Good, fair review. I shot NRA silhouette for years, and now shoot the occasional Rimfire Precision match. I never had a target 22lr that liked a clean barrel, they all did better with fouled barrel. I would shoot one ammo type, bore snake the barrel, then shoot at least 5 if not 10 rounds of the new ammo to foul the barrel again before firing test groups. I bought a CZ 455, which came with the boyds stock, and I had to sand out the barrel channel for a true free float. That may have been an issue with yours. I finally changed the 455 over to a MDT chassis and it tightened the groups up a bit more. With SK rifle match ammo I can now count on groups about 3/4 MOA (+/- 1/4") pretty consistently. BUT, I do see guys doing well at matches with the RPR Rimfire. My favorite is a guy I've shot with whom uses a Savage model 94, and the dang thing LOVES Blaser ammo...... Truly, he shoots one hole groups with Cheap ammo. Lucky SOB....
@toml8023 жыл бұрын
"Insanely expensive for .22LR" Fast forward to 2021....
@tonypimm89404 ай бұрын
@toml802. Fast forward again to 2024.
@billhawver18073 жыл бұрын
Two of my absolute favorite rifles. Great review!!
@tlalexander36 ай бұрын
I was in between these two yesterday and I ended up going with the CZ 455. The CZ455 at my store was a varmit model with the threaded heavy barrel and it has the wooden thumbhole stock. The action is tremendously smoother on the CZ than the Ruger. I didn't test the trigger on the Ruger, but I also love the trigger on the CZ. I liked it how it came out of the box and then found that the trigger is able to be adjusted. I adjusted it down a little and I am very pleased. I zeroed my CZ at a 30 yard indoor range since it was snowing. It did very well, but it was tough to get very good groups since I didn't have a full table to rest the butt of the rifle on. I still keyholed usually 2-3 of 5 shots. After I got home, I looked in the box of the CZ and they included the paper where they tested it in factory at 50 meters. All shots were easily within a .4 ish or less group. I am excited to see what it will do whenever I get it to our outdoor range and can properly stabilize the rear
@702BattleBorn3 жыл бұрын
Yo Ray, thanks for the fair and what sounds like an unbiased review. I enjoy that there is no marketing just the facts. Keep up the great work and wishing more prosperity to your channel. Mahalo
@willin24 жыл бұрын
Great video & comparison. Thanks for doing it. I've seen folks weigh their .22 cartridges and then shoot the ones closest in weight (surprising the variances), for more consistency. I'd love to see this comparison done again, but with the cartridges selected and used, being the ones that were all the exact - or closest to exact - weight.
@2fastlm4 жыл бұрын
Just tested my AR22 I built with a CMMG 16 inch barrel tonight at 100 yards, cci standard velocity at 100 yards was a 1 inch group! Eley target was also very accurate. My Ruger RPR 17 HMR is a tack driver also, sold my Savage A17 because it would not group. Love your videos!!
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jesse and thanks for watching. Every once in a while both the CZ and the RPR will print sub moa. Maybe once out of 3 separate groups. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@scottmccall38903 жыл бұрын
I got the RPR based on your comparison from this video and am extremely happy with it.....Im getting good groups with the american eagle ammo ......although its favorite ammo is the federal match
@rettopi4 жыл бұрын
This video has definitely made my mind up for me, was thinking about purchasing the Ruger, now am definitely going to get one...
@pb7379-j2k3 жыл бұрын
Same
@edjett26314 жыл бұрын
Back between 2005 and 2010 I shot thousands of rounds of .22 LR. I noticed that when changing from one ammo to another it would take between 10 and 20 rounds before the new ammo would settle in and shoot to its potential. I believe that was due to differences in bullet lubes and "seasoning" the bore. My favorite and best shooting rifle is my CZ 452FS. Awesome shooting rifle.
@scarbourgeoisie4 жыл бұрын
I've owned both and still have my 455 and have moved up to a 457 LRP. I moved up from the 22LR RPR to the 17 HMR. The RPR in 17 shoots amazing at 100 yards with regular ammo, but gun just felt cheap and the action was sloppy. I'm done with Rugers and I'm sticking with CZ's for rimfire. They just seem to feed ammo better than Rugers and I'm happy with the accuracy.
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean Austin. The RPR does feel very cheap in the hands. Hard to beat CZ quality.
@MM-rr1kp2 жыл бұрын
i was making the rounds locally lookimg for a ruger american or precision, looked ok but yea felt cheap. never even knew about the cz rimfire line. saw a new 455 ultramatch on the rack amd the quality was so obvious i bought it on the spot. beautiful grain on the wood too. amd its a shooter. real nice
@justgregm78434 жыл бұрын
Thanks for nice video and information. In trying my RPR, I found it prefers stardard velocity ammo. My groups were the same shape. The size was larger due to a 70 year old body. But, it is fun trying.
@paunchouspilot67574 жыл бұрын
My first rifle was the CZ 452. At 50 yards with Wolf Match Target I shot a fly that was annoying me while target shooting. I have an inexpensive bushnell scope on it and have found SK or Wolf to be the best ammo for it. I do agree with your points favoring the RPR over the CZ though. Thanks for the comparison .
@JJ1570211 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. Great review for a bunch of us that would not like to invest so much in a rifle for just fun. I particularly like the fact that you tested them at 100 yards. I hear so much that 22lr are no good for 100 yard shooting but I dont enjoy shooting a rifle at less than that distance.
@franktiro12304 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for the review. I've been looking for a .22 lr bolt rifle and hadn't considered the Ruger until now. Stay safe and continue providing the great videos.
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Frank T Thanks Frank and thank you for watching.
@stanfrinak56164 жыл бұрын
My RPR has a Vortex diamondback tactical scope 6 x 24 50 scope and I tested it at an indoor 100 yard range. The best ammo that I found for 100 yards was RWS R100, $16 per box. With the scope at x24 I shot 140 shots in 28 five shot groups. Including all flyers the average for the 28 five shot groups was 0.961and the average for the last target with 5 five shots was 0.708, practice did help. I like using an indoor range for initial testing because it gives you a better idea what the real accuracy is for the gun
@motoparty13 жыл бұрын
Taking a break from large calibers until ammo is readily avail and my justification to get the RPR, CZ with a 24” barrel in a chassis and build a Bergara in a Masterpiece Arms chassis. Which ever one shoots CCI standard or bulk ammo best will be my go to. I’m really enjoying and appreciate your site. If ever in Hawaii look me up. We don’t have 1000 yard ranges here but putting 5 in one hole at 100 is the goal and using the know your limits target at 50 yards is the training.
@ag4allgood2 жыл бұрын
X-Ring , really liked this cold out of the boxes shoot off with the different 22LR ammo. I've read about quality issues on the RPR but Ruger does have great customer service. Plus I've already bought a 10 / 22 Takedown in 18.5". Bolt action for precision might be my next rifle. Its a tough decision but I'm leaning on the RPR.
@hesa36564 жыл бұрын
Thank You Sir! I could watch this test several times without being bored. I noticed the CZ trigger seemed to have less movement. I am interested in trying the various ammo in my Savage Arms trainer purchased from CMP so long ago. I will face the same challenge to mount a scope.
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Thanks HE SA. I really like the Ruger more than I thought I would. Rick was so impressed he bought one as well. It has been a great training tool.
@jasoncarpenter41164 жыл бұрын
I have a love for CZ's too and have been wanting one in a chassis when I found out that Savage has a precision B22 rimfire in a MDT Chassis. I just recently purchased one and it was around $500. I can't compare the two accuracy wise since I don't own the RPR, but the Savage shoots excellent.
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Jason Carpenter Great to know Jason. I might have to look into that one.
@TimBiagi4 жыл бұрын
What is GREAT? 1 moa? I really like the looks of the savage, but I don't want to buy another rim fire that will disappoint.
@BlueTJay4 жыл бұрын
I own a CZ455 with a 27 3/8" barrel. I use Browning 1435 f/s 40 gr ammo and indoor 100 yard range i get 10 shots in 1" group. My scope Nikon 3-9x40 Prostaff. Total cost with mounts and scope $550. The CZ 455 is an amazingly accurate rifle.
@joaquin-jacknava26964 жыл бұрын
Great video Ray. I like the RPR all the way. Have a great weekend and be safe. Thanks for all the great stuff you do for the channel.
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joaquin I appreciate you watching. Stay safe and healthy sir!
@Quality_Guru2 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that both of the scopes cost 3x the cost of the rifle. I did like the variables used in the ammo selections.
@1970HondaCL1004 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I highly recommend the RPR in .22WMR. Eats CCI maxi-mags best, not so much the Winchester stuff.
@thesaint15174 жыл бұрын
I love the CZ rifles although I have never owned one but my experience with their pistols have been awesome. My experience with the RPR has been great and looks like my rifle loves the CCI standard velocity. The groups at 100 yds with the combination seems to be in my case the way to go for plinking since I am just a once a week range shooter. Loved your viedo as usual and please, keep them coming.
@lloydb2483 жыл бұрын
I don't think you can go wrong with CZ
@MrJoeFoley3 жыл бұрын
Great review! I just got my RPR. Waiting on my glass. I will be competing with it.
@mattchrome66434 жыл бұрын
I own a 455 as well as an american target, couldn't choose only one :) both good rimfire options. The cz is happy with fed target and some norma stuff I found here locally for cheap. The ruger eats up almost anything. I often think about the difference in the inside diameter of the barrels, I have heard cz makes them tighter than the competitors and also diameter on the rounds will vary slightly between manufacturers. Loved you're video
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt. I really like them both but the Ruger does fit me a little better. Nothing shoots like my Anschutz but it is a single feed target model. 😞
@stephenbimson84814 жыл бұрын
One other benefit of the RPR is that it shares the mag pattern with the 10/22. Cheap mags to get and almost every has or knows someone that has a 10/22. I've actually found my RPR like Aguilia Standard Velocity about as much as any other ammo which saves quite a bit of cash. Now if only Ruger would come out with a bolt action variant of the charger for a backpack gun I'd be all set!
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Great point Stephen. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@lonz734 жыл бұрын
I also have a Ruger Precision Rimfire and mine groups at 100 yds better than the Tenex used in the video although I’ve run several hundred rounds of it and the barrel is seasoned to the lube it has on it. Thanks for the great vid, stay safe and have a good weekend!
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
You too lonz73 and thanks for watching. I think jumping around with all of the different types of ammo isn’t giving these rifles the justice that is due to them. They both shoot well but I have been playing around with a ton of different types of ammo in the last few days.
@charllejones65694 жыл бұрын
Comments by others confirm my suspicion that these rifles just have bad barrels. Like to see them tested after being re-crowned.
@14bonanza4 жыл бұрын
I never bother with 100 yards with my 22’s here in Phoenix due to the constant wind at the range. My RPR, at 50 yards, on the rare calm days, will consistently shoot all holes touching with Federal Ultra Match. I have tried 20 different types of ammo with the RPR, and by far the worst is anything made by Tennex. Go figure. Unfortunately, UM is no longer being made. When switching ammo, however, I run 5 rounds of the new load before shooting for groups. My RPR is my choice. Better than my Anschutz.
@raymondoreilly75694 жыл бұрын
I have both rifles, and the CZ455 love the CCI standard. In the Ruger Precision I use Lapua centre x, and I have it out too 300 yards on a 2 inch steel target. The Ruger is designed for that type of shooting. Lapua long range match are over €20 a box and I haven't used them yet. I am using SK long range match this weekend and I will see if the out shoot the Lapua centre x, but I don't think so. They are all very good at 100 yards
@Judge_Dredd29 күн бұрын
Well I run a barrel tuner on an Anschutz 1413, to improve the group, different velocities change the resonance, so needs adjustment beyond 25 yards.
@sawhill7294 жыл бұрын
I sold my CZ and one of my model 29's, and built a Tony Kidd 10/22. CCI Std. velocity shoot one inch in no wind conditions all day long.
@jackson74214 жыл бұрын
Great comparison Ray! I am really happy with my RPR.
@chrisp5564 жыл бұрын
I've noticed it takes a minimum of shooting 10 rounds when switching ammo with different lube before they start grouping consistently. I watch a bunch of your videos and this one wasn't done properly comparing accuracy.
@no-sway37094 жыл бұрын
I concur. Great point.
@markmtbrider4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say properly, as it was even, just I will say even with high power air rifle, takes 3 or 5 shots to " season " or settle things down when switching brands and weights of the same brands. I dont know why, just does.
@gamelord10004 жыл бұрын
Missing the point. He wasn't doing a comparison to see which ammo was most accurate, he was comparing the rifles to see how they shoot against each other. Both rifles had the same criteria when tested and both came out pretty equal. I think his review was spot on for what he was going for. Now, if he was testing to see which rifle was more accurate than the other, he obviously would need to properly clean the rifle between ammo changes and run a mag or two of the new ammo through to really get the rifle properly coated and such, then shoot groups. Problem here is now you are just testing which ammo works best for what barrel/rifle, not really testing if the RPR is better than the CZ. Reason is (hypothetically) that the CZ may end up shooting ultra tight groups with the Federal while the RPR may shoot ultra tight groups with the Tenex. Having a certain ammo match up perfectly with a certain rifle/barrel/twist rate will always shoot tighter groups than another brand ammo/rifle that doesn't match up very well. You are not going to be able to watch a KZbin video and find that one holy grail of ammo that out shoots all others because it really depends on what your particular rifle likes. Obviously, shooting high quality ammo will almost always out group cheap garbage and high quality rifles will /usually/ out perform bargain basement rifles but when you get to the quality of both the RPR and the CZ or Voodoo or any of the other high end rifles, it will usually come down to the shooter and lots of testing to see what ammo just so happens to be right for that particular setup. Some things I would like to know that were missed is how the ergonomics were between each one, how the grip felt, how comfortable were they to shoot and how were the triggers, pull weight, break etc. How were the mags, ease of use etc. You can always mod-upgrade but am I going to have to buy another $400+ trigger pack to get it to shoot right? If so then it really isn't a $450.00 rifle, now it is a $900.00 rifle (to compare it fairly against the other). If I am going to end up spending $900.00, would I be better off going with another brand that is in the $900.00 range? Still, great review. The RPR looks very promising.
@PlayingWithFireOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
@@gamelord1000 it is I've got one, its a tack driver with most ammo. I haven't found THE ammo for it yet, but I'm trying!
@chrisp5563 жыл бұрын
@@gamelord1000 no he was comparing 2 different rifles with different ammo to see which was more accurate. Without seasoning the barrel's when switching lube types the rifle will not shoot to it's potential with that brand of ammo. I've noticed this in my Savage Mark II, Ruger American Target and my Vudoo V22.
@GeorgeSemel4 жыл бұрын
The CZ-455 would be a way better squirrel killer, headshots. Here where I live my fall squirrel hunting is the primer for my deer hunting. The Season limit is 40 squirrels, and I limit myself to one box of 22 HP to take my 40, my personal best was 40 squirrels with 44 shots. With a Browning/Winchester M-52 that they made in the 1990s fixed 4x Leupold! Ruger's 10/22 is another good reliable rifle, and my old favorite is still the Remington Nylon 66, Light and accurate, I put a lot of small game on the table with that one.
@mikegardner94494 жыл бұрын
Switching between ammo is tricky. My experience, like the guy below is that 10 to 20 rounds need to be fired before the rifle settles down. Even better would be a good cleaning then 20 rounds.
@stewmanmilner78434 жыл бұрын
Great review thanks. Always appreciated
@malcolmgary10864 жыл бұрын
My current preferred 22lr at 50 and 100 yards is SK Long Range AFTER I have used a Neal Waltz resizing die on the ammo. The die does two things that I identify as improving the precision (no, I have no targets to demonstrate). One, resizing ensures that for 360 degrees the 22lr driving rings are a consistent 0,225 in., and two, that the rings are 0.225 in. to ensure positive contact with the rifling grooves. Someone noted in the comments "remove the wax" from the SK 22lr ammo. SK does not use a wax lube; a light oil is used as with all German manufactured 22lr's that I have experience with. CCI and Eley 22lr use a wax
@breakdown71534 жыл бұрын
I can consistently get a 3/4 inch group at 100 yards with my Ruger rimfire and CCI standard. It tends to prefer that ammo over other high cost stuff.
@wilfredsalacup781010 ай бұрын
Excellent review sir, it answers some of my questions.
@fumasterchu124 жыл бұрын
All things equal, I'd have to go with the Ruger also. It shoot just as well if not better and had a shorter barrel. As far as the ammo goes, that Federal Match did about as well as the ELEE TenX. Great comparison, and who doesn't like plinking with some 22LR. ~All the best, brother~
@pecosjane4 жыл бұрын
Question (not trying to be another internet expert); I have read - allegedly - that the ‘optimal’ barrel length for .22 lr is 16”. Maximum velocity is attained at 16” and any barrel longer than 16 is then slowing and destabilizing the bullet. (according to I can’t remember who, but someone who propounds to know more than me). Is it possible the RPR performs better than the CZ because it has a shorter barrel? It would be interesting to see the RPR competing against itself with three barrels of 16 “, 18” and 20”, just for giggles...
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
That would be a good but pricey experiment. I have heard that as well but I have an old savage with a 22” bbl that will outshoot both the CZ and the RPR regularly. Great comment
@gamelord10004 жыл бұрын
I think it has to do more with how hot the ammo is than the barrel length. Hotter ammo and magnum rounds may have higher velocity with a 20" barrel than a 16". With most off-the-shelf ammo, a 16" barrel is optimal.
@StrangeGarage Жыл бұрын
My RPR did about as well on standard velocity CCI as it did with eley Contact SS. Both under 1" at 50 yards, about 1.25" at 100 yards.
@timothywright1318 Жыл бұрын
I love my RPR! I hit sub 1 inch groups consistently at 100 yards with CCI Standard Velocity.
@runningmadphoto19473 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison video. I’m very please with my RPR .17HMR. for varmint hunting. I get excellent subMoa groups, at 100yds, with Federal VMax 17 grain. I’ve tried both the Winchester and CCI in 17 grain. Federal still shoots the best, with CCI a close second. Plus, get consistent/confident groups out to 200yds.
@bltefftАй бұрын
I don't have a CZ, but my Ruger American is a flat-out great shooter - i'm the limiting factor. I have a Q Erector silencer at the end of it (my pellet guns are loader). I shoot either 45 gr CCI Suppressors, (rated at 970 FPS ) or 40 Gr Federal suppressor ammo, (also rated at 970 FPS). From the American both rounds are hitting about 985 FPS. My splatter target is in front of three 2x12 squares and behind those is a 20-inch x 1/2 inch metal gong The Federal round routinely rings the gong (shots clean thru the wood), the CCI's don't. The federals also shoot clean through a squirrel, the CCI'S don't, but the CCI's simply hammer it. I've seen squirrels stagger away from a hit by a Federal and then die. The squirrels hit by the CCI's, don't stagger anywhere, they die immediately. My American is topped with a Nikon 3x9-40 Prostaff scope. I 'd one day like to get a CZ 457, but they a scarce around here
@alexspencer89044 жыл бұрын
I have a CZ457 Provarmint SR. I ditched the boyd stock for a KRG Bravo, running an Area 419 30 MOA rail, and yodave trigger spring. It's been surprisingly accurate and I normally get 1/4-1/2" at 50 yards depending on ammunition and how much it likes a certain lot. I had a lot of Wolf Match Extra that would print 1/4" consistently @ 50yds and had a SD of 7fps. It was the most consistent lot I've ever had. I've had really good luck with SK Standard Plus and SK rifle match (red box) and they have gotten close to that lot of Wolf but not quite as consistent. I mainly run this gun in the local precision rimfire matches and quite honestly a half minute 22lr is a bit overkill but it does feel good when you bunghole a paper stage. But I have thought about throwing a lilja barrel on my 457 to take it to the next level, but considering I'm buying a ZCO ZC527 and getting my rifle built this month it'll probably get put back for a little while longer. Great shooting and stay safe!
@TimBiagi4 жыл бұрын
How is your trigger on your 457?
@ReubenOaks844 жыл бұрын
Hope you and yours are doing well and staying safe. I plan on buying a Ruger Precision Rimfire soon but I want the .17 HMR version. Thanks for the videos
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Reuben. I hope the same for you and your family. Thank you for watching and stay safe.
@marcelthibodeau9577 Жыл бұрын
Me and my shooting partner have these rifles, me the ruger and him the cz. They are very close in accuracy, he’s probably a little better of a shot than me. The cz is much lighter but I find the ruger is a little more fun and comfortable when shooting as you can really dial in the cheek weld and eye relief.
@stevenboggs50764 жыл бұрын
For the casual shooter, at those prices I suggest a look at the Ruger American Rimfire - Talo Edition.
@garyelderman12294 жыл бұрын
If it's as good asmine in .223. Don't bother buying ammo for it and use it as a club. Randy Wakeman says it shoots a pattern not a group.
@musketmerve14364 жыл бұрын
Feeling an rpr is a possibility in my future. U r a bad influence in a good way. Thx Ray.
@jerryjohnsonii41814 жыл бұрын
Awesome video , X-Ring. All i have is a Savage Mark II with a high power Simmons scope on it. I'm hitting the bull's-eye at 100 yards with cheap 22 Lr Remington gold , but 5 shoot grouping like that Ruger RPR , Nope !!!!! I guess i'm going to have to upgrade ,when this COVID 19 virus is over.
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jerry. One of my favorites is also my Savage mark 2. It has been a great rifle since day 1
@jerryjohnsonii41814 жыл бұрын
That's So Cool !!!!!! Over time i have bought about 12 magazines for my Savage Mark II.
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
LOL! I only have 2 of them. I have a 5 round and 10 round mag. I need to get a few more.
@jerryjohnsonii41814 жыл бұрын
I also have a Savage 93R in 17HMR. It has the RealTree camo all over the stock. That rifle is very accurate and i have been hitting Clay pigeons at 150 yards with it. I only have 2 magazines with this rifle. It's my Groundhog killing rifle , LOL !!!!
@kukusnest654 жыл бұрын
I concur on the MK ii - took mine out for the ist time shooting it today. Put a nikon pro staff on it and had it dialed in 4 shots. Was getting quarter size 5 shot groups with cheap federal ammo. knocked out by this thing. Thanks for the video X-RING I am actually interested in both of these guns as well as the savage precision. Good info
@AntiPattern3283 жыл бұрын
Usually, when changing ammo, you run a couple shots down the tube to "acclimate" the barrel. With the high end ammo, it grouped the last 3 on top of each other. I don't know for sure, just what I've heard about 22lr.
@hankarnold93553 жыл бұрын
To be fair instead of unfair you should taken this into consideration.
@avendesora2222 жыл бұрын
You can buy bipod with cant that mount to picatinny rails connected to the swivel stud. I’ve got one, a UTG Recon. Also, there’s many aftermarket cheek risers too. I’ve got a leather cheek rise/shell holder on my Tikka, works great. Those little factors should t be reasons not to choose the Cz. Should be which had the better accuracy and action.
@Mr.Spectaculous4 жыл бұрын
The poly stock 455 is under 400 and in Stainless. Federal ultra match is discontinued and made by RWS. If you shot the Tenex first the group would have looked like the CCI. You should do a comparison of the guns with ammo both guns prefer. I buy all my German ammo on line. Much of it delivered for free. Target Sports USA...to name one.
@johngalt47694 жыл бұрын
Might use the highest power on the scope if the burris goes to 25 power use that in both scopes. Groups will tighten up with a closer look. I find that my barrel takes 7 shots to season to the different ammo so I burn 8 rounds with a clean bore. My accuracy drops off right at 150 rounds and she wants a cleaning. Wonder what the trigger weights are between the two rifles. I find that any trigger over a LB. Will require your thumb to be centered on the back strap of grip witch is a good habit anyhow. Great videos. Way to enjoy this weather! HAPPY PLINKING!
@josephgittos37874 жыл бұрын
I own a CZ 452 American and shoot it at 100 meters here in U.K. ( no longer shooting due to corona virus ) and use Eley action with 2 inch target and have pretty good shooting , better then both these rifles , surprises me how different ammo can do to groupings , also Hornady do well
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting Joseph. It’s always kind of hit or miss with rimfire. Before the actual “test” video the CZ shot a 3/4 moa group with the Eley Tenex. My Anschutz will shoot extremely tight groups but only with a few types of ammunition. It is still a lot of fun playing around with what works and what doesn’t. I haven’t ever used or even remember seeing the Hornandy rimfire ammo. I will have to look for some to try. Thank you please stay safe and healthy.
@davidaguiar13872 жыл бұрын
Having owned both, I'd say that was a good comparison. I wish the RPR didn't have such a sloppy and crunchy bolt. It is really the Achilles heal of that rifle. If they had used a bolt/receiver design similar to the 77/22 series, I'd still own mine.
@22lr_plinking2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely one of the worst actions I have ever used Near 5,000 rounds in and still binds. I hate to do more polishing and filing her. Shouldn’t have to
@wrightfamily56254 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. If I am hunting the more expensive ammo would be better, but for back yard plinking for fun the cheap stuff would be good enough.
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
I agree completely. For most plinking around the house the CCI standard velocity is plenty good enough for me.
@charlesmckinley294 жыл бұрын
CCI Blazer shoots almost as well as the Standard Velocity. It is my go to ammo for Appleseed. It always goes bang and at 25m the accuracy difference is negligible.
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
I will have to try that out tomorrow. So far, I have tried almost ALL CCI ammunition, Eley Tenex, Club, Match, and Standard. Wolf 22, Gemtech and a lot of German Match ammo. So far, the Tenex is the one to beat. I just refuse to pay that much for .22 ammo. Thanks again for the recommendation.
@charlesmckinley294 жыл бұрын
The flyers in Blazer open the group up about 1 MOA larger than my groups with Std. Velocity. That is out of a 10/22 with the SS cold hammer forged barrel and the compact Ruger American Rimfire. If there is a way to post a picture I have them on the same target.
@MrBikeagraman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ray. Very informative. I am wondering if you'll be looking at the CZ 457 Varmint Precision Chassis in the near future. The MSRP is a lot higher than the RPR, though. I think it's $999.
@christophercharles87584 жыл бұрын
Eley ammunition is expensive because it’s imported from the U.K. conversely American ammo can be pricey this side of the pond due to import costs too. Hopefully if we agree to a trade deal before long that may make it far cheaper to buy each other’s products if the import taxes and duty are removed from the cost... P.S. when firing different types of .22lr ammo through the same rifle it’s advisable to put at least 10 rounds through the rifle first to allow it to adjust to the different coating on the ammo otherwise you tend to get a few flyers..
@JJ1570211 ай бұрын
I wish you would do the same comparison between the RPR and the Ruger American Rimfire Long Range Target.
@ronkay1573 Жыл бұрын
My Anschutz 1710 D KL sporter and my Clark custom 10-22 prefers Eley HP’s or RWS. The Anschutz shoots in the upper 0.2’s with Eley subsonic HP’s. Extreme consistent Ammo.
@skunkape28584 жыл бұрын
Good Video but i still want both rifles !
@markcahoon25344 жыл бұрын
Here in Aus, the CCI stuff runs between $9 and $11, I would hate to think how much the premium stuff costs.
@Robytsu4 жыл бұрын
And here in Argentina about $16 american dollars x50 CCI SV. And we just don't get premium stuff. Nobody imports it. Taxes.............
@markcahoon25344 жыл бұрын
@@Robytsu Yeah, its not the gunshops being greedy so much, but as usual, the government tax's is what is causing it, because you know, bullets and guns are bad for you. Just like their tax's on cigarettes and alcohol, well I suppose everything must be bad for us, cos they have plenty of tax's on everything.
@Baldcurious4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't .22 mag be abetted option ,especially reaching to a distance ?
@1970HondaCL1004 жыл бұрын
Yes it would. The RPR is amazing in .22WMR.
@toecutter69684 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, It would be nice to see how the Tikka T1x stacks up against these two rifles. Stay safe
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Trying to get one right now.
@MichaelLeopold1 Жыл бұрын
Just what I was looking for
@johngalt47694 жыл бұрын
I have heard the Ruger RPR likes CCI stinger due to longer chamber. I'm not fond of cci but might be worth a shot. Great content. HAPPY PLINKING!
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Thanks David. I think the owners manual actually states NOT to use Stingers. I still shot them, mine doesn’t like them.
@vexium26934 жыл бұрын
Mine doesnt like them either
@rancidpitts82434 жыл бұрын
I will have to try testing as was shown. I own both rifles CZ 452 Lux with 28 inch barrel and a New Ruger RPR with OEM barrel.
@garyomalley45217 ай бұрын
Lousy target camera. Love this channel. Thank you so much. Why not do standard 50yd ?
@jacuzzi73 жыл бұрын
Now we have a solution. Tactical stock and CZ. CZ 457 Varmint Precision. Pretty good one.
@badbilly4294 жыл бұрын
Pretty surprised at those results thought the cz all day great video like then new shooting deck
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Badbilly! It turned out really nice for old repurposed wood that I just had laying around.
@joshandhuntersadventures50464 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel I subscribed to your channel I like it I do some gun reviews also. Look forward to more videos
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh and thank you for watching the channel. I will check out your channel as well. I just subbed. 👍🏼
@J.R.F.234 жыл бұрын
Good video. Thank You for taking the time to make it and post it.
@SCQT4 жыл бұрын
good stuff, thanks for the info. Got rid of my tacsol x-ring(the rifle that started me on your channel, and my only .22lr) not long ago, as the accuracy just wasnt what i was hoping for. Now looking to replace it and have been trying to decide between the 457 and the T1x. You have any hands on with the Tikka yet? Cant find a whooole lot of reports on it, but i have had nothing but extremely good experiences with my .308 Tikkas. I hadnt really been considering the Ruger, as i was planning on eventually putting the Tikka or CZ into a mpa / mdt / krg at some point, and there dont appear to be many options out there for the Ruger. Seems like it is the best choice if you plan to leave as-is however, so basically what you already said... Think the 457 MTR is worth a premium for the "match" chamber? Really not familiar with the rimfire world. Is it realistic to expect a .5-.75moa rifle south of a Vudoo? Was planning on around the $1500 mark, minus optics.
@scottymoh44894 жыл бұрын
Funny i came across your comment when I just traded my tacsol x ring in for a RPR and couldn't be happier. My x ring wouldn't reliably feed anything below 1200fps even suppressed but shot 1.1 moa with cci standard velocity. The RPR after a few hundred rounds shot the same if not better as I never measured the groups. Both used the same vortex crossfire 2 4x12x50.
@SCQT4 жыл бұрын
@@scottymoh4489 exact same experience. Seemed to like mini mags for reliability, but was getting like 1.5moa with them. Standards were definitely closer to 1 but was just way too unreliable I decided that a .22 was only going to be interesting to me if it was an absolute laser. Luckily lots of good options now
@TTiger862684 жыл бұрын
Love my RPR, but like any gun, have to find the ammo it "Likes", I got lucky on mine, likes the mid range $ ammo, federal Hunter Match. 10 rounds are 1 jagged hole @50yds.
@georgesakellaropoulos81624 жыл бұрын
Got the same kind of lucky with my M77/22. It likes Federal product #510. Just a little over 1/2 MOA with ammo that's 5 cents a round.
@D703403 жыл бұрын
X2 for the Federal "Hunter Match". Sure wish i could find more of it, i`m starting to get low on how many boxes i have left. My CZ457 holds just under 1/2 inch groups @ 50yds, and 1.25 inch groups @ 100yds w/Hunter Match ammo. Good Stuff!!!
@joelclark21304 жыл бұрын
Awesome video thanks for your input and you owe me $400 so now I got to go buy one
@BOHEMIANHUNTINGCLUB4 жыл бұрын
Cool comparison👍👍
@jimreed66532 жыл бұрын
Good review. I see your buddy's RPR behind you. What has been done to that rifle? Is there a video on it?
@PlayingWithFireOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
I've got the 10/22 , the Classic Rimfire, and the RPR . It's a real toss up as to which I like more!
@dallas53743 жыл бұрын
Accuracy there is no comparison. Rpr destroys it.
@PlayingWithFireOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
@@dallas5374 its great for tack driving yes, but I get nervous, putting the RPR in my rifle sheath on my scooter when I go hunting grouse.
@MrCirqueMaudlin4 жыл бұрын
Put a different barrel on your RPR and it will out shoot alot of higher end 22...i put the ER shaw one and i am very happy
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Noah. What does the Shaw cost?
@cecilandrews74792 жыл бұрын
What I have would like to seen a some cheap off-the-wall Mossberg 22 or something to compete with them just to see they all shoot about the same
@ElfstersRiflesandReloading4 жыл бұрын
Dude! That video was awesome!! Love it and good info!
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Todd! I hope you have been well sir. I am liking this RPR more and more every day.
@bobbyusmc03724 жыл бұрын
I really like the videos man oorah
@ramblinwithwreck3 жыл бұрын
I also have an ammo can full of Ruger 10/22 mags that will fit. I have a 455 Ultra Lux with factory irons and it is probably the most accurate .22 I have.
@cammo70143 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I would like to see a comparison done with cleaning in between change of ammor. Great if you could do this.
@bradmetcalf78322 жыл бұрын
I would pick the Ruger myself since the groups are about the same but the Ruger's adjustability is far superior to the CZ. What I can't understand with Ruger is why a 18" barrel on this rifle and a 24" on the 6.5 Creedmoor, is 2 more inches gonna bust their profit margin? I would like to see the velocity gains and weight on the rifle.
@gamelord10002 жыл бұрын
You actually lose velocity with a barrel longer than 16-18" with the 22lr cartridge. The RPR is geared towards competition shooters and longer barrels make it harder to move in and out of props. Most will prefer a barrel shorter than 20" for rimfire.
@md32804 жыл бұрын
I got info from the folks at eley a while ago and they chrono or test they’re ammo in a 28” barrel. So any that I have shot out of shorter barrels were faster than printed speed.
@redtobertshateshandles2 жыл бұрын
The breeze effected these groups.
@dbelex4 жыл бұрын
CZ wins it for me. Just better quality and accuracy. Got a .22 RPR for sale.
@copisetic11044 жыл бұрын
And that is why I shoot 17hmr at anything over 50 meters. 22lr is just not accurate enough for clean kills past 50 meters.
@JohnDoe-gg6kc4 жыл бұрын
No issues landing a 22 out of the rpr rimfire on a 3in target all day at 200 yards, might be the shooter
@kevinfsu4 жыл бұрын
Any chance you might be getting or testing a Savage B22 precision? Have really narrowed my choices to it (have a number of Savage rifles, so partial to the brand) and the Ruger Precision Rimfire. Just not much out there yet on the new B22.
@GTMGunTotinMinnesotan4 жыл бұрын
In NRL the RPR's really didn't do well from what I saw. Lot's of problems, 455 just dominated on paper too when we compared at our gun club. Maybe worth revisiting the test again in the future, but who knows, you're obviously a skilled shooter so whatever. I just haven't personally seen RPR's do well. Great videos, subscribed.
@XRING4 жыл бұрын
Great info GTM. Thanks for the additional information.
@JZsBFF9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the action and stock part of the RPR isn't rigid enough; alu instead of ABS would have been better. Still fun gun and eye magnet though.
@craigcampbell26872 жыл бұрын
Nicely done
@Levon00832 жыл бұрын
I thought you’re supposed to acclimate the barrel a little bit?
@channelcatchaser94264 жыл бұрын
Wonder how the Tikka T1 would do?
@dannydivine76994 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the exact same video with the Tikka also