You're Playing Papal States WRONG In EU4

EU4 made the Papal States one of the most insane nations to play, with extremely great expansion possibilities and modifiers to back it up.
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Eu4 Lions of the North Origins leviathan Emperor DLC, Dharma, Rule Britannia, Cradle of Civilization, Third Rome, Mandate of Heaven, Rights of Man, Mare Nostrum, The Cossacks, Common Sense, El Dorado, Art of War, Res Publica, Wealth of Nations, and Conquest of Paradise.
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[@LudietHistoria]

2nd part of this campaing here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX6uc2l8YpWHqtk

[@johnnyboy3410]

keep the wallet, i want an Ayutthaya video

[@financecommonsense962]

You think Romanians are good pocket pickers ? Try young 12 year olds from Naples.

[@ZDarabos]

Jokes on you, my wallet has zero ducats.

[@Yes-qj4bi]

Could you please do some kind of crusader video on Easter

[@Yes-qj4bi]

@@financecommonsense962 The blonde ones are especially great at taking suitcases and then they somehow turn them into frogs

[@EibeKaktus7]

i like when u give historical background to the nations/regions ur playing

[@shabkablab]

I like Ludi's videos for historical reviews - thank you for some educational part of content

[@LudietHistoria]

Glad you like them!

[@TangoPenguin16]

Indeed, id like to see him do more historical context at the begining of his videos.

[@lubu2960]

always cool to learn while playing

[@lyonard9226]

The Papal State is such a super strong nation in eu4, I enjoyed it so much when I played my first Papal State - Kingdom of God run. Conquering all of Italy in a few decades with no coalition and roleplaying are just insane.

[@petersall1055]

Did you Alt+F4 every time you didnt get Curia Controller?

[@lyonard9226]

@@petersall1055 I admit I did

[@TheBlackopsDS]

That history lesson was so good I won't lobby as hard for the Philippines today

[@Wergoheb]

Okay, but Pinoy strongest race tho... right?

[@emanuels.pezente1899]

Salutes from Turvo, Santa Catarina, Brasil, my brother in Christ! May God bless you

[@LudietHistoria]

obrigado!

[@fernandohellmann2580]

Garai tu ta muito longe de casa

[@JoseSantos-bf3kz]

I would love to see you continuing this run. Such a good start, this has potential to be so great.

[@threath4]

Man the history lesson was so cool.

[@yocoruno]

Really enjoyed the historical intro, man. Have a nice week!

[@ZombolicBand]

Love the history lesson! It paints a nice background👍🏻

[@matthewjohnson7398]

Loved the historical element to this video mate! Super interesting! Great guide too, I’d love to see you continue the run!

[@ssgtpart6408]

My man Ludi! Keep up the awesome videos!

[@jorgemartin4447]

I love the history intros Ludi

[@user-is3jk7nf5t]

I love the more historical focus you've been giving your videos lately!

[@peachprincess758]

Can’t wait for your history lesson channel :-)

[@LudietHistoria]

Very soon!

[@aeronaut8088]

Great Idea!

[@peachprincess758]

❤

[@MMWALSH98]

@@LudietHistoria If this isn't a joke I'll sub day 1

[@ethanstrong]

love the historical background you give. Large part why I play the game and why you're my #1 go-to for some nation inspiration. 👏👍

[@wilhelmrk]

I would change one part about the opening strategy: If you are stuck waiting for Venice or Naples, you could fit in a humiliation war against Florence or another rival to fulfill the age objective quicker. Optional: If possible, try to get a foothold in North Africa from Tlemcen for the "presence on two continents" modifier, you might be able to achieve this with your Castillian alliance on Tunis or Morrocco as well by being called into the war as an ally.

[@zuludude2]

for pirates you can just use the anti-piracy fleet order, it blocks slave raids too, and even if they overwhelm the number of ships you have on the mission it still reduces how much devastation they cause.

[@TheBonecrusherz]

Great, thanks for uploading this video 3 days after I "finished" my papal state run 🙃

[@FernandoMGZ]

Best EU4 youtuber, greetings from viscay!

[@LudietHistoria]

Hello there!

[@peachprincess758]

❤

[@CatladyAyaki]

Ludi is the BEST EU4 KZbinr!!!!

[@angelgx21]

I really liked the initial historical context, i would like to see It in coming videos.

[@jmniskanen]

Like the Vic3 music in the background.

[@skyhcsgostuffandmore8257]

I luv this historic context. I guess we are all some kind auf history nerds XD. Keeep on going

[@sergeantmajor_gross]

I recommend giving a cardinal to one of your vassals which means you get it later for free

[@Jannes-pj4cd]

History lessons by Ludi are very educational and entertaining

[@D4v3Serious]

MORE HISTORY PLEASE!

[@diegopirrureinagaydelciber8789]

We need a second part

[@aang2976]

If you go espionage and divine u have a really good policy and ae impact lowerd even further

[@maurodamelio727]

I literally started a campaign with the papacy this morning 😂

[@victormartins8654]

Ludi video today is a good day

[@crowbarviking3890]

Recently saw a video how you can get a random custom nation to play as when you get the dhimmi catasstrophy when playing the ottomans.

[@minecraftherobrine1234]

Lol i was just about to start a campaign with the papal states

[@LudietHistoria]

have fun bro

[@XD-bm2co]

this is so weird everytime i randomly play a nation you release a video on how to play them a few days later

[@ScorpionCHAM]

hey that's a super good start ... it would be sad to stop there ... where is the second part like goal ???

[@Daedwartin2]

To give people an idea of just what is meant by New Administration(and to explain that whole bit on the events before the lombards)...when the Western Roman Empire "fell"(a statement that even historians have difficulty defining as it first requires one to define what one means by that to begin with), the WRE's Capital was....Milan. Not Rome: Milan. When Odoacer conquered Italy, it had been so for a century. The WRE moves his residence to Ravenna shortly...and then promptly that place gets conquered and made his capital. It is not until 493 when Theodoric conquers Italy that Rome is capital again...a date that has by then actually crossed over the 2 century mark since the move to Milan. If you think that is bad for Rome....well actually, Theodoric had actually been the best thing for the City of Rome in a VERY long time. You see, the Roman Elite had spent the last several centuries basically ignoring Rome(really any of the cities) in favor of their countryside estates in what would become the precursor to manorialism(NOT feudalism. Manorialism is an economic system, Feudalism is a Political system. There is no requirement for a manorialist economy to be governed under a feudal political system). As a side effect, the institutions of the Roman State had become decrepit and ignored. Theodoric meanwhile wasn't a Roman Elite. He was a Goth who had just conquered Italy. A Goth who had likely been told about how a proper Roman State was one with such institutions and the like. So naturally, he proceeds to basically just bring these various institutions back to life and starts heavily investing into the cities of Italy again. From what we know, this was actually very successful. The Average Roman of Italy LOVED the fact it happened. Theodoric's biggest issue politically ended up being his own gothic elite, not the Roman people. You see, while large numbers of the Gothic elite were quite happy with the idea of being literally better Romans than the Roman Elite(who got forced to start matching those efforts in a attempt to remain politically relevent)...an equally large faction was insistent on being as Gothic as Possible. Which is why Theodoric got assassinated by one. This is actually one of the pretexts used by Justinian to invade Italy, as Theodoric had been paying lip-serve to the idea that he was basically serving as a hereditary governor of Italy for Justinian, making it more difficult for such a invasion to be justified in the court of the ERE. This invasion turned out to be a bad idea. It is considered to have been one of the direct causes of why Italians stopped seeing themselves as Roman, as Justinian made lots of statements about how he was retaking Rome back from the Barbarians. But....as I pointed out, to many Italians, those "barbarians" had been better examples of Romans than actual Roman elite. They had invested considerably into reviving roman institutions and public infrastructure. Meanwhile, Justinian's main contribution had been to send in a army that proceeded to WRECK a bunch of public infrastructure "like a bunch of barbarians." If the Emperor is just going to send in barbarians and "Proper Romans" are Barbarians....then what does it even MEAN to be Roman? So when the Lombards come in and conquer Italy and its not a surprise that outside of Rome, Italians stopped seeing themselves as Roman.

[@bartlomiejrokita5844]

very interesting historical piece

[@lilleif4431]

I believe there is a policy between divine and innovative that gives an additional 20% manpower too.

[@jaco_9223]

i take it things have changed in one of the updates? im getting 96 AE if i try to sub naples with the subjugation casus belli as my first war in 1448 and a big coalition. I also lost a diplomat as soon as i subjugated them

[@besacciaesteban]

If i'm not mistaken, hunting pirates lowers the effect of raids in the area.

[@mjodorczuk]

Note, Ostroghoti is the name Visigoths used to call them, Visigoths are, on the other hand changed by an analogy, as they were called Vesi by Ostrogoths.

[@heroic5612]

a part two would be very nice to take the rest of italy

[@WiktorPytlak]

Ludi, as an experience player of UEIV do you think that Papal State have untapped potential? My opinion is that the Pope should have the bigger influance on Catholic Europe states and that influence should be challanged when the Protestant Reformation appears. I mean, catholic faith buffs are good but Pope as a state have minor influance on the Europe. Maybe it should be compared to the Emeror of HRE - maybe approving or dissaproving catholic rulers (something like Sejm mechanics in PLC), they should have more prestige and reputation and more impact on the behavior of the church estates - something like "sow discontent about cleregy" or "respect the rulers authority" etc. also the Papal State should be a little more stronger and have the ability to forge better alliances among Catholic Europe (maybe when the pope is nominated the Papal State got may got the alliance with the home country of new pope etc. That should give more flavor and would result in more accurate to reality papals influence among catholics. Now mechanics like excomunication are a joke. and Papal state is just a minor in Italian penincula and when you play it you have no impression that you play as a head of the Catholic Faith. What do you thing about that?

[@Robert-xx8jx]

Awesome

[@wendychan4012]

subtitles consistently turning "goths" into "gods". I dig it.

[@razvan1435]

12:00 or you can hunt for pirates with one ship and that would make them not raid your coast.

[@11DNA11]

0:08 The guy on the left looks like Danny Trejo

[@csalvo3653]

Why don’t you use the graphical improvement mod ? Does it have a bad effect for the game or do you just not like the looks of it ?

[@LudietHistoria]

not a fan of the look tbh bro

[@sanderscheel1924]

Im just wondering why the papal states has the clergy estate 🤷

[@tovarishlumberjack2356]

lovely little history lesson

[@giuseppepisano7398]

I have restarted it already at least 5 times and every time got Naples giving me 100 bucks and that was it. Is there something I am missing out when it comes to obtaining the CB?

[@LudietHistoria]

it's RNG, just alt+f4 when u get the 100 ducats and it will eventually give you the cb rather tahn the 100 ducats ^^

[@DonPedroman]

This video dropped while Twitter is full of images of Pope Francis in massive drip. truly the ways of the Lord are mysterious

[@triersero2763]

0:11 nah, they all disappeared at once like dwemers in TES

[@Dr3dinn]

I am just doing this run vassel feeding savoy, tolouse, byz and bulgaria..next syria and karaman.... 1200 dev 1520. Horrible mission tree compared to rest of the other nations.

[@1-ZombieMad]

Lets get part 2 on this 😊❤

[@peachprincess758]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@greentzz7822]

You forgot to vote for reforms in HRE !

[@FarsightAE]

Didnt Odoacer and later Theodoric consider themselves pretty much as romans and ruled as romans, even spending large amounts of money restoring the ancient roman infrastructure and monuments? As well as considered themselves essentially as vassals under eastern rome? Since Odoacer sought legitimacy from Constantinople and Theodoric later invaded at the urging of eastern rome? Odoacer was also magister militum in the western empire. If thats the case then wouldnt the ostrogoth invasion and conquest then essentially be a reunification of rome? That would make the gothic war a civil war and the coronation of Charlamagne a second split of the empire. I love theorising.

[@EndoftheTrain]

Going Divine and not taking Espionage is a travesty. The siege ability gets insane. Throw in Offensive and some spy network and you have 7 day siege ticks.

[@winser21]

I’m loving my Papal States campaign right now. I’m at about 3500 development in 1660 with a 450 ducat income. My goal was only to eliminate all Protestant nations and provinces, and now I’m trying to conquer all of Europe by the end of the game. Super fun.

[@pangs3798]

You streaming today ludi?

[@ohNojames]

I’ve never seen anyone actually vassalize Naples. Everyone always it’s not worth it the AE, but that honestly wasn’t too much

[@spoonsareoccasionallymadeo5728]

Wish there was an option to reform the Roman Empire as the Papacy, even if it wouldn't be the traditional Roman Empire other countries can form.

[@omermelih5760]

day 3, lanfang, i guess

[@yxolloxy3273]

so I suppose it's a meme and / or not very historical and whatnot; but the papal state is one of the nations I usually nocb byzantium with on the 11th of december. I detest a strong ottomans as the popeman edit: joning the hre has almost no downsides for the pope aside from the enabling you to attack other members; both the papacy and the kingdom of god reforms give fixed gov ranks; papacy is fixed to kingdom and kingdom of god is fixed to empire iirc so it doesn't restrict you to duchy level edit 2: you can also develop devastation away

[@Vhailor_Mithras]

I like to think the Goths turned Rome into Gotham for a time.

[@male272]

I"m near the end of my first Papal States campaign. I've never been able to take so much territory in Europe so quickly without a single coalition. You can stack the shit out of AE bonuses on top of Dip Rep and hate deflection through Ex-Com the Engine doesn't know what to do, and by the time you're done, if you've built right, then you have the most powerful Navy in the world and are cucking Portugal and Castile through Privateering their tasty New World gold, have taken the entire Carib Node and established an extremely strong Trade Company in the North of Africa that is part of the Sevilla leading to your domination of Valencia and ownership of Genoa. Using Eastern soft expansion...Ragusa should be your Vassal, giving you all trade power, Venice should be yours already, you've Vassalized and Marched the Knights, and given them Cyprus after the Vassalization and integration, and they've started claims on both Otto, and Otto or Mamluks, dependent on who hold the Levant...next stop, Tunis, then Alexandria, powering up to take on Otto...It's a great option for a campaign.

[@faruqiramzi2843]

nice

[@romaatwar]

No one ever suspects the Papal States. 😏

[@CMVBrielman]

C’mon, that last peace deal was signed in December! You know better than that.

[@ScorpionCHAM]

why is the paple states start with a real special form of owned provinces ? am i the only one who see a pipi here ? XD

[@Saw-th4uu]

Victoria 3 unable to change AI's government ,is it just me or bug?

[@mattroscoe1359]

Why did the map label Ireland as 'Scots'?

[@lagomorphcavy6132]

I culturally converted to Andalusian duing my Papal platthrough just for the ability to create holy orders.

[@IspettoreCatiponda1]

Didn't know Biggus Dickus was a byzantine general

[@LudietHistoria]

thats tribune biggus dickus to you sir

[@22slice]

I want to play a pacifist Papal States game, thoughts on how I'd go about that?

[@Baromanthefool]

watch Ludi not Co Florance when he attacked Aragon >.< y u do dis ludiiii

[@TheNoronist]

Austria rivaled me 😒 what a luck eh...

[@wouldntyouliketoknowdeli7640]

Just did a Papal States game to Western Rome game myself (with Catholic Byzantium as a vassal), I honestly prefer directly conquering land from Naples to subjugating them, it's a fair bit more AE but a lot less than what you'd get from taking HRE lands early, and a *lot* easier than fighting Venice. And besides, as the amazing Pope mans you can grab Espionage and get something ridiculous like -50%-60% AE reduction really orleans.

[@LudietHistoria]

You need 2 wars to fully annex the naples lands directly but only 1 war to subjugate them and integrate them after 10 yrs, overall vassalizing is getting those lands faster and for less penalties. With the AE being less and with you having half of italy already you can easily gobble up the north italians after.

[@classiclife7204]

Interesting how the people in Italy shrugged off the "Roman" Empire at the first opportunity, minus a few exclaves. Guess they didn't care about a Greek kingdom in far-off Anatolia. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@lookasetbella]

However, I prefer the first espionage ideas, thanks to this you can eat 3/4 of Venice and nobody cares :)

[@lideruploader6577]

Bro... LOVED the historty lecture bit. Please more. Much love from Mexico. 🥰

[@crumpterlord2154]

Papal states is best states

[@MarlosCanuel]

Dont forget to excommunicate people!

[@alatamore]

I can’t play the PayPal states wrong, if I’m not playing the PayPal states…

[@gopnik9991]

Enis

[@connorsorensen7272]

For those confused on the Goth talk and who's who I will explain. One is the ancestor of the modern emo and the other the ancestor of the big titty goth girl, you can judge which is closer to your heart.

[@dr.zeyadwagdy5359]

I'm breaking my fasting watching ludi play as the pope💀

[@noblenormie1179]

Bruh i Just noticed

[@MrPinkpiggie]

ludi make me sad

[@LudietHistoria]

why brother?

[@anti-mate407]

when i first started watching your videos, i was just trying to look for videos about niche nations in eu4. this is also how i stumbled onto the other big name paradox youtubers. but over the past 2 or so months i've come to realise I don't watch your videos just to keep finding rare meta playthroughs but to just simply enjoy your commentary. Tldr: came for the niche stayed for the ludi

[@bradleyn9360]

wtf is a shnipple dorp Ludi?

[@maxwalker1159]

!

[@iloveallah5960]

Are you sick? You don't look so good?

[@Lucasal1296]

I consider the eastern Greeks more roman than the Italians tbh. Once the Germans invaded the Italians changed entirely.

[@simont.4633]

How did they change entirely? Also, didn't the Greeks change too, from being under Ottoman rule for centuries?

[@WealthyJester98]

I have to disagree with the religious diplomats privilege. If you increase your relations with all catholic nations, they all get more papal influence, thus reducing your chance of becoming the papal controller. Btw I love the historical background you provide

[@aaron90omar]

I deeply enjoy the history lessons you give about any country/region you play. But when you talk gibberish whenever you perform an important action in the campaign is a deal-breaker to me.

[@drchaos2000]

it always bugs me that the papal states are the only nation in game that doesnt get any benefits from a religion

[@lemondelbosque7702]

Not to be pedantic, because i love you, but "millennia" is the plural of millennium. So saying "a millennium" is grammatically the same as saying "a countries"

[@Bavariandude123]

Why does the Pope have a clergy when he is the clergy?

[@LudietHistoria]

asking the real questions I see