2021 Russian GP Race Review | WTF1 Podcast

Sochi!? Race of the season!? The Russian Grand Prix provided so much action the TV direction could barely keep up with it. We discuss Lando Norris's heartbreak, Lewis Hamilton's 100th win, Max Verstappen's recovery from 20th to 2nd and plenty more.
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00:00 Intro/Race of the season?
03:01 Three Word Race Reviews
03:49 Rain Changed Everything
08:20 Norris McLaren Pit Call
22:36 Hamilton/Mercedes's weekend
40:37 Verstappen Damage Limitation
47:47 Alonso Shortcut
53:12 Sainz's drive
56:38 TV Direction
1:03:33 ABCDEF1
1:26:27 Predictions
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[@WTF1official]

Sorry that the last two minutes appear to be cut off for some reason! You can listen to it on Spotify or Podcast apps. But for those who want the full list of Turkey predictions... Matt: Vettel outqualifies Stroll Track is still slippery Tommy: New podium finisher this season Hamilton-Verstappen on-track controversy Katy: Perez podium Both Alpines finish in the top ten Fans: @rainerain_vroom Aston Martins clash together in race again @Rsheppard1433 No points for Red Bull @Ishan_2002 No one will go flat out at turn 8

[@SIDYfe4r]

I don't think it's fair to blame the TV direction to much this race. We did follow a very close gap between Sainz and Norris for 4 laps and nothing happened. Some of the gaps going down were immediately an overtake and switching around for every move already happening means we only see half of it. The race itself was so action packed and we definitely did still get to see a lot of it, wasn't perfect, but different race weekends deserve more blame than this one imo!

[@stupidmonkeykev]

Excellent, as long as I wasn't abducted by aliens and that's why I missed the end.

[@selder_7]

But did Frank make a prediction?!

[@AnotherJoe]

How did the fans rate Sains?

[@cosmostrek2001]

re upload the video i cannot get the others only the tube

[@jimmypaige1431]

Apparently Alonso has said in drivers briefings this year that people skipping corners on lap 1 is a joke… and supposedly he was completely ignored… so he’s taken it into his own hands 🤣

[@callumjb7668]

lol

[@insertname8889]

That's sooo Alonso lol

[@Drones_and_more]

I think what he did needed a penalty, it was calculated not by accident.

[@xaviermalcolm8481]

@@jairajsinghshaktawat6593 Why does everything have to be about Mercedes, are they really living rent free in the heads of F1 fans? Lmao. 😂 I bet at this stage you could make a comment about the color of some random driver's shoes and someone will bring up Mercedes. Obsessed.

[@blueguy12345]

@@jairajsinghshaktawat6593 Are you being serious with this idiotic comment ?

[@lilmessifromTAndT]

Just want to take the time to show Katy some appreciation. She always comes with very clear and concise points. Keep it up guys!

[@ColonelAckerson117]

must have missed them every time

[@chartaiwan]

I Agee. She is not as loud as the two guys. They make so much noise is hard for her to have her Voice. But she is clever and rational with no need to make stupid jokes

[@barnstar2077]

Matt is often very dismissive of her too, which I don't think is right.

[@matthewdunn6732]

@@barnstar2077 I think the dynamic is quite fun. I don't see it negatively, just jovial, because she is new rather than anything sexist. Matt praises her as much as complains

[@brian576]

@@matthewdunn6732 I think part of it is the "British Humor" or whatever but I do feel he a lot of times he goes a bit too far to the point that she looks uncomfortable. Similarly, I remember she asked for half points or something and Matt went off on her about making her own rules or some shit and then a little later he says he gets for half points despite as a viewer, the thing she argued for was more deserving of half points.

[@Psammites09]

It’s almost poetic to see all these young stars getting heartbreaking losses to the veterans of he sport. Everyone needs to climb the ladder the had way, even super talented young hot-shots. The good news is, the future of Formula 1 looks extra bright with all these kids showing their amazing quality

[@brookegarbarini]

Except Max who won on debut for Red Bull 😆 But I get your point.

[@patricksibiya7861]

Lecler- overtaken by a Mercedes when his engine logged out. Albon- taken out by a Mercedes Russell- in Mercedes... but failed to win because of a puncture. Norris- overtaken by a Mercedes due to a bad decisions by the team. Moral of the story. Stay away from the Mercedes if it's gonna be your first win.

[@sk8kar89]

@@brookegarbarini He won on Debut for Red Bull, not debut of his career.... so he also had to struggle.

[@ryanf1425]

@@brookegarbarini max is in year 7. I know it doesn’t seem true but it is

[@georgiaking9429]

@@brookegarbarini Hamilton got 8 podiums out of the first 9 races in his debut season. When it comes to debuting or performance in your rookie year, Hamilton takes the cake every time.

[@Guust_Flater]

Max, Carlos and Daniel among others made the decision to go to intermediates. Lewis/mercedes said they follow Max's decision, even if that would have cost them the win. All to be sure to finish in front of Verstappen.

[@nataliebrosow7225]

Sorry, off topic, but, Gaston!!

[@aja3918]

Well it was a 50/50 call, at least make sure that if you go down, your main rival goes down with you🤣

[@theglitch312]

@@aja3918 For Mercedes, it was far from 50/50. That call was super easy. Bottas pitted on lap 47, lost only 10s to Hamilton on a lap with a 30s delay from the pitstop. So Bottas essentially gained ~20s in a single intermediate lap! And that's when the rain wasn't even at it worst. One lap later, they had about 10s of footage and data of Max gaining insane amounts of time on the slick runners around him before making a decision.

[@joostprins3381]

@@theglitch312 yep, but they did follow Max to be sure, they said it them selves.

[@deathbower]

You guys gave Bottas way too high a grade. He sat in 14th for the whole race until the rain saved him. Did he even perform a single on-track overtake while sitting in the lower midfield positions?

[@LuminalSpoon]

Yeah, solid D IMO

[@t1_hishin310]

To be fair this kind of evens out because usually WTF1 shits on Bottas even when he does well. They didnt even give him an A star while they gave lando and daniel both an a star among others for Monza last race.

[@pinquisitor9552]

He was crap the whole race and very lucky to end P5. The reverse for Perez, coasting to a podium and then a drop…

[@t1_hishin310]

Pinquisitor So? Bottas was the first to make call for inters and if the team had pitted him when he wanted he would’ve ended up on the podium. You keep saying luck but Verstappen would’ve ended P8 if not for the rain. How about you dwell on that.

[@rick1901]

@@t1_hishin310 *P7 and in case you didn't notice, that's a lot better than p15

[@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm]

A 3 word review would be "irony of rain". It usually was a great opportunity for the underdogs to achieve something special. Here, due to rain, we ended up with another HAM-VER podium 😳

[@rick1901]

It was almost a HAMVERBOT as well

[@joannaxuan4265]

This. Yes. The rain arguably gave Lando his pole, and it took Lando's win away from him.

[@selder_7]

Tsnuoda staying isn’t a Honda thing, it’s a stubbornness thing. They don’t want to admit they were wrong to not give that seat to Albon or that they brought Tsnuoda in too early and they don’t want to be seen to quickly chew up and spit out another driver

[@endthisnonsense7202]

The moment Honda exits, Tsunoda is sacked. Apart from that, maybe...

[@HoopleHeadUSA]

When is Katy going to do a “obscure rule” or similar video series giving us some behind the scenes insight on random FIA rules

[@asapmarkobeats]

McLarens have potential to decide the Driver's championship. Ricc has started to get comfortable with the car and they're proving difficult to pass even for Merc as they're so fast in a straight line. Norris defensive driving is also insane. Max got stuck behind Danny and ate his tyres which kinda killed his charge through the field

[@rishinaik4326]

Yeah so if the Mercs and RedBull don't have a massive pace advantage clearing them in the future races would be very difficult. This makes Ham task more difficult because when he will take engine penalty the chances of raining or some bonkers start are less so he might have to battle them on track hindering his progress

[@sarahmonserrat6552]

What cost Lando his win was how he reacted in those crazy 6 laps. All drivers were communicating with their teams closely. Meanwhile, Lando was asking his engineer to shut up. For a race leader, he didn’t seem to be interested in knowing and understanding what was happening around him. Mclaren’s lack of info wasn’t the issue here. Daniel made the call with the same info as Norris. The other teams had the same info as Mclaren but still made the call (well their drivers did). When Lewis pitted, the best decision was to cover that pit and accept the P2 position. But it was clear that the team didn’t want P2. It was win or nothing. They got nothing, well P7. Wouldn’t say gutted for Lando’s lost because at the end of the day, everyone gambled and had so much to lose just as much as the front runners. Again, the rain came for everyone and could have potentially ruined everyone’s race. It’s really down to how the drivers handled it. All teams (apart from Mercs) were giving the shots to the drivers. After all, they are the best judge in that moment.

[@crabsodyinblue]

but don't forget the emotion involved when after all these years (karting etc) your first ever F1 win is 6 laps away, something you dream about from the early years, it is right there in front of you, just keep it on the track just a few more laps? Lewis had his doubts too. i would've stayed out

[@sarahmonserrat6552]

@@crabsodyinblue The doubt was never an issue here. Even Max had doubts before calling for Inters. If you listen to all the drivers radio, there was a staggering difference between Lando and the rest. Okay just take a look at Lewis’ response. He was questioning the team, not telling them to shut up. Lewis was conversing with the team. Lando was outright dismissing his engineer.

[@Vislow]

@@sarahmonserrat6552 Comparing someone having doubts in P1 to someone having doubts further down the grid is ignorant. Lando was told the rain would stay the same, not once did the team tell him to pit.They were asking him questions while he's 4 laps away from his first win, on slicks, in the rain, without the luxury of a car in front of him that he can react to.

[@lolumo]

Lando isn't an Asian man they're trying to stereotype into a joke so his mistakes can be forgiven, even overlooked

[@sarahmonserrat6552]

@@Vislow A lot of drivers were told the same amount of rain is expected. Only the Mercs had the info that it will be heavier. Look, the pressure is all part of the game. If you crack, you lose. It’s the name of the game. The people who were spot on with the call didn’t know either if it was the right call but they called it anyways. Had it not pay off, they all lose the position they were holding on to. Example was Daniel who was running in P6. He was out of points after he boxed. That’s a huge chunk of points lost at the end of the day. Yes the front runners are in a tight posiiton, but that doesn’t mean the others weren’t. Again, the rain came down for everyone and all teams and drivers were tested. Some gained, some failed and Lando was one of those. Im also specifically pointing put how he was communicating with his Race Engineer bec clearly he was cracking under pressure, hence his attitude. Lewis was hesitant but at least he was conversing with the team. He was questioning the team while Lando was dismissing the team. That made the difference.

[@jorgelc3588]

It seems unfair Checo's grade, especially when they seem to forget Checo got into 3rd place with good tyre strategy and management, but got stuck behind ricciardo due to a bad pit stop (which seems to be a common occurrence for Checo with RB), otherwise he would have been closer to Lando and Hamilton and would have been with a easier choice when changing to Inters in that situation... Not saying Checo was completely blameless for the result, after all it was ultimately his choice to wait before changing his tyres, but A) he wouldn't have been in that situation if not for his team's bad pit stop and B) Lando made the same decision but HE still got an A (almost A*) from them, i mean i like you WTF1 but sometimes... sometimes... you're clearly totally wrong and biased, but that's OK, like you said, we're all just fans.

[@jardinero119]

Bro they never judge checo subjectively, if checo would be British it would be a different story

[@kimi88cz]

The slow pit stop must have been deliberate to get him behind Max

[@instenalable]

@@kimi88cz Ah yes the classic Checo fan's conspiracy theory everytime he's got a bad pitstop, you people have been saying that since last year when he was with Stroll. Not like Max didn't also got a bad pitstop (4+ seconds), and do I need to mention Monza?

[@cambyses1529]

yeah, I agree grade is daft, but its no the only one, wish they would take the time to do some research on all the drivers before grading them. So many times they are like "I dont know what happened - C". it doesnt reflect well on them.

[@Kaliblister]

his job was to help max for the championship. Hamilton made 2 mistakes this week end and Perez wasn't here to capitalize on it. Perez is suposed to fight for the podium on a regular race. When hamilton makes 2 big mistake Bottas and Verstappen start at the end. he needs to fight for the win... Not fighting for the podium with a Renault

[@smoothopsgp3994]

Norris was fuel saving when Hamilton caught up. When Lewis got close, Lando picked up the pace. No doubt he would have won.

[@Shadow-wk6ny]

Yh even Hamilton said

[@versiable8041]

I don’t think so. For the first on lap 48, Lewis got the DRS on the main straight, just before the rain came down heavily, so that’s a good indicator, had rain not happened, I don’t think Lando could’ve held off Lewis for 5 laps.

[@michaelcourtney4969]

@@versiable8041 Hamilton was behind Riccardo for nearly half a race. I personally don't think he could have got past lando if it stayed dry

[@f1germany-racingcontent390]

@@michaelcourtney4969 And he was in Ricciardos DRS every lap. Against Lando he struggled to just get into that window. If Norris wouldn't have made a mistake, ain't no chance Hamilton is winning this.

[@Ronyplumain]

If u want to believe that...

[@dexraikkonen7]

Sometimes Katy has a much better sense of humor than Matty and Tommy. The: 'fancy a D', was pretty hilarious.

[@mdark14]

Yeah man. She carries most of these podcasts I think

[@saiyerugara9038]

"20th to 2nd is an A*!"

[@NardKoning]

Don't feel like you have to defend against "British bias" too much. I've never found you guys overly biased and know that you're a fan channel, not pretending to be the F1 high court. Don't let it take away from the authenticity of the content and just continue what you're doing.

[@TeamSukiyo]

People will just bring it up the more they talk about it on the podcast… if they just ignore it, it won’t be as blatant

[@4ntoCatch]

the irony is the british are probably the least bias and look to be fair more than corrupt. Thats why its annoying .

[@nicolaspinillos3942]

Everyone’s forgetting Perez has that 9 second pit stop, if he wouldn’t have had that he would have come out in front of sainz and would have had the chance to catch up to Lewis and lando with his fresh mediums while they were sitting on 15 lap old hards

[@teipeu9033]

And his stop for inters was also long, right?

[@karanbraria93]

He was not catching Lewis. I don’t care what you say lol. As soon as Lewis got some clean air. He was 2-3 Sec ahead of Perez on worse tyres.

[@rockomax4284]

Ye that slow pit stop ruined his chances of making more out of it. Damn Red Bull for having a bad stop every race since the new rules.

[@xaviermalcolm8481]

No chance of Perez catching Lewis even on Mediums. I think we all should know that by now. That's almost as delusional as saying Bottas might catch Verstappen. Those support drivers are nowhere near the caliber of the front runners in each respective team - especially during the race.

[@jiachengkhor4797]

@@karanbraria93 easy to say in hindsight tbh but anything can happen as we saw in the rain.

[@Pa-lc6ty]

Danny Ric after that screwed up pitstop 🔥

[@teo-rl1sx]

I think the Checo rating is a bit unfair because he did the same thing as Lando yet Lando gets an A. He had a good race and recovered well from a 9 second stop to be on the podium, just mis timed the rain stop.

[@teipeu9033]

BrItIsH bIaS

[@aaronscheer8130]

I think they forgot the pit stop. But even considering that i think it was a B... And that's coming from a perez stan ;P

[@Thedizzyrocker]

Don't forget Checo had a shocking quali whilst Lando got pole. 9th when he should've been easily challenging for top 3 in that car

[@teo-rl1sx]

@@Thedizzyrocker yeah but he had a very strong race till the rain which i think made up for it. Bottas had an equally bad quali but then a way worse race performance but got the same grade

[@teipeu9033]

@@Thedizzyrocker The top three were the only ones who got the good window on the softs AFAIK. Checo, Bottas, and Hamilton all stayed out too long on the inter because they didn’t want to risk the softs. That meant that they qualified with their fastest lap on the inters (I think). Perez did not set a good time, on his first run but we know he’s not a great qualified and if he’d been able to do a proper second run, he’d have been top 5 easily. But he recovered anyway and could have achieved a podium if not for a long pit stop and wrong call (which many other drivers made, and which is completely understandable). You could argue that Checo needs to be better in Qualifying, but we’ve seen that he can have a good start and then factor into the race as it progresses. He’s struggled on tracks where it’s difficult to overtake but so did pretty much everyone.

[@dutchproxx6453]

I feel like it was really Norris who lost that race not the team. Hearing the team radios from both Daniel Ricciardo and Norris you can clearly notice the diffrence in experience. And sure Norris was in a hard position to be in you are in first and who knows but Dani Ricc knew out of experience he should box and he was pretty quick with it. Thats just experience Norris doesnt have yet.

[@declanhardie9273]

Yer true but the team should been more forceful like the merc and red bull teams

[@tonTeufel]

It's a teams job to make your driver pit. Hamilton (way more experienced than Ricciardo) ignored the first call to pit. Mercedes knew that staying on slicks was not an option so they made him pit the next lap. McLaren never did that, they didn't call Norris in at all.

[@dutchproxx6453]

@@declanhardie9273 i mean redbull left it to the drivers as well. Verstappen made the call to go to inters but peres didnt. The only team that made the call for the driver was mercedes with hammilton but even he ignored it the first time around. So even if mclaren said he needed to box he couldve and probebly wouldve stayed out either way. The moment hammilton pitted he knew as well that he couldnt do another round on slicks. If he thought he could win with the slicks he probably wouldve ignored the call to box again.

[@tamryn2967]

The thing is though and I mean no disrespect to Daniel as he had older tyres but he was struggling to keep it on the track while Lando wasn’t. So that’s why Daniel came in and Lando felt confident to keep going. Max gambled and if you listen to his team radio he says after he boxes that he needs it to rain more for him to benefit. Experience wasn’t a factor as Seb, Perez and Alonso all wanted to stay out. If that second front of rain didn’t come everyone who’s boxed would have looked like the idiots. Merc were the only team who were sure that more rain was coming. Everyone else who boxed was either struggling to keep it on track or had nothing to lose.

[@florisbackx1744]

13:45 Eeverybody with access to the TV feed live feed could see that the back of the track was to wet for slicks. I understand Lando doesn't know, but the team should have known. I agree with Tommy that they had the info but didn't correct Lando. He wasn't robbed, they let it slip out of their own hands.

[@perranmitchell4332]

I'm not sure that's true. I think if we're talking about literally what's on the TV feed, it was obviously too wet for slicks after the point at which Lando had already passed the pits. It went from "just about survivable" to "swimming pool" in about 30 seconds, by which point Lando had to survive another full lap. I don't disagree they let it slip out of their hands though. Should have made it clear that it would rain harder and ordered him in.

[@sarahmonserrat6552]

Agree. Daniel asked for the inters, that should’ve been enough clue for them and they could still win the race. Mercedes knew staying out wasn’t the right thing. Even if Lando pitted first, Lewis will still pit. Again for them, the race was with Max. Not Lando.

[@10parth10]

@@perranmitchell4332 yeah but Daniel said it was clear he needed inters. Based on that information alone McLaren should've known.

[@perranmitchell4332]

@@10parth10 Oh yeah I'm not denying they should've known and communicated that to Lando, just being pedantic and arguing that the TV alone wasn't enough to do that in time ;)

[@bennylloyd-willner9667]

@@10parth10 and Lando now have learned a bit more about when pitting is needed, and also communication, com goes both ways in professional teamwork. He should have had the professional calmness to ask why when they asked if he wanted inters instead of shouting back. But he had only top podium in his head and unconsciously disregarded the signs that Danny noticed and made a solid decision on. That's my take on it.

[@selder_7]

This was Hamilton’s Turkey 2020 for this year. And why, while I think that Verstappen is the favourite at this point, I won’t rule out Hamilton winning the title because he can just turn things around and win. Relentless

[@theglitch312]

How was it Hamilton that turned things around? Max just took an engine penalty and went from P20 to P2 on a pure Mercedes track. Even in the best of times P2 would've been a great result here. Meanwhile, Hamilton *lost points* to Max after this latest run of 3/4 tracks where Mercedes should've been the clear favourites...

[@NardKoning]

I don't really get your point? I mean I agree that Lewis can do this, but if there was ever a race that (should have) had easy Ham victory written all over it, it would be this Russian GP. If they win Mexico or something it would be a different story.

[@rai2u]

@@theglitch312 to be fair tho max also benefited on the rain and he was able to jump from p7 to p2

[@theglitch312]

@@rai2u Yeah he likely would’ve been 7th-8th. Finally he got a bit of luck that gained him 5 to 7 points on Hamilton. Still doesn’t make a dent in all the bad luck he’s had. Even Baku was a larger swing in Hamilton’s favour, 11 points.

[@pandre5458]

these podcast's always brighten up my Monday also George in the points in 4 out of the 5 last races and Latifi is really improving in the past races good time to be a Williams fan

[@moazreda6301]

i think i'm very lucky for this season to be my first ever season to be even interested in F1

[@ahsanaltaf664]

There were many moments at Sochi where I was like WTF. You should add a WTF1 moment of the race in future IBR’s or podcasts. Love your content!

[@scottmeredith3359]

If you lived in the U.S., you wouldn't think the "British bias" phrase was so ridiculous. Not so much you guys, but the F1 hosts and especially Sky Sports F1 it's hugely apparent.

[@ExclemationMark]

Hehe it’s true

[@captaintoyota3171]

Yeah Crofty etc its BAD how biased they are. Wtf1 isnt bad but Sky is. Crofty slurps Hams c___ constantly.-U.S.fan since laye 90s Also ham section of this podcast is longest section... and Max's section they still talk about lewis

[@tamryn2967]

The thing is Sky Sports is a UK broadcaster that is for the UK audience. Other countries buy the rights to to Sky Sports. Ziggo is hugely biased towards Max, the French commentators are biased towards Ocon and Gasly and the same for the Spanish commentators with Sainz and Alonso. Out of all of them Sky is the least biased towards its own drivers. I’m not British and I don’t find them that biased. The problem isn’t Sky it’s the fact that they are the only English broadcasting option and there is no neutral commentary.

[@Harry-bp2dl]

@@tamryn2967 thank you, i hate that people just ignore the other broadcasters or act as if they are objective.

[@captaintoyota3171]

@@tamryn2967 yes but F1 english feed is sky thats what we get. The pit lane channel is a joke and i cant stand that woman who sounds like a shrill mouse when excited.

[@Husmanmusic]

The craziest stat to me is still that Hamilton has won a race in every season he's raced. That's just insane.

[@devratnasari]

Been waiting for this review!

[@TP_Gillz]

Tommy brought up some GREAT points and awesome analysis of the situation for Mclaren. That was a failure on the team's part of communication.

[@Clipsofracing]

Max didn’t have drive of the season, he wore out his tyres too quickly on both stints which is why Alonso got him and then got lucky with the rain. There’s been way better drives than that this year.

[@jeffreyh4128]

Not sure if thats max or just wrong set up.. Allthough first stint was ok

[@stinkosm]

Lucky with the rain? Last time i checked everyone had rain. He just happened to make the right decision when to swap to inters just like LH. If you call that lucky you have no knowledge about racing whatsoever.

[@vincentras1991]

@@stinkosm I agree. It’s called racecraft.

[@Clipsofracing]

@@stinkosm What I mean is that without rain he would have probably been 8th, the only reason he had the chance to get second was because of the rain.

[@theglitch312]

Agreed. He pushed and burned his tires too fast, track was green again due to rain after FP2. Similar conditions to France where Ferrari really struggled with it. Max's best and most spectacular drive this season is France. His two best drives overall are Austria 1-2. 1 Grand Slam, one near Grand Slam (no FL), no mistakes.

[@lewisunited3900]

Been waiting for this really looking forward to seeing your opinions!

[@tensevo]

Sochi 2021 was a truly special GP weekend. It had emotion the entire weekend, from practice right up to the last lap. Literally nobody saw that coming.

[@mattthomas5765]

Largest winning margin since Lewis Hamilton in 2008 Silverstone GP btw

[@racecrasher99]

Ye whatever. Looks cool on paper. Doesn't mean anything though

[@thelarry383]

@@racecrasher99 no one asked 🤡

[@racecrasher99]

@@thelarry383 who asked for the statistic?

[@scottmeredith3359]

Okay... also, irrelevant

[@scottmeredith3359]

@@thelarry383 It's called a "comment"... anyone can make one... Especially in response to someone else's stupid comment.

[@luismonteiro4204]

Cheers for this podcast. Greetings from Lisboa, Portugal

[@rotkiW9014]

1:25:33 I think Maz could’ve got a higher grade, he had a mega start to the race, he shot up to 13th, stayed there for quite long(considering what he drives) and his pace was actually decent, even slightly better than Mick’s. Imo he deserved C, same as Mick

[@usernamesSux9]

I think even if Mazepin reached the podium the grade would still be..."and the fans gave him an F"

[@bizarrebunny5579]

After that he did get overtaken by Mick tho who had hydraulics issues and was 4 seconds behind Mick in qualifying which isn’t very good is it

[@rotkiW9014]

@@bizarrebunny5579 Yes, his quali pace was alarming, but the race was really decent. I know Mick got him towards the end, although considering his mega firs lap and his overall pace compared to Mick, giving him an E is a bit too harsh in my opinion

[@bladechildx]

He started 15th, Mick was 14th. He only gained those cause Mick and Yuki lost out in T1, he was in 13th for 2 laps then dropped to 16th in the next 2. He also got overtaken by Mick with a broken car who retired the next lap, got lapped twice and was was 52 seconds behind Gio when Maz finished. Maz was lucky he started as high as he did, lucky that he gained any positions and was lucky Mick had to retire.

[@whysrumgone]

Mick made up a 20 second gap to pass him on track before the dnf. If we're bringing up the start, then that has to be brought up too.

[@KODABARKS]

For the next 2 weeks imma have an attitude -Sincerely a Lando fan

[@pitohui313]

*AISURU.TOKYO/asuna?[Make-Love]💞* (◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over KZbin: This is fine Someone: Says "heck" KZbin: Be gone #однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

[@ReadySteadyDESTROY]

Honestly I'm gutted for Checo, he had an otherwise good race

[@mamuszisthebestloser]

Dont forget, big thanks to Libert media for this excitement season. Money cap, less testing % etc. Americans are good on how to make a sport major.I belive from next years on, the races will be like this, almost all of them.

[@timowilms8102]

I hope not, F1 must stay a sport, not a show. Americans have a reputation to go too far sometimes with these kind of things...

[@bosmans1978]

Just 1 major reason this season is exciting .... VER in his RB33

[@stinkosm]

Cant credit the americans for this lol. Most of these decisions where made by the teams and where in the development for years.

[@imranmohsin9545]

Well idk abt who to credit .. but must day the F1 Team has done a great research on getting these reg changes for 2021 and also cost cap definatly has done some damage which w are seeing glime a bit here but for 2022 would be a huge fear .. I belive mclaren and red bull.might have thrown a lot now instead of next year

[@reshawngeorge7509]

@@stinkosm the previous f1 group and the president would not have made these changes. Had a very old European mindset. European sports in general have little parity, it’s just f1 is the most egregious example.

[@bertijnbruinhorst7905]

Max stalking Hamilton. Would be a good 3 words race review

[@calebhernandez4233]

I saw that Russel has gotten the same amount of points in the last six races as Sergio Perez in the last six races

[@thefaltered2393]

red bull keeps screwing up his strategy

[@volcolmshoot]

@@thefaltered2393 Perez himself chose to stay out for too long at the end

[@rick1901]

@@thefaltered2393 how? Perez screwed himself by choosing to stay out. He was doing well before that but in the end it's his mistake.

[@SirGuifoyle]

Yikes. He's been pretty disappointing the past few races 😞 I love the guy, but he needs to pick it up.

[@cambyses1529]

@@rick1901 Did he chose to have a 9 second pitstop as well? Would be quicker if he got out the car and changed the tyres himself.

[@Usedtobebillie]

Perez puts a great drive, was running 3rd before the rain and Matt gives a C but for Leclerc that finishes 15th he gives him a B. Perez at this point could win every single race till the end of the season and Matt would still give him a low rating.

[@jasongates2300]

The constant Perez bashing is embarrassing.

[@EduSaav]

Perez has just been underwhelming!! ...and he wouldnt even have finished 3rd in the drissling condition losing out on Alonso and Sainz before pitting. Qualifiying 9th, almost getting catched on the first stint by a verstappen that started 20th.. idk man its not bashing he just proves 2nd seat is cursed. At least since signed a new contract 6 races ago

[@cambyses1529]

yeah, grading is so inconsistent. Perez pitstop error stopped him from competing for the win probably as well.

[@Usedtobebillie]

@@EduSaav even Riccardo was struggling, it's a world of difference going from a pink mercedes to a Red Bull with an unstable rear that's is completed build around Max and the team sacrifices your race for Max. Like I said before the rain, if it hadn't rained Alonso wouldn't been able to pass and also the team mad a horrible pit stop for him. He has been shit in qualifying but in races he has been good.

[@chanhw]

Go, Hamilton! 100 wins is an amazing achievement. We are witnessing F1 history being written. I concurred with Toto that it might take 20 years for some people to appreciate Lewis’s achievements.

[@caenenwisse848]

I find it really funny that people act like Lewis isn’t appreciated when he has the BIGGEST fan base and is the most famous of the current F1 drivers. Lewis has more fans than any other driver it’s just that the rest of the F1 community wants someone else to win

[@chanhw]

Lewis Hamilton has 9.8 million followers on Instagram alone. Max Verstappen has 70,000 loyal Dutch fans alone. Exact numbers are impossible to obtain -- there are hundreds of thousands of people critical of Hamilton despite his millions of fans. Statistically, Hamilton at 36 is the most successful driver of his generation. Verstappen at 23 is the NEXT generation. Drivers in their 30’s include Vettel, Riccardo, and Bottas. Drivers in their 20’s include LeClerc, Russell, and Norris. Discussions of GOAT are controversial because it requires comparisons across generations, machinery, and regulations.

[@pops4843]

FINALLY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THSI

[@Quayleman]

Why did you once not mention Norris told his radio to shut up. When they told him to pit.

[@lilsloppynutsack1799]

The radio never told him to put

[@lilsloppynutsack1799]

Pit

[@YourLoyalDeserter]

This year’s Sakhir. Incredible race, great drama, but also intense heartbreak

[@cactusjax3779]

I know it’s all a bit of fun, but there’s absolutely no consistency in your ABCDEF1 grades. You mark some drivers down for certain things then completely ignore those things if it’s one of your favourites. Verstappen, Norris, Leclerc etc

[@colbywoolsey3113]

That's not what we mean at all when we talk about British bias

[@brickisland6353]

Maybe you should make a video about how inconsistent the FIA is with applying to the rules. For example crossing the line at pit entry/exit. There are numerous examples of people crossing the lines and getting different penalties or not even getting anything.

[@stinkosm]

Your one of few british outlets thats actually not biased. Yall have your favorite drivers but in the end yall willing to set that aside for a genuin discussion. Dont let the haters get to you!

[@johnparisi3424]

I agree but sky sports on the other hand there’s no denying they are British biased.

[@Nienke131]

Don’t worry about people commenting on bias. I like your passion and I don’t care if you guys are rooting for someone. In fact; it makes it just more fun to hear your excitement about certain drivers. Don’t ever change that

[@lolumo]

We'll see if they treat Russel the same way they've treated Bottas then

[@Clipsofracing]

How is Perez C? He basically had the same race as Lando just further back because he got stuck in a train.

[@prospekt_1]

I know! And then they went and also gave Bottas a C. I was steaming for a moment there tbh

[@sbinotto3780]

He is back there because he qualified there when max and charles were already out and bottas took a penalty He is in the second fastest car and gets outqualified by stroll and alonso

[@rejguon2378]

Because he had a brutal weekend starting p8 in that car is horrendous yes unlucky at the end with the rain but the same race as lando not a chance

[@cambyses1529]

@@rejguon2378 No, he had a chance if his pitsop hadnt been so bad. He would have come out in third on fresh mediums chasing down two drivers on much older hards. I think it would have been very unlikely he would catch and pass them both - but in a "normal" race his worst result should be 3rd with a chance for better. Even after all that though he still managed to get into third by the time the rain came, he then just made the exact same decision as Lando, Leclerc and Alonso which cost him in the same way - except all of them were graded higher for some reason.

[@maxx09]

Heartbreak for Lando, cant believe it. Poor Guy

[@googlegobind]

I love when matt says hello everyone welcome back to the W........ T......... F...... 1 Podcast

[@shamr0ck]

Lando was super stressed, you could hear it on the radio with him telling his engineer to shut up. That put his team off being more strict with him telling him to pit. It's Lando's fault imo.

[@Adjudicator1]

It is not just Lando Norris who is stressed. I believe the entire McLaren pitwall's lack of experience while in race winning positions and under heavy suppression, pressure and information overload also made them have analysis paralysis, that may have caused them to read the weather radar wrongly. If you also listen to Daniel Ricciardo's Team Radio, the McLaren pitwall were not very decisive and too passive, and RIC had to take the initiative to make the call for intermediates. Even up front, Lewis Hamilton wanted to try and continue racing with Lando Norris to the end, but was urged by the Mercedes Pitlane to pit for intermediates. Their greater combined experience level (Mercedes Pitwall + Lewis Hamilton) gave them enough suppression tolerance to not suffer tunnel vision and lose the big picture. Compare to the McLaren pitwall being more passive (Leaving decision to the driver - In Lando Norris' case, is stressed out with suppression shock) Like I mentioned, seeing this reminds me of military tactical games: Trying to have a suppressed unit navigate a minefield / ambush zone is usually fatal.

[@ZephFire6409]

The best thing about being an American F1 fan with no American drivers is that you can love (or not love) so many different drivers

[@agustinnieto8987]

Come on! Perez deserve a B, he did everything he could on the race, bounce back after a bad pit stop, just missed the call on going for inters as all the front runners not named hamilton did the same.

[@shamr0ck]

The apparent non existent Brit bias...

[@saiyerugara9038]

I think Perez deserved a C+ for his race.

[@santiagorivera2074]

Gotta love them giving Lando an "A" & Pferez a "C" when they both got pretty much the same result, but hey let's be biased for Lando and ignore his mistake and put 100% of the fault on Perez, Fuck they hate Perez.

[@Aemond2024]

They are in love with Lando and George. And they can't see it or just lie about it

[@kjubajla]

Would be nice if WTF1 would actually reply to you

[@Thedizzyrocker]

Finishing position isn't everything lol. Norris drove a near-perfect weekend whilst Perez was mostly anonymous through both quali and the race. Only the crazy last 3 laps made their performance look similar. Why even watch the race if you're going to judge drivers in such a shallow way

[@nosslraK]

They judge the weekend, not just the finishing result. Norris undoubtedly had a better weekend than Perez, wether it be qualifying or racing. He had an almost perfect qualifying and almost won and lead a lot of the race

[@nosslraK]

That being said though I dothink they undervalued perez's performance seeing as though he could've got a potential podium if it wasn't for a slow pitstop

[@montaudon49]

Fernando cut the 2nd corner to point out the flaw in the rules, to call him a "cheat" or "sneaky" is unfair. He has pointed out this flaw on numerous occasions and OPENLY threaten to abuse these rules if nothing is done about it. so good on him for doing something about it

[@johanfredriksvendsen8482]

For the ABCDEF1 you could in the future do a Team grade for strategy. Would have been appropriate for this race at the very least.

[@tomm1413]

This is a great idea actually! Haas would probably always get an F for not developing this years car and basically setting themselves up for a 🍩 this year, but for the other teams, it would be very interesting

[@Lily1127channel]

How can Lando and Leclerc have different grades??? Lando A and Leclerc B? They had literally the same race. They were both brilliant the whole race, till the rain, when they lost it all. Lando leading the race, Leclerc climbing through the field. Leclerc even got screwed by a slow pitstop and made up for it again and was right behind Verstappen. Ironically, the fact that he was "too fast", that he was just behind Sainz when the rain came (who started P2 and Lec P19!) was what doomed him in the end: they couldn't pit them in the same lap without Lec losing a lot of time because they were too close for a managable double pit stop (according to Ferrari), that's why they chose to gamble. When the rain came, both Lando and Leclerc stayed out, which was the fault of both the team and the driver. Actually, I would put more blame on Ferrari than on Mclaren. One was going for a rare win, where you may take "all or nothing" risks, the other should have just gone for the safest path for points. Lando seemed determined to stay out and silenced his team, but Leclerc's whole radio in the last laps is a complete mess, a complete fkup by Ferrari. I get that people are gutted for Lando and his lost victory, but the end was as much his fault (and the team's) as Leclerc's. Absolutely same grade, same performance.

[@danbrook7206]

Love this year almost every race is like the race ever

[@patrickpires8449]

I don't know which race you guys were watching. The team told Norris to pit, he told his engineer to shut up.

[@jardinero119]

Matt -“ people think I hate checo”..hmmm I wonder why? Matt said that he had to judge Perez for not deciding to pit for intermediate but gives Lando an A even tho Lando did exactly that lmao Matt, that’s why they think you hate checo

[@cambyses1529]

Also gave Alonso an A for doing the same thing and Leclerc a B for doing the same thing and none of them had bad pitstops either.

[@Pal_D1R35T4]

as a mexican that hurts me sooo much.

[@javierotero98cod]

But couldn't merc just change it all the previous race intead of starting last and 17 (I think) or is there a maximum parts change limit?

[@Bownhead_]

5:48 The day Mick is signing his A team contract is the day when Matt is painting his room and himself green so he can edit himself out...

[@theglitch312]

32:10 Mercedes have confirmed they're pushing the engine harder than planned to keep up with RBR's development. Max has 3 PUs left. One very new PU (less than 3 races), and one brand spanking new PU (1 race). His other PU is not capable of doing races anymore, but it's used to run FP 1-2 last I checked, so they can save mileage on the 2 race PUs. Hamilton's already scrapped 1 PU at FP2 Zandvoort. Let's say they did 7 races with it (could be 6 as well, no engine has ever done 8 full races as far as I know). He's left with 2 now. They need to push one PU to 8 races, the other to 7 minimum, *AND* do qualifying, practice and everything else with just those 2 PUs which are already being pushed harder than expected in the races... I doubt they'd take that risk. Worryingly, if it's true what Mercedes has said about Bottas' Monza PU, then they have serious QC problems... So Hamilton's new engine may be riddled with issues. Already checking a 1 race old PU because you suspect it's damaged isn't a good thing...

[@davidearthling5123]

Rain, I don't mind Shine, the weather's fine Can you hear me? That when it rains and shines (When it rains and shines) It's just a state of mind (When it rains and shines) Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Lennon/McCartney The rain critically affected the GP beginning with Q3, with Lando and team being right on it and switching to slicks with minutes remaining. It was Lewis and Mercedes who muffed that moment. Lando earned his first pole. Then in the final minutes and laps of the race, it was now Lando and McLaren making the wrong call, while Lewis and team were on it. Heartbreaking for Lando, who’d done everything so brilliantly until that point. The F1 gods and the rain gods conspired and that was that.

[@DugTheDog]

As a Lando fan I am devastated. As a Formula One fan, that was epic and tense all way round.

[@jtwilliams721]

Lando was thinking: ‘Heroes get remembered, but legends never die…’

[@dave7573]

Sainz P2 qualy P3 in dry P3 in wet.. A STAR

[@sarahbennett882]

Really appreciated Katy’s impression of Fernando 😆

[@marcov4190]

On the Hards Max was 5 seconds behind Lewis the problem was the mediums didn't work.

[@boterhammetpindakaashagelslag]

2.5s even at one point

[@collinclary5762]

The red bull really doesn’t like the mediums it feels like it’s faster on bards than on mediums

[@scottdonaldson821]

I think there is a little more to it, Lewis had looked after his Mediums particularly well and remained patient not to wear them down, that was reflected in his pace as soon as he was in free air before hit pitted. Either way both performed extremely well.

[@flphil4537]

Downside to F1TV is that the commentators are talking about what’s happening on the tv broadcast, not the F1TV main broadcast. It usually happens when they’re commentating on a replay. It is awesome having access to all the different cameras though.

[@zmillington]

Brilliant - Perez marked down harshly for staying out in the rain but they don’t apply the same logic to Norris or Leclerc. Absolute casuals.

[@haroonimran3280]

They literally marked Norris down for it

[@lolumo]

And then they joke about not being biased

[@LarmeMo]

Here my point 1-since Istanbul last you can see merc has issue on the wet to put temp on tires, this why they tried to hang there on inter, 2-Bottas engine change is to test new price for next year

[@peterv6036]

The 'juich cape' on Tommy's wall in the background. Brilliant!

[@royarteaga6934]

Good episode.

[@laurencampbell5893]

i’m equally a norris & mclaren fan as i am a neutral and i must say it was an amazing race but i still can’t quite appreciate yet. this season has just been unbelievably good though will definitely remember it in the future

[@jasongates2300]

Checo had a great race in my opinion up until it rained. Perez got up behind Hamilton early on, was stuck in the same DRS train as Hamilton was and Perez had the hard tyres and was in a good position. Red Bull gave him an awful pit stop, dropped behind Ric and Sai. He overtook them both on the track and was looking good for a third place finish. The only thing that he did wrong was decide to stay out when it rained, but the team should have been more assertive as they know more about what the weather was going to do. Checo deserves a B here.

I don't really know why I still expect to see a little obectivity around Checo...but...here we are...

[@YourLoyalDeserter]

The difference between Lando’s and Yuki’s pit line violations is intent. The stewards concluded that he made a good enough effort to slow down but got caught out. Yuki on the other hand had total control and crossed the line regardless.

[@ogreman2229]

I believe they made an official statement saying that Lando had slowed significantly more than Hamilton had when he made his stop. Due to Lando slowing down more they did not feel it warranted a penalty because it was due to track conditions and not the driver.

[@lolumo]

Interesting how the "rule book says no" attitude of the FIA only applies to certain drivers

[@YourLoyalDeserter]

Intent matters. It’s not who the driver was that decided this, it’s the driver’s intent. Lando has 8 penalty points, most of any driver atm, clearly the aren’t averse to giving him penalties.

[@lolumo]

@@YourLoyalDeserter Maybe it's the stewards trying to give him leeway to prevent a race ban then

[@naaraibusette6476]

32:21 watching this after seeing that ham took an engine penalty was so funny

[@zozol1718]

Yes xd

[@michaelg-l8786]

Best F1 podcast ever! WTF1 GANG!

[@sankarsondas1999]

2021 couldn't make Monaco good though, Tommy🌚

[@enotdetcelfer]

Yep, agree with Katy, a great season all around and it was very decisive and illustrative of team strategy and timing in the quali etc, the fact that the very on-paper normal finish didn't look like that at all 5laps from the end... Hamilton Verstappen 1, 2 would be nothing to write home about any other day and the fact that it wasn't show all the ways it was nuts, but also, there have been many races that had this level of interest and "this is racing at it's best / most interesting" this season, making it such a phenomenal season all around; can't wait for what the rest will bring!

[@shashankgairola4676]

49:43 that Katy "Alonso" impression though:)

[@arunglory619]

the fact that they didn't consider to talk Vettel- Leclerc battle is appalling. Vettel had a better pace on the second stint

[@selder_7]

I get the idea behind dropping Bottas back to hold up Verstappen before he gets into the points. But it’s completely undone by how consistently Bottas can’t hold up Verstappen

[@SirGuifoyle]

Haha it could be intentional. My bet is that he wants Max to beat Lewis.

[@Aemond2024]

Ofcourse Merc (and FIA) will do anything for Mister Ser Diversity to win and not some based Dutch boy

[@Mythbuster3808]

I seem to remember Matt staying out on slicks in the rain at the end of Sochie in youtuber championship.

[@redcobra1246]

Baku is a very good comparison with the "sprint" at the end

[@jasonjansen9831]

8:34 the weather came so hard

[@S6Video]

can we just take a moment to appreciate Katy's Alonso impression lmao

[@Cecil97]

everyone knew about the second wave of heavy rain from the radar, its why bono over rules Hamilton in the call to pit. Lando doesn't have the radar infront of him, its up to the team to let him know that.

[@Cecil97]

@@harrybirchall3308 i agree its just sad that the team didn't tell him they have more up to date information on track conditions worsening.

[@waverod9275]

Having multiple winners, especially new ones, really increases the fan excitement and investment.

[@lunardestruction]

can we just acknowledge if lando pitted at the same time as lewis, this race woulda been 10x better than it already was, cuz not only would we have had a great last 4 laps, we woulda had a true battle between the pit crews

[@colemanf1628]

On Brad - He’s been promoted to “Head of Trackside Engineering” so looks like the engineer swap for Stroll is permanent! (Confirmed on AM’s Twitter)

[@CabronDeOro]

Perez did a race that was worth a podium(with a very slow pit stop) before the rain, WTF1: Let's go for C Norris did the same decision to stay on track in the wet, WTF1: Let's go for A, A+ XD

[@aishamoh8862]

So verstappen (lucky or not) get from 20 to 2nd place and in the post race interview he gets (quite relieved that you get a clean race under your belt). And you say there is no British bias!!!.. or the fact that Carlos gets asked only one question but whenever lando or russel are in the podium, we get a full interview!! Really NO British bias.. I a huge fan of the sport and I cheer for both LH and MV. I just hope that if MV won he won’t get (most valuable man in formula 1 and doesn't have a blond hair) but the ( this the greatest driver ever) that Lewis gets.

[@8thlvlMage]

"Sainz, please tell us more about how you got third!" No one wants to hear that, and Sainz doesn't want to waste his own time answering softball questions about how good 3rd is. He was practically walking away already during the last question. First place has the longest interview, second place has a bit shorter, and third always gets a quick one.

[@10parth10]

Russel has literally had one podium so obviously he would get more time 🙄. Also in this race clearly the talking points were Lewis 100 and Norris loss.

[@Aemond2024]

FIA, F1, Sky, all are extremely Anglo biased. They don't like Max

[@chriscollins550]

@@Aemond2024 BS and you know it.

[@TheodoreAggelopoulos]

I have a suggestion about the grading system, just putting it out for you for consideration: I feel A+ should be given to one driver only... 😉

[@pluto2252]

I love how katy smiles every time frank shows up on tommys screen

[@henrrryyyy]

It will be more likely to go down as an all time classic if Lando goes onto be successful