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[@chrismanning1171]

Enemy is not sending women to the front line. They will be sending men carrying more ammo, more food, more water, and other equipment.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Nope

[@brndesk]

This dialogue was outstanding. Really insightful into a complex issue with no bullshit, just straight talk.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Thank you

[@BigTInTheMorning]

Jake building champions for LIFE!!

[@jakezweig]

BOOOOOOOOM

[@jt.8144]

5th grade comment award here!

[@Anonymous18817]

Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. What advice would you give for women that want to be SEALs?? If you had to go to BUD/S again, how would you prepare differently? What books or workout programs would you recommend? Most female SEAL candidates struggle with carrying the boats and logs, doing pull ups, having grip strength and completing the “Dirty Name” on the obstacle course. Also, a lot of female SEAL candidates break their legs or develop stress fractures.

[@low-budgefudge2164]

​@@Anonymous18817nope, i been sent you a reply. You're a joke.

[@chironow3446]

Why the f-- would you ask about women training? Same as a man, only you better f-- do 10x more for bone strength, tendon strength, and muscle strength. After buds, sqt could be taught to average police officer. It’s the selection you won’t make it through.

[@djbattledmv]

Jake & Jay in the same room!! Maaaan I'd watch these two for 5 hours 🔥💯

[@Anonymous18817]

Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. What advice would you give for women that want to be SEALs?? If you had to go to BUD/S again, how would you prepare differently? What books or workout programs would you recommend? Most female SEAL candidates struggle with carrying the boats and logs, doing pull ups, having grip strength and completing the “Dirty Name” on the obstacle course. Also, a lot of female SEAL candidates break their legs or develop stress fractures.

[@ahtunghabardi7397]

​@@Anonymous18817 If you're worried about BUD/S then you ain't made for this life.

[@chuckiepeoples]

You should see their joint OF!

[@JeepWrangler1957]

One thing is ditching their pony tails. We had a female deputy who wore a long one and a guy grabbed her by it and pummeled her. She couldn’t defend herself because she was always being pulled backwards. Help finally arrived. She was off for several days but when she returned to work she was sporting a much shorter hairstyle

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

I agree pony has to go

[@micclay]

They should have to shave their heads like everyone else.

[@heathwasson7811]

It's quite literally why the Romans invented the military haircut. It's almost impossible to fight effectively when someone has control of your head by a handle.

[@charleslennonbaker]

@@heathwasson7811 I guess you've been to Foxy's in Junction City, KS.

[@jbird4165]

Going to weaken the military because we don’t want to hurt feelings. They should definitely keep the standard the same. No double standard to give women an easy way in

[@crimsonhawk4912]

"It keeps the weak from breading ". I can't remember where that's from but it made me laugh

[@Anonymous18817]

I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. What advice would you give for women that want to be SEALs? If you had to go to BUD/S again, how would you prepare differently? What books or workout programs would you recommend? Most female SEAL candidates struggle with carrying the boats and logs, doing pull ups, having grip strength and completing the “Dirty Name” on the obstacle course. Also, a lot of female SEAL candidates break their legs or develop stress fractures.

[@jmc0369]

​@@Anonymous18817recognize, that most real men cannot say they dont dont like their women wearing pornstar eyelashes or chasing the latest rediculous fashion fads. Just like most infantry guys or operators will not say "THEY DONT WANT WOMEN THERE." I have interviewed USMC Infantry guys about their observations. They are conflicted between wanting to see women succeed and being their cheerleader, and wanting to be in the REAL corps.... Chesty Pullers Corps.... The Old Corps, the boys club etc. Men still need to be men. There should be Mens spaces juat like there should be Womens spaces. The people in high station love that all kinds of behavior are destroying the family and diminishing child birth. We collectively need to realize the inherent power of women in nurturing and child birth. Turning women into warriors is a step backward. Women should be a warrior like a momma bear, not as a default full time setting. Programming them to be so, is a step toward collapse.

[@user-cc5od3zk4p]

There’s no honour in obtaining your position by default.

[@Maintenance63]

First legitimate conversation regarding women in the SF community I've listened to.

[@johnwestervelt7454]

They simply cannot keep up and will endanger the group

[@christopherhazell420]

​@ChristBearerFlameHeart🎯🎯

[@GKRuff]

Bruh!!! It is so Dope to watch You two Together!!! Two Brothers 🧔🏾‍♂️ 🧔🏾‍♂️ who have been through the trenches!!! Absolutely Incredible!!! 👍🏿💯🇺🇸

[@Anonymous18817]

Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. What advice would you give for women that want to be SEALs?? If you had to go to BUD/S again, how would you prepare differently? What books or workout programs would you recommend? Most female SEAL candidates struggle with carrying the boats and logs, doing pull ups, having grip strength and completing the “Dirty Name” on the obstacle course. Also, a lot of female SEAL candidates break their legs or develop stress fractures.

[@lamartruth6601]

Call Jake up on his show. He'll get you on a program

[@heartandmindovercome3214]

​​@@Anonymous18817he just gave it at the beginning, be a well rounded world class/d1 level athlete. Hit up Jake zwieg's channel. He has a pdf (training program) that he sends out to people if you email him. His email is usually in his vídeo descriptions. If you can get the numbers (pt score) he's talking about, you may have a chance. I'm not gonna tell anyone they can't do it. You may be able to book a call with him. He's gonna get real though, so you gotta want it. Get the run game down. You wanna be able to get up to being able to run 40 to 50 miles a week and be physically ok. Start slow though. Join a wrestling team if possible. BUDS isn't what it used to be. You used to be able to just be tough and not quit (for the most part if you were solid). It's not like that anymore. Talk to Jake

[@heartandmindovercome3214]

​@@lamartruth6601👍🔥

[@TingTingalingy]

You are a liability, not a benefit. Do not risk the lives of our boys because you think you can. Your willingness to even attempt it says more about how narcissistic you are than how worthy you are, because you're not. ​@@Anonymous18817

[@darkgardener9577]

They have to lower their standards, significantly to get any of them in there. That's the problem.

[@orlock20]

Not in SOAR or SWCC.

[@LilSebastian_]

You couldn’t meet the female standard…

[@darkgardener9577]

@@LilSebastian_ Why not? I crushed the male standard for 21 years ... I bet at 41, this retired ol' grunt with bad knees/hips could still out PT 99% of active duty females flat out. 1SG still PT's every day.....keeps me hard.

[@LilSebastian_]

@@darkgardener9577 You are delusional.

[@user-wv6kd6gu1i]

Lowering navy seal standards is not good, because that training but in the real world where it's ruthless and have no souls, there are no freakin standards to apply, Women have to sucked it up if they want to come out in one piece from war

[@sandrasherman9294]

I'm an Army Veteran, 5,7, wide shoulder female but I know I'm not cut out to be an operator. Also, many men are not cut out either. But our American society is not yet ready for this. It's a physical strength thing, a few females may be able to do it but when they get shot or killed it will probably put the male combatants in a vulnerable position with regards to mission effectiveness. I would not have wanted to go through basic with men, too much distraction. Also, the combat loads that operators/special forces are required to carry are very heavy and are difficult for a male body to carry. I don't see it as a lack of mental strength but a fact of different physical capabilities.

[@teambeforeself6839]

That’s why there’s a selection.

[@hansangb]

This is an Infantryman's perspective and it's simple. 200lb man carrying a 100lb ruck means the ruck is 50% his body weight. A 100lb female carrying a 100lb ruck means it's 100% of her weight. Who's doing more work? Who's expending more energy?

[@WarKing77]

But are they both performing to the same standard?

[@MVK_GS]

@@WarKing77 This is the thing: When an SFODA infiltrates into an OA, the way that SFODA 555 and 595 did in Afghanistan in 2001, each team member carried a rucksack of - at least - 120 lb. Why? Because what you have on your back is everything you will have with you until the next time you get logistical support. Plus, there is a PACE plan wrapped around all the commo and medical gear, which translates into a lot of weight. If one person in an SFODA cannot carry their part and move forward an excess of 12 miles at a good pace, that means someone else has to carry it. It is not that women cannot be in special operations. Of course they can. It is just that politicians are trying to force females into these teams just to say they can. In reality, females belong in special operations, but we need to put them in functions where they are exploiting their best capabilities, not trying to be biological men. Do not put a female in a position where she has to carry a wounded 200 lb. man (including gear) to cover, in combat, or a 120 lb. rucksack for 12 miles while keeping up with 180 lb. biological males who are also athletes. That's not fair to the female and it's not fair to the rest of the team. But there are functions in SOF - to include some trigger puller positions - where those females who qualify will thrive. Anyway, that's my opinion.

[@wildcat8598]

Are they both having the same qualifications? Can she carry that 200lb guy if he’s wounded?

[@orlock20]

SOAR requires no heavy lifting by the operator. The same goes for SWCC. Both are part of Special Operations.

[@hansangb]

@@orlock20 operator?

[@rich3154]

Yup support roles are different, and i agree this would be more suitable for them

[@michaeldyer7421]

The Israelis can integrate women well because they’re not trying to prove a point, they’re trying to solve a problem so they can be objective. This is about an ideology in the US, it always has been.

[@Chino56751]

Not for us. Only the leftists

[@teller1290]

​@@Chino56751well said.

[@teller1290]

Actually, in Israel they have a basic manpower problem. They are surrounded on three sides outnumbered 40:1 with an ocean on the fourth side. The whole Israeli thing is a red herring diversion from OUR needs, demographics and reality. Additionally, Israel is plagued by the same liberals determined to weaken western nations anyway they can in the face of communism or violent Islam. Israel skirts around the issue by letting women give interviews and tours on duty claiming to be infantry battalion commanders or armor officers. These women are basically glorified (but for Israel, necessary), heavily armed border and perimeter guards...out in places where nothing serious is likely to happen; and, if it does, they call for the all-male cavalry...literally. They have fooled you and that's the idea. They call them infantry or armor and maybe activists leave them alone SO THEY CAN KILL THE ENEMY AND SURVIVE

[@javelinblue5414]

What you don't know is they give the women units, easier tasks.

[@christopherhazell420]

IDF does not have women in infantry, armor or artillery on the frontlines. In training, yes. Support yes. Frontline platoons & crews, no.

[@bmoregorillas828]

Bro I knew you was a real one when I heard your sere training video.glad to see others in special forces show brother Jake some love.

[@Trapspringer888]

On this topic though, it is worth mentioning CPO Shannon Kent. She was one those super athlete types you mentioned are needed, passed SMU selection, and pretty much worked with Naval Special Warfare types in JSOC, bringing specialist field SIGINT, HUMINT and linguistics to the fight. It is telling too that she was KIA alongside others who were also very much in the SOF or ex-SOF turned intel space in Manbij, Syria, at a time when everywhere was dangerous in the fight against ISIS. RIP. Coffee or Die did an excellent write up of her and how her husband, an ODA guy, now survives her in the unusual situation of being a Gold Star widower (wanted to post the link but KZbin does not like links in comments).

[@ShortArmOfGod]

Still shouldn't have been there.

[@oliversacks3837]

@@ShortArmOfGod She was in a tier 1 unit that has always successfully utilized women. And she passed selection even to the point of outdoing numerous male candidates.

[@mogwaiman6048]

​​@@oliversacks3837 she was in a support role as a cryptologist. She wasn't someone who went through tier 1 training to be an operator.

[@everlynprado7136]

@@oliversacks3837She was NOT a tier 1 operator but support.

[@TheWorldsprayer]

i was there listening to the radio when that bomb went off listening to the helo pilot trying to find where it was. The guy reporting and calling for help was straight up deafened and he couldn't hear the pilot talking back on the radio.

[@MrBuffalosoldier34]

Man, nice to see you guys link up.

[@Anonymous18817]

Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. What advice would you give for women that want to be SEALs?? If you had to go to BUD/S again, how would you prepare differently? What books or workout programs would you recommend? Most female SEAL candidates struggle with carrying the boats and logs, doing pull ups, having grip strength and completing the “Dirty Name” on the obstacle course. Also, a lot of female SEAL candidates break their legs or develop stress fractures.

[@MrBuffalosoldier34]

I would get with Jake he might have a training program for you.

[@teller1290]

@@MrBuffalosoldier34 this "person" is on here pasting thus schiit all over this forum. I don't believe a word of it. F'g troll.

[@rdf4315]

Dude I love that Viking quote, why do you think the Vikings was kicking so much ass, because they were world class athletes that have been rowing a boat for 3,000 miles and was pissed off, I've never thought about it like that, but that is so true, because if you got anybody today that had to row a boat for more than 30 minutes they're going to be in a very bad mood let alone 3,000 Miles I would be ready to colonize Europe to.

[@col.strayga1389]

Rowing a boat 3000 miles with your wife, I would be pissed-off too!

[@crimsonhawk4912]

My ass would be numb sitting that long

[@rayquitana1453]

No women in period...Only in Intel. Thank you gentlemen😊

[@Anonymous18817]

Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. What advice would you give for women that want to be SEALs?? If you had to go to BUD/S again, how would you prepare differently? What books or workout programs would you recommend? Most female SEAL candidates struggle with carrying the boats and logs, doing pull ups, having grip strength and completing the “Dirty Name” on the obstacle course. Also, a lot of female SEAL candidates break their legs or develop stress fractures.

[@khahariball4946]

​you got Instagram I'll can help

[@orlock20]

There are at least two women in SOAR.

[@wildcat8598]

I feel like it takes a beast if a woman to be either a soldier or police officer in the field. Like this Man says it’s gonna take a world class athlete. Cause if you don’t they will be more of a hinder than addition to a team when the game being played is going up against other grown capable Men.

[@orlock20]

SOAR is a bunch of helicopter pilots and SOAR is in special operations. SWCC are on boats and women can pilot boats and operate the machine guns.

[@RobinatorsPlace]

You must be the best and carry respect. If something about you does not work, you don't make it. Period. "Chances" don't cut it. Die is die. If the team does not naturally respect you, then that is not your place.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Thanks for sharing

[@grafenr.3405]

Another outstanding interview Jake always speaks the truth.

[@jt.8144]

AS HOW THE WORLD SHOULD BE. instead of being "influenced" or better yet BRAINWASHED. by what you consume from the internet 24/7 .

[@Anonymous18817]

Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. What advice would you give for women that want to be SEALs?? If you had to go to BUD/S again, how would you prepare differently? What books or workout programs would you recommend? Most female SEAL candidates struggle with carrying the boats and logs, doing pull ups, having grip strength and completing the “Dirty Name” on the obstacle course. Also, a lot of female SEAL candidates break their legs or develop stress fractures.

[@thegodcam]

Always

[@toingr]

Great dialogue. Can’t comment on the Special Operations side of it but my two things are: 1. The point made about what happens when you put two females on a firebase with a platoon worth of dudes. 2. Long-term viability (enlisted) - physiologically women just don’t hold up to the workload as long as men. I don’t know of a female infantryman that has made it from private to staff sergeant yet because of the continuous physicality of the job. Let alone Special Operations.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Thanks for sharing

[@nelsonfountain4297]

The females that went to Ranger school DID NOT meet the standards. They were re-tested over and over until they passed and if they couldn't they altered the requirements. This is not second-hand knowledge I spoke to several RI's and they all said the same thing.

[@kimhesketh2016]

Don't make stuff up.

[@nelsonfountain4297]

truth hurts@@kimhesketh2016

[@christopherwhippy3181]

I'm surprised that African Americans copped some shit in SEAL teams and American spec ops when Fijians have been in the British SAS for decades and still are where they are respected and treated equally.

[@joeyvonny5146]

“The Israelis tried it. Women in combat. Seems men couldn't get used to the sight of women blown open. They'd linger over the wounded females, often trying to save those who obviously couldn't be saved. Often to the detriment of the mission.” - Viggo Mortensen

[@kimhesketh2016]

You are quoting an actor. Other first world nations have had women in combat for decades and they perform just fine.

[@everlynprado7136]

@@kimhesketh2016Besides Israel who ?? The USA just started b/c DEI and have lower the standards. I am a VET and I was 11M in the Army and not one female was in my unit! 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️

[@DCB1209]

There is no nation that has women on the front lines. They do not perform “just fine.” Stop making crap up. There are nations that have women in infantry, and they are not treated like the men nor are they expected to be the first to a fight.

[@Jwasin3_1]

Where are females at doing house to house in Gaza

[@negativezero8174]

I’m tired of actors and their opinions. Their whole job is pretending to be someone else

[@zerofox2030]

The first female ranger grads got special treatment, they lowered the standards for them to pass.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Really

[@zerofox2030]

@@GreenBeretChronicles Yep. They were allowed to go to a pre-ranger training course for a few months that was only for them. They also got to see the land nav courses during the train up, something no one else got. This was all before school too, during school they were allowed to recycle more than anyone else, got more time to rest, and didn't get kicked for mistakes that should have gotten them booted, like losing a soldier during one of the movements.

[@sandrasherman9294]

I believe females can succeed in some Spec ops missions but I don't think mixed units/squads should be pushed through to create social experiments.

[@wearelegion6520]

I think Norway has the right idea. They created a womens only special forces group with training specific to them. It is still incredibly hard, but geared towards the women. They specialize in surveillance and recon in urban areas. If another special forces group needs a woman, they pull from that group. It allows the women to serve, get training, and be valuable to the SOF community.

[@mrjbone2849]

Totally agree

[@robbas_krk1510]

Poland has something similar to this.

[@oscarthegrouch8992]

So special as in Short Bus..

[@teller1290]

Ughhh...

[@arthurbrumagem3844]

Makes more sense

[@user-ny9ub3ut4m]

BEEN WAITING FOR THIS COLLAB!!! CANT WASH OFF GRIT

[@wilb6657]

Two LEGENDS on a video together! It's so great seeing these two brothas on here! Jay, I hope this means you have gotten over his phobia of SEALS, though.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Hahahaha changing the world through collaborations. One team on fight the youth.

[@royc5458]

In 2020, Chinese soldiers encroaced the Indian border and attacked Indian soldiers when they were sleeping, with clubs that had nails, barbed wire, stones and clubs. It was hand-to-hand combat in the cold dark and many soldiers died, with quite a few falling into a freezing river. Instead of Indian male soldiers, if there were female soldiers, would they have been able to defend themselves and territory with their bare hands ? This is why even the Israelis and Ukranians do not send woment right to the front, even though both are at war. The list of Israeli KIAs after ground operations started, will show that they do not support the idea of sending women to a firefight. All this is just woke idiocy.

[@jakezweig]

Russian Norway and Finnish all had female snipers KILLING

[@orlock20]

The men must not have set up night watch and allowed themselves to get caught off guard. Virginia Hall wrecked havoc in Nazi occupied France and she did it with one leg. Not only did she rescue her fellow spies, she got a brothel to infect hundreds of German officers with STDs. When she had to escape, she hiked 50 miles again with one leg. After that she went back in even with a bounty on he head.

[@robbas_krk1510]

@@jakezweigRead his comment once again, bro.

[@heathwasson7811]

I'm 6'3" 230lbs. maintained about 210lbs when on active duty, and spent the last 6 years of my career in Army Special Operations. My much larger body and frame are wrecked from years of humping rucks and static line jumps. Can't imagine the long term effects on a female frame. Unrelated rant... Retirement benefits should really be on some sort of adjusted scale based on TYPE of service, not just time. A guy doing 20 years as an admin specialist or one of the various technical fields, is having a completely different career from a guy at one of the Batts, at Group, or even putting in 20 as a straight leg 11B.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Yep

[@orlock20]

But can you fly a little bird and land it in a back alley at night? SOAR is part of special operations and there are women in SOAR and SWCC.

[@heathwasson7811]

@@orlock20 Actually, yes. I have a fixed wing multi-engine commercial rating and rotary wing rating, along with a BS in Aeronautical Engineering and Masters in Systems Engineering. But, that's beside the point. All through my career (and before), we've had females scattered throughout SOCOM. They were in positions where it made sense, and there was no need to lower overall standards for them to qualify "on the same standard". An athletic female doesn't need any special treatment to make it through WAFT, qualify for the 160th, and be functionally on par with their male counterparts. It's a fairy-tale that females are able to perform on an ODA, TPT, SEAL team, PJ Team, or in a 75th platoon, etc... at the same level as their male counterparts. I don't care how much the PC movement wants it to be true, how many serving NCOs and Officers want to go along with the narrative... it's a lie. We ALL know it's a lie. Deep down you know it's a lie. But most people are more than happy to lie to the world, and even themselves, if it allows them to portray themselves as virtuous and some type of elevated thinker.

[@serekithegreat]

If the NAVY SEAL’s go DEI on us we are done. If they can’t make it, they can’t make it. Simple as that. Stop trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole. 🇺🇸

[@Dirk-my2zf]

A chick will never make it through BUD/S that life ain’t for them.

[@olliski2802]

Why do we need sniper females when we have sniper males.

[@christopheryoung194]

Y’all crazy as hell. Protect these women by not putting them in these positions.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Agree

[@Gruntm203]

It’s an issue with one female in a 40 man platoon. The study is out; Op-tempo is slower with females integrated in the GCE; Pitt did the study…….

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Yep

[@rich3154]

No to mention sexual tension between the alpha men competing for that female, it creates turmoil between the men, not to mention alphas seeing a female with a sucking chest wound or gun shots to femoral artery wounds like that can possibly break a dude witnessing this, it is different that seeing a dude with these type wounds that 18D may not be able to handle that, not to say he is weeker that an 18D in a all man ODA it's just different situation.

[@christopherhazell420]

​@@rich3154🎯🎯🎯

[@evillabrador1]

14 INT had Women in Northern Ireland. Had same standards as Men. One women 14 INT operator accidentally shot dead two robbers while park outside the bank.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Time and place.

[@TheyAreHereForYou]

Men and women are different regardless of what the gender squad wants to believe. I am a 40-year-old man that can bench 3 plates and run a 5 min mile. I am an old dude with a damaged and worn-out body from heavy use. Show me a woman who can compete physically with even older dudes like me. You have a whole generation of 20-30 year old men to choose from. If we are down to needing women then we are in a bad situation.

[@DCB1209]

This is one of the few realistic comments I’ve found. People are so out of touch with reality. I have no problem teaching my daughter how to defend herself but I would never lie to her and make her think she is equal to a man physically.

[@christopherhazell420]

​@@DCB1209🎯🎯🎯 here! Here!

[@angel61502able]

These guys are trying to be politically correct. Respect points taken away.

[@jaye1967]

The question of weather women should be in Special forces has resoundingly been answered by present day women's sports. The fact is trans men obliterate the women they compete against every time.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Hahaha

[@nqwertyredman5625]

Great vid. That said, it’s actually a myth and misconception that Viking females fought alongside the men, this generally did not happen. People love to take rare one offs and claim it’s the norm when it comes to females and history. The shield maiden, Amazon warrior, and mermaid all have more in common than for example the rare ona bugeisha.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Thank you

[@aidancarlisle5078]

Great take. We can’t be doing stuff just to parade a woman around to show how progressive we are. It’s not fair to the women or the teams. I wonder how many women in the service actually want this? Idek if they would want to be in that place. They seem to have carved out a niche for themselves in other roles. They did great work attached to teams. And in the Intel agencies they do a great job.

[@chrischris4181]

any woman who can pass the selection process that has always been, deserves to be there. if you lower the standards, any amount, then you have just murdered your entire spec ops division.

[@jerrylegranvil1794]

Two of my favorite SFers 🤙💪🇺🇸

[@monkmode_11]

No doubt

[@jerrylegranvil1794]

@@monkmode_11 plus is a naturalized American from a Haiti like I am so there’s a tad bit of bias here. Honestly and respectfully 😂😉

[@grainplaner216]

the brass tax of the situation is if they can't carry their part ie , their own ruck then they bring the operational capability of the unit down several notches.

[@alphaeligon9226]

It's amazing to see two men From The Trenches having articulated discussion how about current issues of war with women and it's just as your cool who said I don't care about gender race Creed once you are capable as a military operative then you're the shit

[@teller1290]

It's never helpful to say that women are good if they make it because fanatical political forces in lib govt are going to MAKE IT so that she gets a passing grade in diagnostic...ranger or whatever. And then you're stuck with her...all 5'4", 122 lbs, 15%+ body fat...that was size of two West Point women that "made it" thru RNG school years ago, followed btw by a 37-yr old reservist AUNT. All it takes are willing women who are either ideological on crashing the "old boys club" and political generals (or admirals) who have their marching orders, if they want to see their next star. And no one speaks out The other problem is, once women are selected for these courses, they are not going to let them all keep failing out. This will happen...because feminists n this struggle long ago and commando units are targets they can't pass up...and they have all the time and political power in the world to get what they want. Laugh? Okay. Just remember in fall '97, GI Jane was all but a cartoon. Today, it's pretty much reality...not legitimately but it's being forced and they are finding weak, willing accomplices IN UNIFORM to make it happen. This is just beginning. And in the non-commando units (the big units- where major wars are won and lost -assuming, that is, your political masters haven't already agreed not to win) like infantry and armor and artillery, with men all over the place. They can't even agree on a flippin' PT test in those branches because of the gender chaos. Insanity. The "one standard" promise is a myth. Remember (and they did this in fed law enforcement in the late '70s), once the expensive process has been undertaken to get them in training, powers-that-be aren't going to want to see them all punched out. At FBI Academy way back then, under army old five-event test, every swinging gal failed out. Politicians were furious and more work men were sent and they all failed. In a matter of weeks after that, TWO standards were adopted ..ONE MALE, ONE FEMALE...and those in the pipeline were greeted at Quantico with their own separate girly test. You see, the door had been kicked open and it was never going to be shut again, no matter how many lies and con jobs and cowards in Washington it took. The speaker keeps making reference to world class athlete. Again, that might fly on some anti-septic diagnostic but not real life.

[@Jwasin3_1]

You have pass and make it through all the requirements of selection or Buds . Not changing the standards

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Yep

[@warrenaustin4055]

I’m the same, non biased. The question is, why haven’t we sent them in? Either an all female or hybrid team, give them a mission. Think we are dancing around the subject for way too long.

[@limbanimkorongo319]

That survey says a lot about the mentality in the seals, that’s insane to say.

[@marylandflyer5670]

Great conversation!

[@tevinnspeller8238]

Hell yeah man been waiting for y’all to link….being a current Army Recruiter applicants who want an 18X or option 40 contract I always refer them to both of y’all’s content ✊🏽

[@CoffeeFiend1]

Female personnel with specific skill sets and qualifications should be placed into SF Support Groups alongside applicable males. They can serve on teams as attachments when relevant. "But when would they ever be relevant hurrr durrrr". Yes well, granted a lot of the time there likely wouldn't be a reason to choose them over a guy however.... If they do happen to have a specialism that they're really good at, more so than a male, e.g. specific obscure dialect or branch of medicine or engineering they could be attached. Then there's also the golden niche that very much favors females in a lot of contexts, namely Special Reconnaissance. Women can do things and go places that guys can't. It's a simple fact and sometimes having a female would be beneficial. Also if we're really being honest adults.... We know they get used on the quiet in special recce anyway. Yeah it's not officially, it's alluded to a lot but let's be fucking honest anecdotes gain a bit of validity when volume comes into play, we know they get used. So lets use them officially, as and when, they're useful. Exercised with pragmatism it's a win-win.

[@Trapspringer888]

CPO Shannon Kent was one of those individuals. She was a SIGINT/HUMINT/linguist ninja who passed a SMU selection with other male SOF types and she was attached to NAVSPECWAR types in JSOC in Syria. Got KIA'ed by an IED alongside dudes who were all SOF, ex-SOF turned intel and her interpreter. Google her name and 'Coffee or Die'. Those dudes did a good write up on her and her legacy in the intel world.

[@CoffeeFiend1]

@@Trapspringer888 I've heard of the name and have watched bits and pieces of 'Coffee or Die' before. The Americans have so many, literally so many special groups, they tend to get butthurt when we say SF because of Green Berets and Special Operations distinctions and hurr durr but the rest of the world uses SF as an umbrella. The point being though the US has so many specials there's like half a dozen in each of the branches, there's some in reserves, the intelligence agencies have them, there's some that transcend and attach on and off, there's literally so much utility and opportunity for a female with a specific skillset or qualification to shine, the US should be the easiest place for it in principle.

[@Jwasin3_1]

They are working with RRC but not Recce . RRC selection is almost a year and rucking with 80lbs -100lbs over miles

[@drinkswatere]

You also got to consider the standards are not the peak for men but for women it is. They will have to stay peak 100% of the time.

[@christopherhazell420]

🎯🎯🎯

[@joelpierce3940]

Women have their place, but not in Tier One Units. Are they going to carry a wounded man? Stop being Woke.

[@Anonymous18817]

Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. What advice would you give for women that want to be SEALs?? If you had to go to BUD/S again, how would you prepare differently? What books or workout programs would you recommend? Most female SEAL candidates struggle with carrying the boats and logs, doing pull ups, having grip strength and completing the “Dirty Name” on the obstacle course. Also, a lot of female SEAL candidates break their legs or develop stress fractures.

[@orlock20]

There are at least two women in SOAR and Virginia Hall did everything in the mission set of the Army's Special Forces and did it with one leg.

[@robbas_krk1510]

@@orlock20He’s talking about the first line Tier 1 combat units, bro.

[@cmdrx5099]

If a female can stand the rigors of becoming a Spec Ops, then good on them but do not, DO NOT lower the standards just so that feelings don’t need to be hurt. Hell no! Give them the same standards as anyone that wants to go through it. If one makes it, then good but I haven’t seen one that really made it. No, that Ranger female don’t count. She was rolled too many times and men were not even given the chances she was given.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

I agree

[@josharnold.]

I love how jake where's his made in Steilacoom shirt he got a rip his hometown😂

[@manujosiah8088]

Grew up in Steilacoom. Nice community back in the day. Loved walking down to the ferry dock and along the train tracks.

[@FROSTYFEET874]

Jake with a green beret oh this gotta be good

[@aw8one]

Whenever they talk about infiltrating female into these units I always think just make an all female unit.

[@orlock20]

There was the one woman team named Virginia Hall. There was an all female AC-130 team that did at least one mission in Afghanistan. There are at least two women in SOAR.

[@aw8one]

@@orlock20 yeah, that makes sense. It's hard to have just one or two women in command. My command was all males other commands similar to ours had women and we always beat those commands performance-wise. Not because they had women but because we had fewer distractions.

[@JR-ju3kj]

I keep saying that, too! Just make an all female Special Ops or Special Forces military unit!

[@jt.8144]

"Can a REAL Female pull a 250 LB 6'4 Operator out of a burning car". No we're not talking about no TRANS Gender 'female' either. Let's get real here.

[@orlock20]

Not every special operations force is an infantryman. SOAR and SWCC operators operate equipment that move those 250 lb guys around.

[@grt8guy03]

the first female ranger did NOT meet the standards set at the mens level

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Maybe

[@jeffreylysen7647]

Probably should put a woman in the NFL before we start messing with national security on the front lines.

[@Anonymous18817]

Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. What advice would you give for women that want to be SEALs?? If you had to go to BUD/S again, how would you prepare differently? What books or workout programs would you recommend? Most female SEAL candidates struggle with carrying the boats and logs, doing pull ups, having grip strength and completing the “Dirty Name” on the obstacle course. Also, a lot of female SEAL candidates break their legs or develop stress fractures.

[@LiztheWiz218]

@@Anonymous18817Drink a lot of milk, calcium. Lift a LOT. You need to make sure your bones are as strong as possible. I’m a woman who wants to go MARSOC and these are the steps I’m taking. :). So yeah, strengthen your bones and exercise a lot. Eat good and eat a lot. Take the haters as motivation, you’ll be brought down by just about everyone, don’t mind it. You can’t be emotionally or mentally weak/sensitive.

[@harrywebsters2318]

Israel doesn't have mixed gender fighting units, they have some all female units. Also, it shouldn't be judged on how capable they are - it should be on how having females present would effect the coherence of a group of men.

[@eddiehoskins7482]

We had this going on in 1977... Same problem no answers

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Yep

[@jesdominguez6440]

Yes why isn’t there female only special forces. There are some very strong and bad ass females out there.

[@markperkins9445]

The "standards" have been tanked.

[@ytbenavraham9553]

In my twenty years in law enforcement and twenty years in executive protection. The physical standards and qualifications must be changed to accommodate women. In all my years even firearms training standards have to be changed. They want women only range qualifications. Captains and command wanted private pass through. Physical wise push ups, sit ups running they need special accommodations. Look at the female swat competition in UAE. Elite teams of women could not do it. We need to come to reality.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Standards are changing

[@dans9127]

Remember when we created soldiers and a military to break shit and win wars. The right person for the right job not a warm and fuzzy for political points.

[@cringlemcshingle]

The first 10 seconds had me dying laughing

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Oh yea

[@Lou-Phil]

Hell yea! Perfect collaboration! Respect!!

[@ryanthompson3446]

I would never serve in a unit with a woman, idgaf, those who know know.

[@rayquitana1453]

I support this message.

[@user-ec8ns2lb1k]

Same here

[@orlock20]

Virginia Hall did well for herself. She is basically the mother of the U.S. Army's Special Forces and she did it with one leg. She even had to rescue her male comrades.

[@ryanthompson3446]

@@orlock20 she did pt training and the job are not the same thing, what happens when her team needs her to be able to go hands on and kill a man hand to hand on room entry and she cannot do the job because she is a woman??? The coping about gender falls apart when reality hits. What happens when her team puts everyone at risk to save her because their biology to protect a woman overrides their judgment?

[@orlock20]

@@ryanthompson3446 When Virginia Hall entered France, the first thing she did was contaminate the German sanctioned brothels with STDs which took hundreds of German officers out of action. That's part of the sabotage part of Special Forces. The next thing she did was organize a French Resistance cell. That's the force multiplication part. This French resistance team was responsible for picking bombing targets and battlefield assessment. While she was help doing that, she rescued some POWs which is what pararescue is trained to do. Believing her cell was compromised, she walked 50 miles out of the country. She was able to get around because she was an expert in disguise even though the Germans knew she had one leg and was a woman. She was then able to go back into France, get a new cell going and prepare the French resistance for D-Day. Breaking into buildings to gather intel is more of a SEAL thing.

[@LordDirus007]

What do you think think about that Female Captain who passed Q Course back in 1981? Thats one case where I really think she wasn't given any Special Treatment. I think they wanted her to fail because she gamed the system to get in. Apparently they never had it in writing that a Female couldn't go to Q Course. Apparently she earned her Long Tab. But something about the story sort of rubbed me the wrong way. Apparently she had been in 5th Group for like 4 Years, had partied with a bunch of fhe guys. So like she knew these guys. What kind of dirt did she have on them? Apparently they failed her right before graduation and then she dropped a Sexual Harassment Complaint and the Army passed her.

[@joeclaridy]

I don't get why the Obama Administration pushed so hard for integration when their own test study came out as an abysmal failure. Our military needs to be compentent and lethal not progressive.

[@kimhesketh2016]

There is no such study.

[@joeclaridy]

@@kimhesketh2016 yes they did. Below is a link where GEN. Milley and Gen. Miller were before the Senate Armed Services committee discussing the outcome of the study and whether the Marine Corps should ask for an exemption in allowing the Marine Infantry to remain all male. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmanh5Sencl_mNUsi=6Q_Jg92zWErtuz2A

[@Danny_chew]

Let’s have them compete in ufc against men first as a trial run.

[@WAR_1933]

This was a good video thanks for covering this.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Glad it was helpful!

[@mobilegamersunite]

Mulan in this mafk! 😂

[@acsolares2]

Zwig is a smart dang guy! very good insights

[@thh4584]

Lmfao, the guy was a shit bag seal.

[@thh4584]

Lmfao, the guy was a shit bag seal.

[@thh4584]

Lmfao, the guy was a shit bag seal.

[@thh4584]

Lmfao, the guy was a shit bag seal.

[@jakezweig]

​@@thh4584thanks man I killed the teams !!!!! Ranked #2 at the team for 2 years..... wait for the full video. Thanks for the support Hater Nation

[@cbjork29]

are we talking about a female standard for the teams or the actual standard for the teams.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Both.

[@neelonghunglow]

BOOM! Got to love hearing the gospel from Jake!

[@johnneill5960]

I’m 52 was not a special operator but I spent 9 years in combat A:O’s and was wounded . My body is done and I mean absolutely done . I’m 100 percent DV ( actually 200 if you add it all up) . I can’t move without cortisone steroids in my knees, shoulders and had to have an ablation in my back . My head is beat as well after 13 concussions . All of this and I was NOT an operator . Is there maybe a few exceptions? Sure , but 99.9999 wouldn’t have a chance physically or MENTALLY! Hell 98.9 percent of men couldn’t handle it . Thee are positions that men excel at and positions that women excel at Operators is a man’s world and only very few at that .

[@jasestrong]

Great video ! Women are Americans greatest resource , we should treat them accordingly. I feel women can serve in certain roles but Spec ops / No way . Lie said above if they have the Knowledge, skills, abilities, and experience, then they are good to go!

[@thebuddhaofknowledgemichae2486]

Ask a policeman how do policewoman do in the field. See the difference. Use your mind guys. If a peg is round don’t force into square hole.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

There’s other use

[@yavin99]

Didn't they recently force a female officer through Air Force spec ops training even though she quit many times through but the AF insisted she pass and wouldn't let her quit but the messed up thing is the people that she's in charge of would know she shouldnt be there so that has to be a messed up situation.

[@christopherhazell420]

Correct, a Special Tactics Officer (CCT)

[@ragnardanneskajold1880]

Man, sorry to disagree, but the Viking women, were NOT fighting side by side with men and they didn’t not go “A Viking” (which means something similar to raiding in modern language); the notion women fought alongside men in the Viking shield walls and in combat comes from a 11th century literary invention by an English writer after the Viking age. There is ZERO evidence Norse, Dane, and Swede Vikings fought shoulder to shoulder with women, no matter how many times movies show it. Stop

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Good point

[@teanistillmon3341]

Jake just being REAL!!! And I love it❤

[@mckenziedj]

I personally would love to see the transition of a female seal from a regular sailor to an active Navy Seal. Document to see the physical and mental troll it would take on her body and mind. Reason being the first female to past Ranger school was infertile after attending the school among other changes to her body and mind.

[@alexander1902]

And she didn't even complete it to the same standards as the men. The Army just wanted a female west pointer to strut around and deflect from all the other issues at the time.

[@dans9127]

By all terms of successful completion of Ranger school she failed completely, but was pushed to pass for optics of equity. Equity is not equality its forced equivalents.

[@kevinthegrizzly5074]

@@dans9127 💯👊🏾🪖🇺🇸✝️

[@kevinthegrizzly5074]

@@alexander1902 💯 facts.👊🏾🪖🇺🇸✝️

[@Anonymous18817]

Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. What advice would you give for women that want to be SEALs?? If you had to go to BUD/S again, how would you prepare differently? What books or workout programs would you recommend? Most female SEAL candidates struggle with carrying the boats and logs, doing pull ups, having grip strength and completing the “Dirty Name” on the obstacle course. Also, a lot of female SEAL candidates break their legs or develop stress fractures.

[@corysimshauser8034]

I think the best comparison would be if you had an ODA or SEAL team made up entirely of females and you dropped them in Ramadi 2006, would they be as capable and effective as an all male counterpart? would any commander have the same faith in them?

[@orlock20]

Virginia Hall did everything the U.S. Special Forces is suppose to do and she did it with one leg.

[@NightTime482]

@@orlock20 she was a spy, not a solider. Large difference

[@orlock20]

@@NightTime482 Special Forces in countries surrounding Vietnam during the Vietnam Civil War were considered spies and not soldiers. That way the U.S. could say there were no troops in Cambodia while having troops in Cambodia.

[@grainplaner216]

they finally lowered the standard so that she would pass and become a ranger.

[@alphaeligon9226]

Congrats to J&J on😮😮😮😮😮 a awesome program

[@TingTingalingy]

Vikings absolutely did not have women in combat. It's a misconception stemming from fiction. There's never been anything IRL like a shield maiden

[@justynh5447]

If they prove themselves by the same standards men have to i dont see why not but in no way shape or form should standards be lowered to accommodate anyone regardless of gender

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Proving themselves isn’t the problem

[@bangkokinc.4233]

PASTA TIME! Gotta get my pasta daily baby!

[@rafev6682]

Weak men create hard times...and here we are.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Yep

[@boblawblaw892]

Women in the S.O.F. , is it necessary? I understand Israel's reasons , They need it because it's necessary. Us doing it is a social experiment and in my opinion not necessary.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Time and place maybe

[@user-oe9ol9ww1x]

100% right

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Yep

[@KillMonger592]

I say it all the time if a female is to make it thru sof selection process she'd deadass have to put out alot more than her male compadres jus to keep up let alone exceed them physically... Question is is it worth it? Her body will have to change and readjust so much that she really will hardly be a female afterwards. She wont be able to have kids and do all the other things most women class as things a woman should do thats for sure. If she's willing to sacrifice all that makes her a female and put her self thru that then by all means let her be there... but how many women want to or even can make that sacrifice

[@Anonymous18817]

Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. What advice would you give for women that want to be SEALs?? If you had to go to BUD/S again, how would you prepare differently? What books or workout programs would you recommend? Most female SEAL candidates struggle with carrying the boats and logs, doing pull ups, having grip strength and completing the “Dirty Name” on the obstacle course. Also, a lot of female SEAL candidates break their legs or develop stress fractures.

[@Shadow.behind.mountains]

Yeah I mean there was a woman in the Swedish SOG, she described it as most woman have childbirth as number 1 most painful experience in their life, for her child birth was 2nd behind selection… also when you hear her she is quite masculine 😅

[@justfair1817]

Awesome I love both ur channels.

[@10Cnote]

The facts are the facts it's as simple as that. Women and men are built differently geneticslly for certain things and carrying heavy loads on our shoulders is our thing but women can carry weight around their waists because their biological design is to carry babies to term. The other obvious point you two gents pointed out is men will instinctively protect the women who wee will always see as weak and vulnerable but in the end it comes down to who can pass the standards set. If they pass and then during the selection course that pass has to be weighed up with the potential problems that will effect the unit as a whole not just her. And that has to be explained to women before they attend selection.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

I agree

[@martin2560]

I've worked with women before. They did the deed.

[@heathwasson7811]

There's only about 600 women in the entire military in combat arms. Less than half of those have even been in combat. But every time I see one of these comment sections, there's dozens of guys who served with one of these 300 some odd unicorns white knighting for them. Makes me awful dubious.

[@campagnollo]

Women in 75th Rangers? Sure. Women in SEALs? No Problem. But Special Forces? I do see a problem. It's not that they can't perform as well as the men, but part of the S.F. mission is to go to third world countries and train the people there. The problem is that the men there will think that women are not good for anything except cook, clean and have babies. The idea of getting guerilla warfare training from a woman would be abhorrent to them, no matter how capable or accomplished she is.

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Thanks for sharing