XS650 Mikuni VM34 Carb Swap & Setup

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2 Wheel Workshop

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In this video I replace the stock BS38 carbs with Mikuni VM34 carbs and compare 0-100km/h acceleration times.
Mikuni VM34 Carb jetting and settings:
*Pilot Jet = 25
*Main Jet = 210
*Emulsion Tube = Q-0
*Needle clip = second from top
*Idle air = 1 1/4 - 1 1/2 turns out

Пікірлер: 86
@Quocle603
@Quocle603 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I have an XS650 that I put back together with VM34 carbs. I did a lot of research online and found that a lot of people were running roughly this setup: Main Jet - 180 - 190 Pilot Jet - 25 - 30 Needle - clip position - 6F9, position 3 (middle) Needle Jet (emulsion tube) - P-6 (richer) P-5 (leaner) Cut Away slide - 2.5 Air Jet - None Float height - 25​ Air mixture - 1-1/2 turns out. Hopes this helps someone as well. Its not perfect, but its a great baseline to adjust to.
@CwPlatapuZ
@CwPlatapuZ 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to say I've been watching all of your videos as I just rebuilt my 73 tx650 and they have all been super useful!!! These videos you are posting are GOLD. Thank you so much!
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Glad they are helping mate. Thanks for the feedback.
@stevehennessey7541
@stevehennessey7541 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I just put VM34s on my XS650 this morning. For me it was a big improvement but I still need to further tune my carb’s a little bit, but much more responsive than the BS-38s. As always, amazing video and thx for the info!
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I am sure I will tweak the tuning over time but where I have it now is a good starting point. We are in lockdown here atm and there is only so many "trips to the shop" I can get away with on the bike.
@iamezytyga
@iamezytyga 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Good content, no waffle. I'm about to rebuild a stock '75 xs650 that needs a lot of love. I have a set of vm34s from another build that I will now use thanks to your video. All the best for your channel. Cheers, mate.
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. Good luck with your build.
@arthurleino
@arthurleino 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Mikuni VM 38 on my 83 FXWG. Was lucky my throttle I had for the 38 Deloroto pumper was the same! Had a Mikuni on my 80 Sportster and liked it. Thanks for the post.
@sandmanGT350
@sandmanGT350 2 жыл бұрын
Great carb info. I cheaped out and replace my originals with Oko's. It ran great for about a day. Went back to originals. I may try again with the keihin knockoffs next summer. Your video may have changed my mind. Thanks
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty happy with the results. Easy starting, stable idle, better throttle response and more power. Worth every cent.
@benjaminbeebe9182
@benjaminbeebe9182 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work, been struggling with my stock carbs, now I’m thinking about swapping to these!
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I would definitely recommend it. I'm sure you can get the stock carbs to work well but they are all getting pretty old and worn and the VMs were great out of the box
@GpunktHartman
@GpunktHartman Жыл бұрын
The stockcarbs are made for reliable cruising. If you need more accelleration, there is a way for them with "dynojet" ore you do it by just a ~3,2 drill (to open the vacuumhole next to the needlehole in the slide)... bigger mainjet and rise the needle. ☝️🧐You will start to love the originals.😉
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop Жыл бұрын
I might give that a shot. If nothing else it will make an interesting comparison video.👍
@jaiclark148
@jaiclark148 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work mate!
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Will do.
@ArizonaRE
@ArizonaRE 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! Enjoying your content B-)
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. I really appreciate the feedback.
@Tater-
@Tater- 2 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video mate
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother
@eflanagan1921
@eflanagan1921 4 ай бұрын
Great video and bike ,hope you made swing out of that back tire!
@stevesutton6093
@stevesutton6093 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Brodie, nice work and as the owner of a couple of these magnificent machines I really enjoy your content. Try raising the fuel height in the float bowls by adjusting the floats by a poofteenth as that might cure the flat spot.
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I'll give it a try. Thanks mate.
@northvanwan7428
@northvanwan7428 2 жыл бұрын
lol, SAE, then Metric, now i gotta learn a new measure ?!
@BrentonIsRad
@BrentonIsRad 2 жыл бұрын
Legend!
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@jahnbell8906
@jahnbell8906 7 ай бұрын
Nice video makes me more interested in XS650 ..i tried to find Xs650 that for sale but no avail,i guess i like more the standard than the special..
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 6 ай бұрын
Thanks mate. I'm not a fan of the look of the special either.
@guypigache2105
@guypigache2105 2 жыл бұрын
I have a set of VM's to fit. This is a helpful video. TBH I dont think you need to do so much speeding up, normal speed would be useful and although the tuning process is slow and boring hearing your analysis after changing each set of settings (idle, main jet, mid range) would have been very interesting.
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I probably could have gone into a bit more detail but I'm juggling a few things atm and I was a bit time poor. If you have any specific questions you can email me. Just put a message on here to let me know because I don't check emails as often as I should.
@piraltas
@piraltas 8 ай бұрын
Hi there! How many turns out were you at with the idle screw? Please and thank you
@ericnelson966
@ericnelson966 2 жыл бұрын
I have wanted an xs650 and am considering getting one so I am doing a good bit of research on them. I have never had a vertical twin . However I keep noticing the vibration doesn't "look" as bad as some people say. Did you have your crank rephased?? I am a harley person and don't mind a little vibration at all from my sportster at all. In fact I like it but I am curious about the level of vibes on the yamaha. I am 57 years old and when I was young motorcycles still had lots of character which is why I am interested in the yamaha.
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
The engine is completely stock and it does shake a bit. It doesn't bother me on shorter trips (1-2hrs) but if I were to ride for hours on end I would need to take regular breaks to let the blood return to my fingers. The handlebars (and nearly everything else) have rubber dampers for a reason and I would not like to ride an xs650 with clip ons.
@1971midget
@1971midget Жыл бұрын
Very good video and useful, could you please tell me where I can get the carburetors kit like this? Thanks in advance
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. I got mine from here mikunioz.com/shop/yamaha-xs650-dual-mikuni-vm34-complete-carb-conversion-kit/?v=13b249c5dfa9
@jamilyeo4476
@jamilyeo4476 2 жыл бұрын
What happens to the centre breather hose when moving from the oem air box to pods ?
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to make a catch can. Still coming up with a design/location
@user-rj8oz5cc1o
@user-rj8oz5cc1o 8 ай бұрын
Did you do a Dyno run with fuel air ratio check at WOT When I run a 180 jets I’m rich 210 would be extreme
@1981dasimpson
@1981dasimpson 2 жыл бұрын
i have an en500 cruiser with er5 engine cv carbs giving me real problems thinking of going dual vm34 idle will not stay stable no matter how much i balance tune valves etc
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't really comment on how well that would go but it was a big improvement for the XS
@brithsb7114
@brithsb7114 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there, could you tell me the size of the needle please. You said you put the clip on the second slot but not sure what needle it is. Thanks!
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate. I can't remember off the top of my head. I will get them apart later today and get back to you.
@user-rj8oz5cc1o
@user-rj8oz5cc1o 8 ай бұрын
Hi Brody Interesting you can use a 210 mJ What are the other components Needle jet ? Needle ? PJ ? Slide ? Did you check your colour of plugs with 210 MJ you better carry a spare set of plugs.
@ralphkoch6652
@ralphkoch6652 2 жыл бұрын
Put one of these kits on my ‘81 special about 2 months ago. Found adjusting the air mix screw made no difference where I put it Did start to produce smoke out of left cylinder, so have stripped motor and am now rebuilding it , so haven’t had a chance to really try the carbs , only did about 10 is on them it. PS where abouts are you located?
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
The idle air screw problem could have something to do with your idle speed screw. If your throttle is to far open at idle then you will be feeding fuel from the needle jet instead of the pilot which would negate the idle circuit. Just a guess without having a look at it. I'm in Broadford, Victoria. About an hour north of Melbourne.
@ralphkoch6652
@ralphkoch6652 2 жыл бұрын
@@2wheelworkshop Thanks, Know Broadford, built some dog kennels there a few years ago. I’m down in Cottlesbridge(Hurstbridge way) I sent my head and barrels up to Geoff for an exchange, got the head back but barrels have been sitting with Australia post at Sommerton for over 2 weeks
@lalnablehector1285
@lalnablehector1285 6 ай бұрын
@@2wheelworkshop I happen to be from Broadford too funnily enough, Wanna come fix the carbs on mine for me? 😆
@RGV2504
@RGV2504 Жыл бұрын
Hi. I’m just about to fit a friend’s 34’s to my xs650. What idle jet size did you start and or finish with. I’m thinking of starting with 15 and going from there. Thanks.
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop Жыл бұрын
I stuck with the #25 idle jets that the kit came with.
@boycottjews
@boycottjews Жыл бұрын
I have these exact carbs I want to swap on to my Vulcan 500(kawi en500) not sure if y'all got that cruiser. Trying to learn about it so I can finally put them on.
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop Жыл бұрын
We have the EN500 in Australia but I have never ridden or worked on one. Should be the same procedure to tune but I have no idea on what jet sizes to start with
@boycottjews
@boycottjews Жыл бұрын
@@2wheelworkshop they're really fun. Definitely my favorite bike I've personally owned. But yeah the starting point is really tricky, espasically since I don't have much of a clue about this sort of stuff. Found someone selling a kit for the 454ltd, same engine just not bored over. If they email me back that might be a decent starting point.
@STARCROSSEDMOTO
@STARCROSSEDMOTO Жыл бұрын
Which tubes/hoses are for the fuel?
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop Жыл бұрын
Ask your local automotive shop for fuel hose or you can get it on ebay. It is sold by length and comes in a variety of diameters.
@patrickroberts7847
@patrickroberts7847 2 жыл бұрын
if you could tell me the throttl ecables and throttle ass. you used that woul dbe great!!!1 i cant seem to find the right ones
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Im using the stock throttle and the cable came with the kit. The link below is to a throttle and cable kit from the same place that I bought the kit from. mikunioz.com/shop/2-universal-throttle-with-2-into-1-cable-mikuni-vm-tm/?v=13b249c5dfa9
@patrickroberts7847
@patrickroberts7847 2 жыл бұрын
@@2wheelworkshop what throttle sleeve and assembly are you using? The stock Xs650 one? Or did you get a separate one and use it with the cable that came with the kit?
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Stock xs650
@patrickroberts7847
@patrickroberts7847 2 жыл бұрын
@@2wheelworkshop did you have to modify the cable at all that came with the kit?
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
No mate. The kit is straight bolt on
@robbenalfans5501
@robbenalfans5501 2 жыл бұрын
I adjusted the carbs, but if I want to turn the bike with chocke, dont function I need to oppen the screw, after the Idle will go 4000 rpm,, next I turn down the screw,bike run normaly, what can cause this problem
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Not 100% sure what you are saying. Are you turning the idle speed screw or the idle/air mix screw?
@robbenalfans5501
@robbenalfans5501 2 жыл бұрын
@@2wheelworkshop I mean the Idee speed screw, if I want tu turn my bike, dont function I need to turn the Idee speed screw, next the bike will turn on, in 4000 rpm, next I turn down the Idle speed screw to 1100 rpm , sory my englisch is not the best 😁 In the morning is the same thing
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
It could be air leaks between the carbs and the head, idle circuit mixture, ignition problems or a combination of all plus more. Kinda hard to say without having a look in person. I would check your timing, make sure you have a good strong spark then start looking at the carbs.
@KT-fi7tm
@KT-fi7tm Жыл бұрын
So you left the carbs the way you got it and it worked fine?
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop Жыл бұрын
It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure I went with the emulsion tube that came with the carbs. I give a run down of exactly what's in them at 6:35 in the video.
@eljaibas16
@eljaibas16 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I have a vm34 but it leaks, it's not the float level, maybe the needle seat it's worn out, does someone know how to fix it?
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop Жыл бұрын
I have never seen a needle and seat wear out. I would say everything needs a really thorough clean.
@eljaibas16
@eljaibas16 Жыл бұрын
@@2wheelworkshop I've seen a few videos and they fix it either by using metal polishing compound with a q tip, or by putting a 2mm ball bearing inside the seat and punching it with a small hammer. I'll try with the metal polishing compound and I'll share the results.
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop Жыл бұрын
I look forward to hearing your results. Good luck.
@willcollins4243
@willcollins4243 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question how do you setup two single carbs to work for the one bike I am confused how to bridge them together to work simultaneously
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
This kit has a 1 into 2 cable and to balance them you just use the adjusters on the top of each carb. The stock carbs are linked at the shaft. I have a video on balancing carbs that shows the stock setup.
@willcollins4243
@willcollins4243 2 жыл бұрын
@@2wheelworkshop so the cable doesn’t confuse how do you get the fuel to get to both carbs?
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
There are 2 fuel taps lines. One for each carb.
@willcollins4243
@willcollins4243 2 жыл бұрын
@@2wheelworkshop so you’re running a split to the petcock right like a y tube
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
No. The stock tank has a tap on either side. One for each carb.
@mulletjocks
@mulletjocks 2 жыл бұрын
My 74/75 idles a heap lower. Not that its an ideal setting for good power pull
@mulletjocks
@mulletjocks 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry. High comp rebuild, boyer ignition. Fast bike but.....
@mulletjocks
@mulletjocks 2 жыл бұрын
I have 2 of 2010 spec VM34 from "SUDCO?" in a drawer, should i use them?
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't hurt to give them a try
@morteneide3857
@morteneide3857 Жыл бұрын
Extent,...
@dmuise
@dmuise 2 жыл бұрын
Those air filters are garbage, mate. The UNI pods will give you far better throttle response (especially when you give it a fist full).
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I'll give the a try when I get the other bike built. They aren't on there any more. I just wanted them tuned for when I run the new engine in and thought I would make a video out of it.
@garylynch5263
@garylynch5263 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate what is wrong with 38s why change to 34s please
@2wheelworkshop
@2wheelworkshop Жыл бұрын
The old 38 CVs off the engine I was tuning these for are very tired and I wasn't willing to put the time, effort and unknown amount of money into them to get them to a usable condition.
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