You are superior to NO ONE! (Star Trek: Voyager)

Star Trek: Voyager "The Killing Game" 1 & 2
Hirogen from Delta Quadrant clashes with holographic World War II Nazi
S4.E18
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[@robertc8110]

These Nazi themed episodes give the production companies an opportunity to use the vast amount of Nazi themed props in storage.

[@Tounushi]

That's how it's been since the start of the franchise. Nazis, Romans, cowboys, medieval europe, gangsters, Greece, etc. etc. etc. They just raided the Paramount warehouses. Did DS9 or TNG have a nazi episode, btw?

[@matthew8153]

@@Tounushi TNG did but DS9 did not.

[@rootin222]

Do you even have the retro TV camera real that’s how you know they put an extra effort in that episode to make it feel retro

[@Avenger85438]

@@Tounushi No, but both did have Mobsters.

[@Soarin-Ancient]

@@Tounushi not directly. They showed Doctor Bashir and Chief O'Brien coming out of a holodeck dressed in a WW2 RAF uniform and LARPING as if they were pilots in the Battle of Britain

[@charliecharliewhiskey9403]

If it weren't for the alien, this scene could easily be plucked straight out of any WW2 drama. There's literally nothing Star Trekky about this scene, except that there is an alien in it. And that is remarkable to me.

[@Krackonis]

You could picture many in the Trump admin having this same convo...

[@shanetoumey2835]

Two aliens.

[@Ragitsu]

@@Krackonis A little hint: if someone truly is superior, they don't need to advertise and/or defend their (purported) superiority. A superior individual would be so unquestionably better that no one would question their supreme status.

[@johnwong5317]

@@Krackonis Quite frankly, Big Medias with censorship is a much bigger problem than Trump. You have a bunch of young people acting like Red Guards under Mao. If you don't know what I mean, read Red Guards where they cut off tongue or break jaws of people who they couldn't win argument over.

[@johnwong5317]

@@Krackonis And just like that, YT censorship. Proven my points even more.

[@AndresRamirez-fi5uw]

"Never fail to respect their desires to put you and your buddies into an early grave. IS THAT CLEAR!?" -John Basilone in The Pacific

[@arthurpiantadosi840]

He sounds like a old Kilrathi. . .

[@Ramzi1944]

John Basilone was based af And also hbo's The Pacific was the GOAT I remember when I first watched it back in 2013, the golden days...

[@JudgementComesForAll]

Just so you all know, that guy playing the Nazi is the SAME actor "J. Paul Boehmer " who would later play 'One,' the 29th-Century Borg Drone who helped defend Voyager from the Borg.

[@MrJabba888]

Huh, for years until literally right now, I'd always thought that was David Hyde Pierce... 👀

[@johnjon1823]

I always knew Jim Boeheim was an alien. Resistance is futile. Usually in March. But not always. Even aliens get old, look at Biden, if he's not a reptile I don't know what he is. Personally I think Musk is the Borg daddy. Janeway for formerly as saint. Not many know.

[@kevinmcfalls945]

He also played Mestral, the Vulcan who stayed behind on Earth in 1957 after crash landing with T'Mir, T'Pol's great grandmother. Enterprise: Carbon Creek.

[@Arduex2020]

Mind blown...I see it now...I was today years old

[@jasonbourneistreadstone]

He was also in ST: Enterprise, again playing a Nazi soldier, transporting Captain Archer as a prisoner. And in DS9, "Tacking into the Wind" when Legate Damar, Odo, and Kira captured a Dominion warship to gain access to the Breen weapon technology for Starfleet to analyze and hopefully come up with a defense against their energy-dampening weapon.

[@seriascannain6675]

I wonder if the Hirogen continued to use any Nazi emblems or symbols after they left Voyager! Janeway gave the Hirogen the Holographic technology to simulate hunts, not get themselves killed.

[@STEJTHEGREATEST]

I can see it now... Delta quadrant worlds under the nazi flag in the late 24th century. Imagine if in the 25th century, nazi starships come to the alpha quadrant from the delta quadrant to wage war on Starfleet!!!!

[@eyebrid]

No, the Hirogen used WWII only because of the historical significance of the war as a hunt, and it's clear in this video the Hirogen had disdain for Nazi ideology and understood they were psychologically compromised. The Hirogen only value the hunt as a test of strength and cunning, and later learned that pursuing that tradition didn't require an unwilling species thanks to holoemitters with the safety parameters off, which is a step towards being a part of the Federation, even though we didn't see that happen yet.

[@Doomsquad99]

The hunt would be worthless without the risk

[@seriascannain6675]

@@Doomsquad99 That is why they refused the Doctor to allow the Hirogen to engage the safety protocols on the holodecks! The Doctor pleaded with them so as to ensure the safety of his crew as well as the Hirogen, the Hirogen replied it would also eliminate the risk! I may be analogous to how Geordi got frustrated with Data solving the case so quickly while playing Sherlock Holmes!

[@frenzalrhomb6919]

@@Doomsquad99 Well that depends entirely on what it is that you're hunting, doesn't it? I mean if you're hunting duck's for example, well there's not going to be any real "risk" in that, but it does take some "cunning"

[@stingerjohnny9951]

Funny thing is the Nazi’s fell because they didn’t learn this lesson. Their pompous pretensions of superiority left them blind to the fact that all humans are cunning, powerful, adaptable, and ruthless, especially when threatened. The moment you think you are perfect is the moment you stop improving. The moment you stop improving is the moment you lose.

[@stingerjohnny9951]

@@salzigerfranz1291 I’ll do as you ask with one small addition: “Humans all have the same potential to be as powerful, ruthless, and adaptable to the same level.” And having pasty skin doesn’t enhance that.

[@stingerjohnny9951]

@@salzigerfranz1291 sounds to me like eugenics nonsense. A more pronounced brow does not make someone lower in intelligence. Eugenics, phrenology, the “Aryan thruth,” it’s all racist, ableist, pseudoscience bullshit.

[@stingerjohnny9951]

@@salzigerfranz1291 that’s a matter of education opportunities, not genetics. Africans have been oppressed by Europeans for blood gems for centuries. The entire concept of race based IQ is horse shit made up by Europeans as an excuse for mistreatment of other cultures and a justification for imperialism. There are black People who have invented, revolutionized, and shown incredible intelligence. Not because of genetic Mumbo Jumbo, but because they had the opportunity and the drive, like any human with such blessings. Besides which, if we go by your logic, Japan blows most European countries out of the fucking water in terms of “IQ.” Again, not because of genetics, but because a kid there is considered persona non grata if their scores aren’t perfect. Shit like what you espouse only works if you ignore all external factors that influence a person, their development, and their educational endeavors.

[@GnosticAtheist]

Even more comical, we can imagine that they where right and they actually where superior genetically. That would still be meaningless, because they waged war against everyone. War is a numbers game, and survival is of the fittest, not the strongest. For humans, the fittest is the sum of its parts. The genetic value of a nation is practically irrelevant against the entire world. As a result, their "superiority" was inferior, as it lead to many of them being selected out of genepool. This is what people like this do not understand. Superior genetics is whatever works and reproduces, nothing else.

[@thenotoriousgryyn342]

Very True

[@Ragitsu]

A little hint: if someone truly is superior, they don't need to advertise and/or defend their (purported) superiority. A superior individual would be so unquestionably better that no one would question their supreme status.

[@All2Meme]

"Any man who has to say, 'I am the king' is no king at all."

[@Ragitsu]

@@All2Meme The wisdom of a ruthless man shuts down supremacists of all stripes.

[@TheBigExclusive]

Watching this old school recording really takes me back. It's retro and fun.

[@danielclawson2099]

One racist reminding another racist that axioms of superiority are not necessarily true.

[@Ragitsu]

Are the Hirogen technically racist?

[@danielclawson2099]

@@Ragitsu I thought the Hirogens believed themselves superior to all other races. So.... yeah?

[@waveman0]

@@danielclawson2099 they were racist but that was because they had hunted the Deta quadrant for at least a hundred thousand years. They were superior in many ways, yes genetically, few would argue that, but inferior in other ways. Some of their species could rise above their breed though.

[@GnosticAtheist]

While the Hirogen where supremacists in behavior, the only way to prove their superiority would be to kill the one they believed they where superior to. As such, they would not think themselves superior to another race that constantly won. Thus their racism is questionable in the way we (mis)use the term today. I would call them by a more scientific term, such as "weird af".

[@MDE_never_dies]

The Hirogen are superior though

[@jimparsons6803]

The fellow that payed the German officer has appeared a number of times in the Star Trek universe. A very capable actor. J. Paul Boehmer. Many in the various ST shows often do not appear in other shows or movies... been my experiences anyway. ST then is a repertory company? The Hirogin commander makes a point though, in war technology is at least half of the issue.

[@siegejay495]

He made a good borg character

[@KuDastardly]

_"The Hirogin commander makes a point though, in war technology is at least half of the issue."_ It reminds me of a passage in The Art of War where Sun Tzu said _“In war, numbers alone confer no advantage. Do not advance relying on sheer military power."_

[@DannySG1]

Speaking of reparatory, the actor that plays the Hirogen commander is Danny Goldring, who has also made many appearances.

[@NickyHelp]

What Karr spoke was true. The German Kapitan does become the prey. Prey to the Klingons, for underestimating the enemy and disrespecting its abilities.

[@terribleauthority]

He's not a Kapitan, that title was only used by the Kriegsmarine (Navy). In the Heer (Army), he'd be called a Hauptmann, but as a member of the Waffen-SS, he's an SS-Hauptsturmführer.

[@NickyHelp]

@@terribleauthority Guess again. He was addressed as "Naamloze Kapitän" in a cast list. It said so fair and square. Also, Kapitan is a German word for Captain. And what you bought up for nothing is unrelated and not what it means. You thought wrong.

[@terribleauthority]

@@NickyHelp I was not aware of that, but he's wearing the uniform of a Hauptsturmführer, and that would be the correct way to address him. I'm aware Kapitan is a German word for Captain, but as I said it was only used by their Navy.

[@NickyHelp]

@@terribleauthority Wrong again. What you said doesn't mean he is what you think he is. Uniforms don't always mean anything when it comes to films. You still addressed him wrong. I don't care if you are unaware, you're still wrong on what he was addressed as. He was addressed as a Kapitan (which means captain) fair and square. There's nothing you can do about. Stop lying, get over it and leave it at that. If you really were aware that Kapitan is a German word for Captain, then you wouldn't be giving false answers what is. You were still wrong anyway, and I already proved what really is. Kapitan is not only used for navy, anyway, and it's not what they addressed. I checked. You can't talk or lie your way out of it. Don't even bother trying, cause it will get you nowhere and you're not going to win this. Not ever. And since you are one of those people who don't have videos in your channel and are merely, here spreading lies and false info on other, don't bother trying to make anymore lying comments to counter my facts and proof, because you are blocked and muted for your false info. You had it and bought that on yourself. You can't fool anyone or me, no matter who you think you are. Good day forever.

[@terribleauthority]

@@NickyHelp I'm not sure what's wrong with you, my guy. Settle down. He's wearing a specific uniform with a specific rank that should be addressed a specific way. TV show decided to make it simpler for the viewer. I was just correcting you because I'm frivolous like that. Take it easy before you burst a vein.

[@nuclearsimian3281]

I fucking loved this moment. Probably showed off the best, how one of the best physically capable races in Trek, that could track down 8472/Undine and kill them in basically melee, showed that superiority amounted to nothing when confronted with what was essentially just bait.

[@sauceyeti4381]

Ayo, what's Henry Cavill doing with vintage Hugo Boss drip? 💀

[@howardlanus8467]

This is a perfect response to those claiming inherent superiority. I'll remember this scene all my life.

[@salzigerfranz1291]

The Colonial age and the difference between technological achievements prove European superiority.

[@thenotoriousgryyn342]

@@salzigerfranz1291But now the descendants of the colonials are reaping the bitter fruit of their ancestors actions, to put it bluntly it’s starting to bite them on the ass.

[@thenotoriousgryyn342]

Yes, those claiming superiority enjoy their time in the Sun. But in the end it is their descendants that pay the price of their ancestors actions, who must answer for the crimes committed, who will suffer the consequences that their ancestors should’ve suffered.

[@salzigerfranz1291]

@@thenotoriousgryyn342 We helped those people so much and this is how they say thank you, speaks volumes about them ngl.

[@Ragitsu]

@@salzigerfranz1291 A little hint: if someone truly is superior, they don't need to advertise and/or defend their (purported) superiority. A superior individual would be so unquestionably better that no one would question their supreme status.

[@bob7975]

Defeating Nazis with facts AND logic! Well done!

[@Kainlarsen]

Don't talk the talk if you can't walk the walk.

[@gladiater56]

I like the Hirogen at the very end. Irritation at having to play the part for what he must have considered an infantile world view and worship of a flawed man. All for the much purer endeavor of, the hunt.

[@kristoferho7288]

He only respected the warriors that fought equal foes or against superior foes. He only respected soldiers and officers that fought in battles and earned their way up.

[@Saturnia2014]

That voice is sooooo smooth

[@gazmendsubrahimi8360]

KLINGON: "YOU HAVE NO HONOR.. WEAK HUMAN!!!" [German soldier gets stabbed by something sharp]. ROMULAN: [German officer gets shot by disruptor-before German officer finishes his sentence]. "Foolish Human, You are ALL INFERIOR!". FERENGI: "So (let me get this straight) you are wasting all of your nation's monetary resources fighting a war on both sides and exterminating others because you think you are superior to other Hoo'mons???" "Stupid -Hooo'MON!". Lmao

[@tricksor6589]

🤓

[@darania1]

War is good for business...Ferengi Rule of Aquisition#34

[@plasticarmymen4life966]

I have a theory about this episode is that all the Germans thinks this is normal and not weird at all is because the Germans did a lot of meth during ww2

[@RurouniKalainGaming]

The quality of this makes it seem like it's from the 1960s. 😂 Almost fits!

[@chrispekel5709]

Feels like 70's or early 80's

[@StraightWhiteMaleNews]

This was uploaded 13 days ago...looks like it was uploaded 23 years ago

[@zelvadrian]

Yes! I recorded this when it aired in 1998, then years later, converted it to digital.

[@alexpetrovich85]

Yeah you're the biggest kid on the block till you're not. That's the ontological food chain for ya.

[@kencf0618]

Even evil has its standards.

[@GnosticAtheist]

The Hirogen did not strike me as evil. Much like in "the Predator" they simply has another way of conceptualization. They do not torture for the enjoyment of sadism, nor do they commit genocide to "purify" anything. They just want to find out if they are better then you. By killing you, or if they are wrong, you killing them. Thats fair play.

[@thenotoriousgryyn342]

Hirogen aren’t evil.

[@suburbantimewaster9620]

For the first time in my life, I actually agree with the Hirogen. That guy is superior to no one.

[@zelvadrian]

YES! Awesome! I loved this scene so much! I searched for it and couldn't find it, so I dusted off the old VHS tape and digitized it! It was so ironic that the Hirogen are pretty much the bad guys, BUT the leader was WISE and HUMBLE, by putting an arrogant Nazi in his place! Cool and freaky!!

[@Enkarashaddam]

Lol the alpha was spitting straight facts

[@andrewroberts7428]

grow up with your alpha bullshit

[@sccchan1980]

Didn’t he also play the future borg drone?

[@yupnope3171]

Yes he did

[@justice_1337]

Did you really ask a question you already knew the answer to?

[@HardNorthOutdoors]

ah, so he's the "Drone".

[@exastrisscientia8656]

He is One

[@matthewfergusons4318]

My question is why are we so obsessed with these jackasses jackboots could you even lasted six years the leaders and then we're so in a non remarkable remarkable you just walked past the street and never thought anything

[@SoCalSurfer69]

The Nazi actor is the same person who played the borg drone from the future

[@zelvadrian]

Yes! He did a great job for both characters!

[@7783DEATH]

A lot of secrets in plain view

[@endaburns2121]

Like what?

[@7783DEATH]

@@endaburns2121 what happened to Admiral Byrd?

[@AisuSeijin]

lol Alien Hirogen putting pretentious nazi in his place, then after the whole speech after nearly strangling his neck, he salutes rofl. The Hirogen just stops and is like "Did you not listen to what I said bro?"

[@hmmmmm6056]

Imagine this guy did an AncestryDNA kit.

[@ulrichbehnke9656]

The arrogance of this nazi is a little bit exaggerated but it hits a point, because the top-nazis were all cowards and swaggerers. 😰 But what is with the warriors ethos of the Hirogen? This logic of what Nietzsche called „Herrenmoral“ (Moral of the masters versus moral of the slaves) and it’s militaristic 🫡 and religious values, to gather strength through hardship? I presume the script here indicates an older historic model: the spartanians, sending their military trainees every year in a war against the helots. This kind of esprit de corps is still very popular today. I personally are suspicious about it, isn’t it another nazi mythos? The old german tribes, living in the wilderness, beating the romans… versus the modern effifimated, civililzed, intellectual (jewish) world? 👹 In American movies the „nazi“ became an archetype of villain. You have criminals, monsters, vampires, mobsters, serial-killers, marsians, etc. and you have „nazis“. They are the perfect villain because thy combine the dangerousness of all villains in one and they are numerous- very practical because the hero in the movie can go on a killing spree (the audience can enjoy the brutality without having a bad conscience because the villain is so „bad“). But this obsession with the nazis in the Anglo-American culture is scaring me. 😬 It started with the Hollywood war movies to obsessive sampling of nazi-devolutions, to the rocker-scene with german badges and helmets, the fetish-scene with dominas in nazi-uniforms, to comic and manga scene and ended with the gamer-scene where all want to play with the tiger tank. So finally the nazi became an icon of the pop-culture. 😤 We modern Germans have learned to live with it. For me as a modern German it’s really weird to see them traveling with space - and timeships to everywhere a movie director want to have them. Is this a dangerous unreflective way too make the nazi gain what they failed to reach in reality: a thousand-years-reich in Hollywood? 🫣 Or is this a kind of exorcism - have we to kill the nazis everyday in our culture to overcome our own demons?

[@zhouwu]

I've lived in both the German speaking world as well as in the English speaking world. One thing I've noticed is that Germans have seen the terrible ending and taken some degree of caution related to it, but English speakers hold a certain degree of arrogance, related to being the "heroes" and "victors" and "liberators". It's a very dangerous state of euphoria that can lead to delusions of grandeur. Young men are far more prone to it than the old. Older men tend to have already suffered sufficient injustice and seen enough corruption and evil to not so easily fall prey to simplistic narratives of "good verses evil". Ultimately, our current models of government are based on the Greco-Roman classical 🏛️⛲ architecture, sightly modified, whitewashed and "modernised" in a very superficial way to give a very thin veneer and facade of progress to fool the majority into patting themselves on the back for being "better" than their ancestors. But even the Greco-Roman model is based on the scaffold of the Persianised Mesopotamian autocratic government, where monarch worship was the norm. Obviously, democracy is an attempt to move away from that, but every country has some form of state worship or leader worship, so that there is some sort of centre that can bind a large group of unrelated people together. In the absence of Christ as God incarnated to fill the power vacuum that inferior men, women, ideologies, deities, myths, and whatever else tries to fill, humanity is subject to implosion. We're at a point of the crisis of faith. Without Christ Jesus as the Chief Cornerstone, there can be no basis for trust between any two human strangers. Without Christ as the Foundation Stone, there is no basis for agreement between people of very different backgrounds and education levels. And without Christ Jesus as the Topstone of Grace, there can be no finishing touch to the human edifice, which can restore our pride in what God has made us into!

[@dunkelsteinen1747]

@@zhouwu You almost had me until you started on about Jesus ngl. You can have a perfectly meaningful life without Christianity, or any religious belief. Hell what you even talked about touched on how we've acted since way before Christ. His coming didn't change anything. If you find meaning in his teachings great, but remember that same fervour is also what pushed the Crusades, and I'd argue to an extent most wars.

[@ulrichbehnke9656]

@@zhouwu Thanks for your interesting comment. I presume any christian priest would answer you: „Jesus is not away, he is part of the Trinity.“ I‘m not religious but I like one essential message in the New Testament: „Stop sacrificing humans!“ This is an appeal to humans to take responsibility for ourself. Coming back to the present: When kings or dictators play god they have a problem: unlike a real god they can not give life, they can only take life. Therefore I see a kind of competition between Hitler and Stalin and their rival Ideologies - who has more human sacrifices. Sacrifices in form of killed „system-enemies“ and in form of selfsacrificing soldiers. Perhaps this is one element of the holocaust. In the Second World War both dictators were pushing their armies in senseless human wave attacks. Resulting in the catastrophal losses of 15 Million soldiers. Actual in the Ukrainean war Putin is repeating this ruthlessness to his own men. For us Germans war is a desease. It’s looks rational because you see the perfect machinery of war pretending logic in itself but it is always pure aggression, it always pretend that the enemy is less human than you and in all wars both side declare that the enemy had planned to exstinct you and you had no choice but to preempt his attack and in all wars it ends in irrationality, surpassing competition of brutality and self-destruction. That is why we Germans are so hesitating a little bit to get deeper involved in this conflict. We want to help the ukraineans, I personally have contact with refugees, but we fear the emotional loss of control. Or in one short sentence: We Germans avoid to went to war - not because we are afraid of the enemy - but we are afraid of the Germans.

[@zhouwu]

@@dunkelsteinen1747 The crusaders were pushed not by Jesus, but by a false teaching by the Pope: That forgiveness of sins is contingent on participation on the crusades. That's heresy. You should know better, because Martin Luther, from your country, debunked that heresy. When Simon Peter attempted to defend Jesus from being taken prisoner by using his sword 🗡️ to cut off the ear 👂 of the servant of the high priest, what did Jesus say to him? "Deus Vult! Kill the infidels and see your sins purged! I'll see you in heaven!" No! Jesus told Simon Peter to sheath his sword 🗡️, because he who lives by the sword 🗡️ must die by the sword 🗡️, and HEALED the ear 👂 of the servant of the high priest. Jesus had no evil intent against even those who arrested Him. How then can you blame Him for the crusades? Was it not the Latin Pope who wanted to push the Eastern Orthodox bishops into swearing fealty to him in exchange 💱 for him lending them the fighting power of the Latin Christians against the Muslims who concocted this plan in his own heart? Don't you dare accuse my Jesus of the evils of ambitious men! He Is the Holy One, the True One, the One who holds the keys of David, the One who opens and no one can shut, and the One who shuts, and no one can open! Jesus is innocent of the blood the Pope brainwashed the crusaders into shedding!

[@zhouwu]

@@ulrichbehnke9656 You speak well. Kings and dictators cannot give life. They can only take life. The Thief does not come, except to steal and to kill and to destroy. But the Son of God comes to give Eternal Life, and to Give the Eternal, Uncreated Resurrection Life of God to whosoever will receive 📲📨 Him peaceably, and to give this Life which can raise them out of sitting in the gloom and shadow of death ☠️💀 into the Light of the Kingdom of the Son of God's Love. Apparently, the kings and dictators are in direct competition with each other. Actually, they are in collusion against the Son of God, who is the genuine Leader and Christ God has appointed to all men, whose rightful place they are all usurping for their own selfish ends. Wars are exceedingly useful to political leaders to redirect the attention of their subjects away from their powerlessness to make their lives at all better, because they are only fellow mortals, and can give nothing, but need the taxes to put bread on their tables and to send their children to the best schools and to purchase the best houses and so on and so forth, and it's just so much easier to play the mud slinging game by focusing attention on the failures of other leaders. While they send endless idealistic youths to die a meaningless death ☠️💀 on the front as minimal wage paid cannon fodder, they take all the glory, as if the "saviour" of the world. This robs Jesus of the glory He richly deserves. Since the dawn of humanity, who has heard of a King who died so that His servant can live? And yet, Jesus, my King, died on my behalf, so that I can speak these words to you. Since the dawn of humanity, who has ever heard of a Man who paid for the debts of His enemies? And yet, I was born a God denying Communist, and here I am, forgiven by God, because Jesus took my place on the Cross. Modern men lift up their noses at the "barbaric" method God used to save us. "Human sacrifice? Disgusting!" They say. Surely, the God of this universe can come up something better! Meanwhile, they are more than happy to cheer on their own countries, like they are some kind of sports team, sending young men, and sometimes, women, to die on the front, so that they can feel better about themselves. "Nothing barbaric about that! They are the bad guys! We had to!" So the powers of this age who are get a blank cheque of human lives to sacrifice to make themselves look good, while mud slinging God as a "barbaric" has been, for sacrificing His Son so that we don't have to die. We have committed a grave injustice against our own God. We have foolishly considered ourselves far too modern, far too educated, far too sophisticated, to do things according to His seemingly primitive methods. What are our "modern", "educated" and "sophisticated" methods? While we sacrifice soldiers on the front, we sacrifice our youths in the workplaces. We milk them for their youth and energy. We pay them minimal wage to put their bodies on the line to earn a slice of bread. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Don't get me wrong. I believe that work is good for the soul. But hard work is no longer good enough. The employers want your souls. They want you to put your souls into it. I refuse. My Jesus died for me. He paid for me with His own Blood. No CEO or Dictator or King can outbid my Lord Jesus Christ. If He sends me to preach the gospel to a man who will kill me before he believes, so be it. His Blood has earned mine. His Blood is clean and sinless, whereas mine is compromised by sin and the world. I have stuck the Holy Bargain. I give to God all that is me and mine and everything I can do in exchange 💱 for everything that is Him and His and everything He can do. My all for His All. In paying with my all, I have lost nothing and gained everything.

[@Wizardof]

As both a REAL country music fan AND a Star Trek Voyager fan, I LOVED THIS EPISODE. The 1998 music video of Trisha Yearwood "There goes My Baby" was the best all year. It was filmed on that set too!

[@kolelokaram8541]

Casual racism vs. Competitive racism

[@budidayaberuk6144]

I thought the nazi symbol was the tilted swastika and the normal swastika is actually a symbol from buddhism...

[@lichtbringer2289]

​@@luxincognita The nazi swastika can be shown in German films as long as they are not nazi propaganda. Do you think movies like Raiders of the lost Ark are/were banned in Germany? Sure, video games were treated differently, but these laws are increasingly no longer applied (e.g. the newer Wolfenstein games).

[@matthew8153]

How have I not seen this episode?

[@psychiatry-is-eugenics]

Military intelligence , contradiction of terms

[@VengefulBatz]

I remember 7 stared them down and said Fuck you I’m borg.

[@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis]

German officer sounded British for a moment. that’s suspicious. 😑

[@IDontGetIrony]

"We are German" 🗿"Why"

[@Raooka]

We are Pakled

[@ThomasHaberkorn]

is the Actor of the German guy the same as the one for the superior Borg drone in the episode "One" ?

[@zelvadrian]

yes!

[@SR-iy4gg]

HIs attitude is like that of the Borg. Why do you deserve this? He's like, "We are German. Need I say more?" Just like the Borg's response to questioning them. "We are Borg," as if that covers everything! LOL So, it really fits that this same actor at some point also played a Borg character.

[@conor3464]

This too close to Star Trek Enterprise, same writer as Voyager...?

[@andrewsheek]

The girl that came in at the end is literally the chief engineer on Voyager.

[@Trekki03]

Voyager: The Killing Game, Season 4 Episode 18

[@conor3464]

@@Trekki03 "Ich glaube, Sie haben Recht."thanks, I Stand corrected, post altered accordingly...

[@alpacaofthemountain8760]

Loved Voyager

[@Zombiepull]

why does it look and sounds like a VHS Tape from 1995?

[@zelvadrian]

It basically is! LOL; I recorded this when it aired in 1998 on a VCR.

[@Pdmc-vu5gj]

Another day at Mar a Lago.

[@johnl1091]

Jesus Christ, go touch grass

[@matthewwaddington2777]

A real warrior, to a fake one!

[@firemangan]

And the fact that the Romans had this in mind and utilized to their advantage to conquer the amount that they were able to conquer whilst the Germans in WW2 only relied on superiority complex 😂

[@Azrael__]

Wow, these 'Nazi' guys were pretty problematic 😬

[@shiroamakusa8075]

This footage makes it look like Voyager is from the 1980s. Is this a filter or from an old recorded VHS?

[@Diverball1]

It's almost certainly a badly encoded VHS rip from an episode that was recorded from broadcast NTSC on a consumer level recorder. There is vastly better quality material out there.

[@Azrael__]

Yeah, it's pretty cool, it looks EXACTLY like it's from the 80s, really goes to show how much the medium can affect the experience.

[@zelvadrian]

Yes! I recorded this the night that it aired in 1998, and years later converted it to digital.

[@mykillmetal1814]

Why does it look and sound like it was recorded in 1978?

[@zelvadrian]

It's a conversion from a recording from 1998.

[@craigfuller1532]

Well that's just bizarre.

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

Just a thousand years?

[@Ragitsu]

Is that a money-back sort of guarantee?

[@Wzrd8]

Interesting chandelier....

[@TheGreatSeraphim]

Hirogen are just a very vocal copy paste of Predators.

[@herbert.hutterer]

Did you convert a VHS tape? Sorry, but there are better ways to put these clips on youtube...

[@TheBigExclusive]

There is no need for insults. There is room for both. I like this recording.

[@herbert.hutterer]

@@TheBigExclusive This is not an insult, just a technical assessment. Contrary to what may be the benefit of music on vinyl, I can't see any benefit in watching blurry and shaky videos on VHS.

[@zelvadrian]

Yes! I recorded this off of TV in 1998, and years later converted it.

[@TheBigExclusive]

@@herbert.hutterer - We are all aware that there are better quality clips available. However, this video still has historical value. It shows younger generations what it was like watching Voyager on Network TV. And for older people it gives them a bit of nostalgia about the past. This clip reminded me of watching it on UPN many years ago. It's not up to you to determine what is valuable and what isn't.

[@Ragitsu]

It's a piece of history, Herbert.

[@barkking]

In german i read the sentence "Herrenmenschen haben keine Herren". So thats why germans could not be superiors over germans.

[@okolona1]

Excellent

[@sonic1135]

The killing game part 1

[@PARAMOUNTPHLOPYNATOR]

epic lol

[@amyhogarten5038]

Well that’s was weird

[@Blackwater_House]

I noticed that the Nazi Swastika isn’t an actual Nazi Swastika.

[@Tounushi]

how so? It was depicted in numerous ways in official materials.

[@Blackwater_House]

@@Tounushi If the Arms are Horizontal and Vertical the Swastika is Traditional, but if they are on the Diagonal, it is a Nazi Swastika

[@chrispekel5709]

​@@Tounushi he means it's not on an angle

[@ulrichbehnke9656]

Perhaps this was done for juristical reasons. In Germany it is forbidden to show the swastica in public. Or perhaps they changed it to make a statement: this is symbol modified in a artificial way to demonstrate this is a movie and movie is a form of art, we use political symbolism not for political purposes but for a distanced observation for purposes of entertainment and contemplation. It is reasonable they don’t use the original symbol because they may have get accused for making nazi-symbolism popular or have annoyed someone who had suffered from the real nazis and thinks this is inappropriate. It also makes clear: we make a statement not only on the historical nazis but on every kind of racism.

[@chrispekel5709]

@@ulrichbehnke9656 all good points, however in the episode you also see the tilted symbol

[@GenerationX1984]

This is why I think the Roman Empire should have conquered Germany in ancient times. Being conquered and enslaved by a foreign group would have humbled them. Mussolini tried to tell Hitler that Italy was superior to Germany but Hitler didn't listen.

[@darania1]

No Rome was humbled by Germania by losing Varus three legions...

[@anthon4947]

Most of the cinema dealing with Nazis from the last 50 years feels so cringe today. Guys who probably never threw a punch writing dialogue for other people to act out some righteous Nazi smash fetish lol, it's always so over the top

[@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164]

Voyager is one of the better Star Trek shows.

[@chrispekel5709]

It's awful, I have no idea why it's become so popular..it's truly odd

[@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164]

@@chrispekel5709 Star Trek Voyager is popular because of Seven of Nine. Jeri Ryan is holding up nicely. She still looks hot at 51 years on Star Trek. Picard.

[@Ragitsu]

@@chrispekel5709 _Voyager_ has risen in popularity because it is closer to the ideals of _Star Trek_ than many of the now-contemporary darker takes on the franchise.

[@thenotoriousgryyn342]

It is 👍

[@anotherj4896]

The Nazis were brave warriors. This is a historical fact.

[@Ragitsu]

Cowardly khunts.

[@thenotoriousgryyn342]

No.

[@anotherj4896]

@@thenotoriousgryyn342 yes.

[@Ragitsu]

@@anotherj4896 Piss off.

[@darenyoung1872]

Sounds like Putin lol

[@AceoSpades0]

for l of ls

[@LukeLovesRose]

Uncle H did nothing wrong

[@LukeLovesRose]

@@TK______ Nukes are fake too... just like the 6m myth

[@themysteriouscrumpet]

Well, he did kill Hitler

[@RA-ie3ss]

It's too bad time has shown the star trek future is ignorant and wrong

[@lzbhcvm6747]

I hate how they always just had to make fun of the nazis lol. Make you wonder who's the real nazi

[@craithteemeghan5311]

Ironically this holographic Nazi convinces the Hirogen to continue fighting later on when he is about to acquiesce to his superiors command to surrender or halt fighting!

[@charzanboo9940]

@Craith Teemeghan A truly surreal moment.

[@Ragitsu]

Nazi defender? "Oh, leave those _poor_ genocidal assholes alone!"

[@charzanboo9940]

@@Ragitsu Well, Biden and Dems made Nazis cool in Ukraine, so it's okay now.

[@Ragitsu]

@@charzanboo9940 Stuff it, right-wing chode.

[@somedude2342]

Aliens would team with the allies.