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World of Warcraft: Game-Wide First Ragnaros Kill

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Sameer Sheikh

Sameer Sheikh

15 жыл бұрын

Guild Ascent on the server Medivh takes down Ragnaros for the first time anywhere on April 25th, 2005.
Yes, I was too lazy to switch out my fiery enchant for something else, and no, we didn't use Ventrillo back then. Those skills you say I should be using? Completely different back then, or just plain broken.
Screenshot of the aftermath: www.aggybong.com/random/gaming/byerag.jpg
Also, despite what some others think, Ascent WAS first anywhere. Some links:
www.forumsx.net...
www.sk-gaming.c...
www.blizzplanet...
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Update: There's a lot of hate on vanilla. I get that. It's a completely different game now. However, some of you call it easy and boring and say we didn't know how to play when that couldn't be further from the truth. Keep this in mind: Out of the millions playing the game, our group of 40 was the first to take him down after months of trying.
The game was so hard back then for completely different reasons than what make it hard now, and it was so bad that they had to constantly nerf raid zones after Molten Core because such a low percentage of the population even got to see the zones, let alone kill a boss or clear the entire place.
I stole a post that sums it up pretty well:
www.mmo-champio...
There is a lot of crap and nostalgia about Vanilla raiding - but there's also some truth.
Notice how dps players had to heal using bandages? How melee back in the day had to watch aggro? How adds would spawn in phase 2 - and the raid had to CC those adds? How there were knockbacks that everyone had to consider during the fight? How mana was NOT infinite and healer ressources as a whole were pretty limited? How a lot of resistance buffs and gear were needed to gain enough survivability to even get close to a boss kill?
I didn't enjoy Vanilla raiding - and Molten Core is still THE most boring raid instance of all in my opinion. When compared to any of the Xpacks, it was sheer boredom (and the grinding required to gather raiding buffs etc. was brutal - in a very unfun and unpleasant way). But just because the dps rotations were a lot more simple and boss mechanics rather easy to grasp doesn't mean that you didn't have to watch your step and execute with rather small margins for error. This was especially true for the tanks - there was no way in hell that the backup tank would be able to gain aggro right away, if the main tank died. So, if the main tank died, it always meant a lot of casualties among the dps and healers.
The game has evolved to be a more fun game - and a faster game as well. But that shouldn't mislead anyone to believe that raiding in Vanilla was oh so easy. It wasn't. But it was definitely less fun.
PS: When Blizzard redid Naxxramas for WotLK, the instance was nerfed to be a shadow of it's former formidable Vanilla self. Why? Because even at level 70 in TBC, most people simply couldn't complete the original Naxxramas. It was - still - too hard and unforgiving. I'm not saying that's good or bad game design; I'm just pointing out that raiding back in Vanilla could be incredibly hard and have game mechanics that would still wipe a 40 man level 70 raid, 2 years after Naxxramas could be called "Current raid content". You can't say the same for any raid instance introduced in TBC or later.

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@MClollolol
@MClollolol 4 жыл бұрын
You're a legend! I've played a rogue my whole life and the fact that you evasion tanked for a bit on the world first Rag kill is amazing! Love it!
@beliskner
@beliskner 11 жыл бұрын
kudos for the tauren that sits down to eat after the kill
@Eazy_Bruh
@Eazy_Bruh 4 жыл бұрын
It’s so crazy looking back at the 10 yr old comments I miss he good days man
@TommyKay
@TommyKay 13 жыл бұрын
THESE GUY WERE REAL HEROS, today it all so easy
@gingerbilly1396
@gingerbilly1396 3 жыл бұрын
Love the hoi4 Videos
@Arielgames
@Arielgames 3 жыл бұрын
that do be true
@ClearMind777
@ClearMind777 3 жыл бұрын
This guys PC must have been insane back then. I couldn't imagine anything over 5 fps in raid
@Hooga89
@Hooga89 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Geforce 4200ti back then(128mb VRAM, 200 dollar card), and it could run the game pretty much 40-60fps on 1280x1024 resolution. WoW really didn't demand a lot, it's just that the concept of a "gaming PC" really wasn't an established thing yet.
@Kreege
@Kreege 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hooga89 very true. Most people have memories of playing the game on their family's 1999 emachines pos, but It didn't really take much power at all to run the game smoothly as long as you had a proper setup. An $800 entry level build would be enough to play the game smoothly even in raids.
@Sethern79
@Sethern79 14 жыл бұрын
I was there for this kill. I was A troll hunter named Sethern. My god it was fun. I rember seeing everyone around me droping like flys my own hp was at 200 when Rag went down. Watching this Video reminded me of just how much fun WoW was at one time. God I miss the good old days. It was fun Ascent.
@Smokinthegood1
@Smokinthegood1 13 жыл бұрын
wow this brings me back, when horde was really horde with no blood elves thanks for postin
@robinw9405
@robinw9405 6 жыл бұрын
very nice piece of nostalgia i am 29 years old now and i miss those times cant believe it has passed so many years... and unfortunetly there is no more people like old times in game, community became so mean in wow. anyways thanks to method for bringing old memories
@justinarmstrong7532
@justinarmstrong7532 5 жыл бұрын
you mean Ascent. Method didn't get world first Rag. troll :P
@JimBobe
@JimBobe 3 ай бұрын
Ok grandpa!
@hippaul
@hippaul 13 жыл бұрын
Ahhh man memories. What I wouldn't give to be able to experience the times of 2005-2007 once more.
@atrox7685
@atrox7685 Жыл бұрын
Play hardcore wow. The closest u can get
@slappytheclown4
@slappytheclown4 2 ай бұрын
I tried playing WoW a couple times back then as a kid and just wasn't smart enough at the time to grasp all the mechanics. Now that Im an adult looking back I'm sad that I missed out on such an incredible gaming experience, playing it now just isn't the same.
@hippaul
@hippaul 2 ай бұрын
@@slappytheclown4 Yeah man. I mean, I got to experience it all and even still I can appreciate what you mean because I’ve chased that feeling ever since and it can’t be replicated. I realize now a lot of it is because back then most people weren’t online. So it was a very different atmosphere back then. As great as it is everyone can have the internet now I can’t lie, it was much more special when not everyone did. The pre smart phone days. People were FAR more friendly and chill. I was a kid when WoW came out too, a teen. Nov 23rd 2004 the day after my 15th birthday lol. Sorry for the long rambling reply. Just got me nostalgic seeing this on my feed. PS: If Blizz ever releases new vanilla classic servers again like the 2019 ones, I recommend giving them a shot. They aren’t the same experience but damn it is as good as we can get lol
@Ryan_hey
@Ryan_hey 5 жыл бұрын
5:12 interesting chat conversation
@Syrick
@Syrick 13 жыл бұрын
I remember this being so much more intense back then...
@twomper
@twomper 7 жыл бұрын
Man, I remember our guilds first Rag kill. That shit was a lot of work for us. Made it all the way to Naxx in vanilla, but never could make our way thru. Vanilla was amazing.
@Congutalgunit
@Congutalgunit Жыл бұрын
Can you still play Vanilla? I used to play WoW over a decade ago then quit and lately Ive seen Blizzard brought back Vanilla wow?
@BosnaVolimte
@BosnaVolimte Жыл бұрын
@@Congutalgunit you can
@512GJ
@512GJ 5 жыл бұрын
Hearing all those in-game sounds going on in the raid and all the ranged spells being thrown upwards towards ragnaros is so fucking badass.
@brotobeans
@brotobeans 2 жыл бұрын
ah yes, cold blood spec raiding, no slice n dice, no wonder content seemed hard back then
@Gneisenau1760
@Gneisenau1760 4 жыл бұрын
15 years of world first Ragnaros. GZ ASCENT!
@rickandrygel913
@rickandrygel913 5 жыл бұрын
But what was the loot?
@adriangar95
@adriangar95 9 жыл бұрын
The combat is SO EXITING!! Best raid ever!! Vanilla raid were the best tons of mechanics and skill for kill bosses! -Vanilla / Burning Cryers
@82pixels
@82pixels 8 жыл бұрын
+Adrian Gar lol what mechanics
@RetroSteve0
@RetroSteve0 8 жыл бұрын
+82pixels He was being sarcastic. The sarcasm went woop way over your head.
@gwynedd8179
@gwynedd8179 7 жыл бұрын
There's more to WoW than just raiding, but I wouldn't expect a wrath/cata baby to understand
@cpeds808
@cpeds808 6 жыл бұрын
Vanilla had some great mechanics, Rag was just a boring boss. Even just in MC you had Majordomo as a more interesting encounter
@fumanchu7
@fumanchu7 6 жыл бұрын
Rag was mostly a gear check. The real difficulty is that he's at the end of a 3-5 hour 40 main raid dungeon. Unless you were in a guild that had MC on farm status, you could very easily wipe on Rag just due to party exhaustion. In terms of tactics and strategy, if the party could get past Majordomo then Rag was going down unless group dynamics broke down due to fatigue. In that way our guild considered Majordomo the actual boss of the dungeon.
@Meusberg
@Meusberg 5 жыл бұрын
lol standing there and auto attacking while whispering your friends was raiding back then, and it was fun
@Wockes
@Wockes 5 жыл бұрын
@kellar J Back when you had to figure out the strats for yourself without a guide. And don't forget this was old Vanilla talent trees
@user-zs9so3sg5u
@user-zs9so3sg5u 5 жыл бұрын
@@Wockes what strat are you talking about ? this only shows how ridiculous vanilla pve level was
@Shatamx
@Shatamx 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-zs9so3sg5u Yes and half of this raid was playing on a potato with 250ms internet. Ball Mice and a square monitor. Ofc PVE is less mechanical and easy back then. Or no one would kill anything from the lag lol.
@zeke4493
@zeke4493 Жыл бұрын
@@user-zs9so3sg5u we actually did have to strategize for this, and it was the unique strategy we devised that allowed us to beat Afterlife/FOH to the world first. We determined that a single rogue could stunlock/"tank" an elemental during our first number of attempts, and so we spent quite some time farming fire resist gear and consumables on our rogues to do so without requiring a ton of healing from their AOE damage. One of the few useful mods at the time was a gear swap mod, so we determined that we could maximize DPS by having rogues in their DPS gear before the first elementals phase, and then having them vanish (to clear aggro), swap to their FR set and pick an elemental to "tank" during it. This alleviated a ton of mana pressure from our healers to help push for the eventual kill. Strategy back then was more about efficient resource utilization than mechanics dodging/execution. I prefer modern raiding myself, however
@flamechicken415
@flamechicken415 9 жыл бұрын
the golden age
@faelirra
@faelirra 5 жыл бұрын
@MonsterKat played it all the way through. Actually having mechanics, a full rotation of more than a couple of buttons and actually keeping focused on the boss is more gameplay than what is shown on there. And that's just boss 1 of any post Wrath boss.
@kzpylj7729
@kzpylj7729 3 жыл бұрын
the druids casting one wrath every 5 seconds lmao
@Aerisot
@Aerisot Ай бұрын
Not pictured here is the ventrillo server crashing from everyone screaming and hollering.
@Tetros1
@Tetros1 13 жыл бұрын
I never played vanilla wow and everyone always says it was amazing but this looks really boring to me. He uses like 5 spells the whole time.
@intentionalgamers2222
@intentionalgamers2222 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately for anyone who wasn't there, they will never experience what others did during the time when Vanilla was live. It seems boring in comparison to the current version of game but that's just how it goes. But it was far from boring during the time this game was live. Truly a difference experience than today's WoW.
@Shatamx
@Shatamx 3 жыл бұрын
@@intentionalgamers2222 I miss it. Just no way I could do that again. The 12-14 hour days was so easy to sit through during vanilla and TBC. Now after about 1-2 hours of gaming I'm done for the day. No idea how I did it 15 years ago.
@intentionalgamers2222
@intentionalgamers2222 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shatamx I share the sentiment with you.
@mattiik
@mattiik 13 жыл бұрын
gem of a video
@Laredon0
@Laredon0 13 жыл бұрын
I found this video on Paragon's site, and its funny to see how it was done back in the days. I love the druid standing there throwing a HoT/Wrath/dispell every 30 secs or so, ranged dps doing the same :'D But its still a really nice fear! Gj!
@arefx
@arefx Жыл бұрын
watching this bringing back so many memories
@Daralyndk
@Daralyndk 7 жыл бұрын
so true I was never part of the world class raiding guild, but we had a decent group later and some harder events like Yogg'Saron without any helpers was amazing to kill for the first time
@Stronkboi
@Stronkboi 5 жыл бұрын
IT TOOK 4 DAYS JESUS CHRIST LUL
@mayhem2648
@mayhem2648 5 жыл бұрын
"Vanilla is harder than retail"
@azurehaiku
@azurehaiku 5 жыл бұрын
i mean, it is these people have been planning this stuff for years. they practiced so much just to be world first at something in classic
@Osiris261
@Osiris261 5 жыл бұрын
@@mayhem2648 i never die on retail i do on classic. dont compare the general player with the top no life guilds ;D
@CL-jq1xs
@CL-jq1xs 5 жыл бұрын
@@azurehaiku i don't think planning for years is even necessary when you can kill the boss with nearly half of the raid members being lower than level 60. Not to mention they didn't farm for consumables and most of them were in green gears. They even went full gnomes to show how min-maxing wasn't even close to being necessary. If the current players have the gears and preparation equivalent to Ascent they would have 1-2 shotted instead of wiping so many times. People just got better.
@mayhem2648
@mayhem2648 5 жыл бұрын
@@Osiris261 you prob dont die on retail because you dont run much mythic raid and dgs 15+ lol, +'s are much harder than any content in Classic, theres much more above that 10+ weekly. people wipe literally thousands of times clearing current Mythic content
@BEPrimAnim
@BEPrimAnim 11 жыл бұрын
To those complaining about the game being better back then, just remember how the only action you had to perform was pressing 1 all the time. ALL the time.
@feikken
@feikken 14 жыл бұрын
God bless you for not sticking a crappy song in with this video.
@Kessra
@Kessra 13 жыл бұрын
@xAeis I addmit many top-raiding guilds don't have dbm-modules at start - but they often have the people to implement own modules/addons. I know a handful of top 20 world-ranked guildes that use power auras excessively. So even if they don't use DBM, they use some (self-written) addons to track certain abilities and time-events. The difference between a pro-player and a good player is the time-input on new encounters and the dedication they put into playstyle and knowledge of their class
@devilsboy000
@devilsboy000 13 жыл бұрын
the dedication it took to do raids back then was amazing people think 10 and 25 mans are hard try cordinating 40 people perfectly because there was no "new content lets nerf the old content so people can do that casually now" it was all hard all the time no matter what your gear was.
@mordredcollin4560
@mordredcollin4560 2 жыл бұрын
if only u knew
@croszdrop1
@croszdrop1 2 ай бұрын
a rogue clicking feint on rag, peak gaming :)
@MujoAndFata
@MujoAndFata 11 жыл бұрын
He is the second best DPS on the first Ragnaros kill anywhere in the world. You don't get the right to say he's bad, you don't!
@jodasaatte80
@jodasaatte80 11 жыл бұрын
People who didn't play vanilla won't understand. You spent every penny on consumables for raids. Only the most dedicated players earned exalted rep. Epics were exclusive. Legendaries were, well, legendary. The regular duds you see today covered in LFR gear, would be stuck doing UBRS for blue items. The game is more refined now, but it isn't as rewarding. The perfect mix was in Burning Crusade. The game was twice as good, but still as rewarding. Wotlk and onwards is a different game.
@jakeappleton5583
@jakeappleton5583 5 жыл бұрын
A FUCKING MEN!!!!! couldnt have said it better!!
@jakeappleton5583
@jakeappleton5583 5 жыл бұрын
@lobomuerto11 exactly!!!
@CL-jq1xs
@CL-jq1xs 5 жыл бұрын
oh your comment didn't age well. "You spent every penny on consumables for raids" proven false by the world first not using consumables. Heck they even did it with nearly half the raid being below level 60 and most of them were in green gears.....
@tudvemppi
@tudvemppi 12 жыл бұрын
@antonolluri i dont think ppl want the actual xpac back as much as they want the feeling it gave. might sounds a bit wierd but really. you had just started your epic "adventure" in an unexplored world n such. it was just awesome ;D i'd personally do anything to be able to go back to the vanilla or tbc times.
@Chronic4460
@Chronic4460 15 жыл бұрын
this video makes me sad... i miss the good old days, the real ones.
@stanzapalny2123
@stanzapalny2123 Жыл бұрын
"Banish! Where is Banish?!"
@MyYTaccountName
@MyYTaccountName 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else get the LBRS fire resist buff by mind controlling orcs before coming to the MC raid?
@BlindTouch2506
@BlindTouch2506 4 ай бұрын
黑石下层,拿火抗😂
@robertpirro6448
@robertpirro6448 5 жыл бұрын
This looks sooooo easy. Wow classic will be cake
@alirezaahmadi8944
@alirezaahmadi8944 5 жыл бұрын
yeah they killed it! in 5 days
@laurentlegaz6286
@laurentlegaz6286 4 жыл бұрын
​@@alirezaahmadi8944 Yeah a well trained guild named Apes, trained for years on private servers and have a huge community (and probably some bots) that send them components so they can grind pve/pvp h24. But I am pretty sure than most of the BFA kiddos did not went far and have leave by now and will never see bwl / AQ or Nax
@Kirinotes
@Kirinotes 15 жыл бұрын
It may seem like a ridiculously simple encounter, but back in the day Rag was innovative: phases, the need for DPS to off-tank, snap-aggro on add spawns and of course the large amounts of raid damage. Melt Weapon, though...that was an interesting little gimmick.
@Altorin
@Altorin 11 жыл бұрын
I do miss the bigness of 40man raids though.
@Deathshuck
@Deathshuck 15 жыл бұрын
I can imagine the mayhem going on in Ventrilo when Raggy went down.
@zer00rdie
@zer00rdie 11 жыл бұрын
Back when Bandages where crucial and every mage played frost
@rahbeat9785
@rahbeat9785 5 ай бұрын
not even SnD on bars xD awesome time capsule
@Kukulx
@Kukulx 14 жыл бұрын
Everyone is saying "FUCK FUCK FUCK" when ragnaros is down. "FUCK YEA" "FUCK THIS SHIT WOOT WOOT FUCK FUCK"
@blueactor672
@blueactor672 9 жыл бұрын
this is so anticlimactic
@ZX-ou5op
@ZX-ou5op 2 жыл бұрын
I miss this so much, even more considering the state of the game right now.
@SuperDuperSonicSpeed
@SuperDuperSonicSpeed 8 жыл бұрын
I understand why everyone says Vanilla WoW was hard... it's because everyone was a bunch of keyboard turning, clicking noobs.
@davidmorley8008
@davidmorley8008 8 жыл бұрын
+SuperDuperSonicSpeed And everyone now-a-days are a bunch of addon facerolling noobs, with overpowered items, better rng, etc. It was harder back then. In fact, I played all expansions except for Cata, and it's gotten WAY easier since Vanilla.
@SuperDuperSonicSpeed
@SuperDuperSonicSpeed 8 жыл бұрын
+David Morley I've played since TBC and it's a shame you missed Cata. The beginning of Cata was pretty damn hard. But yes, it is much easier these days. It was just a joke.
@facebookjpb
@facebookjpb 8 жыл бұрын
+SuperDuperSonicSpeed ''Clicking noobs''. Bc keyboard is harder than mouse? lmao
@SuperDuperSonicSpeed
@SuperDuperSonicSpeed 8 жыл бұрын
+Una tal persona No, it's easier... thats the point of using keybinds instead of clicking your abilities.
@RetroSteve0
@RetroSteve0 8 жыл бұрын
+SuperDuperSonicSpeed There's nothing wrong with that in a PvE environment. In PvP it's a different story because being able to turn 180 degrees in an instant is pretty much a requirement, but that's not the way it is in PvE. Vanilla WoW was hard because no one had the gear for it. First time going into MC no one knew that at least 70% of the damage you take is fire damage, and no one knew there were bosses that were exclusive fire damage where armor rating pretty much meant nothing and it was all about resists.
@XUnsafeNormalX
@XUnsafeNormalX 14 жыл бұрын
Now that fight was a true challenge.
@Indipuk
@Indipuk 12 жыл бұрын
oh the memories, back then wow was actualy interesting.
@YujiNakaSonic
@YujiNakaSonic 5 жыл бұрын
why are they all wearing heirlooms if this is classic
@fluffymoomin
@fluffymoomin 13 жыл бұрын
We didn't use vent or teamspeak or any voice program. We used vent for the first time raiding I believe in AQ40 when we were doing twin emps.
@K0ldness
@K0ldness 13 жыл бұрын
I like the part where he clicked his spells.
@EarlsCourt75ProShot
@EarlsCourt75ProShot 11 жыл бұрын
Tauren @ 6:55: "Meh, time for food."
@rex3453
@rex3453 14 жыл бұрын
I miss Vanilla WoW.
@ToriRocksAmos
@ToriRocksAmos 9 жыл бұрын
480p we meet again
@krull5245
@krull5245 15 жыл бұрын
6:39 - 6:50 So classic vanilla. Shaman dies, reincarnates and FROST SHOCK --> ragnaros dead. Oh I miss those times 5*
@TeamMagique
@TeamMagique 11 жыл бұрын
Not to mention only like 1% of players saw raids until the end of Burning Crusade. Groups were EXTREMELY selective back then, and if you weren't all tweaked out on gear you weren't even pugged. I used to play a rogue in vanilla WoW and raiding was nearly impossible to earn a spot for.
@narutoman102
@narutoman102 10 жыл бұрын
I played on this server back then and it was great ascent was a great guild and fury was the best alliance I was a great rogue named shessomuru in BBB hmu if anyone remembers playing on medivh it was great
@QuiteCute89
@QuiteCute89 13 жыл бұрын
Sure brings out some memories, to the newer players it was a completely different game back then, if you've never had alts camping outdoor dragons and calling together a raid mid day to get some nature resist gear before AQ, buffing entire raids with a single songflower, saving nefs head for that one special go at c'thun pre nerf or done thaddius with 40 people when servers were at their worst then you cant possibly relate to how the game was. I'm not saying it was harder just different...
@Argcz
@Argcz 13 жыл бұрын
@Artictoc dps was easy, but believe me, healing and dispelling was hard as shit. You have to realize that back then there was no "smart abilities" like cyrcle of healing etc. You had to heal 1 person at a time without any good addons. You just cant understand unless you played the oldest version of wow...but yes molten core boss fights very pretty straight forward. It was the shit itemization and no addons and lack of experience that made them hard.
@KonradGM
@KonradGM 7 ай бұрын
i kinda wish someone would redid this ui into modern wow since it looks neat
@Kessra
@Kessra 13 жыл бұрын
the problem with ragnaros back in vanilla was to bring up the fire-resistance and still be able to deliver the required dps/hps for his sons. back then a healer had 3-4k hp and mana and a tank 6k hp and ragna was hitting the tank wearing his special fr-gear with 2-3k+ each hit and kicking random players through the air (falling dmg or swimming in lava) with todays "standards" this encounter looks easy, but you can't compare vanilla with cata as the game turned nearly 180 degrees!
@zXTyRaNTXz
@zXTyRaNTXz 12 жыл бұрын
I fucking miss vanilla wow so much :(
@Macky91SWE
@Macky91SWE 12 жыл бұрын
if thats the way you like to put it... Im telling you, I have been watching friends who play the game today and the access to the endgame is a lot easier today, there is even no need for a guild, there are queues for everything, you dont have to farm gear for weeks and do long prequests just to be able to actually start raiding. Also, getting a full "set" today is much easier due to the gear tokens or what they are called that you trade in for a setpiece. The game was for less "casual" players.
@donshont
@donshont 13 жыл бұрын
@Mikrobitz resistance fights arent hardcore. and if anything less abilities is an argument against. the rogue uses a total of 2 buttons the entire fight. ss and evis.
@jc.eh.123
@jc.eh.123 7 жыл бұрын
Back when potions and bandages were important
@ArkBlanc
@ArkBlanc 15 жыл бұрын
historic moment.
@JW-ln9ln
@JW-ln9ln 5 жыл бұрын
Back when WoW was hard. God I miss those days. Legit was so fun. :(
@Fliptality
@Fliptality 5 жыл бұрын
lol hard. this is world first and they barely move
@Marqrk
@Marqrk 4 жыл бұрын
They just stood there and used the same 5 spells Yeah it was hard maybe at the time cuz they didn’t have all the info we have now, but the difficulty was just in figuring out how the game worked rather than actually playing it. Any raid boss and even most dungeon boss has more mechanics than Ragnaros and require more of the player. It’s a difference of difficulty from preparation and learning vs difficulty from execution.
@Shatamx
@Shatamx 3 жыл бұрын
@@Marqrk Lol no PC during this video would be able to handle any of the mechanics of today. Blizz made it easy so everyone could do it. More so on potato PC's. Like most players had back then.
@Ukraize
@Ukraize 13 жыл бұрын
Rag was absolutely hard when you were killing him in Vanilla. The sheer amount of Greater Fire Protection Potions that guilds had to use when there weren't potting limits, dealing with Sons of Flame when most classes didn't have decent aoe.. It wasn't so much 'complicated' as it was getting 40 quasi-competent people focused enough to do it. Oh, and having enough resto druids to innervate priests... Damn innervates, I wanted to be feral :D
@shalakabooyaka1480
@shalakabooyaka1480 9 жыл бұрын
auto attack ALL THE AIR!
@WickedLukas
@WickedLukas 11 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more with what you've said.
@irtehasian
@irtehasian 11 жыл бұрын
lol watching this brings back memories. i raided as a Undead rogue in vanilla. man this is a crazy UI set up for vanilla. I'm pretty sure only thing i had back then was Omen, and w/e we called DBM back then lol.
@sariusmonk
@sariusmonk 13 жыл бұрын
@BowtieBear I used to raid in vanilla,.. and there was still teamspeak, so "no vent" isn't true. DBM and unbalanced classes, absolutely true. Took us weeks of raiding just to down Lucifron, but after that, only ones to cause trouble were Garr, Majordomo and of course, Ragnaros. It was hard back then, but compared to todays stuff, you don't need to concentrate as much. The fact is players just expect more these days.
@PerfectionIncarnate
@PerfectionIncarnate 13 жыл бұрын
On top of that, we didn't have half the UI utilities or comforts that exist even in non-modded WOW these days. The raid interface back then was a complete joke. That being said, MC was mostly just an entry level training raid instance. Most guilds who actually managed to kill Ragnaros then spent weeks wiping to Razorgore and Vaelastrasz, unless they had been farming MC for so long that they had everyone sporting epics (something that was very rare back in the day).
@sartte
@sartte 14 жыл бұрын
" I don't have enough energy..."
@Phitzgood
@Phitzgood 10 жыл бұрын
Cool, its Glayde. Hi Glayde.
@iceanon
@iceanon 13 жыл бұрын
@Mikrobitz That may well be, but to say that the game was somehow "harder" back then is imo an overstatement, the best guilds of today and the ones that are killing unnerfed content are mostly guilds made up of players that have been playing this game for a long time, and know not only their own class but all the others aswell - as many of them have played many of the classes.. Boss mechanics are also much more complex then they used to be..
@konnykruse
@konnykruse 13 жыл бұрын
How I miss these times..
@C1utch
@C1utch 13 жыл бұрын
@MCWojtekk I could be totally wrong tho. I have a bad memory. I couldn't find a website that told me only vanilla skills.
@Travass80
@Travass80 14 жыл бұрын
@Alextheanarchist Vanilla was difficult because players and developers had no idea wtf to do with a lot of the classes in the game. Itemization was horrible, rogues being one of the only classes with relatively decent itemization in vanilla. The mechanics were all new. There weren't 10 million websites with boss strategies, specs, mathmatical equations for dps output. Yeah, fighting rag now is a joke, but 5 years ago, it was insane and pretty difficult.
@clubpenguinfan1235
@clubpenguinfan1235 8 жыл бұрын
i kill him in 1 hit on my death knight lol
@guloy1
@guloy1 8 жыл бұрын
you are on every vanilla raid video lol
@clubpenguinfan1235
@clubpenguinfan1235 8 жыл бұрын
GenovaGirlfriend#69 i was letting people know what my death knight can do
@randallsmith8825
@randallsmith8825 8 жыл бұрын
no one cares what your death knight can do
@clubpenguinfan1235
@clubpenguinfan1235 8 жыл бұрын
Randall Smith people told me im pro
@clubpenguinfan1235
@clubpenguinfan1235 8 жыл бұрын
***** death knight is best
@Switch72nd
@Switch72nd 13 жыл бұрын
The only thing hard about vanilla content was getting 40 people together to do the damn things.
@Macky91SWE
@Macky91SWE 12 жыл бұрын
oh wait, you forgot the part where you put together a 40 man guildrun raid and kept it together even after weeks of wipes.
@sampsalol
@sampsalol 13 жыл бұрын
I remember doing Rag back in the day, sure isn't hard but I was excited as fuck.
@PerfectionIncarnate
@PerfectionIncarnate 13 жыл бұрын
@xade76 It was hard back when there weren't even Dire Maul blues to help with the fight. Most guilds had members still sporting greens when the Molten Core opened up and had to rely on random MC drops for upgrades. This meant that healing was bloody, bloody hard. I don't know how other guilds did it, but we had to have incredibly elaborate healing strategies for Ragnaros, along with several other MC fights, just because we knew we'd never be able to keep everyone alive in some of the encounters.
@user-cp9id1mj8b
@user-cp9id1mj8b Жыл бұрын
I'm curious about those healing strategies btw. Wanna elaborate?
@LeJokari
@LeJokari 12 жыл бұрын
The guy writes in raid, imagine this now :)
@markthielens7165
@markthielens7165 11 жыл бұрын
Because it was all about pressing 2 buttons, during all content, for all classes. Might look very simplistic. But WoW had so much for you to do during those times. Some of the bosses later on in Vanilla were proper hard.
@Skub_
@Skub_ 14 жыл бұрын
Ascent made this look easy, but shit was intense back in the day.
@lolwhatidk
@lolwhatidk 15 жыл бұрын
that's one sexy finkle's lava dredger
@bmcginnis6543
@bmcginnis6543 Жыл бұрын
BRE dropped too! Wonder who got it?
@bigdog7865
@bigdog7865 13 жыл бұрын
WoW in its purest, most fun form
@tadashit4838
@tadashit4838 5 жыл бұрын
this video makes me so happy, thanks for sharing
@xiDaNnY95xi
@xiDaNnY95xi 14 жыл бұрын
@antoloveslol no it was filmed back befor BC but only just uploaded in 2009 other whise their would be Dks running around
@Alextheanarchist
@Alextheanarchist 14 жыл бұрын
Everyone complains about how hard Vanilla was. I never played Vanilla, but this does not seem hard...
@rwarzor
@rwarzor 13 жыл бұрын
Also, look at how few buffs he has - MOTW Fort elixir of the mongoose strength scroll & battle shout compare that to all the buffs you get today, including flasks and passive auras!
@thingymabob7845
@thingymabob7845 13 жыл бұрын
omg did you see that SS...DID YOU SEE IT?! It was SO GOOOD!!! DID YOU SEE IT? DID YOU!?!!?
@PheboisPictures
@PheboisPictures 13 жыл бұрын
@Artictoc the people cant understand that classic was the beginning of all. it was only difficult because the people were new in that game. ragnaros and all the bosses from vanilla were easy but they dont want to admit that they played very bad...
@IQerat
@IQerat 12 жыл бұрын
The hardcore'ness of Vanilla wow right there :D
@user-kh8df6ji4s
@user-kh8df6ji4s 11 жыл бұрын
Today there's no original scholomance. I just tried to check your words , using the private server ( not wow-one ) and wowwiki in order to see what mobs' abilities were broken. found only one bug with last boss's teleporting players ( the gates sometimes didn't open after finishing the skeletons ). we cleared full scholo except Jandice in 1 hour 15 minutes (about 1 hour 50 minutes with her ) being in BRD-ST-DM(east)-LBRS gear. Yes , the Jandice room was f@%$#!ing hard , but not other places.
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