame books, etc.
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica 6 жыл бұрын
Chrysaetos11 might be bigger, sure, but it's more bland and boring, stereotypical fantasy while the Witcher has less, much more fleshed out lore.
@lillypharaoh5945
@lillypharaoh5945 2 жыл бұрын
In my culture necromancy is basically calling upon the demon equivalent of the dead person (every person has a companion demon that looks like them, and has almost all their characteristics in an evil version with the bad traits highlighted and good traits dilated, that demonic creature/qarin djinn looks like a scary looking version of the person who lives by their side 24/7 putting evil notions in their head and affecting them in different ways ) this demon soul twin knows everything about the person since they are with them from the time they are born to the day they die and know everything that goes on in their mind and soul, so how necromancy works is the witch/magician call upon this twin djinn and summon it into the decomposing body of the dead person to communicate with it and know all the information that the dead person knew since that twin djinn is the only one who knows everything the dead person knew, but the dead person's soul is not involved since it's dead and only God has the strength or authority to actually bring the real soul back into the body and in that case the body would be healed and fixed and brought back to life not decomposing or broken, necromancy is viewed as evil and devilish in my religion/culture
@thegr1mmr3aper67
@thegr1mmr3aper67 6 жыл бұрын
Have you thought of making a video on the event ( i forgot the name ) where the witchers,magic, and monsters apererd
@UsmevavyPanacek
@UsmevavyPanacek 6 жыл бұрын
From how it is shown it seems, that you need to pour enough energy into the body for basically reseting it, turning on even higher functions, which must be quite painful experience for the consciounsness- all nerves signaling incredible pain from whole body torn apart by decay, blood spilling from veins too rotten to work properly, tearing while trying to pump clumped blood.. ewwwww.. maybe in combination with some soothing magic, but the act of just reanimating the body alone seems to be too taxing..
@maledwarfwarrior
@maledwarfwarrior 6 жыл бұрын
Could it be possible to make an order similar to the knights of the ebon blade? An order of undead knights dedicated to the redemption of the dead & damned, offering a second chance to those who regret the choices they made in life. Choosing to endure the pain of reanimation in an attempt redeem themselves from an eternity of suffering in hell.. Such an order may have purpose, especially as the last witchers begin to die of old age.
@caroline.567
@caroline.567 6 жыл бұрын
Morality is subjective. People will have different ideas as to what is and isn’t “evil” - it seems to me that necromancy is very much a bad idea, but I’m not sure that it’s inherently evil. Like others have said, the cost is high. I find it ironic that so many people condemn Yennefer for using necromancy as a last resort to find her adopted daughter, when Geralt is constantly butchering people and stealing and shit...I don’t see it as so black and white. Geralt and Yennefer are both imperfect neutral good characters. I mean, Triss didn’t help quite as much when it came to finding Ciri, did she?
@willriseabove6858
@willriseabove6858 5 жыл бұрын
morality isn't subjective theres obvious evil an good always at play even between the grey. what's dead has paid its price for the sins an deeds its life has done an deserves rest. theres absolutely no good forcing someone agienst their will to serve you or be bound to a decayed corpse for whatever purpose you have in mind. saying otherwise is like saying slavery is grey natured when all things should be free naturally.
@caroline.567
@caroline.567 5 жыл бұрын
@@willriseabove6858 I see slavery as morally wrong, but not everyone would say so - in fact, the Bible, of all things, repeatedly condones slavery - and many Christians believe that what is moral and amoral is dictated by God in the Bible (which I obviously disagree with). No one has been able to find a perfect definition or source of morality, unless there's a philosopher that I'm not aware of, whose definition of what is and isn't moral hasn't been found to be faulty. I think that stealing in dire situations is moral. I think that breaking other laws in certain situations can be moral. Most people agree that killing is wrong (but some will rescind that statement when it comes to war, self-defense, or even religious extremism. Sorry for the paragraphs, but that's my opinion explained.
@metalgauntlet3731
@metalgauntlet3731 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Fudgemuppet friends, you guys keep seeing where necromancy is all evil BUT if you want to see some other ideas on it you could check out some D&D lore. I know there was a group of elves who kept their wisest elders and such reanimated as teachers. Just a cool different use.
@afterfall8133
@afterfall8133 6 жыл бұрын
I Just want to see how TYROMANCY USE CHEESE AS MAGIC in witcher
@kylebrooks338
@kylebrooks338 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why exactly but the spell that yen does makes me real uncomfortable and it was probably the only time in the game I felt truly bad about what happened to the garden
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica 6 жыл бұрын
I killed Kiera for wanting to play with the wizards experiments (I think it was necromancy? Can't remember) but didn't complain when Yen revived Skjall so they could find Ciri. It's justified based on the situation, and how much someone matters to another. Also depends on cultures, with their laws and funeral rites. Personally, I believe it depends on the situation, like the case of Freya's Garden
@lionelwhiskerknot
@lionelwhiskerknot 3 жыл бұрын
Depends how you use it. I think if you brought a greedy politician back as a zombie to serve as servant for menial tasks it would be fitting.
@93parasol
@93parasol 5 жыл бұрын
I love your videos so much!!
@snakesonaframe2668
@snakesonaframe2668 6 жыл бұрын
Would LOVE more witcher videos!
@edmac3651
@edmac3651 6 жыл бұрын
Necromancy is perfectly fine and that thigh at 4:22 excuses all wrongdoing.
@River_StGrey
@River_StGrey 4 жыл бұрын
I think if you had an order of posthumous healer necromancers, you could make a good case for it not being evil. Geralt engages with wraiths and goes about the specific rituals of granting them peace all the time, which in a limited sense is at least engaging with necromancy. Granted, it's a naturally occurring form of it, and one that needs to be engaged with if it's causing harm to others, but there's no real reason mages can't work to alleviate suffering from the dead. Skjal might not be remanifesting as a wraith on his own, but I'm sure his spirit suffers in the afterlife, knowing it was shamed and cast out of the only community and family it ever knew, and probably experiences some amount of justified anger at having been cast out, despite the fact he did behave honorably. If you take that situation, then by using necromancy you can offer peace and catharsis to departed spirits. Particularly in the case of The Witcher, where the revived body is suffering physiological pain due to decomposition, you can just as well inject the entire body with opiate and euphorant-like substances that kick in once the central nervous system has been turned back on. That would eliminate the physical suffering aspect of reviving someone, by granting them the physical means to be experiencing pleasure and a relief from pain. Combine that with developing a larger practice, in which the necromancer brings emotional relief to the revived in the form of expressed love, appreciation, and gratitude from family and community, and you could well be working toward sending the spirit back into the afterlife with a feeling of fulfillment and closure. So, I think if you designed procedures around the cessation of suffering and the empowerment of closure, you could well make necromancy a humane and cathartic practice. Particularly in the case of trying to learn something from a spirit, if you're able to convey the goodness they are doing for your life and in the world after their death, while bringing something to offer them to take back, then the whole thing could be very reciprocal and rewarding. There will still be assholes who just want what they want and will inflict whatever pain they need to on others in order to get it, but then that becomes a question of when the applied use of necromancy is good vs when it is evil. Doing it this way could also be used to prevent the emergence of vengeful wraiths, pestas, and the like. If you can grant closure to a spirit before it remanifests, you'll have saved all the lives it would have taken in it's grief. Lastly, as for the resource cost, I don't see any reason why areas of powerful magic or with lots of magically potent life couldn't be cultivated, specifically for the reason of utilizing in this kind of practice. That way you aren't depleting sacred sites like Yen did. And as the craft is developed, I'm sure mages would find ways to reduce the raw resource requirements of the spells. Necromancy, as it is, is horribly unrefined.
@River_StGrey
@River_StGrey 4 жыл бұрын
lmao, just realized I made the case for Necromantic Therapists.
@AliBaba-sw4ej
@AliBaba-sw4ej 6 жыл бұрын
The guild has never been the same ever since Archmage Traven’s reforms
@aaron6807
@aaron6807 6 жыл бұрын
wish this video had more attention
@swapertxking
@swapertxking 6 жыл бұрын
nothing is truly evil, although it can be judged upon its merits, and use. Necromancy isn't evil in the traditional sense, but it does play a line of disrespect of those who have passed.
@robert23456789
@robert23456789 6 жыл бұрын
its not evil its just outlawed due to what it dos to the world around it .. like did you see the area after yen used it ... it was fucked up
@tyrantonion6660
@tyrantonion6660 4 жыл бұрын
What's the fine for necrophilia in that part of the continent?
@RockTheKorn
@RockTheKorn 6 жыл бұрын
Ever thought about doing a Character Build Series on The Witcher?
@lightyagami8645
@lightyagami8645 4 жыл бұрын
Well Yennefer using Necromancy saved the world indirectly while Mannimarco using it almost destroyed it , it depends on how its used .
@possummagic3571
@possummagic3571 2 жыл бұрын
I'll bring back a thousand children before let this company die!
@sebastianalejandrovielmaro5261
@sebastianalejandrovielmaro5261 5 жыл бұрын
Considering necromancy as a literature subject in the fantasy genre, Evil per sé it is not. Unethical? I consider that is the real question and the answer is yes. Now that answer is also conditioned to the lore of any specific fantasy universe created per title in the fntasy genre
@CallSignAlza
@CallSignAlza 5 жыл бұрын
Using magic as a Witcher is witch magic
@qdllc
@qdllc 5 жыл бұрын
This is a complicated question. Unless the mythos of a story clearly states that necromancy is forcing the soul of a person back into a dead body, it's nothing more than "reanimation." Reanimating a decaying corpse would be painful for the corpse. Imagine having your body in serious disrepair but you're alive and all "systems" are functioning. You'd be in serious pain. The corpse is not "alive" in its own right. Once the spell ends, it "dies" again. Clearly the act requires an abundance of "life energy" in the vicinity to make it work as you drain from one to give to another. Hence why Yen wanted to do it where she did...drawing on the life force of plants rather than another living creature/person. So, from a moral standpoint, it's not torturing a departed soul, and unless you use a living person as a source of energy to reanimate a corpse, you're not killing or harming one to aid another. I can see necromancy being banned or shunned because of the potential for dark acts and agendas by/of the wielder. As I followed the story, Yen did not make the choice to perform necromancy lightly. The urgency to find Ciri justified most any tactic used to find her. She knew it was risky but saw it as the only realistic option. A similar concept was done in Babylon 5 where Sheridan asks Lyta to do a "death bed scan," in spite of her protestations. Being in a "dying mind" at the moment of death changed the telepath doing the session and was to be avoided. Sheridan insisted because of the desperate need for what the person knew but couldn't tell them in his comatose state. As such, there may be an associated risk in necromancy...even when done with the best of intentions.
@valenpaul
@valenpaul 6 жыл бұрын
Nice vid!
@monsterbash9758
@monsterbash9758 6 жыл бұрын
I usually think of necromancy as keeping people from the afterlife even if it isn't explicitly stated in a game/movie/book's lore. In Skyrim and D&D people like to say they're just animating a corpse with magic so they can play good/heroic necromancers. Just seems lame to me.
@cana1526
@cana1526 6 жыл бұрын
I think it's inherently evil, but necessary in times of need such as in the witcher 3
@dariusnoname12
@dariusnoname12 3 жыл бұрын
Golems exist, so there is no reason to believe that similar concept cannot be applied to necromancy. That leaves all negatives out (except one using the body)
@drewcipher896
@drewcipher896 5 жыл бұрын
Magic exists to serve man and never to rule over him.
@lavberia5419
@lavberia5419 5 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there 😗
@adamthompson6669
@adamthompson6669 6 жыл бұрын
👋 and thank you. Great work drew 🔥 🔥
@charlieclark9552
@charlieclark9552 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a spell to raise the dead in the witcher games, and by that I mean a spell we can use in combat
@the_dropbear4392
@the_dropbear4392 6 жыл бұрын
Charlie Clark no
@animorph17
@animorph17 6 жыл бұрын
Considering what we know about the gods in this universe (Looking at you, Gaunter) and just how disgusting and horrible nature itself tends to be in this world, anything the gods despise and that nature abhors can't be that inherently awful. Rather it's just something the gods and nature don't want you messing with, because it affects them directly. I can think of an easy solution to the whole "corpse in unnatural agony" aspect, just refine the spell to remove nerve connections. There are mortal humans who can't feel pain as a result of faulty wiring, this can't be too hard to induce. Pretty sure most of the innately negative aspects is just the world trying to stop you from ruining their dominance. Since when have any of the gods cared in the slightest about mortal suffering, and in what instance has nature objected to the idea of a creature in pain? Botflies exist. Necromancy is nothing compared to that dread horror.
@bigrex5075
@bigrex5075 4 жыл бұрын
Shtaaaahhhppp itt huurrrttsss Yen: what?
@Killjoy97_
@Killjoy97_ 5 жыл бұрын
necromancers are just late healers.
@clericofgreed4351
@clericofgreed4351 6 жыл бұрын
O common media i just want a undead army not a tourture party but what if the mages came up with a spell that dus not bring the soul back but just their memory's and skills and then the force moving the body is just your magick.
@YABBAHEY1
@YABBAHEY1 6 жыл бұрын
Necromancy or Church of Eternal Fire ? If I had to choose.....my zombie army once they figured out how to use a bridge would eat anything wearing a chinstrap. Yea Novigrad , we're coming.
@Zeta0104
@Zeta0104 6 жыл бұрын
Oh boy next witcher game gonna be lit. (maybe) No seriously with death everwhere a coven of mages could theoretically build an undead army and establish a small nation for magic users. That would make for an interesting moral dilemma befitting for the world of The Witcher. Mages who want to help people and are good in nature no longer being persecuted within but at the cost of the suffering of the dead whether they were evil in life or not. ... plus I really like the idea of a Lich as the potential main villain. Unkillable by regular means and extremely powerful. And on top of that with less emotions than even a witcher.
@essaly7969
@essaly7969 6 жыл бұрын
1) As far as I know, there are no Lich in The Witcher universe. 2) Building and undead army would be extremely hard. Yennefer had to drain the energy of the entire sacred garden to reanimate a corpse temporarily and make him talk. 3) CD Projekt RED is currently working on Cyberpunk 2077, and isn't planning any Witcher 4 at this point in time.
@SaFeXxRandomxX
@SaFeXxRandomxX 6 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail ahhahhahahahahhha poor Skjall😂😂😂
@dominicmanester8125
@dominicmanester8125 5 жыл бұрын
Is it still evil if the dead deserve it? Criminals put to death for crimes no mortal punishment could equal. Setting criminal zombies loose on your enemy before the main army could save many lives.
@ariwiguna2633
@ariwiguna2633 6 жыл бұрын
do not disturb the dead
@kennymagwag1423
@kennymagwag1423 6 жыл бұрын
Can you guys try making a kratos/god of war build for Skyrim, what with the release of the new game I think it’d be a good idea 👍🏻👍🏻
@kennymagwag1423
@kennymagwag1423 6 жыл бұрын
Ideas for the build being: •Hatred of all religion and gods •Will fight with the inperials and claim his status as a warrior (plus the stormcloaks are talks worshipers) •Nord/imperial •one handed specialist/dual wield •although being Dragonborn means he is under kynes ‘bidding’ he still likes the idea of having godlike powers I have no more ideas so far but I’ll think of more and comment on the next video, please consider I’m a big fan 👍🏻👍🏻
@kennymagwag1423
@kennymagwag1423 6 жыл бұрын
Talos**
@aulerius1922
@aulerius1922 6 жыл бұрын
Kenny Magwag Denied
@kennymagwag1423
@kennymagwag1423 6 жыл бұрын
Aulerius *plays sad song in head*
@alyshakhan5909
@alyshakhan5909 6 жыл бұрын
So amazing, in my opinion I don't think they're. Necromancy can be used in many ways and forms. Just depends on who has it xD
@niamhmorrissey2187
@niamhmorrissey2187 6 жыл бұрын
Alysha Khan There's not alot of variety in using Necromancy in the Witcher. It's not like Skyrim where you can raise the dead and they'll fight for you until they die again. The body can barely move and the soul can't cope with being reattached to the body, which causes immense pain for the victim of Necromancy. You can use it for the GREATER good. But it's still ultimately an evil side of magic that even the most powerful sorceresses don't like using.
@prompto1548
@prompto1548 6 жыл бұрын
What if necromancy was used to bring dead animals and monsters back to life instead of humans? Would that still be considered wrong?
@TheWhiteWolf68
@TheWhiteWolf68 6 жыл бұрын
It wasn't a soldier it was a witcher from the school of the cat who became an assassin
@nataliamortenson2937
@nataliamortenson2937 6 жыл бұрын
Is Witcher like Skyrim? I've never played it before, but I've watched a few videos and it looks pretty good.
@CrowBag
@CrowBag 6 жыл бұрын
Natalia Mortenson noooooo, theres nothing in common with the two. Once you go witcher you will never go back to skyrim.
@dahken417
@dahken417 6 жыл бұрын
Ghost Nappa Though Witcher 3 has way better graphics, voice acting, and stories, I still find more replay value and fun in Skyrim. You can make the Last Dragonborn be whoever you want, while Geralt will always be Geralt; he'll just be more of an asshole in some playthroughs than others.
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty 6 жыл бұрын
Better than skyrim.
@CrowBag
@CrowBag 6 жыл бұрын
Spherical Orc Turd that is also true, modded skyrim can be hilarious also. I am talking about vanilla skyrim though.
@92ladderley
@92ladderley 6 жыл бұрын
If you've not played it then what are you waiting for? Get it! It's a really well made game that's more intense in it's story and gameplay than Skyrim. Seriously this is a game with a soul.
@RDBcheckout
@RDBcheckout 6 жыл бұрын
what about lesbomancy though?
@etinarcadiaego7424
@etinarcadiaego7424 6 жыл бұрын
Don Ultrino Does watching girl-on girl videos for eighteen straight hours on Pornhub count as lesbomancy?
@OmbraEterea
@OmbraEterea 6 жыл бұрын
my favorite type of magic
@Banana_Zach
@Banana_Zach 6 жыл бұрын
It only works if you are the Avatar and people have to deal with it.
@ulquiorraschiffer1956
@ulquiorraschiffer1956 6 жыл бұрын
Just gab just like you?
@merlin4392
@merlin4392 5 жыл бұрын
Don Ultrino ah...I see you're versed in vagick
@hrs.ai2018
@hrs.ai2018 3 жыл бұрын
Yes , absolutely
@supernova582
@supernova582 6 жыл бұрын
evil is a point of view like right and wrong
@Banana_Zach
@Banana_Zach 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, and that feeling in your face is just your nervous system telling you about the slap I just sent you.
@supernova582
@supernova582 6 жыл бұрын
Then I reply is that all you got?! Then I punch you in self defense to o show you I'm no pushover
@DapimpBDSD
@DapimpBDSD 5 жыл бұрын
Not evil, but frowned upon
@ryanmcgrath339
@ryanmcgrath339 6 жыл бұрын
They got to make The Witcher part1 part2 on the Ps4
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