YOU Didn't "CREATE" Hip Hop Stop The Games

[@stackmosayless-1669]

Im Puerto Rican and in all honesty American blacks from NY created it had glimpses from other cultures who contributed. The golden era of hip hop from 86-96 break dancing was a fad when Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, EPMD A Tribe Called Qwest, came in the B Boy style was gone. These pioneers were sampling funk legends, jazz legends and of course James Brown. James Brown contributed a solid 2 decades to rap music. Then artist started getting sued for big money. When the Mid to late 90's NWA, Wutang, NAS, Mobb Deep and the 2nd wave of new artist rap been left house parties and was in the streets now. Puerto Ricans didnt do Soul, jazz, R&b and funk music. American blacks perfected it. My mother is black and I grew up with everything from Mahalia Jackson to Parliament so just to keep everything on the up cant take away from Music that was created by black Americans not just Hip Hop but for the past 100 years.

[@KUTProductionz]

@stackmosayless-1669 Peace! Accurate assessment 86-96 you got it! You know your stuff G!

[@pavavision4695]

You Puerto Rican from Where...??? You 4got 2 Mention Special Ed 🇯🇲, Biz Markie and the Juice Crew All Stars, KRS 1 is from 🇧🇧, Prince Markie Dee from the Fatboys is 🇵🇷, Run DMC 🇩🇴 Wise from Stetsasonic is 🇵🇷, Dougie Fresh is 🇧🇧, Bambata is 🇯🇲, Whodini, Salt & Pepa 🇯🇲, Kid n' Play 🇯🇲,....The Top Rap Groups in those times were from the Caribben...Break Dancing evolve because of 🇵🇷...they was Not Spinning on the floors until 🇵🇷 Started Breaking the windmill is created by 🇵🇷 NYC Breakers, Grafitti is Latino Culture since the 50s....when you start adding elements like Dancing and Grafitti that's when it became contribution....& it was a Boricua that evolutionized the Turn Table with the Disc Plate in the Mids 70s, it was a 🇵🇷 Grafitti Artist CRASH ONE from the Bronx that Signed a major deal with a Clothing Brand in the 70s... 90% of the Grafitti Artist were Latinos 💯 Hip Hop is underground music from the NYC gangs in the 70s. 💯 Ruby Dee the 1st Latino Mc is 🇵🇷

[@pavavision4695]

​@@KUTProductionz😆🤣😅 the Golden Era is 1980- 1993 💯 And Little Homie doesn't know anything...Only a Fool By Association would approve such Nonsense....Since he 4got 2 mention the ORIGINAL G.O.A.T... LL COOL J 🎶💥💯💥🎶 14 Shots 2 the Dome...alot of Grasshoppers thinking they know the TRU HIP HOP 🎶💥💯💥🎶 I BET Little homie never listen 2 BFats or Danced the WOP 😆😆😅 😎 the FBA never approved of Hip Hop they only cared for R&B....it was The Latinos & Caribbean Youth that embraced it and took it World Wide Level 🎶💥💯💥🎶

[@stackmosayless-1669]

@pavavision4695 From Santurce your entire list they was born in NY. The 1st wave when it was B Boy elements inolved Puerto Ricans was there they wasn't creators. Matter of fact what Puerto Rican music originated in Puerto Rico? It ain't none even 1st reggaeton artist was Panamanian and Salsa is African music and rythems which was borrowed from Cuba and made popular in NY.

[@stackmosayless-1669]

@pavavision4695 Besides Pun name 1 top Puerto Rican MC stop believing the hype cause you only going to hurt yourself 🤣 silly🐰

[@raykane2063]

OG from the BX here, Early Hip Hop Djs learned about equipment from Disco King Mario, Grand Master Flowers. Pete DJ Jones etc.Pete DJ Jones was much older then Bam, Herc & Flash he is the one who showed Flash how to hook up equipment.Even today Flash is on instagram saying Jones mentored him. Everyone in NYC knew Disco King Mario & Pete DJ Jones had the best systems. And passed their knowledge. All the early Dj's before Flash, Herc and Bam played Clubs and Restaurants and brought Sound Systems from Sam ASH not from Jamaica. Kids where to young to go to clubs so we just took the speakers outside and used whatever we had. They would borrow the older Djs Equipment from time to time Bam and Flash always said this. It had nothing to do with Jamaican Sound Clash Systems. If you ever look at old Hip Hop systems the speakers are never stacked like mountains its just the normal Cerwin Vega or Bose etc. speaker from the 70's, the same in US clubs. Jamaican Systems focus on the Super heavy Bass while American Dj systems focused on Clarity. Just listen to the older music your ears won't lie to you.

[@kokoyaro]

Grand Master Flash was born in Barbados

[@KUTProductionz]

@@kokoyaro That's ok, Flash is dope. But other DJs predate him. Shout out to Flash and the Barbados.

[@melvinhill6684]

@@kokoyaro but he was from FBA CULTURE AND ONLY USE BLACK AMERICAN MUSIC

[@WillieTonka]

​@@KUTProductionz Turntablism and scratching does not predate Flash. You're trying to connect dots that are not there. Flash is from Barbados. If you're talking about just DJing and playing records, then Ronald Regan was a DJ in the 1940's and he predates all of this. Black people did not invent DJing and they did not invent the vinyl record nor the turntable. Quit lying to yourselves. And all the hip hop DJ's were playing white artists like Bob James, Billy Squier, Kraftwerk & Michael Viner's incredible Bongo Band and then stealing it through sampling. All hip hop has ever been about is taking from others and claiming it as your own. FBA's didn't invent sh*t. 💯 Facts.

[@thomasealy1254]

Flash or flowers is Barbadian but the didn't play no calypso music they played black Americans soul music facts

[@thomasealy1254]

We created several different types of music jazz,blues gospels bep bop rock&ROLL BUGGIE WOOGIE R&b soul funk

[@ev8318]

Shut up if you don't know what you talking about. Early Hip Hop drums. “The Big Beat” by Billy Squier. “Rocket in the Pocket (Live)” - Cerrone Doug E. Fresh, Slick Rick and The Get Fresh Crew "The Show" by Doug E. Fresh, Slick Rick and The Get Fresh Crew sampled The Beatles's "Michelle". Planet Rock by Afrika Bambaataa and Soulsonic Force Trans-Europe Express by Kraftwerk (1977) Hook / Riff. Electronic / Dance. The Mexican by Babe Ruth (1972) Hook / Riff. Rock / Pop. Numbers by Kraftwerk (1981) Multiple Elements. Electronic / Dance. The Fantastic Five have sampled "Oo La La!" by Sasson Dr. Dre In 2010, Dr. Dre's song "Under Pressure" samples Kraftwerk's 1977 track "Trans-Europe Express". The song also features Jay-Z. New Order In their song "Blue Monday", New Order uses a robotic choir sound sampled from Kraftwerk's 1975 track "Uranium". "Freestyling" by The Cold Crush Brothers samples Billy Joel's "Stiletto" from 1978. "And It's Us" also samples Billy Squier's "The Big Beat". "Punk Rock Rap" by The Cold Crush Brothers is also sampled in "The Show". "When I'm Sixty-Four", "The End", "Back in the USSR", and "Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)" are Beatles songs that are sampled in hip hop "Under Pressure" (1981) "Reaching Out" (2005) "We Are the Champions" (1977) "Bohemian Rhapsody" (1975) "Another One Bites the Dust" (1980) Another One Bites the Dust" Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five in their 1981 song "The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel". G00gle Cold Crush vs The Fantastic Five - Harlem World 1981 (best edit) 2021 redo Question: at the 2 minute and 45 second mark and so on, what melody are they using? =========================================================== list of Bob James songs that have been widely sampled in hip hop music: Nautilus - Run-D.M.C., Ghostface Killah, Slick Rick Take Me to the Mardi Gras - Run-D.M.C., LL Cool J, Beastie Boys Westchester Lady - Diamond D, Nas Angela (Theme from Taxi) - Souls of Mischief, Main Source Sign of the Times - Warren G Valley of the Shadows - DJ Shadow Shamboozie - Gravediggaz One Mint Julep - Onyx Mardi Gras (Live) - Public Enemy Farandole (L'Arlesienne Suite No. 2) - Camp Lo Nightcrawler - Guru Storm King - Gang Starr El Verano - Hieroglyphics Feel Like Making Love - East Flatbush Project Look-Alike - Digital Underground Tappan Zee - Organized Konfusion Westchester Lady - Diamond D, Nas Kari - DJ Premier Dream Journey - Camp Lo Women of Ireland - DJ Vadim The Golden Apple - Jeru the Damaja Since I Fell for You - Rakim You're as Right as Rain - Mary J. Blige Treasure Island - Souls of Mischief Sun Runner - Stetsasonic Where the Wind Blows Free - Freddie Foxxx Brazilian Skies - DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince In the Garden - The Beatnuts Night Crawler - Guru Jamaica Farewell - Madlib Rush Hour - Gang Starr Far From Turtle - Camp Lo Endless Time - Gravediggaz Feel Like Making Love - Kid 'N Play I Feel a Song (In My Heart) - DJ Shadow The Dude - Kool G Rap Macumba - DJ Krush We're All Alone - Freddie Gibbs Windsong - People Under the Stairs Turn Out the Lamplight - EPMD Love Power - A Tribe Called Quest Obsession - DJ Honda Angela (Theme from Taxi) - Curren$y Take Me to the Mardi Gras - Missy Elliott Nautilus - Busta Rhymes Nautilus - Slick Rick Night Crawler - Gang Starr Kari - Pete Rock Tappan Zee - Main Source Sign of the Times - DJ Quik Treasure Island - Fat Joe Sun Runner - Cypress Hill Shamboozie - N.W.A Storm King - DJ Premier Westchester Lady - Nas Dream Journey - Ghostface Killah Brazilian Skies - The Pharcyde Since I Fell for You - Dr. Dre Feel Like Making Love - Kid 'N Play Women of Ireland - Mos Def The Dude - Kanye West We're All Alone - The Alchemist Valley of the Shadows - DJ Premier El Verano - Hieroglyphics In the Garden - DJ Premier Nightcrawler - DJ Premier Macumba - J Dilla Rush Hour - MF DOOM Far From Turtle - Madlib Endless Time - Gravediggaz Treasure Island - Pete Rock Since I Fell for You - 9th Wonder You're as Right as Rain - Kanye West Turn Out the Lamplight - DJ Shadow Feel Like Making Love - The Alchemist Look-Alike - Madlib One Mint Julep - DJ Premier Shamboozie - DJ Premier Farandole (L'Arlesienne Suite No. 2) - DJ Premier Women of Ireland - DJ Premier Feel Like Making Love - DJ Premier The Dude - DJ Premier We're All Alone - DJ Premier Valley of the Shadows - DJ Premier El Verano - DJ Premier In the Garden - DJ Premier Nightcrawler - DJ Premier Macumba - DJ Premier Rush Hour - DJ Premier Far From Turtle - DJ Premier Endless Time - DJ Premier Treasure Island - DJ Premier Since I Fell for You - DJ Premier You're as Right as Rain - DJ Premier Turn Out the Lamplight - DJ Premier Feel Like Making Love - DJ Premier Look-Alike - DJ Premier One Mint Julep - DJ Premier Shamboozie - DJ Premier

[@KUTProductionz]

I know you're upset and I dont mind you sharing. However don't come to my page with disrespect or I will ban you. You doing a lot of explaining of things we already know also. No disrespect on the page.

[@KUTProductionz]

We know the samples stop making the argument convoluted. So what it was sampled from Bob James, and on an Akai MPC Drum Machine made in Japan or Roger Linn 808 drums were used. So what. That don't make them the creators of Hip Hop either.

[@ev8318]

@@KUTProductionz You need to listen to yourself in that video.

[@KUTProductionz]

@ev8318 Ok. Well let me be clear. A sample from Bob James or whomever doesn't make them a creator of Hip Hop either. A credit to them them as a contributor for sure. Creator of the culture no. Bob James is dope for. I own One, Two and Three on wax, do you?

[@ev8318]

@@KUTProductionz You have to do your own research. Hip Hop is not a culture that was passed down from people from the 30s and so on. What I provided was to counter your statement about ''pretty much all foundational blk records''.

[@Ukboss1]

Black americans created hip hop others contributed to the culture from the start in small doses

[@jameskoebel7816]

Kool Herc was from Jamaica. I don't hear anyone saying what you are saying, accept you!

[@KUTProductionz]

@jameskoebel7816 You're not in the loop.

[@KUTProductionz]

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[@KUTProductionz]

Watch this to get up to speed.

[@mannysavage88]

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[@patrickstromann3836]

First off, learn how to spell. It's "except you". Ah yeah? kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6nKk4eJgrNqors

[@ev8318]

Breaking is a two party created element. The first bboys (Foundational Black Americans) were not doing the moves that are considered a phenomenon, which are windmills, continuous head spins, back spins, hand spins/1990s, shoulder spins, elbow spins and so on. These moves are considered iconic in the world of breaking. PRs created the foundation for the dance. The steps, the power moves and certain foundational freezes. That’s factual. Kids today learning learn from the PR style which is basically the main style of breaking. Puerto Ricans have the right to say that they helped create breaking, about 90% of it. Puerto Ricans not only took breaking to the next level, but they took it to a whole another level that was unimagined by FBA. Puerto Ricans kept the element alive for 45 years. Puerto Ricans took breaking from a tricycle to a Koenigsegg Jesko Absolut. 🛑Making it very clear so that there is no confusion. Foundational Black Americans did not create the Nuyorican style of breaking which is the style that you will be seeing in the Olympics. Below is what was invented or created Latinos/PR/Hispanics. There are a few blks mentioned. HEAD SPINS ( ONE SHOT ) "SWANE (ZULU KINGS) WAS SAID TO BE THE FIRST TO USE THIS MOVE IN BBOYIN CHAIR FREEZE "ROB (ZULU KINGS)" CC LONG FOOTWORK( 6 STEP) "SPY (CRAZY COMMANDERS)"4 4 STEP "SPY" SWIPES "SPY" BABY BRIDGES "SPY" SIDE TO SIDE CHAIR FREEZES "BOS" AND "SPY" TRACK (FLOOR) "TRACK 2" FIRST VERSION OF BACK SPIN "JOJO" SECOND INNOVATION OF BACK SPIN "MONGO" THIRD INNOVATION OF BACK SPIN "CRAZY LEGS" (ROCK STEADY CREW) BEST BBOY TO MASTER COMBINATIONS "MONGO" FIRST VERSION OF 1990'S "TRACK 2"USED THE HAND STAND PIROUETTE IN HIS BBOYING SECOND VERSION OF 1990'S "CRAZY LEGS" DID A HIGH OVER ROTATED SWIPE THAT LED TO HIM SPINNING THE NAME 1990 "KEN SWIFT" (ROCK STEADY CREW) ORIGINAL USED THIS NAME TO DESCRIBE HIS FUTURISTIC FLOAT BACK SPIN THAT STARTED ON ONE HAND IN A SEMI HAND STAND POSITION AND CAME INTO THE BACK SPIN SLOW THEN SPED UP INTO A FREEZE HAND GLIDE "WEEBLE ROCK" CONTINUO'S (WINDMILLS) "CRAZY LEGS" WHILE DOING A BACKSPIN HE CONTENTED THE PROCESS OF THAT MOVE AND DEVELOPED IT. TAP HEAD SPINS (CONTINUO'S) "KID FREEZE" (DYNAMIC ROCKERS) AIR TRACKS (TRACKS WITHOUT FEET TOUCHING THE FLOOR) "KID FREEZE" HALOS (LOOKS LIKE CROSS BETWEEN AIR TRACKS AND HEAD GLIDE) "KID FREEZE" NINJA FREEZE (FREEZE OUT OF A CONTINUO'S, AIR MOVE THAT LANDED IN NINJA STYLE POSE) "ICEY ICE" (DYNAMIC, MAG FORCE, NYC BREAKERS) HEAD GLIDES (LEGS UP HEAD GLIDES AROUND HAND LIKE A COMPASS) "ICEY ICE" AND OR "WAVY LEGS" (DYNAMIC ROCKERS) AXLE (STAR TRACK, AIR FLARE) "FREDDIE FRESH" THERE ARE GONNA BE ALLOT OF DEBATES ABOUT THIS ONE...BUT I CAN ONLY GO BY WHAT I KNOW AS TRUTH..AND IN MY OPINION FREDDIE FRESH WAS THE FIRST TO DO THIS MOVE IN THE EARLY TO MID 80'S PLANK FREEZE KEN SWIFT SPIDERMAN FOOTWORK MR WIGGLES AIR BABY KEN SWIFT SWIRLS (DOUBLE ELBOW SPINS) SIR SWIFT CONTINUOUS TO 90'S (WINDMILL/90'S) BBOY GERMAN (BRONX, NEW YORK) WRIST 90'S ORIGINAL CONCEPT KEN SWIFT (NOT THE ACTUAL SPINS) WRIST 90'S BBOY GERMAN (SPINS) NO HAND NECK MOVE (COIN DROP) ACTION - NYC BREAKERS FIRST BBOY TO INCORPORATE FLARES INTO BBOYING BBOY GERMAN ELBOW SLIDE KEN SWIFT DOUBLE LEG SWEEPS POW WOW (SOUL SONIC FORCE) WALK OVER SWIPE CRAZY LEGS ELBOW SPINS KID FREEZE BOUNCIN CE CE'S KEN SWIFT AND MR WIGGLES COUNTINOUS PLANK - BBOY NANO Knowledge courtesy of POE ONE Cobra Attacking the Eagle (AKA Air Chair) Made up by POEONE Air baby - Junior Cardon - Sidewalk breakers (1984?) Hand Hops - ORKO Knowledge courtesy of FRANKIE FLAVE Baby windmills - OZ ROCK Radar headspins - ORKO Double halo - Robbie/Air force Crew Knowledge courtesy of X TRO Head Glides - X TRO45 Jumpin Spider - X TRO Knowledge courtesy of ALIEN NESS Axel - Tic Master Charlie rocks - charlie rock of the crazy commandos Air tracks - kid freeze The air four step - icey ice Diamond knee spins - Buck 4 Turtles - Weebles pop ups - kuirakli RSC no hands pop ups - pex (TBC) Reverse 1990 - Alien Ness(Atrribution via Trac2)/EZ rock coin drop - ACTION from NYCB55 kneespins - SWAYNE FROM ZULU KINGS back cc's ( another form of shuffles) track 2 corkscrews - phase2 / mitchel projects crew 8 ball sweeps - Alien Ness jackhammers/hopping handgydes - NANO flares - Track 2 w freeze aka back breaker - lil julio crazy commandos 1990 - Track 2 Doughnuts later known as Circles - Track2 JulioReverse head glides - Alien Ness ZULU KINGS Flares - Track2 Turtle = Weebles - crazy commandos Stacking - Crumbs Knowledge courtesy of Fable RSC Original suicide/Back slam = Frosty Freeze *RSC = RIP Drunken Style = Frosty Freeze *RSC (I know it's a style and not a move but it's all good) Vertical elbow spin = Take One *RSC Sweep swipes = Icey Ice *NYCB Air move = Icey Ice *NYCB Traveling 1990s = Awesome Paul *IB (Incredible Breakers) Threads = Mr. Wiggles *RSC Traveling W = Greggo *Executioners Knowledge courtesy of Powerful Pex - NYCB Circles - Pex NYCB Flares = Pex NYCB Slam aka Suicicdes = Pex NYCB Turtle = P.Man - Seven Deadly Sins Chair knee spin = Pex NYCB Head Halos = Cory NYCB77 Hopping Float/turtles - Nano Diamond spin back (knee spin to sweep swipe combo) = Pex NYCB Roach - Weeble rock Baby windmills AKA Cannon balls = Cory NYCB Suicide = Air twist/Pex Knowledge courtesy of Track 2 (Via Alien Ness) Power 2 step aka salsoul Float - Lil Julio Elbow rocks - Lil Julio knee rocks - Lil Julio Bodyrolls - Lil JulioReverse head glides - Alien Ness ZULU KINGS Knowledge courtesy of Charles (Soul Control) Airflare - Climax - Soul Control

[@KUTProductionz]

You're out of hand bro lol. Yes PR cats did advance it. I never said they didnt. Especially after the brother were done with it and had moved on. No problem. We're talking creators and origins that's all. Relax G.

[@ev8318]

@@KUTProductionz PR are cocreators. Breaking is a two party created element. The first bboys (Foundational Black Americans) were not doing the moves that are considered a phenomenon, which are windmills, continuous head spins, back spins, hand spins/1990s, shoulder spins, elbow spins and so on. These moves are considered iconic in the world of breaking. PRs created the foundation for the dance. The steps, the power moves and certain foundational freezes. That’s factual. Kids today learning learn from the PR style which is basically the main style of breaking. Puerto Ricans have the right to say that they helped create breaking, about 90% of it. Puerto Ricans not only took breaking to the next level, but they took it to a whole another level that was unimagined by FBA. Puerto Ricans kept the element alive for 45 years.

[@KUTProductionz]

​@ev8318 It wasn't co creators bro. Yes PR added to it after brother created it all love. You guys got in a little after and deft carried the torch- no problem. The legend GRAND MASTER CAZ says So! And Grand Master FLASH Says so. Crazy Legs and Rock Steady were late. They dope though. Respect to them! Their is film black people hitting the floor in the 1940s. I'm pulling and post.

[@ev8318]

@@KUTProductionz Once the power moves that are considered a phenomenon, along with the foundational moves that PR created, that is the point were the cocreation took place. The power moves is not even considered dancing, understand? Tell me, what kind of dance was the first Bboy ''Trixie'' doing? Who was Trixie's fiercest competitor?

[@KUTProductionz]

@@ev8318 Bro I said PR cats added on. What more do you want? You going all uptown and downtown and spinning the block. Just say black created and kinda left the scene, that's all bro. All love.

[@dr.clivejames4567]

Hmm… Extremely interesting 🤔. Can you tell me the documentary release date, please?

[@KUTProductionz]

@dr.clivejames4567 Absolutely please investigate. Microphone Check is out on Blu Ray right now. But the creator is planning another run in theaters in major cities. Microphonecheck.com

[@patrickstromann3836]

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

[@KUTProductionz]

@@patrickstromann3836 😅

[@allthingsdarrelld]

All actual facts!

[@vana.mitchell6788]

To the production team, who really builds the best bundles, which coast, to eras??

[@KAVIARDREAMZ]

You’re making my head hurt fam… Jimmy Castor himself said his rhythms and percussion sets were latin (puerto rican) influenced. People tend to also forget … HIP-HOP IS A CULTURE …. NOT A GENRE!!! So please KNOCK IT OFF!!!

[@KUTProductionz]

@KAVIARDREAMZ 😅 Yeah ok. Then go away.

[@alstone5005]

What hip hop break beat was Latin influenced? What song? What beat? What artist? This is desperation. Desparcito

[@KUTProductionz]

Yeah right. Take something for that headache. Origins and Creating. Point blank. Microphone Check Documentary go watch it.

[@KAVIARDREAMZ]

@@alstone5005 The Fact that I said “Jimmy Castor” and you’re questioning “which hip-hop break beat” is REALLY SUSPECT!!

[@alstone5005]

@@KAVIARDREAMZ No child what is SUSPECT is your absolute failure to acknowledge a specific breakbeat that was used in the creation phase of hip hop that sounds REMOTELY inspired by anything other than Black American music of the time on your own. You parrot what a liar said when Latin music had little to zero impact on hip hops creational phase and Clearly Black music seems to impact Spanish music

[@djrevp8762]

PRAISE KING JESUS YOU SEE HIW GOD WORK HE BEVER FAILS ❤

[@NearGuttersPath]

Boyd Rice was the first to use a turn table as an instrument in the early 70s and before James Brown, the original Rap acts were sampling German electronic band Kraftwerk "Go online look up *Kraftwerk* everything we doing is past work." - KRS1 And lets put this bullshit to bed about how "black people created rock and roll" When you credit the Blues as the only influence on RnR, you're engaging in the "erasure" your community constantly cries about. Celtic Folk played by Appalachian immigrants in the 18th century had more of an influence on the musical structure of RnR. Also, I feel bad for people who got into Hip Hop after Burger King started using it in jingles. Hip Hop died when Nelly put out Country Grammar.

[@KUTProductionz]

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[@KUTProductionz]

We all know Kraftwerk got sampled to make Planet Rock. Watch the link get up to speed, Lord Jamar.

[@NearGuttersPath]

@@KUTProductionz For sure real ones know the history, but you got 30 and 40 somethings out here who start signing "this is how we do it" when they hear Slick Rick.

[@patrickstromann3836]

White tears are my favorite tears. And my favorite method of extracting that sweet white nectar is by correcting history, and taking back what's ours. So, keep crying. 🙂

[@KUTProductionz]

@@patrickstromann3836 😂

[@forbeatssake1530]

Michael Viner who created Incredible Bongo Band was white, Bob James is white. Breakbeat Lou Flores who created the Ultimate Breaks & Beats series is latino. This is a quote from a Redbull interview "We’ll fast forward to ’73. In ’73 many block parties started - back then we called them jams - and there were always dance competitions. And as I remember it - I can’t talk for the whole state of New York - but I remember that it was mostly Latinos at them. In ’73 we started the dance competitions and instead of fighting, we danced. August 11 was the date [Kool] Herc started to play records in a different way. But what I’ll say is, if it wasn’t for Latin blood, hip-hop wouldn’t exist."

[@cesarbaca5297]

So true bro 👊🏽

[@KUTProductionz]

@forbeatssake1530 Microphone Check Documentary you'll learn some new things. Respect to Bob James and anyone thay got sampled. We're taking origins that's all. And many predate 1973.

[@KUTProductionz]

​@cesarbaca5297 Microphone check Documentary go watch then come back and let's discuss that's all bro. We talking creation and origins. Peace.

[@forbeatssake1530]

@@KUTProductionz ​​⁠​⁠​⁠I was responding to what you said at 4:04. Breaks came from music from all over the world by people from all different backgrounds, it’s significant to the “origins”. I will def check out the documentary when I can. I’ve been watching the KZbin MichaelWayneTV channel that was renamed ‘The Culture Since '71’ for a very long time. It will be interesting to see how the documentary narrative compares to what’s been covered in that channel.

[@KUTProductionz]

@forbeatssake1530 'The Culture Since 71' I'll check that out aswell. Ok. Early on Im sure the original breaks were from black American, Funk, R An B and etc. Because that's what was heard from the parents record collections of the time. Then digging for other are breaks followed up as you start searching for rare grooves. I guess it's about the people that's doing it as opposed to the records being used. Like Bob James is mad dope I got his records! He's white but brothers sampled his music. But that don't make Bob a creator of Hip Hop. Hip Hop dudes used "Nautilus and turned into Hip Hop. Respect to Bob- He is dope and respected. Hopefully this helps. I think we have slightly different views on it but I'm down to dialog about. Peace to you

[@therealsolomontheta9801]

Muhammad Ali is a guest in the house of boxing, Michael Jordan is a guest of basketball. Shall I go on?

[@KUTProductionz]

😅

[@senorc4416]

they’ll tell you they invented everything while speaking English, attend Christian churches and practice capitalism 😂

[@mtwadamelaijogo1110]

Please don't. Whites DID NOT create fighting with fists only, and the only time they were the best at it was when they controlled it as a business and excluded blacks.

[@mtwadamelaijogo1110]

​@@senorc4416we speak English because our ancestors were brought over here in chains. What do you expect us (or anyone else) to do in the same situation?? Stop acting like you don't know how blacks are treated in this country. What average black person would you like to trade places with?? 😂

[@henrycruz4966]

Go on since you’re a know it all

[@ev8318]

Shut up if you don't know what you talking about. Tariq said Cornbread brought graffiti to NY, well that's incorrect. Checkout the graffiti in The Westside Story movie that was filmed in 1960 and then debut in theaters in 1961. Cornbread would be 7 years old in 1961. The play was created in 1957, which would make cornbread 4 years old. It's actual graffiti and not prop graffiti. Cornbread wasn't even born 1950 search title Original 1950 Myrtle & Wyckoff Ave Brooklyn NYC el Train Graffiti Photo Negative Here is more proof. copy and paste into search bar the title Foxie of 100 St. and other tags. Photo by Don Hogan Charles of The NY Times. 1964 the 1965 documentary, “Portrait of the South Bronx” which is available on YT

[@BigSheltv]

Are they speaking about the culture of hip hop or are they speaking about hip hop music in general

[@KUTProductionz]

Both. Because they're talking the elements also. It's just about creators and the origins

[@NycMarty]

This is to my Black and Pureto Ricans Brothers. You people need to stop talking about this b.s bcuz we are all God's Chosen people who are the real bloodline Israelites. All the Israelites went into slavery, and in God's eyes, no one is bigger than the other. God is only taking 12000 people from each tribe, when Mashayach as the World knows as Christ come back for his ppl. The So- call black americans, Jamaicans, and Haitians came over here on slaves ships together. You ppl need to get right with Mashayach before it too late bcuz we are living in the last days. The so- call black americans were dropped off in americans to open doors for the other tribes to come here and live.

[@dugnice]

This whole conversation is silly because it ain't that serious. No one disputes that Hip Hop came from black culture, but others DID help. Black people be so focused on the PAST that they can't get right in the PRESENT.

[@KUTProductionz]

@dugnice To you it may not be. Do you how much black history got erased changed and obliterated. So just stay on subject fam. Microphone Chexk Documentary. That's all.

[@alstone5005]

No they did not help in the creation. They participated after the fact period. Hip hop is and was created by BLACK AMERICANS PERIOD

[@djrevp8762]

PRAISE KING JESUS IM WRITE A BOOK AND IM GOING TO VIDEO TAPE THE EXPERIENCES IM IN A DOCUMENTARY FOUNDING FATHERS UNTOLD STORY OF HIP HOP IM UNDER MY DJ FATHER MASTER D AKA DJ LANCE WITH WHITE SHIRT ❤

[@KUTProductionz]

@djrevp8762 Amazing! I've been trying to remember that documentary title! I've seen clips of it. But gotta watch the whole thing. Yes write the book. I'll support it.

[@djrevp8762]

PRAISE KING JESUS lm from BROOKLYN ny and was there in the 70s bought break beats as dj master P AND my bri dj MARKIE D we were KIDS Every jam l went to from the BLOCK party to park it was always black Americans Djs mcs b boys like dj flash said as the years progressed they join😂 bro theyre a tube video with Pr b boy batch said and l do quote colon colon hold up Pr didn't create hip hop at all it was my African American brothers that did it colon was pissed and silent further dj Charlie CHASE mc Ruby D mc whipper whip all said the same thing keep in mind they joined the black crews to be down 😂❤ you bro KING JESUS is GOD

[@KUTProductionz]

@djrevp8762 Bro you were there. Put a video telling what you saw first hand. Document it now G. #salute

[@pavavision4695]

@@djrevp8762 did you go to the Parties in Taylor White, Bushwick Park, Fort Greene, Coney Island, Sunset Park... you didn't see Any Rockers Uprocking ??? You didnt See any FMDs, Majestics, Dynasty Rockers, Together We Chill, Devils Rebels...??? There was very Few Breakers in Brooklyn in that Time. Most Breakers are from Uptown & the Bronx in Brooklyn aka Planet Rock 95% were Uprocking 🎶💯🎶 to el Barrio Boogaloo and the Latin Hustle 💯 Go listen listen 2 a CHOLLY ROCK from the BX...A True NYC Musix And Dance Historian from the Black Spades. 💯♠️💯 Kings Jesús means the Truth and Little Homie you aint speaking real facts 💯 only Half Truths...Puerto Ricans never said we created Hip Hop...it's 50/50 💯 Lames aka Undercover Haters take an interview and twist words around since its sooooo easy to brain wash a woke society of young mindless kids that dont know the Harsh Reality of Life... Unfortunately the Lord Himself got Real Kings bringing Real Knowledge still Living that know about NYC Gang Culture aka Hip Hop...🎶💯♠️👑❤️💯🎶💯 Dont listen 2 these Fake Black Americans that Never lived that NYC LIFE in the 60-90s. "LEYENDS RECOGNIZE LEGENDS" NVK718

[@senorc4416]

The creation argument gets weird when you have to explain who runs it. How is inventing a flex when you’re begging to be let in a house you claim to have built?

[@KUTProductionz]

@@senorc4416 Lame attempt at deflection. Colonizer always rapes, pillage and steal so what's new. But the origins and original creators is that topic at hand. Now say who created. Say it!!!

[@senorc4416]

@@KUTProductionz renters/workers will never value ownership. Once you do better you’ll understand

[@KUTProductionz]

@@senorc4416 Once you stay on subject, you'll understand

[@senorc4416]

@@KUTProductionz You weren’t raised to value ownership so you insisting on only speaking of origin makes sense.

[@KUTProductionz]

@senorc4416 You don't know me. Stay on subject lol.

[@KUTProductionz]

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[@KUTProductionz]

Here's the link you to get caught up⬆️

[@ryrilo5078]

Why do you think "black people" means just black American? Jamaicans are black. And you can name the black Caribbean pioneers. Koke la Rock was Herc's m.c so why reference him?

[@KUTProductionz]

@ryrilo5078 Because what I'm seeing others aren't viewing it as such bro. And we're talking origins that's all. Everyone definitely joined and made some great contributions.

[@ryrilo5078]

@@KUTProductionz black refers to black ppl regardless of where in the world they're from is what i'm saying..Jamaicans are black. In terms of who created hip hop..tell me at what point was hip hop created? Or has it been in a process of creation like evolution. I think there's a difference between "who set the foundations?" and "who created it?" On a building site the ppl that set the foundations are part of the creation process along with the electricians that come in at the end of thr project. Together they create the construction.

[@KUTProductionz]

@ryrilo5078 I feel you bothers like Pete Rock and Busta Rhymes are make a distinction allnof a sudden. I have no beef with any people of color that would be dumb. It's just an origins of Hip Hop creation thing. Microphone Check Documentary check it out.

[@alstone5005]

There are zero Caribbean artists that do not acknowledge BLACK AMERICANS are who they learned hip hop from. You are making up lies for inclusion

[@KUTProductionz]

@@alstone5005 Go listen to Pete Rock. I'm not saying it. You are not in the loop. Now run on.

[@xrpuertorican4472]

Who gives a damn who created it. My main concern is the sorry genre it has become. I wouldn't be proud of that.

[@KUTProductionz]

😅

[@KUTProductionz]

@xrpuertorican4472 Respectfully we're just talking origins and that matters. But I do feel what you're saying though.

[@xrpuertorican4472]

@@KUTProductionz Word.

[@AnimalAlmighty]

@@xrpuertorican4472We Care. When your people stop trying to gentrify it then we can stop talking about the origins.

[@xrpuertorican4472]

@@AnimalAlmighty Since we are going there. Don't gentrify my tax dollars for your reparations. We good?

[@juangronedaradikalnegron]

Whose telling you that?

[@KUTProductionz]

KRS-ONE

[@VilVi-rv4gc]

​@@KUTProductionzniggis in Brooklyn was puncing objects and beat boxing first