"Take the title away" says Michael Kay on the Astros scandal

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4 жыл бұрын

The Michael Kay Show says to take the title away from the Astros as more reaction comes in from MLB players and managers including Yankees outfielder Giancarlo Stanton. Subscribe for daily sports videos!
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@coltonnash667
@coltonnash667 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a good time to be a Mariners fan. Their record for years now is proof they don’t cheat.
@chaosawaits
@chaosawaits 4 жыл бұрын
Or they're just lousy at that too
@marcels_wine9602
@marcels_wine9602 4 жыл бұрын
chaosawaits mariners are too innocent to do that, plus we’re like in the hardest division
@suryatallavarjula3184
@suryatallavarjula3184 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being an A’s fan for all these years
@chaosawaits
@chaosawaits 4 жыл бұрын
@@suryatallavarjula3184 That's what's annoying about all this talk. Everyone is talking about the Yankees and the Dodgers getting cheated, but what about the Oakland A's who won 97 games two seasons in a row but didn't get to host a playoff series because of the Astros?
@chaosawaits
@chaosawaits 4 жыл бұрын
@@marcels_wine9602 dude, it was a joke. The Mariners need talent, not cheating.
@thomaslatimer571
@thomaslatimer571 4 жыл бұрын
The commissioner doesn’t have the balls to take the title away
@hookemdagawd5607
@hookemdagawd5607 4 жыл бұрын
Y would he wen gm 7 was in LA?!?🤔😆
@jeremiebrooks6169
@jeremiebrooks6169 4 жыл бұрын
It's just a peace of metal to him
@daltonpayne4227
@daltonpayne4227 4 жыл бұрын
HOOKEM da Gawd and that means what?
@daltonpayne4227
@daltonpayne4227 4 жыл бұрын
HOOKEM da Gawd bro you guys got shit on by the Yankees at home in the ALCS. Lmao look at the road home splits
@jrcell5832
@jrcell5832 4 жыл бұрын
HOOKEM da Gawd they would have never made the World Series without cheating that’s why!
@begreat2038
@begreat2038 4 жыл бұрын
2:33 what is that Peter ? 😂😂😂 Peter - idunno wasn’t me don’t kill me Michael
@yarapah
@yarapah 3 жыл бұрын
Michael put the fear of God into Peter lol
@aa697
@aa697 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Fiers should be commended for his honesty. He did the absolute right thing.
@metalmaniac1244
@metalmaniac1244 4 жыл бұрын
Fiers is a rat and a cheater himself, has he given back his 2017 championship ring? And he cheated by using pine tar to throw that no hitter in Houston.
@colinmoe2871
@colinmoe2871 4 жыл бұрын
@@metalmaniac1244 Virtually every team in the league has their pitchers use pine tar.
@hookemdagawd5607
@hookemdagawd5607 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine applauding a fuqin 🐀
@metalmaniac1244
@metalmaniac1244 4 жыл бұрын
@@colinmoe2871 wrong and it's against the rules but I guess it's ok for your team to cheat but not the Astros.
@baseball7309
@baseball7309 4 жыл бұрын
metalmaniac 101 why would he give back the ring if the commissioner hasn’t taken the title away
@MT-tu8dt
@MT-tu8dt 4 жыл бұрын
Take the title, the rings, MVP, the World Series bonuses, and 3 year ban from the playoffs.
@mwase7782
@mwase7782 4 жыл бұрын
impossible to accomplish
@MT-tu8dt
@MT-tu8dt 4 жыл бұрын
tawanda mwase not if MLB gets a new Commissioner.
@walden6272
@walden6272 4 жыл бұрын
Forced them to use the name Houston Assholes for those 3 yrs ban.
@Nicky2Chains
@Nicky2Chains 4 жыл бұрын
so punish the players who werent on the 2017-2019 teams. you just can't. I'd say suspend the position players that played on those teams for a year.
@johnmartinez8041
@johnmartinez8041 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nicky2Chains He granted immunity. I'll be perfectly fine if he took the title away
@superkid12345
@superkid12345 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny, at first i thought taking the title away was extreme, but after the constant lies and cover ups, there is no other option than to strip them of the title. If you strip them, they they can have a redemption storyline if they ever win again, if they keep it, no one will ever respect any other title they win.
@yarapah
@yarapah 4 жыл бұрын
Regardless, I think no one will respect any title they ever win again because of this scandal.
@jameslisle7775
@jameslisle7775 4 жыл бұрын
gorobot No one will ever respect them either way!
@tielmaster7879
@tielmaster7879 4 жыл бұрын
Nah he's right. If years down they get new guys and they win a title after getting it stripped, it'll be redeemed. But as of now, it's gonna just be a big joke.
@lalive2993
@lalive2993 4 жыл бұрын
Houston can have its title. Why not just ban the players who were part of the plan and involved🤔 but the commissioner grants immunity to actual physical cheaters🤦‍♀️
@tielmaster7879
@tielmaster7879 4 жыл бұрын
@@lalive2993 that's what I thought they were gonna do. But no. Manfred is making Goodel look like a people's man.
@fredflintstone2036
@fredflintstone2036 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe Garret Cole was sending a message when he gave his final interview after Astros lost the WS, with the cap of his agent instead of the Astros cap. Like saying: "I want out of this mess ASAP"
@toomuchsalt13
@toomuchsalt13 4 жыл бұрын
Fred Flintstone *Gerrit
@JB-zo7ln
@JB-zo7ln 4 жыл бұрын
He couldn't have gotten out of Houston fast enough.
@stevencross6778
@stevencross6778 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought like i can see Cole warming up in the bp and say no I'm not coming in
@LzCoda
@LzCoda 4 жыл бұрын
Cole's guilty too. If he had any sort of integrity he - and every other Astros player - would have spoken up as soon as the ring leaders started their cheating. And I don't want to hear about clubhouse rules. Every profession is expected to uphold standards of professionalism. Lawyers, teachers, military officers, etc. Ballplayers, specifically these players, are a disgrace.
@anthonyyoutubefan7567
@anthonyyoutubefan7567 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevencross6778 Is it true that there's footage of Cole looking visibly uncomfortable/perturbed when The Astros hit a game-changing home run in the playoffs?
@brinthaavan
@brinthaavan 4 жыл бұрын
everyone seems to have forgotten about the red sox investigation which will be concluded next week lol
@dominicdannible4245
@dominicdannible4245 4 жыл бұрын
They all got bonuses based off of the WS. Revoke that $$$.
@davidcomeau6308
@davidcomeau6308 4 жыл бұрын
I think taking the title away and Altuve mvps would be acceptable.
@Kramer677
@Kramer677 4 жыл бұрын
David Comeau That works
@justomolet6521
@justomolet6521 4 жыл бұрын
And give the MVP to judge
@hunterfelker1734
@hunterfelker1734 4 жыл бұрын
@The Irish Italian That's an idiotic arguement. You could vacate the WS title and Altuves MVP without having to change/eliminate anyone's stats. No one cares about the postseason stats, fans and players just want to see proper punishment handed down (vacate title and individual awards from Astro players)
@jameslisle7775
@jameslisle7775 4 жыл бұрын
David Comeau Judge deserved the MVP in the first place. He led in almost every offensive category.
@ooSyzygy
@ooSyzygy 4 жыл бұрын
@The Irish Italian who the fuck cares about that. Who won is what matters.
@ashagreen4373
@ashagreen4373 4 жыл бұрын
No astros player from 2017 to 2019 should ever be considered to the hall of fame
@dylansousa5571
@dylansousa5571 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@kevwallace6628
@kevwallace6628 4 жыл бұрын
Stanton... SPIT IT OUT ALREADY
@KD-de1iw
@KD-de1iw 4 жыл бұрын
Jose Altuve went to a tattoo parlor over the weekend to get that "Mel" tattoo to corroborate Correa's story
@habs4life41
@habs4life41 4 жыл бұрын
Only time Dodgers and yankee fans come together is the past few months
@joenelsaracho4836
@joenelsaracho4836 4 жыл бұрын
@UCq-j76P2n9ncaUcd_v85Hug i just sign the petition im from the philippines and we love our yankees here
@kyle18269
@kyle18269 4 жыл бұрын
I hate the fucking Dodgers. But this offseason made me actually feel bad and like them.
@gothamjetskier776
@gothamjetskier776 4 жыл бұрын
Dude .. as a die hard yankee fan & a Native New yorker the Dodgers are in our blood because of the Brooklyn connection Sir. You couldn't understand I guess.
@MannyDelReal
@MannyDelReal 4 жыл бұрын
Gotham Jetskier were u alive during the brooklyn dodgers?
@deweyoxburger2963
@deweyoxburger2963 4 жыл бұрын
I'm( Dodger fan) married to one (Yankee fan) she appreciates great baseball and has great taste in men as well.....LOL
@neugey
@neugey 4 жыл бұрын
Me - "Alexa, who won the 2017 World Series?" Alexa - "The 2017 World Series was vacated based on a Houston Astros cheating scandal." #MoreThanAPieceOfMetal
@Frankieefootballmundial
@Frankieefootballmundial 4 жыл бұрын
Mike N ask Siri that question as well
@tysonpotter3205
@tysonpotter3205 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha Dodgers choked and Astros won at their home.
@chaseclark238
@chaseclark238 3 жыл бұрын
Tyson Potter hahaha the Dodgers beat the Astros in Houston WHILE THEY WERE CHEATING. Gtfoh with that pathetic ass shit
@chaseclark238
@chaseclark238 3 жыл бұрын
The Irish Italian hmm, about the same as the Astros...except the Astros were cheating so they don’t deserve a title
@aztlanmora
@aztlanmora 4 жыл бұрын
It's so simple. I own a company in Ca and this is what I would have done if the union said grant them immunity: 1. No immunity if they dont cooperate and I will ban the team for three years. 2. Remove the title 3. Remove the trophy 4. Remove the awards 5. Remove the banner 6. Remove the rings The players will not be banned but let's see how the owner will handle this.
@ooSyzygy
@ooSyzygy 4 жыл бұрын
The owner should be forced to sell the team. But otherwise I agree.
@TheNikki284
@TheNikki284 4 жыл бұрын
I like the way you think. I'm glad you own a company. Also, are you dressed like Sonny Crockett in your avatar? Please say yes.😎👍🏻
@jvjustvibes9103
@jvjustvibes9103 3 жыл бұрын
What does you owning a company have to do with this?
@israeltrevino5368
@israeltrevino5368 4 жыл бұрын
Sell the team out of Houston, ban players involved, fire the commissioner, strip title. I'll be happy with any of those options.
@shimonfrankel2727
@shimonfrankel2727 4 жыл бұрын
All of them
@ooSyzygy
@ooSyzygy 4 жыл бұрын
Sell the team and strip the title. 100%. Donald Sterling was forced to sell his team so same thing can apply here.
@israeltrevino5368
@israeltrevino5368 4 жыл бұрын
@Daxtyn Cornelius thx bud
@BootyStarfish
@BootyStarfish 4 жыл бұрын
They gotta stay in Houston though, no reason to punish the fans
@ooSyzygy
@ooSyzygy 4 жыл бұрын
@@BootyStarfish sure but just like the NBA made Donald Sterling sell the MLB should make the Astros sell.
@bubbala2983
@bubbala2983 4 жыл бұрын
Manfred needs to come out and say, I misjudged the feelings and attitude of the players and fans, and VACATE the title.
@steverenen6773
@steverenen6773 4 жыл бұрын
They'll have to vacate a lot of titles. All the steroid teams that won titles. That's cheating also
@bobheck7303
@bobheck7303 4 жыл бұрын
@@steverenen6773 FOOLISH WHEN ALL TEAMS USED PED'S
@blahblahblah6
@blahblahblah6 4 жыл бұрын
taking away the title would go a long way toward settling this, imo.
@rossdilworth3412
@rossdilworth3412 4 жыл бұрын
Why couldn't your amazing Yankees win anyway? Are you prepared to give away the title that a rod won? Beause he cheated.
@driftracerr34
@driftracerr34 4 жыл бұрын
Ross Dilworth This is something that’ll happen going forward. They’re not going to take the Yankees titles away because of A Roid. Plus what the Astros did was way worse. It’s an organizational problem. A Roid juicing was an A Roid problem.
@steverenen6773
@steverenen6773 4 жыл бұрын
@@driftracerr34 and Clemens? What about him. Cheating is cheating. They'll be a lot of lawsuits filed if you go down the road of taking titles away
@snerdterguson
@snerdterguson 2 жыл бұрын
And Ortiz? Are the reds ox giving back rings? And Canseco/McGwire? A's aren't giving rings back, and on and on and on... Just to be clear, I'm not agreeing with you that the Astros should get to keep their ring because there was other cheating g that occurred. I'm pointing g out that EVERY team in the league had guys on PEDs. So one team having some didn't give them an unfair advantage. Having a camera in the outfield to steal signs and then relaying them to the clubhouse and then banging on a trash can to signal what pitch was coming obviously gives the Astros an unfair advantage and one that their opponents had no recourse to counter it. Its apples and oranges.
@mangellotti57
@mangellotti57 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny Bench said something earlier. He kinda defended Jim Crane, but then he said: " Who was receiving those signals in the dugout? Who's the guys that were whistling? Let's identify them. ... If I knew what was coming, I'd hit .700."
@mikeneeley1284
@mikeneeley1284 4 жыл бұрын
Except you wouldn't hit that high. Just because you have an idea or know what is coming doesnt mean you can hit it. Yes, you have an advantage but in the end you dont know placement or where the ball will land and you still have to swing and make contact. And even with that just making contact guarantees nothing. I dont know why people cant see this or understand this. Yes, the Astros were wrong for breaking the rules yet there is not enough evidence to prove that is what got them the title. They lost in 2018 while still utilizing it. Yet here we are all talking about this like every time they knew they got on base or hit a homerun.
@MonetaryReformForum
@MonetaryReformForum 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Neeley nigga, STFU.
@bullymaguire4234
@bullymaguire4234 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikeneeley1284 dont be coming at everyone with all that logic! Makes too much sense for these people
@willywonka4690
@willywonka4690 4 жыл бұрын
@Realjayrome In no way is he right and you obviously don't know dick about baseball
@minisurfbanana
@minisurfbanana 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Neeley knowing what’s coming is like batting practice!!! Stfu every batters average would jump .400-.500
@rdyhrm
@rdyhrm 4 жыл бұрын
I think we are going to see Manfred resign over this soon. He couldn't have handled this any worse than he has.
@octoberlife
@octoberlife Жыл бұрын
Boy were you wrong
@mangellotti57
@mangellotti57 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Kay called Rob Manfred "flaccid"! Highlight of my week!
@michaellittlewood3032
@michaellittlewood3032 4 жыл бұрын
You should listen commissioner. Vacate. Take down their dirty banner for the love of the game.
@richardrichard9785
@richardrichard9785 4 жыл бұрын
Wait until the fans start openly booing Manfred whenever he's in public.
@peterbechard1900
@peterbechard1900 4 жыл бұрын
Unions are allowed discipline their members who damage the other members. So the union response is pure B S
@wwebb1
@wwebb1 4 жыл бұрын
Take the title. Only way Manfred will be able to remotely fix this
@DanJPall
@DanJPall 4 жыл бұрын
If a player was caught lying during the investigation, would punishment then be allowed? Would that terminate the immunity clause?
@okbroomer7636
@okbroomer7636 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@mfallen4277
@mfallen4277 4 жыл бұрын
There was no document for the investigation, at least ones that grant immunity for cooperation, that's what they're getting at. MLBPA wouldn't allow the league to even speak to the guys if there would be any punishment handed out to active players. There would have had to have been a clause in the current CBA stating that players must truthfully cooperate in investigations in order for there to have have been any kind of breech they could go after a lying player for. I would hope the next CBA has language in it that would allow for punishment in these kinds of cases going forward, but it looks like there will be absolutely nothing done to these players, even if the buzzers are proven for 2019, as it could be taken to court if they go after these guys. At least that's what I'm piecing together from everything that has come out today. Best we can hope for is stripping the title, and I don't even see Manfred doing that
@okbroomer7636
@okbroomer7636 4 жыл бұрын
@@mfallen4277 he doesnt have the balls to do what's necessary in stripping the title.
@MikeyReadman
@MikeyReadman 4 жыл бұрын
There was no "immunity" deal in the first place. The players are still lying about it so clearly this is just some bullshit Manfred is spinning for damage control.
@yarapah
@yarapah 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very good question. My guess is yes because that's what happened to A-Rod with his steroid scandal in 2013. A-Rod received a much bigger ban than everyone else in the Biogenesis scandal because he was, in the words of the Commissioner's office, "attempting to cover-up his violations of the Program by engaging in a course of conduct intended to obstruct and frustrate the Office of the Commissioner's investigation." So in other words, A-Rod was being uncooperative and maybe even untruthful during the investigation. If it was found that any of the Astros players were lying during the investigation, I'm sure that that would give Manfred the leeway to start suspending players. But that would mean that second investigation would have to occur.
@driver8M3
@driver8M3 4 жыл бұрын
"It's difficult to discipline players." Really? Every year I see players disciplined for cheating. And difficult doesn't mean impossible. It means you need a man to do it. And Manfred is certainly not a man.
@jonathancohoon
@jonathancohoon 4 жыл бұрын
The Astros players were granted immunity. So even if Manfried tried to suspended them...the MLBPA would file a grievance and would win and those players wouldn't be suspended.
@driver8M3
@driver8M3 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathancohoon Ummm...yes, I understand that. He was a moron for giving them immunity. It's laughable to say players can't be disciplined for cheating. Players are disciplined for cheating all the time. Corked bat? You're suspended. Vaseline on the ball? You're suspended. This is the biggest cheating scandal in the history of baseball...and the union and Commissioner's response (along with these dummy reporters) is that we can't suspend players for cheating.
@driver8M3
@driver8M3 4 жыл бұрын
@Pilot81 ummm.....we found out from an outside investigation from Rosenthal and Jomboy....before any immunity was offered.
@justanothergoy5900
@justanothergoy5900 4 жыл бұрын
driver8m3 ..welcome to the age of the beta male
@driver8M3
@driver8M3 4 жыл бұрын
@Pilot81 you don't actually understand evidence. It's not hearsay. And I guarantee you he could have gotten other players to come forward....if he had tried. But he's a nutless wonder so he didn't.
@Ty91681
@Ty91681 4 жыл бұрын
Stanton sounds like he's speaking in slow motion in the beginning
@imarriedabrkfsttaco3737
@imarriedabrkfsttaco3737 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta choose your words carefully. They're a fraternity so a good bit of tact is necessary. Doubt he wants to make the story about what he has said either.
@04breault
@04breault 4 жыл бұрын
All 162 Astros’ games should be on the road and they need to have a meet & greet with the fans before each game.
@callofdoody21
@callofdoody21 4 жыл бұрын
More like a meet and beat
@Frankieefootballmundial
@Frankieefootballmundial 4 жыл бұрын
OvO Wilkins this is like if the Astros don’t get the title strip fans will riot
@rstevens1836
@rstevens1836 2 жыл бұрын
2:32 Comical look by Kay like "tha fuck...?" 🤣
@jameslisle7775
@jameslisle7775 4 жыл бұрын
MLB need to “Take It Back”.
@terriblemvpljack9386
@terriblemvpljack9386 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone wants the title vacated
@michaelmiguelicutti2829
@michaelmiguelicutti2829 4 жыл бұрын
I don't
@wwebb1
@wwebb1 4 жыл бұрын
Russ H Imagine wanting a title that’s absolutely, undeniably tainted to the point of being in the utter trash can. You people are jokes lmao
@tsgpk9184
@tsgpk9184 4 жыл бұрын
Some people want the title to the Yankees, or the Dodgers. While others believe nobody should get it
@nickr3441
@nickr3441 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video game
@MikeyReadman
@MikeyReadman 4 жыл бұрын
Of course the POS Ass troll fans are good with it. Fkn scumbags!
@DamienAOrtiz
@DamienAOrtiz 4 жыл бұрын
The player's should start a patition to the commissioner to have the trophy taken away !!
@adrock1011
@adrock1011 4 жыл бұрын
Damien Ortiz disagree... keep the trophy, keep the rings, keep the money.... keep the lifetime ban... never play again
@BootyStarfish
@BootyStarfish 4 жыл бұрын
adrock1011 I like the head fake at the end there
@scottsmith1455
@scottsmith1455 4 жыл бұрын
Players should sign a petition and send it to the Commissioner. Have the players on record requesting the title be taken away! The message would be clear!
@jbrianb4618
@jbrianb4618 4 жыл бұрын
The commissioner should step down
@l.rongardner2150
@l.rongardner2150 4 жыл бұрын
Send Aaron Judge and Giancarlo Stanton into the Houston locker room, and they'll mete out "justice" the old-fashioned way.
@ramonquezada7992
@ramonquezada7992 4 жыл бұрын
L. Ron Gardner that a very very good idea💪💪 😂😂😂😂
@jacobbxd
@jacobbxd 4 жыл бұрын
Stanton sounding like he can barely breath.... 🧐
@Bighoss1101
@Bighoss1101 4 жыл бұрын
I just dont understand why people dislike videos like this, very transparent and a fair conversation from end to start.
@snickidy6947
@snickidy6947 4 жыл бұрын
didnt we just find out tho that the PA called out manfred for lying that player punishment wasnt allowed?
4 жыл бұрын
I read that too. But it seemed like semantics.
@GSP-76
@GSP-76 4 жыл бұрын
Vacating the title is the right thing to do but we have to remember that the Red Sox are just as guilty of this in 2018...MLB won't vacate back to back titles...it will hurt the league a lot and they're trying to save face.
@harveydodd8803
@harveydodd8803 4 жыл бұрын
It’s only fair to wait to see what comes out about the Sox cheating. Doesn’t sound as bad as what Houston was doing but who knows.
@GSP-76
@GSP-76 4 жыл бұрын
@@harveydodd8803 it's just as bad...they probably don't have evidence of it...but these cheaters did it in Houston and Boston.
@jonathanrecinos5894
@jonathanrecinos5894 4 жыл бұрын
@@GSP-76 you wish the Redsox cheated like what these asstros did lol. Redsox won it fair that year. Only reason why the Sox are mentioned is cuz of cora who was one of the master minds in the 2017 cheating scandals
@GSP-76
@GSP-76 4 жыл бұрын
@James Davis Yeah sure, keep telling yourself that bullshit.
@GSP-76
@GSP-76 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanrecinos5894 Yeah, I'm sure Cora turned over a new leaf in his life and found Jesus after being one of the masterminds in Houston...he helped Houston cheat their way to a championship and got offered the job in Boston because he was a part of a championship team. He took his "talents" to Boston. Your an infantile moron if you think it wasn't happening in Boston. Will they find evidence of it? I don't know. They also didn't find evidence of Altuve or any Astros players wearing buzzers. Ask people if they honestly think the Astros weren't wearing buzzers in 18/19.
@ChaseWalling
@ChaseWalling 4 жыл бұрын
Sox fan here. Love your videos and absolute hatred for the Astros. I live near Houston and the fans are hilarious. Looking forward to a good 2020. Hope the yanks stay healthy. God bless.
@joeriley5099
@joeriley5099 4 жыл бұрын
Chase Hey!....rock on you sensible son of a bitch
@cliffjones8809
@cliffjones8809 4 жыл бұрын
"Flacid punishment" Love it!!
@nsj2kx
@nsj2kx 4 жыл бұрын
Giancarlo Stanton speaking... **SNORE**
@ttsbobby71
@ttsbobby71 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they do vacate the title but we'll all have to wait so we can laugh 10 or 20 years down the road when none of these guys getting into the Hall of Fame
@andersonrodriguez8258
@andersonrodriguez8258 4 жыл бұрын
TTS bobby none of them are is gonna b so pleasurable seeing that
@almaroseflores2076
@almaroseflores2076 4 жыл бұрын
Rob Manfred needs to stripped the 2017 World Series title and take away the trophy and rings period.
@petepyeatt6909
@petepyeatt6909 3 ай бұрын
Yes, take the Astros title away, but while you’re at it, take away the Red Sox 2018 title, and the Dodgers 2017 and 2018 NL Pennants away as well, all three used The Baserunner Method, a form of Electronic Sign Stealing. The Yankees used this as well, but didn’t win anything, so you can’t take anything away from them.
@diegosanchez4909
@diegosanchez4909 4 жыл бұрын
I just want to say throughout this entire circus show that the Astros and commissioner have put up, Ive really enjoyed this channel and hearing all of your opinions. 👏🏼
@kzen7011
@kzen7011 4 жыл бұрын
There´s some fans banging on trash cans already to reminds them that they are not champions, they are CHEATERS!
@1KindKid
@1KindKid 4 жыл бұрын
Has Nolan Ryan been heard from?
@anthonyyoutubefan7567
@anthonyyoutubefan7567 4 жыл бұрын
A-HA! Yes, let's hear from him. BTW, does anyone know what David Cone's feeling is about this, now that all of this post-investigation stuff is coming out? I know he's expressed disappointment and frustration, but, how's he feel now, considering the temperature all around baseball has gone up?
@rodrigoledesma6323
@rodrigoledesma6323 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly can’t wait for a few years down the road, when the players start to finally open up and talk about what really happened
@rstevens1836
@rstevens1836 3 жыл бұрын
20:38 ED! KRANEPOOL!!!!!!!! 🤣
@watpho3451
@watpho3451 4 жыл бұрын
Change the title to the Michael and Don Show
@johnanthony2333
@johnanthony2333 4 жыл бұрын
Take away the title, make then turn in their rings...and since there is no title, the players are then forced to cough up the bonuses.
@fredlew781
@fredlew781 4 жыл бұрын
Take away the titles, trophies, and all. Replay the ‘17 Series b/t Yankees and Dodgers.
@MarkRosa
@MarkRosa 4 жыл бұрын
Don't take the banner away. Make them keep it and hang it upside down for as long as the franchise exists. They don't get to erase this; they have to live with it.
@dom12011
@dom12011 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a redsox fan , but I’m we were involved in 2018 the team deserves punishment , but I’m sure it wasn’t to the level of Houston . But if MLB wants to save the game they need to reopen the case. #firemanfred
@DLC32
@DLC32 4 жыл бұрын
So if the red soxs are caught and did cheat in 2018, would you vacate the title?
@dom12011
@dom12011 4 жыл бұрын
OneAndOnly Lokey if it is proven that , the act was that severe it’s fair
@joeywho534
@joeywho534 4 жыл бұрын
Gerrit Cole is in a weird spot with all this huh? I heard him say he knew absolutely nothing but we all know that’s not true.
@johngoedecke7707
@johngoedecke7707 4 жыл бұрын
He can make up for it by leading us to 3 straight championships.
@joeywho534
@joeywho534 4 жыл бұрын
I’d love that, I’m just saying I’d be a little confused if I was mike trout playing 5x the amount of games!
@rabbitsfoot8
@rabbitsfoot8 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I can blame the commissioner for not punishing them and here's why: He failed to use the power of public perception. All the commissioner had to do was tell the public what they did and that he wants to punish them but the players union wouldn't let him. Then he could have just sat back and watched the fireworks. I'm positive that the players union would have buckled not only from the public outcry but from it's own members....seriously when Mike Trout is talking bad about it.....
@irvingbarraza1975
@irvingbarraza1975 4 жыл бұрын
Players need to look at them selves (the MLBPA) they are working with rules already in place. Now they need to change the rules. Players need to be upset with ASTROS, PLAYERS ASSOCIATION & MANFRED.
@johnanthony9923
@johnanthony9923 4 жыл бұрын
Manfred ADMITTED there were conflicting reports about cheating in the post season. That means at least SOME players LIED (and are still lying if you listened to the Astros interviews). Therefore their immunity agreements should be VOIDED!
@johnpestano22
@johnpestano22 4 жыл бұрын
i will take a line from Scarface bury those cockroaches.
@deweyoxburger2963
@deweyoxburger2963 4 жыл бұрын
@Grande1124 Chico...
@ascensionenergy
@ascensionenergy 4 жыл бұрын
We could have trash can day when the Asstros show up or Altuve Buzzer day.
@2011blueman
@2011blueman 4 жыл бұрын
You don't know why the players are mad at the Commissioner? There was absolutely no need to talk to the players and give them immunity to prove that they cheated in 2017.
@treetree117
@treetree117 4 жыл бұрын
Take away the title and the rings!!!
@flickmybic7174
@flickmybic7174 4 жыл бұрын
Heres what Giancarlo has to say: Giancarlo: ummmmmm
@chrism.4116
@chrism.4116 4 жыл бұрын
Lol!!!
@ScanManDaMurka
@ScanManDaMurka 4 жыл бұрын
He is so aggravating to listen to. Dude sounds dumb as shit. Spent 3 Full minutes saying a sentence and a half.
@nickr3441
@nickr3441 4 жыл бұрын
He can't even play the game. He shouldn't even be talking
@flickmybic7174
@flickmybic7174 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. While Judge is certainly entitled to his opinion, Stanton shouldn't be talking to media... he should be in the cage.
@nickr3441
@nickr3441 4 жыл бұрын
@@flickmybic7174 or a hospital bed.
@insertcolorfulmetaphor8520
@insertcolorfulmetaphor8520 4 жыл бұрын
Protecting 3% of their brethren, much to the chagrine of the other 97%? Smh
@ChowDownDetroit
@ChowDownDetroit 4 жыл бұрын
As a big fan of MLB, I would be satisfied with Manfred vacating the 2017 title.
@raulrivera9112
@raulrivera9112 4 жыл бұрын
Players should boycott the season,until something goes down....
@keisukeyoshida2839
@keisukeyoshida2839 4 жыл бұрын
ROR 420 yes or the fans
@mocksauce9687
@mocksauce9687 4 жыл бұрын
ROR 420 hell no... the players want to play and win the title
@josephbellotti1007
@josephbellotti1007 4 жыл бұрын
Same old story every day just strip them of the trophy
@JustMeELC
@JustMeELC 4 жыл бұрын
Smh... Being punished more means taking the title & that's 100% on Manfred! Still ZERO reason for not having already vacated the title! That is punishing the players & CAN & MUST be done! The sooner the better or this just gets uglier!
@gothamjetskier776
@gothamjetskier776 4 жыл бұрын
The MLBPA won’t allow Manfred to punish them but Manfred could 1- Vacate the WS Title, 2-Remove the worlds series banner from Houston, 3- Vacate Altuve’s MVP award for he is clearly the biggest liar / cheater, 4- Have the players return all of the bonuses earned for advancing in the playoff and the extra money they earned for illegally winning the WS, 5- Have the player remove and return there WS rings, etc. The commish could do any of those.
@josedominguez1253
@josedominguez1253 4 жыл бұрын
Your job is to protect cheaters mlb is a joke 🤣
@Kevinn714
@Kevinn714 4 жыл бұрын
After This Scandal In 2020 ... 2021 Pete Rose Better Be In The Hall of Fame!!!!!
@kzen7011
@kzen7011 4 жыл бұрын
And PEDs players like Bonds,Clemens,Sosa,McGuire,A-Rod,M.Ramirez,etc Also Joe Jackson from the The Black Sox Scandal
@marknoahsotelo316
@marknoahsotelo316 4 жыл бұрын
Essentially this is what Clark said: “We’re going to protect the rights of players who cheat in this game. “ That’s a hell of a message to send the fans , he might as well just come out in a press conference given everybody the middle finger and walked away.
@johnsnowman1751
@johnsnowman1751 4 жыл бұрын
all teams stars should boycott the all star game unless title is taken away
@ItzTruthHurts
@ItzTruthHurts 4 жыл бұрын
What drugs is Michael Kay on? Looking at screens and stealing signs is gamesmanship? Huh?
@ooSyzygy
@ooSyzygy 4 жыл бұрын
He's saying to take electronics out of the game. You misunderstood. He said naturally picking up the signs on the regular TV feed then getting a man on second that's able to see the sign and knows what look for then can rely it to the batter quick enough. That's not as bad as setting up a seperate camera and using computer algorithms and a garbage can to rely messages on pitches in real time. Or potentially the use of buzzers.
@ItzTruthHurts
@ItzTruthHurts 4 жыл бұрын
Stephen C I don’t know if you lack reading comprehension, if you didn’t watch the video or just lack information. The reports are that the Red Sox were stealing signs from the replay room. Michael Kay said that’s not cheating because you need a runner on 2nd to take advantage of it. Tell me, what part did I misunderstand...?
@ooSyzygy
@ooSyzygy 4 жыл бұрын
@@ItzTruthHurts because that's part of the game... The replay room isn't a secret. He quite clearly said "if you want to stop cheating you need to take electronics out of the club house" The camera the Houston Astros set up is 100% against the rules (hence why they took it down after every game) then they were relying to the batter with a noise rather than the traditional method of having a man on second. There's a still a human element there rather than using a computer algorithm, illegal camera, and drumming.
@ooSyzygy
@ooSyzygy 4 жыл бұрын
@@ItzTruthHurts "I Don't knOW iF yOU lack rEaDInG cOmPreHeNSioN" you're the only idiot in this thread who can't read/listen
@ItzTruthHurts
@ItzTruthHurts 4 жыл бұрын
Stephen C It’s part of the game to steal sign from the replay room? I need your dealers number.
@VirtualVirtuoso101
@VirtualVirtuoso101 4 жыл бұрын
17:13 Yankees fan here. Strip them both, suspend a lot of people.
@steverenen6773
@steverenen6773 4 жыл бұрын
after he strips the Yankees for 99 and 2000 and the Giants with Bonds
@VirtualVirtuoso101
@VirtualVirtuoso101 4 жыл бұрын
Scott Morey Giants lost to the Angels, though sure, you could take the pennant. But they were individual players making their own choices, not team-wide systemic cheating like the Astros and potentially Red Sox had. Stop trying to deflect from the Astros. Any player could’ve been using steroids and it wouldn’t help them specifically at home or on the road. What the Astros did was specific to them. Obviously a random comment exchange on KZbin isn’t going to change either of our minds, so have a nice day :)
@bobheck7303
@bobheck7303 4 жыл бұрын
@@steverenen6773 LITTLE SCOTTY 1ST GRADER!
@steverenen6773
@steverenen6773 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobheck7303 poor Bobby the pouter. If he doesn't get his way he calls names waaaaaa. They're keeping the title,they're world series champs and they cheated just like the steroid using YANKEES. Deal with it
@bobheck7303
@bobheck7303 4 жыл бұрын
@@steverenen6773 LITTLE GAY BOY TAINTED TROPHY SUCKER! DO YOUR HOMEWORK FLUNKY!
@fservo
@fservo 4 жыл бұрын
Great question at the end... Who is the baseball legend, playing or not, who is so respected, that everybody would listen to? I don't know if baseball has that kind of person... the maybes are Cal Ripkin, Derek Jeter, Hank Aaron, Mike Trout, etc.
@mrt094
@mrt094 4 жыл бұрын
It would be fair for the Rodsox to get punished harder because they were the ones who were directly warned previously.
@Tony-wm9ox
@Tony-wm9ox 4 жыл бұрын
Stanton got hurt on this interview
@GoatofJersey
@GoatofJersey 4 жыл бұрын
Chepe T 😂😂😂😂 that was good!!!
@GoatofJersey
@GoatofJersey 4 жыл бұрын
Vacate the title
@whywelovefilm7079
@whywelovefilm7079 4 жыл бұрын
I was watching ESPN yesterday morning and Stephen A. Smith gave the PERFECT answer to what the Players should do this upcoming Season to the Astros players. He said Pitchers shouldn't throw at them and nobody should slid dirty into 2nd base or collide with the Catcher. Manfred already said whoever does something like that will be pushed without warning. So instead of throwing at them and stuff like that, every team should come to the ballpark and not even acknowledge them. Don't shake their hands or chat with them before the game like players always do. Do converse with them whenever one of them gets on base, the Manager hands the lineup card to the Umpire from his Dugout because he doesn't want to shake hands with anyone on the Astros, and the players should all turn their back when it's time for the National Anthem. No one said players need to lineup along the 1st and 3rd base lines. Let the Astros line up for the National Anthem and then the other team lines up so they're facing the american Flag, but their backs are completely towards the Astros. Just don't even acknowledge them. They're not worth the time. THAT's how you treat the Astros this year without constantly getting ejected, fined and suspended from Regular Season games...
@coolvids8808
@coolvids8808 4 жыл бұрын
Willie, Mickey, and the Duke are in disbelief!
@damiangrzywacz6739
@damiangrzywacz6739 4 жыл бұрын
Agree. It’s like having the playbook.
@raulgongora5288
@raulgongora5288 4 жыл бұрын
I am agree. With you Mike players involve on astros scandal disciplinary suspension case closed
@LiveAventura
@LiveAventura 4 жыл бұрын
Red Sox ain’t do shit compared to what Houston did. And this is coming from a Yankees fan
@TheMad31683
@TheMad31683 4 жыл бұрын
16:18 sound of a bug flying by lol
@Cluter
@Cluter 4 жыл бұрын
Please... who ever uploads these... give the volume a little kick in the butt. Every Michael Kay video I watch is SO QUIET that I need to turn everything else way down just to hear.
@patrickfoley3011
@patrickfoley3011 3 жыл бұрын
when conforto said "its tough with all of the things that's going on" he had no idea
@garyspaziani1699
@garyspaziani1699 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree...if the title is taken away I think the players would move on much quicker, I find myself doing the same thing as a Fan, the more I hear about it, the anger stays, Manfred did a good job, the punishments were by the rules, Let’s just kick their Ass on the field!!
@edrivera2454
@edrivera2454 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Cora is the reason why MLB won't strip the Astros. It sets a precedent and if they find Cora and the Red Sox did something similar, then they have to strip two titles and MLB doesn't want that.
@snerdterguson
@snerdterguson 2 жыл бұрын
2 years later and I stand by what I said at the time. The penalty to the team should have been so severe that competing for the next decade should be near impossibke. They should have been banned as a team from post season play for 5 years (ggod luck attracting free agents to a team that isnt allowed in the post season) and had every single draft pick taken for the next 5 years and should have been banned from international FA signings for the next 5 years. Plus a massive fine. Obviously all awards or trophies from that season should have been taken away. Make the punishment so severe that no team would even dream of trying something like this going forward. And before anyone asks, yes, I would feel that should be the Yankees, who I've rooted for since 1987, punishment if they did What Houston did.
@aa697
@aa697 4 жыл бұрын
Read The Post and Courier there is an article quoting Dave Trembley.
@hou5eheadjason
@hou5eheadjason 4 жыл бұрын
I think 2017 should be a blank year in the books never forget
@euroyank860
@euroyank860 4 жыл бұрын
If this is not taken care of, it will leave a stain on our fantastic sport for ever at the expense to players and fans. This whole issue can only be resolved by action up to the scale of the fraude, thus taking the title away from the Astro's. Talking about it doesn't help anybody and hurts us all.
@krakenmetzger
@krakenmetzger 4 жыл бұрын
Manfred is spineless. Tell them they're all getting lifetime bans. If they talk, maybe he'll negotiate it down to 5 year suspensions
@greatstate58
@greatstate58 4 жыл бұрын
The strength of the union is wayyy more important than stopping stupid cheating.
@JustinGreene0224
@JustinGreene0224 4 жыл бұрын
Instead of taking electronics out of the game...you could take signs out. Give the pitcher and catcher two-way mics and be done with it.
@blockthiscrap
@blockthiscrap 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why Kay is so confused about the anger towards Manfred. He was in charge of an investigation that found that the team actually cheated in 2017, but he chose NOT to levy any substantial penalty for it. He could've taken away the championship but chose not to. He could've told the players to return their rings, but chose not to. There are so many ways he could've penalized the team without directly going after the players. What prevents other teams from doing this in the future now that he has set the precedent for how to punish teams for sign stealing going forward.
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