Castle Super Beast Clips: Game Of Thrones: Startwork

[@5headedragon]

The fact that an apocalyptic event that has been building up for thousands of years and for the entirety of the show boils down to a debuff for daenerys’ army is infuriating.

[@RazielBR]

"The war of the dead is more important than the Kings Landing shenanigans" WAR OF THE DEAD HAPPENS "Now we can finally focus on what's important... Kings Landing shenanigans"

[@iller3]

Wouldn't that be hilarious if it was all just a behind the scenes conspiracy to fit better with the Mobile Game?

[@EkkieEkk]

I read a comment that had me dying "After 7 seasons and 10 years of buildup, the night king marched down to winterfell and killed theon greyjoy. Great show!"

[@Tona-Omar]

@@EkkieEkk I saw that comment too. It's funny at first but then when you realize how true it is..you just stare at the comment for a good minute

[@andresgabrielrogelcortes8947]

@@RazielBR What debuff tho? her shit it still huge for some reason, it was literally nothing

[@NickMK]

The analogy of grey damage getting cashed in by major plot points failing is my favourite thing

[@Ultimaniacx4]

Woolie always comes up with the best real life video game mechanics.

[@billvolk4236]

Season 8 has also had a lot of characters suffering physical grey damage. If it's a named character and it doesn't insta-gib them, they're just fine next scene. Euron thinks he killed Jaime but he did nothing but grey damage. At Winterfell some zombie stabs the Hound in pretty much the same way that Ned got stabbed in season 1, but fuck it, he's fine. I for real thought they were going to carve him into pieces right there, but nope, grey damage.

[@pkerch00b1]

I can't believe it man, shits falling apart in just a couple of hours. Woolie isn't exaggerating, this IS a movie that decided to shit itself 70 hours in!

[@josemarques2304]

It shat itself last season but it's been farting for a while.

[@FOXHOUND-wv5lk]

They shit the bed and now they have to lay in it

[@blitzkriegdragon013]

It's been shitting itself since season 5.

[@edwardramasamadesiderio471]

Sometimes, it feels good not to have involved yourself in something.

[@whatsuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu]

You should still watch it at some point series has some of th best cgarcters an acting iv ever seen it only begins to stumble a little around season 5 and the faceplant has happened recently but unless they completey fuck the ending up i would give it a shot

[@shenanigans8353]

Yeah I've been humming and hawing thinking maybe I should finally be getting around to watching it and now I don't feel so bad

[@CheetahsArePrettyCool]

I read the books & have been popping into the show occasionally, and it's still like. I'm glad I read them but I also absolutely understand people that are glad they didn't it's similar to that feeling of being glad you grew up with like, Naruto or Inuyasha, while also understanding people with zero interest in getting into them because they don't want to dig the story out from under the filler and/or frustrating habits the author has

[@bhelish]

Always consume media when its finished

[@CheetahsArePrettyCool]

I hope this isn't rude but I wanted to add another comment that isn't about filler or weird writing habits, because I kept thinking about it & realized ANOTHER frustrating aspect that may be good to know so the fifth book came out in 2011, and the gap from that up to now has been the longest time between any books in the series-- I've honestly accepted that GRRM is probably burnt out on the series & it won't be finished the show adaptation may wind up being the only full version of the story, and it's glossed over or removed several of my favorite moments in the books so odds are good this'll end with the worst outcome, where I'm both gonna fucking die mad that they didn't adapt Lady Stoneheart (an undead version of a major character that's taking revenge on every motherfucker that wronged her, it's the best) AND where it's gonna get one ending that feels rushed and poorly planned, so I listened to fucking Roy Dotrice narrate multiple sex scenes in the audiobooks FOR WHAT

[@leoknightrx7953]

"We don't make art, we make garbage". - Pat 2019

[@Zantetsu13]

Pat - 2018 Pat - 2017 Pat - 2016

[@Egalia_1]

As someone who has never read the books or even seen the show. Watching the fire from afar is downright hilarious. I’ve watched 5 different “why the battle of winterfell was bad” videos and just loving the insanity. I feel bad for invested fans and I hope they at least get a decent ending

[@SMK451]

According to the leaks, that ain't going to happen.

[@blitzkriegdragon013]

Hopefully Martin's ending will be better. That's pretty much all the fans have now. Side note: book and show are tell completely different stories now.

[@HenriqueGdeC]

[Righteous Monty Python and the Holy Grail-like voice] We should build a wall, a castle, fortify our defenses...and fight right outside of them.

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

cbb88christian yeah....we’re not getting one....

[@blitzkriegdragon013]

@@brian.jrmontoya3227 Books are literally our last hope. I'm calling bullshit on Martin saying that they're "basically the same". Those stories are way too different at this point to have the same endings.

[@alldayagain]

The joy of Palpatine Pat watching Wooly Vader complete his training is palpable LOL

[@thisisaformality]

This was my favorite podcast segment in the history of Castle Superbeast. YES WOOLIE TELL THEM THEY ARE STUPID! THEY ARE STUPID AND ITS OKAY TO SAY IT!

[@JackSilver1410]

It is a tremendous service. If nobody smacks a fucking idiot and tells them they're being a fucking idiot, then that fucking idiot will start thinking that they know everything and are genius beyond reckoning.

[@en4135]

It really feels like a case of a rushed ending due to severe time constraints, but then the showrunners said HBO was totally down to fund more episodes and you lose the ability to understand why it's fallen apart so hard.

[@No_Doe]

I was waiting for this segment to be clipped just so I could say how goddamn right you are Woolie.

[@MrRacoony]

Pat losing his shit over the last two episodes of Twin Peaks and checking the clock as the last 30 minutes play out might be my favorite mental image of all time lol. It’s not that I don’t agree with him, but unlike D&D and BSG, Lynch knew exactly what he was doing. In his mind, “wasting time” like that would make you feel a sense of anxiety, and with him, it’s all about trying to make you feel how the characters themselves feel when all this crazy, sometimes totally incomprehensible shit is happening.

[@Umberman]

"Disappointment years in the making" Story of my life, Pat

[@EggBastion]

"Call me dumb, but what does *D&D* mean in regards to Game of Thrones?" "David and Dan, the guys who make the show" "Dan Weiss and David Benioff"

[@benhramiak8781]

I almost thought it was the tabletop game when I first heard it

[@garrettcarter5622]

But hey, as long as they got their Zombie Polar Bear, right?

[@Agent_Cobalt]

I can’t believe they keep doing that same thing

[@Tona-Omar]

gODdAMnIT wE WaNT A zOmBiE POlaR beAR

[@SivTheScribe]

Detroit Become Human has an android polar bear.

[@aurora9166]

I very much appreciate these being in a playlist. I needed to revisit to lick old wounds.

[@SteelBallRun1890]

What really sucks is that if GRRM finishes the book somehow, and a reboot happens to FMA: Brotherhood the whole thing. Even if you hated the show, you have to admit that some of these are perfect casting and whether you disliked how the show went from the start or not, characters like Tywin or Joffrey or Oberyn or Cersei or Robert, were played amazingly by their actors. You know they will be recasted, and pale in comparison to their performance.

[@JapanFreak2595]

Or they could animate it. Chances are the VA’s wouldn’t be as good maybe, but you have more potential to get someone whose voice fits.

[@yeetwizard2663]

He'll never end the series. Georgie boy wrote himself into a hole where his series has no clear ending. Like what plot line do you end on? Jon/winter? The iron throne? Danny? He expanded it way too far narratively, and would have to pull the biggest ass pull in history to close all plot lines.

[@JapanFreak2595]

Yeet Wizard pretty sure it’ll be no one and the structure of Westeros’ feudal system will collapse into a new world of sorts.

[@yeetwizard2663]

@@JapanFreak2595 The way theyll probably tie up jon and the iron throne in the show is having him take it and blow it up, making it all individual kingdoms again. Problem is danny and essos still exists

[@TEL9021]

Not necessarily, given enough time we could get a Star Trek TNG equivalent

[@josephmartinez5751]

It's so weird hearing D&D and not think dungeons and dragons

[@patrickwilde5827]

Just like when some says DM for direct message. My brain auto completes to Dungeon Master

[@kilroy6806]

I've never heard anyone else mention this but one of the reasons I always had a hard time getting into GoT/IceandFire is because of all the DnD-isms that exist in it: one of the main characters being called "The mother of dragons", another main character straight up being a Ranger right down to the pet direwolf, others in the books I won't spoil. It was really jarring to me.

[@Porterhaus94]

Or Discussion & Debate

[@OriginalDad]

@@kilroy6806 Those are just fantasy tropes that aren't specific to only D&D.

[@kilroy6806]

@@OriginalDad not really, forexample Mother of Dragons is very specific to Tiamat

[@wumbojet]

I love the current podcast and still won't miss a single episode, but i kind of miss this vibe right here. No matter how good their chemistry is, there's no way to emulate a face to face conversation in the same room. Obviously this would be almost impossible with them living on opposite sides of the continent but IF they do an "in person special" of some sort in the future it would be the absolute best thing ever.

[@malikoniousjoe]

Same man. It’s why I still watch the old channel religiously, the vibe of 2-4 chuckle fucks in a small apartment room recording games is peak LPing. I think streaming is too cluttered and messy, and having everyone separate just lacks the same energy that you feel when you’re in a room with people you like.

[@Deathbytroll]

The problem with the casual vs hardcore argument is twofold One: GoT is like lost in that in encouraged speculation as to it's plot direction then demands you turn your brain off and ride the emotional high when it breaks the plot or dips in quality to get us there. B) when media turns to write towards a casual audience it usually does so at the expense of the invest audience that made it popular. In passive media this usually means spectacle over substance and in active media it means lower quality or "streamlined" mechanics to open up access, usually coming along with other bad ideas casuals will tolerate. So, in summation, how you enjoy a product can absolutely have wider ramifications on the future.

[@In-The-Zone]

Crazy Talk is now so strong that if you repeatably tell Pat something the opposite will happen in his favor.

[@aaronwilson5805]

Is this Crazy Talk Act 2?

[@jameswestern3931]

@@aaronwilson5805 Act 1 was the fact that everything he says is lies or he is wrong (This is without alterations got he world the stand just controls his mind so he can't say any truths or access any true knowledge), Act 2 is when he is able to speak freely but CT will alter time and space itself to make pat eat shit (look at that moment in The evil within and Sonic mania for proof)...this would be Act 3

[@zetrixsalinas409]

@@jameswestern3931 I COMPLETELY forgot about evil within

[@zetrixsalinas409]

@@jameswestern3931 can we call act 3 "Crazy Talk Act 3 Fuck Pat"

[@jeshuavega4846]

The red ones go faster

[@Saramusvasque2838]

I haven't seen endgame, but how collaborative it was reminds me of how Kojima, for Snakeeater, had everyone offer a suggestion to put in the game, which resulted in the most mechanically deep games I've ever seen.

[@Saramusvasque2838]

Also, last jedi is a FANTASTIC star wars movie, I dont know why u all be like this.

[@WTFisTingispingis]

Wait, is there a literal coffee cup in the scene? That's _hilarious._

[@ghostfear2011]

Sugewin A Starbuck’s cup.

[@ABonafideSkeleton]

Yep, an actual, honest to god Starbucks cup, plastic lid and all.

[@RhysClark97]

One continuity error and people's unrealistic expectations of season 8 episode 3 and suddenly "game of thrones is garbage now" the show is amazingly directed and shot and the writing is above alot of good shows, yes it has dumb shit like some of season 7 but I swear woolie is overreacting

[@Kiyokoghurt]

@@RhysClark97 I mean when the writers says danaerys forgot that the Iron fleet existed just so her second dragon would die, that's pretty terrible... Along with the entire shitshow of winterfell

[@felicia9567]

When will Elmo help them win?

[@bladedoodle]

Crazy Talk spotted, "Nothing'll top Lost!"

[@king_big_pp]

At this point, I'm rooting for Game of Thrones to be as *terrible* as it can possibly be. If I can't get a good ending, give me the fucking worst.

[@YeTheGOATNoCap]

I'm hoping for a boom mic in the shot.

[@daysand123]

Two episodes to go and without any context I'll fucking bet my dick and a hamburger itll be a better ending than "The island was purgatory all along and the journey was the flashbacks you had along the Naruto."

[@Lonequacker]

@@daysand123 But the island wasn't purgatory. For some reason so many people still think "they were dead the whole time" when that was just the flash moments in the final season. The events of the show happened and they were alive. People seem to blow Lost's finale being terrible way out of proportion.

[@FOBIsMyNickName]

You know what I hate the most is when writers/directors get called out for having a shitty ending and they respond with “well it’s not about the destination but the journey.” It’s basically the same as being given a nice, well wrapped gift for your birthday and you’re just super excited to see what’s inside, so you open it up to only find a turd. Then you turn to the person and ask “why did you give me a turd?” And their response is “well I’d spent all my money on the wrapping paper.”

[@Rasamune]

17:00 You either die a Mission Hill, or live long enough to see yourself become The Simpsons

[@danganronper6278]

Pat talking about Battlestar Galatica reminds me of Philbert: the fictional show in Bojack Horseman where the author kept writing a mystery and plot twists, but has no idea what's the answer at the end of the show.

[@brandiboo1231]

i assume it would have been fairly easy to cg the coffee cup out if they cared enough. reminds me of that blurb that it would have been “too expensive” for jon to say goodbye to ghost properly. more like they just didnt care enough to do it 🤷‍♀️

[@kimsonrobinson3171]

THEY COULD HAVE JUST ZOOMED THE IMAGE!!!

[@Ilovevidgames123]

This clip is hilarious given last night's catastrophe.

[@FutBoy281]

Season 1-4 are gold GoT started falling apart with 5-7, but there were still good parts Season 8 is about closure, something I don't think GRRM would give 100% of

[@Ialliac]

GRRM has the Berserk approach to endings.. 'it can't have a bad ending, if it doesn't have an ending'. -Matt McMuscles once

[@TheCtp96]

The shows was in a lose lose situation were they rush and finish the king's landing storyline first and people get angry and disappointed or they finish the white Walkers storyline first and people get angry and disappointed they decided to get rid of the zombies first which has always been a side plot in this show.

[@BeePuncher]

I only watched the show through clips on KZbin and was still mad. Mostly the way NK went out and took any lore he had left with him.

[@HoundedDog]

28:50 That silence was beautiful.

[@theramblinmahoney2316]

Get on the Train! Get on the Hate Train! Get on the Train, Train! Get on the Train!

[@LabTech41]

I will, if it's that Metal Train from 'Tormentum'.

[@Comkill117]

Hop on the spirit tracks kids.

[@francescolombardi3438]

I'M GOIN OFF THE RAILS ON A HATEFUL TRAIN

[@yojimmybob]

You guys are super right. It's every criticism I had of the show.

[@pathfindersavant3988]

As someone who doesn't even watch GoT, between this podcast convo, Shadiversity ripping the battle a new one, and PSAsitch criticising it, I'm supremely entertained. This is an interesting experience to see as an outsider looking in

[@DrFumbles01]

It's honestly just depressing to me. To watch something that so many people enjoyed and built a community around is just set ablaze, and you can only watch and listen to the tormented screams coming from within the burning building. I've been there, but never before has it ever happened to such an extent. This is like the 9/11 of Fandom disasters, and a reminder that anything you love could crumble instantly. RIP GoT fandom.

[@DrFumbles01]

@Unstoppable Plays! We were both in that fire, my friend.

[@Comkill117]

Startwork is a strong way to describe what you’re telling me. Also, the turn your brain off part is basically just BD Joe going “You’re alright, get in!” in Crazy Taxi.

[@33link333]

What you said around 53:35 reminded me of a conversation i had with my sister about Mario Kart 64, where the final verdict was "that game was not actually all that good, but I love it to hell anyway" and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

[@shotguncrucifix]

The controls are so tight.

[@AwesomeCornSauce]

*Always Sunny theme plays* This Episode Wasn't Directed.

[@arn1345]

"The Gang Loses the Script"

[@Birmanncat]

How to describe bad script writing in fighting game terms.

[@billvolk4236]

Those making-of videos that autoplay after the episode are like finishers. If you gave something weird in that episode the benefit of the doubt, prepare to have D&D cash the fuck out of that grey damage by explaining exactly what they were thinking, and it's infinitely dumber than you could have ever imagined.

[@MrNinjaBurger]

Super Beast mentions Mauler. What a time to be alive.

[@dizzydoom4230]

Hear hear, brother.

[@RanMouri82]

Short ginger good.

[@tussletoes]

The mouse KNOWS the boys are on their media rants. It knows this is a safe time to pillage

[@gavinsemple3448]

Can we talk about how woolie is actin like raiden with shinnoks amulet, is this the origin of dark woolie?

[@kilroy6806]

can anyone confirm that woolie changed his haircut to look like the villian from black panther? Some else mentioned it but I couldn't tell if it was a joke or not.

[@gavinsemple3448]

Woolie goes full heel turn, new lore confirmed

[@WTFisTingispingis]

@@kilroy6806 That would look _amazing._

[@MieldExaminLive]

As a guy having not seen a single episode until this final season and only learning the story elements from memes, I can say, I have no idea what any of the characters story arcs are, but I'm feeling like if I did know, I'd hate this season.

[@AreWeLearningYet77]

Accurate. Terribly, horribly accurate.

[@MieldExaminLive]

@@AreWeLearningYet77 Could you specify what? I'm curious.

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

Michael Eldridge oh you would man, you’d fucking hate this season

[@iller3]

Same!

[@rodney2x48]

You have no idea, man. I stopped after season 5, caught up a bit later I preparation for this new season, and I’m watching season 8. Holy shit do I hate it. They REALLY botched it. Straight up RUINED it.

[@KeroKaminaX]

don't let this distract you from woolie's wrong opinion of sam reimi spider-man 2

[@Dirtyboots3strikes]

Probably the only thing that'll irk me. Didn't listen to CBS 16 because I ain't gonna go through another Kanji/Naoto discussion fiasco. I might not have a problem with the Star Wars rant if it is about the current Disney sequels. Have absolutely no knowledge of GoT at all, so it'll just fly over my head.

[@EggBastion]

Don't worry.

[@MegaRazor619]

@@Dirtyboots3strikes what are you talking about. Kanji Is gay and naoto is trans, get over it. /s

[@Zangelin]

Woolie thinks Gurren Lagan is a narrative Masterpiece. never forget this.

[@StellaStarfall]

Zangelin It’s a narrative masterpiece in the same way the Big Lebowski is.

[@angrynapolean3820]

Woolie has never been more wrong and so right in the podcast. He's spot on about Game of Thrones and he's dead wrong about Sam Raimi Spider-Man and Shazam.

[@blitzkriegdragon013]

He's also wrong about Steel Ball Run. Not relevant but I hate how hard he rides that part's dick

[@pedrosena78]

Those movies suck, though. I loved them when I was a kid and watching them now makes me depressed.

[@pedrosena78]

Also, he cant be wrong if it's his taste.

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

P. S. Yeeesh that’s some shit taste.

[@angrybrony]

man, can you just imagine if star wars tried to make a new trilogy and had no idea were it was going? ....wouldn't just be the dumbest thing? good thing that'll never happen.

[@Comkill117]

The ending of Rogue One’s fine with the breathing shit because Vader does that all the time. It’s an intimidation tactic. Hell he does it in Empire multiple times.

[@P0rk_Sinigang]

I'm really surprised that the chat was upset with Woolie calling GoT shit now.

[@yukionnaslayer1]

Now that we got all this nerd shit out of the way we can final talk about something that actually matters how awesome is the act 2 robotnik music in sonic 3 and knuckles

[@WhyDoWeNeedToHaveHandles]

now we're fuckin talking

[@francescolombardi3438]

personally, i'm a fan of the Big Arms bgm.

[@jittaijin]

Me: "Oooohhh, so THAT's why it's Startwork..." //snapped to the like button.

[@fireandthunder9862]

In retrospect, whoever chimed in and decided Hawkeye should live instead of Black Widow probably fucked up her movie and now we have the weird universe where Clint went rogue, started murdering people in droves and doesn't seem to be facing any consequences.

[@Parluxgrounds]

Holy shit woolie is so on point on the "save ned at the last second" changed tv

[@FloyDJode]

Watching T.V. series while still in development is the same as pre-ordering videogames.

[@SuperUnhappyman]

I binged GOT with some friends and im just here checking out the salt cause it is warranted

[@The5lacker]

41:12 I don't know if I'd call "Mauler" the deepest dive as much as "The longest swim." He has a bad habit of spending an extraordinary amount of time saying fuck all. Repeatedly.

[@SideswipePrime606]

I'm 100% with Pat on being happy, and feeling justified in not giving in to the peer pressure watching Game of Thrones. Same goes for The Walking Dead and Attack on Titan, for me personally.

[@sarafandumah4572]

Despite the ending. Those shows gave many years of good entertainment. You knew with the walking dead were the show was going when they fired a certain somebody. Out of nowhere. For what seems like a personal thing.

[@GreedAndSelfishness]

Twin Peaks Season 3 is definately not for everyone. Its full on Lynch. If you havent seen Lynch films( Inland empire, Lost Highway, Mulholland drive) youre in for a real ride that you most likely cant handle.

[@keyanarmstead3094]

Y’know after taking a moment to really sit down and comb through all of these incredibly baffling creative decisions that even had the actors themselves raising their eyebrows, any real positive thoughts I’ve had about Season 8 have significantly diminished. Woolie is right. GoT really did turn into the Anti-Endgame.

[@HarshNerf]

Imagine if thanos kneecapped himself and nebula then proceeded to snap the universe away out of random loyalty to her step father.thats where got is right now,blood is Paramount,motivations mean nothing

[@veefrog]

Whose ready for Game of Thrones: Brotherhood?

[@Ialliac]

What different source material would it be based on? The finished series? Oh sweet, summer child...

[@samzilla567]

Remember that time Catelyn Stark become a necromancer called Lady Stoneheart and went on a revenge spree? Oh yeah that's right, the show completely ignores that. There's plenty of material from the books that were removed or forgot about. If GRRM actually finished the next two books, they'll be radically different then what we've seen on the show.

[@Ialliac]

@@samzilla567 Do you remember "The Soiled Knight," Victorion, and Alayne...not everything penned is gold

[@ghostfear2011]

MauLer did a very good episode breakdown of it. Basically it completely invalidates the entire premise of the show and the entire character arc of Jon Snow is also ruined as well. They also sacrificed all logic in exchange for cool visuals that you can barely see because 95% of the entire episode is dark.

[@RenovatedLee]

Seconded, mauler is great. Even if his content is absurdly long.

[@kokichibestboi]

in which woolie actually transforms into pat as part of his master plan to become immortal

[@isaiahcolbert19]

Does Woolie not remember the Hulk/Black Widow "conversation"?

[@Famygdala]

I try to but all I can recall is that "gif".

[@KingM1023]

I've watched MauLer's response to Hbomberguy video more times than Matthewmatosis' Ds2 video. A shame hBomberguy blew him off and barely watched 10 mins of it

[@blitzkriegdragon013]

Mauler is one of the most pretentious KZbinr's out there and I'm surprised anybody can listen to him for more than 5 minutes. JackSaint has a great video about him and why he's so fucking boring and WRONG when it comes to film critique in general. I really wish people would stop promoting him. He's everything wrong with film criticism. On the level of cinemasins.

[@Crade1]

@@blitzkriegdragon013 Its very telling that you are unable to actually bring forth these points yourself, instead of having to direct people to some other persons video. I am surprised people can stand to watch 5 minutes of hbombercucks content. If you think MauLer is being pretentious, how can you even stomach one second of bombers content? Dude is the epitome of pretentious, he even admits so in one of his videos, when he says he talks in a specific way to give his points more weight. You said somewhere else bomber guy seems more sincere, when reality proves literally the opposite. MauLer talks the same way in his videos as he does in his streams, and he makes actual points, while bomberman has to hide behind weasel words and rhetoric and talk in an exaggerated manner so he gets taken seriously. Yet people like you exist.. So hey I guess there are some things we just will never understand.

[@blitzkriegdragon013]

@@Crade1 I pointed at another video because he went into a deeper analysis then I ever could through a fucking comment. Yeah Bomber speaks differently. I also speak differently when I write an essay vs when I talk to my friends. It's not uncommon. Did you watch his Transformers review? That was the most sincere critique of a film I've watched in awhile. It was an interesting take on the film, that many other youtubers never had. Talking about how Unicron is a symbol of cosmic horror that becomes more relatable as one gets older. Here is the final fucking point, Bomber guy admits that he isn't the only voice. That there is room for dissent and disagreement. That it's okay to have a different opinion because there's more than one way to look at a film. Mauler doesn't. Mauler reviews film from the most perspective, and believes that's the only "real" way to reviews movies and TV. I'm sorry but there is nothing more pretentious than that. If you like Mauler, like him. I just find him boring, monotonous, and prone to repeating points and contradicting himself in the same fucking video.

[@blitzkriegdragon013]

@@Wolf_ManJack Honestly, I don't like Mauler because he is pretentious and repetitive and Saint made a video that discussed all my criticisms with him. Mauler has said in his videos that there is an "objective" way to look at things, which states that he doesn't actually view other opinions as valid. If what you say is true, then they're both assholes. But at least Jack makes better videos.

[@tricksterhuaun]

@@Wolf_ManJack I was listening to it while working and let me tell ya. It is great to pass the time.

[@brothermanhyll7794]

Unrelated but I really like Woolie and Pat's color contrast between eachother. It's like the Trailer Park Boys version of those two human magicians in the Castlevania anime. The black mass and the pale abomination.

[@dougdynamo9398]

YO! The guys mentioned MauLer! That's awesome! Pat even mentioned MauLer ass blasting hbomberguy.

[@leavy]

You mean the guy who spent like 5 hours defending dark souls 2 from one single person’s opinion? Yeah, awesome indeed.

[@leavy]

chris campbell yeah it’s a great addon, I can’t recommend it enough if you don’t want random fascist and/or blatantly misogynistic bullshit showing up in your feed (read: Peter molyneaux) because you watch a couple political videos, it’s pretty great

[@cyberninjazero5659]

@@leavy Yes it is excellent to maintain the progressive hugbox. I mean in the old days there were proper gulags to get rid of all the wrongthinkers but you work with the tools you have not with the one you are

[@leavy]

CyberNinjaZero not wanting to read Steven Molyneux spout racist misogynistic bullshit is the same thing as wanting to throw people into political prison? imagine demonizing “progressives” so much you become that deluded

[@a-zfan3229]

One big issue now is that everything is surface level

[@Horatio787]

Nail on the head. Perfect thesis.

[@AnonZeMouse]

"I'm just gonna glaze over it" (56 minutes and 14 seconds left) I know that venting feeling =p

[@sasaki999pro]

But seriously guys, if you havent checked out MauLers channel do it, his tangents are amazing, you can throw it on in the background while you're doing whatever, I listen to him when I'm working all the time

[@blitzkriegdragon013]

How people can enjoy him is beyond me. He's just the long version of cinemasins. Complaining for the sake of complaining (unless it's something he likes), disregarding anything regarding tone or theming, and then getting pissy when people disagree with him. He's everything I hate about film criticism. Pretentious and boring.

[@Crade1]

@@blitzkriegdragon013 Only that he Co stanzly criticizes cinemasins for being shallow and surface level. Methinks he criticized a thing or a creator you liked and ever since then you're on the bias train. Like I said before, somewhere else, I don't understand how anyone could enjoy bomber guy or Jack fucking Saint either.

[@blitzkriegdragon013]

@@Crade1 No, I agree with Mauler on certain things he likes and dislikes. I also don't care if he critiques things I like. If that were the case then I'd hate these guys. My problem with Mauler is that he only critiques films on a technical level. That's the most boring fucking form of film critiques. It says nothing about theming, story, or anything that makes film an art form. It judges film like it's a machine. No room for interesting analysis; just "look at this plot hole. What a dumb movie." I like hbomberguy because he has fun videos on subjects I like. His transformers review was one of the most relatable reviews I ever watched. I enjoy Jack Saint because he analyzes films from various Marxist, Feminist, and racial perspectives. What I like the most about both of them is that they don't take themselves too seriously. They're very tongue and cheek, and there is an acknowledgement that there is more than one way to look at a film. They know how to analyze something critically while not being up their own ass about it. That's why I hate Mauler. He's so far up his own ass, he creates his own echo chamber. No room for different analysis or opinions. Just "plot hole here make bad movie". Unless of course it's a movie he likes.

[@cyberninjazero5659]

Failure of pay off was hinted at the moment they had Tyrions motives for killing Tywin change even though they set up the backstory for it twice

[@FlameHidden]

Context? I have watched the entire series and dont know what you are refering to

[@cyberninjazero5659]

@@FlameHidden Remember the story Tyrion told Shae about the girl he and his brother saved from rape that he married? The one that turned out to be a whore that Jamie hired and Tywin made him watch fuck the entire Gaurd for the insult? She wasn't actually a whore Jamie didn't hire her and she genuinely loved Tyrion. Jamie told this to Tyrion after he freed him in the books that's why Tyrion kills his Father but the show took Jamie's reveal out for no reason eventhough they had the scene where he frees Tyrion and then talks to him making the Build up go to waste

[@cyberninjazero5659]

@@FlameHidden heres a link that goes through it kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXqxiYGBl66Ln5I

[@LE0NSKA]

46:35 GREY LIFE DMG is fucking brilliant lol

[@KungFuFarting]

Been losing writing steam since season 5, but at least the big fight episodes of season 5, 6, and 7 for the most part haven't been disappointing garbage to watch. The Long Night makes season 8 "0 for 1" in big fight episodes.

[@CastlesComments]

I guess things were a little rocky back in 5 but it has really great parts, and then I really enjoyed 6 and wow they really brought it with 7, it was above and beyond everything that had come before! Now 8s super weird and its remixing all the old elements and I cant wait to see what happens next! Oh wait this isnt Jojo? I was talking about Jojo

[@Hillthugsta]

Im glad The Shield never had this problem... Im also glad Into the Badlands doesnt have this problem...

[@johnnychopsocky]

"I've done worse." "Family meeting!" Goddamn The Shield stuck that landing so incredibly hard.

[@tylergregoire1763]

Mauler is the definition of thorough analysis. Very little escapes his cynical gaze. If he says there’s a problem, he’ll prove it in 30 minutes. He is the bane of the general audience. Watch a video of his and you’ll see.

[@aprendizdefegelein]

Watch those 7+ hours EFAP. I love him wolf and rags but goddamn I can't.

[@SergioSource]

and the best is that he owns up when he gets something wrong, and that happens very rarely

[@FOXHOUND-wv5lk]

@@SergioSource but does he tho????

[@EkkieEkk]

He pretty much only examines things at a surface level and his style is obnoxious. You don't have to take the entire story step by step for an analysis, and stopping things every sentence to give your input only serves to diverse yourself from any tone or context.

[@mrrdirty6198]

@@EkkieEkk Explain surface level.

[@elijahnakumura4375]

This is what happened to me with “The Office” not 1 season after Michael Scott leaves and it just shits itself

[@HarshNerf]

It doesn't shit itself,it just doesn't have heart anymore and turns into a skit comedy. I stopped watching one Michael left and just watched it recently and it didn't affect me as much anymore

[@shinluis]

It's almost like the success from the first seasons where they were still shy from diverging from the source material, specially when the red wedding aired, went over D&Ds heads so they felt like they could take more and more creative liberties with the story.

[@skieth9999]

19:49 when Pat has to do an actual double take as his brain catches up with what he just heard

[@talondiaz4148]

46:17 That's an great quote. They need to say that more often when people complain in the chat about them not liking something.

[@FOXHOUND-wv5lk]

Isn't there a moment where a character says something like "If I hadn't been raped by those dudes I wouldn't be a stronger person"???? Fuck that show

[@jamesnhatcher6522]

I am so glad you 2 are back together:)

[@Graysett]

My favorite thing about Mauler's rebuttal is how much stuff HE gets wrong. Not that Bomberguy's rebuttal wasn't ass, I LOVE DS2 and still hated his defense of it, but you can only sit through so many hours of a guy being wrong before it starts to irk you, even if he is doing a good (and ridiculously thorough) job on the whole.

[@blitzkriegdragon013]

Mauler is one of the worst KZbinr's out there, he's so fucking pretentious. At least Bomberguy feels sincere.

[@Crade1]

Imagine believing this.

[@ArchArturo]

Honestly, this season has made me do the unthinkable: to make me think S8 is an OVA of the series.

[@youtubeuser4943]

"RISE...fuckin'...Woolie, RISE"

[@GreedAndSelfishness]

Sopranos is truly a lot more than it looks like at first. Its not just yeeeaah mafia guys doing bad shit. I recently finished watching it( yeah I'm really late to the party) and it was great. None of the episodes felt boring, and it was so clever in many ways. It really surprised me that it was more intelligent than it first let on. Great characters, great scenes and great fucking acting.

[@daysand123]

At 11:40 give or take I totally heard Pat say "Battle Scar Gallactica"

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Funny part and woolie talk about endgame with so much praise, yet behind the scenes reveal that they actually planned less then game of thrones.

[@Dantarn]

Pat and Woolie: *Make an hour long video complaining about GoT* D&D: "If your butts weren't so hurt you'd be more entertained."

[@axelskull]

ep 3 was okay if you just dont think about it, but ep 4 really cements it. atleast its got pretty effects. and the memes are good

[@Kango234]

I have a somewhat similar thing with Pat in terms of waiting until a series is done, but with modern anime. It's not that I've personally had a bad experience but my youtube recommendations are always filled with people talking about the latest season of anime only to then be replaced with "WHAT WENT WRONG!" Just doesn't seem worth taking the plunge especially when I have a huge backlog of older stuff to get to anyways.

[@StellaStarfall]

Kango234 Did You Mean: Darling in the FRANXX

[@InchonDM]

"NOTHING is worse than a disappointment years in the making." Pat's experience with BSG describes almost perfectly the way I felt about the ending to Mass Effect. It was so goddamn good, SO goddamn good! There was no way they could fuck it up! I waited literal years after the event to play 3 because I heard that they had fucked it up, carrying on from 2, one of my favorite games EVER, but in the end I had to know. And they fucked it up. It's still one of the worst things, and Pat is absolutely correct, because he's been there. We've all been there. NOTHING is worse.

[@sarafandumah4572]

You might not believe it but i and a few others smelled masseffects downfall with 2. Gears of masseffect. It was a joke comic but with them going EA the winds shifted. Streamlining of mechanics. Sensationalism. "Shepard dies at the start" and the skeletal shops that seemed to be that way for micro-transactions. Nothing is worst? How about the lead actor buys the show halfway through and DESTROYS it?

[@Judgement_Kazzy]

For extra context on how hard this show is shitting the bed, I highly recommend Shadiversity's video about the battle strategy in episode 803. People complained about them not killing enough important characters in that episode, but if they used any decent strategy at all, they probably would have ended up with way less casualties than they did.

[@cloudrider9142]

I mean, as long as D&D were adapting a book(series) it was all very fine... They have nothing but bullet points to go on, so they have to write it all themselves, obviously they're not as good at that. Ever since season 5 or whenever JS died, it went downhill as far as writing goes! I still watch it, because said bullet points are still pretty much what they were supposed to be, but the writing is just....

[@MrShitcakes69]

only Game of Thrones could manage to still be decent even when the writing took such a steep dive. no matter how hard they try to ruin the characters and the setting, everything about the show is just too strong for it to ever be an actually terrible show. but compared to seasons 1 3 and 4 its literal dogshit

[@ruancarlo2098]

That season is exactly why i stopped. Glad i did.

[@blitzkriegdragon013]

They had SEASONS of material they cut out (Dorne, Iron Islands, Griff, Lady Stoneheart). They were just lazy and now they pay for it.

[@benhramiak8781]

Love these discussions.

[@Velcreed]

"Fucking Chloe from Smallville ruined BSG" is a phrase I didn't know I needed in my life until now.

[@NeedMoreKimchi]

That HelloFutureMe video about rewriting that episode is kind of genius, and i'd highly recommend watching it to despair on what could've been.

[@JJJJJJJJJAAAAAA]

Love the Demon’s Souls background.

[@swkki9461]

FACE OFF HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT RESET THE CLOCK

[@sam007695]

I've had over 5 Game of Thrones content ads during this video.

[@forceofnature26]

Shh, no one tell Pat that HxH and TTGL were (supposedly) written by the seat of their pants

[@HarshNerf]

Well not really,authors usually have story beats ready to go and then their editors tell them to go a certain way according to ratings and what works. For eg hxh and katekyo Hitman reborn have very similar ups and downs/fighting tournaments but drastically different quality

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Authors normally have a lay out, but having specific points plotted out are normally dependent on the writer.

[@RGcrasyRG]

Pat, you are crazy. BSG has full seasons of shit. Still a good show though.

[@oniwahoo719]

38:00 Writing something and just seeing where it goes is a writing exercise, not really what you want to do with your published work tho

[@benhramiak8781]

I always plan in bullet points, because that's a good way for me to organise.