IJN DD's do not have terrible guns. They have fantastically great guns.. what they have it utterly terrible turret mounts..
@Iniour4 жыл бұрын
the reload is bad but the alpha damage is hughe, also the arks are excellet
@mowtow904 жыл бұрын
Yep, ever since they buffed the HE damage on them , they became one of the best guns. Good arks, high damage, acurrate. The only problem is the horrific turret trevers and possably the reload (I think the reload is OKis).
@tunnar794 жыл бұрын
@@Iniour The arcs are excellent for kiting away, but that's about it.
@domitiusseverus14 жыл бұрын
Fair analysis
@GravityTrash.4 жыл бұрын
@@mowtow90 buffed? more like unnerfed xD
@bobvulture65474 жыл бұрын
Seriously, when are we getting an Akazuki roar for Krakken unleashed? Something grand and fierce is missing here!
@StarBornMichael4 жыл бұрын
yes
@leodesalis59153 жыл бұрын
It should at least be updated for the jingles captain
@AdmiralSpaceballs4 жыл бұрын
"assashio in a torpedo range" a redundant phrase if there ever was one
@jasonchatham41704 жыл бұрын
We can hear The cats’ fancy water bowl running in the background. At first I thought ‘wow, Jingles is now recording in his bathroom’.
@jeremiahthomas98333 жыл бұрын
Thinkers make “sinkers” or “floaters” depending on their agenda. 😂
@harriettedaisy22333 жыл бұрын
He was. Jingles just blamed it on the cat.
@TheExecutorr4 жыл бұрын
barely two minutes into the video, and I already must give props to BigOneStep for beeing in an Asahsio and going straight for the cap.
@winoodlesnoodles19844 жыл бұрын
The Indianapolis and Shinonome potato that really bad. He should have been dead 3 minutes into the match. As always, the key to a good game is poor play from the opposition.
@JC-xz4ec4 жыл бұрын
While I am impressed he used his guns. I'm amazed he actually went towards the cap at all in an Asashio. Most of them I see sit 19.9 km away from the nearest red BB and throw torps at it. Often with their own BB's between them and the red BB.
@burnstick13804 жыл бұрын
Out of context: how accurate is jingles flag joke? The joke: "I claim here everything for queen elizabeth! You can't claim us we live here! Well do you have flaaag?"
@charlesbaker77034 жыл бұрын
Then is the Union Jack a strategic asset?
@DieyoungDiefast4 жыл бұрын
Looked almost like Bigonestep never got the memo about destroyers attacking carriers is a bad idea.
@anthavio4 жыл бұрын
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@foodman26724 жыл бұрын
@TheMan WhoLaughs weird comment chain to post it but honestly? the big issue with that is the ship flipping from something like that and if you made the ship wider to compensate it would increase drag and make the ship slower and overall harder to put places. So overall it might make a ship move side to side better but it would have far lower top speeds and possibly take longer than just turning the ship as we do now with a rudder.
@derpimusmaximus88154 жыл бұрын
"Swedish torpedo tube" sounds like a sex act as described by a Carry On film.
@Altarill4 жыл бұрын
Ooh Matron!
@derpimusmaximus88154 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Sid James would star as something like Rear Admiral Roger Allnite in that one.
@Matthew109504 жыл бұрын
I'm 36 and thought I was well versed. I have no idea what you're talking about. I wont google it yet. Care to explain?
@Thurgosh_OG4 жыл бұрын
@@Matthew10950 A series of british comedy films mainly from the 60s & 70s. Full of blatant innuendo and utterly fun. Sid James was one of the main actors throughout the series.
@henrikhedberg38003 жыл бұрын
M. Jingles, I just wanted to tell you that you're a great commentator! You've made me install World of Warships & World of Tanks, and eventually I might capitalise on your advise! Keep up the superb quality commentary work, your vids always gets me in a good mood.
@Stolens874 жыл бұрын
I really like the guns. The long reload gives me the opportunity to aim well and alpha packs a punch. The slow turret rotation is a problem if you are getting surprised.
@masterarkaine4 жыл бұрын
Kidd is not “basically a tier 7 Fletcher” it’s tier 8 Jingles....
@gnorris104 жыл бұрын
I caught that too...........Oh Jingles don't you ever change
@ainumahtar4 жыл бұрын
Still a Fletcher at lower tiers so at least he wasn't entirely wrong ^^ Also that guy would have won if he hadn't been a moron and fired his torps, if he'd just turned in and fired the guns he would have blasted the sassy ho to hell
@tsuaririndoku4 жыл бұрын
Jingles will always Jingles
@zameliz4 жыл бұрын
At this point of time it should be a well established fact that Jingles is bit crap. That may or may not also be the reason why we love him so much ^_^ Never change Jingles...
@tetragon21374 жыл бұрын
*Racks shotgun with malicious intent* ... Jingles?
@captbumbler53564 жыл бұрын
A great battle and lesson for us all. thanks Bigonestep for posting it . Keep up the good work Jingles
@davidknowles24914 жыл бұрын
"Not great, but it's not terrible" I see what you did there Jingles. ;)
@terranceroff81134 жыл бұрын
And let us not forget HSF Harekaze which is also a "gunboot"
@mossem50294 жыл бұрын
Furious probably prioritized the New Mexico because he was being attacked by it.
@legoboyfan1234567894 жыл бұрын
Been refreshing the page waiting for today’s post, gotta start off my 20th birthday with a video from overlord jingles. Getting violently drunk can wait
@cadeypie4 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday mate!
@Therod9114 жыл бұрын
Birthdays are a luxury our master doesn't tolerate. Get your birthday butt back to the salt mines! (And happy birthday ;-) )
@jamessquires70154 жыл бұрын
I hope you filed a request for a day off from the salt mines, even if you knew it was going to be denied.
@captbumbler53564 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday, you do know that as you get older, The mighty one increases your quota of salt to be dug.
@markdiplock34394 жыл бұрын
Happy 20th dude!
@brennanodea18783 жыл бұрын
While in a battleship, I have accidentally went around the transit set of islands in the excitement of a gun battle or was forced to dip around that way to avoid the sneaky DD attacks. Yes. It does take you way out the way, but sometimes ya can't help it.
@Plasma4384 жыл бұрын
You and Flambass are my most anticipated uploaders. Both of you get me chuckling while I listen to the commentary. May I request a 2021 WarThunder replay soon? :)
@viklasthemad4 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this, I'm listening to the blistering commentary, and everything is cracking! BUT... every time Jingles says "and he did it with his guns," all I can see/hear is the scene in Conan the Barbarian (the Arnie one, not the newer rubbish) where Subotai is helping the wizard (Mako R.I.P.) to his feet and he exclaims "I killed him... WITH MY SPEAR!" and I'm dying. Send help, please!
@miyabe_k1954 жыл бұрын
2:55 Actually Jingles, the Yugomo and Shimakaze can handle a gunfight... with BFT and the 3 Million credits reload Mod it can actually hold itself against a lot of enemy DDs
@ppunion3 жыл бұрын
This guy is like the bumblebee. For a long time scientists said that they did not understand how the bumblebee could possibly fly, but no one told the bumblebee so it kept flying. No one told this Captain that he can't use his guns, so he kept using them. :D
@markusdoe78814 жыл бұрын
9:27 actually Jingles, that's a Monarch, not a Bismark... jk love your content ;)
@coorowdarts4 жыл бұрын
tempting a trip to the salt mines. :-)
@paulfrancistorres71444 жыл бұрын
*Shotgun loading sounds intensifies*
@VSS_GAMING_SHORTS4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@tomriley57904 жыл бұрын
It was also 168 not 158 thousand damage but hey who cares..... click... bang... well it wouldn't be a jingles video without the oppourtunity to point out an error or two :-)
@Depipro4 жыл бұрын
A Monarch who utterly failed to use his hydro to detect all those predictable torpedoes in time. :p
@TheSnikers1114 жыл бұрын
Asashio and Japanese Destroyers guns usage will spike for next 24-48 hours, until everyone fails 3 times in a row and never use them again.
@cinjonsmythe63184 жыл бұрын
Jingles I have gone to guns quite a few times against DDs as well as BBs when smoked up. Like you said in this video, other players get uncomfortably surprised when I nail them for 3500 damage with my guns. All bets are off though vs Akizuki type DDs thats just a paddlin. This was a fun video to watch thank you and cheers.
@IRC20054 жыл бұрын
Jingles, “I didn’t fight in two world wars ...”, I knew that you were an old codger, but I didn’t realise that you were THAT old!
@GrachLP4 жыл бұрын
wars, not world wars. otherwise he would be well over 100 years old now...
@nikz97354 жыл бұрын
Falklands and gulf war most likely
@advocatusdiaboli15884 жыл бұрын
@@GrachLP He`s painting Tanks and Figurines so he must be well over 100 years old.
@WirlWind4944 жыл бұрын
@warren lynch The second conflict happened because there was only a single piece of chocolate cake left in the mess.
Top tip for torping boats screen shot all the maps you play and study them just like capt reads his maps seeking engagement.in real life . Any advantage or preparation is good make notes for each map and save .
@mara11mo4 жыл бұрын
Just started getting facebook ads for modeling and model painting, never was interested, never googled it , never whatched a video..... only a couple of your videos. Oh facebook ,you so inocent
@chancelorhiggins-gloor69994 жыл бұрын
One of the major differences in those engagements was context Jingles: The Shinonome was about two tiers lower then him, had other ships shooting at it and only had one salvo of torps to use. The Hsienyang had the Monarch to worry about as well. The Kidd got surprised and only managed to get one half salvo off that missed. Finally his Asashio had a 5 second reload or close to it making it nearly as dangerous as an Akizuki. Now they did very well in their ship, but things could have gone very differently especially if the Furious had gone after him.
@viktor83164 жыл бұрын
actually jingles, the last kill was made in the last second or two, the points were at 997
@thepiratemongoose89654 жыл бұрын
A lot of IJN DD captains don't use their guns because they don't rotate fast enough to track an enemy DD if both ships are maneuvering at close range (the Shinonome and Kidd were both sailing in straight lines and the Hsienyang was at long range). The Shinonome in this vid didn't fire earlier because his rear turrets weren't pointing in the right direction; it took that long for them to come around. He could have (and should have) fired a couple shots with his front turret, but it wouldn't have made a difference in the end.
@DDayJayke4 жыл бұрын
What that Nagato was doing is exactly what lead me to lose a match one time. I was in my baby, the Tirpitz and the friendly Bismarck on my team decided to go that way. Safe to say the enemy Izumo survived cause the Bismarck would have had been able to intercept the guy and we lost because the enemy team was ahead on points so if we killed him we would have won.
@CheefCoach4 жыл бұрын
It happen to me recently (or maybe even this morning) that half of my team went there. I was pissed.
@jamescodyjones4 жыл бұрын
Played a match yesterday in a DD. The teams had 2 DDs 1 BB and 3 CVs. Matchmaking is working as intended.
@LackeysLack4 жыл бұрын
17:59 Well, to be fair to the enemy carrier, his target in this case is a matter of immediate personal survival, not getting a destroyer flipping a cap circle, because that battleship HAS to be spotting him, nothing else could. Although rocket planes are...not exactly ideal for a battleship squished up near a shoreline. That was begging for a torpedo attack from the west. Which is justified at 19:09 when the carrier lost half his health.
@islamispagan21374 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual jingles god bless you and your family
@rildain763 жыл бұрын
I love my Assashio and I love to contest caps with it. The stealth is amazing and if you have your guns ready and can aim/kite worth a damn, you can absolutely hold your own vs other destroyers. I don’t go out of my way to pick fights with other DD’s, but if one is in range, I’m shooting at it because the guns take meaty chunks with every salvo.
@AG4KN4 жыл бұрын
Delightful banter Jingles!
@theredreiter4 жыл бұрын
How to play a DD 101. Chapter 1 - "Play the objectives," Chapter 2 - "Controlled Engagements of Other DDs," Chapter 3 - "How do Deliver Effective Torpedoes." Everything else is gravy.
@TheDowntimesfl4 жыл бұрын
it also really helps if the red cv is terrible and ignores you
@MrDgwphotos4 жыл бұрын
I once killed an Akatsuki with the guns on the Shiratsuyu, despite him having more HP and guns. The difference was, he was trying to chase me, where he only had two guns, and I kept weaving so that I could get all guns on target while he was limited to just the bow turret. Once he realized he was losing the fight, he surrendered the initiative, and I turned back and finished him.
@BloodAngel654 жыл бұрын
*Just quietly looks at his gunboat build Akatsuki and chuckles as he remembers killing a Black with it...*
@mattguellec4 жыл бұрын
I killed a Minsk with a Hatsuharu
@sumerenimchen59904 жыл бұрын
holy moly... lessons learnt!
@djolley614 жыл бұрын
As an IJN DD player, you have to pick the moment to use your guns. The big advantage of Japanese DDs is their stealth. If you can slip away you do. If you use your guns then you are spotted for a long time and have a good chance of severe damage.
@r.awilliams98154 жыл бұрын
Bad guns are better than no guns...fire 'em if you got 'em.
@billwalker95094 жыл бұрын
Jingles, not looking at the minimap? The New Mexico was threatening the CV.
@winoodlesnoodles19844 жыл бұрын
Lack of minimap awareness isn't just a player thing. :)
@TinStarShark4 жыл бұрын
What makes IJN DD guns dangerous to use is the shot range, slow rotation and rate of fire, low ship HP, and relatively slow ship speed. When you get into a position to use them, they can do some work.
@mavvh10544 жыл бұрын
I went to the no BB area in my JB. Murderized a Roon, Fletcher, and Dm Donskoi. Apparently they thought, "Aye, no BBs here? Great!."
@DarthMcLeod4 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that the Asashio actually has unusually good guns. The HE damage was tweaked upward to 2150 which is only 50 points below the 2200 AP damage.
@timeforgottenprince82714 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice that he was healing some of the damage he took just after getting the final kill? He had Isoroku Yamamoto as the captain
@BPKPhoenix4 жыл бұрын
As a majestic warrior who also _totally_ fought in two world wars, I do recall being on a new prototype destroyer that the Royal Navy built and on that same day, the captain of that ship beached it in the stupidest way possible. When I went to complain and give him a piece of my mind, I found myself in a gulag on the other side of the world.... Quite interesting if I do say so myself.
@Danyal_aka_Amagibestfox4 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early Flamu didn’t have a beard.
@beverlychmelik55044 жыл бұрын
Where was that carrier captain my last few tier 8 games? I played against a couple very good ones and they just camped on me until I was sunk.
@McLoven-vm1ck4 жыл бұрын
Some of the ijn destroyers guns aren't terrible, they just can't compete with the gunboats. It's always refreshing to see a Japanese destroyer Captain who understands their guns can be useful. It's the slow turret reverse and reload that gimps their guns, the shells are actually pretty decent.
@Algaean4 жыл бұрын
"clear contravention of the Geneva Conventions" - very catchy! :)
@danielwarren71104 жыл бұрын
i love my Asashio's guns because no one expects you to use them. with fire flags and the right skills on the captain and modules the asashio can hit hard, and if you get your detection down low enough you can get close enough to cit with ap broadside CAs
@dg19de4 жыл бұрын
12:45 The Kidd is not a T7, it is a T8; and the BB that died in the cap was a Monarch and not a Bismarck; though Otto von B. was a noble, in that regard the Friedrich Wilhelms of this world outclassed him
@generic_tylenol4 жыл бұрын
"These torpedoes do do a lot of damage..." heh...jingles said doo doo. wait, not the mines!
@robinvanrossum45224 жыл бұрын
Good morning Jingles
@sweetpoison53414 жыл бұрын
18:00 to be fair. enemy CV is spotted by the NM and in point blank range, he was fighting for his life.
@Blandil4 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is: I started playing WoWs with Japanese Destroyers and for a long time I didn't realize, that their guns are worse than those of other nations. So that habit of not using them never got to me. XD
@jeffreyestahl4 жыл бұрын
I drive IJN DDs all the time. My view of them is that while torps are your primary weapon, while you're waiting for the reload, you might as well fire the guns if they'll help. I think Mutsuki is likely an exception because with just 2 guns, you're not likely to get any real use out of them except in an emergency. This sort of behavior is much more common in lower tiers, so I would disagree with Jingles as it seems to be changing.
@justanotherviewer524 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jingles.
@TheDowntimesfl4 жыл бұрын
This is basically dream match making for the DD driver. Top Tier, with bottom tier sky cancer, and the red sky cancer dreams of becoming a paste eater someday.....
@StevenAndrews4 жыл бұрын
Actually jingles, The shen yang is my father's old ship. It was the uss power ddg839. It was a gearing class destroyer.
@MortenBulskov4 жыл бұрын
Not SHEN Yang BUT HSIEN Yang a Gleaves class (basically Benson class).
@StevenAndrews4 жыл бұрын
@@MortenBulskov thanks for the clarification
@strefs79394 жыл бұрын
Statistically speaking you're more likely to find a Japanese destroyer firing her guns than a US DD that doesn't ripple fire!
@louchemobile4 жыл бұрын
Asashio is brilliant. With torpedo acceleration and the new torpedo speed boost you get 76knot 16km torps. It's fantastic.
@nocturnalpulse67204 жыл бұрын
"Where were you when that memo was sent out?" Polishing his guns, obviously!
@Deliurus4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a British public announcement film from WW II on what to do during an Air Raid. first suggestion is to get to cover and not watch the bombers, few dozen other suggestions near the end it again suggest get to cover and Not stand outside watching the bomber!
@terry585014 жыл бұрын
I recently got a kraken unleashed in my Fujin. 3 gun kills, one death by fire (started by guns) and a torp kill.
@speed150mph4 жыл бұрын
Jingles. Given your love of naval warfare, and since your not opposed to playing games in stages of development, you should give ultimate admiral: dreadnoughts a try. I’ve been watching other youtubers playing it and it seems right up your alley.
@bradley98564 жыл бұрын
how can he get put up against ships of much lower tier, yet when i play my ships im always put up against ships of my tier, or higher (normally higher)
@naverilllang3 жыл бұрын
He does. He just doesn't get kraken unleashed in those matches, so you don't see those videos. Survivorship bias
@TheFreaker864 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! Yesterdays video featuring Sir Foch must have mined so much extra salt Jingles is squandering it now so hard that the antarctic would free ice free in no time! ;-P
@jasonholmes61373 жыл бұрын
I guess if this guy was captain during wwii japan may not have to check up on the surface ships with an rov thank good for timing
@M.Hvistendal4 жыл бұрын
I actually love the guns on my Kagero!! If they would reload slightly faster, they would be almost perfect for me...
@ioniigaming51004 жыл бұрын
Basically you are right Jingles with the Nagato but this Map is the Northern Lights Map and so this Map doesn´t have those "Big Red Signs" it is on the "North" Map where those Signs are bcs it got a lot more Island on the 9/10 Line
@eros136914 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in seeing World of Warships add American PT boats, Kriegsmarine Schnellboot, and the other equivalent to the game. Might make things very interesting depending on how it was done.
@abyssalreclass4 жыл бұрын
I use the guns all the time in my Shimakaze. It's a good way to get damage, especially in those games where you can't hit anything with the torpedos.
@drakath7944 жыл бұрын
As an IJN destroyer captain of a half-upgraded(torpedoe & hull upgrade) Fubuki, I must say that I have sunk more destroyers of other nations with my guns; and I have been sunk by more IJN destroyers using their guns. Than the times a destroyer of another nation has sunk my Fubuki. Well, except anyone in a suicidal Kamikaze R, Minekaze and Mutsuki. I've noticed that like myself, my fellow IJN captains have learned to fire our guns quite accurately. Not every one has gotten the Naval Letter Invitation for Gunnery School. 😉
@yoshitakaoftedahl26204 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early jingles was still in the Royal Navy
@Noctyn4 жыл бұрын
I love using the guns on my Asashio B, enemy dds don't expect it and make stupid mistakes thinking I won't fire, panic fire everything when I do and chunk them for a lot of damage, and then they die.
@lordroo84844 жыл бұрын
Jingles, it was 1 second to go because his team was at 997 points.
@reissyboi75274 жыл бұрын
“If there’s a kid in that smokescreen, what’s he most likely to be doing?”
@Ned-Ryerson4 жыл бұрын
Take your mind out of the gutter. :P
@Anti-Air4 жыл бұрын
i love using my guns in my Japanese dd's however i do it smart by shooting right before i get behind an island and done right you can shoot an remain unspotted and i always use my guns in smoke whats the point in just sitting there. I do quite like surprising especially other japanese ships when they realize how hard their guns can hit and start shooting but its too late.
@SirTools4 жыл бұрын
inconceivable
@kano4282 Жыл бұрын
Great match. Great commentary 😂
@Alegost14 жыл бұрын
judging the way the nagato died to only thing i can say in favour of his plan was to deny the enemy team the points his kill would get them for as long as possible..... in which case he more or less succeded
@tragedyofwind4 жыл бұрын
to be honest, T7 IJN DD, is it fubuki or akatsuki? can easier outgun other DD at longer range. I did it a few times, and no problem handling USN DD. more to the fact that light USN shell cn't hit well at longer distance.
@johnvdk99364 жыл бұрын
These 140mm guns can hit hard I once killed 2 Clevelands in 1 battle in an Asashio (not alone, but had a good share in the damage). Wait till they pop radar, wait till it is on cool down, smoke up had start farming...
@zj60744 жыл бұрын
That Bismarck at 9:39 is looking suspiciously british there Jingles ...
@dariolinder45084 жыл бұрын
Laying down and giving up will not help. We do not abide by the geneva convention, it will not save you.
@forgotten094 жыл бұрын
I salute whoever still playing those IJN torpedo boats. I quit WoWS when I reach the Isokaze and realise every match (at least in SEA) is a triple CVs game, it's just not fun at all.
@hubristicmystic4 жыл бұрын
The Japanese were not signatories of the Geneva convention Jingles, silly man
@egyptian3164 жыл бұрын
The margin between best and worst guns is smaller than the margin between best and worst players.
@rocketfishx34744 жыл бұрын
can anyone please tell me the name of the jingles video where he talks about carrier deck armor philosophies?
@burritochurrito19934 жыл бұрын
Tough as old boots, I believe.
@rocketfishx34744 жыл бұрын
@@burritochurrito1993 YES !!! Thank you very much. Very happy now. I 😃
@rofln00b4 жыл бұрын
I once got a Kraken in my Shimakaze with 0 torpedo kills. Four kills directly with the guns and fifth with a fire.
@jessegd63064 жыл бұрын
My internet's been shite today, so through the video it just sounded like Jingles had a case of hiccups. Also Tank Mechanic Simulator released yesterday.
@ecash004 жыл бұрын
why he not aiming torps??
@axelmiranda20014 жыл бұрын
What is an easy and good starting ship line in WoW for a new player?
@daemonhunter1004 жыл бұрын
Depends on what you want to do.
@axelmiranda20014 жыл бұрын
@@daemonhunter100 I started randomly going thru the German battleship line
@Beert26324 жыл бұрын
I always knew I should be sending Jingles those ijn dd replays where I have to gunfight everything because my torps are goddamn 8km range, lol
@HGMBALDER4 жыл бұрын
If it is the 8km shima torps, and you drop them against an enemy DD that has you spotted, he can be pretty fucked, pretty fast ;-) That is basically what I do, if they are ready to be launched. and I quite often win the stand off :-)
@andreasmuller46664 жыл бұрын
Devonshire asking for AA support against a T6 CV is like a Daring asking for smoke.
@markcostello51204 жыл бұрын
What was that Ryujo doing attacking the Arizona Jingles? Well seeing as that Ryujo didn't have any support and an Arizona bearing down on him, he was probably trying to stay in the game by killing the Arizona before the Arizona killed him. Just a guess..
@madthomm96484 жыл бұрын
I think you mean the New Mexico, but yes the carrier is rightly trying to save himself.