Worst MMO Ever? - Lucent Heart

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An entire emote tab of flirtation and couples interaction, these Eastern MMO's just get creepier and creepier.
Suba Games, seriously, why are you doing this?
Lucent heart is a generic anime MMO made in the early 2010's and should be avoided at all costs.
Many thanks to the Patreon supporters and twitch subs for keeping the channel going!

[@visceral8293]

"The meta is making out with someone before charging into battle" is one of the most anime things I've ever heard

[@ericb3157]

reminds me of an old Star Wars themed game i read about where watching someone Dance would restore your health...and Dancing was a SKILL, which counted toward the limited number of skills any one character could learn! other non-combat skills included weapon crafting. it had a pretty-well made player-run economy... BUT the game was effectively ruined by the inclusion of Jedi characters. after that, EVERYONE wanted to be a Jedi, and since Jedi don't use blasters, all the weapon crafters went out of business, and so on.

[@dontkickmychick6076]

@@ericb3157 capitalism moment

[@spoofsrocks13]

Ancient Greece moment.

[@Fiercesoulking]

Well I could understand if somebody wanted to make the world better with this game but not with this cash shop. By the way Runes of Magic had when married some other char also very useful buffs xD

[@Christian-gr3gu]

the power of love is just a more powerful version of the power of friendship

[@KaguyaHimex]

This entire series is basically "triggering your long-buried memories of banner ads you saw on deviantart in 2007"

[@MerlinCross13]

Yeah. The memories of weird mmo/card game banners on old art/comic sites are coming back.

[@belstar1128]

Good times i always wondered what those games where like but i had limited time so i only played games that i knew where good.

[@MerlinCross13]

@@belstar1128 The only 3 I really tried were... Urban Rivals, Eredan and Pocket Nightmares..., Eredan died, Pocket Nightmares rebranded(Due to Pocket Monsters/Pokemon) dunno what's it doing anymore, and Urban Rivals is.... still alive WAT? But yeah several pages of Mabonogi ads along with those three spring to mind.

[@CYPH3RsD0M41N]

Not just DeviantArt! A lot of Flash Games websites had those kind of ads plastered all around them.

[@MerlinCross13]

@@CYPH3RsD0M41N I saw Pocket Nightmare on Armor Games years ago. And Newgrounds always had weird and wild game ads.

[@Alresu]

Josh: "If you need more room to display your stuff, just use more room! You've got the room!" Also Josh: "I am still determined to list every Patreon supporter on one slide."

[@imasspeons]

This is funnier than it should have been. Well done.

[@ashleyreynolds8961]

bruuuhhhh, damn lol ... this made me smile! He is right, Josh!

[@BasvandenBerg]

Well... he does use the full screen space :P

[@AmaryInkawult]

Still is to this day, and I need a microscope to read the patron names

[@Alresu]

@@AmaryInkawult Not sure, how you get the second monitor in a slide, but colour me impressed!

[@ayajade6683]

They all share a sound designer because it's one held captive in a shared warehouse

[@DarthZ01]

It's just some dude handcuffed to a chair with a computer from the 90s loaded with thousands of stock sound effects and he just has to drag-and-drop them onto crappy mmos all day

[@adventurepeaks4514]

Maybe if we put some of these awful audio clips into a audio spectrogram it wil spell out "help me"

[@Phantom_Zer0]

I had the same dark though, hahaha. .. maybe it's true.

[@Phantom_Zer0]

@@adventurepeaks4514 - it will say "pay now fifty dolah, yes?"

[@desther7975]

I figure they don't even have a dedicated sound designer. Something tells me these games are pieced together from preexisting bits of software and audio libraries; i.e., asset flips.

[@Drawesometoons]

Thats no waterfall noise, its the sound effect for people flushing their money down the toilet in that cash shop

[@sparkofcuriousity]

Ah! Indeed!

[@YRahmeier]

i read "scuba" points the first time.

[@wdf70]

I like to think it's all the ladies reacting to Josh's presence in their game. ;)

[@Firepulser]

i know this is a joke but really it was just the waterfalls on the wall behind him. Honestly, JSH is so dense sometimes.

[@Goodmanperson55]

I think a lot of the interface problems probably originate from how they were designed around Asian glyphs (Japanese, Chinese, Korean) and the devs/localisers are too lazy to resize UI assets to accommodate typically longer English words.

[@Fe7Ace]

Stuff being tiny and shoved too hard around the edges usually also caused when the UI is designed for example only with 1080p resolution in mind, and old mate here might be playing with a 2k or 4k monitor? Most old games would look like this at 4k because devs were just like "yeah 1080p is all that matters let's just base our whole UI on pixel dimensions"

[@rolfs2165]

@@Fe7Ace If it's from 2010, it's more like designed with 1024*768 in mind. Maybe 1280*720, if you're lucky. Just look at the window size of the game before he makes it full screen.

[@frogge8495]

I dont know why but the way you used 'glyphs' made me chuckle

[@belstar1128]

@@Fe7Ace 1080p more like 480.

[@sucyshi]

It's not just resizing needed. The UI is designed to look information dense because Chinese characters (which have affected those three languages and countries greatly) are information dense so that's what's aesthetically pleasing to them, unlike how the west tends to like spacing and minimalism.

[@Sleepless.Nights]

Joined the primere at "didn't even step on my head, out of 10" and my expectations are high

[@loydtheliar5659]

Josh i cant stress this enough, watching most of the "Worst MMO Ever?" series, you have become one of my favorite youtubers, idk just wanted to say that somewhere. Feels like watching a big brother rant about online games, which i love!

[@xionkale3688]

who is a hypocrite that does paid advertisement for BS like Perfect World Mobile and calls out a decade old game "WOrsT mMO eVeR"...

[@loydtheliar5659]

@@xionkale3688 at that point in time he had 8k subs and was working a regular job. He's now able to turn down ads and stuff like that without breaking the bank. It's not hypocritical, it's from before he became reliant on being credible. Also the "worst mmo ever" series explicitly is not calling these MMOs the worst of the worst, but is rather a search through all the somewhat niche mmos to find the worst one. He's had many videos where he came out of the game with a very positive experience.

[@uuu12343]

@@xionkale3688 You really pulled out a decade long topic and used that huh...?

[@xionkale3688]

@@uuu12343 thats Decade long? cause i remember seeing that ad about a week ago so idek or care, but my Hypocricy case stays

[@sna1466]

@@xionkale3688 lol so you just don't care about the time or place or where you are or what you're doing? crazy

[@Mushezable]

I don't care how Non-nutritious White Bread is, I will call it my queen and let it step on me.

[@doubtful_seer]

I can’t figure out if this is a reference the the white bread art guy or not and I hate myself for it

[@metrotider5371]

@@doubtful_seer now draw her buying wonderbread

[@grandbean9031]

Now I want an 18+ art of bread stepping on someone's head

[@errortryagainlater4240]

@@metrotider5371 *now draw her buying wonderbread and demolishing a rainforest* 🥵

[@lockhart7813]

One of my oldest friends played this game like a second life for years and years, becoming a well known community member, moderator, leader of several guilds, several maxed out characters, sought after bachelor, etc; Eventually, right before the game died, he sold his account for thousands. This game is forever burned into my brain due to the years spent sitting next to him while playing my own stuff. Wild times, blast from the past.

[@MistressIzayoi]

lmao what was his IGN cause i also played back then LMFAO

[@pyroflare7774]

​@@MistressIzayoiyou got ignored

[@SomeMortyDude]

Josh: mocks glass being in the blacksmithing Me playing skyrim: *cries in glass weapons*

[@RandomNumbers0145674]

'Glass' in the Elder Scrolls is apparently just a colloquial name for Malachite. It's not actually supposed to be glass.

[@PhoenixAriel]

@no or maybe yes i need to replay that game

[@ammagon4519]

@no or maybe yes but Morrowind glasses aren't actual glass as well? I do read somewhere that they mostly grow on volcanic or hot areas, but again still aren't glass.

[@pikapower_kirby]

Not an MMO but Fire Emblem has glass weapons too.

[@heatherharrison264]

Many of the games in the Ultima series have glass swords. They are single use magical weapons; the general principle is that the sword hits extremely hard, doing enough damage for a one shot kill on all but the toughest enemies, but it shatters into worthless bits after doing its grim duty. They are rare, and if available for purchase in shops, very expensive. This naturally caused me to hoard them and seldom if ever use them for their intended purpose. At high level, there are spells that are similarly powerful and act from a distance, so the glass swords tend not to be all that necessary anyway once the party is strong enough to go to the bad places where the big, mean monsters are found.

[@kurovah5475]

"Who needs magic when you have the power of *gun*" lmao

[@Cecilia-ky3uw]

well we have anime characters who can destroy bullets and move faster than bullets or they are invincible to bullets so really........

[@DoctorSpacebar]

@@Cecilia-ky3uw That's when you add more gun. And if that don't work, add even more gun.

[@SpecShadow]

reminds me old Ross Scott (of Freeman's Mind fame) comparing guns to magic

[@radiantray5231]

At first I was like: "I thought this game shut down already." Then you mentioned Suba Games and it all makes sense. I played this game for about 10 mins one time and I uninstalled it because of how bad it was. It still holds the record for the fastest I ever quit a mmorpg to this day. It's is interesting to see this game's combat systems, it's very reminiscent of mmorpgs of it's time.

[@TheTankbus]

I put too much time into this game during beta. Maybe like 6 hours or more a day for a week. To the point I had headaches. After that week I asked wtf I was doing and quit. Guess I was desperate for something over a decade ago with a shit computer and a summer full of nothing

[@slevinchannel7589]

Not funny anymore. Kinda disgusting, tbh. Am i too harsh? I dont think so.

[@bernkastel7438]

@@slevinchannel7589 What are you even going on about? I’m genuinely confused.

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@bernkastel7438 This Video here?? Hello?

[@nikirol4051]

@@slevinchannel7589 Are you saying that the video is not funny? Are you saying that this comment is not funny? What is disgusting about any of this?

[@defaulted9485]

Lucent Heart : "Hey, can I copy your Date Dungeon?" Luna Online Reborn : "Sure but please change a bit so it doesn't look obvious."

[@adm102401]

It be like that

[@datcrazy1038]

Luna online(2009) was before Lucent Heart(2016). Luna Online Reborn is just an update of Luna Online.

[@webserververse5749]

@@datcrazy1038 lucent Heart has had 3 re-releases and is way older than 2016. Still in Open Beta BTW

[@nyanny9729]

Actually, Lucent Heart was released in 2008. Not 2016, that was only the year it was added to Steam.

[@nyanny9729]

At the time, the MMOs were all pretty much similar to each other. Wouldn't say they copied from one another at all.

[@ScrumPMC]

I hear the sunken cost fallacy, but what about the sunken social fallacy? The fact that you don’t want to give up on a crap game because the relationships you build are strong and varied.

[@k_taaro]

I think that's called peer pressure

[@Neuroshimi]

That's also sunken cost. Just not monetary but social.

[@RariettyC]

I feel like that's a lot less of an issue now than it was when this game was new, as most people who play MMOs nowadays can easily just use Discord to connect outside the game rather than relying on in-game social features

[@imasspeons]

I believe it's "sunk-cost fallacy".

[@ashleyreynolds8961]

I get that, but I mean you guys could all move to another, better game... or write each other letters (yes, I do know that this most likely will show you how old I really am ;p) ... you guys could pretty much find another way to keep those friendships alive... but yeah, no I get what you mean!

[@LumyTheQueen]

I played Lucent Heart back when it was originally made and the biggest appeal was the socialising and the group dancing, because it was the only innovation in the game. And yeah, the group dancing was seriously fun and a nice way to make online friends while listening to cheesy pop music.

[@DaMy2345]

I played it until maybe 2 years ago from time to time. I always thought it was a terrible game but ended up going back to it to goof around and find new friends lol. Sad how they let it die, making custom dances and joining dance events was pretty fun.

[@TiberianFiend]

By "dancing," do you mean stepping on guys' heads while they call you "queen"?

[@grandbean9031]

@@TiberianFiend wait that's not what dancing is? I have been going to "dancing" lessons for years now!

[@belstar1128]

Sounds like something i would make fun of.

[@1sennacherib]

Remember once upon a time, group dancing in the original Guild Wars was a big thing too in Lion's Arch.

[@Ponifex]

3:10 Bit late to comment on this, but several ancient KMMOs tend to implement some sort of password/PIN requirement when accessing your storage/inventory/whatever, to prevent tampering from other players when stepping afk in a PC bang. These sorts of preventative measures are almost always entirely unnecessary for the vast majority of an NA/EU playerbase, since PC cafes/bangs aren't anywhere near as popular or commonplace in those regions, yet they're often included when the game gets imported overseas due to sheer laziness from the publisher. (For example, the current-day Global client for Maplestory _still_ requires a PIN input every time you select a character, access your storage, adjust your V-Matrix, buy/sell Meso via the Meso Market, etc.) So yes, the devs of Lucent Heart actually thought people would be playing this thing out in public. Amazing.

[@lamlelamatsiliza8550]

I still wouldn't play this on my own home.

[@dustydew]

Did not know this! Thanks, very informative

[@ashleyreynolds8961]

Learn something new every day!

[@ElysetheEevee]

@@lamlelamatsiliza8550 Don't shit where you sleep/eat, eh?

[@Nightweaver1]

Literally zero people in the US use internet cafes anymore. I'm pretty sure those disappeared sometime in the early 2000s.

[@crossveilkyt]

AHHH HE SAID IT! HE SAID THE THING ABOUT the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV that has a free trial, and includes the entirety of A Realm Reborn AND the award-winning Heavensward expansion up to level 60 with no restrictions on playtime!

[@sora8711]

It's a pretty cringe circlejerk.

[@jhalilxvii]

Impossible.

[@kelnhide]

@@sora8711 it's a meme

[@sora8711]

@@kelnhide A meme that some people unironically think isn't and people are just literal walking talking billboards for the game.

[@Frankenllama]

@@sora8711 you must be fun at parties.

[@ElijahG98]

Pretty upset that I didn't get to see the "step on me emote".

[@leokommadant938]

yeah.. then no one is playing it to have that kind of emote :/ i felt like something interesting for social interaction lol.

[@deliriouszora]

From my experience, anything that try to add a dating like aspects while also trying to pull in a kid player base, usually have a lot of nasty people that use it.

[@leolor9328]

Ahh yes 12 year old me's favorite type of game, a dating sim disguised as an mmo

[@slevinchannel7589]

Its fluffed up.

[@HaplessOne]

Lmao this is when you could go into RuneScape and see dudes sitting there like "looking for gf" 😂

[@jamaluddinkhalifa8371]

@@HaplessOne *buying gf, 10gp

[@finallychangedmyname3614]

@@jamaluddinkhalifa8371 they do be expensive

[@damienthonk1506]

@@slevinchannel7589 *Flyffed up. I really hope someone gets my joke lol

[@itsprivate3061]

a morpg where i can fulfill my daily depraved quota of getting stepped on? GOTY

[@skyesfury8511]

There's a "hand holding" emote?! How is this allowed? Anywhere?! LEWD!!!

[@ericb3157]

reminds me of "perfect world", where it's possible for any male character to PICK UP any female character and carry her around! the female character DOES have to agree to it, fortunately.

[@raven75257]

@@ericb3157 I dunno, this seems weirdly wholesome to me

[@franciscopereira5760]

@@ericb3157 unfortunately

[@yuurina5092]

@@ericb3157 that is weirdly wholesome

[@MontyDotharl]

Finally worked in the meme about how the award winning MMO Final Fantasy XIV Online has a free trial that includes the entire base game and the award winning Heavensward expansion, up to level 60 with no restrictions on playtime, huh?

[@TheDeadGunslinger]

Who needs magic, when you have the power of gun.

[@SwayRod836]

(Pow pow) No world, you put your hands up! -Dr. Zoidberg

[@JustSkram]

I cast GUN

[@TomatoCarrotSoup]

I interrupt your spell by casting level two Assault Weapons Ban!

[@JustSkram]

@@TomatoCarrotSoupYou fool, you fell for my trap. I CAST CONSEALED CARRY

[@pixelettee]

Wizards with Guns

[@grim566]

so ironically this was the MMO where I met my fiance almost 10 years ago and sometimes we go back and play it. Edit: Did notice Josh closed the window where you pick up skills after changing to warrior and I had a chuckle when he said they don't give you skills think he may have just been rapid clicking on quests

[@Cecilia-ky3uw]

Im cringing it sounds weird

[@belstar1128]

Damm i should have played this.

[@grim566]

@@belstar1128 it was one of those things where we both went. "Lol no one does this thing" turns out, we both did and its been a fun time since. Recently moved out of state and with all thats been happening. They're finally able to come visit

[@navatheramenguy3127]

That's.... Weird.... Wholesome but weird

[@Sammy-S]

Weirdly some of my fondest mmo memories are of playing this about 10 years ago. The communities in this game used to be so good

[@hiramsiqueiros9018]

Plot twist : taquito bandito is the ceo of suba games.

[@deadmeat5150butt]

And thus it comes full circle.

[@Ghost_Moonz]

Did anyone notice that he was more annoyed then usual lol

[@Todesschleicher]

I was thinking "this series might end soon, he's REALLY fed up with this crap"

[@nebufabu]

"i would play the crap out of an MMO where you beat your opponent by summoning benches" City of Heroes, from beyond the shutdown: It's random junk, from pieces of statues to cars to whatever, but... Gravity control can do that. ADD: And then he goes on about interesting city layouts...

[@nervsouly]

I think you can play it again on the Homecoming servers unless they closed down. I went there to get my fond memories back but it just wasn't the same as back then, so I quit again and stopped following the news. Sometimes it's better to just keep your memories as illusion of perfection and not test the truth of your sentiment years later.

[@ericb3157]

reminds me of several stories where D&D players acquired magical folding/unfolding BOATS and used them as weapons...

[@nebufabu]

@@nervsouly Homecoming (and so on, there are multiple servers now with different forks of the leaked code ) are still, technically pirated software, pirated software is bad, m'kay... Don't use pirated software, m'kay... (Homecoming specifically asked not to record or stream any gameplay.) That said, City still has that energy it did back then, at least for me. Revisiting all the golden oldies (Faultline, Mercedes Sheldon, ITF...) was something I always wanted to do.

[@TheMichigami]

@@nervsouly Homecoming is still alive and well and doing their own development for updates and new costume pieces, as are several others. We Have Cake, Rebirth, and several other all have their own branched variations of the game now, some servers run it as close to the "vanilla live" experience as possible, others have created new archetypes and costume pieces and powers and run customized setups with boosted xp just for the giggles of it. If you look around you can probably find a server that fits your play style and has a decent community. They're all unofficial and rogue and will forever be such despite a few people trying to talk a big game about negotiating with NcSoft to create official servers, so enjoy it while ya can (if you like there's even standalone versions to play singleplayer people have built you can find, but it loses a lot of the fun of all the madness other people bring to the game)

[@TheMichigami]

speaking of interesting city layouts, whatever drunk sadist designed the rogue isles maps specifically to punish people for playing redside by getting them endlessly lost between point a and point b....

[@Alikaoz]

As someone with a younger sister, yes. She likes these things and so do her friends, so there's a market for games that allow for (E)RP.

[@ThankYouCityOfficial]

"As you can see I've followed the traditional death ritual of being buggered by a plant while clipping my entire top half under the ground." I burst out laughing, which was awkward because I was in a very quiet and full office

[@LikaLaruku]

I wanted to recommend a Chinese browser MMO that literally plays itself to the point where it actually talks to NPCs & accepts quest without you, but for the life of me I cannot remember what it was called. It could be "Kingdom Rift" by R2Games.

[@lyranoto6264]

Oh my god, R2 games. I used to play Crystal Saga religiously on Kongregate as a kid because it was all my white MacBook could handle. Was like 2010.

[@bernkastel7438]

@@lyranoto6264 I used to play Slayaway Camp on Kongregate

[@onomatopoeia7505]

You mean League of Angels? Because that indeed plays itself.

[@belstar1128]

Why. do. they. make. games. that. play. themselves. who. would. enjoy. that.

[@HolyGoddessMotherAnne]

@@belstar1128 put in a comma as christ that's nonsensical as a sentence, the people enjoying such a game are ones out there difficult to find or locate but r probably people who are like into their idle games too much.

[@rafaelbordoni516]

As a hobbyist developer, here is some technical insights about some points you mentioned: 1:26 If this is 2010, they probably made the launcher to fit a 2010 monitor resolution and never updated it. I'm pretty sure the whole UI was built to fit smaller resolutions and no one bothered to update it, hence why it looks so small in-game. 8:41 This is how view distance works, actually. They increase the fog intensity the farther the thing is to have the transition between skybox and 3D mesh to be less jarring. What was happening is that at far render distance, the game was rendering all the terrain behind the mountains, which sounds stupider but it's how stuff works if you don't optimize with care. There's this technique called occlusion culling that stop stuff that's behind other stuff from rendering. This is usually done by the engine, but given it's 2010 I doubt they do it, the models are low poly and the textures are low definition for a reason. What? The music cycle being broken? No idea. The sound designer is probably kept in a basement, together with the VFX artist who made those purple flames mismatched with the feet. To their credits, they might have made stuff work back at launch, but then at some point, when they updated something (cash shop items, holiday events, new technologies) someone unwittingly messed these up and didn't knew.

[@cenciende9401]

In 2010 I was using a 2560x1440 monitor, I still use 1440p to this day (just 5120x1440 instead) designing for 1024x768 monitors was already stupid in 2010

[@Ithirahad]

Chinese and Japanese writing systems have whole syllables or words packed into one character; Korean at least combines a consonant and vowel into the space of one letter. They're both a lot more information-dense than English's janky implementation of the Roman alphabet. It's understandable that the UIs end up a bit undersized when they obviously aren't too worried about the quality of their localizations.

[@grandbean9031]

"This game has lovers emote tab" Ah, so they"re yabe "It has an emote with a girl standing on a boy's head" Ah so they're cultured "That says get stepped on by your queen, did you like it?" Ah so they're cringe.

[@RaphielShiraha64]

kinky

[@richardlam171]

With every upload, we get closer to a Maplestory video

[@hyperionnova2854]

I’m really hoping he covers MapleStory at some point... a lot of the problems in these Eastern MMOs are especially prevalent there, the only difference is that MS came out way earlier

[@TheResidence.mp4]

I'm waiting for the day

[@SkySumisu]

It's weird to think that old MapleStory had the same types of problemas as this type of game (e.g. being a "Potion-chugging" game, having low HP restore rate, being a slogfest, being punished for leveling up before updating your class, etc), but they eventually solved them and now have a plethora of other issues (Most of the maps being empty, ther enot being a reason to do PQ's anymore, nor most quests, and that the game only truly begins after level 200).

[@zibix4562]

@@SkySumisu saddens me too because i have a ton of good memories from old maplestory(when zakum was the big boss and ludi clocktower was the shit too)

[@Konpekikaminari]

@@zibix4562 back in the day where little ol' me would've stand there, mouth agape as those stone-hatted elites passed me by

[@Darkshadow715]

Random comment not about the game: It's crazy how much that list has grown since your refusal to move from a single slide for the patreon list. It's absolutely mind blowing, to me, the amount of effort/funds people will put in to try and make someone do something. Like your content is great but it's also a genius tactic on your hand and I love to see it being used. I'm certain there's a decent sized chunk of those supporters who are just BUSTING AT THE BRIM to say they were the one that pushed you past your limits. They were the one that forced your hand. They made Josh Strife Hayes give in and do something he said he wouldn't do. Yet you strike me as a person who never relents and it keeps my interest piqued and ready to come back just to see how far it's gone. It really is just a treat for everyone. Bravo sir. As a side note, I also really dig the Worst MMO Ever? Series and your out of 10 ratings. Those also keep me coming back :)

[@richardpreston7333]

Binge watching this series means you get to watch Josh's patreon list expand and shrink to ridiculous proportions at the same time

[@kmdgaming6039]

The funniest part is that I would have never seen or heard of these games had I not watched your channel. Because my BS alarm would go off like crazy if I found them myself.

[@ded2thaworld963]

Him: makes fun of glass blacksmithing Me playing skyrim: 😖

[@WolfCoder]

Yeah but at least in Skyrim its not the first thing you learn and it explains how it isn't the glass you think if you read the light armor forging book

[@Kawamura2]

It's a fantasy game. You can make weapons out of magical ice, I forget what it's called, so glass shouldn't be the thing balked at lol

[@FhtagnCthulhu]

That FF meme hit me. (and yes, everyone should know that the award winning MMORPG...)

[@michaelo5665]

What's ff?

[@SchlauSchafe]

@@michaelo5665 final fantasy 14

[@michaelo5665]

@@SchlauSchafe it was a joke but thank you. I truly cant bring myself to play any of the modern final fantasy games. Maybe I'll try the newest one since the protagonist doesnt look like a k pop star.

[@Esvald]

I remember randomly installing this while browsing mmos on steam and I lasted like a week or so. I actually got to talk to one of the town ildlers, a super chill guy who invited me to his guild and we talked about the game briefly. Still, the actual gameplay was so damn boring I quit a few days after.

[@sucyshi]

The information cramming is a cultural thing. Chinese characters, which can be found in pre-hangul Korean (which most of these mmos come from), Japanese, and obviously the Chinese languages, are information dense. So apps, websites, etc from these countries made for these countries tend to be visually information dense as an aesthetic

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

That's a very interesting point.

[@jkbscopes1233]

Someone needs to make an RPG called seatomancer where your skills change and upgrade the type of seating you can use,

[@ericb3157]

reminds me of the "culinaromancer", a villain in Runescape 2. he's part of the "recipe for disaster" quest line.

[@yawninglion1677]

That waterfall noise unlocked some weird distant memory of mine involving a website or game with chooseable sound-effects, including a waterfall noise. I have no idea what game or website it might've been, and I'm going insane. It wasn't just a stock sound-effects website because I was choosing them for a purpose.

[@Kafj302]

You need to start turning names vertical to fill in the space between the horizontal names and organizing the names by length. Just absolutely fill the patreon screen.

[@Sleepless.Nights]

14:58 "I just think it's neat"

[@anarchagustus5046]

holy shit is that a simpsons reference

[@YogTezcatSothoth]

having the queen step on your head is the best part of the game. You really aren't giving the game a fair chance if you don't try it.

[@Freakymonify]

Josh is like the spiritual successor of TotalBiscuit, his unofficial protégé. Amazing content, keep it up.

[@yami2828]

I miss total biscuit

[@ino_mation]

Wow.. Okay, yeah, this. You've finally hit the nail as to why I kept coming back to Josh's content in the last couple of weeks, first thinking "Oh, what's that? Okay, I'll watch it, not subscribe though", and then... just kept doing so, and not subscribing, because I was like, I *kinda* like the guy, but I dunno... am I going to stay interested enough beyond just watching a few videos? Then, I saw this comment, alright, I'm subscribing, because, yes, you're right.

[@prototype102010]

I'm late... sorry. But I was thinking this the other day while watching one of Josh's videos on 40K. Just, MAD nostalgia from how he presented it, things he said, etc.

[@Chaosfly10]

Yeah, Its actually really refreshing and great. I like that his critiques of the games are actual ones instead of just nitpicking everything, As well as naming all the positives and negatives without being overly generic about it. Very Totalbiscuit-like indeed Sure do miss him though, I grew up watching him

[@CeruleanChurch]

I feel like this is the episode where Josh is the absolute MOST passive aggressive

[@nobodyfromnowwhere7510]

I just had the image of this in my head. Picture your old days playing FFXI - Remember all those times you were dead and shouting for a raise? Well, in this game, you stand by the roadside and beg people to come make out with you. You know, so you can continue your adventure as a mighty hero....

[@alloounou6900]

Happy and sad emotions for battle abilities is actually really immersive. So immersive, in fact, players used their immense amounts of sad IRL to distance themselves from this game.

[@fatrobin72]

UI wise I imagine it has the issue of being designed for resolutions that these days are more commonly seen on watches...

[@b_wb1056]

Ooh I remember this game! The issues with the small UI and text might be because of your screen resolution, a lot of these older low-budget mmos have troubles dealing with high res in Windows 10. I'd figure it would look normal on a crappy old laptop, funnily enough. You'd have to change it in the properties tabs of the game's executable.

[@Tsarius11]

I feel like there needs to be a distinction between game developers and game publishers. Suba didn't make Lucent Heart, they published it. I know publishers can be blamed for the cash shop, they typically can't be blamed for the world design though? I just think it would be good to add a "developed" or "designed by" line in your script.

[@aetherwizard3218]

I tried this game once and made the mistake of playing a healer. They clearly intend for the guys to all take knight and the girls to take the mage. My only 3 player interactions were male knights who after just randomly healing them and starting to run off was told that they're not (slurs for gay people) and insulted for healing them. The problem with a "dating mmo" is that everyone thinks that every small interaction is an attempt to have sex with them.

[@franklywell1539]

Does this one have date dungeons too?

[@aniruns2156]

Yeah

[@zMiiChy]

Oh boy, that's a very suspicious thumbnail.

[@smoothboy21]

Big love for you man.. for having the Legacy of Kain series installed..

[@TheMrFishnDucks]

I remember seeing art and the character images. I had no idea it was an actual game...it looks terrible. Nice video. Keep up the good work.

[@Avigorus]

Suggestion regarding the name slides: Don't just organize them alphabetically, organize them by name size first, so you can have narrower columns take up less space then wider ones, instead of just doing it haphazardly. Granted would take more time, but would make them more legible lol

[@ErwinPommel]

They're not ordered alphabetically, though. They're ordered by length of patronage. Oldest patrons at the top left, newest at the bottom right.

[@Avigorus]

@@ErwinPommelOh gotcha I'd missed that

[@tomekd789]

Ah yes, another coverup for a shady and possibly illegal dating site.

[@goreobsessed2308]

Lol

[@hybridlawify]

oh, lucent heart...... the fondest memory of this game that i have is the fact i was in the beta for it, and i had a lot of fun talking to my fellow beta players. in retrospect it really wasn't the best or most interesting game though (especially since i fell out of playing it within the first month of its release, lol) but at least i can say i was in the beta for it

[@diersteinjulien6773]

That "sitting on bench" pose.... that's the Kuso Miso bench pose. And I hate myself for having instantly recognized it

[@foureyeddragon00]

All of these bring back so many memories of hours spent playing games like FlyFF. Looking back now I’m so glad that I’ve moved on to so much better games.

[@sadmann4222]

Yeah there was a period of time where there was a new low budget MMOs were seemingly coming every other week. Fun times during the late 2000s, early 2010s.

[@Jasina85]

Always fun to watch you break the game down and analyze it in these videos. Kinda hoping one day you'll do an episode on the Eternal Lands - it's an old indie MMO I remember playing excessively with my friends back in school. Curious what you'd have to say about it.

[@MoonTiger88]

God bless your heart for the FFXIV Free Trial meme, the whole community just embraced that shit. (Jokes aside, do you actually have a FC on Omega for the community? I'd gladly join, my kitty is there)

[@Bridgeofaudio]

Might I suggest Angel’s Online? It’s not… super bad iirc, but I also haven’t played it in literally years.

[@jerehirvonen7075]

These were the days where every new upcoming mmo was exciting. I remember hyping up for months for this back in 2010? or 2011. We even made a guild before the game launched. The game was ok back then but didn't really keep me hooked for that long

[@philipnickels9441]

That "dumbest feature ever" of an inventory 2nd password is very similar to the bank pin in runescape lol infact many player have asked for the ability to lock your inventory like your bank since their 2fa is a joke.... hmmmmm thonking face.

[@mister-x2]

Josh is one "AAAAASSS!" scream away to become the next AVGN

[@estefaniac.1011]

Let's not forget that the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV is not only a great game but also a better place to meet people and they generally won't step on you (unless you go to Limsa Lominsa, but what you do with cat/bunnygirls hopefully away from prying eyes is up to you) 😄 Good to see you're a fellow Chaos datacenter dweller, Josh ❤️

[@pyroflare7774]

I play that but I'm so burned out from it

[@scorpion07070]

I think a lot of foreign games are simply translated "as-is" and any graphical assets like window sizes aren't changed from the original, fitting, japanese ones. Often the japanese characters take far less space than western script and for some reason they either don't, or can't, change the font size. Cheap ports don't employ all-new graphics designers. Just translators and voice actors (maybe).

[@EsailiaLightheart]

17:42 I heard a completely different line in my head than the one he used. "And the first thing they try to sell me is glass, because someone played Elder Scrolls."

[@TheThirdDaySH]

Ever accidentally click on a video, and then the first line just HOOKS you?

[@marcusalm7350]

I just started FFXIV, after Jesse Cox did a video on it a little while ago (and a whole bunch of other KZbin channels before that). You don't need to tell me to get it anymore Universe!

[@KollinsPlays]

There are a lot of things I could put on my list of traits for the ideal partner. A penchant for really bad MMOs that look child friendly but have excessive adult content and monetization is not one of them. (edit: autocorrect correction correction. Thanks @DarthZ01)

[@DarthZ01]

Penchant for them. Perchance is like maybe. Or like 'by chance'.

[@KollinsPlays]

@@DarthZ01 Autocorrect is the worst.

[@ferret990]

Would you not passionate kiss the homies before running into battle?

[@marcusalm7350]

I'm going into battle, I require your most passionate kiss!

[@philidor9657]

This is the one series on youtube I look forward to every single video. Keep it up Josh

[@andersonwatch9075]

Lol those animal sound effects are so good damn loud that I paused the video wondering if there was something in my room

[@ShelBelSapphire]

Ah man, The Rasmus. There's a band I really haven't listened to since highschool...

[@Dreznin]

I heard what he said and was like, "whoa now, don't go bagging on The Rasmus!" Then again, I think it's been almost ten years since I last binged their music, but still...

[@zaramortar]

reverse JOJO character, you summon a sit instead of a stand.

[@notrod5341]

You have made my day

[@NovaDragon97]

Every video that list of Patrons grows. You love to see it.

[@seankkg]

Wouldn't mind the option to enter a PIN every time I open my FFXIV inventory for the first time after logging in. Not a bad safety measure for a number of reasons.

[@redrum1190]

Lol this game made me a bunch of friends that I still talk to today, and the girl cupid matched me with we still talk and play a bunch of different games together. I played this hardcore like 10 years ago.

[@sandiblack5072]

You get a power up for kissing? "No homo, bro, I just need the power boost!"

[@themanyouwanttobe]

5:29 It's like one of those pictures drawn by schizophrenics that deeply disturb you because a healthy brain becomes dissonant between what seems like it should be recognizable but can't actually be processed.

[@SknCommonLisper]

1:26 - As a programmer, this hits home. Honestly I don't know why we are shit at making UIs, we just are ( as a general broad statement ). Why so many of us don't even bother and instead just stick with command line based stuff.

[@Mir_Teiwaz]

Part of me expected you to say that you made a second account to passionately kiss with every 30 minutes to make combat less awful.

[@tvctaswegia497]

As a developer that launcher looks hardcoded and they're dumping logs, so no real effort was spent there. The ui layout looks like some lazy translation/migration perhaps. The instant level up looks to be a cheap game stat check - how many people who installed the game actually played it for more than a minute. The rest of your points are excellent and rage-inducing as always. Well done.

[@jackmaney4276]

Hooboy, if you thought the internet was a wild west in the early 2010's, you should've seen it in the late 90's!

[@birdgvee4982]

Me looking through Josh‘s game library. „Lara Croft, Left for dead, RPGs…, Aww, he has Never Alone! I played that. I don‘t know anyone who has played that.“

[@Maverynthia]

Once again, Suba Games didn't "work on", "develop", or make the game. THey are just the publisher. Playcoo seems to be the one that made the game here. Also for the lay people at home. It does not take any more coding to put the animations on the female avatar. Just click model, click skeleton, click bind. Also Find NPC with Auto run is an assessability feature

[@Razeluxe01]

actually, Lucent Heart was marketed as a dating sim mmorpg. So that's why those features and tabs and whatnot are there. That was literally the purpose. If I remember correctly, you could dance with your date partner/spouse as a mini-game for buffs as well. Also, if I remember correctly, once you hit a certain point you were given some weird zodiac armor form that buffed your stats and whatnot. Was pretty cool at the time. Also, you got a level up box for every 5 levels that constantly gave you better gear. So you were supposed to be demolishing those wolves. Lol. of course, the level up boxes made crafting and whatnot 100% useless. In fact, you could craft like, 10 different weapons every crafting tier that all had the exact same stats. They just looked different. It was weird and pointless.

[@heebusjeebus64xxjivo70]

This MMORPG is for that one kid in high school who wears a wolf tail, growls at random passerby & runs with his arms stretched back yet for some reason he always has a date & is always biting them.

[@whtiequillBj]

I thought the conclusion was going to be "password protected inventory, out of 10".

[@Arkhavist_S]

Ah yes, the next installment of the Tinder MMO.

[@mirridianthebold2688]

Oh my god! The Final Fantasy mene broke me. I can't escape!

[@sasuke1productions]

The bird tweeting sound in the open field sounds just the same as getting a whisper from blade & soul and it confused the hell out of me for a sec lmao

[@angustheterrible3149]

I'd really like to see you do one of these for Mabinogi after seeing this. It's a pretty famous/notorious nexon anime game.