I Lost My Temper | Nicole's Desk Pt. 3

Watch our latest video! "Refinishing a Retro Heywood Wakefield Desk With A Stunning New Look!"
• Transforming A Retro H... -~-
0:00 - Shelf Roundovers
0:53 - Structural Instability
1:40 - The Top
5:08 - Knot-Filling with Epoxy
6:58 -Top Ends
9:01 - Edge Profile
10:14 - Attaching the Top
12:27 - Drawer Front
14:43 - Drawer Front Template
19:13 - Drawer Front Mortises
For the most part, I'm a pretty even-keeled guy. I don't lose my temper easily I don't usually get too emotional (outside of laughter) in the shop. But when disaster struck while routing mortises in my drawer front, I kind of lost it and threw my bluetooth headset on the ground. Perhaps it was my subconscious giving me an opportunity to try out the new version with the gel ear cushions. Anyway, the reason I got so upset was because the error was due to a bit malfunction. Oddly enough, I'm much better at dealing with mistakes caused by my own stupidity. Thankfully, I did make a backup piece and was able to use that to complete the drawer front. I also upgraded my bit to this one from Eagle America, which features a much better design for securing the bearings.
Aside from my temper tantrum, this video covers the construction and shaping of the top, attachement to the base, and the mortises in the drawer front. It's jam-packed with information and problem-solving.
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Eagle America 1/4" Flush Trim Bit (this is NOT the one that screwed up my part) - www.eagleamerica.com/product/...
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Part 1 - • Design, Legs, & Joiner...
Part 2 - • Thickness Tapers, Shel...
Part 3 - • I Lost My Temper | Nic...
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[@woodwhisperer]

0:00 - Shelf Roundovers 0:53 - Structural Instability 1:40 - The Top 5:08 - Knot-Filling with Epoxy 6:58 -Top Ends 9:01 - Edge Profile 10:14 - Attaching the Top 12:27 - Drawer Front 14:43 - Drawer Front Template 19:13 - Drawer Front Mortises

[@pessimistlad4965]

Solid hand tool tips, solid power tool tips and an interesting and amazing looking project. this series has been awesome, keep it up

[@woodwhisperer]

Thanks man!

[@evanbarnes9984]

I have to say Marc, I think the extra stressors of the world we live in make tempers worse right now. I'm normally incredibly mild mannered, and almost never get angry, but these last few months have been a bit different. Everything is just amplified right now, and since no real harm has come from my instances of increased frustration, I try not to get down on myself about it. You shouldn't either! The world's on fire, and occasionally things boil over right now. Broken headphones just aren't that bad of a consequence for losing your temper. I like how you talked about it though. This project is gorgeous! I've really been upping my woodworking game lately, chasing the examples you set.

[@andywlasniewski6810]

who else was disappointed that the headphone spike wasn't featured in the video?

[@l.k.1011]

Totally!

[@JasonRSpenny]

Yeah I was very disappointed that wasn't in there. If he needs to release a video, he should release "The Wood Whisperer loses his $#! +: à compilation of woodworking errors, 2006-2020." I would watch that on loop. 😂

[@woodwhisperer]

haha it would be a compilation of two scenes. :) I don't lose my temper very often, unless the kids are involved. :)

[@woodwhisperer]

It's not a moment I'm proud of and I'm not comfortable putting that out there to the general public. So the clip is in the Members area.

[@JasonRSpenny]

Marc, I hear you and I respect the boss move to make us sign up to see it. 😉. But really? This is the "last stand for pride?". Not the shaker video or the wigs? 😂🤣 May have to sign up now. 🤔 Take care.

[@denisdore643]

Wow! Loosing your temper is one thing. But being humble enough to share it with your viewers is, to me, a great sing of wisdom. Your wotk is absolutely amazing.

[@mitchellsmith3105]

"Finally I clamp the (edit) out of it" 5:00 Timing is spot on sir. Keep shining

[@mramseyISU]

I love the way walnut and white oak looks together.

[@davidweir7312]

I have been watching your videos for a few years now and can honestly say I have learned a great deal from you - thanks for sharing your human side as well - we’ve all been there!

[@MrJKellerLewis]

This project is so difficult! You had me saying "that's why he's the wood whisperer". Great job so far Marc!

[@909sickle]

I think I speak for everyone when I say we're gonna need to see the footage of you attacking those headphones. We know you have it!

[@dgoddard]

I second that.

[@jacksutherland8749]

I really enjoy your craftsmanship and presentation. Watching your operation of the Festool Miter saw I wanted to suggest a easier way. I first depress the lower trigger to move the blade in position. Then just press and "release" the safety at the top. Keep up the great videos!

[@Jagefo]

I appreciate you including when things don't go as planned and losing your cool. Makes the video more relatable. Glad I'm not the only one who gets frustrated like that!

[@aaroncashion7570]

Always appreciated you keeping it real Marc. I’ve enjoyed watching your perspective change on materials like “embrace the chaos” with the walnut. I’ve enjoyed the ride.

[@robertrussell6614]

That was very cool to admit the mistake and show the headphones. I laughed super hard because I've been that frustrated also. Thanks for the great content!

[@oatmeal63]

I've really enjoyed these videos on the desk. I like the longer, more detailed videos. Keep up the great work

[@phil.pinsky]

The message from this video (for me) is that graduating from beginner to moderate or even expert level woodworking is done by understanding the router. Also, don't cheap out on bits.

[@Evel1847]

This is such an amazing project! I really appreciate the honesty of your work. It shines through good (98%) and bad (2%). Either way it’s 100% informative and enjoyable

[@tundrawhisperer4821]

😂😂😂 “ and finally, I clamp the BLEEP out of it”! 👍🏻

[@novocaine009]

Niiiceee! Now I don't feel bad about breaking things in my shop. Very therapeutic 😌

[@jackwagon4313]

Just a stupid question... Who would give this cat a thumbs down?

[@padoco73]

There are no stupid questions unless you don't ask them. And in the words of Alfred Pennyworth, some people just want to watch the world burn.

[@FredMcIntyre]

Awesome work Marc! 😃👍🏻👊🏻

[@johnbaker5199]

i’m one of the most calm people on the planet but 30 seconds of frustration on a project that you had planned out perfectly i know i’d make the olympics for wrench throwing distance lol

[@andresfelipemoscosohernand2371]

Thanks for sharing. Probably harder to admit than we think. But we all appreciate the honesty. It makes us realize that we are not alone on this and that KZbin is not all perfect as a lot of people make it seem.

[@steenfraosterbro3268]

Marc "I'm not too concerned about perfection". That is bold considering Nicole is probably watching this.

[@brandonthebuildertx]

4:00 Oh yeah?! I see how it is, buddy!

[@woodwhisperer]

Haha accidental bird flip. 🦅

[@cyurchwoodworks]

Marc it's nice to see that you are in fact human. I had a similar incident with a guitar template shifting on the double sided tape while routing and had a very similar reaction.

[@MCsCreations]

It's looking beautiful, man! Nicely done! 😃 Just remember: it not the shop tools fault! 😬 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@deucerider430]

COMING SOON, TO A KZbin NEAR YOU! You heard about him, you've seen his destruction, and now IT'S - - - THE WOOD SCREAMER!!! But, in all seriousness, an inspiring piece of woodworking! Unfortunately,having suffered a minor health set-back earlier this year, (stroke) my motor skills aren't up to snuff but a piece like this inspires me to stretch what I CAN do! Thank you, seeing and learning how things are done helps! Now, if I could just get the hands and fingers to do what the brain wants! RIP headphones! (rest in pieces)

[@carlproduces]

I had the same headphones and did the exact same thing after the box joint jig moved while cutting some drawers. I am still finding pieces around the shop.

[@ralphbenson9682]

As to the flush trim router bit: I have used Whiteside RFT2100 and RFTD2100 1/4" flush trim bits for years and never had a failure like you experienced. And they are made in the USA!

[@ryanfinney7181]

Same thing happened to me last week! Minus the headphone hulk smash. I feel your pain

[@bloodgain]

I once bought a plastic fold-out work table thing. I tried to clamp something to it, but it kept popping loose as I would try to saw the piece. This happened several times, and I walked away mad. I didn't have a better option at the time, so I kept trying. Eventually, I was fed up, and yeah, Hulk smash! It wasn't very good for working on, but it did make an impressive explosion of plastic bits as it hit the garage floor.

[@rfphicks]

I've had a flush trim bit lose its bearing and it is super annoying! Lucky, the gouge it created in my piece could be covered up but totally feel your pain on this one.

[@CatCityDesign]

No glue on tenons! You just added years to my life.

[@joewallace7]

Solid Elf reference

[@briarfox637]

Keep things in perspective. Thousands in fantastic tools. Fantastic shop. A fubar'd mortise should be the least of your worries. Come work in my shop. I mean garage. Hot and humid garage. JK love your work. Fantastic build Mark.

[@charltonwang]

Oh...Marc. I know the feeling. The same thing happened to me with a pattern pit where the bearing stop collar set screw just came loose and the bearing actually shifted up the shaft and suddenly I was free routing everything. I was probably just as mad but I still have my Worktunes. :)

[@woodwhisperer]

Haha you’re a better man than me. 👍

[@charltonwang]

@@woodwhisperer Well...no. I think it's more that the stakes are much much higher on your projects than they are on mine. :)

[@aapoapina7390]

I'm truly shocked about the sudden and violent demise of the eardefenders. Hope they are now in peace and still playing music at the headphones-heaven.

[@Robyrob7771]

I’ve had that same router bit failure. Sucks when it happens and you don’t notice it right away. Didn’t throw my headphones but I wasn’t as invested either.

[@Danman1972]

The little clips is called a "C" clip. It slides in the groove on the bit. I would bet it was heat build up that got the clip hot and it flexed and broke or slide off. Maybe a short runs with it and checking often will help. being that the wood is dense (white oak) it likely adds some extra heat.

[@richs5422]

Or "E clip" or "E ring", depending on the company...

[@Meyerwoodworks]

The Bosch 1617 is plagued by these stupid little clips...before I got my Incra Master-R-Lift, adjusting it by hand always popped those e-clips out. Terrible design.

[@edgaraamaya1996]

Hello... thanks for all the videos.. was wondering if you have any videos about the best ways to fill the grain on porous woods such as zebra wood and best products to use? thanks again.

[@terristroh3965]

You had me at parallelogram

[@mikecalhoun8497]

If the bottom bearing is held on with an Allen screw, use some low strength Loctite to keep you from breaking your head phones. LOL The low strength Lactate should be strong enough to hold the screw in place during routing, but let you remove it when necessary. Very nice desk.

[@jamesr5106]

Not seeing the temper get lost I was going tell you that I would teach you the correct way to lose your temper but then you showed the head phones. Well done hulk smash. Also, sorry about the mess up. I know how it feels in a daily basis.

[@thejoshthat]

substantial

[@ChrisHornberger]

Man, that sucks about the trim bit. I'd have been tempted to just forego the through-tenon model after that; call it an omen, or something. Or just do round or square throughs, though they'd not blend as well with the overall aesthetic. Nice job on the recovery.

[@chemcody5119]

I'm glad that I'm not the only one who has broken something in anger.

[@cruces36]

Everyone has the right to be angry sometime! 🖖🏻

[@craighansen3031]

Substantial

[@Zeppelinfool]

That heaping of the epoxy is known as a “meniscus”. You can thank titration experiments in my intro chem for that tidbit. 👍

[@joeobrien196]

Make a stop for the router plate just in case. When dealing with bottom bearings you can’t see what is going on out of sight.

[@tomim7187]

I try to throw only heavy steel tools myself. Nothing fragile... usually. 😁

[@Hagg506]

I've had projects where I swore the whole thing was possessed by demons.....nothing goes right. My wife likes to poke her head into my shop and say "everything ok?".....after she hears the profanity.

[@nigelanscombe8658]

I guess if you still wanted to use the Curly Oak you could resaw a thin veneer from it and perhaps figure out a way to inlay it into the front surface of the drawer.

[@nevermindthebull0cks]

Made some curved cauls out of 2x4. They have been very handy ( and cheap) There is a vid on youtube on how to make them very easily on a jointer.

[@BruceAUlrich]

Interesting that the top is doing a decent amount of the structure holding on this piece. I know the feeling with the headphones! Sorry that happened...so frustrating!

[@woodwhisperer]

Thanks Bruce!

[@jonh4301]

I've been known to throw a tool or two. A lot of work ruined is a strong trigger!

[@kaazz6734]

My hubs sent me this video to show me the ocarina on your wall ! (Is there a vid of you making that) My daughter wants me to make her one! I watched the entire video then asked him what did he want me to see! Mortises make me crazy, I couldn't imagine doing a slanted one in my fledgling woodworking mingling! HA HA

[@woodwhisperer]

www.stlocarina.com/

[@totallynottrademarked5279]

This is why I keep an Allen key with the bits and check it every single time before using it.

[@woodwhisperer]

Unfortunately this wasn’t that kind of bit.

[@totallynottrademarked5279]

@@woodwhisperer Super weird for them to not give you a way to tighten down the bearing assembly. Good to know.

[@woodwhisperer]

Yeah, real bad design....

[@hazembata]

Drill press - how do you like the Powermatic? Thinking of getting one. Also considering the Nova.

[@chris_dietz]

I have also destroyed a pair of 3m headphones, also the result of a router mishap. They are unfortunately just so available that they’re off your head and out of your hand before you have time to think.

[@noquedaniuno]

Sad headphones? More like death headphones 🤣 sometimes it's better to "use your words" as they say 😬 but I totally understand

[@fredventrone3379]

Marc, So I carefully laid out my the joints (first Domino build) on my desk legs, marked them all so I knew which one went where and marked the aprons to know which one to connect to which leg ... I even put my four legs together right before the glue up verifying my triangle and the layout. However, I neglected to mark which apron should connect to which side. It seemed so obvious. Now I've glued the side aprons to what should have been the long apron locations. My legs are ~3 1/2" x 1.5" with a taper on the wide side down to about 1 1/4". Should I call this a design change or fix it? I'm already behind in the build and am leaning toward the design change, but wondered if you or anyone else had some feedback? Btw, always love your stuff all the way back from your early days. And really appreciate this desk series as it popped up just as I was starting my build. Your teaching ability as well as your craftsmanship has always been impeccable. Keep up the great work!

[@woodwhisperer]

Thanks man. If you have a flush trim saw, you can saw the apron off, clean up the end with a light cut and trim the other apron to match. Then re-cut your Dominos and try again.

[@fredventrone3379]

@@woodwhisperer Thanks Marc. I hadn't thought about the flush trim saw. I was thinking the bandsaw which would be challenging to guide.

[@fredventrone3379]

The Wood Whisperer Marc, well a design change wasn’t an option. Short apron side was now longer than the top, so on to fixing it. The flush trim saw idea was perfect. I really thought it would take forever to cut through with that saw, but it went very smoothly. Just had to square up the aprons and flush up the legs, the re-cut the dominos, which went surprisingly well. Everything came out well and got the finish done yesterday. Time to install and wait for the finish to cure. Thanks again Marc. I really appreciate learning how to deal with mistakes.

[@twobitwoodworker]

I had a similar experience with a guide bushing on a router. Somehow I unscrewed it while making a cut. I think the workpiece ended up being fine but I had to throw my pants out.

[@adm1nspotter]

I had a guide bearing explode on me not too long ago. It was an inexpensive bit, but I'm having a hard time trusting any of them now.

[@reforzar]

Congrats on 666k subs!

[@woodwhisperer]

🤘🏻

[@johnvanderhoof1248]

Ah man, so sorry the show piece got messed up. Me, I wouldn't have trusted myself to use a router. I would have drilled out the waste. Still Marc, beautiful workmanship.

[@jamesbrunk9817]

What grit of CBN wheels do you use?

[@padoco73]

Marc, I'm curious about the templates you chose to use. You have a good deal more experience and skill than I do, so I'm really interested in your input. When working on such tiny areas where I need to match so precisely, my usual recourse is to make a template for the base, rather than a follow bearing. It's been my experience that even good bits flex when they get that small, and having something that follows the base instead tends to give me more precision. Is this something you considered, or is there a reason you can think of it just wouldn't have worked?

[@woodwhisperer]

Well there’s always multiple ways to accomplish something. From my experience, if my template is an accurate representation of the mortises I want, a quality flush trim bit will faithfully reproduce it. And you can see my results here: no evidence of but flexing. It might be that you’re applying too much pressure or removing too much material at once if you’re experiencing significant flex. Using guide bushings and larger holes in the template is definitely a viable way to go and it’s a method I also use when making templates. But it was more trouble than it was worth in this situation so I kept it simple.

[@RoborobsComputers]

It you have one, could you also use a dovetail chisel to clean out the mortises? Or would it no be an acute enough angle?

[@woodwhisperer]

A dovetail chisel would most likely work.

[@benelbert4764]

I am surprised you don't have a set of dovetail chisels.. They have a beveled edge.

[@keithtate3298]

When will we see Part 4 of this project build? Or is it already available?

[@Doughboy1941]

Maybe layout your mortises on both sides so you can see if you bit stats to go off track.

[@JimTom.]

would love to see footage of you losing your temper, uncensored. A lot of people include them in the video, bloopers too 😆

[@woodwhisperer]

I put it in the Members area.

[@themaconeau]

Time for a new pair anyways 😂 How well did said headphones perform before their unfortunate demise? 🤔

[@woodwhisperer]

Rock solid. I've had the same pair for years and never had an issue with them.

[@kevinrich4637]

You really like card scrapers. How long do they usually last? Depending on the wood of course....thank you.

[@woodwhisperer]

Hard to estimate in a meaningful way. Depends on how much you use it and the quality of the hook. I usually sharpen mine up every 2-3 projects and touch up before any big scraping session.

[@tylerkehoe2061]

Is the router outrigger at 9:30 the same piece used with the Festool guide rails, or a different accessory?

[@woodwhisperer]

Same one.

[@nscr2]

At 11:46 the leg moved when you secured the top, do you think it was “squaring the base/legs” or conforming to the top?

[@woodwhisperer]

The top is flat, and the base is flexing under the weight of the legs because of the absence of a front apron. The screws are just pulling everything in.

[@nscr2]

Thanks for the reply Marc

[@marshallmurrell4583]

I've been known to throw a ruined work piece across the shop.

[@robertharris8106]

I usually swear copiously.....then enjoy watching it burn on the fire.....the added benefit of this is that there is no evidence 😉

[@inspectr1949]

Marc when you say 4/4 do mean S2S dimensions or in the rough? Just bough some 4/4 quarter sawn white oak at 12% moisture content that measured 1 1/8" to 1 1/4" rough cut. Agree once it gets down to 3/4" its too thin.

[@woodwhisperer]

When I say 4/4 I'm referring to what my vendor sells as 4/4, which is usually something like S3S. So it's just a bit over 3/4" in thickness before I ever start the milling process. True 4/4 rough should be about 1" in thickness, but that's not something I have access to. So I have to go to 5/4 if I want to have a decent thickness on a large top.

[@inspectr1949]

@@woodwhisperer Thanks Marc in the woodworking world 4/4 , 5/4 , 6/4, 8/4 and so forth is largely misunderstood.

[@robsandstrom9854]

Sorry about the incident. Didn't see a link to the headphones on amazon. Did I miss it.

[@martyn1678]

i marc could i ask those headphones you smashed...... purformance wise ( before you smashed them) did you rate them were they a good buy? i only ask as i am thinking of buying a pair. thanks

[@woodwhisperer]

Yup. Great Bluetooth headphones.

[@martyn1678]

@@woodwhisperer iam very tempted

[@efenili]

Anyone whose worked with a flush trim bit and template knows the feeling of slipping out of the intended area for a variety of reasons. Usually I can only blame myself though, haha

[@BillSmithem]

What an insane amount of effort to display that router in the video. Could have done the job ten times with a drill and a chisel.

[@woodwhisperer]

Sure, but then you’d have nothing to gripe about Bill. 😊 Seriously though, I’d love to see pictures of your 10 perfect parallelogram through mortise and tenon joints done in the time it took me to do one set. Send me closeups too. I’ll be waiting.

[@BillSmithem]

@@woodwhisperer Seriously? You did everything exactly the same as you would have without the router except you made a jig to enlarge the holes a little bit with the router. The perfect parallelograms still depended on proper layout and your skill with the chisel. (and yes, I was exaggerating, but there's no way that was faster or better with the router)

[@woodwhisperer]

Not exactly. In my case, the template was not only a guide for the router bit but also a guide for the chisel to define the outline. That takes a lot of pressure off knowing that you just need to work back to the line. Also, having the mortise walls established by the router bit means the final chisel strokes can be done by referencing from the existing mortise wall. I'm not saying that it cant be done by hand because obviously it can. But doing it with power tools offers a lot of advantages and makes like a lot easier when making the tenons. It's Ok that you'd do it differently. Let's celebrate having different approaches instead of pushing the "my way is better? mentality.

[@tundrawhisperer4821]

How do you sharpen your chisels, yourself or send them out? Thx

[@woodwhisperer]

I sharpen them myself.

[@aapoapina7390]

Use your thumb guys! 👍

[@enderwiggin2856]

I wonder if hand tools would have been less risky and saved a pair of headphones? Sneaking up on a perfect fit with files and rasps...just a thought...

[@woodwhisperer]

Depends on the hands wielding the tools. :)

[@enderwiggin2856]

@@woodwhisperer fair enough sir. Well done tho.

[@guitarchitectural]

I was gonna timestamp the freakout but I guess you edited it out. :( Does that make this video title count as clickbait? Either way I think we've all been there! I've had a few router mistakes and fences move and hoo boy does it make the blood boil. Maybe next time consider adding an outtake like Drew Fisher does :D

[@Detroit_Q]

Yes it does

[@donaldguilbault7433]

All right there Jeff Bezos, using Sipo dominos for alignment.

[@JustinLCecil]

"I like a substantial thiccness" - Marc Same. Same.

[@tundrawhisperer4821]

At 10:24, what drill stop is that? Thx

[@woodwhisperer]

amzn.to/2F5Km4P

[@davecurda2350]

Sorry to see the death of your headphones but they lived a good life.🤣

[@scottroy6195]

Just watched your infomercial from 9 years ago for the gripper. Looks like you don't use it anymore.

[@woodwhisperer]

I use it for cuts when a regular push stick isn’t safe enough. Thin rips and odd shapes.

[@scottroy6195]

@@woodwhisperer wow wasn't expecting a reply. Thanks so much. Some one accused me of not being a 'real' woodworker because I was considering buying one rather than make my own. Cheers

[@woodwhisperer]

I generally ignore advice from anyone using the term “real woodworker.” Buy what you want, use what makes you happy, and eff anyone that has a problem with it. 😊👍

[@nailbender6884]

www.zoro.com/zoro-select-e-style-ring-asst-255-pc-12-szs-rce1287stpa/i/G2650155/ Marc, I've run into similar issues with my router bits. I keep a kit similar to this for just such occasions. Another option is "snap rings", depending on the style of router bit.

[@markduggan3451]

I think I would have thrown the headphones a lot further.

[@randolphscudder2372]

Got a new idea for a project for you, wooden headphones made out of Bubinga.

[@WobblycogsUk]

Did you know you have a doppelganger on KZbin kzbin.info either that or you're also a doctor. Great build though, not sure I'll ever have the confidence to take on a project like that.

[@ceeg93]

couldve put it upside down in a router table and see the bearing

[@sgsax]

Who among us hasn't thrown something across the shop (or yard) in frustration?

[@stevemcentyre1570]

Just use your darn scroll saw and spare the chisel hysteryonics.

[@woodwhisperer]

Ummm no thanks. I wouldn't get good results with a scroll saw but you can do whatever you like in your shop. And it's spelled "histrionics" :)

[@WalterRiggs]

Amazon Basics makes chisels... TIL

[@DWillerup]

Buddy at 2:06? Why the whatfor?

[@woodwhisperer]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGPMgoJ5i6d0hbM "Twirly Swirly"