WRC HYBRID 🔋 EXPLAINED | Puma 🐈‍⬛ Hybrid Rally1 Powertrain ⚙️ Explained |

Tim Jackson, M-Sport Ford Puma Hybrid Rally1 Lead Development Engineer, explains the layout and technology behind the 2022 Ford Puma Hybrid Rally1 powertrain.
The video shows the all new Compact Dynamics battery and and motor generator unit that is used to power the Puma into an exciting and totally new era for the FIA World Rally Championship.
#MSPORTERS #FordPerformance #WRC #Puma #Hybrid #Rally1 #Ford #FordRacing #Rally #RallyCar

[@ProtonFilms_Mark]

Finally, a proper demonstration.

[@19ZORES72]

Very good explanation, thank you. I am very sad of using the electric mode in the servicepark. For me almost 100% of the experience at the servicepark is linked with the sound of the cars. IT is so impressive when they go slow and can almost not bear down their power. Goose bumps guaranteed!

[@MrQmie]

The idiots of the FIA don't get it. If the sound/noise dissapear the emotions are gone and motorsport will die. Full electric motorsport will be a niche product.

[@slothmageminigun7908]

Y’all have made me realized that rally fans have literal lizard brains.

[@markos8400]

Gotta love how... pointless (to be polite) FIA ideas are. But thanks for a very nice explainer video M-Sport!

[@patrickkennedy2533]

Looking at the cars i saw the side scoops and i wondered if the cars were mid engine , now it makes sense as to what they were cooling

[@MrLipp24]

Been waiting for this!

[@barsorrro]

I find one thing difficult to understand. In a "normal" rally car, the driver controls the car by judging the grip levels and knowing, by experience, what sort of pull (torque) will be generated in a given gear when they press throttle. That's because the engine performance stays roughly the same. Now, with these "boost events", how is the driver to know the amount of pull that the full depression of the gas pedal will give him? Will they have a special "boost available" indicator?

[@bett431]

Now the question with the boost events is: Will the FIA set them up so that efficiency of the whole car will really make a difference, or will they be so tame that you can drive a full 40km stage and everyone will have the exact same power on every single corner.

[@justanotheraveragejoe]

The biggest news in WRC regards the eco aspect is the introduction of bio fuel which isn't being talked about at all. If this fuel really is carbon neutral or close to it then surely the electric element is totally pointless. Also give the electric system gives more power at times not replacing power that would normally be generated by the ICE then its not adding to sustainability. Surely the production of components that don't improve carbon footprint are themselves environmentally wasteful.

[@barsorrro]

The electric system adds to sustainability in that you're harvestig power while braking, which means you're getting back some of the kinetic energy that otherwise would have been wasted (granted, only a very small portion of it will be harvested, probably). I'm not sold on the bio-fuels side. This is hardly of any environment significance, since it's not the source of the combustible that affects the planet, but the very process of burning it in order to produce the energy.

[@justanotheraveragejoe]

Thought the concept of carbon neutrality was that you consume carbon in the manufacturing process to offset the amount of carbon that is produced during the consumption of the said product. Perhaps 80%+ less CO2 emissions is not enough. But let's not fool ourselves that electric tech isn't without impacts. Yes agree it will harvest power under braking, but as a former rally driver, predictable of brake feel is key so hope harvesting is smooth, but anyhow the power harvested is used to give more power not replace ICE power (so no efficieny savings) and I'm not sure the WRC cars really need more power (I'm old enough to have watched Group B in the flesh). I guess if we believe that there should be no CO2 etc. produced (either directly or indirectly) as a result of activities such as this then perhaps they will need to cease completely. But another issue with the approach here is that making everyone use the same motor/battery unit does not allow manufacturers to showcase their own hybrid tech so why would others bother entering. If Ford, Hyundai or Toyota promote their hybrid tech on the back of these cars then it will be a bit misleading as its FIA electric tech, not theirs.

[@ereisenheim9896]

@@barsorrro "since it's not the source of the combustible that affects the planet" Yes it is! Yes it is if you are talking about climate change/global warming. In one way you "pump*" carbon dioxide from the ground to the atmosphere, in the other way you "recycle**" the one already present in the atmosphere. * through chemical reactions that occur burning fossil fuels.. ** in the case of carbon neutral fuels.

[@barsorrro]

@@ereisenheim9896 Well, it doesn't quite work this way, I think. The main problem is the presence of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere... period :). It is of next to no importance what the source of it is. You are not really recycling much when you employ plants to produce bio-fuels, which are destined to... put the carbon dioxide back in the atmosphere. You want to have plants (trees) capture the CO2 and keep it. And you want to produce energy in a way that doesn't involve burning stuff up. Obviously, bio-fuels are sort of better than fossils, but that's definitely no environmental sustainability in the long term. Not to mention the fact that there's absolutely no chance to produce sufficient amounts of them to provide the needs of our civilization in any significant way. They are basically only good for publicity stunts like this: "we'll run a bunch of cars on petrol that doesn't come from fossils -- we're so eco-friendly, yay!"

[@ereisenheim9896]

@@barsorrro The whole discussion was about sustainability of the sport, not humankind. If we look at the vehicle propulsion aspect of it, then they would be correct to use your last sentence, since eco-friendliness doesn't imply any sort of environmental salvation, it just means that it doesn't worsen the situation. It would be sustainable too, since producing a relative small amount of fuel wouldn't deplete natural resources. I think you are confusing terms and phenomena while being generally correct about the things you said. It doesn't help that, as it seams, you want WRC to save the world. 😅 Using carbon neutral fuels IS CO2 recycling: the amount that has been removed from atmosphere during production process (be it biological or synthetic) is exactly the same that is emitted during combustion. Continuing on the waste disposal analogy, capturing and storing away CO2 would be the complete opposite of recycling, it would be like dumping it in a landfill (but of course in this case it would be a good thing).

[@LBPreviews]

What an unbelievable video.

[@Ginbaubabe]

Keep saying hybrids and EVs are a red herring that kills motoring rather than prolonging it. Reduce the weight limit by 100kg and you save more energy than running a full EV rally car

[@fofo1999tcs]

Great job....hoping developmement during season will be enought to keep competitors behind !!!

[@hannibalsmith7297]

excellent mr tim

[@mtsproduction29]

Can’t wait to see Rally1 cars 🤩

[@Wainster]

Great video guys!! So, does this mean the fuel tank can be smaller/lighter to offset the Hybrid technology? If the cars have to be driven in a way to lift-off to be able to allow the next boost phase, then this could allow less fuel usage? Or was the engine as it was, already very efficient when the gas pedal was released? Just curious. Good luck, hopefully the season will be really kind to you.

[@bretsimpson9890]

Engines cut fule completely when of the throttle

[@matthewbattenfelder1748]

I like that there’s experimenting going on, there will always be growth.

[@RallyeRacin9]

I'm only interested in the competition and want to see the fastest driver win. Not that one with the car, who has the fewest problems in an experiment!

[@barsorrro]

@@RallyeRacin9 Well, to everyone according to their tastes. I happen to be that sort of motorsports fan who thinks that technological progress is an inalienable element of motorsport. It's always been about both the man and the machine. There are plenty of other sports where it's purely about human vs human rivalry.

[@steveelrino1339]

with no center diff, how can they use the handbrake? Push clutch too?

[@Starmenca]

Seb et Isabelle, RMC 2022 first . "c' mon Puma "' attack :-)

[@szymon4x4turbo]

I don't understand. How MGU is connected with rear differential or shaft?

[@jamdc2000]

Good luck this season guys

[@kurtluby1494]

Another solution to a problem that doesn’t exist

[@Sweaty__Sheep]

Without a centre diff, how does power vary between the front and rear?

[@lophilip]

it looks like there will be not varying torque levels between the front and back.

[@savejeff15]

i love that electric is comming to WRC, but why add this event thing? it kinda feels like a game. I want maximum rally, no games, no "fun features". Just let the driver/team figure out what the best/efficient strategy is to use the electric power. that would also be more useful for road use. I don't remember having boost events on the road

[@Sheleg_Alexandr]

мне одному интересно сколько там останется энергии после зарядки на сервисе и далее 5км города, старта СУ, еще 5км, еще одного старта СУ и еще 5км и это все на батарейке 3,9кВт под мотором в 100кВт. Пусть даже из 100кв в городе будет задействовано под ограничителем 30кВт(40лс) на батарейке в 3,9 это всего 7,8 минут на 15км города за 3 секции по 5(115км/ч средняя), т.е. это невозможно без рекуперации в остальное время, а это потеря мощности на СУ + в остальном городе надо ехать на повышенных оборотах(привет экологам). Уже жду случаи, когда кому то не хватит зарядки на эти 5 км до сервиса. Гонка из WRC превращается в конку кто больше зарядит батарейку. Возможно я что то не понимаю, поправьте.

[@hardcoreep]

Great video. Adds too much complication to the sport, but that's just me. What about safety?

[@wayne997gbro]

Everybody thinking doing electricity clean most of it comes with more emissions then it would be just driving the car purely am petrol the world's gone mad

[@theovermeersch9367]

Regen on liaison... does this mean they will consume more fuel then before on liaison?

[@RallyeRacin9]

I asked myself the same. He talked about regeneration when braking, but do they really additionally use the electric motor to brake the car? I think this is very difficult on a rallye special stage with inconsistent conditions. Maybee they only regen on the liasion or they simply charge the battery useing the petrol engine!

[@bn880]

It's likely, especially as some liaison sections are very short.

[@sen_ex]

@@bn880 they're not always short, didn't Monte for example used to have a 300km one? Or has that been removed for this year? Still doesn't seem very "eco-friendly" though, and there's no engineering incentive for new manufacturers to join either by the looks of it.

[@bn880]

@@sen_ex I said some, this means not all.

[@barsorrro]

@@RallyeRacin9 My understanding is that the regen braking is not very strong, but that might actually be okay for slippery surfaces (by which I mean any loose stuff), so we shall see. It will definitely be a challenge for both the engineers and the drivers to come up with solutions and techniques to ensure that regen braking covers as much as possible of all instances where the car needs to be slowed down.

[@anidiotinaracingcar4874]

Such a shame the audio was so bad :-(

[@marfrandema1884]

5 speed dogbox and not centre diff. Basically a 40.000 euro yaris GR has a better awd system costing 960.000 euro less. Also the battery got the same capacity of a 2012 toyota prius (4kWh). Still thanks Msport for these vids

[@bn880]

More importantly no Paddle shifter. F

[@anggasatya69]

It's weird the M Sport said wrong thing. The center diff is still there. It's utterly impossible to do tarmac stage without it. It just no longer adjustable to fine tune the power distribution according yo the stages. It fixed at 50:50 front and rear without any means to change it

[@marfrandema1884]

@@anggasatya69 No more centre diff

[@anggasatya69]

@@marfrandema1884 nope, the center diff is still there and that's why the presenter was wrong. What no longer allowed was active center diff that has adjustable power distribution

[@marfrandema1884]

@@anggasatya69 WRC TECHNICAL REGULATIONS ARTICLE 604: DIFFERENTIEL CENTRAL / CENTRE DIFFERENTIAL Différentiel central Interdit. Centre differential Forbidden.

[@wheelygood1754]

With no center diff, anyone know how the car can do a handbrake turn?

[@simonrook5743]

I’m betting it does have a centre diff of some sort, just not the fully controlled one that was there before.

[@williamrainbow4115]

A clutch

[@RallyeRacin9]

Shouldn't the driver now at any time how much power he request when he push the pedal? Especially in rallying! Monte on asphalt, snow, ice and the driver gets a boost in the wrong situation? I'm curious whether the drivers may actually say when the hybrid system leads to an off or the poor excuses for it.

[@bn880]

My understanding is it will typically be deployed at WOT. So when the driver feels gripped up enough and the initial engagement we can assume will be the same each time.

[@juanjosefraga9310]

I don't like rallies due to its energetic efficency, i just want to see fast, noisy and spectacular race cars driven by skilled pilots. How does the hybridization enhance the show?

[@bookle5829]

FIA is using race to research more efficient tech.

[@dkdanis1340]

It gives more power. 134 hp is a lot.

[@ponch851]

He said there is no central differential, it means that there isn't an active central differential of that there is no central differential at all?

[@joshg3248]

I have the same question. I’ve heard people describe it both ways.

[@RallyeRacin9]

There isn't an active differential. Not at the front, not at the rear.

[@bn880]

There is no center diff means it is a fixed 4x4 system. At least Front to Rear.

[@marfrandema1884]

Fixed 50 / 50 split and in case of a handbrake turn it frees the rear diff. It is a very terrible and irrelevant awd system.

[@dkdanis1340]

It probably has some kind of active diff.

[@ALLRNDCRICKETER]

no more paddle shift? thats a huge change

[@bpford]

and i'm glad they got rid of it, it has no right in a rally car

[@ALLRNDCRICKETER]

@@bpford true to a certain extent, but for how quick these cars are and the concentration needed, along with the hydraulic handbrake it's going to be a very busy cockpit indeed

[@bn880]

Yeah I'm a bit bummed about this change (more than any other). It was a nice creature comfort, in line with modern performance cars (except electric), and made the driving more precise in certain situations. (both hands on wheel)

[@RexinOridle]

Hopefully these techs come to consumer cars like the WRX and stuff. Specially Manuals don’t get any hybrid.

[@jamesoconnor3017]

530 horse power? What happened to the 300 horse limit ? Things are creeping back up to group B power , but I’m not complaining! 😁👍

[@diocan7710]

300 hp limit is gone for long time, since 2017 my friend

[@jamesoconnor3017]

@@diocan7710 . Ok thank you 👍

[@marfrandema1884]

They will have 530hp for just 30 seconds each 10 minutes of stage.

[@Sheleg_Alexandr]

@@marfrandema1884 "when the cancer on the mountain whistles" 🤣🤣🤣 most of the energy will go to urban sections

[@oliveringram3056]

Until a spectacular crash, at which point this will be scrapped and we will revert to 250 hp rear wheel drive. Actually that is where it was in the 70's, the good old days...!

[@bn880]

Not bad but pulling the paddle shifter is just so lame. Wait, that was not meant to be a pun. :)

[@barsorrro]

I totally agree with you there. These purely mechanical sequential boxes will look ridiculous on top-formula rally cars -- especially in this day and age when loads of daily-drivers have paddle-shift (I know it's not of the performance kind and I know it's inferior, but to a layman it will definitely look more advanced).

[@bn880]

@@barsorrro That's exactly the issue. And it just detracts from steering precision in a few cases, at a pretty minimal cost savings.

[@dkdanis1340]

They will still have paddle shifters.

[@barsorrro]

@@dkdanis1340 Erm... Hello? We're past two rallies of the season already, not to mention the copious footage from the pre-season testing. Rally-1 cars DO NOT have paddle shifters.

[@bn880]

@@dkdanis1340 They do not.

[@peterbennpan7288]

So not only do you have to have the skills to be a world class WRC rally driver you now also have to have a degree in science!!!🤨

[@erezyoal]

It looks like the FIA did this becose there are only 2 officel manifector in WRC so priveter can compite at the same level.

[@indopleaser]

sounds like a lose, win, lose. go slower on the straights, get a little boost, then have to drag around 100Kg’s untill the FIA lets you use it. Crazy!?

[@williamrainbow4115]

They're still faster the the previous gen. Still insanely fast.

[@mikaeljohnsson4982]

@@williamrainbow4115 More like faster only on the straights and when the grip is good, I think. For now at least. I understood that when I read that you have to change restrictor from a 36 mm to a 33,7 mm (estimated power reduction of 30 horsepower) if you want to participate with a previous generation WRC car in 2022. They don´t want to take the risk of any of the old cars stealing the show. (Having said that i quite like the new Rally1-hybrids. The sound!)

[@williamrainbow4115]

@@mikaeljohnsson4982 I have seen some on boards and I can't keep up. It's insane how fast they tbf

[@dkdanis1340]

Look at new races they are even crazier than before. And they have 140 hp more. They have boost when ever driver wants.

[@wealradyknowwhois]

Nice, why is WRC 10 years late to the hybrid party?

[@Pete68T]

This is all Very Well and Good But I Started Watching Ralling when i was a Kid and the Ford RS1800 BDAs were in Full Flow with Rodger Clark etc IF All Road Cars Have to Be Electric Then is There Any Point Bothering With all this Hybrid Stuff As its Not Relevant To What the Buying Public Are Being Told they Have to Go EV A Competion Racing Car of ANY Sort Not Just WRC Should Just Stick to using An Engine with Some Sort of Fuel ,They could Go Synthetic if they want But Leave all this Hybrid Rubbish. Are the FIA Going to Dictate that a Top Fuel Dragster With 10,000 Hp Goes Hybrid While it Moves Among People in the Paddock And Then Burns 30 Gallons of Nitro Of the Line ? It Would be better if they Grounded Some Jumbo Jets and Stopped Flying These Cars all over the World if they Want to Save the Planet ? But just Leave A Engine in Racing Cars For Gods Sake😂

[@bookle5829]

why do you type like that? just type in lowercase.

[@DannyDaniels254]

The beginning of rally death. FIA should let every team use its hybrid system where and how much it needs to

[@ritdhar6579]

100 kgs of Advertisement!

[@obtrunco]

The hybrid system kinda sucks.

[@Jose.LQ6]

Too damn restrictive

[@easyerc2226]

Too many silly rules now like F1

[@brianoconnell2543]

WTF 😬

[@ElTyranto]

Way too many emojis in the title.

[@indopleaser]

every comment has been dogging this hybrid system.

[@TheNordic1979]

The new cars are FIA nonsense!👎🏻

[@dkdanis1340]

They are great from speed, cornering, sound, more power.

[@TheNordic1979]

@@dkdanis1340 the new cars have less aero, the new cars are have more weight and they are slower than the last Generation.

[@donooetomo5213]

NOTHING SPECIAL MORE WEIGHT MORE COMPLICATED ONLY FOR REGULATION NOT FOR THE POWER NOT FOR THE CAR

[@dkdanis1340]

MORE FUCKING POWER 530 HP.

[@1986dc]

Good luck to any privateer team trying to run these cars in years to come. What a mess.

[@barsorrro]

Since 2004 WRC cars were hardly used outside works (or works-affiliated) teams. After all, they have become not eligible for regional or national FIA events. AFAIK, they'd only be run in some rally-sprints or as a not-scoring support class in FIA rallies in just a few countries -- mostly just for show. In short: they will probably be no privateer-run Rally1 cars.

[@rallycodriver]

There is no plan for these cars to go to private teams. The 2017 to 2021 car was the same.

[@iancrawford1405]

Load of crap. X box rally cars..... Does any engine power ho to rear wheels??

[@CosmicSeeker69]

As an old boy - what HAS the world come to when for a video you need 'safety' barriers around a pile of components? And don't start whinging that the hybrid box (could) contain a lot of energy - bc it's not possible to get a shock off it as it sits there. ❄️ generation

[@beauchamphuberville1355]

Its nit that mate - its picture framing. Makes it look more meant as opposed to rattling around in a warehouse!