THE BREAKING OF THE NIGHT LORDS! THE DEATH OF CURZE!

[@chrisbennett6236]

Konrad Curze died long before the assassin took Night Haunter's head.

[@Butter_Warrior99]

I mean it was basically assisted suicide.

[@T0mN7]

"Tell them only, that the Night Haunter is dead. And that Konrad Curze died with him."

[@CBRN-115]

@@T0mN7 it's been a long time since I've seen this reference

[@Truegrade]

😢

[@TheDiscord1]

Can you imagine running full speed through a hoarde of night lords carrying their primarch's head? While they hissed at you and cursed? Man I'd be terrified.

[@doomguy9049]

The head must weigh a ton too

[@Normalguy1690]

Then hearing the thundering footsteps of one chasing after you. 😳 yea no thanks.

[@TheDiscord1]

Yeah no doubt. All of that is a hard nope for me.

[@alastor8091]

Her pants were definitely several types of shitty.

[@chrisbennett6236]

Talos was extremely intelligent, even for an Astartes but he was just as head strong. No way he let's his father's death remain unavenged.

[@attemptedunkindness3632]

Dorn would approve.

[@edim108]

Curze is a truly fascinating character. He loathes himself, what he had become and wants death, but at the same time, he cannot kill himself because that would mean betraying everything he believes in. He can't kill himself but he also can't stand living. Curze is absolutely my favourite Primarch of them all. The psychological torture he goes through is truly heartbreaking. I love imagining the universe where Curze stays loyal. There are so many ways in which he could have stayed Loyalist, which makes it so much more tragic that he didn't...

[@MrFallenone]

The little chat he had with Sanguinius in the throne room of imperium secundus was one of the best moments in all the books from the horus heresy.

[@JudicialBrat]

Loyalist Sons of Curze you say? Carcharadons

[@rkenshin364]

All Curze needed was a hug man

[@Aristaios]

had Magnus been there like during the Dornian Heresy then maybe this could of all been avoided

[@GodlordBazi]

@@Aristaios Dornian Heresy: Emperor: "Rogal, why have you betrayed me, my son?" Dorn: "...hmpf." **The End**

[@Chrisofthemount]

Curze died the day that the Emperor found him. He just embraced his insanity during the Heresy. When he had a final breath of sanity, he allowed Justice to be served.

[@conan2096]

curze and angron were the smartest primarchs, they wanted to die the moment he met them lol.

[@Yokemeister]

@@conan2096 mind explaining why?

[@crazychinese7315]

@@Yokemeister most because they had realised how much they have fallen.. Though, I think Angron noticed that much later

[@GodlordBazi]

@@crazychinese7315 Yes, Angron in a way was more like Perturabo. They had an attitude of, "Fuck it, if Big E wants me to be a war machine, I'm gonna be the meanest war machine he has ever seen." Along with Konrad, they maintained a very dark sense of self irony till someday reality broke through and irony became lethargy. That's why Konrad is probably my favourite Primarch, though I'm a Space Corgi player.

[@attemptedunkindness3632]

I think Curze is acting out his death and "godliness" and letting his talons be as they now are in a twisted mockery of what he realized was what his own Father was doing all along in his bid with the Old Gods. Afterall, "What is death compared to vindication?" He demonstrated both the fragility of the self imposed justice of the imperium while making a mockery perhaps of the deepest schemes of the Emperor.

[@AdamMichalMarkowski]

Assassin was far to smug for her own good. Also being like: "oh, I'm on noclip, so gonna yoink bunch of shit as well" was not a big brain move.

[@nicoruppert4207]

Stealing relics for the Empire, Britain style. 😎

[@carloreneeventura8714]

The Assassin was "ALLOWED" to finish her mission, yet she so smug and full of herself about it that she paraded her trophy as if she worked for it

[@toomaskotkas4467]

"Girl power"!

[@nicoruppert4207]

She took his head because it's what Assassins do to prove their kills. It's not parading out of pride, It's her damn job to kill traitors and mutilate their corpses. A traitor primarch's severed head is a BIG win for the empire, why are you so bothered that SHE took his head and lived?

[@Andrew-yl7lm]

@@nicoruppert4207 lol not the head, she tools relics from the legion. That's where it went too far

[@nicoruppert4207]

@@Andrew-yl7lm Relics that rightfully belong to the Imperium mind you.

[@daozzyone]

I would highly recommend the night lords trilogy too anyone. ADB is a fantastic writer

[@blagnerd9212]

Classics

[@JSTaylor556]

100% agreed.

[@sholmes019]

My favorite 40k series by far. The narrator for the audiobooks does an amazing job.

[@bradwad]

is it part of the HH series? gonna start it soon been meaning to start reading more 40k

[@sholmes019]

@@bradwad nope it's 40k. But it has some of the best characters of any series. Talos and the rest of first claw are one badass group of psychos. I won't be really ruining anything by saying this bc you won't know the context, but in one part, they basically torture a bunch of people so bad and in such a messed up way, that dozens of planets get wrecked and cut off from the imperium. So epic.

[@eddiejohansson8040]

i could never comprehend how the emperor didn't immediately kill Curze after he started flaying ppl but then i remember that the blood angels sometimes feast upon the flesh of their enemies

[@stephenwiseman1712]

Let’s not forget the blood thirsty, neural steroid berserkers of the world eaters

[@errata]

Emps had many Big Brain moments

[@kenrudd6362]

or the iron warriors....... nothing wrong with them just thought they should be purged

[@MrFallenone]

@@kenrudd6362 why ? They are the purest of the traitor legions. Looking upon those who succumb to chaos as weak.

[@kenrudd6362]

@@MrFallenone HE HAS A GOD DAMN CANNON ON HIS WRIST HE MUST BE STOPPED HE'S TOO POWERFUL PERTURABO AND ALL OF HIS DAMN SONS. thank mortarion for stopping that monster of science and logic

[@Boon2Dock]

CRAWLING IN MY SKIN, THESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEAL!!!!!!

[@MoonBeamLaser]

PURGING WITH MY KINNNNNNNN

[@silentsorrowbane]

Wrong legion

[@tannerallen4074]

I’m sure that I’m biased as a fellow son of nostramo but Talos is by far my favorite character in the warhammer universe. I love the fact that he is a traitor space marine who refused the temptations of Chaos, and follows his own sort of warrior code and is always pursuant of his own vision of the 8th legion being strong and feared once again, despite his brothers being content to small time pillaging and piracy.

[@markrtoffeeman]

I'm convinced that The Night Lords were always intended to be "The Emperor's executioners" rather than the Space Wolves which again had similarities to the War Hounds" (Later to be: World Eaters). The Space Wolves were loyal to the Emperor. To a wolf. The War Hounds would have been so but for what happened with barbaric archeotech being employed in the Butcher's Nails. What of the Night Lords then? Their Primarch was driven mad by the limited futures he could see. The fact remains. The Night Lords were to be the brutal vengeance of The Emperor's wrath when turning from His light. Unfortunately The Night Lords and their primarch failed to fully discern the roles He set for them. Leaving it to the Space Wolves to be the unwilling executioners. A role they were never designed for.

[@femasplasticcoffin4873]

I think that the night lords (if they were not such vile creatures), would be closer to arbiters. Conrad was all about justice and punishment, too bad he became a cannibal in a planet of criminals, with no sunlight nor hope. This twisted his sense of fairness, trial and all that real justice ensures.

[@maxwellfujs6124]

I have to agree, the legions became mirrors of their primarch, but before the discovery they were all Terran. What if Angron never grew up a slave? What if Lorgar never found Faith? What if Perturabo never grew up with a chip on his shoulder from his absent father? Maybe Curze would have been closer to a character like Magnus or similar to what the previous person said, a law-bringer or even a statesman who might enforce laws that were just and not draconian (closer to the Khan)? The scattering screwed everything up.

[@jackhogg634]

The night haunter was supposed to be the emperors judge, sevatar even says this in Prince of crows, and how being a commander and in war drives him mad. To me, Konrad seems like the one who would be the emperors judge, and his legion his justice, while the wolves are his exterminators. The night lords were meant to punish but not eradicate a planet or people, the space wolves are the opposite

[@doomguy9049]

@@jackhogg634 the Dark Angels were meant to be the Emperor’s exterminators

[@echowolf4230]

Sevatar, First Captain of the Night Lords explained why the Space Wolves were the Emperors executioners and not the Night Lords: "Because the Wolves kill cleanly, and we do not. They also kill quickly, and we have never done that, either. They fight, they win, and they stalk back to their ships with their tails held high. If they were ever ordered to destroy another Legion, they would do it by hurling warrior against warrior, seeking to grind their enemies down with the admirable delusions of the 'noble savage'. If we were ever ordered to assault another Legion, we would virus bomb their recruitment worlds; slaughter their serfs and slaves; poison their gene-seed repositories and spend the next dozen decades watching them die slow, humiliating deaths. Night after night, raid after raid, we'd overwhelm stragglers from their fleets and bleach their skulls to hang from our armour, until none remained. But that isn't the quick execution the Emperor needs, is it? The Wolves go for the throat. We go for the eyes. Then the tongue. Then the hands. Then the feet. Then we skin the crippled remains, and offer it up as an example to any still bearing witness. The Wolves were warriors before they became soldiers. We were murderers first, last, and always!"

[@TeutonicKnight92]

It also serves to remember that durning the end of the Thramas Crusade after Curze and Sevatar have been captured the senior officers of legion are debating not only if they can launch a rescue mission but if they even want Curze back.

[@brianrhodes9228]

This was the first series I collected from Black Library. I remember waiting excitedly for Void Stalker to come out while I was in hIgh school. Good times!

[@cgavin1]

IMHO they are among the best three books BL ever published. Genuinely good reads.

[@ThatGuy-zz2fb]

I feel that the Legion could've been saved if Curze had stopped recruiting from Nostramo sooner. If it weren't made solely of criminals and degenerates, it could've held together without Curze to enforce order.

[@datsundes]

“No surprise that the captains would seek to claim the primarchs relics, to rule in his stead.” You’re right, Abbaddon did the same with Horus’s legion and relics.

[@daverage4729]

"Talos, I name you....Soul Hunter!" Christ, Konrad you're the primarch of the Night Lords, not the Edge Lords.

[@mannmannmanifred1316]

Lmao they are one in the same lmao!

[@SpectralArrow]

Night Haunter's crown had an empty soulstone on it, and the book ends introducing a suitable Night lords psyker to wear it. So don't count the Night Lord out just yet! He may return phoenix lord style once Decimus wears the crown. That Will be a Scary Day for the Imperium. Ave Dominus Nox.

[@SpectralArrow]

I believe the crown was referred to as having a dark intelligence in it and being kept in the black library. So unless Tzeentch tricks Ahriman into grabbing it if/when he finds the library for a hilarious show when Night Haunter returns, I can't see the night lords getting it ( Just sayin tho, Ahriman IS trying to get to the library, AND a Returned Night Haunter Would Cause ALOT of problems, seems like the kinda problems Tzeentch would find very useful )

[@PandaSey25]

*Konrad sees the tyranids coming* "F*CK THIS S**T! I'M OUT!! "

[@MSmith-sd9ci]

I always like the nightlords they are cowards and criminals to the bone and make for a great villains.

[@TheHandofDestiny]

Wouldn't say cowards but criminals yeah

[@randomcenturion7264]

@@TheHandofDestiny Oh they are most certainly cowards. And they are proud of it. The First Claw's motto was, "If we are met with a fair fight, run away from it." To a man, they only ever fight if their opponent is either weaker than them or if they can use the dirtiest of tactics.

[@TheHandofDestiny]

@@randomcenturion7264 I mean I don't see it as cowardice, why would you fight when you know you could do it later and have the advantage, one of the few times when common sense exists in 40k

[@sliverfox2868]

Send in the VIII

[@timtim6373]

@@TheHandofDestiny it’s cowardice if you ‘re fighting it And it’s smart strategy if you’re the one doing it

[@alphariusomegon1637]

Talos was a true son of Konrad, while the other Night Lords sought the assassin for the sake of a crown Talos hunted her for vengeance pure and simple in its purpose. That is why he is the Soul Hunter, the one son who believed the creed.

[@gadrielvanorion9872]

hey maybe his soul is in the noctum crown

[@chrisbennett6236]

Sounds like Curze knew Talos would kill the assassin.

[@Kristian.B.Kristiansen]

He did, he predicted it, and referred to Talos as Soul Hunter for that reason, more then 200 years before his death.

[@MasterIceyy]

@@Kristian.B.Kristiansen Soul hunter implies he also knew that his soul would be trapped within the soul stone of his crown. So maybe curze has a plan

[@jimminey-fooking-cricket4903]

Well you cover the Talon Master Zso Sahaal or just touch upon the crown?

[@Lorian667]

The Night Lords where broken long before his death.

[@randomcenturion7264]

Unlike the 12th or 14th, I can't really say Curze was the one that ruined his Legion. On the one hand, he was batshit crazy by the end of it. On the other, most of them chose to be this vile. It's a pity. If Konrad won the mental struggle against Night Haunter, the Night Lords could've been something better. Vicious and cruel, but a necessary evil.

[@calumdeighton]

Another Night Lords video. And another adding to the collection, of Archival material on everything on my Favourite Legion. Ave Dominus Noctis

[@dontang6906]

Talos wasn't always right... He killed Uzas... Instead of Cyrion for killing the voidborn... Uzas was going to tell Talos that he was framed for killing the voidborn father... But he believed his visions without any context... Without knowing Cyrion charged Uzas from behind.

[@totallynotalpharius2283]

That first picture of the NH just is so so perfect

[@dapanda7270]

Hey man keep up the good work.

[@Noble6Espeo]

I'm certain that, to some degree, the relics were in fact an excuse for more honorable or loyal sons to chase her down. However, given the major composition of the Legion, I have no doubts the pervasive view was genuinely for power and relics even below the captains as the individual company growth could only leave better options for the individuals. AS for if Talos was right for disobeying Kurz's wish, it really depends where you think love shows best. If loyalty, to the reader, is the best means of showing respect and love then no he was not, but to me and I'm sure others, the willingness to sully one's name, to disobey and be hated for it, all to protect or to avenge that which you loved is a more genuine and intense demonstration of love and honor. It may not be the wisest or the most idealized, but to me it is the most honest and the most personal, especially within Chaos, there is nothing more humanizing and real than to tarnish your own name and your own glory for the sake of another.

[@user-le1uk5qr1w]

Completely off subject BUT......has there been any new update on the Eisenhorn TV series that was announced a bit ago? Can anyone comment? Thanks.

[@cratwinterz200]

I’ve checked fairly recently and couldn’t find anything. I would also love to know if someone knows something.

[@Duppyman695]

No News ....... ?

[@user-le1uk5qr1w]

Thanks for the replies

[@undeadherotv1856]

@@user-le1uk5qr1w Found any news on it? :D

[@KingManga360]

oh finally the night lord week have come 👐

[@cyberpunkfalangist2899]

The Night Lords are my favorite traitor legion because of these books

[@FoundingChambers]

I love listening to your stuff while painting my armies 🤘

[@MrMysticphantom]

Konrad lives in that crown!!! ... LET IT BE TRUE

[@oskahuxley6322]

Yeah he is defo in the soul stone.

[@AzraelMajor]

Thank you for reading and breaking down all these events in the books it really helps me as a son of Night Haunter see how the legion reacted to our fathers death. AVE DOMINUS NOX!

[@ShadowPhoenixMaximus]

Would be interesting if whomever acquired the crown could take on the persona of the Night Haunter - akin to how the armour of the Phoenix Lords possess' the user with the personality of the original.

[@obadiahvonhammerstein4553]

YES! I recall putting in a request for a Night Lords video and a couple weeks later, a slew of them appears! Thank you very much!! On the the review, thoughts, and other opinions. It is interesting to read and hear of the Night Lords reaction to their Primarch's death. To find out that the 8th Legion, a legion of made up of murderers, rapists, thieves, and the general scum of Nostramo even before becoming Legiones Astartes still grieved and were stunned into inaction is remarkable itself. This was the response that Roboute Guilliman had expected of the Alpha Legion when he killed "Alpharius." One thing that remains unexplained though is what happened to the Body of Night Haunter/Konrad Kurze. Sure M'Shen takes the Primarch's head, the Corona Nox, and a couple other items, but nothing, NOTHING is told of what happens to his headless corpse!! It remains so frustrating each time I read it! May I remind you that Night Haunter/Konrad Kurze foresaw Talos Valcoran do the the pursuit of M'Shen and why he called him Soul Hunter. The Primarch says this, "Because the name suits you. One soul, my son. One hunt, in the name of revenge. You will hunt one shining soul when all others turn their backs on vengeance." At 16:15 to 16:35 You mention, "halting the flow of recruits coming into the legion," perhaps now their fate could still be saved." he did halt the flow of recruits coming into the Legion. He Destroyed Nostramo! That said I do understand what you mean. If the quality, that is to say the character of the recruits entering the Legion been different, then perhaps things could have been different. But that was not going to happen unless a portion of the Night Lords Legion had remained on Nostramo and reinforced/maintained/repeated? the Primarch's lesson to the populace. Night Haunter/Konrad Kurze repeatedly did that acts that he did to bring about the "peace of a graveyard" to Nostramo, the problem was that once he left their was nothing to stop the Planet from going right back to what it had been doing. The Ultramarines made sure that each world taken would be secure and capable of supporting the supply line of the Great Crusade. The Iron Warriors left garrisons to maintain order. Even Lorgar and his legion made sure to develop their conquered worlds to loyally worship the Emperor before their fall. These three previously listed legions all took steps to ensure compliance of the Population. However there is very little evidence of such action taken by the Night Lords. Perhaps one of the most important lessons that was not embraced or understood by the 8th Legion is that fear eventually fades. People forget, others have no recollection of the terror that previous generations experienced, and others exploit the legacies of the past for their own gains. Honor? Hahahaha! Oh, you are funny! First define honor for a legion of killers, terror specialists, and fear reapers. This was a legion recruited from a world of violent gangs, where the worst of humanity could be seen on a daily basis, and overpopulation was kept down by the sheer number of suicides!! The Primarch had "promised/gifted/said" that these artifacts would be theirs. That these items were taken and their father's seeming unbroken version of the future was changed, only spurred these Night Lords to take back the items, whether in self-interest or in the name of greed. The Night Lords had a very twisted sense of justice, if it can even be called that, but they knew what to do to thieves and those that intruded on their territory. I look forward to your next video.

[@PathiosProductions]

Been seeing you post the night lords on Instagram! So glad you’re on the night lords!!!!!!!

[@willy.b.b3427]

Xarl was such an awesome character though.

[@sarnicholas4053]

My favorite part is how literally everyone tells Uzas to shut the f*ck up whenever he talks. It's so great.

[@8thLegio]

Ave Dominus Nox! This is where the fun begins...

[@MJ-el8ei]

Great video man thanks btw I've heard about the soul stone and some even have suggested that captain Sahal could be the new body of the night haunter by now because he was successful in retrieving the crown

[@MiG_TheBasementBoy]

I've always wondered: What was the assassin's exit strategy when she had done the job? Did she somehow know up front that the Night Lords would let her pass?

[@FleshWise]

Wow, finally a lore excerpt from a book i have actually read.

[@sholmes019]

Haha was my thoughts exactly.

[@sirloin869]

Yeah, they wasn't too broke up when it happened - from talos' viewpoint,at least: best part is when his favored sons see his legion as he did, karma in affect...

[@ttgamefinder3640]

“We have come for you....” - Night lords, the greatest of all legions

[@Nyctophora]

Soul Hunter is also a pun if you say it aloud. He's the only one to hunt the assassin.

[@palpadur1112]

after the Night Haunter's death, the Night Lords were... *Cruzing* for a bruising.

[@dac314]

*finger guns*

[@TeutonicKnight92]

*clap, clap*

[@johnpo2]

Wolf lord rho’s voice so smooth Id listen to lorgars preachings if read in his voice.

[@lourencodecauxbueno5212]

Could you do a what if the Primarchs were never spread through the galaxy and instead, raised by the Emperor himself?

[@grantdelosangeles5357]

It would be boring, Chaos Dies, Eldar get hunted to extinction and Orks would still be there but not on a galactic scale, Tau will be hunted to extinction by the Imperium before even having the tech to leave their home planet.

[@shanegrimes3455]

This is not 40K THEORIES

[@draculwalker1892]

Great video as alwayz brother looking forward to this week 🩸🤘🏻do like some night lordz lore! You alwayz kill it 🍺👍🏻Skol

[@beaverrow9272]

lol ... just iagining the 7 stages of Nighthanter grief here. Imagine denial "Thats not his head its a dead squig youve been feeding Camoline" or pleading "Oh go on Grandad just - Bloop! - ressurection right? I promise not to tell Uncle Kohrne"

[@josephskiles]

I can't help but hope father Curze will come back one day to set all of my errant brothers straight

[@johannesgutmann727]

I am hoping sevatar isn’t coming back

[@josephskiles]

@@johannesgutmann727 I have a sneaking suspicion we haven't seen the last of him honestly

[@banneduser5187]

WE HAVE COME FOR YOU!

[@nachomarine1628]

curze deemed the chapter fallen as he allowed fate to take its course of which corax was aware of, so it sounds to me that corax being a medic no matter how dark the chapter may be he still has a stalwart devotion to help others rather than strike out, so for him to take arms at the front and to disobey orders simply means he is no lackey to the heretical remains of the chapter but simply seeks justification for his fall to heresy as he revs his chainsaw.

[@ItsSpecialOps]

Love your vids man. Keep it up!

[@40kbrit47]

Ave dominus nox!

[@Jdjwjsi4483]

Ave Dominus Nox

[@ukaszpradzynski5532]

Ave Dominus Nox

[@brandonhughes4571]

For the night haunter

[@azuredystopia3751]

My poor dark husband. Even flaying has lost its sparkle...

[@lockiet7227]

Imagine sending and thinking ONE assassin to kill the Night Haunter. Whose idea was that? It was only successful because he LET the assassin in. Pure luck from completely dumb miscalculation of a foe’s strength

[@tristan_mcdonald]

I think it says in ADB's night lords trilogy that they sent loads of assassins

[@SpectralArrow]

Nah man , emps had foresight too, knew it would only take 1, why send more when you know 1 will do the job.

[@MrFallenone]

Its not like they haven't sent dozens after Horus.

[@JoePippin.]

Talos was such a a amazingly written character I fucking love the nightlords and I feel that the are one the legions that have a chance to be redeem

[@Jdjwjsi4483]

YES! IT IS HERE!

[@Nopityforthemajority]

Glorious

[@smackroscoe]

Batman in 40k? Right here my brothers! Your welcome.

[@Zack-tx7oz]

I wonder where and how ADB will write the Night Lords in the future? The Prophet of the VIII Legion, really curious about him.

[@MrPiccolop]

IDEA: Can Malcharion be considered a Loyalist Night Lord???

[@MrFallenone]

Dominus Nox. He's out there. The head was not that of the Eternal Judge.

[@st1mp0]

About to hi to bed. Checks YT.. Finds a newly video. Result!!

[@Andrew-yl7lm]

I like that the night lords are very similar to drukhari but can tell Slaanesh to sod off

[@yougonahaveanoratime9726]

Now I'm just imagining an assassin runing down a hole way and some Night Lords screm you fucking bitch, and I can't stop laughing.

[@justinrichardson1803]

"Godslayer. That is how they will remember me." She went out like an absolute G. 🔥 them bars was fire

[@xavier84623]

Wooooo night lord week!!!!

[@Kainlarsen]

Wait... I thought M'shen was beaten later by an aspect of the Deceiver. Another retcon. Great. Does nobody else acknowledge this??

[@Duppyman695]

To much retcon to keep up with, I know the Dark Imperium and Plague Wars needed it but damm BL stop changing things !

[@Kainlarsen]

@@Duppyman695 I love BL, but this is really getting tiresome.

[@donperez8774]

From a warp-frost and bloody data slate, a verified recording of the Mad Primarch, Konrad Curze. "Have you ever thought that not only did I want to die that night, but that I wanted a "sole hunter" to copy my style of vengeance, an ironic send off of their Primarch? One ... (sighs sarcastically) "worthy" member of this gaggle of worthlessness they call a legion, to copy those nights where I chased after a murderer down the Nostraman streets and alleys, for (laughs and sobs) justice? (Pretending to walk by his legion's troops, muttering) "This one is too stupid ... he's too preoccupied with torture afterward ... too slow ... a try-hard ... too stylish ... too damned ... Talos the Apothecary? (Points) IT'S A BINGO! Ah, poor boy; got his gene dad's gift. Ha! (whispers, as if to Talos' ears, "Sucks to be you, my sole hunter. Soul Hunter. HA!") Well, have fun with the madness, kid. Oh, you ... audience ... don't judge me so hastily. MY DAD didn't exactly help me with it either."

[@anthonycampos7417]

Sevatar just can't be dead. I'll fuckin riot if he is. I don't think he could have kept the legion together but I certainly want to see his storyline finished, learning what chaos is and completely being disgusted with the idea of becoming a slave to the imperium or a pawn to demons, rejecting both and forging his own path. Maybe even the dark angels putting him in a stasis prison to deal with him later because they had other stuff to deal with.

[@eichler721]

Man if Konrad had 2 things different he would have been a loyalists and the bane of Chaos. If he had done like Sanguinius who remade his legion and spent more time with the Angel the only brother he respected and shared his gift he would have been able to help see the difference in his visions to see the truth. And second if the Emperor had left better and more Administrative people on his homeworld to keep the elite from corruption then he would have a honorable legion that would help keep him on the right path. I still love Konrad though he is a badass and crazy to the core and fit a 40K so well.

[@timothylyons5686]

But did he die?? I don't think he did. And we know Fabius can create new Primachs so Curze could still be out there.

[@Jelle1880]

Ave Dominus Nox!

[@markusnavergard2387]

I think the nighthaunter might return as a deamon prince of chaos undivided. a giant, vampiric bat like deamon

[@YourStylesGeneric321]

May every Night Lord fall under foot of the Unforgiven.

[@halla1548]

Why don't you have a patreon?

[@DominusNox106]

Death is nothing compared to vindication.

[@SirSeal]

what are these gift vouchers?

[@KyussSpeed-sg5je]

Maybe it was an Astartes head, afterall size comparison is hard especially when it's on something that's moving *that* quick.

[@MrFallenone]

Dont forget that Omegon could pass as a regular astarte. Curze is taller but not by that much.

[@KyussSpeed-sg5je]

@@MrFallenone I personally love the idea of the spirit stone in the crown

[@meghanmcferran8480]

In one of the books it was only his crown that she was ment to have not his head which book is it from

[@cn9707]

Curze needed a pep talk from his Hawk bro and a hug from his... chocolate bro and he would have prob been alright.

[@fortheswarmlord3250]

Hawk boy caged him in an stasis chamber and Vulkan was tortured to death by him. Several times.

[@gregajohnson1985]

Is he based on Colonel Kurtz from Apocalypse Now?

[@conan2096]

it was that moment when talos totally got why curze was such a prick to the night lords.

[@akirby2886]

So the night lords recovered his head?

[@TMan7071]

Fantastic video

[@sylntghost007]

My next dog will be a black lab named Talos.

[@j.jbinks9669]

I could've sworn there used to be a 3 hour long Konrad video kicking about where the KZbinr went over how Curze brought his home planet into complete compliance? Been hunting for it for months!!! I ask here, as for some reason, my mind thinks it's you; as when I think of the scene where Curze appoints himself ruler of his homeworld, it is your voice that speaks his words... Any help, people? 😂

[@tripod222]

Arch (Warhammer) Night Haunter video? Not 3 hours, but one, I think.

[@j.jbinks9669]

@@tripod222 I don't think it was Arch, will check though!

[@Roadrun98]

Feels like a middle finger to have a woman kill kurze, how would she even severe a primarchs head?...

[@Watcher-in-the-Dark]

Little sexiest there lol. She is a assassin of the Imperium. One of the absolute most deadly people to exist in that universe. With the skills and weapons to kill Astartes. Now no assassin would be able to kill a Primarch if they fought back. Obviously Konrad didnt. Although cutting through their head once their dead could be done with even a power sword more then likely. They have Thicc necks but could be done.

[@darthlordoftheshit271]

Tbh if they brimg back kurze through the soul stone in corona knox i think he couldnt add a lot to the more and i dont see the point

[@vontheunknown7982]

Their a what if the night haunter turn loyalist in arch it very good

[@piotrjeske4599]

That makes no sense szo sahal was chasing the assassin, and cut of her hand . That is how he got the haunters crown. That is retcon of lore. Makes Lord of Night make no sense.

[@mcinnisboy]

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[@thebestplaguemarine3130]

I don’t like how there re writing the story it was supposed to be zso sahaal chasing the assassin and he’s supposed to be the one Conrad calls his successor

[@KR15nAK]

Better question: does a traitor legion have a single care for the concept of good and evil? Especially one made of dangerous criminals? Keep up the great videos.

[@cn9707]

The criminal part is why Konrad hated his legion. He wasn't getting the best his world had to offer, he got the refuse.

[@tripod222]

That actually seems quite the pertinent question. The Imperium is not morally good. It's not striving to be either. Contrast Guilliman's new Imperium to the Imperium of Gogh Vandire. Same assets, different goals. And the SM were created to fulfill roles, not take the moral high ground. Being in the vicinity of a Space Marine, any Space Marine, is hazardous at best. If you're next to a Space Wolf or Salamander who is ordered (for whatever reason) to shoot you, he will. Oh, individuals might regret the necessity of that action, but that doesn't help your bolt-riddled corpse now, does it?

[@Dexter-cg2kh]

Curse is the greatest example of "what would happen if they landed on a different planet". Curze fall was all himself and no outside force was at blame, unlike Angron. He could have been so different, but not so cool.

[@1kizhun]

Nope! if someone is raised in a den of murders and thieves then whats the likely outcome to be if that all everyone knows! poor curze

[@ImperatorSomnium]

Could it be the head of a clone of the Primarch?

[@81hewp]

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