Pagani GMT - Great Value or Waste of Money?

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Wonders of Watchdom

Wonders of Watchdom

Күн бұрын

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@greekpapi
@greekpapi 2 жыл бұрын
I picked one of these up for 80 bucks, wore it to work, the pool, the beach...etc for almost 4 months straight. The watch did not have any scratches on the crystal or the bezel and did not lose or gain a single minute in that time. Very well worth the money.....
@lj9655
@lj9655 2 жыл бұрын
What age has your Pagani? Does it work correctly the movement at the actual time? Thank you
@jjakiefte2165
@jjakiefte2165 2 жыл бұрын
@@lj9655 Please read the comment, that says it all....
@Tom_H327
@Tom_H327 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you stop wearing it?
@GottiRC
@GottiRC 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tom_H327 he didnt, he only said he wore it 4 months straight, to prove his point of durability, learn to read
@Tom_H327
@Tom_H327 2 жыл бұрын
@@GottiRC i can read. he said he wore for 4 months straight. Well, what happened in month 5, is what I was asking. Learn to not be a jerk.
@daresome1
@daresome1 2 жыл бұрын
I work in a DIY store and am used to people expecting 100% of the service for the lowest price. My L’Oreo submariner came so sharp I had to do a similar sanding. There is a reason you pay $100 instead of $10000. If you are expecting Rolex quality, you need to pay! By the way, as a salaryman I love the Paganis and other homages. Beautiful but affordable.
@badboy_17.
@badboy_17. Жыл бұрын
Nice comment
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 2 жыл бұрын
So, the PD offers roughly 80% (granted, a very subjective assessment) of the Rolex for less than 1% of the price. Even if it's only 50% as good as a Rolex, it's astoundingly good bang for the buck.
@justmeeagainn
@justmeeagainn 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a ridiculous thing to say.
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 2 жыл бұрын
@@justmeeagainn And why is that?
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 2 жыл бұрын
@Mrs. Riki Chinese watches are very often equipped with very reliable and accurate Japanese movements. Sometimes even Swiss movements. They are usually very nicely finished, with no more flaws than watches costing many, many times more. And what tiny flaws they may have are inconsequential considering the price-to-performance ratio they provide. If your ego doesn't allow to see this, the loss is yours.
@admaneb
@admaneb 2 жыл бұрын
@Mrs. Riki snob
@siimot
@siimot 2 жыл бұрын
@Mrs. Riki Nothing wrong with pagani design watches reliable and good value, don't get why some people get so annoyed by them lol pretty much 99% of people don't give a damn what watch is on your wrist, so if you like it buy it
@oweibor
@oweibor 2 жыл бұрын
I got one of these and I've got to say... Outside some minor finishing touches... This watch is a match with Rolex. You get 90% - 95% of what a Rolex offers at 1% of the price. It's well worth it.
@Twenty-fifthofMay1967
@Twenty-fifthofMay1967 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. I had the Rolex GMT Master 1, and it gained, at least, 30 seconds a day. And that was with a new movement fitted by an AD. This Pagani one, whoich I love, gains some 3 seconds a day at times. Other times it gains 1 second a day. Stuff the costs of Rolex and Omega, buy Pagani...
@mikewenlov55
@mikewenlov55 4 ай бұрын
Mine is accurate and totally reliable.
@alycks6056
@alycks6056 Жыл бұрын
Amazing in-depth review. I’m impressed by the brand. The $400 cocktail seiko doesn’t even give me the sapphire crystal but these do. Mind boggling
@TheAirmacguy
@TheAirmacguy Жыл бұрын
Yes and I order the SSK GMT. I am told it’s difficult or not possible to replace it with sapphire 😢
@terrylee8333
@terrylee8333 Жыл бұрын
that tell you the insane market up lol it marketing like a diamond it just a piece of coal lol. I guess rolex is profit margin is 5 million percent lol .
@markloubser2433
@markloubser2433 2 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased an Air Kng from Pagani which was exactly as unfinished as I expected. After a pleasant evening buffing out all the sharp edges, case and bracelet I have an excellent watch (nh35) which is extremely comfortable and has become my preferred daily wearer despite having many others to choose from.
@Mikiel-dh4bg
@Mikiel-dh4bg 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Pagani Design PD1644 (Dytona homage) with an oyster bracelet; I have not experienced any sharp edges or falling apart problems. Indeed, very happy with it.
@akiqbal8160
@akiqbal8160 9 ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@BigDuke6ixx
@BigDuke6ixx Жыл бұрын
I've worn mine for a couple of years with no comfort issues. Don't forget to blue locktite the pins in if you take then out. All my pins were oiled and loctited. As for fake/homage, I note that quite a few Rolex owners also own a 'replica' that they use as a place holder when on holiday etc. while the real one stays in the family safe.
@markotb
@markotb Жыл бұрын
Only a weak wrist would notice the sharp edges, that dont ever actually touch the skin, would call this a negative. But given how good the Pagani Design watches are, the reviewers have to give something negative to balance out the review, even if it is minor.
@BigDuke6ixx
@BigDuke6ixx Жыл бұрын
@@markotb exactly. It's a tool watch anyway.
@BigDuke6ixx
@BigDuke6ixx Жыл бұрын
@@markotb yeah, calling it 'complete junk out of the box' and 'unwearable' just flags this channel up as one that's not worth my time looking it.
@Dante80
@Dante80 2 жыл бұрын
Just I wanted to say that I really enjoy your content. The reviews are detailed and thoughtful, the prose is excellent and your narrative style addictive. Many thanks, and keep doing what you are doing!
@JohnDavis-ol7qg
@JohnDavis-ol7qg 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I bought the green Hulk version. I didn't find any of the sharp edges , but it's 3 years old and wonder if the Covid shutdown and labor shortage, that they said , just send them without buffing them. I found mine very accurate, only losing 3 second in a 5 day period. I liked it so much, I ordered this version. It never showed up. Ali Express did refund me afyer 9 months. They are great quality for the money
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Yes, the under-finished case and bracelet could be something new - due to a new supplier, for cost savings, or a labor issue as you said.
@markdarwin4390
@markdarwin4390 2 жыл бұрын
Got the Pepsi version of this and the Hulk subby homage like you, really happy with both of them.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot to ask in the video…what do you think about homage watches? Do you think small brands should be able to copy designs of famous brands and just change the logo or make minor changes? Or, do you think a person should buy the originating brand or nothing?
@ordoabchao4202
@ordoabchao4202 2 жыл бұрын
I would be embarrassed to wear a "hommage" watch, to me it's basically the same as a counterfeit.
@Buck380
@Buck380 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t mind homage watches at all. It seems the practice only increases demand for the more expensive original, while at the same time letting the average person enjoy a watch and perhaps a hobby. With that said most can find common agreement that fake/replicas are bad and for obvious reasons. But I do not begrudge budget friendly homage watches that help keep money in peoples pockets for food and rent. I’d rather see a young person buy a homage and save their money for tuition or something else to better society. Leave luxury watch prices to the rich and foolish.
@markfurman4386
@markfurman4386 2 жыл бұрын
If one is limited to only brand items that cost tens of thousands of dollars, one never enters the watch enthusiast grouping. Watch ownership has severely dropped since cell phones came out. I've asked people who answered they didn't use watches. They see no need. Watch ownership may not be a fetish yet, but it's certainly lost it's accommodation amongst working men and women. It's now a much more specialized demographic compared to the days of my youth.
@markfurman4386
@markfurman4386 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's important to keep in mind, the watch industry only exists because of the economies of mass retail sales. When enough people decline to buy watches, the industry shrinks and begins to disappear. Inexpensive clones, copies, alternatives, or whatever you prefer as a referring title, they allow people such as I to enter the watch collecting field at a low enough price to make doing so an enjoyable, affordable hobby. I'm up to around 50 watches, and learning SO much. It's great! Small shiny valuables that I can wear, and no pot metal Timexes in the bunch. Took years for the bumps and rashes on my left wrist to heal. Now, stainless steel cases with better movements, watch bands I can add links to, which was a learning experience by itself. (Large wrists). Yes, we need homage brands!
@commentjedi
@commentjedi 2 жыл бұрын
It's a guilty pleasure. It's a cheat. Nice to get top design so cheap!
@guyo68
@guyo68 Жыл бұрын
Nice review. However, I do not agree with the adamant claim that Pagani watches are unwearable out of the box. I haven't finished any of mine any further, and while some may indeed have a few rough corners, I've found them generally comfortable to wear, day and night, right from the start. And this includes the Seiko NH-34 powered version of the watch on review here.
@padleydaley
@padleydaley 2 жыл бұрын
Out of the box - the MOST comfortable watch ever! No sharp edges, perfect
@SlimWhittman
@SlimWhittman Жыл бұрын
I own 12 PD homage watches like this in different colors and styles, and a Watchdives sub homage, and a two tone sub homage by San Martin. Each have their strong points and overall I have almost no complaints. I wear a slightly different style or color watch each day and enjoy them all. Accuracy is acceptable for the price. The cyclops is my only gripe but my vision isn't great so that may be a me problem not a watch problem. I dealt with sharp edges with some 3k grit sand paper and a little time rubbing the edges down. The boxes these come in are not a concern in my opinion. I prefer they spend the money on the watch building and not the box that I discard upon receipt.
@TheBimmer74
@TheBimmer74 2 жыл бұрын
I bought one. No sharp edges at all. Very easy to resize the bracelet. On my Timegrapher it is gaining only 4 seconds per day with zero beat error and a healthy amplitude. The only improvement I could suggest is that Pagani should employ a bidirectional bezel like the new Seiko GMTs have. Other than that this Pagani is a great watch for $100.
@ThatGuyUpThere
@ThatGuyUpThere Жыл бұрын
The fact Paganni tends to use seiko movements is a good value for the money, so I can spare some roughness for 120 Dlls workhorse watch.
@DavidV4444
@DavidV4444 4 ай бұрын
I didn’t find the edges sharp at all on the two I have . Nice review!
@srdjr6760
@srdjr6760 2 жыл бұрын
I own several Pagani Design watches. Finish quality varies. I have encountered stripped bracelet screws and some sharpness in the machining, though not terribly bad, mostly just burrs on the bezel. My Orient Ray 2 has better quality control and final finishing. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another PD watch but I would avoid buying from anywhere with a difficult return process. I've had a great experience with Amazon and their easy return system.
@MarkDanger777
@MarkDanger777 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I wish I saw this comment before ordering 1 from Ali Express. Crossing my fingers hoping it's a good one
@srdjr6760
@srdjr6760 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarkDanger777 I'm sure it will be fine.
@richardkuehn7015
@richardkuehn7015 9 ай бұрын
I’ve got two in blue and red ‘Pepsi’ colours. One with the Oyster bracelet, the other with Jubilee. It’s a great little watch with fantastic value for money. 👍😊👍
@BK-pg5fr
@BK-pg5fr 2 жыл бұрын
I have just bought the Batman GMT and would say none of the negative comments like sharp edges , screws falling off , bad packaging and wearing it for 2 weeks causing redness on the wrist existed ! The Watch is perfect !!! Much better quality than the Seikos and Citizens in build quality ! The finishing is superb! I have ordered another 3 more pieces with different designs
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 2 жыл бұрын
Several others have said the same - it seems to be hit and miss. Amazon ratings have a few comments now about sharpness, but hopefully it was a supplier or temporary issue that’s now corrected.
@tontwilly
@tontwilly 2 жыл бұрын
Really good review. Your information about removing sharp edges worked on my new pagani 1701 i recently purchased. The watch was very painful on my wrist but now is very comfortable. Thanks!
@jonathanturner4220
@jonathanturner4220 Жыл бұрын
Just picked one up today. Great looking piece. I did not encounter the sharp edges that you mentioned on your review with mine.
@d3xmeister
@d3xmeister 2 жыл бұрын
You’re back ! Awesome video ! Thank you !
@wans5885
@wans5885 2 жыл бұрын
always happy to see you upload a new video, oh and by the way congrats for the 1m view on invicta pro diver review
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@eternaldrive
@eternaldrive 2 жыл бұрын
I agree these Chinese watches are super sharp from the factory. I've had a Cronos sub, Pagani Daytona homage, a Steeldive Willard SD1970 (this is probably the least sharp but I put it on a waffle strap which helps out) All are sharp. I have the Invicta pro diver as well and your right about it having better finishing but they cheap out on the crystal, bracelet, and bezel (also the display window popped out on mine). think I will do some hand finishing so thanks for the guide.
@billsomerset238
@billsomerset238 Ай бұрын
I find it amusing comparing a $77 watch from aliexpress to one that cost $25,000 and say its not as nice. Duh. They both show you what time it is exactly the same way. I guess a status symbol has something going for it. I'll stay with the homage.
@KenFritz-j8u
@KenFritz-j8u 3 ай бұрын
I enjoyed your quote matter of fact” video. I like to “tinker” so this may be a great deal for me. Thanks for taking the time. It took to put this video together.
@SOPHIAFLYGIRL
@SOPHIAFLYGIRL 3 ай бұрын
Once Pagani removes the words from the dial they will sell more watches. I understand marketing thought it would probably "sell itself" by having the name on the dial. Better to have someone strike up a friendly conversation about who makes that beautiful timepiece. People LOVE to talk about their watches, it makes them feel proud and they love to promote the brand. By merely looking at the watch dial you don't get to ask how does it wear, was the price reasonable, how was shipping, customer service, etc. So remove the Pagani Designs wording from the dial and keep the logo and watch sales start to climb.
@commentjedi
@commentjedi 2 жыл бұрын
Great revue! I always do refinements on my cheapies: Filing , grinding, polishing, etc. One thing I'd do here is make the insert sit flush with the rim of the bezel.
@victorzaak
@victorzaak Жыл бұрын
Hey i want to learn more about these fixes can you explain what you mean by making the insert sit flush?
@patricj951
@patricj951 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for review. I saw that Pagani updated the movement to Seiko NH34. I guess that is a quality improvement.
@MarkJoseph-vv4pj
@MarkJoseph-vv4pj 5 ай бұрын
Picked up this model on Aliexpress for $35.07 USD last year. I guess it was the last one in their inventory. Never been more happier.
@JWoody-yc7bt
@JWoody-yc7bt 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your straight forward review .Your honesty is refreshing !! I may have to try one of these budget minded watches out soon...
@PasanJayaweeraYashoda
@PasanJayaweeraYashoda 2 жыл бұрын
Please make more watch videos regularly! I really like your journalistic approach to reviews!
@niocitB
@niocitB 18 күн бұрын
You don't buy the brand Rolex but the Design - for 80 bucks you make a big deal!
@karlsenula9495
@karlsenula9495 2 жыл бұрын
My Pagani GMT doesn't have the issues yours does ... or maybe I don't notice it as much or have the expectations for the price ... mine is 3 years old ... still runs fine, looks good, alignment is spot on bracelet is good (a bit unfinished like the case) not bad when you consider the price point lum sucks but what do we expect for the sub $100 I paid in the sale - for a decent looking well functioning GMT. I recently got a Citizen Promaster Eco-drive Land GMT Worldtime and my Pagani still gets wrist time. If you go in not expecting a perfect watch (finishing lum etc.) It is great value. As for issues - well I've seen reviews of multiple Seikos and Multiple Rolex's with issues ... for hugely more expensive prices.and fans of those brands seem to put up with them so I'm not too picky with a Pagani design homage.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good assessment. I have much more “perfect” watches but I still enjoy wearing this one. My coworker (who knows nothing about watches) was admiring it during lunch and asked to take a look. I handed it to him to inspect, and I asked him to guess how much it costs. His guess was $8000.
@stevetutt5560
@stevetutt5560 2 жыл бұрын
Just got mine... and i must say its superb for the money, well done to you Pagani
@1stamendmentmedia464
@1stamendmentmedia464 Жыл бұрын
I have the same watch in the Pepsi, put it on a leather strap when I took it out of the box. 100% wearable, mine does not have any uncomfortable sharp edges. I own almost a 100 watches of various price points and I have to say for the $85 I paid for this you cannot find more watch for the money especially when you factor in the styling.
@turbyoulance
@turbyoulance 7 ай бұрын
I collect homage watches and I don't care what other people think about it. Each to his own .
@DavidV4444
@DavidV4444 4 ай бұрын
I am also a Rolex owner (GMT Master II) and I have no issue with my Paganini, SteelDive or San Martin.
@ssnerd583
@ssnerd583 2 жыл бұрын
I own 5 or 6 Orient watches, all mechanical, and their fit and finish are shockingly good all the way around.....and their time keeping varies from average to shockingly good......I just ordered the Pagani as I really wanted another two tone Submariner homage to go with my Orient one(which is and has been unavailable for at least 10 years, now).
@xenonny
@xenonny 2 жыл бұрын
hows ur opinion after ~2-3months with this watch?
@ssnerd583
@ssnerd583 2 жыл бұрын
@@xenonny .....I like it a LOT....and it gets lots of comments. the timekeeping is real good, too.
@ssnerd583
@ssnerd583 2 жыл бұрын
@@xenonny i really like this one. its actually VERY well done and I have gotten many compliments from people on it and they all freak when I tell them it cost what it did.....lol I have since gotten a BB58 in black face/red bezel that is also VERY c00l!!!
@SirMopy
@SirMopy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ssnerd583 there is no BB58 with red bezel...........
@ssnerd583
@ssnerd583 2 жыл бұрын
@@SirMopy Then what, EXACTLY am I wearing on my wrist at this moment?? Chopped liver??? its a Pagani BB58 black dial, red bezel from ali
@TheBrokenBMW
@TheBrokenBMW 17 күн бұрын
I bought a Rolex Yacht Master few months ago, but I still equally enjoy wearing owning Casios, Seikos and even an Invictas. After watching this review, will be ordering my first Pagani soonest.
@4BLKROSES
@4BLKROSES Жыл бұрын
Mine does not have sharp edges, looks pretty good
@darensmith2336
@darensmith2336 3 ай бұрын
I have read all the negative reviews abut Pahani Design watches. I have the 1644 Daytona hamoge. It works just fine. It was a good Amazon purchase. The down side I found that some KZbin reviewes just like with Invicta like all watches there are sometimes bad ones that get through.
@user-tk7km1sr7e
@user-tk7km1sr7e 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative review. I got the Batman version with the oyster bracelet and couldn't be happier. One thing though, instead of oiling the bracelet screws loctite should be used. Cheers
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, using purple or blue loctite (on the threads only if course) also works. I haven’t had any issues after oiling.
@ScratchyBaws
@ScratchyBaws Жыл бұрын
I bought one years ago and the whole thing was sharp edged all over and got my money back. Pagani store was a nightmare to deal with so i left Paypal to deal with them. My first and last watch from Pagani because if you can't get it right first time i don't want to know. Watch was binned. Before people spout off about it being the bad egg in a basket the whole watch casing, bezel, crown and strap had sharp edges plus the straps are bloody awful. Felt like i was touching and wearing barbed wire and razor blades There are better watches out there (maybe not GMT) for your hard earned cash than Pagani. Their watches may look nice but shite finishing.
@KRISS-music
@KRISS-music Жыл бұрын
great presentation. I have bought this watch but pepsi version. It doesnt have any sharp edges and it just fantastic overall :) keep it up. have a great day :)
@erizzle67
@erizzle67 2 жыл бұрын
I got the Batman version a couple months ago. At first seemed great. But noticed I’d set it down only for it to be stopped the next morning or off by a LOT of time. Like 20 minutes. But if I wore the watch it was fine. So finally I put the watch down on its side in front of me while at work and kept an eye on it. Ok I thought I saw it stop for a second. Then again I saw it just stop for ten seconds. Then again. Always at the 32 second mark it would stop for ten seconds at least. At other marks it would pause briefly. Sometimes at 32 seconds it would stop and never start up unless you touched it. I sent it back. Won’t get that movement again in any watch. Coincidentally, the only other gmt I have is a Tudor and the gmt set on the crown just quit working. I just have bad luck with gmt watches!
@Vidmr2407
@Vidmr2407 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review! I have not had this sharp case issue with my several pagani watches. I had some other issues, though, including the crown stem being too short and one gmt with this movement that died after a few weeks with no obvious reason on quick inspection under 10x loop. Most of my pagani watches were under $75 with Aliexpress sales. Anyway, cheers! And happy new year!
@sparrow7478
@sparrow7478 Жыл бұрын
Same here, I think the sharp part mentioned was the plastic hanging over the edge slightly 😂
@nolebuc1
@nolebuc1 3 ай бұрын
Went back and forth on the "Batman" GMT homages and settled for the Sturhling. Main reason is that it has a Ronda Swiss movement instead of the Chinese Pearl or Seagul.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 3 ай бұрын
From what I understand, Stuhrling uses Chinese seagull moments, but breaks them down and rebuilds them in Switzerland so they can be re-branded as Swiss made. They were using Claro CL-88s for quite a while. They also manufacture their watches in China. Their website used to suggest they’re German but I see they have stopped doing that. They still avoid saying they’re made in China: “a team of watchmaking legends half a hemisphere away…the first choice of everyone from Apple to Bose…”
@nolebuc1
@nolebuc1 3 ай бұрын
Interesting. That would add a lot of time and production cost to an inexpensive watch. I would assume they would charge a premium for a "Swiss made" or " Swiss parts" watch. The watch cost me $79! I would also assume Ronda would have a real problem with them advertising a Ronda movement if it wasn't. I opened it up and the movement does say "Ronda Swiss made." It also has "Ronda movement" stamped on the back case along with "Krysterna crystal." Who knows anymore. Lots of games being played among the micro brands.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 3 ай бұрын
If it’s only $79, it’s a quartz. A Ronda Swiss quartz movement wholesales for about $5.
@nolebuc1
@nolebuc1 3 ай бұрын
​@@WondersofWatchdomIndeed it is a quartz. Great looking, great time keeping at a great price. Best of all, I have $24,921 left to invest. Peace.
@Man_Ray78
@Man_Ray78 2 жыл бұрын
I like your channel. Have been watching 5 of them tonight after i stumbled on your video about Timex because i am thinking about buying some for presents. Keep up the good work. I have ordered two Pagani watches last 6 months. Firstly, I bought the 38 mm. Quartz PAGANI DESIGN PD 1731 in green. Came with a ''genuine leather''Strap with a butterfly claps that I just could not figure out how to wear or close, hated it, and a Nato strap, so I swapped it with a black silicone strap, and it's just so plain and simple watch. Should have oredered the Oyster braclet. Paid about 68 dollars plus 10 dollars in taxes. I am happy with it. My first watc in years. A bit too little for me. The other one was the Pagani PD1661. 40 mm.Hulk, green Submariner homage. For 74 dollars plus 10 in taxes on the 11.11 Sale on Aliexpress. I gave my stepdad that as a Christmas present 5 days ago, and he is so happy with it that I can't complain. It has a lot of the same specs as this PD1662, but with an Oyster bracelet and not an GMT. He has not yet complained, just endorsed it.
@pagepro211
@pagepro211 Жыл бұрын
how do you know for sure it has sapphire crystal?
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Жыл бұрын
Other reviewers have used a diamond tester to check.
@pagepro211
@pagepro211 Жыл бұрын
@@WondersofWatchdom ok, but its best to prove it in your videos unless you all pass around the same watch to other reviewers then it wouldn't matter.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Жыл бұрын
The manufacturer says it’s sapphire. Other reviewers have tested this same watch, and it’s sapphire. That’s good enough for me. Sapphire crystals are not expensive. They wholesale for about $25-30.
@albertrossignol
@albertrossignol 2 жыл бұрын
You had made mention to adding lube to the screws... Which lube would you recommend?
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 2 жыл бұрын
You can either use watch grease or (my favorite choice) silicone scuba diver’s grease.
@johnm7882
@johnm7882 2 жыл бұрын
Between this watch and the Invict Pro Watch, which one would you choose? By the way great video.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a tough call. The Pagani has better features and so far runs perfectly. I’ve been wearing it a lot. But if I had to bet my life on my watch working, I’d take the invicta with the Seiko movement.
@johnm7882
@johnm7882 2 жыл бұрын
@@WondersofWatchdom Thank you for your honest reply. Great video by the way.
@artem7804
@artem7804 2 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE FINNALY BACK YAY
@52dislikes
@52dislikes 8 ай бұрын
Pagani Design makes great watches
@jonathanturner4220
@jonathanturner4220 Жыл бұрын
The Rolex Sub is an iconic design which is why it is copied so much by other brands.
@baronedipiemonte3990
@baronedipiemonte3990 2 жыл бұрын
I bought, and currently wearing the Orient Ray 2 based on yours and another review. I'm very well pleased. It's accurate enough for me 5-7 minutes a month. I've been wanting a good GMT that's within my price range. I have the same exact Invicta that you showed... and it stopped working several years ago. I'm a communications operator and most everything is done according to GMT. I would just ask if the quality (accuracy & luminosity) is as good as my Orient ? Or should I just go with a Torgoen for a few dollars more ?
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not familiar with Torgoen so I can’t give advice on that one, but I checked their website and they appear to be about 2-3x the price for a quartz, so not really comparable. To answer your main question, the lume is mediocre strength. A nice pilot’s blue but definitely not superluminova.
@baronedipiemonte3990
@baronedipiemonte3990 2 жыл бұрын
@@WondersofWatchdom Thanks for that. I think I'll just wait for Orient, or take a closer look at the Phoibus Eagle Ray GMT ($200 last year). And there's a Vincero that has a second time zone in a sub dial. Glad you are back doing these !
@BK-pg5fr
@BK-pg5fr 2 жыл бұрын
Go for the Pagani Watch ! You won’t regret !
@RichSera2-qm5rl
@RichSera2-qm5rl 6 ай бұрын
I got one and there's no sharp edges at all.
@smoove314
@smoove314 6 ай бұрын
Same, I ordered one off an aliexpress sale for $40 expecting the worst. No sharp edges anywhere. The bezel doesn't ratchet as tight as I'd like but there's no play. PD must be upping their QC.
@JorgeOAguirreTapia
@JorgeOAguirreTapia 2 жыл бұрын
Great and complete Review, Thanks, maybe consider a video with tips AND the process to finish edges rotate tool included
@thatwhitecat
@thatwhitecat 2 жыл бұрын
Thx for this video I own the Pagani design black bay 58 in red and its a great piece no sharp edges or anything so maybe u had bad luck? edit: I have now owned several pagani watches and I only find problems at the clasp
@BobbieGWhiz
@BobbieGWhiz 3 күн бұрын
My sub $50 Addiesdive Tudor GMT quartz homage watch was comfortable out of the box. Bracelet didn’t fall apart either.
@jwilkinson341
@jwilkinson341 Жыл бұрын
I just got mine a few days ago. It does not have any of your problems no sharp edges also keep exact time as my laptop I got the blue and red it looks a bit blingy now I wish I had got blue and black, but at this price, I can order another $103 CAD
@rodgilbert894
@rodgilbert894 11 ай бұрын
I have had a PD-1662 for over a year and only wore it once. I kept it on my desk and would give it a shake every now and then. Recently, the stem started feeling rough like metal rubbing metal and now it will not screw in all the way. Also when I shake it for about 30 seconds it only runs for a minute or less. When it was new,afew shakes would run it for thirty minutes or so. Thinking about getting the Seiko NH34A GMT TMI movement to replace the one that is in there now. I think it has the DG5833 movement right now. If you change your movement could you put it on youtube? Thanks
@seandicken7620
@seandicken7620 Жыл бұрын
Love my Pagani Pepsi. Great for a Magnum PI costume on a budget.
@darioswatchclub8
@darioswatchclub8 Жыл бұрын
4:44 We don't like sharp edges! 18:49 3 Seconds! Fantastic!
@endtimestcg5146
@endtimestcg5146 Жыл бұрын
Pagani GMT or Incvicta Pro Diver`?
@garynico9872
@garynico9872 2 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend Orient Ray/Mako or Pagani Design watch?
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Lol. They’re both good. The orient has a time-tested movement, is more solidly built and better finished, but also costs more.
@THUGGO773
@THUGGO773 Жыл бұрын
What did you oil the screws with?
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Жыл бұрын
Clear silicone grease. But even regular household all-purpose oil is fine - you just need a tiny amount so as not to attract grit. The movement requires specific types of grease but these don’t.
@miquelponssanchez5470
@miquelponssanchez5470 8 ай бұрын
Another great review. Thanks for the explanation.
@teddyhenriquez5192
@teddyhenriquez5192 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same watch but mine says explorer on the dial bought it 2 years ago and still holding strong
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 9 ай бұрын
I put a small drop of Loctite 222 on the screws in the bracelet coz mine came loose too. Now that's no issue anymore.
@dannycrover8710
@dannycrover8710 Жыл бұрын
Bought mine. Want one since 2018
@omoniyikaye
@omoniyikaye 9 ай бұрын
The quality is close to invicta. I recommend a rubber strap or get the alternative chunky bracelets.
@oliverfasola19
@oliverfasola19 2 жыл бұрын
I got my first automatic watch 1.5 years ago, went from a $15 Casio to a Russian Vostok. While I definitely don’t have the best automatic watch at least I can say mine has history and isn’t a copy of anything else. While this is a well made and Beautiful Watch I’d had to own one and have people ask me or say “oh nice Rolex” or “is that a Rolex” some people may find it nice to be asked this but you can’t claim this is a Rolex; I’d hate to have to explain to someone it’s a Chinese watch modelled after a Rolex. If you just want a nice watch and don’t care what people think this is a great option just ignore the people who say you have a “fake Rolex” these are honestly nice watches, most people don’t know watches, they just wanna know if it’s a Rolex or not. Sad but people will judge if they ask you if you have a Rolex and you say no
@Tom_H327
@Tom_H327 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Invicta Pro Diver 29178 (42mm Sub Homage) on a bond nato strap. I absolutely love it. Its my most worn watch these days. Recently someone asked me about it. They asked, "so whats that on your wrist there?" I immediately smashed their inquiring nature by replying, "oh, this is a garbage watch, its my beater." They laughed and I laughed and we moved on to another topic. What I did there was downplayed my love for the watch and thereby didn't have to explain what type of watch it is and why its not a Rolex. Believe it or not, I get compliments or asked about my cheap as shit watches. But my Hamilton Khaki Diver? Not one person has ever asked me about that watch. Its the most expensive watch I own (love that one too) 😂
@b.santos8804
@b.santos8804 Жыл бұрын
Truthfully, for me the whole "modeled after a Rolex" does give me pause. Even though objectively watches such as this and the various Invicta homage watches are in fact excellent watches with excellent value at an affordable price for just about anyone - the fact that they very much look like a far more expensive watch, but aren't - make me hesitant to buy them. Like if Toyota made a car to look almost exactly like a Ferrari, but with a Toyota motor and performance specs. People would initially be like. "Ooooh! Nice Ferrari!" but then you'd have to explain that, no, it's just a Toyota. Still a fine, reliable, excellent car, but certainly ***NOT*** a Ferrari. Meanwhile, a Toyota that looks like a Toyota can be honest with itself and proudly wear the reliability, durability, dependability and affordability of a Toyota.
@dennischen8887
@dennischen8887 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if the sharp edges are really QC issues because on my Tudor Pelagos 39, all the edges are extremely sharp. And I prefer it that way because the watch looks better that way and I don't have issues with the watch cutting into my skin.
@garyleigh
@garyleigh 2 жыл бұрын
Something meditative about watching these videos.
@bird718
@bird718 Ай бұрын
excellent review, now i'm considering this watch for my collection
@carentanbr
@carentanbr 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great, in depth review. I ordered one to try out.
@ec633
@ec633 8 ай бұрын
I have the same Pigani GMT same as yours. Luckily the case lug edges are not sharp at all. Might be just QC in manufacturing. 14:48
@regorschneid5245
@regorschneid5245 2 жыл бұрын
A mere minute with an Arkansas hard slip stone took care of all the sharp edges. Yes, shouldn't have to do that as a customer, but OK at the price. I lucked out and got a plus 2 second a day NH34A movement. Thanks for the "oil the screws" tip.
@TheNSAisWatching
@TheNSAisWatching 2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos, keep up the hard work Wonders of Watchdom!
@souladventurer8911
@souladventurer8911 10 ай бұрын
People are saying that this is a sub $100 watch but the newer one that has nh34 movement is sitting roughly at $150 before tax + shipping
@gavinalexander501
@gavinalexander501 Жыл бұрын
great video - like Pagani itself- honest and to the point!
@Parcival77
@Parcival77 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me if it has weight to it? For me the weight of a watch is kinda important. And if this one is light, it’s not worth it. Soo does this watch have some weight?
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Жыл бұрын
It’s 142 grams. I like heavy watches too.
@stevepick9527
@stevepick9527 2 жыл бұрын
Love my Pagani GMT… for the price you just can’t beat it. It is great looking and keeps very good time. I must wear my watch a little looser than you because I had no issues with being uncomfortable, although I did file down the edge of the case as you did. For this price you just can’t go wrong.
@jackiemoon_lms
@jackiemoon_lms 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you back! Great job with the review. I absolutely hated and had so many issues with it. The bracelet broke, sharp edges, gained nearly a minute a day, cyclops was way off center and the bezel insert was lined up worse than a Seiko. Even the 12 on the bezel was about 3 minutes off line when the triangle was centered on the 12 o’clock.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 2 жыл бұрын
The alignment in mine was fine. How could the bezel insert be misaligned? The bracelet and edges are a known issue for sure, as discussed in the video.
@kevinpuloski
@kevinpuloski 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Junk watch
@markfurman4386
@markfurman4386 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a jig and some bezel insertion tools would help those who have a bezel not fully pressed into place?
@athanr171
@athanr171 3 күн бұрын
I'm not sure about their watches. I bought one before, the crown came off after a few months. Thinking about giving them a 2nd chance.
@stephenkayll5241
@stephenkayll5241 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I came across this review, I like it, its honest and that is important. I'm going to buy one, now!
@nigelbowler1601
@nigelbowler1601 Жыл бұрын
Hi a fair review bought the pagani with the oyster style strap & had no issues with the case ? poor quality control your one slipped thru this cheers from the UK
@faheemwyne5098
@faheemwyne5098 Жыл бұрын
I bought the same watch (except mine was the root beer and with an oyster bracelet) after the review on Just One More Watch. No problems even with the SLIGHT rough finish which wasn't enough to make it uncomfortable. Guess that's a quality control issue. But overall a good review
@RogueBrit
@RogueBrit 2 жыл бұрын
My Paganis (two of them) are well finished no sharp edges and keep brilliant time
@wngimageanddesign9546
@wngimageanddesign9546 7 ай бұрын
I recently picked up the 'Pepsi' with Jubilee bracelet. Added the Oyster bracelet as option. All for under $100. Can't beat the value for the level of workmanship and quality. BTW mine has 120 clicks for the bezel.
@stardog1066
@stardog1066 Жыл бұрын
Only just seen this vi's as was looking to try 1 of these. I never knew that you're meant to oil the screws in a bracelet, in my strapcode super engineer bracelet I used watch makers 222 I think it was (its purple) locktite on the screws. You can still unscrew them with force and care
@Stormtr00perll42
@Stormtr00perll42 Жыл бұрын
What kind/brand do you use to grease the screws?
@Buck380
@Buck380 2 жыл бұрын
As always, excellent video 👏🏻
@dobiloru
@dobiloru 2 жыл бұрын
my gmt one goes 30 secs ahead of time a day , should i get a demagnetizer ?
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 2 жыл бұрын
Probably not. You just need to regulate it. There are many KZbin videos about how to do this (one of mine shows it but I can’t remember which one). Use a toothpick to tap the regulator bar toward the minus sign. Tap a very tiny amount, then time it for 30 minutes against a digital stopwatch (ex on your phone) and see how it is. A small move makes a big difference.
@dobiloru
@dobiloru 2 жыл бұрын
@@WondersofWatchdom im too scared to do this on my own, is it weird to bring an Hommage watch to a watch maker to regulate it?
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on the watchmaker. German-trained watchmakers probably wouldn’t touch it just on principle. Having said that, it really isn’t hard - you should give it a try.
@dobiloru
@dobiloru 2 жыл бұрын
@@WondersofWatchdom i tried it but i think i moved the wrong of the 2 things , is my watch done now ?
@lowersaxon
@lowersaxon 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say I like your reviews. Pagani as a brand is ok but not really satisfying, imho. I agree on the class of underrated Invicta Pro Divers.
@Cleatus546
@Cleatus546 Жыл бұрын
Hey, you left out the part where you cut open the outer packaging.
@picassoboy52
@picassoboy52 2 жыл бұрын
i have 2 pagani gmt, but rarely wear after i discovered steinhart. I did however order a pagani jubilee bracelet for one of them, of course it didnt fit, the end links were too wide, had to file them down. So just be aware you arent getting the highest precision in the world when you buy a pagani
@markdarwin4390
@markdarwin4390 2 жыл бұрын
My Pagani GMT came on an Oyster bracelet, but I bought a Jubilee from PD store, swapped it no problem.
@timhorack5468
@timhorack5468 2 жыл бұрын
I've had this watch for about a year now, mine also had sharp case edges but didn't really bother me. The cyclops on mine is terrible, I really have to look at it to see the date, othe than that I really enjoy it overall
@rbmwiv
@rbmwiv 2 жыл бұрын
I got one of the newer ones that have the Seiko NH34a gmt movement in it. I paid $150 for it but I rather take my chances on a off the shelf Seiko versus the reactivity unknown Chinese movement. Also all those sharp edges have been 45/ and its comfortable out of the box.
@edwardfaris8516
@edwardfaris8516 2 жыл бұрын
The nh34 is superior..for sure...😉
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