Yet another Kia EV6 ICCU recall is incoming (SC327) & probably also to Ioniq 5 & Genesis GV60 also

[@samteknic]

Yes I know we’re early adopters, but I’m so effing fed up with visiting the dealer for recalls, updates, new ICCU unit, new battery and so on.

[@geraldh.8047]

When will they FINALLY learn that updates like this should be done OTA or OT-USB? What a hassle and what a waste of money paying the dealerships.

[@evodessey]

I totally agree.

[@michaelballdrums]

Thanks for the update, Brian. Very helpful.

[@grahamfirman3366]

My EV6 ICCU was replaced in the summer (I had the warning message and the car was off the road for 5 weeks waiting for the part). On return the car is fine, but AC charging at home trips the circuit breaker (between the charger and the consumer unit) after charging anything up to about an hour. However if I restrict the charger to 20 amps (and not 30 amps), it charges ok. The car has been back and they can find nothing wrong. Now waiting for my charger to be checked. It would be quite a coincidence that the charger develops fault at exactly the same time as the ICCU was replaced!

[@jagtazman]

I have same issue had to reduce my amps, been told it's the fuse in the fix box but not had it checked yet. I use hyper volt and an EV engineer who sorts the work chargers out that told me this told, Since I dropped amps it's been fine

[@weymouthjohn]

Thanks Brian. Did this summer's recall but my ICCU failed this week....not able to AC charge but OK on DC so far. New ICCU on order. What a pain! Interestingly, there were no warnings at all. The problem came to light when the house and Wallbox circuit breakers tripped.

[@evodessey]

Yes, that's quite common as a symptom of ICCU failure. Some also go whilst driving and the fuse goes pop. No rhyme or reason to it.

[@SteveM1966]

@@evodessey thanks for this, in the US Midwest, 23’ Ioniq 5 SEL AWD. Everything‘s been good except for the USB data port for CarPlay is being replaced as I type. It seems to have a short in it or something. I am considering selling it to get what I can due to the depreciation rate, and getting a Prius. Also tired of going in for recalls. Makes me wonder how long this car will last!?

[@ibeam68]

My car is 2 years old and never had an issue until 2 weeks ago. Fuse popped, the 2 famous messages and got it towed to the dealer; they replaced the ICCU and the fuse. Recalls were done back in June. Now waiting for the new software update. A bit frustrating. 12v battery still good.

[@evodessey]

Sorry to hear that. Mine has survived 3 years on the same ICCU. Many other things have been changed under warranty though.

[@adamhardy8690]

Hi, can I ask if you used the V2L a lot? My 12V went, we had the battery replaced after a lot of waiting and messing about and 2 months later I get those messages and car restricts to 30mph. Limped to the dealer and now waiting a response. I ask as I do use the V2L regularly but in any case that should not be a reason for the issues.

[@ibeam68]

@adamhardy8690 last time I used it was a year ago but I don't think it's the cause of the issue.

[@evodessey]

We use the V2L daily for powering a socket in our living room and in Winter upstairs socket for Electric Blanket,it's also unplugged before we go to bed. No I'll effects also keeps 12v topped up.Been doing that for 2 years.

[@encldesign]

After the iccu replaced, the car so far so good and stay in. normal?

[@paullarkin6953]

The recalls have served to try and prevent the most dangerous issues related to iccu failure (line complete brake failure when the brake booster on 12v fails) not actually prevent failures.

[@stevecoombs3271]

Just been in and had 12v battery replaced, not holding charge and not covered under warranty as the car is nearly 3 years old, is this related to ICCU? Would expect a 12v battery to last longer than 3 years! Also had a service which included SOS battery replacement and the dealership managed to damage a connection, so some of the ambient lightning is not working, part has to come from Korea!

[@evodessey]

The SOS battery is embedded in the Infotainment/Drivers cluster and is a pain to take to bits apparently. The way the EV’s in general and the EV6 charge their 12v battery is part of the reason for the short life on 12v battery. On my wife’s Renault Zoe they recommend changing every 3 years. My first EV6 one only lasted 18 months. You’ve done well out of it. On Ice Cars i rarely changed 12v battery. Last Ford Focus was still good at 5 years when i traded it in for an e-Niro i 2020.

[@johnrostron2801]

Just had something similar on my GV60 which has already been in for the earlier ICCU recall. Initially an Amber warning asking me to Check EV Electrics, followed around half a mile later by a similar Red warning, but advising I park up (or something similar). The car is currently on my drive awaiting the breakdown service, but not good for a £50K plus car that is only 22 months old.

[@evodessey]

Sorry to hear that, wish they would just roll out a fixed re-designed one and stop all messing with software updates that seem to do very little

[@johnrostron2801]

@@evodessey The AA turned up yesterday and confirmed an ICCU failure; the car has been taken away for repair some 250 miles away (because it's a Genesis)!

[@Martin36544]

I have another issue I know will eventually get recalled. When on I-pedal mode and slowing down to make a right turn the inside front wheel locks, judders and unless you have your wits about you… Crash! My stirring rack is also really creaky under full turn.

[@evodessey]

Not seen that before

[@Gemjack]

Thanks Brian

[@Fozzie-Bear]

Any further updates, it the recall official yet. Thanks

[@evodessey]

@Fozzie-Bear if you are in USA you can book on with your dealer. I saw a scan of some dealer paperwork on Facebook yesterday proving that someone had it installed. It is also available for Hyundai vehicles if you put your vin into the Hyundai website. Don't know why still no updates on NHTSA though. It is official

[@Fozzie-Bear]

@evodessey Thanks. I am in Australia actually. And I have an ioniq 5, it failed on the 10th August 15 weeks ago. It had an ICCU issue, and it's still not repaired. Mine occurred about 3 weeks after the previous recall. So now, I am looking to see where else, other then usa and canada have this latest recall. ICCU issue is a nightmare. Thanks again for writing back. Good work on your videos. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@gordonshirreffs8127]

Hi Brian, I like to know if you or any other subscribers have come across this issue, when starting to drive the EV6 I first deactivate valet mode get to destination reactivate valet mode. All is well except on my iphone I get numerous notifications, between that start and finish event, every minute with quote "your vehicle has violated the valet mode settings". I can only assume I may enabled some sort of warning process but don't know what it is. Regards G

[@evodessey]

All of that is in the Geo ring fencing settings in Kia Connect App,you can turn it off on the home button scroll down to alert services,make sure all options are turned off.

[@gordonshirreffs8127]

@@evodessey Thanks, have looked at alert services, the only option enabled is Valet, I will turn this off to see what happens.

[@peterwright837]

I’ve been trying to find out if this recall still applies if you already had your ICCU replaced under the previous one.

[@evodessey]

It all depends when you had yours replaced. You can tell yourself if you have Carscanner and an OBD adapter. When did you have it changed?

[@peterwright837]

@ it failed around the end of June during the cyberattack, and was in the shop for 7.5 weeks. So the ICCU was replaced in early August.

[@evodessey]

The NHTSA recall chronology document has very little detail between May & November when the new patch was released. static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024/RMISC-24V867-4581.pdf So it’s difficult to tell if your new one had the patch or not. You could probably check by your VIN to be sure. You will also get recall notification letter i would guess

[@frankshort5158]

The replaced unit i have in my EV6 has just become faulty. It happened last Wednesday. The unit suddenly blew the main fuse in the house. DC charging is fine. I brought it to my Kia garage and they confirmed the problem and ordered another. It is driving as normal. I haven't had any problem with the 12 V battery as of yet. But will that be an issue for me in the coming days?

[@evodessey]

There seem to be 2 different kinds of fault with the ICCU, both are common,ICCU 12v DC-DC convertible fails and takes fuse with it that can bring the car to a halt very quickly,the 2nd fault is when AC charging stops working but DC works fine and the 12v DC-DC converter continues to work and the car can be driven.

[@evodessey]

So based on my experience of other drivers in my video comments who had the AC charging fail you should be able to continue to drive it. ICCU still needs to be changed ASAP though.

[@frankshort5158]

@@evodessey Thank you. Mine seems to be the latter. Of course it happens just as I was thinking of selling.

[@evodessey]

@frankshort5158 it's like the car knows 😆

[@frankshort5158]

@@evodessey It's actually a cas eof bad luck coming in threes. On Tuesday the central heating timer stopped working, on Wednesday the car blew the fuses in the house and on Thursday the turbo in my VW camper started to give trouble. They are all in kahoots!

[@davidmorris4948]

Thanks for the information hopefully going to get mine tomorrow. The only problem is after the last update my level two charging is still slow after about 10 to 15 minutes it overheats the port and reduces speed to about 7.2 kW from 11 kW. I have constantly been on the phone with Kia USA and told them ever since the update, it has always slowed down and I never get the full 11 kW that I’m supposed to get. The crazy thing is all the dealerships around me. Do not have a level 2 48 amp EV charger to get the correct test data. They keep telling me oh it’s good to go but their charger only goes up to 40 A so they can never record the correct data that they need to in order to send it to Kia I’ve been fighting with them to get the correct charger so they can record the correct data. I can’t believe they still don’t have this shit figured out.

[@evodessey]

The VCMS (Vehicle Charging Management System ) module in the car actually controls the AC charging and has had several upgrades to address the port overheating on North American models. In the UK on 220 volts 3 phase i’ve tested 11kW charging extensively and have never had it de-rate charging speed. This was also after the last ICCU upgrade. So i think it’s most likely the VCMS causing this not the ICCU update.

[@evodessey]

Actually I’ve just found out that the updates to ICCU software can affect AC charging speed you are right and i was wrong. This post from EVTechnician on EVforums gives the answer. “ The most recent firmware update for ICCU employs a dynamic current profile. In the event of the charging port overheating, the current will be reduced and gradually increased again while monitoring the charging port temperature sensor. If the temperature remains below the threshold, the system will revert to the maximum current supported by the EVSE or the vehicle. However, if it is unable to provide the maximum current set by the EVSE, it will adjust to a level that prevents overheating of the charging port. Prior to this update, the charging session would be terminated if the charging port exceeded the temperature threshold” So it’s not as straight forward as I’d thought. www.kiaevforums.com/threads/a-different-iccu-failure.13023/?post_id=171270#post-171270

[@keithw7777]

Can. one assume that all these recalls may apply to EV3's

[@evodessey]

EV3 has a completely different ICCU compared to EV6,Ioniq5,6 & GV60. I know this for a fact after I ran Car Scanner OBD last Monday when I did my test drive.

[@doncoombez]

Mine died over two weeks ago after an AC charge, still waiting for the replacement part with no news at all from Kia as to when it will be fixed (it had the previous recall done). Driving back it suddenly went into limp and then died, nothing worked not even the hazzards - police had to recover as light was fading. I have had issues with carplay never working consistently, dropping, playing no sound and the whole touch screen being slooow (my ipace was better). To Kia's credit they have given me a replacement Niro for the duration. - I was driving the Niro when it was 2 deg C the other day and the heating system just started blowing cold air only - apparently a common fault. Then there is the touch screen in the Niro, oh boy it's, soooo slow, slower than the EV6 but at least the carplay works. My confidence in Kia is at all time low

[@evodessey]

Sorry to hear this. Fingers crossed for a quick fix.

[@portiazwicker3986]

Also Ioniq 6

[@evodessey]

I found out that earlier today. Will cover in my Kia Electric News episode on Sunday.

[@The_Observer72]

ICCU is boring 🤣

[@evodessey]

Yup we’re all f*ing bored to death with this bollox now. Been going on far too long.😂