Wrong Way Out #8 - We'll burn that bridge when we get to it

With Capac, TFE and w4sted we will attempt to escape from this rock with both hands tied behind our backs! No thrusters, no control seats and definitely no idea where I am :P
The full playlist can be found here: • Wrong Way Out or for a quick catch up, see the teasers here: • Wrong Way Out Teasers
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/ w4stedspace
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You can catch me live on other days over at / splitsie or if the timezones don't work out head over to / flipsie to catch the vods
A huge thank you to the 'NPCs' and everyone who helped out making mods, builds and everything else for this series, Nev, gruzzob, Eisen, Frosty, Jexsam, Arstraea, TheFool76, Cyph and more :)

[@Splitsie]

Apologies for all the crashing and things that happened today - I've unfortunately got one of the rapidly failing intel 13th gen CPUs. I've been dealing with intel for it and just after the stream ended I got an email from Intel, they're sending me the replacement before I send the busted one, but it now means I've got to wait for that to get shipped... just before christmas, so I've gotta keep my fingers crossed it arrives soon :(

[@samuraidriver4x4]

Time to switch to AMD?

[@sheaross3124]

no worries bud, If it was me I would swap that thing out for an AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D as soon as possible. At least if it's compatible with the rest of your hardware, I've heard it's the best you can get for gaming at the moment, doesn't have any of the Intel nonsense, and at least from what I've seen appears to live up to the hype. Wish you luck in sorting it out regardless my friend hope you have a wonderful day. ps. I cannot bloody wait for more assertive acquisitions XD

[@mjyfs]

Been having exactly the same issue with my intel processor. I did find that using their Extreme Tuning Utility software and lowering the Performance Core Ratio from x57 to x54 fixes the issues. But it is really just a bandaid and I should really contact someone about getting it replaced with one that actually works as intended

[@llljustcallhimdave]

If you were to crash while driving what would happen? Would the sensor still detect you as being present and just keep driving in whatever direction you were going?

[@Splitsie]

lol Yeah, I think it would :D

[@urgo8750]

I vote for a foghorn button to anounce the impending movement of the large rover. Move it or lose it!

[@KushiakaSquig]

Splitsie, one thing I learned from playing with the water mod and collectors: put the collector on "don't use conveyors" so it's never going to push ice into your cargo containers, but the O2 generators can still pull from it without problems. This prevents your cargo to fill up with ice like crazy.

[@Splitsie]

Yeah, I had a similar setup in my ares at war game. I left it on here because I didn't mind getting a bit extra to burn through later as we won't always be near water 🙂

[@ewokYT117]

"I locked down the banana so the fish couldn't steal it", has to be the most Capac phrase that I've ever heard. LMAO

[@ewokYT117]

Wrong way out - #8. Top Gear Begins! This is beyond a doubt, the best episode so far and I'm only one hour into it. Capac and Tiffany are hilarious. Splitsie doesn't have a choice or someone watching over him. Are things perfect? No. Is everything going smoothly? No. Is it entertaining to watch? Yes. Thank you guys

[@Splitsie]

Thanks, glad you're enjoying the mess we're making 😂

[@JescoLincke]

Very enjoyable to watch. That hinge-hinge-hinge-rotor-corner-hinge - contraption was something to witness. Wouldn't have thought that after countless vehicles with trailers you'd ever build anything more complex than hinge-rotor-hinge again 🤣. You might have given the "hollow rooms" - approach to buoyancy a chance. I mean, the banana was a free hint there. Just some 5x6x3 airtight segments with conveyors along one side and a vent into the hollow. Should be much cheaper than tanks (the cost of large pipes alone...). All the best to your CPU...

[@Splitsie]

I got an email from Intel just after the stream ended, they're sending me the replacement before I send the busted one, but it now means I've got to wait for that to get shipped... just before christmas, so I've gotta keep my fingers crossed it arrives soon :(

[@JescoLincke]

🤞

[@Izlagor]

i had animaniacs flashback when Splitsie said "I like what youre thinking Capac" soooo close to "are you thinking what i'm thinking Pinky"

[@Splitsie]

Lol 🤣

[@anumeon]

Capac:isms of the day Five meters is the margin of error that i am leaving for your driving of this thing. Hey, All evil suggestions are supposed to be in my chat. I think that is the banana rattling against the bridge maybe?

[@Nash210590]

Was fond of Splitsies "Oh that is not a happy angle" today 😆Thus was born the Angrle.

[@UthacalthingTymbrimi]

Can't wait to see how this bridge goes with the Wrongco... whatever happens, I'm sure it will be glorious!

[@BrokeWrench]

Splitsie: we think the tires float. Me: Aint got no air innit!😂 It makes sense if you dont think about it so hard😂

[@trivalentclan]

Splitsie playing with water and atmospheric mods, what’s next turning on lightning damage.

[@Splitsie]

Never! 😂🤣

[@the_ttr]

@@Splitsie how about that mod that added radiation from reactors/uranium and shock from grinding batteries ?:) (yeah i know the answer)

[@thealicemonster9217]

10/10 can confirm that us Witches only float with some effort on our part. Otherwise we sink and float later like our non witch counterparts.

[@tfish199919]

Hopeful and excited for a new season or continuation of an assertive acquisitions! I’m going back and re-watching scrapyard engineers while I wait for more content like that from the space engineers community on KZbin.

[@joshuataylor516]

A style of drill rig I really like would make it super easy to drill boulders like that, and is a good use of a turret controller. The key is to use a rotor for side to side control, then a hinge NOT controlled by the turret controller just deployed to a 45 degree angle(can also use this to stow it) then a piston or two followed by a hinge that the controller does operate up and down, then pistons and drill(s). Slap a camera looking down the last line of pistons, point it to the boulder using the turret controller, and extend those drill pistons into it.

[@calebbroaddus3337]

40:00 watching the solar panel register light changes while being moved gives me terrible ideas for a manual solar array 😂

[@Black5heep_]

Now I know where the term "Holy Banana" comes from. Great job :)

[@ShuRugal]

For the foldy ramp: instead of deploying the ramp under power, why not set it to always be trying to fold, then deploy it by turning the hinges off? Give them a small amount of braking torque, to cushion the fall as they deploy, but otherwise let it flop? that way you can let it go to the ground AND it won't break itself if you forget it

[@Splitsie]

The ramp can't fall into the position it needs to be in, since it's double bent in the middle that part will flop down vertical and not be particularly helpful :(

[@glenmcgillivray4707]

A long term ladder fix. The rearmost ladder should be attached to a piston, attached to three sensors. The piston comes with a long ladder up one side, and sensors at rhe base. Two sensors react to nearby voxels, one to Rover movement. If the rover is almost stationary, sensor 1 allows Sensor two to lower the piston and attached ladder to 2 meters the nearest voxel, preferably slowly. Third sensor detects if a voxel comes within 1.5 metres snd retracts the piston at maximum speed till the voxel is at a minimum safe distance. So long as you don't lose power the ladder will always take you up. For added bonus points, you need a rotor to keep the piston upright even when climbing crazy hills to make dismounting ladders easier, without permitting clang. I might suggest a low breaking force to keep it from bouncing too much.

[@Splitsie]

Sadly a piston ladder won't work properly here (which is quite frustrating). Because of the number of subgrids around as well as server based challenges, the subgrids on the rover always shake a bit, this means that you'll often be thrown off a ladder before it can reach its destination. That was a part of the drive to making the ramp with the ladder on the roof, even if you get thrown off, you still end up with your character on the ramp. On the other hand, now that I say all that, having a piston lift where you get on it by grabbing a ladder on the roof may work better than the ramp since you'll fall onto a flat surface then be transported up to the rover, and now I've got something I want to try to design :D

[@glenmcgillivray4707]

@Splitsie I figured if you are holding the ladder, you are connected to the base of the piston, climb up, past all the erratic joins that make the piston itself, to a platform at the top some six blocks up (in case of maximum extension scenarios allow room for pivoting at max length), then drop back down onto the rover from above. Allowing it to tilt backwards would prevent you getting 'off' the ladder into clear air when driving uphill because you always have a platform before you, even on a forward tilt, because we can eliminate a lot of backwards tilt scenarios. I mostly suggest a rotor because a low friction rotor with limits will swing to the centre of gravity when unpowered, which is perfectly fine. Hinges seem to clang more. But either way, the tail can use sensors to stop the big rotor when it detects proximity, but you can't climb it in steep terrain, but maybe a longer ladder will help? Actually climb a block or two so you can't drop out? Definately a sensor fix for the Tail is useful, but you can't always be confident you can climb to the top currently when it is angled steeply.

[@ShuRugal]

"how things do a float" is simple: 1 - when you add something to water, the level of the water must go up. That is, the object sinking into water must lift the water it is sinking through. 2 - in order to do this, the thing sinking into the water must weigh more than the water it will lift at the point where it is fully submerged water (pure) masses one ton per cubic meter. If you have a one cubic meter object, then it only needs to meet 2 conditions to float: 1. it must be sealed so that water cannot enter it 2. it must mass less than one ton. Alternately, if it cannot be sealed, it must be constructed of materials less dense than water, which will ensure that it always weighs less than it displaces.

[@ewokYT117]

Another issue with this bridge, if it definitely will be submerged at the middle of the crossing, is the balance of the Wronco and the buoyancy of the Wronco tyres. If the buoyancy of the tyres is greater than the bridges tanks, the Wronco will lift off the bridge and be swept away. Possible solutions to this problem, • Use guide fails to stop the drifting off of the bridge. • Use the currently built bridge as a foundation for an elevated roadway, which will make Entry on / Exit off of the bridge much safer and easier.

[@randallvolk8437]

Maybe for the next series that involves just you and capac, you could do a water mod heavy world, maybe also using both the ‘Industrial overhaul’ and ‘air-o-dynamic’ mods.

[@Jahtivouti]

That pontoon bridge was something I thought that i'd never see in this game :D. I'd like to see wrongco having a proper steering wheel but maybe these steam locomotion style latches are more entertaining.

[@the_ttr]

Hey, IIRC form playing with water mod, solar panels, when immerse in water they are force-off (to simulate no sun rays under water)

[@Splitsie]

Oh! That makes so much sense for what we were seeing. I had no idea, thanks for that! :)

[@Terminal2079]

TFE says humidity is killer. *Former North Queenslander raises eyebrow*. "Really? You don't say that the humidity sucks eight months per year?" 🤣

[@Splitsie]

Weirdly I found the humidity in FNQ less troublesome than in Tassie, but it might have been because I was expecting it up there 😂

[@kelemvour]

The second coldest night on record in Tasmania is -13.5 C… That is NOT cold. The RBLF is routinely subjected to -35 C days with windchills of -40 C or lower in the winter. And in Winnipeg, the corner of Portage and main occasionally records temperatures colder than the surface of Mars. So no, Tasmania is not cold. It’s very cool. 😂🇨🇦

[@Splitsie]

It's definitely not cool, so it must be cold :P

[@thornblackwell5749]

So myopic, you could use the thin pillars to make the T in the anchor so you didn't have to drill so much.

[@tatehenson3611]

Omg I just saw the placing a hinge, then remove head, and add hinge part to opposite side… I always adjust angle, and use mag plates, after seeing this I feel silly. What a time saver. Also it’s always funny to see folks suggest really basic ideas (often flawed) to someone who has probably taught half of us a good chunk of what we know about this game, and had created custom things that we play, but the suggestions sound as if you have basically never played. Ideas being bounced back and forth is always cool, and can lead to neat ideas, but sometimes it’s nearly cringe how basic and flawed suggestions I hear are. But all entertaining.

[@Splitsie]

Lol sometimes I miss the simple stuff too though, chat and capac can be effective distractions 😂

[@dazley8021]

I fully expected you going "Cus i've got a TFE, no Wasted and half a Capac!" (lets be honest, most of the time Capac is half there, but thats okay) :D

[@Unmannedperson]

Could you add wheels to the ramp at the back then relax the hinges, so the bottom of the ramp rolls along the ground with the movement of the rover? The wheels would also provide some collision resistance…

[@salemprompthous3820]

30:00 aaah, the age-old off-world problems of placing a reachable ladder 😅

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

I feel like that portable bed/substitute voice rig needs a workshop entry and a cryo tube variation.

[@Valenorious]

Putting a sensor on the tail to stop the hinges as soon as the ground is detected might be a useful feature. (if it still exists in later episodes.)

[@Splitsie]

Yeah I recently tested the sensor's ability to detect the ground and it's sooooooo much more reliable than it used to be, so I really should get into the habit of using it for things like this

[@vision-of-dog]

They need a ladder at the front, not the middle, so that the access ladders aren't out of reach when the middle arches upward.

[@MagnusDraconis]

The boat is a punt. The Pole is a quant.

[@ewokYT117]

The Banana is the key to crossing the river.

[@PGLGriff]

Bananas are back luck to have on a boat😂

[@Duke00x]

Not sure if you have done it in later streams but you need to expand the trailer on the big rover and get a second set of wheels on it. That should fix much of lifting of the center of the rover.

[@kelemvour]

The RBLF has additions to the Splitsie’s - To Do List - Love Red Batteries Venerate Red Batteries Worship Red Batteries 😉😉😉

[@Splitsie]

Careful, I might just put blue ones on there out of cheeky spite :P

[@kelemvour]

@@SplitsieBlue Batteries are a good second choice fro when you don’t have Red Batteries. Especially Sapphire Blue batteries.

[@spyke1890]

The connector incident made me think of a new channel - Floopsie!

[@Frosty-1098]

1:46:24 looks like your going to need one of those trucks with the stairs like they have for boarding planes

[@Splitsie]

Lol yup 🤣

[@colinsutherland8446]

Nice job on the banana bot team. Well done. Also feel for you with the cpu crashes. Had same thing when I had amd 1800xt. Drove me nuts. Experimental CPU are too temperamental

[@LugborG]

You guys are complaining about Tasmania being too cold, and here I am maybe getting snow for Christmas for the first time in years. I'd definitely rather this than Australian heat.

[@Splitsie]

I'm the only one complaining, Capac and TFE love the cold :D

[@TheZeyc]

Kinda sad you fixed the energy issue, was hoping for a giant sailboat solar sail on the wronco, including unnecessary sub grids to have some on angles so they look better xD Then again that would probably make flipping over way worse

[@Splitsie]

Oh don't worry, I'm still hoping to get plenty of solar panels on there, just nice to be able to do other things before they get put on :D

[@Terminal2079]

You could try watercooling your PC Splitsie. I'm in South-East QLD and currently building an AMD hardline watercooled PC. Bought all the parts from Aussie retailers online. Places like PC Case Gear, PLE Computers, and OC Gear all have stores in or close to Sydney and Melbourne. Feel sorry that you've got to deal with the Intel issue. It's one of the main reasons I went AMD.

[@Splitsie]

I'm not interesting enough in tinkering to have the patience for a full water cooling loop (wouldn't have any impact on my current issue anyway), but I do have a bequiet AIO, which I like because you can top them up 🙂

[@masterwoof8969]

Splitsie, i’m pretty sure those “explosions” you were hearing were thruster acceleration sounds, as i had also heard some other ship thruster sounds.

[@hobbesz9199]

I'm loving that my experience of Space Engineers is more stable on Linux than your experience on Intel. Intel really fumbled the last two generations of CPUs, at least their GPUs are getting better.

[@Splitsie]

Yeah they really screwed the pooch on the 13th and 14th gen, I hope they get better again because competition is always good for us as gamers :)

[@omenifighter]

I vote rowing machine (Central body with protruding arms that move backwards when submerged and forward when above water)

[@Splitsie]

Huh, I wonder if that would generate enough drag to move it. With a paddle boat style not working I'm not confident, but I definitely would like to give it a go

[@A_moody26]

When are we going to get the Mod collection so we can play along? :(

[@Splitsie]

I don't have any plans on publishing the main mod as I am making changes to it every week, many of which would break saves if you weren't in the right place.

[@A_moody26]

@ ohhhhh gotcha, well darn :( lol

[@A_moody26]

Thanks for the response though, still my favorite creator on KZbin!

[@BrokeWrench]

You can still download the mods that he has listed

[@Maeyanie]

Aside from the vague "all of the things you're suggesting", what have you tried? Reducing the thermal throttling limit? Significantly underclocking? I guess it doesn't really matter if you're getting it replaced, but until it arrives.

[@makell6597]

patal boating might work if you use the o2 tank insted of block as patels maybe 🤔

[@Splitsie]

Sadly not, there doesn't appear to be anything that creates differential drag against the water :(

[@TheApawcalypseCats]

Man if only I had been streaming something when this was ending, mightve had a small chance of being raided

[@GrouchyHaggis]

why not just have a deployable (vertical) lift that descends when the vehicle stops and automatically retracts before moving?

[@GrouchyHaggis]

IF you can do a timer block for handbrake (wheels off) + lift deployment you shouldn't be able to drive off with it deployed?

[@thirtymilesniper]

Multiple afk small grid beds on the main river could be a good fallback for large rover power loss. 1:24:57

[@jowi_]

me watching the Vod be like: *banging on soundproof window* "splitsieeee, thats the old system!!! SPLITSIEEEE!!! hydrogen tanks arent the main flotation mechanic anymore!! splitsieeeee!!! have you not read the designguide on the modpage splitsiee!?! youre wasting so much iron for minimal effect Splitsieee!!!" also a tip for swimming: you can only swim by pressing spacebar, which moves you up, so dont look towards the surface of the water, or else you move sideways, it feels unintuitive, since humans usually look towards the surface to surface, but thats the way it is (basically like the jetpack but only in one direction).........at least thats in my experience, you can move forwards normaly, slowly, but effectivily swimming up only works with spacebar if i remember correctly also hearing "is zeitgeist still used" sure sounds odd to me, a german, its always funny seeing german loanwords and their strange use and pronunciation in english (dont get me started on Angst, that and anxiety are just different words for fear from other languages that english nabbed and used for slightly different kinds of fear, instead of inventing its own words for it) alsososo the bridge may hold for the smallgrid, but definitly not the big one, even if youd build a second bridge, maybe by building small wheels under it and balancing across, the big wheels acting as floatation and while i dont knwo the exact values, im certain that building the pontoons out of hollow halfblock rooms would be as effective if not more so and way cheaper (and dont forget the air vents, they dont even have to be inside, im not sure if every part would need one or if the subgrids would work, as you technically only need one vent per grid for it to work) alsosososos yeah, when the h2 tank fill the bridge will sink also tell tiffany that the spoiler has to have for- and upward facing slopes of any kind to actually work (the opposite of lift), right now he only expanded its gliding wingspan and stability

[@Splitsie]

I'm sure we'll try some of the airtight thing, but I think having the tanks there as a conveyor system and as known points of lift (to ensure some sort of balance) is helpful for the 3 of us who have pretty much never played with the mod.

[@ewokYT117]

I don't want to sound like a "negative nancy", but if the bridge you're constructing is only just wide enough for TFE's rover. How on earth is it going to accommodate the Bucking Wronco?I Unless, that this a fitting end for the Wronco.. Sea burial. This episode is 3+ hours and the bridge isn't even half way across. Also going that distance on a floating bridge will have lots of sagging around the Wronco. I give it 50-60% of a safe crossing. Unless you cheat with stiffening up the hinges.

[@Splitsie]

We're thinking of using the bridge to get the small rovers across, then use them to tow the wrongco while it (hopefully) floats, or at least that was over of our ideas 🤔😂

[@codedarms5737]

Wow the timing, I see Live and join to watch and as i load in to the stream is over

[@Splitsie]

Oof that's rough timing, though this one was shorter due to certain challenges :/

[@PiroteusGaming]

I know you don't want advice but to keep the CPU a bit cooler you can easely stop it from boost by going to the power management options advanced and set max CPU usage to 99%. Yes you lose power but since you already have a damages CPU it might help to stop it from breaking even faster.

[@Splitsie]

I've been poking around in the bios all day and seem to have found something that works, ran the test for 5 hours with no crashes so hopefully I'm ok until the replacement arrives. It's probably tanked my performance though

[@PiroteusGaming]

@@Splitsie you will feel it in premiere the most, but rather 17% slower then rerendering 8 times becaus of crash^^ Good luck to you.

[@high787]

I miss the stream's. atleast theres a 3hour vid i can watch at my little freetime. Just started full time job working almost 16hours a day

[@Splitsie]

Oof that's long days, hope you don't burn yourself out working that hard and still have time for your family :)

[@high787]

@Splitsie Luckly its 7/7 so 7days freetime aswell👍

[@headp3]

Explosive Propulsion for crossing water???

[@Splitsie]

Porject Orion but at sea? lol It would probably work but be quite expensive in parts :D

[@ruroot8321]

Ditch Team Blue, AMD has been fantastic the last few years. I have an all AMD setup(cpu and gpu) and have had no problems.

[@Splitsie]

Why would I spend another couple of grand when a warranty replacement is on its way? I typically only upgrade my CPU every 5 years or so as it's just so expensive, every time I do I do my research and make the best decision I can based on the info at the time. Unfortunately the 13th gen issues have surfaced at the time I bought this one since they were brand new

[@tsalVlog]

I couldn't remember how I found your channel, but now I'm pretty sure it was EVE related.. and I think it was an unlisted video?

[@Splitsie]

I don't recall ever making any EVE content as I'd stopped playing it long before Capac and I decided to make videos together and then I started to make Space Engineers tutorials and the rest is history :)

[@tsalVlog]

@ okay that’s probably for the best. EVE was the devil.

[@foamyflightmaster9385]

What a nightmare, Intel PC woes....good luck with the replacement.

[@tremdog9245]

What TFE trying to be a John Deere rep or something.😅

[@Splitsie]

Lol it seems like it, maybe he secretly got a sponsorship 😂

[@dazley8021]

Also interesting, theres actually a "Daz" in your chat.... guess my name aint that unique lol (disclaimer... the Daz in your livechat and I are not the same Daz, but I always kinda feel addressed when you reply them).

[@Marc_prime]

Get an air con in the shed @Splitsie :)

[@Splitsie]

I would, but it's too expensive right now

[@JescoLincke]

If the structural load and slope of the roof allow, mqybe go green and plant some succulents onto your shed's roof. As long as they get some water every now and then, that should help quite a bit.

[@scottsmith4204]

Next time, instead of npcs, just have more players and just lots of restrictions and only one vehicle.

[@Splitsie]

The main reason I keep the crew count down is to help keep everyone together, as you add more people you increase the likelihood of multiple separate conversations going on at once and it creates a very different feel for the adventure

[@OMG.HopsGnue]

Watched and Liked 👍

[@kalandarkclaw8892]

poor w4sted his trip wassn't so great for him :(

[@Splitsie]

I know, the poor guy is having a disastrous time 😔

[@Twisted1409]

Im using ryzen 5 with onbaord vega 11, i think its about time to stop using intel. A replacement will bring u back here within a month with another issue, at least amd is stable compared.

[@zxq_5]

2:52:20 I got the reference lol

[@tj_2701]

👍👍👍👍

[@kithran]

I still play eve online....

[@Splitsie]

Hopefully you're a lot better at managing your time with it than I was - I had some proper addictive behaviours going on and it definitely caused some problems for me

[@kithran]

@@Splitsie Nowadays I spend a lot of time not playing but still being social with people - been over to Iceland for Fanfest a bunch of times as well as Eve Vegas about 5 times and Eve North (canada) not to mention London meets more times than I can count.

[@cjvellow1260]

you guys suck with those plus temps im sittin here with 4 feet of snow at -10 :(

[@Splitsie]

I'm happy with the heat, but I think my PC would enjoy your cold 😂