Y’all are desperate to humble Chloe Bailey...| Khadija Mbowe

[@KhadijaMbowe]

Remember, the eyes are the nipples of the face

[@mery8680]

HAHAHA LOL GIRL

[@gabby.maya11]

This is a bold and controversial claim

[@ObeyLucifer]

🤨

[@redpilldon6397]

You are not a slut for wearing that sbirt

[@doodlebob5984]

Lol you right Bimini Bon Boulash Price 😆

[@emerycorner]

Humility is great, until it's at the point where you want that person to have low self esteem and be highly insecure, just so YOU can be the one to "lift them up".

[@absolutelynotellen]

OMG TRUTH

[@giovannaa6105]

also what makes anyone think they have the right or 'duty' to humble anyone, especially people they don't know? doesn't sound that 'humble' to me thinking you know better or are entitled to tell anyone how to live their life

[@mewmew6158]

@@---nobody--- some people act that way, a lot of people are entitled asf and have a serious holier than thou attitude

[@davichigbue1835]

@@---nobody--- It seems like you are the OG commenter are on the same level?? I don't quite understand your argument. You guys are saying the same thing lol

[@graceblossoms130]

@@---nobody--- I don’t think you understand what she is saying. you both agree

[@Shanspeare]

14:15 yes!! Say it louder for all the comments I get about my chest that go along the lines of “if you didn’t want people commenting about it, you should cover up” IM JUST WEARING A SHIRT I LIKE BRAD !!!!

[@lingeringquestions519]

I feel like if some guys (and oddly enough I've seen some women do this over guys) are turned on by a girl or woman they blame what she is wearing because they take not being able to handle being turned on.

[@karupin9893]

A random girl in high school once told me that I was looking for attention because I liked to wear tshirts that had puns on them that were on the chest. I remember looking at her like she was crazy like, can I wear what I want in peace?

[@policeaccountabilityreport]

First your videos are wonderful! Second I feel what you are going through. I am a reporter and relatively new to your channel and Auntie K's channel too and I am so very pleased to learn from you both! I just wanted to add my personal experience with comments on my femme form. After I post my show on YT the best I can hope for is that my audience makes no comment on my appearance. I gained a few lbs during the past year and my shirts started fitting *ahem differently-- and the comments came. It is a very fine line for those of us who wish to appear femme, attractive and professional- and the expectations of the public can almost make it impossible to meet their standards- if you are percieved as if you are trying to show off your form, the validity of what you have to say drops precipitously. I can only imagine how difficult it is for young femme artists and musicians and video essayists. For some reason certain people cannot listen and/or think if they can see a bit of decollatage- and they seem to also assume that ones' IQ has dropped if you have two or three buttons open on your shirt. I honestly don't quite know how to move forward? Anyway best of luck to both of you amazing talents!

[@policeaccountabilityreport]

Perhaps on your platform you can say the things I wish I could!

[@venuslove-i1v]

@@karupin9893 I had someone say the same to me because I had words on my backside.

[@cowbiddy2004]

People now hate self-deprecating humor, they say it ruins the mood to put yourself down. BUT THEY ALSO HATE WHEN YOU LOVE YOURSELF. People will never be satisfied they must dictate your very being. You must be seen but not heard, you must smile but not be too happy. Its better to just ignore what others say society will never be satisfied with you so satisfy yourself.

[@JulianSteve]

Great analysis. Thank you👏🏾‼️

[@liste302]

wait who hates self-deprecating humor?

[@aby2395]

@@herenow4550 but humility to an extent is bringing yourself down verbally to not outshine those around you. And that is self-depreciating. Me not admitting that I’m the best player on my team for example and saying no, I’m just ok, is self-depreciating just for others approval. There isn’t really a middle ground so just do what you want

[@dudette7681]

Cow biddy, god bless that mind.

[@sylmarie]

@@herenow4550 loving yourself doesn’t equal arrogance though

[@FantasyBookAddict]

In my opinion I think another issue is who is profiting from these women being sexy. Sexualizing women is a staple in the entertainment industry, and it was all fine and dandy when men did it. But now we live in an age where more women are profiting off their desirability, and now it’s a problem.

[@KhadijaMbowe]

and that's an interesting conversation to have

[@pattygould8240]

Well you sure hit that nail on the head.

[@Rhaifha]

Agreed, I think in a way it's that there's been a wave of "Sexualization is exploitation" because that was often the case. But now, even when that's not the case, the negative connotation with sexualized womens bodies is still there. But idk, I feel like I don't have the best words to explain my thoughts here.

[@pantomimegoose]

Fantastic point. Sexualization and capitalism, who benefits from commodifying a body? Why is it only a problem when it’s the person in the body?

[@MissAlmostFine]

There's a reason why someone like a Meg Thee Stallion gets so much heat for her presentation. Even Beyonce' when she started being much more overtly sexual in her music and videos, got so many thinkpieces about how she was disappointing and no longer a role model to young girls. I think there's a conversation to be had around what the entertainment industry prioritizes for the marketing and selling of Black female artists music and imaging and how there seems to be a lack of "balance" from a mainstream perspective but we cannot remove these women's autonomy and agency from the equation.

[@cadyg2531]

The whole humbling black women is weird. And the fact that it comes from black men and women the most is again, weird. I can’t imagine finding yourself in front of the whole world and people picking you apart, grown people, picking you apart at that.

[@Social_Pugatory]

Seems like a holdover from when being seen or noticed while black in a white society where you’re expected to not be seen and not heard. Also the black church got my people in a chokehold.

[@cadyg2531]

@@Social_Pugatory the church definitely does have a hold on the black community. Not the loving fellowship, but the “holier than thou” mentality. Mix that with the black male worship and misogyny deep rooted in both the men and women and you have this mess. People have never liked black women owning their bodies. From Sarah Baartman to the modern black woman.

[@unluckyobserver6532]

why add men first when the shaming is mainly coming from Women 🤔

[@-Desire]

@@unluckyobserver6532 I think it's because most of the shaming comes for women trying to look good "for the boys" so they're taking over the shaming

[@luluallure]

@@herenow4550 but how would you know? You're NOT black the fact you're comfortable enough to make this statement shows the lack of knowledge/sympathy also you just pulled the WOC card which IS OFTEN used to shut black women up

[@ForeignManinaForeignLand]

Show too much skin? They call yuh a bad gyal. Show too little? They call yuh frgid or boring. Its like Black women can't win 😮‍💨

[@najwillaims]

Exactly caa please nobody

[@cadyg2531]

This is why a lot of us don’t care and do what we want. You’ll live an unhappy life trying to please everyone. The majority of the foolishness is online. No one has the guts to came up to me in real life and tell me what they want from me, and if they dare tried they will be met with an eloquent, calm read 👸🏾🙃

[@grandsome1]

*BIPOC body exists* Society: "Wait that's illegal!" (also thanks again for exposing Haitian history to the masses in your latest video)

[@ForeignManinaForeignLand]

@@grandsome1 handsome grandsome! Of course family. I love my Zoes dem 🙏🏾

[@madamepaka]

Exactly! A few ppl were dragging H.E.R. the other day for not being "visually interesting" enough to deserve some Grammy nominations. Like, huh? H.E.R. has always been about musicianship! THAT's her style, her truth - that's her artistry. Ik she's only half-black (mixed), but twitter was really giving her the typical bw scrutiny. I was so done.

[@melmelhodgepodge3800]

I hope that Chloe is okay, and I hope she doesn't end up hating herself and her body over this.

[@ms.wilson6439]

She actually been saying that she's insecure.

[@jordinometry1589]

Same all the hate she gets is just disgusting. Like people need to stop and think about what this does to her mental health. Like they did the same thing with Britney Spears at 16 and it’s just weird

[@971Cici]

I think she'll be okay, she has the best support system in the whole industry :tge Knowles

[@AGEE_95]

@@ms.wilson6439 Being insecure doesn't equate to hating yourself or your body. Everyone is insecure about something. Everyone doesn't hate themselves. So the point of this response is moot.

[@thaissa215]

Clicked on it at the speed of light because I'm a Chloe stan and JESUS CHRIST LET THAT WOMAN LIVE HER LIFE Y'ALL

[@CassieJazz96]

Sameeee

[@elomara]

Same

[@absolutelynotellen]

The ammount of hate she gets for existing makes me want to go feral lmao

[@485OCEAN]

STANNNNN HEREEEE

[@elisedelaserre9453]

„you know you that bitch when you cause all this conversation“ 💃🏽

[@ninab1928]

I think that Chole being vulnerable openly also contributes massively to the backlash against her. Like people are offended that she's affected by the hate. It goes against the expectation of the 'strong black woman'. By being radically vulnerable she's reminding people of her humanity which for some is too much to handle. Like they can't fathom connecting sexuallity and vulnerability, to be sexual you have to be detached and to be vulnerable you have to be "pure". It's so messed up.

[@sohnaminta.9264]

That's interesting

[@boundbyvillainy]

You're right cause now they actually getting excited that she cries when she's being attacked. These internet demons need to be extinct fr🤢

[@BlackGirlInfoTech]

Wow. This could make for a great thesis paper or essay. Beautifully worded.

[@GetKaseFit]

I really like this perspective!

[@Kyrridwen420]

That's an incredible point

[@Mysmarionette]

"Anyone existing in that type of body and frame is immediately sexualized." This made me feel so seen and validated. I was once reprimanded at work because I had a cross body purse and you could suddenly see I had boobs. I simply want to exist. I feel the way people treat me, based on my form, has caused me to lean towards presenting as androgynous. It feels safer because unfortunately some people are just animals.

[@Rosa5311]

Yes I completely agree, I have a very similar body type to Chloe and it's taken me a while to get semi comfortable with wearing clothes that may flaunt it, like for example I would always wear oversized jackets to cover my butt so that men wouldn't stare and I would never wear anything that remotely shows my cleavage and I usually also feel safer when I wear clothes that cover everything, which is annoying

[@TNDCBaby]

@@herenow4550 That's interesting because, at least in the celeb world, it comes off differently. A good example was the Britney vs Christina thing. They clearly labeled Britney as more sexualized when it came to what she wore than they did the smaller framed Christina. Smaller women tend to have to go out of their way to "show off" before they get the same label. Interesting to hear that people still stared at your boobs and made comments about how you looked even when rocking the androgynous look.

[@automatic5]

@@TNDCBaby thats bc women are sexualized, period, regardless of their body shape or type. even women that present masc will still openly get degraded and sexualized and fetishized.

[@Mysmarionette]

@@TNDCBaby that's because it doesn't matter what you wear. People will still find the need to make you feel shame for your body or sexualize it. It's something that affects all women.

[@TNDCBaby]

@@herenow4550 I'm remembering correctly. You're talking about after Dirty and her attempt to be more grown up. I'm talking about article and publicity critiquing outfits and the like. Interesting. You rarely hear that side of things. Most of the time smaller framed folks tend to get away with showing a little more. Sorry that you've gone through the same crap.

[@elisedelaserre9453]

Some people think that Chlöe just existing is a brag. Which is lowkey a compliment lol Anyway she‘s a queen and haters are bitter😌

[@grachi0matilda]

Yeah bc Kendall and Bella wear a lot more sexual clothes with "a lot less to keep to the imagination" and get a lot less hate and heat from the public than Chlöe in her "day to day" clothes and it seems like they don't get this "we need to humble them" (I mean, you can kinda see this with the "Bella owes her success to her doctor" but is not the same)

[@violetrosequast340]

Chloë is very talented and she is a grown ass woman. She can show skin if she wants too because she is an adult and it’s her body not yours!

[@user-mb9nm7bq5e]

true, but i think people are just annoyed that she using the 'this is for feminism' argument. i wish she would just say, im doing this cause i think im hot...and not the BS excuses she has said in the past

[@xxchaotic1849]

@@user-mb9nm7bq5e but what if she is doing it for feminism, that’s a valid response, like why even be upset, why does there have to be a reason why she shows off her skin

[@pattygould8240]

@@user-mb9nm7bq5e so she's free to do whatever she likes as long as you believe she means what she says?

[@whoknows9085]

@@pattygould8240 Yeah that’s kinda how free will works

[@pattygould8240]

@@whoknows9085 my free will does not require you to believe me.

[@happyblacklegends]

People HATE confident black women. 💅🏿✨ They wanna destroy that confidence so bad.

[@cashmereglow7549]

Sadly most of the comments are from black women. I was shocked to see it's not from other groups of women. But our own. Seeing how my mom sabotaged my beauty and femininity as a teenager, trying to "humble" me. Let's me know that sisterhood is only surface level. She didn't want men to be attracted to me so convinced me that "personality matters more". When I already had a nice one 🤣🤣

[@unluckyobserver6532]

if that were the case wouldn’t they say the same for Beyoncé, Nicki, or Meg, there’s a difference the women are bashing Her because they think she tries to hard, if your opinion was valid the same type of women would bash Beyoncé, Meg, and Nicki

[@SayshiSL]

@@unluckyobserver6532 the women you mention actually deal with the same hate and negative comments especially Meg since she is the newest to the social media but you have factor in Meg was an adult already and start off with the sexy edge to her while Chloe had been expose to popularity as minor and have her growth as woman under social media eye. Beyoncé dealt with it but she started out via the beginning of internet so her hate was mostly website blogs and the press but it’s been mention in interviews before how hard it was on her being so young I do believe it was her late teens or early twenties at the time. As for nicki Minaj, she always got hate they have criticize the hell out of her, she often blame for this being the pioneer of the way for other new artists have come thru the gate being sexy or others would consider overly sexual. With nicki she is adult and she pretty always consistent in her imagery plus with hip hop being pretty big on being confident and bragging tones of the bars it’s normalized so it’s easy to see she is embrace because her fandom but she definitely get hate. It be mostly our own fellow black women that push it too because the internalize misogynoir is pretty prominent.

[@tadmira127dreamuvtadmir2]

So Black women hates Black women😹

[@jenm1]

People just hate women, esp women of colour

[@prettygirl6994]

I think one of the reasons people are uncomfortable is her body type. I remember in school all of the skinny girls could pretty much get away wearing anything and not get called sluts or attention seeking. That was one of the reasons why I hated showing skin. People clearly over sexualize black girls with this specific body type and it also contributes to the adultification of black girls.

[@rhxxnxnclxrk1505]

as a skinny person, this is very true. my sister and i can have the same outfit on: tank top, flannel, shorts, but no bra; and she'll get stares and nasty looks and either nobody pays me any attention or i occasionally get compliments :// also skinny people are often praised for their 'fashion' when often times its smth lazy like an oversized sweater and shorts, and if that same outfit was on a larger person they were called 'homeless, bummy' etc. its really sad, skinny privilege is real unfortunately :/

[@DoraWinifred]

Yup reminds me of the “model off duty” look all they are wearing is a T-shirt and jeans like everyone else it’s nothing specially only they have a slim body

[@LisaOnyimonyi]

The movie "Moxie" highlighted this.

[@kiwihair5939]

@@rhxxnxnclxrk1505 our body type is just associated with the modeling industry it’s so weird.

[@nawal10]

Very true I went through it myself and as a grown woman still do. It's never the clothes just the body type and how it makes others feel.

[@positivevibesveda]

The final thoughts reminds me of all those posts like “what would you do if your son’s teacher looked like this” and it was just a black woman with a curvy body or the leaked school dress codes people posted. People don’t choose the bodies they’re born into, and the teacher in the pic was literally just wearing jeans and a shirt. Idk, it’s so messed up.

[@KhadijaMbowe]

thank you. People are acting like she got all this surgery to get this body and that's why she's showing it off now...

[@elenagardner4948]

Where are you talk too much

[@ActuallyAnanya]

It's the classic cognitive dissonance of being attracted to someone but feeling a sense of shame in that attraction due to what society has taught you, and instead of addressing that sense of shame and questioning it, instead turning into anger and directing it at the object of attraction. I feel it's almost the same mechanism that internalised homophobia operates on.

[@ShiningLight411]

Wow! I never thought about it this way.

[@garancebarbier7381]

Basically Claude Frollo syndrome... which is why I (among many others) consider him the most realistic disney villain. This is the vilain that will get kids to go "meh I do not get him" and get most adults to shiver. There are SO many Frollos out there...

[@elysia6543]

honestly, I'm just tired of men singing and rapping about women's bodies and sexuality and then when women participate in their sexuality it's a scandal and its lewd and inappropriate

[@worlaliawakame762]

Saaayyyy it aaagggaaaiiinnn The rappers have scantily dressed women alllll over their videos

[@princessjellyfish98]

What's crazy to me is that both girls talk aaaalll about their sexuality on Ungodly Hour. They're having affairs, they're breaking up and getting back together with different men, they're literally *k_lling* men. Part of what makes their music so relatable is because their lyrics are so raw and personal even when they're fantastical. And they also share a lot of their personalities on social media; they're both kind of nerds but they can also get it, y'know? That's what attracts me to their music, because I see myself in their personalities and what they're singing about. But of course, because the Ungodly Hour promotion wasn't as overtly, visually sexual as Chloe's Have Mercy promotion, people didn't pay attention or raise any alarm bells. Like many other commenters, I also remember when people started pressuring Chloe to go solo from her sister because she was more "mature," and they'd say it's because of her voice but what they were *really* talking about was her body. And now that she's doing exactly that, but on her own terms, people are suddenly singing a different tune. They wanted to control Chloe's body and sexuality. Now that *she's* controlling it, they have issues. And meanwhile, Halle is exploring her own sexuality in the public sphere while watching her sister get attacked, along with the backhandedness of everyone framing her own body in contrast with her sister, which is gross and dehumanizing in its own way. I just hope these girls can stay protected, by their family and friends and by their fellow female musicians. I mean, Beyonce chose them for a reason! Rewatching that live where Chloe's crying broke my heart all over again. Regardless of their thoughts and desires, people need to get over their entitlement to SPEAK those thoughts out loud in a public space. Social media creates this illusion of invitation, the idea that Chloe actually wants to hear what you have to say about her body, no matter how crass or rude or humiliating, and that's simply not true. Maybe just shut up and stream Ungodly Hour instead I dunno...

[@ruthfolorunso8715]

What you said about people needing to keep their thoughts to themselves is so true! Like, you're free to be as judgemental as you want but not every opinion needs to be aired aloud especially when it's about the decisions someone makes about their own body.

[@Soemrjruur]

How are they taking men’s lives? Those men commit suicide which the media casts after conducting more narrative production work as resultant of their ‘victimization’ of men?’ Or would you say it was a murder with no murder victim? She didn’t feel like saying to the media that ‘well maybe he killed himself because they weren’t fucking or talking, or doing complex things involving mutual care anymore.’ But it doesn’t matter anymore does it. I’m confused because that part doesn’t actually make any sense when you say ‘I hope those girls can stay protected”. Actually, it is a bit of a paradox: the idea that women are forced to ‘victimize’ to not become the victims of larger societal vectors of violence, and precarity. Or maybe I’m making an artificial insight, because you never say there’s some compelling factor influencing the relational comportment of ‘girls’. How they ‘decide’ to ‘act’. I have a really, really hard time believing that these women aren’t making these decisions which go against normality because they are just compelled by ‘the way they are’ or their acquired habits. Wouldn’t you say that whatever caused the men to commit suicide, also made life such that it was seemingly a mercy or an escape - as the committing of suicide is - for the women to leave them? Both for the woman, and the man? The pressures of neoliberalism such that without privilege you don’t really have the option to stay with someone through hard times: if you both cannot find work, and cannot eat etc, you will obviously be at a high risk to your health and life. People are forced to move so much in the modern day, mainly within borders, since borders are violent. How can you expect women under so much pressure in a relationship to not have affairs, just as it would be ridiculous to not expect men under pressure to make decisions such as affairs , or engagement with violence (something which is very traditionally a ‘masculine evil’, vs the ‘feminine evils’ of privacy and self control. Societal, financial, personal pressures? Some semi-traumatic event, as many relationships which end abruptly end. girls and men. It’s a difficult dichotomy to work within. People fuck each other and they also make promises to fuck each other and perform the production of emotions with each other for a long time. Promises are promises, just words. A metaphorical gun to your head, yes even a metaphor, means more than words.

[@Soemrjruur]

I’m sorry for my comment, it’s not well written like I wanted it to be. Just on the ‘killing men’ part, I feel you don’t believe this, but that gets rebroadcast as something like ‘hateful women are purposefully causing the suicide of men’. I feel like that just reverts to the very beginning, turning women’s sexuality into a weapon against them, or people’s in general, as if there is ANYTHING MORALLY WRONG WITH NOT WANTING TO FUCK SOMEONE ANYMORE anything, except, societally wrong, with not following a certain ritual and process of societal detainment when you don’t want to fuck or spend time with that person anymore? what is it that is morally wrong about not verbally sending someone you may not want to speak to a goodbye love letter? If you did that, you clearly still loved them. There’s nothing moral about that.

[@princessjellyfish98]

@@Soemrjruur I was just talking about the lyrics of their songs fam 😂 on the song "Tipsy" they tell a made up story about murdering their boyfriends. I was just saying how there was no outrage to the overtly sexual lyrics on Ungodly Hour because they didn't have visuals to match

[@Soemrjruur]

@@princessjellyfish98 I knew I was too high

[@mkdugan8109]

I remember when they were talking about how everyone always assumes Halle is shy and that Chloe is the bolder, more confident sister and how it was actually the opposite for them. Why do we assume that Chloe is more aggressive/ less meek because she’s not as small as Halle. So weird this policing of bodies

[@DoraWinifred]

1000% this policing is part of the problem with the ideology of femininity, being “feminine” one assumes a feminine woman should be small, take up less space and therefore be meek. When you have a woman that’s bigger It confuses the image because one aspect she “should” be small so then a lot of bigger ladies over compensate with their personality and act meek or become more “personable”. It makes me annoyed because This is probably why people are so fat phobic to Lizzo, they look at her think because she is bigger she should be performing this meekness more that other women but as she is rightfully unapologetically herself therefore people are mad as she’s showing herself and “taking more space”. We need to stop policing people bodies especially women and more so black women. We are just people living our lives and navigating the world we don’t exist for others (dis)pleasure.

[@mkdugan8109]

@@DoraWinifred You said it all.

[@celinek9686]

@@DoraWinifred you speak truth and only truth!!!

[@MONET8iAM]

In this case I would say that it’s an easy assumption from watching a few interviews, that’s definitely how they come off. Halle speaks in a very soft tone, and Chloe at times has asserted herself a little more when responding to uncomfortable questions whereas Halle just won’t answer. It’s when you watch their lives together when you see their full raw personalities.

[@zwoodarts]

yes it's like when ppl were trying to say halle was more modest when they've literally always worn similarly revealing clothes

[@ChizobaItabor]

And In terms of the humbling point, I think because Black women are looked down on (especially Black women who are dark skin and/or trans, fat, disabled, working-class) and there are people who base their self worth on our demise. When they see a Black woman who loves themself they feel threatened as their foundation for their self worth is crumbling. The moral of the story is to learn to respect and love yourself in a way where you're not constantly comparing yourself to other people. And UNLEARN misogynoir, misogyny and all forms of anti Blackness x

[@sandramilfort9261]

I like that word mysogynoir 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾

[@Georgia.J]

Well I guess I can only speak 4 myself but I think BW are just..black women. Just like all other women. I certainly don't feel jealous or want to put them down (Halle Berry is probably one of the most beautiful women to have ever lived imo) but the trend of women punishing other women for flaunting their sexuality is definately not limited to BW. Even if a lady is pretty but not wearing revealing clothes women who work with her or see her picture online will be bitchy towards her. I think this is well known and happens to women of all ethnicities. I don't know this lady Chloe but the idea of punishing pretty sexual ladies always happens from jealous women and sometimes jealous men. Men sometimes are surprisingly hostile towards a display of female sexuality they don't expect to see or something they perceive as being sexual anyway! The reason for it all is that a sexual female is very powerful and other women are envious of them and pretend they don't good when they do and are scathing about their looks online. Men have the obvious sexual response of lusting after such ladies but less self assured men are jealous. It is fear based as stated astutely in the video, when a woman acts sexually for herself some men get resentful. I just wanted to say it's not just BW who are treated this way if they are perceived as looking sexy, all ethnicities get s*ut shamed and treated with disdain by other women etc. HOWEVER I have noticed that BM really do have a problem with BW being sexual for themselves. They want a woman to be a "wife " so slim, pretty but submissive so definitely not acting sexually. Certain BM on a very popular KZbin channel are rebelling against the modern BW and rubbishing the academic achievements of BW, putting down their looks etc. You may know this channel and it's pretty horrifying to witness the vicious way black men speak about their women. Women of all ethnicities are sticking up for BW on that channel because it's simply unfair to target a a specific race and openly say they need to change everything about themselves. It's BM who are the main demographic who do look down upon and disrespect BW. I can see its roots are in jealousy and control , but the narrative being sold is BW are too aggressive, acting in "their masculine" and not soft or gentle enough or being too sexual like Megan Thee Stallion and not acting like "wife material ", which is relevant to this video. BM feel they are losing control. It's ridiculous to attempt to stereotype an entire race and gender and say they are ALL exactly the same in thought and deed but that's what bitter BM are doing. Seeing confident cheery women reduced almost to tears being told they are average at best and men will never want them by black men is truly upsetting to witness. I feel Ms Itabor it is BM who wish to see the demise of strong independent sexual BW because it is BM who are insulting BW in the most base cruel ways everyday online. Not all women see "Black women" or "Latina women " etc they just see women . Colour is irrelevant to me personally , I wanted to get the point across not everyone wants to put BW down or even thinks in such a way.

[@ChizobaItabor]

@@Georgia.J Hi Georgia though you have made valid points. I am well aware this happens to all women who choose to own and control their sexuality but I'm specifically talking about Black Women as Khadijah is talking about a Black woman. Also we live in an Anti Black world filled with Misogynoir so it's not only some anti-Black Black Men who act in the ways you described there are some non Black men, non Black women and non Black non binary people who do the same thing too

[@Georgia.J]

@@ChizobaItabor I appreciate your reply and am ashamed that this is the case in this so called "civilised" day and age. Please just know that whilst many do feel the way you stated, not everyone harbours any bad feeling towards black ladies at all. 😊xx It may be trite but that's all I wanted to say and am truly sorry for the poisonous bigotry people continually indulge in that impacts on BW in this way.😳

[@ChizobaItabor]

@@Georgia.J No worries Georgia and don't worry I'm well aware that there are many people that respect and care for us Black women x

[@user-wc9ez9fk1k]

Haven’t gone that far into the video but I have to mention, it’s truly sad how Chloe and Halle have nearly the same body type (yes one is a little slimmer and the other is a little more curvier) but people treat them differently when it comes to that aspect. They already have an image that Chloe is grown because of what she naturally has; yet, they’re shocked when she embraces her body. If they don’t like what they see, it’s not that hard to scroll. They always have something to say about confident black women.

[@giovannaa6105]

its so funny how current beauty standards are extra focused on the extreme hourglass/slim-thick shape and put that as the ultimate goal for every woman, regardless of her ethnicity/body shape/lifestyle, and yet when they naturally have/get this body and feel confident in it, they're shamed and called shallow 🙃

[@melanatedintelligence6977]

@@giovannaa6105 🙌🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾a word

[@lagooldfish]

They are treated differently because they have cultivated different images for themselves. I don't know if Halle is going to change that based on recent appearances, but Chloe has always sexualized her performances and social media in a way her sister hasn't. (That's not an insult to Chloe, I'm just explaining the why)

[@idaf3028]

@@lagooldfish I don’t think Halle will, but Chloe has and there’s nothing people can do about it, it’s her body

[@bonniewillis6796]

@@lagooldfish their body builds play the biggest role. In a few of their quarantine performances they had the exact same outfits on doing the same choreography and people were still going in on Chloe. Halle has to present herself a certain way, because of Disney I'm sure, but even now with her wearing more reveling clothing ppl don't hold the same energy at all.

[@tmarie69]

I laughed my a** off at “Bust It” challenge while holding a bust. Like I cried 😂 Let Chloe live. She is literally 23 years old. Calm down folks!

[@KhadijaMbowe]

that's the other thing, she's 23 figuring herself out, it may be a bit "munch" from time to time, but that's part of the process

[@Gertrude-Intrudes]

The cognitive dissonance of society is insane. It deems low self confidence as undesirable and pressures you to consume products so you can be more confident and beautiful to take over the world, but at the same time shames you when you do have that confidence and tries to humble you- especially if you're a woman, and especially if you're Black. It's so bizarre, it's like a toxic partner that is attracted to your confidence as long as it comes from them exclusively, like "how dare you feel good about yourself without *my* approval?". It's possessive and toxic.

[@sandramilfort9261]

Well said 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾

[@Word-Smithy]

Last year, 50% of the comments under their duo videos were about Halle being too stiff with her body and personality, resulting in holding Chloe back. Every 2nd comment was-- encouraging Chloe to go solo so she can really shine. Fast forward a year and this is the present situation. It was never about letting Chloe shine. It was always about controlling 2 young black women and making sure they were never enough.

[@imani0nline]

I wonder if the locals who are always mad have humbling senses that tingle whenever a black woman is just living their life. Like how are you so mad at her for having the body that she has, please drink some water and breathe .

[@MsStellarBeam]

A word.

[@otuawan]

😆😆😆😆 right !

[@BleFav]

Unfortunately, the thing with the Chloe Bailey situation is about subservience - people (men and the patriarchy) thrive on exploiting women's insecurities and keeping women in their place is about maintaining the order (and power) men have grown accustomed to.

[@roshie187]

👏👏👏👏

[@r.johnson1170]

PERFECTLY SAID

[@unluckyobserver6532]

when I look online it’s mostly women bashing her, first y’all say men sexualize women then y’all say men don’t want women to sexual lol which is it

[@lionlickers6058]

@@unluckyobserver6532 looks like someone just discovered internalized misogyny, congrats!

[@BleFav]

@@lionlickers6058 For real - they're just coming into it 🤣🤣

[@cristinarivera5707]

I’m not even a Chloe Bailey fan and I’m getting so irritated with people talking so badly about her. This is a young lady who’s just finding herself like the rest of us were at that age. She’s absolutely beautiful, is very talented and a sweet girl. There seems to be this resentment from people because she’s being sexy. The audacity! Society absolutely despises women being confident and loving themselves especially women of color because it becomes harder to manipulate, control and exploit them.

[@myasmith1820]

The gag is she is a big nerd but because she is curvy and confident her personality is erased.

[@closertogod1999]

I’m remembering at my first job being pulled into my boss’s office because the women specifically were complaining about my “inappropriate” outfits. I literally covered myself head to toe, no skin showing ever so I was confused (and also only 19 years old). I guess being pear shaped automatically makes clothes that fit “inappropriate.” I was just living in my body. Just like Chloe is. My heart hurts when I think about what she has to go through. It’s not right. #deathtopatriarchy 😘

[@nawal10]

Same sis my director keeps complaining only my students' mom keep complaining about my clothes not even my students who preform the best in my classes anyways or their dads lmao. It's always the annoying moms and other teachers giving me the hardest time and comparing to my director and I'm a grown woman!! And when I go to school I cover up too, it may be fitting but definitely covered from neck to ankles lol. It's just how I look in my clothes that bothers them 😩🤦🏽‍♀️

[@robynhenderson9353]

I like Chloe. She’s theatrical, dedicated, and you can always see that she cares about and puts effort into her performances. I have no issue with how she expresses herself. Women are often told that they’re too much and should not listen to their instincts and intuition. I like watching Chloe be unrestrained and bold. I think the black women and hypersexuality conversation is interesting and does comment on a real problem, but often it just turns into respectability politics and misogyny. In general, for all media, I would be really interested to see an artist who is creative in their sexuality. Because although the attitudes of women expressing their sexuality vary wildly, a lot of times the images of what is sexy end up looking the same.

[@TNDCBaby]

True. I was always a fan of sultry vs overtly sexual. So I like Saweetie's new performance on SNL vs legs splayed and straight booty jiggle. Don't get it twisted. i can appreciate both but I also like a little variety.

[@robynhenderson9353]

@@TNDCBaby I haven’t seen the performance you mentioned, so this may not apply to it, but generally I think that what is seen as sultry now is what was sexy in the 1930s-1960s. I’m more interested in renegotiating what sexiness is and pushing the boundaries of what it can look like, instead of defaulting to older images and archetypes. And I’m interested in how it’s done, because it’s genuinely hard to make something different when you see the same types of images in the media over and over.

[@kionnakelly2918]

This!

[@TNDCBaby]

@@robynhenderson9353 A little but it doesn't have to be. The imagery can be different. For the most part none of what we're seeing is new, it's just easily accessible and dressed up in different clothing.

[@a_awake]

Exactly!!! Women keep claiming to be finding their sexuality and expressing themselves, but are you, or are you just following and repackaging trends that Beyonce and Cardi and Meg already made hot? Sexuality for black women in entertainment is very 1 dimensional right now, and women are following suit to get to the bag. Booty is the trend. Whatever the next trend is, people will do the same. People are sheep 🐑. Follow the herd to be safe.

[@chideraomeh]

This situation reminds me of Amandabb describing McKay from Euphoria. "All women are queens - as long as I respect them." It's 100% the "pro-women" crowd bothered by her the most because they only respect women if they fall under what they consider respectable

[@giovannaa6105]

kind of unrelated but omg i would DIE for an amanda x khadija collab 😭

[@K_i_t_t_y84]

From what I've seen it's just the opposite, the feminists and pro-woman crowd are the ones that are shouting down Chloe's haters the loudest. Women need to protect other women, ain't no one else gonna do it for us.

[@tajsimms8976]

Yeah I mostly see her hate from other black women but they don’t treat meg or the shitty girls this way

[@celinek9686]

@@tajsimms8976 exactly it's stomach turning seeing black women attacking other black women for being them. Like sis the whole world is against us, why are you joining them against your own 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@ChizobaItabor]

I've not finished the video yet but the UNREASONABLE hate that Chloe is getting is ROOTED in misogyny. If she wants to show off her body then she can! The woman is literally 23!

[@JulianSteve]

Exactly… These people gotta let Chloe do what she wants. As long as she is not hurting anyone, let her do what she wants💯

[@ChizobaItabor]

@@JulianSteve Yes yes and YES!!!!

[@unluckyobserver6532]

it’s rooted in female jealousy because men have no issues with her sexualizing herself lol

[@joelle4226]

@@unluckyobserver6532 men definitely still hate on women for their sexuality. I saw and heard men called her crazy or for the streets .

[@jamesg9583]

@@joelle4226 men call any women who doesn’t portray a wholesome image for the streets, it’s often true

[@teresa_meow]

I feel like there is also a big factor of women being very infantilized. I zoned out a little when you mentioned "Eve came from Adam's rib", which has this vibe of men acting like our dads, not taking us seriously, and finding it weird and wrong when we sexualize ourselves. Funny how they go around and do it in anyway 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@monjuee]

I don’t see why people still expect her to be the 12 y/o that dazzled us, the talent is still there but she’s just grown now. I am the same age and feel the same way, I am exploring and learning about myself. She’s young and fine, who’s gonna be bashful about it?

[@Kinglystateof]

What it is Chloe needs to NOT LOOK AT COMMENTS, she’s more sensitive than most and @iameloho said a good point, where Chloe grew up differently and a little less rough around the edges like a Megan thee stallion so she’s navigating what it means to be sexy for her, she should insulate herself from the hate and sometimes turn off the comments so she can do as she pleases

[@JulianSteve]

You have a point Isaiah. By the way, the I Am Eloho video is good. I learned a lot from the video👏🏾‼️

[@greentea673]

Chloe is a Cancer, Megan is an Aquarius

[@YOUNNIE29]

@@greentea673 um what's that supposed to mean? Lol.

[@osabra]

I don't think we can imagine how flooded the comments/replies of someone of her status are. At the same time she's trying to have a career in 2021 when it actually isn't possible to do so without being on instagram live or similar things. So she has to be there to do her job, gets endless comments. I think a certain level of sensitivity is expected and the ability to shake it off comes with experience

[@antoniomorales5533]

It’s so ironic that humans get backlash for just showing the natural skin they were born in. Like do people not have hobbies or projects to work on anymore? The most threatened dog, barks the loudest. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@DanielMartinez-xz8nj]

Women ,women is are the one getting this type of treatment

[@sh0eh0rn4]

honestly, I think it’s so much more about humiliation than humility, especially when it comes to keeping people “in their place”. it’s a male power play to humiliate a women into being humble.

[@Ghost-lt4sf]

Thanks to the way you put it, you just incidentally blew my mind helping me realize humility and humiliation have a shared etymology, omg.

[@sh0eh0rn4]

@@Ghost-lt4sf I had to think about it when it hit me too! 🥰

[@happyblacklegends]

When you started talking about body types it just really hit home with me :'( I remember being in tap dance class and being told by my teacher that my body was a distraction even though I was just wearing leggings and a tank top.

[@illuminatethemainstream7778]

I'm sorry that you were made to feel as if you were doing something wrong just by doing exactly what the other girls in dance class were doing. It's so sad that some people can't see that's it's an issue within the way they view girls or women not the lady's issue.. I remember a time when this wasn't even talked about, it was majority consensus, signed and confirmed that if you're bigger or have curves it's your obligation to not dress a certain way that "MAKES" people look at you sexually or look down on you. I had big boobs at a young age and I remember many many times I felt like it was my fault, I was asking for the sexual attention from older men or disapproval of older women just by existing the way I was. It's good to see this being talked about bc some people really need to wake up and realize their perception is disgusting and damaging to growing girls and women.

[@girljustDIYit]

Hear hear. I 'developed' early. I remember being 15, sitting in CHURCH of all places, and wearing a cute new top. It was cute but nothing revealing as I was wearing it to church. One of my friends' dad stared at my breast for the entire service, making me feel incredibly bad and unsafe. When I told my mom she just said: well it is a very tight top that you're wearing... I never wore the top again. Like it was my fault or the tops fault or the way my bigger chest made my clothes look rather than that stupid dirtbag.

[@125loopy]

@@girljustDIYit I dress very conservatively and wear clothes that are too big for me to try and hide my body. I also developed early. On top of being very curvy, I was also very tall. I experienced so much sexual harassment as a child even when I was wearing my school uniform. One day I was at church wearing a very little girl church dress while sitting down and talking to the pastor and a few other people. I noticed the married pastor and other grown men looking at my chest and one of the deacons told me he liked purple. My bra was purple. He was staring down my dress and noticed it.

[@girljustDIYit]

@@125loopy i am so sorry that happened to you. I hope you wear whatever makes you feel like you, also if that is oversized you go queen! Your body, your rules.

[@Samson16436]

@@125loopy I always wear huge clothes nowadays. But I actually love dressing up femme and fatale so to speak. The reactions make me uncomfortable so I don't do that anymore. I rarely even wear makeup, something I loved getting creative with before. Unfortunately I'm done feeling unsafe because of how I choose to look. I miss getting done up and feeling great :/ Also: that's disgusting. Gross gross groooossss

[@Kuhle980]

I remember when people said Billie Eilish was self hating because she was " covering up" but now Chloe is insecure because she is "exposing" herself.

[@jinorism]

there is no winning at all. it’s so stupid i h8 patriarchy so so much

[@limbalove]

People aren't ready to see a woman shine so bright! When I watch her perform I damn near cry. It's so moving and inspirational

[@unluckyobserver6532]

no one is shaming Beyoncé or Nicki

[@samcharlie7724]

It seemed like the early 2000s, her AMA performance. I loved it. I may start watching them if the have more shows like that.

[@Bii940]

Im sorry but she do not shine At all

[@CoquetFleur]

The if it’s not for you (the men) also explains why women that are deemed to be not attractive (fat women, disabled women etc. are told to cover up) & the sentence „I don’t want it look at that“ often uttered by these men also fits this narrative

[@KhadijaMbowe]

EXACTLY do you follow @wheelchair_rapunzel? She talks a lot about this cause she's exploring being more sexual on instagram and people hate it because she's disabled.

[@CoquetFleur]

@@KhadijaMbowe no I do not but I will look into her. This thought actually came from the fact that I recently came across a random Instagram story of a plus sized women using a skipping rope in front of her home (?!) and a random guy off camera shouts at her „go inside i don’t want to look at that“ and I honestly was just stunned that he thought that was an ok thing to do

[@CoquetFleur]

Honestly sometimes I would really like to discuss the differences in privacy that are there in the us and in Europe (or from my perspective in Germany). What people tell each other openly, what they announce about themselves and what they feel comfortable saying to others are just so different.

[@myasmith1820]

@@CoquetFleur What is the difference? It would be nice to see a non American viewpoint on this

[@CoquetFleur]

@@myasmith1820 there is honestly so much. To preface I live in a large German city & also spend some time abroad in the US. So I have some personal experiences and I am female. Also Europe/Germany are not magical places where nothing bad ever happens. Fist of the encounter that I mention above would have never happened in Germany. Nobody would have the gaul to shout this at a women in broad daylight. Might something similar have happened at night, somewhere where people are partying - yes but not in the day. Second I have never been publicly complimented on my clothes or my body in Germany (but also have never gotten any negative feedback from strangers either). In the US there would regularly be comments on my body and clothes both negative and positive. I also have only ever been catcalled in the US never in Germany. I also never really felt unsafe in Germany at night but felt unsafe in the US in my own apartment (but that might also be due to differences in how the cities are constructed). But that is a bit besides the point… So back to the point, at least where I was in America slogans that proclaim association to stuff where everywhere on cars, on billboards, on clothes. Associations off all kinds political, religious or just hobbies openly proclaimed. In Germany you would never know, for example you would have to guess the polictial association of a person by their status. The only people that openly proclaim their political affiliations (apart from maybe a small sticker on their car bumper) are either far left or far far right (but even then their clothes might make that association more clear). I also have never seen ones political association advertised (I vistied the US during the election of trump vs. Clinton) - whole houses either decked out in red or blue and once again a lot of slogans. In Germany I have Never seen polictial advertising done by a private individual on their own ground ( thinking about it might be illegal to do so - we have very strickt rules about how and when political parties are allowed to advertise). This is just what I can come up with on the spot so my thesis is that Americans to tell other people a lot more about themselves and also tell others a lot more of their options to their face than Germans would.

[@BreeonaNechole]

At first I was shocked but then I realized that’s not my place to police this woman. Most ppl who are coming for her aren’t doing it out of love. She needs to be protected and if she wants to explore herself I’m for it!!! It’s such a great stage to go through as a young woman. I wish her the best 🥰🥲

[@dez-m]

Very true

[@AB-sm1qf]

A lot of this reminded me of Cynthia Nixon’s “Be a lady” monologue where she criticizes not just patriarchy but also brings light to the deliberate ignorance of some women too. When I saw it the first time I was floored. But I also wanted to say this video is beautifully done. I hate to say it but society is all too comfortable with black women downplaying ourselves so that they can all stick out. My nana always said to never be afraid to stick out because the only time they’ll ever stop criticizing is when you die. So ladies, and whoever, own yourself and showcase yourself with pride.

[@lookidocalel286]

Absolutely agree with the whole segment about humility and I’m definitely guilty of mistaking confidence for arrogance. Even when it’s someone you’re not in direct “competition” with, seeing them be so confident when you perhaps aren’t, can be really painful for both parties because you may end up making them feel bad about themselves to even things out. It’s always important to take a look in the mirror and question why you’re acting the way you are and wether it’s truly justifiable.

[@BellesView]

Absolutely! I’ve been there too.

[@LadyAstarionAncunin]

I've never been a jealous person, and I cannot stand insecure people (I know we shouldn't hate, but I legitimately hate insecurity because it's so destructive), so it irks me so much when confidence is confused for arrogance. Assertive black women are seen as especially arrogant because most of the world's societies see us as people who should not be confident, that we're out of order if we totally love ourselves, which shouldn't take away from anyone else but "does" because people feel our self-love means we can't instead always look at them (which they're used to, meaning white folks and black men). That's why every time black women praise ourselves when no one else will, here comes a non-black woman (usually white) on some "all women" stuff. It's because they not only see us as lesser than and they more deserving of that praise but also because they're used to seeing our own people not loving us openly.

[@thewokeagenda]

@@LadyAstarionAncunin i feel like everyone has insecurities and although they are very destructive; i also agree that you can't know something you never knew or learned. a lot of people donno why they feel the way they feel. a lot of them just push their feelings down and fake it till they make it im not saying it's excusing their actions ofc not. im just sayin we gotta think about why so many people feel this way. and my guess corporations teach us with propaganda and manipulation. from a very young age you are taught what is what. (i.e Disney movies, TV shows, celebrities, politics) usually the person who controls the narrative gets to write it. (old white guys 👦🏾) what is on media and what is shown matters so much and can change the perspective of so many. once something is accepted usually on the media then it's kinda known throughout the society. like for example being apart of the LGBTQIA community is a lot more acceptable especially when being shown on television or the media as okay. not all the way okay tho which is why they're still discriminated against or have heavy biases put on them. it really matters how people are depicted for everyone else to see. right now the only people we're getting the full sympathetic story to are white people. mostly white men. then white woman. mostly pretty people too, that's a whole thing.

[@mississipi1103]

Also people choose who has the right to be arrogant I am maybe socially dumb but I don't see arrogance that much, I just see confidence. I also have hobbies which people on the Internet should try ! I am coming from a Jubilee video about" who's the most intelligent" and idk... When I looked at comments... I can't help but wonder if they would have reacted the same if Maria was a man... And if Sada was a white man...

[@SaffyP1]

Black women in the public eye claiming back their power unapologetically and flaunting themselves - because they can! - will always rub ‘others’ up the wrong way 🤨… but all I can hope is that they are happy and know that they are inspiring us all to claim our power back too! ❤️❤️❤️

[@bambii_thinks3147]

I’ve been a Chloe and Halle fan for a minute now and I think there’s something to be said about how we don’t have black woman image variety in the mainstream music industry. I take no issue with Chloe doing her and feeling herself and think people are weirdos for attacking her and other black women who are embracing their sexuality overtly. However I must say I feel like the music industry is telling us hey if you’re a talented black woman wanting to break into the industry you better be ready to sell sex…which I do take a problem with and I think is sad. Before chloes big solo debut with have mercy and her feeling more sexy in her performances(AS SHE SHOULD!). A lot of black girls and young black women online-twitter would talk about how we love the fact that we have a black female duo that isn’t following the standard black woman image of a Megan,Nicki, beyonce, Rihanna e.t.c that have a sexualized image…and I love and live for these women but honestly it was DIFFERENT and nice to see a black woman get props and praise as she deserves and people giving it to her while she wasn’t being overtly sexual. Im trying to not sound misogynistic with what I’m saying as I support women being sexual and feeling good 100% but I also know that the music industry demands sexuality from black women in a way that I don’t see for white women…someone like Billie eillish and Olivia rodrigo can be celebrated and attain success without intentionally leaning into their sex appeal and I haven’t seen that kind of mainstream you’re the shit recognition maybe since lauryn hill? I don’t know if my point is coming across and I also know that Chloe should live for herself and not us and I know all women to varying degrees will be sexualized by the industry but I just think of the mainstream black women in the industry right now and all of their images are overtly sexual and I wonder if some of them also feel that this is what they have to do because society did not give Chloe and Halle the same attention they are giving solo Chloe AT ALL.

[@cyn341]

I agree SO much with this, like these are literally my thoughts exactly on the whole situation. Very well said!

[@merveillemusau7061]

I 100% agree. This is my stance as well. You said it very comprehensively.

[@tiziay]

Well stated!

[@hanaflowery]

I remember that one situation in high school when I borrowed a shirt from my best friend after a sleepover. And I have a B bra cup. No one said anything bad about me all day. No one cared about the top actually. And THEN my best friend put on that exact shirt on herself few days ago. And what happened? Two teachers said it was inappropriate and the principal told her to change. And when she said “I don’t have anything to change to”, she, the principal, gave my friend a huge smelly shirt from lost-and-found box. My best friend has an E cup. It shows perfectly how people created some dumb rules about what people with certain body types can wear and cannot wear. Like, mind your business? It wasn’t even some revealing shirt! And she had to cover up because that’s how her body’s made. I was so mad that day. And honestly? I still am. And as always - your video essay is amazing. Informative, charismatic, fun but still professional. Je t’adore!

[@phadenswandemil4345]

My high school has one day when seniors are allowed to wear working type clothing instead of our usual uniform. One of my friends showed up in a blouse and pencil skirt. Even though her skirt was the right length (covered the knee), she was still asked to change. This is despite the fact that many other seniors were allowed to wear a pencil skirt with no problem. I thought the principal was being silly, but now i see that it's probably because she had a curvier figure.

[@diamcole]

Let me tell you, if my ass was sitting like that...people could not TELL ME SHIT. 👏🏾I don't want to hear it, period. They can barely get a sentence out now.

[@KhadijaMbowe]

looooool you better tell em

[@kuchuyobenai9461]

I think that guys attack women for what they wear because they feel ashamed that they lust after someone's body. They don't want to take responsibility for being the source of the problem so they blame the person they are lusting towards. Guys know that their behavior is problematic, but don't want to accept that, so blaming women absolves them of the guilt they have regarding their instincts/thoughts/feelings. I think a lot of guys are afraid of their thoughts so they preemptively try to solve the problem of having weird thoughts by placing the burden on women to dress less "sexual." If girls dress more conservatively then guys will have less sexual thoughts. By having women feel shame about their bodies it lessens the load on guys to feel shame because they will have less sexual thoughts. In the video you said that people are allowed to acknowledge that someone is hot, but that does not give them the right to the other person's body. Something that I realized that is similar to that is the fact that I'm allowed to feel the way I do because that's something that I can't control, but that I can control whether I react to my emotions or thoughts. Just because I am mad doesn't mean I have to burst out and yell at people. Same concept with seeing someone hot. I can acknowledge that they are hot, but I can choose to not look at them any further and to not have weird thoughts. I think the problem is that a lot of people don't recognize that they are allowed to feel how they feel and that they shouldn't feel shame. That's where I think the problem is. It's because guys feel shame about seeing someone and thinking they are hot and then having weird thoughts. No one likes to feel shame so they try to get rid of it and that gives birth to their mindset that it's women's fault for dressing sexy. When they place the blame on the women that allows straight guys to sexualize women with no guilt.

[@SirEclectic]

I always say "Your perception of me has nothing to do with me and everything to do with you so if you're feeling something, take that up with yourself." I'm not much of a clothes wearer at home and in some of the pics I post I won't have much on so when people are inboxing me I'm like "Me standing with no shirt on or my legs out is not me being sexual, I'm just chillin...you should relax because I'm not trying to entice you with some thighs and feet when everyone has thighs and feet."

[@reneepiper3620]

“Emotions give you a lot of information, and can help guide you a lot if you pay attention to them. Because they’re the most honest things about us. Emotions will say more than you can even articulate at the end of the day.” -Khadija As a fellow Taurus [also fellow, former Opera Singer 👀] I felt such deep agreement with this. Emotions are the very beginning of truth. We are animals; emotions are the only thing that remind us we are. 🤍🤍🤍 Thank you for your mind and spirit, always!! ✨✨✨

[@cynthiahoward2285]

I totally agree with that statement! Fellow Taurus also.

[@adelinelacroix6743]

@@cynthiahoward2285 oh how I do love to find like-minded tauruses in the wild.

[@sirenthomas4595]

Can we talk about how older women are often jealous of youth as a result of internalized misogyny...and fear of aging.

[@adarateranroldan]

Maybe, but many women are relieved to outgrow the intense heat of the male gaze.

[@sirenthomas4595]

@@adarateranroldan sure as i am now 40 the intensity is wearing off with YOUNGER MEN but trust the older ones WHOOOOO CHILE...i got a 55 yr old man really trying it HARD LOL like big mad i wont date him

[@gashafashi08]

@@sirenthomas4595 40 isn't old he he

[@sirenthomas4595]

@@gashafashi08 thank you for that but im a realist i know our society even in the POC community still are ageist...ive had men run when they found out i was also 40 like them...they wanted younger women LOL....its cool they sucked and i feel for the younger women. I always warn younger women if you date older BE VERY OBSERVENT and careful those fools try to play you...hell they try to play us too LOL.

[@gashafashi08]

@@sirenthomas4595 True, I am 41 and am kinda embarrassed to say that younger men think am in my 20's though majority of those that find me attractive are 50 upwards 🤭🤨 Anyway, it's ok coz, I don't date no more.

[@sarahg2653]

Had to click off here and see who Chloe was. After watching her in about 30 min of interviews, I'm quite shocked that anyone would think that sweet girl needs humbling!

[@sapphic.flower]

whenever female idols or celebrities are streaming, people always nag them like they’re their parents. “Gain/lose weight, button up your shirt, wear less makeup”. It’s just people policing women and antagonizing female sexuality.

[@daniellehendricks4606]

Talk!!! I was so baffled at the conversation happening under Chole’s AMA performance. People talking about how they hope her new song shows off her vocals - please bish She wanted a performance song so she put out a performance song - and she gave amazing performances. If you want vocals - go listen to the two albums she did with her sister or go listen to the covers they did. Some always want to be dictating what artist should do and what direction they should go - like, how about no? Just sit back and enjoy or ignore what they come put with. People be trying to box this poor woman into an image they have of her, not accepting what she’s trying to tell the world about herself. Let her experiment.

[@tajsimms8976]

That part all these new “fans” who ain’t even listen to the ungodly hour or even knew who chole was before have mercy really need to shut tf up! This girl has been growing and maturing and becoming more and more herself through the years! Both of them actually

[@latrice2850]

I feel like the people who need to watch this video won’t🤦🏾‍♀️but anywayyyyyy great video!

[@mynameisuju]

I saw the title and immediately said "YES" because it is alarming how this girl brings out violent displays of insecurity from people

[@Golden90960]

I’m not even half way through but I feel so grateful for this video because I did a bunch of stuff for a brides wedding day, and the bride is someone I actually grew up with but she’s bullied me on and off but I would always go back to being her friend. I am a GG cup and she said I tried to ruin her entire wedding and called me a miserable bitch and all of these horrible things because I had cleavage at her wedding. I made mistakes, I got really drunk and thought everything was fine naively. It haunts me still everyday that so many people judged me for how I looked. I thought I looked beautiful. I really struggle to hold my head up high ever since. I’ve been going through a lot the last few years and my mental health is deteriorating. I wish I could start life all over. But anyways, I’m grateful for your content. It keeps me educated and it feels like a safe place.

[@pattygould8240]

Dr Tracy Marks does mental health videos you might find helpful. I certainly have.

[@Golden90960]

@@pattygould8240 thank you!!!

[@mimimusick9734]

You obviously did look beautiful that day, otherwise the bride wouldn't have bullied you and tried to bring you down. This is clearly HER problem, nothing to do with you. She sounds miserable and insecure and tried to make you the same so she could feel good about herself. If she felt secure with herself and her partner she wouldn't have gone at you the way she did. She sounds like a dickhead who'll be divorced in five years, and I really hope you're rid of her toxicity because you deserve people in your life who are going to be happy for you and proud to call you their friend.

[@totallythandi2555]

I'm GG and I really get this. A lot of my life I was dragged for it and didnt understand...I used to overcompensate a lot. I eventually grew from it. I wish you healing! 💖

[@Golden90960]

@@totallythandi2555 thank you so much!!! Same to you 💗

[@margicates553]

I’ll never forget leaving the house for my choir concert in a nice purple dress and my next door Nieghbor who I barely spoke to at the time saying “ somebody’s about to get raped” 😣 I was 19. I hit puberty late, I felt pretty and excited to sing. I walked to the concert, I was shattered.

[@jenm1]

Wtf

[@teresa18870]

That is horrible and I’m so sorry you had to hear something like that

[@Samson16436]

That's insane and horrible! Wtf is wrong with that person smh

[@JenniferBrigitteOpticalVortex]

I just teared up! I am so sorry!

[@olilondonisabum7170]

they could have been trying to warn you

[@TheCrogun]

The point you made about men being jealous of women being able to be show their body and be "sexy" is so true. Personally I've never really had that feeling of being "sexy" or "attractive", and have felt jealously towards women because of that. A lot of men rarely if ever have that feeling of being attractive/desired/sexy (at least when it comes to their bodies) and imo, there's a real conversation to be had about how that impacts the way that they view and interact with the world.

[@witchplease9695]

I appreciate your honesty. The way men and women are desired is different. Straight and bisexual women lust after men but not the same way a straight or bi man lusts after woman. I think women’s lust of men stems more from romanticization than sexualization.

[@emcrolls]

Existence in yourself & agency can be revolutionary 🙌

[@reginehunter]

I feel like another point needs to be made. I was on Discord when Chloe posted her dance challenge and there was a fully grown man in there dragging her and calling her all types of names and kept saying how she’s his daughters age. I’ve noticed this trend before with straight men, if they are aroused sexually by someone they “shouldn’t” be aroused by they will lash out at that person. I’ve seen this happen when a straight man might get involuntarily aroused by a gay man and they will start to disrespect that gay man and throw slurs at him or constantly speak on their disdain for gay people. That guy on Discord probably felt being attracted to a young woman his daughters age was inappropriate (though she is an adult) and wanted to “punish” and insult Chloe because it’s somehow her fault for arousing him. The topics of sexuality and sexual attraction is still so taboo and we need to start having HONEST conversations about it. Like real, in depth, lay all the ugly truths on the table kind of conversations.

[@bennett8535]

There's nothing wrong with being humble. Many people are naturally humble; it's part of their personality. However, that's a very different things from other people trying to humble a person. It's no one's business trying to humble someone else; if anything it points to their own lack of humility. People need to stop worrying about how other people are living their lives and pay attention to how they live their own lives.

[@daffo595]

I’m pretty sure Halle wears revealing clothing as well but she doesn’t get near the backlash Chloe does.

[@dionysus9876]

Hit the nail on the head! In my opinion, it's because Halle has a slimmer/not as curvaceous figure.

[@antonsummers_]

Literally! When Halle wears revealing clothes people see her as classy and graceful and manage to try and use it to shade Chloe like they don't both wear revealing outfits sometimes and are grown women.

[@marvelkid2424]

You’re not wrong !! I literally just looked at Halle’s Instagram page and she wears revealing clothing just as much as Chloe yet nobody seems to care about what she wears smfh.

[@daffo595]

And it just occurred to me that Halle is younger in age as well.

[@chinyere6412]

She wore a jacket open with nothing under and someone commented that Chloe Should learn how to do classy sexy! It was so funny cos the dumb person didn’t realize Chloe just has a different body type.

[@LadyAstarionAncunin]

Folks want to keep black women "humble" (read: insecure to self-hating) so we're that much easier to exploit and make fun of and steal from. Issa "no" for me. Forever "no." You're not going to confuse my confidence for arrogance.

[@mandipandi303]

I hope Chloe sees this. People seriously need to stop policing other people's bodies.

[@celinek9686]

Me too 😊

[@coilycutie436]

Haven’t watched the entire video but ngl something about this topic triggers something within me. I think my gripes with Chloe’s Have Mercy era isn’t the fact that it’s sexual, just that it is so aggressively sexual in nature. Music videos, performances. It’s gotten to the point where I hesitate and end up not clicking on any new posts or videos because I just get very uncomfortable with some of the things she does. I’m guessing this issue is going to be addressed in the video but imo being 17 and black, I’m just tired of black girls only being promoted by the media once they become overtly sexually (keyword being overtly) and it seems that that’s where they’re personas and personalities begin and end. I know some people think that the people criticising her new image are just haters hiding behind constructive criticism (many are) but some of us really just want to emphasize and show her that we like her music, her voice, her talent. We appreciate her body but it’s not the only thing we’re here for. It sucks that celebrities fall victim to people’s unpredictably shifting perspectives on subjects. I wish she could just live and explore her life without the baggage that comes with having to retain a respectable image and the image of younger black girls against the misogynoir that comes from the world but at the moment that’s just wishful thinking. Black girls understand that we’re nuanced but the rest of the world does not. There’s a part of me that wants to prove that we aren’t always preoccupied with sex and everything associated with it ( toxic Ik, I’m working on it). But that’s not her responsibility to take on. This is why I’m just taking this as a challenge to not say anything and allow people to grow and come into themselves. I don’t watch her videos but I do stream her and Halle’s music ALOT and so do a lot of my friends. We want to see her win.

[@Jadianne]

I do understand where you are coming from but I think you need to be more understanding of Chloe as well. It's all well and good for you to hope she is aware that they are people who truly appreciate her talent and aren't just there for her body.....as if you wish she could just draw strength from that and stop with all the 'shenanigans'..... but please try to realize and understand that she has never not been confident in her ability, her body and her sexuality is where she feels insecure because of the constant attacks and backlash and just overwhelmingly negative attention and she is out here just trying her BEST to not allow people to warp her self image and fighting tooth and nail to hold on to her self love and her pride in her body and by christ, if she feels she needs to shove it down their throats in order to own it I WILL SUPPORT HER IN THAT

[@AlphabetSoup123]

I agree. I’m an OF fan, and this pivot by Chlöe wouldn’t be as alarming if it felt like SHE wanted to be sexualized because it was her desire. Not what sells. Every video feels like Chlöe’s cosplaying at being someone else’s idea of sexy. She’s super talented. Yet, the world only knows her for one lackluster song. This evolution reminds of CxH’s song, “Simple,” being played out in real time. Chlöe seems to have realized no one wanted her when she and her sister were covered and making quirky and unique beats. So, she’s now going the hypersexual route to project herself into mainstream. My biggest gripe is Chlöe NEVER appears at pease or ease being others image of sexuality. I get Eloho’s point. I just wish Chlöe, like Lizzo, would keep herself offline doing her exploration phase into her sexuality to protect herself from being emotionally battered. She’s seems like such a sweet person. But, appears to want outward validation too much making her an easy target to be bullied online.

[@Jadianne]

@@AlphabetSoup123 I think alot of what you may be seeing is the very same issue that Khadija herself admitted she is still working on. We as black women have all been raised to strive for a certain level of 'respectability' in the way we dress and portray ourselves and despite having acknowledged the misogynoir inherent in that mindset and wanting to express ourselves and own our sexuality and scream 'eff the patriarchy' with the best of them, we just can't help but feel uncomfortable when we wear anything considered too 'over the top' because we have had years of that ingrained in our psyche. What you are probably seeing is just another young black women who truly doesn't feel any differently than you but is trying her best to be who she wants to be.....which is someone who is not ashamed to be sexual

[@AlphabetSoup123]

When you look in Chloe’s eyes even when she’s buttoned up and covered up, she appears sad. This is what I’m referencing. It’s like she’s getting everything she ever wanted and it’s still not making her happy. That sadness is making me wonder who is this performative hyper sexuality for. Her? Or the male gaze? To each their own.

[@quietcell]

I mean... A lot of being in your 20s involves feeling sad. And sometimes feeling aggressively sexual 😂. We all just need to let people live. And let her enjoy her body in its prime. We can be totally respectable and responsible and educated and articulate and all the bullshit will still be there. So we might as well do what we like ✨

[@dosesofdee3708]

I am actually a huge Chloe fan, but I think the issue people have with this new “version” of her is that it doesn’t seem authentic. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with her expressing her sexuality and showing out, because her body is FIRE. She just doesn’t ooze effortless sexuality. It comes across as forced and cringeworthy at times because it just doesn’t seem natural. I think that she’ll figure out what genuinely works for her in time. She’s insanely talented (as is Halle), and she’s here to stay. Just my opinion.

[@AGEE_95]

We can't know what is genuine for her, because we aren't her, and we don't know all off how she expresses herself sexually, behind closed doors (nor do we need to, that's her business). The only reason some people feel it's forced is that they are uncomfortable with how overtly sexual, she is. But that's yall's problem, not hers. You can't project your feelings of discomfort onto her and make up nonsense about it not being who she really is, just because you don't like seeing it for whatever reason. It's fine if you don't, but it's not because it's inauthentic, because you can't say that for sure, when you don't know her personally. And being a huge fan of hers, and watching her grow up, doesn't equate to knowing exactly when Chloe is being her true self and when she isn't. It's enough to just say, you don't like seeing her that way, and not be worried people will call you a hater. You don't have to force this "it's not organic to who she really is", narrative, to justify that opinion. Just have that opinion, without also making baseless assumptions about the woman.

[@dosesofdee3708]

@@AGEE_95 funny that you’re talking about making assumptions, but you’re assuming that I take issue with overt sexuality. I don’t. My favorite female artists are Rihanna and Janet Jackson - both have been known to be extremely sexual, and I personally take no issue with them because, TO ME, it looks effortless and natural. My opinion is that Chloe’s overt sexuality looks forced. It’s my opinion, to which I’m entitled. No, I don’t know her personally. I don’t know whether she’s a sexual being behind closed doors or not, nor do I care. What I do know is that it looks to me, (and obviously to many others since it’s being criticized to this degree) to come off as unnatural and awkward.

[@AGEE_95]

@UCtpqVvvBf20shd_yaWHneqw I wasn't assuming that you take issue with general overt sexuality. I just know that, whatever issue you take with Chloe in particular, it's not because it comes off as inauthentic because you don't know that it is inauthentic. It looks cringy to you, cool. There's still no basis for saying that is forced, just because it "looks" that way to you for whatever reason. Pointing out that a lot of people share the opinion that it's forced and not genuine to her, doesn't make it any less based on nothing. But people can have that opinion, and feel to express it all day, as long as they know that they can't actually be sure what's natural to her and what's not.

[@oh.hey.2045]

@@dosesofdee3708 but most people DO have a problem with her being sexy. Your just one of the smarter people.

[@JoeMama-tw6gu]

omg you look amazing !! also to anyone else who reads this casteify cases are fire khadija ain’t lying

[@mistwowlol]

It’s okay, Ms. Thing. You can remove “(some of)” from the title. Let the girls SWEAT.

[@KhadijaMbowe]

LOOOOOL me trying to be polite

[@mistwowlol]

@@KhadijaMbowe I probably would’ve done the same thing 😭 If it made you uncomfortable, you didn’t have to change it. I am but a username on the internet.

[@immateriaIboy]

watching the treatment of chloe shift in real time was so jarring and honestly gross. and those same people always hide behind “constructive criticism” just to be spiteful. anyways let me hop into this video and get this t. 😌

[@immateriaIboy]

“you have to give yourself permission to be” YESSS🙌🏿

[@halikay640]

Isn't she also like 22?! Everything you said is spot on per usual. She's still so young and figuring herself out so I will always offer grace in the face of that. I don't know why people act like most of us weren't just like her at some point in our younger years. Or maybe still there which is okay! The only difference is that she's coming into herself in front of the whole world. Seems like she has a great support system around her though which I'm glad to see.

[@zaxxya7883]

Incredible video! I'm mostly commenting to help boost you in the algorithm, but do y'all think that part of this issue is how racist stereotypes have frequently depicted black women as "masculine"? Like it seems to me that part of the outrage at Chloe Bailey, Megan Thee Stallion, etc comes from anger that they are "succeeding" in feminity in a way that's supposed to be reserved for white women

[@Cat-tastrophee]

Humility is a HUGE part of purity culture in Christianity as well, which I think has a big impact on American society at large. The Bible is not very supportive of women, unfortunately, and the few passages that do discuss women directly are mostly about humility and duty to one's husband and home. While the Bible does warn against "lustful thoughts," women's clothing is much easier to police.

[@tinyseamonster]

I don't have a ton of background on Chloe - I didn't follow her child acting career, I also haven't really been aware of her social media presence, so the only context I have on her 'image' is the transition she made from Chloe&Halle to her solo career. I've seen a couple of their interviews, and it's very clear that Chloe is a kind of a lovable nerd, and obviously a talented young woman. I agree with every point in this video, so just adding my thoughts. Chloe's agency (as far as her sudden overt sexuality) in the context of how aggressively prescriptive the music industry is with the image of female artists (especially black women) is what's questionable to me. It seems manufactured, and FOR the male gaze primarily, like some kind of a fucked up requirement of success. As in, if you're a black woman in R'n'B *AND* you are curvy then you *HAVE TO* gyrate and show your whole body, because there's no other way you can or should be seen. Basically, I hope is that Chloe is actually growing into her sexual power naturally and not being coerced by the media machine, music execs and warped societal expectations of what 'growing up' looks like for a woman.

[@totallythandi2555]

TOTALLY AGREE

[@Beebop008]

I’m old. People act like they were never twenty-two. Some people are just more dramatically built. I am not, so I applaud. I applaud you too Khadija. You’re an excellent observer of, and commentator on, the human condition. Chloe x Halle have done so well together and separately.They managed to be everywhere from the beginning of the pandemic through now, and hopefully beyond. I’m so proud of you all. Thank you for doing what you do.

[@quietcell]

More dramatically built✨ I love this phrase! I am not dramatically built so I can wear less clothes and not look sexy. Drawing attention can be very stressful. It must be so frustrating to feel you have to temper your outfits to reduce tiresome interactions.

[@Nyammings]

This made me think of the artiste Koffee and all the speculations of her being gay because she doesn't dress 'feminine.' Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

[@Bree8tiveBEing]

Lord have mercy, I am so tired of folks deputizing themselves as modesty police and policing other people's bodies and actions in those bodies. The respectability politics are strong within this topic too. There is a history of not only the dominant group but religious groups policing the female form. Some folks in these groups are having trouble relinquishing control, letting go of the "protector" role they think they play, and do not know how to sit with discomfort. Just because something makes a person uncomfortable doesn't mean another person owes the person in discomfort anything. As I watched, I am reminded of how much more Black women's bodies have been more heavily, disproportionately policed. Our bodies, hair, speech. In school, I was so keenly aware of how the dress code was enforced mostly on Black girls, particularly with figures, yet white peers especially less curvy were given a pass to wear the shortest shorts and skirts. They were not sexualized and put under the same moral scrutiny. They were allowed to innocently exist. Until sex itself is less demonized, women deemed more desirable and/or sexual will continue to be policed/humbled by the groups seeking to gatekeep morality and respectability.

[@theetherealshaye]

Self love isn’t just an act of appreciation, it’s also an indirect act of feminism, because in a world that is so insistent on black women portraying one appearance standard and personality type, it is a show of resilience and soft power to say that we love our personalities and our appearances enough to be our unapologetic selves. If you can’t do it out of love, do it out of spite.

[@rochelle1192]

That part about fear of envy. Obeah and all kinds a black magic our parents warned us against. People steal and curse your things, so much more. Which is why, I try to play dumb, or downplay my beauty (sounds weird but I don't mean that in a bad way) not because of virtue signalling but because standing out comes with a cost. One that can be very bad. So most times, I don't show up physically or try to be hot, even for myself because I know the attention I would get and I don't want to pay the price for it. Or pretend to be absent minded in classes and so on because people can be dreadful.

[@pettriej8734]

Girl , that's literally me , I'm 25 now and I started want to look good but at the same I struggle because of the attention I might get and how women are gonna look and treat at differently no that I "look good" .

[@OfJournalandJourney]

I’m like this as well, I’ve been shamed for how my body looked all of my life & always dressed down. I’m changing that though slowly

[@pantomimegoose]

Is it just me, or does the obsession with “humble women” have some ties with the obsession with the ingenue? Like society loves the idea of a young woman who just came into their own and doesn’t know how good they look yet. It’s pretty infantilizing to assume that beautiful women should always be like “who me???” and not be aware of the power they might hold.

[@Axumawit_]

I think When you have a problem with a person just existing and doing whatever the fuck is comfortable with. It's showing your insecurity and just dragging everyone with you because you feel threatened or even entitled to have an opinion. Chloe is thriving and being confident in her own skin. Let her be.

[@milarose275]

I soooo agree that confidence is hated because of jealousy, I never thought of that before

[@nawal10]

Her sis shows skin too and has bikini pics but no one comes for her. Why? Because no one feels uncomfortable with her sister's beauty. But Chloe has the body of a goddess and it makes women who aren't built that way feel a way, mostly insecure. We need to stop feeling insecure and appreciate our own unique beauty. Chloe is stunning and still growing and learning. Why should she hide or be apologetic for her feminity? Her and her sis can wear the same outfit but Chloe will always get more "hate" and cover up comments.

[@lalaland8693]

People really be taking Chloe’s *choices as grown woman* personally lol. I’ve seen a lot of “her doing this is so disappointing/feels so forced/says a lot about society :,(“ but, as far as I know, she’s a grown woman making her own choices about what she wants to do so why can’t we just let her be? I mean the music slaps and I think her performances are great so idc

[@karakurie]

Pretty privilege's downside. It can be actually really terrifying sometimes when people get mad at you for them being attracted to you but you not being interested. I remember many times when a man got angry at me because I just said 'no thank you' to whatever his request was and said that I was the one that made him come up to me...Maybe because I wore makeup, or did my hair nice, or wore some clothes THEY liked. I actually wonder how much this happens to women in general... I literally live in a foreign country so I dunno who most of the people you are talking about are, but I thoroughly enjoyed the convos. Also your points about humility I totally agree with. I have realized if you humble yourself then people will treat you nicer, but if you're actually honest and the other person feels weaker than you then they will hate you. (noticed this at work, so I just stay humble at work and be myself outside of work) I've come to feel that its attractive only because you relinquish power to them and they feel they can control you.

[@kiwihair5939]

It never happens to me because I’m a minor who never goes outside, when I do go outside I wear mini skirts and such but I don’t get comments about it (at least to my face) in public probably because of my petite frame. My body type isn’t considered desirable, but it’s not a body type that people actively are prejudged against. So I’m invisible to unwanted eyes (men), the comments I get are all from girls and that makes me happy cause I’m lesbian lol.

[@kiwihair5939]

(I’m talking about comments about my looks btw, idk why but I never feel like it’s creepy when it comes from women cause I feel safe around them??)

[@kissit012]

It happens to me all the time, at work, at the store, minding my own business. I’ve been threatened, and received a lot of aggressive backlash from politely expressing disinterest in other’s pursuits, if not relentless pressuring to entertain interactions I’m not interested in. It’s harder because I’m asexual and aromatic and people (especially men) seem to pretend to not comprehend how I am not interested in them just because they express interest in me. I understand that I am considerably attractive to others, but it’s irrelevant to me in most areas of my life. Not just that, even people who are not interested (usually women) will express disdain and go out of their way to be mean if they think I receive preferential treatment because of my appearance or if they feel I’m not humble enough (which I refuse to accept as I believe humility is a useless denial of reality), maybe stemming from their own insecurities. I usually keep to myself and don’t go out of my way to attract attention from others, but I recently decided hiding myself is a way these people win and is a waste of effort on my part.

[@kiwihair5939]

@@kissit012 yeah idk why people feel the need to humble others, it doesn’t really make sense to me.

[@sadeanthony2760]

Happens to me all the time

[@rebekahf7721]

Your bust it joke was great.

[@KhadijaMbowe]

thank you

[@Macaroonsonaplate]

You gotta love how women preach “my body my choice” but as soon as a woman makes a choice with her body those same women are the first to say she doesn’t have that choice

[@Kmama801]

I dunno why but this reminds me a lot of Miley Cyrus… she tried to bust out in a huge way with her foam finger and twerking and what not. She was really like this for a while and then suddenly decided that was too much and that being like that was not reflective of herself, now she went back to her “roots” (covering up more, singing country music, not smoking as much) and now she’s respected again. Was that her decision to “go back” or was it all of the pressure of society? I honestly don’t know. I get what people say about Chloe but who cares? She is doing what she wants and as long as she ain’t hurting no one, live your life girl 👏🏾👏🏾

[@whoknows9085]

I think Miley just got bored appropriating Black people honestly Which goes to show, that these people can profit off of Black culture, sexualize it, but then go back to her “country” roots whenever

[@please_stahp98]

" stop putting your projections on other people " " stop putting that negative energy on other people " " people don't effing exist for you " my constant words for myself as i try navigate as a young 20-something, racialized black , "voluptuous" fem-folk.

[@loryndabenson2118]

Im here for Chloe and Halle finding their own lanes and discovering themselves and their femininity and everything. I wish I had the space to do this when I was a teen and didn't have so much trauma to heal from in my 20's. I think a lot of women hating because they see Chloe young and beautiful finding herself and they're jealous that they didn't have the space or confidence to do that. Instead of being happy for her they attack her and other young women like her just doing their thing.

[@Skysthelimit212]

I do like her as an Artist but the antics on the stage just didn't feel like they were authentically her. I dont think she should be bashed or hated. It just didn't feel like she was being herself. It always felt forced. I've never hated her, I follow her on IG and I think she's a beautiful young woman, my personal opinion...it felt forced.

[@melw9147]

That’s exactly how I feel. I wish people would not conflate this with hating.

[@Skysthelimit212]

@@melw9147 right! I completely agree!! There are certain artists that exude sexy without forcing it i.e Rihanna, Beyonce, Halle Bailey, Lady Gaga, and it feels natural. Chloe felt very "look at me i can be sexy" it didn't seem like that was her true persona. Doesn't take away from her talent etc. But I think the antics are starting to outshine her talent. She can do it all yet idk if it was her choice or her teams choice but it felt like "sex sells, do it for popularity" and not so much this is truly who she is.

[@kissit012]

She’s literally saying that everything she’s done is a true expression of herself and people still refuse to believe it because it’s not what they want (with agreement from her sister and close friends). “Authentically her” is a ridiculous statement since you don’t know her personally and she is completely unaware of your existence.

[@Skysthelimit212]

@@kissit012 it just comes off forced, point blank period. It doesn't seem authentic. Nothing to do with her artistry, talent, looks, the forced sexy image just feels....forced

[@Deycallme_cherry]

I really do feel bad for Chloe because she is just simply growing up and people just won’t let her. IT’S HER BODY😤🙄😑

[@Anonymous-ny9bx]

Hi 👋

[@LoLovesLife]

I also feel like we should have a conversation about women creating content that is intentionally sexual in nature and designed to inspire erotic feelings in the observer. There's NOTHING wrong with that! Also, it doesn't mean that it's the ONLY goal of her art and it doesn't devalue her art. Those who aren't comfortable viewing it....maybe don't tune in?

[@celinek9686]

Exactly!

[@delphilashay-el5453]

I’ll admit I was harsher on her live performances than was fair. BUT She’s insanely talented and my opinion was not only unfair but I also can’t wait for the full album. We can all be nicer to black woman

[@125loopy]

Good on you for learning and correcting yourself

[@delphilashay-el5453]

@@125loopy thanks, it’s all we can do right? I like this idea of envy or discomfort acting as a kinda roadmap to self reflection.

[@SistahPunkStudios]

ok khadija giving me gay panic in the first minute of the episode 😂

[@Deycallme_cherry]

I feel like y’all are comparing the sisters because of course this always happens with any duo anyways and what’s sadder is that there literally sisters. Not to mention y’all saying Chloe should go solo and now that she is, you’re saying she’s doing much and praising Halle for not doing as much as her sister. Legit comparing them without even noticing but like I said before this will always happen with any duo. I’m so tired of the bs. Thanks for reading btw😅

[@asterismos5451]

13:17 No, you're entirely right. There's a reason the most famous, well-paid, and well-respected women are slim with small boobs. If I wore a well-fitting women's suit even, I'd be seen as wearing inappropriate work attire while a slim woman wearing the exact same style would be respected. I don't need a different body to be worth listening to and respecting, everyone just needs to change their minds.

[@user-uc7lo8sb1e]

People dislike Chloe because she's absolutely beautiful, Very intelligent & VERY talented, Also she has a BODY that was MADE by GOD, "AKA-REAL" While OTHERS are trying to get a BODY like HERS from a plastic surgeon...#TheHateIsReal

[@sarahbush4462]

I feel like the humble thing being attractive is because women with low self esteem are easier to win over. so an attractive humble woman will supposedly be easier to win over, ie less attractive/ rich men can pull them or men in general can win them over with less effort than women who understand their value and expect people to reach their standards in order to get close.