2021 Turkish GP Race Review | WTF1 Podcast

The Turkish Grand Prix wasn't a classic but it still provided plenty of talking points. Should Hamilton have stayed out? Are Red Bull falling behind Mercedes? Was Gasly's penalty unfair? All this and more in our race review podcast.
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00:00 Intro
03:24 Second drivers deliver
19:08 Red Bull losing pace?
26:23 Hamilton's strategy
42:04 Wish it was dry
50:45 Gasly's penalty
57:36 Sainz DOTD
01:01:25 ABCDEF1
01:14:03 Predictions
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[@tensevo]

Bottas literally won from the front row, on pure pace, in the wet.

[@theglitch312]

Typical for Bottas to win the only super boring wet race in a very long time.

[@hamishmc2453]

If Hamilton had won the race like bottas did everyone would be talking about what a masterclass it was.

[@4ntoCatch]

the silent assasin

[@arvindwee4634]

@@hamishmc2453 Well if he won from 11th, then yes, obviously.

[@landacdeus]

Considering his wet race record, he did a good job in Turkey

[@derekpink]

How is it not an exciting race when people get almost everything they’ve been asking for? Wet race, loads of overtakes, legendary wheel-to-wheel action, Hamilton didn’t win, an overtake for the lead, tricky strategy calls, title lead changes hands. I think we should appreciate the action in that race. We don’t need chaos and red flags for racing to be interesting.

[@09Mrsubaru]

Totally agree

[@_lowpoke700]

We are just so spoilt this year for good races. I think everyone was anticipating a switch to dry at some point so I think they are just letting that overshadow the good racing that happened

[@josetrevino1139]

I do agree that perez has been off this season in some races like Spa, Spain, etc., but like bashing on him every single podcast is not on point. Firstly, he has done better than gasly and albon when they were in that red bull seat, being alex's minimum 6th in 2019 and 4th in 2020. He (albon) was pretty good in 2019, but in 2020 he seemed to struggle so much. I really don't get how you say his qualifying is better than sergio when he was loosing out in Q2 pretty much half of the races in 2020, and most of those races he didn't even made ground up from his errors in qualy (Nurbugring, Sochi, Sakhir, Silverstone...), but sergio did made ground up from pretty much all his races, and in qualy has fallen in Q2 a couple of times. His racecraft is much better than gasly when he was in RB. He has helped Max in Portugal, Baku, Austria 1, Sochi being behing lewis until the pistop of 9 seconds, Turkey... He has already done more than Both Gasly and Albon. Ad when he loses out 4th place in qualy, is against drivers like Norris, Leclerc and Gasly, the tree of them driving a car which have adapted over 3 years nearly, and taking into account that this year the midfielders are much closer between them and also closer to the top teams... And I just really don't get how you keep saying that he has to be in the same pace as bottas, hamilton and verstappen, He has not even been in that seat one year and you expect to be right there with them when bottas has been in merc since 2017, Hamilton nearly 8 years, and Max since 4 or so years. I don't think I ever wrote soemthing this long, but I'm just tired of people bashing sergio soooo much.

[@eggman1006]

Preach brother!

[@RahilBhavsar]

Perfectly echoes my feelings! P.s. Checo can't become a superb quali driver overnight. But still if he's half a second off Max(which he is normally), it's perfectly acceptable as his racecraft comes in to play then. I totally agree he had some rubbish races this year, but even when he had pretty good performances like Monza and Russia, they just can't seem to be appreciative of him.

[@hamishmc2453]

I think that both the perez and bottas hate needs to stop, considering that that red bull is built completely around max, perez had done a great job.

[@t1_hishin310]

Rahil Bhavsar nah I agree on other fronts but you need to put your bias away here. Checo’s been in F1 ten years and he’s never outperformed a teammate in qualifying over a season, whether that be Ocon, or Hulkenberg etc. It’s not overnight. His one lap pace is just atrocious.

[@lopez.jacinto.6726]

@@t1_hishin310 he did. Against Button.

[@selder_7]

I’m enjoying Bottas a lot more now that we know Russell has the seat next year. I’m very glad he got a win here and had a great showing at Turkey in the wet of all places

[@BuuGz86]

actually there was plenty of grip so that why Bottas managed to do so good, if its slippery he sucks. He is a really good driver but wet track's are not his thing.

[@husse7300]

@@BuuGz86 he literally just won on a wet track tf u mean "he sucks when it's wet"

[@benparry4451]

I know what u mean bottas isn't blocking a seat anymore so u can enjoy his last races knowing that russell will get his chance if merc r competitive next year

[@_lowpoke700]

@@BuuGz86 yeah, he should go do a couple of years of rallying like Kimi or kubica

[@emaze8965]

@@benparry4451 you acting like he's Seb taking Leclerc off track because he can't accept he's a number 2. I always respected Bottas work ethic and his mild personality, if you think Russel will be able to consistantly be competitive in his first year under Hamilton... then ok we can all dream, not sure if your watching the same sport 😅 Hamilton wouldn't allow it. Same thing happened with Bottas

[@_Seb_Vettel_]

I want Button and Rosberg as the announcers together. Button for the facts and friendly and Nico Vlogsberg for the cold hard truth and shouting

[@shannonhadley1135]

Yes! Would make for amazing commentary

[@bacunnnn]

They both don't have the crofty like commentary style, you alwyas need one of those in commentators. They can play the brundle role well because they have also been involved in f1 racing but not have that style of commentary where they can do the crofty role

[@tensevo]

They are both color commentators, that would not work.

[@unthenner5519]

@@bacunnnn Nobody wants the Crofty style, he's a headache-inducing idiot.

[@bacunnnn]

@@unthenner5519 I guess you won't realise how boring it will be without a flare commentator.

[@edwinreyes4059]

I don't understand why it's so difficult to say that Perez has outperformed both Albon and Gasly and not always bring it back to all of them struggling in the RB #2 car. It seems like everyone tries their hardest to avoid giving him any sort of praise

[@eggman1006]

They clearly do, theres always a BUT

[@TheAmritabha]

Well they can keep criticising him.. checo is the correct 2nd RBR driver.. and once he is one with the car, he'll be a force to reckon with

[@eggman1006]

@@TheAmritabha Lets see what mental gymnastics they come up with by then

[@selder_7]

He’s not having a good season. Compared to the previous 2nd drivers, yes he is doing better but then the car is faster and he’s a much more experienced driver than they were. It’s not a Perez problem them and they’re not saying that he isn’t good, it’s just that Red Bull. There’ll never be a great second driver in that car unless the new regs totally take the car or they find someone else who has Verstappen’s driving style

[@luicupcake]

His Qualifying pace ist terrible. Albon wasn’t that far off from Checo.

[@micahfoster7717]

The battle between Checo and Lewis made the whole race

[@RahilBhavsar]

Checo showed his tyre management and defending masterclass, that too in at least 3-10ths per lap slower car, but you guys just can't appreciate him wholeheartedly 😤 I'm sure if any other driver(including Verstappen) would have done the same they would have gone bonkers. Why the bias, I wonder?

[@eggman1006]

They are bri'ish and have that nasty sickness called bias

[@rishinaik4326]

The thing is people think Sergio is not that guy who will tell on the radio I am pushing or you won't feel that he is aggressive with the steering . He gently steers the car and most of the time doesn't have any snaps ( he doesn't like it that's why he is not there in quali as his liking is opposite to Redbull philosophy).

[@Sha-yw6fb]

great insight to be frank its my view that checo could be a better driver than max...he has more experience ....when he newly joined RB he was at times faster than max ...Horner got worried that hís star man max will loose his shine and championship...so they started meddling his rear suspension set up to confuse his driving abilities....and make him look slow compared to max..for months they kept him in the back foot...well thats the plan some teams have for second drivers...

[@eggman1006]

@@rishinaik4326 Yes thats how tyre managment works and he can do wonders with them but people are blind to that subtle detail

[@avinashanish3350]

@@Sha-yw6fb /s

[@12kvic]

Checo wasn’t off pace he was falling back to hold off Hamilton from getting near maxs pit which he did, great performance from checo absolutely a team player…

[@MegaIronica]

Yes agree. I wish people would give Bottas the same credit when he goes with the interest of the team though.

[@ryanlee315]

I don’t think that was the real intention at first. Checo did lack some pace and Red Bull just conveniently used him to create a gap for Max. So glad that Red Bull finally got their strat for Checo right this time

[@roadman6367]

It was both him and verstapen, they were waiting for a moment to attack. I do think verstapen took to long attack bottas but perez was exactly where he needed to be

[@PeterExcelsis]

@@roadman6367 i honestly dont think Max was ever able to attack bottas this race, instead he was forced to drive damage controll and get that second place.

[@d3al3rplays68]

Just wanted to say. Perez now has 135 points. That is more than the previous drivers in a whole season.

[@humpitus]

He also has a championship winning car which redbull hasn't had in years

[@cesarapando-jacquez865]

@@humpitus the midfield isn't as far behind as other years

[@Kaliblister]

@@cesarapando-jacquez865Max Scored 214point in 17 race last year and he has 262.5 in 16 this year... So Albon was closer then Perez in point scored after 17race then Perez after 16.

[@Isaiah_McIntosh]

@@Kaliblister don't forget Albon was disappointing.........for a kid moving up straight away. What else can this year be for checo when he's a decade into his career and came in to be on another level of the kids that were there.

[@tonymontana4143]

Perez has less points than Lando. Context matters.

[@mayanksharma5478]

33:48 Ocon didn't had easy race, he closed in 8 seconds gap to vettel and was attacking him and later defending Sainz with 48 lap old tyres for 4-5 laps. Ocon may not be Sir Lewis but he is pretty good and they gave him a 'C". Alonso had no pace and Ocon was attacking Vettel and they gave them same grade. Alonso is right, many people in F1 form their opinion by the fact that they like someone personally or not.

[@rishinaik4326]

Typical human behaviour .

[@GloomGaiGar]

not just f1 but sports in general, get used to it

[@MaxskiSynths]

Sometimes, even with three people, they're not going to be 100% right all the time, but it was a fair point for bringing this up.

[@tensevo]

"Worst wet race, ever!" Bottas: Am I a joke to you?

[@kylecramer8489]

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[@FreshCutFrenchFries]

The car is next level

[@3asabird128]

Sorry to be that person but are we just gonna ignore the fact that matty forgot to introduce katy and tommy as the WTF1 founder 😕🙃😂

[@Gazmus]

For those of us who like to listen to podcasts in bed...can we get some more volume normalisation? Sort of have to choose between not hearing a thing Tommy says or being deafened every time Katy gets excited. (I dont know if volume normalisation is the word for it, equalisation maybe?)

[@RedSpottedToad]

Compression would probably be the correct word

[@iliasmoufakkir2359]

You guys are crazy to think that this was more boring then Monaco,Styria and portugal I would say this is top 10!

[@jakel7213]

I still can't believe the Styrian GP was boring and France was a banger. This truly is the strangest year lol.

[@GloomGaiGar]

I genuinely believe Perez was off Max's pace because he was saving tires to battle Lewis. Note the divebomb into turn 1.

[@edijzerman5880]

What race did you looking, a complot race or so

[@jonasgraumans2034]

@@edijzerman5880 why so aggresive?

[@justinscreed]

Penalty Points are a joke - I agree there should be a system but if anyone believes that Yuki missing the Pit Lane and Gasly with 1st lap incident with Alonso is the same of Bottas going bowling in Hungary, then what are we even looking at?

[@chriscollins550]

It is the same thing. Its a penalty for causing an accident. Not how much damage or out come the incident.

[@juanpablocardenas2347]

The hate towards checo in all the podcasts, even if he does very good in the race, is unreal. I don´t understand why you hate on him so much

[@Son-Of-Gillean]

Criticism of Checo is fair, you are just overly sensitive to that criticism because you are a biased fan

[@eggman1006]

@@Son-Of-Gillean nah mate, its pretty obvious, whenever a british driver makes a mistake (specially Lando and Russell) they go all the way out to defend them and when they do what they are supposed to do the dont stop praising them, but with checo its different, if he does something wrong they dont stop attacking him, if he does something reight they still find ways to attack him

[@Boerkreeelis]

@@eggman1006 Not saying there is no bias at all, but I think the criticism of both Bottas and Perez is pretty similar each week, and they both have the downside of a very good teammate that makes it all look a bit mediocre. WTF1 gave him some leniency in the beginning, and then he got close to pole at Imola and won at Baku, which was applauded. However, even though Checo said he needed 5 races to get on pace and he himself said that he was now on it more from Baku on, it never really happened. He's consistently 5 tenths behind Verstappen, he's good in the race but also has a ton of experience and you expect more from him (at least I do).

[@juanpablocardenas2347]

@@Son-Of-Gillean I am indeed a checo fan, but that doesn´t mean there is no hate towards him in this podcast. I know sometimes it is not hate it´s just criticism for not having a good race or not being where he is supposed to be, but it´s just unreal how they talk about Lando or Russell and praise them so much for nothing, just because of their nationality and the moment checo does an amazing job they still find a way to hate on him.

[@juanpablocardenas2347]

@@eggman1006 They also mention that checo was off-pace which is false, he was defending against hamilton but they took that as if he was slower. They don´t give credit where credit is due.

[@lucienklop5831]

Ocon in an Alpine barely making it without completely shredding his tyres, while losing up to four seconds a lap or Hamilton in a Mercedes hunting for a podium isn't quite a fair comparison. I think Ocon was quite lucky not to DNF and Hamilton would've completely blown his tyres with the pace he needed to get into third. If he really wanted to stay out at that last pit-stop he still was entitled to not come in as he did when the call came in 5 laps earlier. He decided to ignore the box despite his crew's call and came in on the call when it was too late? What I'm trying to say is that you can't ignore an "order" at the right time, then decide to go with it at the wrong time and to then also throw your team under the bus because you ignore your part in the decision is uncalled for. And if you decide to call out Norris, Räikkönen or Tsunoda for being rude to their team, then don't defend Hamilton for doing the same, whatever his reasons or whatever the circumstance. It's hypocritical and sounds biased, which I still don't think you are, but also causes people who dislike Hamilton to hate him even more, JUST because of the unintended bias as it facilitates their reasons for the dislike.

[@sergioccs74]

Plus Ocon finished a lap down, that means Hamilton would have needed to preserve a lap longer than Ocon. I don't think it was possible. Alas, we will never know.

[@Richardtv1968]

Spot on!

[@utkarshgupta1774]

Exactly British bias is real they just don't say it out loud

[@oliverheyes5747]

ocon did finish so the fact u think he was lucky doesn't matter because he finished and the risk payed off. when the team called him the second time he pitted because he didn't think he would lose 2 positions im pretty sure, not because he thought it was the better call. personally I think ham should have stayed out and tried to hold on to 3rd because at the point he pitted he had 7-10 seconds on Perez in 4th so he probably wouldn't have finished below 5th anyway. if ham stays out and it pays off it wld have been genius but u would have found a way to hate on it anyway, so I guess none of this matters anyway

[@lucienklop5831]

@@oliverheyes5747 I'm not entirely sure if your comment was directed at me or someone else in this thread (that's why people tend to use the @name to avoid confusion) but in case it is, I wasn't hating on Hamilton's decision to pit or stay out. As far as I'm concerned, he can do whatever he wants. Drive backwards for all I care. What I WAS addressing (hating in your words) was the fact that he burned his team down for a decision he was part of making. In case your comment wasn't for me, I appologize and I'll go back to minding my own business.

[@himanshurh4610]

Sainz has been really outstanding this season, he is the only one of the drivers who moved to a new team who has managed to really settle into a new team and kind of outperforming Leclerc who is arguably the future of Ferrari.

[@JupiterTarts]

Once Ferrari can get it together, I can see them as genuine title contenders again when the new regs kick in. Like Mclaren of last season and Merc every season, they really are a consistent pairing.

[@tonymontana4143]

He's definitely not outperforming Charles.

[@bostonvh]

What is your agenda against Checo? It’s becoming cringe worthy.

[@eggman1006]

He isnt bri'ish

[@juanpablocardenas2347]

@@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 Giving him an A after trashing his race pace and his season and not giving credit to him is a little compensation of all the shit they talk

[@t1_hishin310]

Why does it seem that whenever Matty compliments Bottas, he always has to add something that emphasizes how bad Bottas has been, like giving him just a compliment without a backhand would be asking too much from him? LMAO

[@eggman1006]

Same with everone who isnt Hamilton, Lando or Russell

[@tuketsi4073]

Brittish bias man :D In Monza Bottas drove from the back to the podium so what an amazing drive Russel

[@albinorhino6]

What are you talking about “worst wet race”??? That was a fantastic race. Y’all are like children with no attention span.

[@MIGBMWLOVER]

And apparently they are better than the stewards judging incidents who are ex drivers, ex engineers and team bosses

[@DannySB991]

Just a quick point about your comparison of Perez and Ricciardo, in general I sort of agree I do think part of Checos poor results have been down to not having the confidence in the car. However in his past few races hasn't he been on for a podium in like 2/3 or 3/4 of them? Only to be let down by poor strategy or pit stops? I suppose it's very easy to glance at his last few results and conclude yeah he's just not performing very well, but when you dissect each race individually I think Checo has definitely been stepping up. It just hasn't fell for him in the final phases of the races.

[@ogreman2229]

Absolutely correct. He was on for a podium in Russia if the rain would’ve held off.

[@mk6alex]

Checo has been on P3 in the last races and either luck or miscommunication, they’ve been taken away. Yet you are constantly bashing him. What do you want from him? to beat Max? God this podcast is amazing but sometimes unbearable with the british bias

[@FlorenceDays]

From Norris' onboard you can clearly see two things: that Gasly wasn't sandwiched, there was plenty of space between him, Checo and Alonso. And that he understeered into Alonso virtually wrecking his race. It might have looked unfair, but the penalty was the right call.

[@shannonhadley1135]

Ah. Haven't seen that point of view yet. Would certainly make the decision from the stewards make sense.

[@NardKoning]

I agree, I don't understand why people are so outraged about the penalty. It wasn't completely without reason or something.

[@maggiesun8894]

And Yuki didn’t let Max by immediately under blue flag until the team reminded him (1/2 lap later) had annoyed Max a lot lol

[@Monoceronte]

Yep, these bri´ish are so Bias... a Joke. Points Difference Between Mercedes & RedBull (Verstappen): 2017 - Ricciardo: 300 2018 - Ricciardo: 236 2019 - Gasly&Albon: 322 2020 - Albon: 254 2021 - Perez: 36 (6 races left) If RB can´t win the Constructors Champ... I bet my money the difference will be less than 80 points at the end, both drivers will finish in the top5 (since 2016)... And I´m also pretty sure WTF1 will still be saying Perez had a "mediocre season" and he is worst or same as Albon or Gasly. Ha!

[@roxannelyson7715]

Are you living under a rock, Katy?? Lando has been absolutely getting butchered on social media for being disrespectful.

[@kinnexion]

Exactly. Katy is such an obvious Hamilton fan, it’s actually embarrassing. She annoys me so much with her completely uneducated points

[@MossProGamer98]

The fact that Charles and Carlos got bot A and A* shows how good of a driver pairing Ferrari have

[@Garvm]

And best thing is that they are near in points but they keep working as a team and not fighting each other. Q2 tow was great

[@sanctemify]

People did not give Lando a pass for telling his engineer to shut up! Social media roasted him!

[@kinnexion]

Exactly. Katy is honestly so embarrassing and so obviously a Hamilton fan girl. She makes these points without even knowing or looking up to see if it was true. She’s done this on multiple occasions. I really hope they get her off the podcast but they won’t do that

[@bizarrebunny5579]

But it wasn’t to the same extent

[@kinnexion]

@@bizarrebunny5579 Lando’s was a slip up by a young driver. Lewis Hamilton is an older and more experienced driver who shouldn’t be acting like that, however it’s not just that. It’s his constant two faced attitude, flip flopping personality and his fakeness that pisses people off. He constantly acts like a golden boy, but then acts like a sulking toddler whenever something goes wrong. It’s embarrassing

[@adriangroenendijk3229]

They also didn’t mention the extreme amount of hate Max got after “not checking” on Hamilton after their crash in Monza, while Russel hit bottas on his helmet after he crashed into him at Imola and it was nowhere near the hate max got. Replace Russel with Max and the F1 community would shit themselves and still be bringing it up

[@kinnexion]

@@adriangroenendijk3229 agreed

[@mico6155]

My biggest issue with the Gasly penalty is that it again just encourages those incredibly reckless late breaking dive bombs into corners, where you're technically "ahead" of the driver while you're the reason for the crash to begin with by being overly greedy.

[@Garvm]

Hamilton thinks that if he didn’t stop he could be stopping everyone else and not losing any position. Maybe he is applying for a Ferrari engineering position when he retires.

[@Sha-yw6fb]

yeah maybe the vacancy awaits you more than anyone else...

[@shp27493]

Or maybe he just knows more about driving and tyre management than you. Or maybe not, maybe you are MV's shadow account.

[@surtrgaming1730]

To me, there are 2 questions to ask with the Hamilton strategy: 1. Is there a decent chance that one of the tires blows out and Hamilton has to drive on 3 wheels? (Silverstone 2020 flashbacks) 2. Is there a decent chance that Hamilton loses around 25 seconds because of the tires degrading? (I don't remember the exact gap to Gasly at the time) If the answer to both questions are no, then you are for sure sacrificing 2 positions by making him pit. While, with Hamilton staying and going for the 0 stop strategy, there is a chance that he does not lose any positions, or only 1, because it's really hard to overtake when there is only 1 dry line.

[@jathanmanrique4933]

I’m going to my first F1 race in Austin!

[@kelliross3992]

Same here!!

[@Boerkreeelis]

Double standards: I think a good portion of people don't like Hamilton's dealing with the team this race NOT because of him expressing emotion but specifically on WHY he's expressing it. Lewis is free to want to be involved in the decision making process and I'm sure they will work on better communication but the initial choice from the team to bring him in would have been a good one (better one, arguably), while Lewis just objectively screwed up in that. Speaking in probability, it's absolutely the most stupid idea to A) run the risk of a tire blowout, B) drop off so much that overtakes are even more likely to cost places, C) changeable conditions that screw you over completely if driving on slintermediates. Maybe Bono and the team should communicate that better, maybe Hamilton needs to trust his team, who generally makes the correct call (whether in outcome or in probabilities speaking). Either way, it's a very different situation from Norris telling his engineer to shut up. Hamilton has said that kind of thing in the past as well when full under pressure or in tricky conditions and usually, it's the same amount of people that complain (who generally complain about any team radio, even though it's a high pressure sport and difficult circumstances). It's the fact that there's a difference in the situations that needs to be appreciated.

[@Boerkreeelis]

@@jairajsinghshaktawat6593 I would not use the term 'abused' here, that's not a term to use lightly when describing criticism. But you can certainly criticize him for doing that, and the subsequent complaints to his team. It's also his right (and I urge him to do that) to ignore those criticisms completely. Moreover, some leniency given the difficult circumstances of driving an f1 car are certainly welcome, but it's still an acceptable thing to criticize him for. If I saw other drivers do this against a team that brought them as much as Merc did Hamilton, I would criticize them too.

[@4ntoCatch]

@@Boerkreeelis lol dont use 'abused ' but the p word in the penultimate sentence is ok .

[@Boerkreeelis]

@@4ntoCatch I actually completely missed that, my bad. Indeed just as bad, and no need for it. Comment section of youtube on the phone is so much worse to work with, you can't see the whole comment. Should do this on the computer in future.

[@4ntoCatch]

@@Boerkreeelis no worries made me laugh

[@tonTeufel]

The point about Hamilton listening to his team in Russia but not in Turkey is just wrong. Hamilton didn't do anything differently in Turkey than he did in Russia. The team told him to pit, he said no and blew them off the first time around, both in Russia and in Turkey. The only difference is in Russia the team made him come in a lap later, in Turkey they then agreed to him staying out.

[@franciscoferreira6672]

Well if the team orders the driver to come in they can only refuse once, if they refuse twice they can get black flagged or a penalty normally a drive through Hamilton couldn’t say no to the 2nd tone they called him in.

[@Boerkreeelis]

@@franciscoferreira6672 ?? Where on earth did you get that idea from? They can ignore it all they want, why on earth would the FIA specify a rule that you have listen to your team?? Stewards? Yes. Race control? Sure. Team? No. It's simply that being called in twice generally means your team might have information you simply do not, and they can make the call. But you can still ignore it all you want, without punishment from the FIA, although you probably screw up the relationship with your team.

[@franciscoferreira6672]

@@Boerkreeelis Go read on the FIA website, that has been a rule since 2017, if you dont know the rules go study bud

[@Boerkreeelis]

@@franciscoferreira6672 Nope, and for the simple reason that teams have no say on penalties, drive through, etc. You can get a penalty for not fulfilling the pitstop requirement, but that's again not a team penalty. And if you had half a brain, you'd know this because drivers repeatedly ignore their team calling them in to pit. Maybe you're confused with teams telling drivers to stop for safety reasons, for which they are required to stop (seatbelts not working, etc.). But ignoring a team telling you to pit is in no way illegal, and in no way leads to an fia-sanctioned penalty. But I'm sure you have aaaall the evidence right there to prove me wrong right? Right?

[@Boerkreeelis]

@@franciscoferreira6672 Maybe you're stupid enough to confuse your idiotic made-up rule with rule 24.4(b), where a driver has to come in when he has been given the wrong tires (what happened to Russell in his 1 race for Merc). This, of course, has nothing to do with the team deciding to give a drive-through penalty, as you claimed, as that simply does not exist, but my guess is that someone who shows a considerable lack of intelligence like yourself could easily make that mistake.

[@turkishmassive]

I have the feeling that Merc has found or was sand bagging but on the straights the Merc was silly fast and it had a much bigger wing than RB has anyone else noticed this? since the summer break the Merc has been improving each race.

[@hiran4935]

Yep RB is messing up a lot, they don't seem to understand the car like Merc

[@NardKoning]

It's like they found another load of horsepower in the Merc engine.

[@scottmeredith3359]

Love Katy, but in reference to the Gasly incident there's no way he could have just decided to stop understeering and just steer into Perez instead.

[@eggman1006]

Since it looks like they somehow hate Checo, of course they dont have any problem to sacrifice him

[@edijzerman5880]

@@eggman1006 they loved checo

[@luis-yx6jz]

Bottas: 9 podiums and one deserved win (should be on monza). Perez: 3 podiums and one undeserved win.

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

29:30 difference to last year is that Hamilton had done 8 laps one the wet at the start of the race when the car is heaviest. Furthermore it was wetter if I am not mistaken, which probably extended the tires life. Matt should really look at some data before talking about stuff, because he has 0 arguments to back anything up other than what he thinks And saying "if Esteban did it, I could have done it" is kinda funny, because even if Esteban did it, the strategy was not great. I mean even if he kept doing 1.35.xyz he would have lost 2.5 to 3s a lap to the drivers behind him. So I can't see how staying out could have worked better. (and lets be honest the last few laps he wouldn't have done a 1.35 but more like 1.36+ kzbin.info/www/bejne/qp21qIWXrrGDf7s&ab_channel=Mercedes-AMGPetronasFormulaOneTeam

[@Garvm]

And with the big risk of having a puncture or a blast tire and getting 0 points in the race. That would be devastating.

[@bradendocherty4816]

Great work as always guys!!!

[@nellikorpi7937]

I had a great time watching the gp, even this season there have been a lot more dull races

[@gulceakpinar8280]

Matt: Probably worst wet race we have seen in a while. ME: Spa Matt?

[@Djungelurban]

Personally I think being upset about not being able to drink is a way more valid complaint than an ambiguous strategy call...

[@PunkHardSisters]

When the 1st few drivers to pit changed to new inters, on the Italian broadcast Mario Isola commented on the state of the tyres saying they were worn down to the canvas, so Pirelli told the teams the inters would not last the full distance. So yeah...

[@tyriquebenn9209]

Not me staring at my notifications waiting for this😭😂🧡🖤

[@hyper3180]

Making my Monday’s great once again!!

[@gray5374]

After a terrible Monday this is exactly what I need, thank you ❤️

[@InekeD81]

Of course I don’t know why you had a terrible Monday, but I wish you all the best.

[@devashishrakshit1]

Seeing Katie on Mondays always makes our days

[@nationharris]

Highlight of my Monday 💚

[@Oqver]

"Consistency agreement" is exactly what F1 needs :D :D

[@andreasgunnarsson7276]

Max has 2 DNF ehre Hamilton took points. Sad if thats gonna decide. A Pirelli tire in Baku...

[@tonTeufel]

No, he doesn't. The only race where Hamilton scored and Verstappen didn't was at Silverstone

[@misters3681]

@@tonTeufel Not a DNF but Hungary was also pretty bad for Max.

[@GewoonGw]

also hamilton lost 25 points because he fucked up where verstappen had bad luck (baku)

[@aliu67]

@@tonTeufel he could have 10 more points then lewis in baku if his tyre didn't blow up

[@GewoonGw]

@@jairajsinghshaktawat6593 Yeah i know, i was agreeing with you xp

[@ChristianNelsonn]

Do people _actually_ think this race was boring? Upvote if you enjoyed it.

[@carchocolate93]

Honestly, I noticed tsunoda having a good race several times. Did well in quali too

[@the_racing.roundup8085]

great podcast.

[@forevaazone389]

55:40 you could also argue that because Pierre served his 5 second penalty, Hamilton was safe to Gasly for 5 seconds longer than he should have been so Merc would have pitted him X Laps earlier, potentially giving Hamilton enough time to wear in and take advantage of the new inters also, potenitally catching back up and passing Charles though, so i do feel like this arguement goes both ways, of course depending on the # of laps earlier that Lewis would have been pitted

[@aaqilnizam3374]

im a new follower, so i dont know the history of the podcast. But i think it would be cool if you guys gave points to each other for correct race result predictions and have a world prediction championships between the 3 of you

[@amanwalia1840]

0:01 tommy smiling is the best thing abt this podcast 🙃😂

[@SuicidalLemonade]

pretty sure lewis was wrong both times, it's just he listened to the team after 1 lap instead of 8.

[@LKING14]

I think most people are missing the point as to why Hamilton was angry at Mercedes. When he was told to pit at the end of the race he was complicit with the team despite arguing laps before, but instantly as he came out he was furious, which tells me Merc didn't tell him he was going to loss 2 position. Even Button mentioned this in commentary that shows me that Merc tricked Hamilton into pitting which is a crazy breach of trust (probably by with holding information about where he would end up). That to me is a bigger talking point than anything else that happened this race.

[@umangsrivastava9651]

Ferrari driver lineup is OP🔥🔥🔥

[@stoempert]

Let's hope Merc dominance last couple races was about the tracks but i'm afraid not. They seem to have found some speed somewhere.

[@ajaye457]

Guys for audio listeners, seems to be less of an issue on KZbin but definitely on Spotify, Matt and Tommy are really quiet and Katy is much louder, could you guys do something perhaps to match the volume between the three of you? Go from having to listen on almost max volume for Matt and Tommy and then scrambling to lower it for Katy. Great podcast as always!

[@DeepakKumar-uj6br]

the intro of wtf1 sounds like how BIG-e sounds when new day intro plays W W E🤣

[@racechassis]

I wonder if we can choose our own cam during live stream. I feel like a better direction would have really shown how good this race was

[@KimiButNoDrink]

I really wished Alonso didn't get shoved out, man what could have been...

[@bjarnonegames5394]

Tf Alonso literally destroyed micks chances of a higher finish by just ramming him and gasly got an undeserved penalty because he misjudged a corner

[@allenrocks5439]

@@bjarnonegames5394 The penalty for Gasly was a bit too harsh,, man was sandwiched .

[@bjarnonegames5394]

@@allenrocks5439 agreed he couldn't do much there. If anyone should have been penalized its alonso

[@AshwinSivakumar]

What's the obsessive compulsion to evaluate a race as boring or exciting... its just like other sports with nail biting game/match finishes and some one sided from get go... why does all races HAVE to be exciting for some F1 fans?

[@selder_7]

Dropping Giovinazzi for Zhou would be pointless. Unless it’s just a ploy to take his 30 mil euros and then swap to Piastri or Pourchaire the next year

[@caesaraugustus3749]

Piastri is probably going to be at Alpine after he does a year as a test driver for them next season

[@tensevo]

2021 Turkish GP was 10 laps too short.

[@kgowins97]

The thing about Kimi yelling is because he’s so quite and soft spoken outside of the car. The dude is called the iceman because of it. Then he’s in the car yelling like he’s stuck in t 5 PM traffic. Everyone else shows emotion outside the car besides Kimi that’s what makes his radios funny

[@legacywatchguy8333]

Maybe Bottas should thank Checo for blocking Lewis so well...

[@t1_hishin310]

Even without Checo, Lewis would never have caught up to Bottas.

[@legacywatchguy8333]

@@t1_hishin310 "Valtteri, this is James..." 😀

[@mpolinsk22]

Matt saying he wants this to come down to the wire reminds me again how much I really really don't want it to end up with a margin that was affected by the Spa debacle. I can see a huge asterisk on this season if that "race" ends up being the decider.

[@d4t6ix]

Anyone who's got a problem with that should have qualified better in the first place.

[@mpolinsk22]

@@d4t6ix Hah, to which I then say, anyone that doesn't have a problem with this should then be demanding points be awarded retroactively for every qualifying session from the rest of the races. They don't give points for quali, but they did at Spa only so they could collect their event money from the track and fans. Qualifying is not designed to determine a championship and absolutely shouldn't here.

[@kinnexion]

@@mpolinsk22 to which I will say the sheer number of bad luck moments Max has had this season meant he fully deserved a bit of good luck with Spa. What goes around comes around. He was rewarded for his terrible luck. Arguing against that is kinda ridiculous

[@mpolinsk22]

@@kinnexion Just to be clear, I'm rooting for Max and RB. But I wouldn't want to win something like this and I don't want him to either. And for history's sake, I don't want Lewis beaten/denied his 8th by this. It's not the least bit sporting. This isn't on track luck, it's the opposite as there was no race. This is arbitrarily affecting the results of the WC for the sole purpose of extracting money from fans and a racetrack. If Lewis has an engine failure or some other cause for a DNF and Max extends that way, great, good luck, fair play. The events of Spa are not that.

[@kinnexion]

@@mpolinsk22 yes but if Lewis Wins the championship this season and gets an 8th world title and breaks the record then the huge asterisk over it will be him taking out his championship rival at silverstone when his rival was firmly in the driver’s seat for the season. The same way a lot of people scrutinise Senna for what happened with Prost in Japan in 1990, Lewis would deserve to be scrutinised for playing very dirty and winning the championship with an insane amount of luck

[@kirstinp3742]

Sad I missed the live version 😭

[@pops4843]

My race weekend is now over

[@wilseph1]

Chuffed for the Porridge Boss on World Porridge Day!

[@vwrick32]

Longest “WTF1 Podcast” ever, Matty. LoL

[@roguetrooper5401]

Nothing can be worse than the race that was not a race

[@Thomas-jl8xr]

If Verstappen doesn’t win this championship, then he is one of the unluckiest title contenders ever imo looking at Baku, Silverstone, Hungary and you could even take Imola in this

[@factsonly3905]

He won imola how was that unlucky

[@eggman1006]

@@factsonly3905 Cause Hamilton could return into the race thanks to the red flag

[@teipeu9033]

@@factsonly3905 Without that red flag, Hamilton is a lap down and finishes 7th or 8th at best.

[@BuuGz86]

Even though Bottas drove an great race, he really was lucky with the track conditions...I mean he is really bad in the rain and this time he was pretty good because the track was grippy even though it was wet, so much so that even Jenson was surprised how much grip there was... Also the track not drying up played also a major role in him keeping that place.

[@Traxxmaciek]

I really hate the fact that Hamilton is getting praise for what he did. He made the mistake of not listening to the team and decided to stay out. By that time, the ship had already sailed

[@PlamenDrop]

Imagine: Final race of the season. Hamilton leads points by 7. Max leads the race with Lewis in 2nd with 3rd place 30 seconds back. Lewis pits on 2nd to last lap for a fastest lap run on fresh tires. Lewis gets the extra point for fastest lap and leads takes the points lead as they cross the line. Perez puts in a ripper lap and takes away Lewis' lap to give Red Bull the driver championship on the last lap of the season.

[@60037894]

Why does Matt hate checo? Why? Why?

[@magrodriguez1571]

Matt is a 🤡

[@heetcrusher2880]

My god you guys are negative nancy's. Just leave it that Checo had a great race and your wonder boi could not get pass him after he tried to run him off the track into pit lane. But this well checo hasn't done his job this year, I can only think of one other race he did good, Good lord.

[@amayranimedrano8559]

X2

[@nestr2007]

X3

[@eggman1006]

X4

[@rubberonasphalt]

x5

[@eggman1006]

@@AkilahHussain169 Tbh its the same for me

[@Ravakeksis]

Great race for 2nd drivers

[@HardestLadHere]

Couldn’t agree more with matt here I genuinely thought hamilton was saving his tyres the minute he got into P5 and was thinking of the long game

[@wilseph1]

Turkish Grand Prix the day before Thanksgiving in Canada.

[@HBee5]

I want to see the full on board footage of Vettel's lap on mediums 😅

[@johanfredriksvendsen8482]

Was it not in one of the Red Bull Ring races that Charles absolutely took out Gasly after coming back onto the track and did not even get an orange exclamation mark next to his name? I absolutely do not think Gasly deserved a penalty for his very unfortunate touch onto Alonso, a touch that I would classify as so small that it in any other weather conditions would have not resulted in anything (or possibly a complete tyre faillure, but probably the former).

[@adityagalgali7251]

TommyWTF1 ended MattyWTF1 P.S Thanks for including my prediction!

[@skylark1024]

Ocon getting a C is bit harsh. They think he didn't have a challenging race. He fell behind Vettel managing his tyres, and crawled back Vettel from 5 sec to less than a second. Then made 2-3 attacks on Vettel, almost getting him one time too. More surprising thing was, when Sainz pitted and came behind him, he wasn't able to overtake on fresh inters on Ocon instantly. He held off Sainz attacks for 5-7 laps. On then 45 laps old inters. And the fact that there was no SC/VSC/DNF whole race, only meant he had to manage his tyres for whole race without letting up once. This was more than a C class performance for sure.

[@attakorns]

Not sure I agree with the mandatory pitstop. I think in some places it will be a no-brainer hard tyres 0 pitstop situation (thinking Monaco, Monza, etc) but I honestly don't think that's the fastest strategy on most circuits. I'd like to see it being trailled for a couple of races (or perhaps 1 season) with the exception of the Monacos, the Monzas, to see how it goes at various circuits as if it works, that could open up strategy unpredictability.

[@ChrisAce117]

On top of varlteri's more secure future, there's also rumors that andretti motorsports might be buying out sauber/Alfa getting control of the F1 team.

[@rubywest5166]

“Worst wet race ever” Other than Belgium, obviously

[@privateer2584]

Nah... I was at the 2005 US Grand Prix...

[@rubywest5166]

@@privateer2584 I know there were a load of beer cans thrown on the track, but I don't think it quite reached a "wet" track!

[@figura1987]

About the double standard issue: honestly, I think no driver should be crybabying in the team radio or to the press, the engineers are making sure the driver is being both safe and fast

[@ben1869]

Matt, what headset do you use?

[@stevenlarratt3638]

Next years intro will be an hour long in itself 😂

[@TJRsongs]

Shame that Matt has lost his job, I enjoyed watching him. I hope the new guy gives Tommy the respect he’s due.

[@karkule5919]

I'm surprised none of the teams had USED intermediates.

[@frederickodwyer9086]

Hiya guys, have never really listened to the podcast to the end but can someone explain how abcdef1 works. Thanks!

[@thedislikebutton3897]

They rate each drivers performance with a 'a-f' grade with a being really good and f being bad

[@yachthvac469]

The higher the humidity, the less water evaporation will occur.