You Won't Believe How This Guy Tries to Prove Noah's Ark

[@alexisfox2511]

Wow, it's almost like humans in ancient times looked up at the sky and named arrangements of stars after things they invented in their stories to make it easier to remember bullet points for telling the stories over generations.

[@WillRennar]

Kinda like those people who call the sun/moon/stars a divinely-designed clock...because they match up with the measurements of time we made _based on them._

[@sukonmiskunk5696]

not so much stories.. its more like a clock that shows our position in the galaxy.. as the Sun rises in a specific star sign, the last 2000 or so years was in Pisces hence why Christianity has 2 fish as the symbol. Jesus being the sun feeds the masses with 2 fishes, we call this the age of Pisces... it takes 72 years (72 virgins) for the sun to move 1 degree through the star sign.. it takes around 26,000 years to move through all 12 signs to come back to the one.. this is depicted in the stories of Hercules and his 12 feats.. Abraham and his 12 tribes.. Jesus and his 12 disciples.. the understanding of this allowed the farmers to know when to plant, when to harvest.. when the rains will come and so on..

[@alexisfox2511]

@@sukonmiskunk5696 Yeah... humans made up stories and assigned formations of stars to characters in those stories. All constellation names are from some mythology somewhere which is a made up, fictional tale that is passed down through the generations. The stories allow us to remember the constellations and the constellations also get to act as reminders for the stories by giving us bullet points to hit in the stories so that we don't have to remember the entire story just the bullet points and recraft the story from them each time it gets told. Thereby keeping the important points consistent through the generations while the unimportant fluff can fluctuate over time harmlessly.

[@ilmanti]

This is what people forget. Mythologies are often self-reinforcing over time, so someone tells a story of a thing, someone else makes fanart of the story, then someone else makes a story about the art and suddenly you have two stories that are essentially the same, separated by possibly hundreds of years or miles and people look at the two and wonder "how is it possible that we find similarities in these stories all over the place??" It's because they're based on each other. Then you name a constellation after your favorite character in the story, and the constellation becomes a god but it has a different hat, and now we're talking about how all religions seem to be connected. And there really are two answers you can come up with: 1. people have been sharing stories and making up their own fan fiction since the beginning of time, or 2. these stories are historically accurate because they exist in many cultures. Whichever you choose says a lot about which world view you hold. (The third option, of course, is ancient aliens.)

[@sukonmiskunk5696]

its really a very cleverly written science book hidden in allegory, the issue with people these days is they dont understand the myths behind the allegories.. and you see so called Christians thinking Jesus was an actual person and the book is a true account of history.. its how we get a whole bunch of delusional people thinking theyre gods chosen people..

[@tea_time_t]

"A crow is no different than a raven." I'm starting to see that science is not this man's strong point...

[@rickkwitkoski1976]

The flight feathers on birds' wings are called pinions. Ravens have 15 on each wing and crows have 14. So the difference between a raven and a crow is just a matter of "a pinion"!!!! LOLSSSS!

[@neil6093]

Thank you for mentioning that and no, science is what we heathens use to describe the universe around us!

[@Hoscitt]

@@rickkwitkoski1976 very good!

[@agrofindastation]

@@rickkwitkoski1976 moment he said that, I came looking for this comment!

[@prof.cecilycogsworth3204]

"A crow is no different than a raven." Edgar Allan Poe would like a word.

[@DaveF.]

"What star-sign are you? " "Dinosaur" "What?" "It's the one between unicorn and lizard.", points at random stars. "You just made that up!" "They're all made up."

[@davidturpin9135]

The thing that kills me the most is that astrology "froze" thousands of years ago and stopped accounting for precession. And it assumed all constellations were the same size and dropped one entirely to make it a nicer number. So it was NEVER correct even if you believe it was made for a good reason.

[@bookworm8368]

Actually... That makes a lot of sense.

[@hifijohn]

When I was young and was asked what sign I am i would say " no parking"

[@kj12351]

That would be the best flat Earth agument I'd ever head. To sad they can't even come up with that.

[@gnosticacademy]

From Marty Leeds: 1) I speak directly against the Bible being a history book. It is not. NONE of it is historical or to be taken at face value. Period. The Bible is a collection of stories/myths based on classic retellings of other ancient myths. Again... NONE OF IT IS HISTORY. The entire lecture from which this 5 minute snippet is from I discuss this at length. Every Sunday we show how these stories are exactly that... STORIES/MYTHS. NOT HISTORY. 2) I do not have a script (like you do), so when I said "The Raven/Crow" is the same, this was simply me mis-speaking. The Raven and Crow come from the Corvidae family, hence why the constellation is called CORVUS. 3) Why would fish need to be aboard the boat, i.e. Pisces? Obviously they wouldn't. Considering this is MYTH and a story relating to the stars, and NOTHING factual... the fact that you even mentioned this shows a total lack of understanding parable and allegory. NONE of this is historically happened. It is a STORY. Did Jonah spend 3 days in the belly of a whale? No, obviously not. Just like all the other wild and outrageous tales in the Bible, myths are written in such a fashion as to encode many layers of meaning. What is the whale Jonah spent time in? It's the constellation Cetus. Again... Nothing historical. Nothing factual. THEY ARE MYTHS/STORIES/PARABLES and ALLEGORIES. How you and this comment section can not understand such actually shows an enormous lack of understanding basic literary devices used within countless classical works of literature. These methods have been used by every great writer from Shakespeare to Edgar Allen Poe. 4) Camelopardlis is formed from the 2 words Camel and Leopard. Camelopardalis, from Greek kamelopardalis "a giraffe," a compound of kamelos "camel" for the long neck, and pardos "leopard, panther." 5) 4:25 and on: Wait, did you actually calculate the size of the boat??? Lol. Why? It's star study. You missed the entire point I was making in this video (That this IS MYTH) and claimed to your audience I was saying it was history. This is either you being insanely disingenuous or just plain retarded. "You would need a boat the size of Monaco?" For what? To fit a myth in it?? Lol. 6) 6:56 - "Literally a dove": Literally definition (informal use): used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while NOT BEING LITERALLY TRUE. 7) 9:03 - "Kind of running out of constellations, there's only 88." You mean to fit aboard an imaginary boat? A boat that ACTUALLY DOESN'T EXIST? Hahaha 8) "What about the lizards, and goats and Buffalo, Marty?" Well, Dan, let me say this again... considering this is just a MYTH and not meant to be a FACTUAL ACCOUNT OF ANYTHING... I guess I don't see the issue. Lol. 9) "I don't understand how somebody, hand on their heart, can say Noah's Ark is a true story... it makes no sense at all." I ask you, how did you get that from this video?? I am correlating elements from a story to ancient star patterns, and actually DENOUNCING any claim it is history. I make this point continually from the lecture this 5 minute video was taken from. I even laugh at people who claim this to be true. The fact that you, and this comment section, couldn't understand that, or even just deduce it from this presentation is truly astounding.

[@AmirBrooks]

"Don't forget we gotta bring the leopards and the lynx" I think he'll find Camelopardis is a giraffe, not a leopard. I guess after straining his brain with all those mental gymnastics, it's easy to confuse the two.

[@blitzwinters5687]

"Corvus means 'Crow' in Latin" - Okay, I'm with you so far. I don't know if it's actually true, but I'm willing to accept that. - "So, crow is no different than a raven." - THE FUCK IT ISN'T! They might be within the same family of birds, but they are very different. And I'm not even a bird person. Fuck.

[@grahvis]

Corvus is the genus of the family Corvidae which includes ravens and crows etc.

[@epictnt]

Lol, YES

[@andystokes8702]

He appears to be arguing that it was only necessary to have one pair of each 'kind' of creature on the ark - that would at least drastically reduce the total number of animals required. The problem he now has is explaining how one pair of Corvus (crow kind) managed to diversify into 133 different species, everything from ravens, rooks, crows, jackdaws. jays, magpies etc all within the last 4,500 years without using the term evolution. I wonder if he believes this happened with all 'kinds'? One pair of beetle kind have managed to become 350,000 separate species in the same time period ranging in size from 1/3rd of a millimeter to 11 centimetres, largest being 330 times larger than the smallest.

[@leehenry5764]

Magpie are also related to Crow and Raven.

[@Alex-xt1rr]

@@andystokes8702 the logistic problem with 2 of each kind: the poor guys that had to run all the way to Australia just to bring back two kangaroos and two eucalyptus trees (with koalas) while racing against the clock (impending flood). Probably the return trip was faster due them to being chased by Emus.

[@jay70328]

I had a guy in my house fixing my windows a few years ago. He told me the reason people close to the equator have dark eyes, while people further north have blue eyes. Apparently it's because the dark eyed people turned right when they got off the ark and the blue eyed ones went left. This guy was a grown man. I just walked away in disbelief.

[@sigisoltau6073]

Well. That's something. There was a person I met in the comment section of a video about the volcano that erupted last year. This person said that if enough lava built up it would form a black hole. I think I lost a few brain cells just writing that. Another person said that rockets don't work in space.

[@dertythegrower]

It's got to do with the amount of UV your pupils get. I laughed at your comment but the 3rd sentence has me confused.. did he really say that, or was that your personal joke here?

[@ianbunn8982]

@@sigisoltau6073 I mean technically they're not wrong.....

[@hop-skip-ouch8798]

This begs the question, which way did you walk and what is the colour of your eyes?

[@dertythegrower]

Basically.. if you made up your 3rd part, and he was talking about the UV / skin color of africans to europeans.. then yes, he was schooling you.... here is the data, bro. "Lighter-colored eyes have less pigment to protect against sun damage and UV radiation compared to darker-colored eyes." My eyes are green in summer and usually get bluish green if i sit inside more like during winter times in cold.

[@Lux7355]

Oh bless his heart, I love how he uses the word "hemisphere" without a hint of irony. 😆

[@Jordan-Ramses]

Obsession with numbers is a symptom of mental illness. You know, the way he does it. Making crazy random connections and thinking it makes sense.

[@bloozee]

Flat earthers from around the globe will be dismayed!

[@johnseven3695]

@@bloozee you mean the "world wide global flat Earth community"

[@bnease007]

I agree! I’d argue that many who read , watch and listen to the Tales from Flat Earth believers have heard their favorite storytellers bandy about the term, “hemisphere” without once realizing what they’re implying (as if that isn’t a common FE trait).

[@olivier2553]

@@johnseven3695 you mean the "world wide flatal flat Earth community"

[@jnewcomb]

I feel sad. This guy has clearly spent a LOT of time thinking about this. Imagine what he could do if he read a non-fiction book.

[@tempestive1]

Wasted*

[@brianstrutter1501]

He did read a non-fiction book

[@jnewcomb]

@@brianstrutter1501 How to Spin Conspiracies and Influence People on KZbin?

[@albinopolarbear8229]

Or if he wrote a fiction book

[@Onio_Saiyan]

So what you're saying is... Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy isn't nonfiction?

[@mesmereyesthesimpleminded9607]

The number of times this man reveals his own idiocy is actually hilarious, he claims the earth is flat yet he shows an amazing example of the globe earth rotating, he UNIRONICALLY SAYS THAT A CROW AND A RAVEN ARE THE SAME ANIMAL, and says that the reason the piano is called the piano is bc 88/28=3.14 (which is false; the piano was originally called the pianoforte, which is Italian for "quiet-loud").

[@KorbinX]

Obviously this dude(not you) never took music history 😂🤣😂

[@sebastianortega1938]

Hey, tomayto tomahto, potayto potahto, crow and raven. It all makes perfect sense.

[@ianobrien3248]

A single raven set free from Noah flapped its wings to dry out the land. That was how I heard his message. Unless they can prove a single raven flapping its wings dried the entire planet from a 40 day deluge then I will call this myth busted.

[@24flyingcats84]

And he talks about the southern hemisphere of sky 🙄

[@Llortnerof]

@@ianobrien3248 Nah, just take it at face value. A single raven flapping its wings dried the Earth. Now imagine how big of a flood that could possibly have been. Certainly explains how some farmer with no clue about sailing could build a boat big enough for it, doesn't it?

[@csabadns]

So, basically, The Flood, didn't happen on Earth, it happened in the sky? That's an interesting turn of events.

[@nonna_sof5889]

And is still there?

[@Nago15]

It makes sense, because space is full of water above the crystal dome.

[@glennpearson9348]

Well, if you believe that there is water above the firmament, then it would be susceptible to flooding, I suppose.

[@kellydalstok8900]

The apologists will twist themselves in incredible Escher-like pretzels to worm themselves out of getting debunked and still fail.

[@petergaskin1811]

Well, if you deny gravity, of course rain must be able to fall upwards. Density, right?

[@paradanglers]

Cameleopardis is a giraffe not a leopard, would have loved to see his reaction when someone pointed that out to him!

[@Thanos1908]

"Spotted camel" :)

[@markiefella]

Was looking for this comment!

[@alifloydtv]

Now I want there to be constellations called Folivora Major and Minor, honouring my own snoozy spirit animal...

[@nenmaster5218]

I'm worried: This channels subs dont seem to grow. Am i the only one who noticed the odd Stagnation?

[@gnosticacademy]

Camelopardalis constellation lies in the northern hemisphere. Its name comes from the Latin derivation of the Greek word for “giraffe.” Taken apart, the word camelopardalis means camel (Greek kamēlos) and leopard (pardalis). Lol.

[@BamaNick]

I like how doesn’t realize constellations were named by humans and not a name that came pre-packaged with the universe.

[@gnosticacademy]

From Marty Leeds: 1) I speak directly against the Bible being a history book. It is not. NONE of it is historical or to be taken at face value. Period. The Bible is a collection of stories/myths based on classic retellings of other ancient myths. Again... NONE OF IT IS HISTORY. The entire lecture from which this 5 minute snippet is from I discuss this at length. Every Sunday we show how these stories are exactly that... STORIES/MYTHS. NOT HISTORY. 2) I do not have a script (like you do), so when I said "The Raven/Crow" is the same, this was simply me mis-speaking. The Raven and Crow come from the Corvidae family, hence why the constellation is called CORVUS. 3) Why would fish need to be aboard the boat, i.e. Pisces? Obviously they wouldn't. Considering this is MYTH and a story relating to the stars, and NOTHING factual... the fact that you even mentioned this shows a total lack of understanding parable and allegory. NONE of this is historically happened. It is a STORY. Did Jonah spend 3 days in the belly of a whale? No, obviously not. Just like all the other wild and outrageous tales in the Bible, myths are written in such a fashion as to encode many layers of meaning. What is the whale Jonah spent time in? It's the constellation Cetus. Again... Nothing historical. Nothing factual. THEY ARE MYTHS/STORIES/PARABLES and ALLEGORIES. How you and this comment section can not understand such actually shows an enormous lack of understanding basic literary devices used within countless classical works of literature. These methods have been used by every great writer from Shakespeare to Edgar Allen Poe. 4) Camelopardlis is formed from the 2 words Camel and Leopard. Camelopardalis, from Greek kamelopardalis "a giraffe," a compound of kamelos "camel" for the long neck, and pardos "leopard, panther." 5) 4:25 and on: Wait, did you actually calculate the size of the boat??? Lol. Why? It's star study. You missed the entire point I was making in this video (That this IS MYTH) and claimed to your audience I was saying it was history. This is either you being insanely disingenuous or just plain retarded. "You would need a boat the size of Monaco?" For what? To fit a myth in it?? Lol. 6) 6:56 - "Literally a dove": Literally definition (informal use): used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while NOT BEING LITERALLY TRUE. 7) 9:03 - "Kind of running out of constellations, there's only 88." You mean to fit aboard an imaginary boat? A boat that ACTUALLY DOESN'T EXIST? Hahaha 8) "What about the lizards, and goats and Buffalo, Marty?" Well, Dan, let me say this again... considering this is just a MYTH and not meant to be a FACTUAL ACCOUNT OF ANYTHING... I guess I don't see the issue. Lol. 9) "I don't understand how somebody, hand on their heart, can say Noah's Ark is a true story... it makes no sense at all." I ask you, how did you get that from this video?? I am correlating elements from a story to ancient star patterns, and actually DENOUNCING any claim it is history. I make this point continually from the lecture this 5 minute video was taken from. I even laugh at people who claim this to be true. The fact that you, and this comment section, couldn't understand that, or even just deduce it from this presentation is truly astounding.

[@code_monkey_steve]

"I think the fish will probably be ok in a flood" Actually, the sudden change in salinity would have killed all the fish and other marine animals, and probably the plants too.

[@kartashuvit4971]

Why do these nutjobs believe aquatic creatures are invincible because they live in the ocean?

[@izzyreel6730]

So you know? …for a fact that the flood was made of “fresh” water??? How so? Where’d y’all get all the water from? Rain that god just made, right? Or did it fall through the holes in the firmament? Why couldn’t god adjust the salinity? It’s god after all… But the most curious thing is, that god killed “every”living thing that wasn’t on the ark. Why? According to Genesis, god was mad at the people? Why wipe out the innocent animals? And why didn’t god know that he’s gonna have to wipe people out? He’s omnipotent and omniscient… isn’t he? So he knew this was going to have to do this all along… right? But made everything just to destroy it all anyways?. Drowning every single thing! Painful way to go. Could have just blinked them out of existence, couldn’t he? Seems a rather cruel and capricious god to punish everyone and everything for the sins of the few. Just doesn’t make sense … Unless .. it’s a made up ark-load of shit?! Maybe?

[@informationyes]

@@izzyreel6730 Im mean as soon as arguments of well god could just use his power to solve x problem then it completely defeats the whole point of the them needing an arc in the first place on top all the reasons none of this makes sence

[@YensR]

Never thought of that, that is actually a great point that can by itself refute the whole idea of a global (or flat-al?!) flood.

[@franklinbarrett4630]

Not to mention the extreme turbulence on a global scale.

[@Eirran2]

I think Marty has left out the most important proof here: He said that Argo Navis was 28 times larger than the present largest constellation Hydra, but FORGOT to mention the obvious fact that that is the number of phalanges on the hands, just proving it is the hands of God at work here. How did you miss that one, Marty, oh dear, oh dear 😅

[@craigcorson3036]

Not 28 times. 28 %.

[@MonkeyJedi99]

And there are 88 names constellations! Divide the name constellations by the percentage that Argo Navis is larger than Hydra, and you get a number in the vague neighborhood of pi! Therefore, flood, hollow Earth, ancient aliens, and the Illuminati! Aha!

[@sentinel_nightcrawler]

@@MonkeyJedi99 and most of them are fake (if what your saying isn't sarcasm)

[@MonkeyJedi99]

@@sentinel_nightcrawler Oh, I was definitely going for derisive parody.

[@sentinel_nightcrawler]

@@MonkeyJedi99 right

[@stevewhite6861]

It was in part the ark story that turned me against religion, I was about 8 or 9, I live I Hull and I used to watch the ships being built and launched in Hessle boat yard, the ship builders were obviously highly skilled, that was apparent even to an 8 year old kid. When the story of the ark was brought up I questioned the teacher about the ability of an old man and his untrained family to build such a massive ship, I was told to be quiet but I persisted and was thrown out of the class, that happened regularly after that, I realised a bit later that I was an atheist.

[@sebastianortega1938]

As a kid I was aware that most of those stories were either fables, myths or just legends. The Bible is neither a history nor a science book. It is a great compilation of books though, outdated for the most part but just as with every other ancient book it's all about the morals of the different stories and that's it.

[@WayneBraack]

Hey! I have a similar story. When I was young my parents sent me to Sunday school in the summertime when school was out. I too asked a lot of questions about the stories they told us. Because, probably like you, I was curious and wanted to participate. Like you I was also told to shut up and listen don't ask questions. I too persisted and was kicked out of Sunday School. I also ended up an atheist.

[@zacharyteibel8580]

Questions are weapons against religion.

[@bradlevantis913]

I will say it’s kind of sad to read these comments. I went to a Catholic school. We were encouraged to ask questions about these stories because everyone knew it was fiction. A fable written to convey a message. To think otherwise is delusional.

[@gezzarandom]

That’s what made me laugh about school, religion would tell you one thing, then down the hall, science would debunk and contradict it. 🤣

[@theodorevoudrislis6103]

Well, he has a wild imagination. We have got to give him that. Kudos, Marty. No need to mention that it was us humans, who named all the constellations and celestial bodies.

[@gnosticacademy]

From Marty Leeds: 1) I speak directly against the Bible being a history book. It is not. NONE of it is historical or to be taken at face value. Period. The Bible is a collection of stories/myths based on classic retellings of other ancient myths. Again... NONE OF IT IS HISTORY. The entire lecture from which this 5 minute snippet is from I discuss this at length. Every Sunday we show how these stories are exactly that... STORIES/MYTHS. NOT HISTORY. 2) I do not have a script (like you do), so when I said "The Raven/Crow" is the same, this was simply me mis-speaking. The Raven and Crow come from the Corvidae family, hence why the constellation is called CORVUS. 3) Why would fish need to be aboard the boat, i.e. Pisces? Obviously they wouldn't. Considering this is MYTH and a story relating to the stars, and NOTHING factual... the fact that you even mentioned this shows a total lack of understanding parable and allegory. NONE of this is historically happened. It is a STORY. Did Jonah spend 3 days in the belly of a whale? No, obviously not. Just like all the other wild and outrageous tales in the Bible, myths are written in such a fashion as to encode many layers of meaning. What is the whale Jonah spent time in? It's the constellation Cetus. Again... Nothing historical. Nothing factual. THEY ARE MYTHS/STORIES/PARABLES and ALLEGORIES. How you and this comment section can not understand such actually shows an enormous lack of understanding basic literary devices used within countless classical works of literature. These methods have been used by every great writer from Shakespeare to Edgar Allen Poe. 4) Camelopardlis is formed from the 2 words Camel and Leopard. Camelopardalis, from Greek kamelopardalis "a giraffe," a compound of kamelos "camel" for the long neck, and pardos "leopard, panther." 5) 4:25 and on: Wait, did you actually calculate the size of the boat??? Lol. Why? It's star study. You missed the entire point I was making in this video (That this IS MYTH) and claimed to your audience I was saying it was history. This is either you being insanely disingenuous or just plain retarded. "You would need a boat the size of Monaco?" For what? To fit a myth in it?? Lol. 6) 6:56 - "Literally a dove": Literally definition (informal use): used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while NOT BEING LITERALLY TRUE. 7) 9:03 - "Kind of running out of constellations, there's only 88." You mean to fit aboard an imaginary boat? A boat that ACTUALLY DOESN'T EXIST? Hahaha 8) "What about the lizards, and goats and Buffalo, Marty?" Well, Dan, let me say this again... considering this is just a MYTH and not meant to be a FACTUAL ACCOUNT OF ANYTHING... I guess I don't see the issue. Lol. 9) "I don't understand how somebody, hand on their heart, can say Noah's Ark is a true story... it makes no sense at all." I ask you, how did you get that from this video?? I am correlating elements from a story to ancient star patterns, and actually DENOUNCING any claim it is history. I make this point continually from the lecture this 5 minute video was taken from. I even laugh at people who claim this to be true. The fact that you, and this comment section, couldn't understand that, or even just deduce it from this presentation is truly astounding.

[@theodorevoudrislis6103]

@@gnosticacademy 1. "Did Jonah spend 3 days in the belly of a whale? No." Yup, we all know that but, in contrast to the Bible, no one grew up believing we could actually live inside a whale's belly, because we can tell the difference between a fairy tale and reality. Now, why so many people believe that the Bible is a pure documentation of facts, that's way beyond me. 2. "Myths are written in such a fashion as to encode many layers of meaning". I couldn't agree more with this comment. Like the myths of Aesop. Everybody can get the deeper meanings of these myths, nobody believes them to be true. And to base a whole religion on such myths? That's preposterous. 3. "How you and this comment section can not understand such actually shows an enormous lack of understanding basic literary devices used within countless classical works of literature. These methods have been used by every great writer from Shakespeare to Edgar Allen Poe". I'm trying to understand your point, here. I do understand the basic literary devices of literature and fiction and I enjoy them for what they are. Fiction. If I want to learn about actual facts, I read science books. Can you understand science and accept hard proof when it's presented to you?

[@alexandrorocca7142]

As someone who speaks Italian, the idea that the piano is called after π made my jaw drop. Fun fact about the ark: It didn't have any means of propulsion or a rudder. Noah could've sent flocks of birds to look for dry land, but he couldn't do anything to reach it.

[@redbaron6805]

Fortunately, that wasn't much of an issue as he could never have built it. To make a non floating replica of an "Ark" in Kentucky in the USA, it took years for hundreds of people working every day with power tools, using cranes to lift the 12.5 ton beams into place, using metal brackets and metal hardware, and 3.1 million board feet of timber, all delivered pre cut in ready to assemble boards via trucks. I guess Noah and sons just went to Home Depot, picked up some power tools and lumber and went to work back in the day...

[@fomori2]

@@redbaron6805 That was simply an argument from personal incredulity, a version of the argument from ignorance. You didnt actually make any valid or sound argument why it couldnt be built back then.

[@redbaron6805]

@@fomori2 So.... the fact that a copy of the Ark took years with hundreds of workers, using modern power tools, having ready made lumber trucked in, using metal brackets and bolts, and using a crane to lift 25000 pound beams into place wouldn't have prevented a senior citizen farmer and his kids to build a giant cruise ship and fill it up with animals on a world cruise??? No red flags there? OK. Do you know how long it would a person to cut 3.1 million board feet of lumber and truck it to a shipbuilding site? Any idea what happens to lumber if it isn't pressure treated for rot and protected from insects? Let me guess. You have never built anything in your life bigger than a kid sized Lego set...

[@47f0]

@@fomori2 - Any ignorance of ship building would have been at the time of Noah. 1) Materials. No species of wood exists with properties that would permit the building of a vessel that size. 2) Tools. Brass and bronze make lousy woodworking tools. They are soft, and do not hold an edge well. Tungsten steel blades and bits did not exist at the time. Noah would have needed an entire support industry making and maintaining the ability of these tools to cut what apparently is the toughest wood ever described. 3) Time. The first we hear of the flood is in Genesis 6:3, which is when the 120 year countdown begins. But God doesn't actually tell Noah to build the Ark then, only later. Japheth, Shem and Ham still had to reach an age where they were married. As Ham was the youngest, even being generous, four men have about 50 years to build this ship. That seems like a long time, until you consider that building very large ships in the 18th century could take between 5 to 7 years and a crew of 200 shipbuilders. That's about a thousand man years of skilled shipbuilders versus 200 man years for Noah's inexperienced crew working with inferior tools that needed constant maintenance. 4) Support infrastructure. You can't just build a vessel this size in your driveway. It has to be cradled, or it will literally collapse under its own structural weight out of water. Building the support structures and all of the related construction infrastructure like ramps and pulleys to move materials is another whole obstacle to building a one-of-a-kind vessel. 5) Suitability. Even the impossibly large vessel described in the Bible is microscopically small compared to what would actually be needed to get a significant sampling of the Earth's species on board with all of the food. Ignoring the issue of carnivores, the amount of food was not just enough for the several months that the ark floated, but since crop lands that have been submerged that long are dead for the season, and you have to replant and regrow new forage for the animals, which have to be fed in the meantime - so the ark needed to carry that much additional food, too. 6) Animal husbandry. Captive animals are labor-intensive. Feeding, watering and cleaning up after that many animals is a task that doesn't even bear thinking about. So no, any arguments from ignorance, have been made by the authors of this fictional work of Middle Eastern mythology.

[@wranglerboi]

@Alexandro Rocca - Good point! I never thought of that. Do you think that the flapping of all those bird Noah sent out might have pushed the ark toward land? (Wow, I just started a whole new conspiracy theory.)

[@MrPixiepantz]

But isn't Argo Navis "the ship Argo" sailed by Jason in Greek Mythology? And I haven't found anything to suggest Jason and Noah are the same person. No stories of Jason filling the Argo with animals due to a flood or of Noah searching for a golden fleece. Also, Noah possibly took 7 pairs of all clean animals, 7 pairs of the birds of the heavens and a pair of each unclean animal...or possibly 7 of each clean animal to allow 3 pairs and a sacrifice depending on who you're talking to.

[@Alex-xt1rr]

It is even stated in the Wikipedia article, he is using to prove his point (at 4:18 in the video) that the constellation is named after the Argo.

[@DoctorZisIN]

God exists outside the Universe, space and time, but he loves barbecue after a nice universal flood.

[@erikthompson619]

Not only are you absolutely right about the Argo. Add to this that constellations in general have got their names from Greek mythology, with no connection to the Bible whatsoever. But maybe this dude is under the impression that characters like Orion, Andromeda and Cassiopeia are biblical as well.

[@thunderflare59]

Marty probably pulled a muscle with how much he reached there.

[@peterwyetzner5276]

@@DoctorZisIN Who doesn't?

[@patrickcromwell7554]

When Dan giggles and asks Marty about his showing the Earth's rotation, that just reinforces my belief that flat Earthers have no clue what they're looking at when it comes to factual "scientific observations." They always say "Question everything." And to be only a little fair, having questions isn't the issue people have with Flat Earthers; questions lead to learning , it's a sign of intelligence when you have questions, because it shows a willingness to learn. Flat Earthers however never question - despite telling everyone around them to do so - they have all the answers. This isn't the first time Dan has caught a Flat Earther actually showing Earth's rotation, or curve, or some other aspect that is literally right in their face that prove the opposite of their arguments. They're either not intelligent enough to notice or try to distract us by focusing on something else entirely.

[@GraemePryce1978]

You could have just stopped with 'flat Earthers have no clue what they're looking at' and applied it to literally everything.

[@gordowg1wg145]

The idjit is taking the 'free association' of words to a ludicrous extreme. It's the hypocrisy of all these "flat earth", and "conspirasy" idiots, not using that "Question everything" credo on ANY of their core beliefs that disgusts me the most.

[@patrickcromwell7554]

@@gordowg1wg145 They do seem to enjoy telling everyone to "question everything" UNLESS it's a conspiracy or or saying the Earth is Flat.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

They also clearly do not want to HEAR the answers to their "questions". And only question the globe, never the flat construct of theirs... Altogether bad habits and unscientific.

[@christopherbedford9897]

“Intelligent individuals learn from every thing and every one; average people, from their experiences. The stupid already have all the answers.” ~ Socrates

[@iandavidson1]

I have a question which I have never heard anyone ask before regarding Noah: Did no one else have a bloody boat back then?

[@MouldMadeMind]

An ark is not a boat, it's a wooden chest.

[@dhotnessmcawesome9747]

@@MouldMadeMind Different arks.

[@terranceparsons5185]

Excellent point! Fishermen, ferrymen, etc. They would have needed food for 6 weeks though, ah, yes, fish!

[@chrisbenson6683]

Probably not a boat built to stand up to 40 straight days of rain.

[@God_Is_An_Atheist]

"Your entire body is symmetrical" Jeff Bezos' right eye has left the chat

[@hannahpumpkins4359]

My body isn't symmetrical - my left boob is bigger than my right one!

[@bernierasmusson9257]

@@hannahpumpkins4359 What a coincidence. My left hand is bigger than my right one.

[@FIREBRAND38]

Oh no! My left liver and right pancreas are both missing!

[@080bgs]

@@FIREBRAND38 so is my left appendix!!

[@missharry5727]

My right heart seems to have got lost!

[@CJ-ty8sv]

3:19 speaking of 8.5m species... I heard the funniest thing last week from a religious believer about this problem that I've never heard before. The topic of Noah's Ark came up so I asked the woman how it could have been possible for more that 16 million animals to have been on the boat and she looked at me dumfounded and asked me where I pulled that number from in which I replied, "well seeing as how there is somewhere between 8 million and 9 million species of animals on the planet and there 2 of each species, that's 16 million at minimum." "Her reply was that "there weren't but a few hundred species during the time." I looked at here sideways and then said, "so then does that mean that you believe in evolution and on top of that, believe that it occurs even faster than we believe it to?" and her response was, "no, the greater number of species today is a result of inbreeding which resulted in genetic mutations that appear to be a different species and cross breeding which lead to more new species in the early days after the flood was over." I couldn't help but laugh hysterically when she said that and it made her mad and she got up and left.

[@CrochetIsLife54]

“Evolution is impossible!” Proceeds to explain how evolution occurs… 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Niemer82]

Ouch, that hurts the brain so much!

[@Llortnerof]

So her answer was "it wasn't evolution, it was evolution". Classic.

[@helenr4300]

That is classic Answers in Genesis / Ark Encounter theory. God had supersized their genomes with all the extra stuff to diversify afterwards but only within their kinds..... Yep the mental gymnastics is impressive, only necessary because their corner of christianity puts so much weight on the Bible being totally literal (especially the sacred word of the King James Version).

[@MrPixiepantz]

Had the same discussion with a God botherer at work years ago. Evolution over millions of years definitely didn't happen, oh no, no, no. Just some animals of each "type" were taken onto the ark and after the flood they quickly "diversified"...no, that's definitely nothing like evolution but in a shorter timescale...totally different.

[@moreon340]

Marty has just demonstrated one of the best examples of pareidolia I've ever seen.

[@VariantAEC]

What part of this video did I miss?

[@thunderflare59]

"It's literally a bird!" You mean that cross? Marty is that "is this a pidgin" meme come to life.

[@dogwalker666]

I can never see the shapes claimed I mean if you were going to draw Orion would you start with his belt lol

[@zacharysieg2305]

His entire argument seems to be, “Look at all these pretty stars. THEREFORE NOAH’S ARK.”

[@dlevi67]

There is a "verbidolia" (or logoidolia? Or ...) too, when he thinks that Camelopardalis is a cat, when it's a giraffe. Meow.

[@seanrickards5707]

Going by his logic of the constellations being what was on the Ark would mean both Hercules and Perseus were picked up by Noah too. I wonder if he got them to help clean out the unicorn or pegasus?

[@nickk6518]

It couldn't have been much fun for trees and other vegetation being submerged for 40 days and nights during the Flood, but at least the Triffids were able to self-propel themselves onto the Ark before the deluge began. Probably wouldn't have been much fun being neighbours with Triffids, though.

[@David_randomnumber]

Another thing to think about: was the flood saltwater or freshwater and how did the non domestic species survived the opposite ? Did Noah had lots and lots of fishbowls aboard ?

[@ratillecebrasquedubitantiu4451]

Don't forget guys, it rained for 40 days and nights, the flood was over 100 days

[@nickk6518]

@@ratillecebrasquedubitantiu4451 I'm always happy to be corrected on matters of fact!!

[@rallyfeind]

@@David_randomnumber You know that freshwater and domestic are not synonymous in any stretch of the meaning.

[@JohnSmith-zv8km]

@@David_randomnumber excellent thought

[@randolphphillips3104]

So, random patterns named by older civilizations for things they looked like (many of which were animals) proves that Noah built an ark? I once saw a cloud that looked like a car, and I see lightening bolts in storms, so flying cars and lightning bolts in the clouds must mean Harry Potter's magical world is real! (Dang, that means I am a muggle.) Didn't expect much when the opener showed he was amazed that there could be patterns in your fingers that coincide with an instrument played with your fingers.

[@herzkine]

But they also coincide with the alphabet that ends at M :-D

[@kellydalstok8900]

Harry Potter is definitely real. I walked through Diagon Alley and saw lots of young people gather at Kings Cross Station on 18th September 2018. Don’t tell me that wasn’t because they were catching the Hogwarts Express. Come to think of it, I even caught a train at Hogsmeade in 1986, although the signs were obviously changed to fool us muggles.

[@tamielizabethallaway2413]

Now listen, I hate conspiracy theories too, but I draw the line at mocking Harry Potter! Hogwarts is real I tell you, real!!! You can now have detention in the dark forest! Ten points deducted for your insolence!

[@nickryan3417]

​@@tamielizabethallaway2413 Definitely... particularly as there is exactly the same amount of evidence for Harry Potter being real as there are for the bible being real. I mean, Harry Potter books mention London and London is real and therefore everything in the Harry Potter books is real.

[@randolphphillips3104]

@@tamielizabethallaway2413 but I said it was real and provided "evidence"!

[@Ping2001]

I haven't laughed so much in a long time. A winged horse and a unicorn in Noah's ark. And of course the fishes. He had to save the fishes from the flood.

[@mathiasrryba]

He would've needed to since most of aquatic life would go extinct after starving/drowning in food deprived water with completely ruined salination.

[@timjohnun4297]

@@mathiasrryba He made wooden boxes to keep them in, I think....

[@bluehornet197]

@@mathiasrryba no no you forget this is the Bible where anything can happen of course I was there and I can vouch there was no fish on the ark but us hornets were there

[@pauligrossinoz]

And don't forget that the winged horse and the unicorn are a mating pair, male and female! Was it the pegasus with the penis, or was it the unicorn with the penis? Should we ask this lunatic?

[@genisisarc]

The fish might have drowned in the flood 🤔 🤣🤣

[@47f0]

The Monaco estimate is pretty conservative, because (and most Christians get this wrong) Noah did not bring a pair of each animal - that was only for the unclean animals. He brought seven pair of the clean animals and of the fowl. (Genesis 7:2-7:3) which makes the berthing space problem even worse. The constellation boat seems to be a sailing vessel. No mention of sails is made in the account of the ark. Fish would not have done at all well in a global flood. There are a few exceptions, but most fish prefer a certain level of salinity... something that you cannot get mixing a freshwater flood with salt water oceans. Of course, Noah then takes his precious cargo, and uses part of it for the world's largest barbecue ever (Genesis 8:20).

[@rollinolson3562]

Up vote for the seven pairs of clean animals. Few people actually read the story and catch that. BTW, cameleopards (giraffes) qualify as clean animals; imagine 14 giraffes on a boat. BTW2, that barbecue was why Noah needed so many clean animals.

[@kollsepta]

I think he means some animals of each group of species, like "some mamals, some fish, some insects" but that would prove evolution so he's wrong in every way possible.

[@frankgibson3749]

That was the first thought that came to my mind when he mentioned that. Evolution right there! Obviously evolution on steroids to happen in his perceived few thousand years rather than the millions it takes but we must encourage his first realisation of scientific facts. Bless!

[@gnosticacademy]

From Marty Leeds: 1) I speak directly against the Bible being a history book. It is not. NONE of it is historical or to be taken at face value. Period. The Bible is a collection of stories/myths based on classic retellings of other ancient myths. Again... NONE OF IT IS HISTORY. The entire lecture from which this 5 minute snippet is from I discuss this at length. Every Sunday we show how these stories are exactly that... STORIES/MYTHS. NOT HISTORY. 2) I do not have a script (like you do), so when I said "The Raven/Crow" is the same, this was simply me mis-speaking. The Raven and Crow come from the Corvidae family, hence why the constellation is called CORVUS. 3) Why would fish need to be aboard the boat, i.e. Pisces? Obviously they wouldn't. Considering this is MYTH and a story relating to the stars, and NOTHING factual... the fact that you even mentioned this shows a total lack of understanding parable and allegory. NONE of this is historically happened. It is a STORY. Did Jonah spend 3 days in the belly of a whale? No, obviously not. Just like all the other wild and outrageous tales in the Bible, myths are written in such a fashion as to encode many layers of meaning. What is the whale Jonah spent time in? It's the constellation Cetus. Again... Nothing historical. Nothing factual. THEY ARE MYTHS/STORIES/PARABLES and ALLEGORIES. How you and this comment section can not understand such actually shows an enormous lack of understanding basic literary devices used within countless classical works of literature. These methods have been used by every great writer from Shakespeare to Edgar Allen Poe. 4) Camelopardlis is formed from the 2 words Camel and Leopard. Camelopardalis, from Greek kamelopardalis "a giraffe," a compound of kamelos "camel" for the long neck, and pardos "leopard, panther." 5) 4:25 and on: Wait, did you actually calculate the size of the boat??? Lol. Why? It's star study. You missed the entire point I was making in this video (That this IS MYTH) and claimed to your audience I was saying it was history. This is either you being insanely disingenuous or just plain retarded. "You would need a boat the size of Monaco?" For what? To fit a myth in it?? Lol. 6) 6:56 - "Literally a dove": Literally definition (informal use): used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while NOT BEING LITERALLY TRUE. 7) 9:03 - "Kind of running out of constellations, there's only 88." You mean to fit aboard an imaginary boat? A boat that ACTUALLY DOESN'T EXIST? Hahaha 8) "What about the lizards, and goats and Buffalo, Marty?" Well, Dan, let me say this again... considering this is just a MYTH and not meant to be a FACTUAL ACCOUNT OF ANYTHING... I guess I don't see the issue. Lol. 9) "I don't understand how somebody, hand on their heart, can say Noah's Ark is a true story... it makes no sense at all." I ask you, how did you get that from this video?? I am correlating elements from a story to ancient star patterns, and actually DENOUNCING any claim it is history. I make this point continually from the lecture this 5 minute video was taken from. I even laugh at people who claim this to be true. The fact that you, and this comment section, couldn't understand that, or even just deduce it from this presentation is truly astounding.

[@kollsepta]

@@gnosticacademy thing is, many people do actually believe the Noah's story actually happened, and yes I did notice that you said "what actually means" meaning that the story itself is not true, even so, it does not add to anything, still doesn't prove or disprove anything.

[@franciscodetonne4797]

Human has this ability called "pattern recognition". It has helped humanity survived the wilderness in its earliest days. But the ability persists to this day and becomes the butt of all jokes to those who are rational. Also, cherry picking is a great method to prove your inability to make an unfalsifiable argument. Btw, Marty, wtf. Greek mythology predates Christianity several centuries. "Argo" is Jason's ship, and "Argo Navis" means "Sea vessel Argo", NOT "Ark of Noah".

[@jursamaj]

There's nothing wrong with pattern recognition itself. It is in fact very useful, being how we recognize *any* class of things. The important part is to figure out which patterns are meaningful.

[@JMulvy]

@@jursamaj exactly, which patterns, not all patterns, or even most patterns.

[@aussie405]

The film of the stars is even more damning, when you realise they are moving clockwise around the south celestial pole, which cannot exist on a flat earth.

[@beckydoesit9331]

Actually, this is one of points of contention when I first looked into flat Earth. How does a southern point appear in the south that can be seen in New Zealand AND in Argentina, sometimes simultaneously, by looking South, which is in opposite directions from one another. It's confusing. But, there is an interesting explanation. The southern sky is merely a reflection of the northern sky and is actually apparent rather than actual. This explains why the land and sea below the Equator were not fully explored during the early part of the millennium and only became partly mapped until the 1600's. Austin Whitsit actually explains this phenomena quite well.

[@christiancarassai9540]

@@beckydoesit9331 No! the sky is a reflection from people frm here. South. I'm argentinian and can assure you our sky is totally different, not a reflection.

[@wakingforbacon6439]

@@beckydoesit9331 you are joking right. Then why are the stars different? Why are there galaxies and nebulas in the southern hemisphere that are not in the northern hemisphere? Doesn't make any sense. And witsit doesn't explain anything. Flat earthers are a joke. Their explanations are a joke. Anyone can misunderstand something but at least most people will learn where they are wrong. The dunning Kruger is strong with witsit. Wow can't believe you even said that. It not really there it's just apparent. Ha ha. Wow the things flat earthers will say.

[@bloozee]

@@wakingforbacon6439 Flat earth was only a way of finding more Trump voters... I expect there will be a new trick for the next election cycle.... you gotta love democracy eh?

[@wakingforbacon6439]

@@bloozee it does seem that the science denial community runs rampant in the republican party right? Lol. Don't believe in climate change, don't believe in evolution, and don't believe the earth is a sphere. I agree there will be some nonsense that comes out right before the election.

[@cylonscotty7418]

I was really concerned with the extinction of the human race - then I watched this guy and now I’m okay with it.

[@thegreatestevil1616]

Same here...maybe its time god genocided the world...again

[@MrShanester117]

Cool you’re able to copy and paste stuff from Twitter. Gold star for you ⭐️

[@gnosticacademy]

From Marty Leeds: 1) I speak directly against the Bible being a history book. It is not. NONE of it is historical or to be taken at face value. Period. The Bible is a collection of stories/myths based on classic retellings of other ancient myths. Again... NONE OF IT IS HISTORY. The entire lecture from which this 5 minute snippet is from I discuss this at length. Every Sunday we show how these stories are exactly that... STORIES/MYTHS. NOT HISTORY. 2) I do not have a script (like you do), so when I said "The Raven/Crow" is the same, this was simply me mis-speaking. The Raven and Crow come from the Corvidae family, hence why the constellation is called CORVUS. 3) Why would fish need to be aboard the boat, i.e. Pisces? Obviously they wouldn't. Considering this is MYTH and a story relating to the stars, and NOTHING factual... the fact that you even mentioned this shows a total lack of understanding parable and allegory. NONE of this is historically happened. It is a STORY. Did Jonah spend 3 days in the belly of a whale? No, obviously not. Just like all the other wild and outrageous tales in the Bible, myths are written in such a fashion as to encode many layers of meaning. What is the whale Jonah spent time in? It's the constellation Cetus. Again... Nothing historical. Nothing factual. THEY ARE MYTHS/STORIES/PARABLES and ALLEGORIES. How you and this comment section can not understand such actually shows an enormous lack of understanding basic literary devices used within countless classical works of literature. These methods have been used by every great writer from Shakespeare to Edgar Allen Poe. 4) Camelopardlis is formed from the 2 words Camel and Leopard. Camelopardalis, from Greek kamelopardalis "a giraffe," a compound of kamelos "camel" for the long neck, and pardos "leopard, panther." 5) 4:25 and on: Wait, did you actually calculate the size of the boat??? Lol. Why? It's star study. You missed the entire point I was making in this video (That this IS MYTH) and claimed to your audience I was saying it was history. This is either you being insanely disingenuous or just plain retarded. "You would need a boat the size of Monaco?" For what? To fit a myth in it?? Lol. 6) 6:56 - "Literally a dove": Literally definition (informal use): used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while NOT BEING LITERALLY TRUE. 7) 9:03 - "Kind of running out of constellations, there's only 88." You mean to fit aboard an imaginary boat? A boat that ACTUALLY DOESN'T EXIST? Hahaha 8) "What about the lizards, and goats and Buffalo, Marty?" Well, Dan, let me say this again... considering this is just a MYTH and not meant to be a FACTUAL ACCOUNT OF ANYTHING... I guess I don't see the issue. Lol. 9) "I don't understand how somebody, hand on their heart, can say Noah's Ark is a true story... it makes no sense at all." I ask you, how did you get that from this video?? I am correlating elements from a story to ancient star patterns, and actually DENOUNCING any claim it is history. I make this point continually from the lecture this 5 minute video was taken from. I even laugh at people who claim this to be true. The fact that you, and this comment section, couldn't understand that, or even just deduce it from this presentation is truly astounding.

[@Adiscretefirm]

Thanos was right, we do without at least half of humanity

[@tokyo333]

"Um... I think the fish will be OK in a flood....” This line won the internet for me today 🤣

[@Steelmage99]

Actually ("Aaaaachtually"), they won't. :) Neither salt water fish, nor fresh water fish will have a good time in the mixed brackish water of the Flood.

[@tokyo333]

@@Steelmage99 i was referring to the delivery of the line 👍

[@spiritbx1337]

@@tokyo333 But they will drown! Although, realistically, fresh and salt water could mix and fuck with the poor fish.

[@tokyo333]

@@spiritbx1337 again the delivery of the line was funny to me. i did not say anything about the feasibility. i take your word for it. as i am a lowly meteorologist and not up to speed on pescian biology 😂

[@markslater8529]

The fish would survive longer in the water than out of it

[@Lueluekopter]

If todays bears (brown bears, polar bears, pandas etc) came from just two bears on the Ark a few thousand years ago, that would require a huge rate of mutation in a short time. Almost like a polar bear giving birth to a panda. Those creationists love contradicting themselves 🙄

[@petyrkowalski9887]

..and a penguin gave birth to a dolphin. Probably.

[@sidthemyth]

@@petyrkowalski9887 and a fish to a lizard, and the lizard to a moussy, moussy to the monkey... and a monkey to a human. and so on...

[@nealjroberts4050]

@@sidthemyth well that is what Creationists demand when they claim all species came from an ark not big enough to house them all!

[@randalscott7224]

Creationists have no problem with this fantastic rate of mutation of "kinds" from their ark, yet they mock evolutionists for saying (which we have never actually said ever) some monkeys suddenly became humans. I guess contradiction isn't in their dictionary, which makes sense as their idea of a science book is the Bible.

[@misterocain]

Absolutely, backed up by the fact that nobody has seen a Polar Bear give birth to a Panda.

[@joseraulcapablanca8564]

Wow just when you thought Marty had been as ridiculous as he could… Good to see him proving the globe, maybe he should team up with Bob the noodle. Thanks Dan and keep up the good work.

[@abnormallynormal8823]

I have a fun Noah’s Ark theory. Because of the recent discovery of Göbeklitepe, we know humans (or a yet undiscovered humanoid between us and Neanderthal) existed between 9,500 and 8,000 BCE, so it’s possible that civilization could have lived during the Younger Dryas period, including the sudden spike in temperature (due to a meteor that hit Greenland) that would have melted the norther ice cap rather quickly, while also throwing ice into the atmosphere causing it to rain for days, if not weeks or more. To the ancient people of the time, this would seem like a God flooding the earth and destroying the landscape. To remember this event and what they believe a God can do, oral histories were passed down as the culture of that civilization expanded and evolved into others (this is why almost every ancient culture has a flood myth). Eventually it was written down as the tale of Noah’s Ark, without the context of it being a story that didn’t happen, describing a historical event that did happen. It could also have taken on aspects of other, more established ancient civilizations. The ark itself could possibly come from the ancient Egyptian culture pre-great pyramids. The site they’re built on is a natural hill, and it sits in what was once a flood plane. It would make sense to keep at least one of each livestock you have, one male and one female minimum, fenced in on the hill during the flood season to keep them alive when all the farms flood. Someone would have to build a fence each year, because it would be torn down after the flood season so the hill could be used as a holy site, so that’s why building got into the story. Eventually “a few of each livestock” turned into “one of each animal” in the Noah’s Ark story. It seems feasible that in the thousands of years since the event the story could be morphed like that. For us Jesus was about 2000 years ago. For the people of that time, this event would have happened 8000 years ago, minimum. It’s truly ancient history.

[@stevied667iswin]

If you switch the word "literally" for "figuratively" then I'm on board with his idea. Out ancestors looked at the sky and thought "Wow how amazing does that look, we can make a story out of that!".

[@rickkwitkoski1976]

Yep! But ask anyone less than the age of say... 40??? what the meaning of "literally" is and they will LITERALLY say that it means something like metaphor! Like, "WOW! My head LITERALLY exploded!" but you can't see any suture marks on their scalp or neck...

[@Sqwan2]

@@rickkwitkoski1976 That's because by head they mean brain. And I am pretty sure they are right. Obviously there wasn't that much of it before, so it was a very small explosion. Nothing to worry about...

[@betadecay6503]

@@Sqwan2 Check the dictionary. "Literally" is defined as "In effect: Virtually" and has been used that way since the 18th century. So...you're wrong and you literally insulted people for being right.

[@Sqwan2]

​@@betadecay6503 I took that literally. Cambridge Dictonary: "using the real or original meaning of a word or phrase: They were responsible for literally millions of deaths." Oxford Languages: in a literal manner or sense; exactly. "the driver took it literally when asked to go straight over the roundabout"

[@ahall9839]

@@betadecay6503 Oh, well if "they" have done it since the 18th century, that makes it less stupid to use a word to mean the opposite of what the word means. And I can guarantee you in the 18th century you didn't have to hear every other sentence said by anyone under the age of 29 include the word literally for literally no fucking reason.

[@kynkokytsumi1931]

I like the way it says "Opened THE window he had made" ... everything would be dead through ammonia poisoning

[@theoldgeeks4748]

I know how much trouble 2 cats and a dog can make, imagine millions of pets

[@diamondsmasher]

The cats clearly would’ve eaten the mice out of spite the moment Noah turned his back.

[@redbaron6805]

To make a non floating replica of an "Ark" in Kentucky in the USA, it took years for hundreds of people working every day with power tools, using cranes to lift the 12.5 ton beams into place, using metal brackets and metal hardware, and 3.1 million board feet of timber, all delivered pre cut in ready to assemble boards via trucks. Never mind that the largest wooden sailing ship built in 1853, the Great Republic, which was only 334 feet long was so long that the waves continually stressed the frame, so it leaked constantly until it broke apart and finally sank years later. Did I mention the Ark was supposedly 50% larger? Built by a senior citizen and his sons, a farmer that had no ship building experience whatsoever? Yeah, makes perfect sense...

[@69salv]

Ffs Dan, I can't laugh so hard at my age. I need adult nappies for Christ sake 🤣 Keep doing your amazing vids

[@Vikanuck]

I love what Sheldon Cooper asks his mom - “What did they feed the lions mother?” “…The floating bodies of drowned sinners 😑” lol.

[@kellydalstok8900]

That would only work for a few days. The rest of that year they would go hungry - no longer, because there were no animals on earth after the flood other than the ones that got off the ark (according to their fairytale), and they would have to be prevented from having young on the ark.

[@Vikanuck]

@@kellydalstok8900 It’s a joke… from a TV show… lol. Really shouldn’t require that much thought 😄

[@davidkeller6156]

🤣🤣🤣

[@andreasmuller4666]

To be frank, this is the best "explanation" for that whole Ark thing i have heard so far. Lovely entertainment, truly hilarious.

[@_Abjuranax_]

The reason we don't have evidence for the Ark these days is because of the two termites that were brought on board. 👌

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

@@_Abjuranax_ LOL!

[@DaedalusYoung]

Sounds like an interesting story about where the names for the constellations came from. Which automatically means the story didn't actually happen, just some people with access to opioids spending a night gazing at the stars, going "whoah, that one totally looks like a unicorn, man!"

[@TheForcesofDarkness]

Agreed. A well thought out mix of theology and astrology.

[@andreasmuller4666]

@@_Abjuranax_ Good one.

[@maifantasia3650]

Noah's Ark? "But Lord, was it necessary for us to bring the woodworm?" Thank you Dave Allen.

[@mjjohnson6302]

I love how these guys have to post from their cars. Always makes me wonder if they are homeless or the wife won't let them post from home. Does he even realize that trying to explain the astrological explanation of Noah's ark totally blows away his flat earth beliefs.

[@dom11949]

probably leaky exhaust fumes brings on the delusion

[@herzkine]

CC = wife; this guy: too many old pizza boxes in the trailer too get the highly sophisticated flat earther look.

[@gnosticacademy]

From Marty Leeds: 1) I speak directly against the Bible being a history book. It is not. NONE of it is historical or to be taken at face value. Period. The Bible is a collection of stories/myths based on classic retellings of other ancient myths. Again... NONE OF IT IS HISTORY. The entire lecture from which this 5 minute snippet is from I discuss this at length. Every Sunday we show how these stories are exactly that... STORIES/MYTHS. NOT HISTORY. 2) I do not have a script (like you do), so when I said "The Raven/Crow" is the same, this was simply me mis-speaking. The Raven and Crow come from the Corvidae family, hence why the constellation is called CORVUS. 3) Why would fish need to be aboard the boat, i.e. Pisces? Obviously they wouldn't. Considering this is MYTH and a story relating to the stars, and NOTHING factual... the fact that you even mentioned this shows a total lack of understanding parable and allegory. NONE of this is historically happened. It is a STORY. Did Jonah spend 3 days in the belly of a whale? No, obviously not. Just like all the other wild and outrageous tales in the Bible, myths are written in such a fashion as to encode many layers of meaning. What is the whale Jonah spent time in? It's the constellation Cetus. Again... Nothing historical. Nothing factual. THEY ARE MYTHS/STORIES/PARABLES and ALLEGORIES. How you and this comment section can not understand such actually shows an enormous lack of understanding basic literary devices used within countless classical works of literature. These methods have been used by every great writer from Shakespeare to Edgar Allen Poe. 4) Camelopardlis is formed from the 2 words Camel and Leopard. Camelopardalis, from Greek kamelopardalis "a giraffe," a compound of kamelos "camel" for the long neck, and pardos "leopard, panther." 5) 4:25 and on: Wait, did you actually calculate the size of the boat??? Lol. Why? It's star study. You missed the entire point I was making in this video (That this IS MYTH) and claimed to your audience I was saying it was history. This is either you being insanely disingenuous or just plain retarded. "You would need a boat the size of Monaco?" For what? To fit a myth in it?? Lol. 6) 6:56 - "Literally a dove": Literally definition (informal use): used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while NOT BEING LITERALLY TRUE. 7) 9:03 - "Kind of running out of constellations, there's only 88." You mean to fit aboard an imaginary boat? A boat that ACTUALLY DOESN'T EXIST? Hahaha 8) "What about the lizards, and goats and Buffalo, Marty?" Well, Dan, let me say this again... considering this is just a MYTH and not meant to be a FACTUAL ACCOUNT OF ANYTHING... I guess I don't see the issue. Lol. 9) "I don't understand how somebody, hand on their heart, can say Noah's Ark is a true story... it makes no sense at all." I ask you, how did you get that from this video?? I am correlating elements from a story to ancient star patterns, and actually DENOUNCING any claim it is history. I make this point continually from the lecture this 5 minute video was taken from. I even laugh at people who claim this to be true. The fact that you, and this comment section, couldn't understand that, or even just deduce it from this presentation is truly astounding.

[@johnseven3695]

What about the B Ark? "The Golgafrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B was a way of removing the basically useless citizens from the planet of Golgafrincham. A variety of stories were formed about the doom of the planet, such as blowing up, crashing into the sun or being eaten by a mutant star goat. The ship was filled with all the middlemen of Golgafrincham, such as the telephone sanitisers, account executives, hairdressers, tired TV producers, insurance salesmen, personnel officers, security guards, public relations executives, management consultants and flat Earthers

[@BigHeretic]

... and ironically the Golgafrinchians were subsequently wiped out by a virulant disease which spread due to the lack of "useless" telephone sanitisers 😖

[@advorak8529]

@Chris noonan All I can say is kzbin.info/www/bejne/enW0koNvl8eZldE

[@Oddball5.0]

We need to build one of these.

[@Soundbrigade]

This guy must have missed the B ark.

[@ruththinkingoutside.707]

You just made my day 🤣

[@Steelmage99]

8:34 Two horses you say, Marty? The Pegasus and the Unicorn? How about the Centaur? You seem to forget that, despite it being shown around 7:20 , right under the Crow. How did you miss that third horse, Marty? How about the Equuleus (Little Horse) constellation? That's an actual horse and not a mythological creature? Up to four now.

[@jokkehasa5298]

He also kind of skipped the cattle slide with three "of a kind". But honestly, who's counting

[@joeo3377]

Also, his two cats? One of them is a giraffe. Camelopardalis, which comes from the Greek name for the giraffe, literally "camel leopard".

[@Adrobiel]

Wow he really does just make things up! Off the bat, my understanding is it's called a piano, short for pianoforte which are generally translated to "soft" and "loud" differentiating it from the harpsichord which no control in the volume of its strikes.

[@lovecatxx]

"A crow is no different from a raven." No, they are both Corvids but they are not the same species of bird. Why not say "tigers are no different from lions" because they are both from panthera.

[@onyxtay7246]

Creationists generally say that animals in the same family are the same "kind" and are thus interchangeable. It's how they shrink the ark. Which only forces them to make super-mega-hyper evolution part of their theology - because all these modern species had to develop before anyone mentioned them a few hundred years after the ark landed.

[@rivenoak]

well, well.... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrion_crow is a "raven-crow" by its latin name _Corvus Corone_ :) ravens and crows are not that distinct, tigers and lions on the other hand are.

[@sharpmoon]

@@rivenoak Nobody said they were super distinct. @lovecatx stated they are both corvidae and thus different species inside that family line...

[@alek2341]

This video peaks at "Save the fish from the flood!". Absolutely brilliant.

[@MrL0wk3y.502]

Btw, much love and respect from Southern Indiana, USA Dan! You've been here since I started my sobriety and I'm proud that we've both been able to grow together albeit in different ways lol.

[@jcdock]

That's so great to hear! I wish you further success!

[@jay70328]

Good work. How long have you been sober? I'll be two years in June

[@bob_the_bomb4508]

Bloody hard to watch so much stupid and not turn to drink! Respect to you…

[@theblurredcrusade.2557]

Dang Erous, well done I applaud you, I've been struggling with alcohol the last few years, I've managed to cut down and am trying my best to get a clear run, but with the Pandemic and now what's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦 it's the only thing that gives me some stress relief.

[@JoeFromDetroit]

April 27th will be 12 Years for me, congratulations friend!!!

[@markmeier2781]

Actually, the story of the flood is much much older than the bible. They found texts in cuneiform from the Gilgamesh epos which included a big flood. And this epos was used to teach students how to write, so it was spread across the “known world” nearly 4000 years ago.

[@FuryPilot]

Did he just say that Camelopardis is a leopard at 9:08? That constellation is a giraffe.

[@johnsensebe3153]

To believe Noah's Ark, you'd have to believe that all plants and trees survived underwater for over half a year.

[@Leongon]

Seeds would. But everything else about that take makes zero sense.

[@jjeshop]

@@Leongon maybe, maybe not.

[@Derrythe01]

Under 5 miles of water for 11 months. Fish too.

[@johnsensebe3153]

@@Derrythe01 And after the flood, all the flowers on Earth were pollinated by TWO BEES.

[@Leongon]

@@Derrythe01 Lot of seeds float. The point is that eeeeeverything else makes absolutely no sense in that story... It's obviously only a tale.

[@jaybear7272]

Marty: "Blah blah blah... 2 of every animal on the ark." Also Marty: ignores 1 ram (aries), 1 scorpion (scorpio), 1 crab (cancer), 1 goat (capricorn), 1 chameleon (chamaeleon), 1 dolphin (dolphinus), 1 swordfish (dorado), 1 lizard (lacerta), 1 hare (lepus), 1 wolf (lupus), 1 fly (musca), 1 peacock (pavo), 1 bull (taurus), 1 toucan (tucana) and 1 fox (vulpecula).

[@JimmyT28]

And 1 Marty (Virgin, er Virgo.) Lel

[@dogwalker666]

Ah but apparently there was a dragon 😅

[@JimmyT28]

@@dogwalker666 and it was serpentine? not reptilian? dafuq?

[@johng9399]

@@dogwalker666 That's probably Mrs. Marty, poor lady!

[@dogwalker666]

@@JimmyT28 Indeed, The whole "kinds" thing Is hilarious, As they claim bats are birds I keep asking where the bat eggs are.

[@davidparsons3149]

Next he'll tell us the moon is the spaceship that brought us to earth.

[@andybrace9225]

Does this guy know that the constellations were mostly named by the Ancient Greeks who knew nothing of Noah's ark?

[@herzkine]

@@spawnofhumanityscrimes all stories are made up, most stories have a true core though they refer to. Even Marvel :-D

[@herzkine]

I dont think the greek elite was unaware of such a basic myth in many cultures.

[@fuzzyd9320]

@@herzkine The Greeks loved a bit of Spiderman !

[@VariantAEC]

@@fuzzyd9320 Uhm.. don't you mean Spider-Woman? There actually is an ancient greek story of a god turning a woman into a spider.

[@franciscodetonne4797]

Aaaaaaand Greek mythology predated any mention of Christianity by centuries. Therefore, Christianity also stole ideas from Greek mythology.

[@alunrogers3525]

There's always one! Thanks for this Dan. I haven't laughed so much for a while.

[@rennnnn914]

If he sent a raven that disappeared, and he only had a pair of ravens, why do we have ravens today?

[@Trainwheel_Time]

The same reason the whole thing works of course. Magic.

[@timothy8428]

The remaining raven had a threesome with the doves.

[@dom11949]

ravens are very smart birds, they got out while the getting was good

[@wranglerboi]

"Me thinks he knows not the meaning of the words he doth use." - Spearshaker, 1624 28 phalanges? Looks like he's also missing more than just a few of his marbles! Where I live, there are Ravens, Crows, and Blackbirds. There is absolutely NO likelihood that anyone could even confuse those three very distinct birds. In fact, our local indigenous Native Americans here in Alaska would find his statement offensive since Ravens (and Eagles) are considered sacred in their culture--given that they are the "founders" of their two main matriarchal clans. Personally, I think Marty Leeds got up on the wrong side of his earth today. Amazing how he didn't fall off while he was doing that!

[@MBF78]

The "point" of the raven is that the story is, most likely, a conflation of two different stories, one probably featuring a raven and one a dove. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall a "sail" ever being mentioned in the story of Noah's flood. In my recollection, the ark was just a big box, not an actual ship.

[@glennpearson9348]

I thought the ark was equipped with a couple of Evinrude 300 outboards. Great for letting your animals get out on the water for a little tubing from time to time.

[@petergaskin1811]

In the legend of Atra Hasis and the flood of Enki (the Sumerian origin of the Noah myth), the Ark is a huge circular coracle as used on the Euphrates.

[@kellydalstok8900]

@@petergaskin1811 Have you watched Irving Finkel’s videos about the ark story before the biblical one? They even made a (50% scale) replica using the instructions. Finkel’s sense of humour makes it very watchable.

[@tamielizabethallaway2413]

@@petergaskin1811 oooh not heard of that! Gonna have to look it up! 😁

[@tamielizabethallaway2413]

@@kellydalstok8900 I'm looking that up! Thanks! 😘

[@XeroMaverick]

I'm so glad you mentioned the fish being ok in a flood. Cause that was instantly my first thought.

[@wildzeke]

Actually, the mixing of fresh and salt water would have killed off most of the sea life.

[@gnosticacademy]

From Marty Leeds: 1) I speak directly against the Bible being a history book. It is not. NONE of it is historical or to be taken at face value. Period. The Bible is a collection of stories/myths based on classic retellings of other ancient myths. Again... NONE OF IT IS HISTORY. The entire lecture from which this 5 minute snippet is from I discuss this at length. Every Sunday we show how these stories are exactly that... STORIES/MYTHS. NOT HISTORY. 2) I do not have a script (like you do), so when I said "The Raven/Crow" is the same, this was simply me mis-speaking. The Raven and Crow come from the Corvidae family, hence why the constellation is called CORVUS. 3) Why would fish need to be aboard the boat, i.e. Pisces? Obviously they wouldn't. Considering this is MYTH and a story relating to the stars, and NOTHING factual... the fact that you even mentioned this shows a total lack of understanding parable and allegory. NONE of this is historically happened. It is a STORY. Did Jonah spend 3 days in the belly of a whale? No, obviously not. Just like all the other wild and outrageous tales in the Bible, myths are written in such a fashion as to encode many layers of meaning. What is the whale Jonah spent time in? It's the constellation Cetus. Again... Nothing historical. Nothing factual. THEY ARE MYTHS/STORIES/PARABLES and ALLEGORIES. How you and this comment section can not understand such actually shows an enormous lack of understanding basic literary devices used within countless classical works of literature. These methods have been used by every great writer from Shakespeare to Edgar Allen Poe. 4) Camelopardlis is formed from the 2 words Camel and Leopard. Camelopardalis, from Greek kamelopardalis "a giraffe," a compound of kamelos "camel" for the long neck, and pardos "leopard, panther." 5) 4:25 and on: Wait, did you actually calculate the size of the boat??? Lol. Why? It's star study. You missed the entire point I was making in this video (That this IS MYTH) and claimed to your audience I was saying it was history. This is either you being insanely disingenuous or just plain retarded. "You would need a boat the size of Monaco?" For what? To fit a myth in it?? Lol. 6) 6:56 - "Literally a dove": Literally definition (informal use): used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while NOT BEING LITERALLY TRUE. 7) 9:03 - "Kind of running out of constellations, there's only 88." You mean to fit aboard an imaginary boat? A boat that ACTUALLY DOESN'T EXIST? Hahaha 8) "What about the lizards, and goats and Buffalo, Marty?" Well, Dan, let me say this again... considering this is just a MYTH and not meant to be a FACTUAL ACCOUNT OF ANYTHING... I guess I don't see the issue. Lol. 9) "I don't understand how somebody, hand on their heart, can say Noah's Ark is a true story... it makes no sense at all." I ask you, how did you get that from this video?? I am correlating elements from a story to ancient star patterns, and actually DENOUNCING any claim it is history. I make this point continually from the lecture this 5 minute video was taken from. I even laugh at people who claim this to be true. The fact that you, and this comment section, couldn't understand that, or even just deduce it from this presentation is truly astounding.

[@DJCPreston]

I love the idea of Noah bringing two fish into the ark, and just dumping them on the deck next to some bears. The only two of their kind not to be ok in that flood.

[@annap9112]

All the time he was listing pairs of animals, I kept thinking “Where is the constellation of aardvarks? :)

[@smutsmat]

Noah’s arc being a celestial story makes more sense historically then it being an actual event.

[@Roozyj]

Yeah, if I didn't know who this was, I'd think "Oh, that's a cool parallel between Roman/Greek and Christian mythology he found! But he probably means all of this as proof of the Bible..

[@aralornwolf3140]

Except... This YT video ID says otherwise... TMms2DJN054

[@WerewolfLord]

@@aralornwolf3140 Let me guess... Darkmatter 2525? Edit: Yep, Darkmatter.

[@Alkaline7.62]

All while trying to prove his country sized boat he has admitted to hemispheres a globe earth space exists and stars and constellations exist good job

[@andrewethansbreakroom2588]

It’s human nature to always try and make sense of what one choices to believe… Good job SMD

[@vitalspark6288]

I think the fish would probably not be okay in the flood. Most fish are adapted for either salt water or fresh water and cannot live in a salinity they're not adapted for. A global flood caused by rain would mean that all fish would have to survive in a weakly saline ocean, which most fish adapted for either salt water or fresh water will die in.

[@Omega900]

Not enough space in the sky for all animals but I believe we got his logic. Ground breaking discovery that turned the entire world upside down...

[@coleford4258]

Humans evolved to be extremely good at pattern recognition for survival. Marty has taken that to a nonsensical level here. It's funny how he can recognize incredibly obscure (read untrue) patterns showing a connection between constellations and Noah's ark, but somehow fails to recognize legitimate patterns outlining that the earth is round.

[@sentinel_nightcrawler]

Yes, true

[@JaOzrenRadovanovic]

True. Pattern recognition with unlimited data is one of bigest things that are responsible for conspirancy theories!

[@jmmjjmmj8994]

I learned something new today. Noah's ark had aquariums. Proof: Aquarius constellation. Noah was actually Doctor Who and the ark was the Tardis. That explains everything.

[@tmtmtlsml]

Has that storyline actually happened in Doctor Who? I could totally see them trying to do something like that. Japheth and Arathka telling the story later be like "I know it all sounds crazy, but the Ark was a lot bigger on the inside!"

[@kellydalstok8900]

@@tmtmtlsml They did do an episode on dinosaurs on a spaceship.

[@timothy8428]

Actually the TARDIS has a swimming pool, not so much an aquarium, but similar I guess.

[@deultima]

It's amazing how these people can't see that just maybe this is where the story came from. Our ancestors getting drunk/high and staring up into the stars trying to make sense of it. No, instead this is proof it actually happened. Just fascinating honestly.

[@steveswangler6373]

what amazes me, is these people believe all these ancient myths and stories without question, but they refuse to believe facts like the earth is not flat and we went to the moon, despite all of the evidence.

[@AsmodeusMictian]

@@steveswangler6373 When you're invested in a beautiful lie that makes you feel secure and comfortable...and more importantly *in control*, some folks will do almost anything to keep believing it. It's one of the reasons I view religion as ultimately cruel to humanity. It allows horrible things to happen and for folks to assuage their feelings by saying "well, things will be better after I die." What about now? You doing anything about that? Oh, you're 'spreading the good word' of your delusion. Fantastic. That cured any diseases? No, it led to exorcisms being TREATMENT for the 'demons' that caused disease. You figure out how to fly? NOPE!, but you figured out how to fly planes into fucking buildings huh? How many wars now? Plus their ignorance spreads pandemics (sorry, did you NOT see the giant Jewish community that was proven to be a super spreader of COVID? We'd love to help folks, but in order to 'respect their religion', we can't stop them from killing people...so sorry.) Nah, keep your invisible friend away from me. He's not too bad, but the followers are murderous, delusional psychopaths who project a lot.

[@ArlecchinoMyDarlingChief17]

I love your amazing content. You never stop to flood my brain with knowledge. And I like your way of destroying flattards and tinfoil peeps via mathematics, logic and science. With love from the Philippines.

[@CD_Character]

Hah ! You said "flood".

[@Egg67538]

I have to say, having watched you a very long time, I can say this has been your funniest videos. I love how you interject more often with little jokes, and your energy overall was fantastic!! I don't want to act like I have any say, but I think it would be hilarious if, when someone is rambling on about something, your face slowly fades in with a perplexed expression until you've finally had enough and proceed to explain why they're wrong. Just a suggestion :) I love your videos! Keep up the great work Mr. Dan.

[@gnosticacademy]

From Marty Leeds: 1) I speak directly against the Bible being a history book. It is not. NONE of it is historical or to be taken at face value. Period. The Bible is a collection of stories/myths based on classic retellings of other ancient myths. Again... NONE OF IT IS HISTORY. The entire lecture from which this 5 minute snippet is from I discuss this at length. Every Sunday we show how these stories are exactly that... STORIES/MYTHS. NOT HISTORY. 2) I do not have a script (like you do), so when I said "The Raven/Crow" is the same, this was simply me mis-speaking. The Raven and Crow come from the Corvidae family, hence why the constellation is called CORVUS. 3) Why would fish need to be aboard the boat, i.e. Pisces? Obviously they wouldn't. Considering this is MYTH and a story relating to the stars, and NOTHING factual... the fact that you even mentioned this shows a total lack of understanding parable and allegory. NONE of this is historically happened. It is a STORY. Did Jonah spend 3 days in the belly of a whale? No, obviously not. Just like all the other wild and outrageous tales in the Bible, myths are written in such a fashion as to encode many layers of meaning. What is the whale Jonah spent time in? It's the constellation Cetus. Again... Nothing historical. Nothing factual. THEY ARE MYTHS/STORIES/PARABLES and ALLEGORIES. How you and this comment section can not understand such actually shows an enormous lack of understanding basic literary devices used within countless classical works of literature. These methods have been used by every great writer from Shakespeare to Edgar Allen Poe. 4) Camelopardlis is formed from the 2 words Camel and Leopard. Camelopardalis, from Greek kamelopardalis "a giraffe," a compound of kamelos "camel" for the long neck, and pardos "leopard, panther." 5) 4:25 and on: Wait, did you actually calculate the size of the boat??? Lol. Why? It's star study. You missed the entire point I was making in this video (That this IS MYTH) and claimed to your audience I was saying it was history. This is either you being insanely disingenuous or just plain retarded. "You would need a boat the size of Monaco?" For what? To fit a myth in it?? Lol. 6) 6:56 - "Literally a dove": Literally definition (informal use): used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while NOT BEING LITERALLY TRUE. 7) 9:03 - "Kind of running out of constellations, there's only 88." You mean to fit aboard an imaginary boat? A boat that ACTUALLY DOESN'T EXIST? Hahaha 8) "What about the lizards, and goats and Buffalo, Marty?" Well, Dan, let me say this again... considering this is just a MYTH and not meant to be a FACTUAL ACCOUNT OF ANYTHING... I guess I don't see the issue. Lol. 9) "I don't understand how somebody, hand on their heart, can say Noah's Ark is a true story... it makes no sense at all." I ask you, how did you get that from this video?? I am correlating elements from a story to ancient star patterns, and actually DENOUNCING any claim it is history. I make this point continually from the lecture this 5 minute video was taken from. I even laugh at people who claim this to be true. The fact that you, and this comment section, couldn't understand that, or even just deduce it from this presentation is truly astounding.

[@quietwatch]

I must have missed something here. I've never felt so completely lost, trying to figure out what in the world I was watching. If nothing else, he certainly has one hell of an imagination.

[@blacky_Ninja]

Drugs. The thing he has are definitely drugs. :)

[@michaeljackson2838]

Thank you, I thought I was just a dumb shit!

[@7rob27]

Piano it called Pi-ano because of pi. 🤣😂🤣 This guy is comedy gold.

[@igrim4777]

9:18 The turbidity of the water during a flood event would have an adverse effect on many species of fish who require clear water, let alone the salt water being mixed with fresh water which be detrimental to many types of both marine and aquatic fish.

[@gnosticacademy]

From Marty Leeds: 1) I speak directly against the Bible being a history book. It is not. NONE of it is historical or to be taken at face value. Period. The Bible is a collection of stories/myths based on classic retellings of other ancient myths. Again... NONE OF IT IS HISTORY. The entire lecture from which this 5 minute snippet is from I discuss this at length. Every Sunday we show how these stories are exactly that... STORIES/MYTHS. NOT HISTORY. 2) I do not have a script (like you do), so when I said "The Raven/Crow" is the same, this was simply me mis-speaking. The Raven and Crow come from the Corvidae family, hence why the constellation is called CORVUS. 3) Why would fish need to be aboard the boat, i.e. Pisces? Obviously they wouldn't. Considering this is MYTH and a story relating to the stars, and NOTHING factual... the fact that you even mentioned this shows a total lack of understanding parable and allegory. NONE of this is historically happened. It is a STORY. Did Jonah spend 3 days in the belly of a whale? No, obviously not. Just like all the other wild and outrageous tales in the Bible, myths are written in such a fashion as to encode many layers of meaning. What is the whale Jonah spent time in? It's the constellation Cetus. Again... Nothing historical. Nothing factual. THEY ARE MYTHS/STORIES/PARABLES and ALLEGORIES. How you and this comment section can not understand such actually shows an enormous lack of understanding basic literary devices used within countless classical works of literature. These methods have been used by every great writer from Shakespeare to Edgar Allen Poe. 4) Camelopardlis is formed from the 2 words Camel and Leopard. Camelopardalis, from Greek kamelopardalis "a giraffe," a compound of kamelos "camel" for the long neck, and pardos "leopard, panther." 5) 4:25 and on: Wait, did you actually calculate the size of the boat??? Lol. Why? It's star study. You missed the entire point I was making in this video (That this IS MYTH) and claimed to your audience I was saying it was history. This is either you being insanely disingenuous or just plain retarded. "You would need a boat the size of Monaco?" For what? To fit a myth in it?? Lol. 6) 6:56 - "Literally a dove": Literally definition (informal use): used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while NOT BEING LITERALLY TRUE. 7) 9:03 - "Kind of running out of constellations, there's only 88." You mean to fit aboard an imaginary boat? A boat that ACTUALLY DOESN'T EXIST? Hahaha 8) "What about the lizards, and goats and Buffalo, Marty?" Well, Dan, let me say this again... considering this is just a MYTH and not meant to be a FACTUAL ACCOUNT OF ANYTHING... I guess I don't see the issue. Lol. 9) "I don't understand how somebody, hand on their heart, can say Noah's Ark is a true story... it makes no sense at all." I ask you, how did you get that from this video?? I am correlating elements from a story to ancient star patterns, and actually DENOUNCING any claim it is history. I make this point continually from the lecture this 5 minute video was taken from. I even laugh at people who claim this to be true. The fact that you, and this comment section, couldn't understand that, or even just deduce it from this presentation is truly astounding.

[@igrim4777]

@@gnosticacademy Hey dimwit, I was replying to Dan's comment that fish would be okay in flood water. Your spam doesn't apply to me so fucking pay attention.

[@sventextor1309]

What did the termites live on?

[@sterling4014]

Thanks, Dan, for doing a great job.

[@Ave_Satani]

Even aside from the animals, they needed way more storage for food and water, you could easily double or triple the size of the boat.

[@JonnyDarcko]

Your content never disappoints, thanks man.

[@wmcbrine]

So, this is too dumb to really explain, but... Although creationists broadly deny evolution, they do (at least some of them) recognize the problem of the ark being too small. They also tend to admit that, despite the differences in size, all cats (for example) are almost certainly related -- housecats and tigers alike. So, they emphasize the distinction between "macroevolution" and "microevolution", and define the former as a change between *kinds* (a biblical term you see this guy quote), and the latter as a change within kinds, and permit only the latter. Then, they say that only one pair of each kind needed to be on the boat; and after the flood, they rapidly speciated into what we see today. This of course means that they believe in a kind of evolution that's far more rapid than what really happened! But they gloss over that. What's a "kind"? Well, it's not a scientific classification. It's whatever it needs to be to fit everybody on the ark. But you'll see the term a lot in creationist "research".

[@Korkzorz]

Make your definitions vague enough so that no one can refute them. "Kind"..as if that's a scientific term.. I'll give you a kind of pill for your headache. Or how about a kind of salt for your dinner?

[@petergaskin1811]

Well, with that small a gene pool, no wonder there was so much speciation.

[@kellydalstok8900]

They only came up with their rapid evolution excuse after repeatedly having been lectured about all the problems with their original view. Apologists will come up with any excuse to defend their untenable nonsense.

[@nickryan3417]

A "kind" was however the languages of bronze age societies referred to animals, mostly due to the context in which they lived and the fact that this differentiation was all that was necessary at the time. Hence both birds and bats are "flying stuff about big", entirely different to "insect kind" which was anything else around a certain size that flew, walked or burrowed... naturally including moths, spiders, worms and everything like that.

[@jim.h]

They'll say that God worked a miracle and allowed a kind of evolution to help repopulate the world that god just destroyed because he didn't want to just make all but 8 people on the Earth disappear.

[@Slash1066]

This guy could find meaning in literally anything, what a joker

[@MonkeyJedi99]

A deck of cards has four of each rank, except for the two jokers, which signify the Father and the Son. The other 52 cards represent the 52 weeks of the calendar year. The holy ghost is probably the box the cards come in. I have not worked out all of the details.

[@Slash1066]

@@MonkeyJedi99 Sounds legit

[@Tommyr]

These clowns love straws, they are constantly grasping for them.

[@zugetsui9971]

I implore you to visit the Arc replica in Kentucky, USA. They do cover most all your debuttles. Love the vid still! Love all you content!

[@stylesrj]

The Ark replica which isn't even waterproof and requires huge ventilation towers...

[@riceboychrispy]

You were only accommodating the animals themselves in your calculations Dan. You would also need to account for food storage, including food for the carnivores (more animals?). I think you could at least double the 8.5 million square metres that you mentioned if accounting for food for all of these animals.

[@Llortnerof]

Don't forget that you need space to traverse the various areas as well, room to store supplies and tools for maintaining the ship, pathways to reach all places on the ship needing regular maintenance, room to prepare and distribute the animal feed... And that's not considering all the personnel needed to actually do all of that. Can you imagine the size of crew needed to operate such a vessel? Especially without any automation we have access to today? And that's ignoring that even a 8.5M square metre vessel is already absurd.

[@Terri_MacKay]

And the animals/lizards/amphibians/insects that would be born during the flood.

[@clausderenda5777]

@@Llortnerof No need for food for the carnivores. They were fed the floating bodies of the dead sinners!🤣

[@DemiImp]

Did I miss where he said that the flood actually happened? It sounded like this was basically him explaining how the story of the flood is basically a story told at night where the story teller could point at the constellations as they told the story. It didn't actually happen and is just a fun way to reference the constellations and explain why they are what they are in addition to explaining why some of them are located where they are.

[@helenr4300]

The Gnostic guy is coming from a whole different place to the YECs who would reject him. So whilst good to hear his take it is not a YEC debunking

[@hyperstar1867]

“2 snakes” dude there are over 3 thousand species of snake. But Dan is wrong to dismiss fish needing to go on the arc, as there are over 18 thousand species of fresh water fish, and around half of these can not survive in salt water. So it further makes the story look ridiculous as Noah would need MASSIVE water tanks on his ark to hold all these fresh water fish.

[@mrxmry3264]

the flood story has always been ridiculous, just like the rest of the goat herders' guide to the galaxy.

[@heatshield]

enough room for 36,000 fish isn't even where that would end. The tanks would have to be large enough that the water would have enough oxygen for them the whole time. Might be interesting to look into that and I'm sure it would only take a few minutes. I'm willing to bet the tanks would have to be bigger than the entire boat, even allowing for using plant life in the tanks to produce some oxygen.

[@hyperstar1867]

@@heatshield As someone who keeps an aquarium I totally agree.

[@howardpalys6929]

Back in 2013, a group of engineers studied the dimensions of Noah's Ark put the figures in a computer along with the inverse square law and other advanced mathematics and concluded that while in fry dock Noah's ark would have collapsed under it's own weight.

[@Anonymous-md2qp]

Could you imagine parents sent their children to a school every Sunday, that described in great detail, how Santa’s workshop was constructed at the North Pole by a few dozen elves. How they produced every gift for the entire globe and then distributed it in one night. That is how silly this flood story sounds. Yet, grown adults preach this shit to children.

[@hartmutholzgraefe]

The flood story may have at least some background, e.g. the black sea being flooded when the Bosporus opened up ... that would have been a rather disruptive event for the local cultures. It would have been a large freshwater lake up to that point, then estimated around ca. 5000BCE it would have been flooded by saline water inflow from the Mediterranean and coast levels would have risen substantially and quickly, leaving former thriving coastal civilization centers buried under water. I think it's plausible that such a cataclysmic event would have left traces in local folklore, and eventually found its way into e.g. the Gilgamesh Epic and later the Hebrew Bible ... Santa's workshop on the other hand ... well ...

[@casperthefriendlycookingapple]

Wait, what? Santa's............not...........real..........

[@jim.h]

@@casperthefriendlycookingapple Can't be. Next you're going to say that the Easter Bunny isn't real either.

[@maxmac7845]

He references Genesis, the book that starts with getting the order of "creation" wrong and goes downhill from there. The flood story is plagiarised from earlier flood myths, The Epic of Gilgamesh in particular.

[@phalcon23]

How does it get the order wrong? And why would you say it plagiarized? Hypothetically speaking, if a flood actually happens, who wrote about it first wouldnt really matter because one group wrote about it first doesnt discredit another group writing about it.

[@maxmac7845]

@@phalcon23 I actually state why it was plagiarised. Which part of, "The flood story is plagiarised from earlier flood myths, The Epic of Gilgamesh in particular.", did you not understand? Regarding the order of "creation)...planetary formation requires a gravity well(The Sun), also the LIGHT source, to exist *first* before planets can form from an accretion disk. The "let there be light" quote doesn't make sense because the Sun was there BEFORE the Earth. geddit?

[@phalcon23]

@@maxmac7845 no you stated an opinion that you thought it was plagiarized, but offered no objective evidence as to why. Two groups having the same/similar stories is not objective proof of plagiarism. Both group could have had a common experience, and oral tradition and one group could have simply wrote it down first.

[@phalcon23]

@@maxmac7845 or what's to say gilgamesh wasn't the taken from from another groups oral tradition?

[@maxmac7845]

@@phalcon23 I posted a reply once and included a link to the Epic of Gilgamesh but the KZbin bots wouldn't allow it judging by it's absence. The Epic of Gilgamesh was written a considerable amount of time before the Bible. Chapter 15, if my memory serves me, describes birds being released searching for land and a god telling a family to build a boat to specific dimensions. There are many other similarities to biblical stories you might recognise if you read the Gilgamesh myth. May i suggest reading it and the plagiarism, word for word is obvious. Any thoughts on Genesis getting the order of creation wrong?

[@julianh9347]

"He will literally take anything put some numbers to it to shock and amaze you" I am shocked and amazed, how any sane human could come up with this horse load of rubbish just by imagining numbers everywhere. It is certain that mathematics are the basis of our reality and can describe almost anything perfectly if we figure out how to describe it in those numbers. He sure has not figured it out though.

[@Toms_Channel]

Key words being ‘sane human’

[@markfieten9558]

Apart from the logistical impossibility of the Ark, where did the water covering the earth go?

[@abbey5899]

It fell off the planet. Source: flat earth basketball experiments.

[@markfieten9558]

@@abbey5899 Thanks, completely forgot about that 😉😂

[@CantoraMask]

He just showed a really good explanation for where the story came from...is he arguing for the ark being a myth? I'm not sure why Dan didn't point this out. He seemed too busy making fun of this guy to actually realise what he's saying and take advantage of it. He's pretty much showing that the ark is made up based on astronomy - the same way he's proving the earth is globe lol. Cmon Dan. That's such an easy oversight. Less cheap comments, more intelligent review Edit : added additional context for clarity

[@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596]

Good point 🙋🏼‍♀️

[@spiralmoment]

he showed nothing but a severe case of fuckin stupid. He did so with a fascinating confidence only inherent to true idiots though. Try and watch it again.

[@Lucian_Andries]

Or the other way around! Dunno if that constellation existed during Noah, the boat one... Because there were way less constellations back then, than they are now.

[@chrisantoniou4366]

No, if that was true, he wouldn't be mentioning constellations in the South Celestial Hemisphere because he is also a flat Earther!

[@CantoraMask]

@@chrisantoniou4366 but Dan did point out that he's making a case for thy globe. Why miss the opportunity to point out he's making a case for a myth based on constellations?

[@danacollins2625]

"That means that this big 'boat' needed around 8.5 million square meters of space. That means you would need a boat four times the size of Monaco." That's only if the boat is one meter tall. The ark was 30 cubits (45 feet, or 13.63_ meters) tall. This would be three feet short of four stories on a modern building, but, for the sake of generosity, let's say the ark had eight stories (I hope no one in Noah's family, or any of the animals, were more than six feet tall). With these figures, a boat merely _half_ the size of Monaco would suffice.

[@stylesrj]

So Super Noah's Ark 3D was accurate then? :D

[@quinnsommerfeld7458]

The story he tells is actually a really cool story and I enjoyed hearing it. But believing it as history is another matter entirely.

[@OrbiterElectronics]

LOL... Looking at that beautiful sky whilst the Earth revolves 5:08.. # Not Flat!

[@Fadamor]

The biggest issue I have with the Noah's Ark... arc, is the apparent randomness of how powerful God was. When Moses was trying to free the Israelites from Pharaoh, God was truly amazing - able to target humans with such specificity that ONLY Egyptian first-born sons were killed. Yet apparently during Noah's time God was much less capable. Despite being angry at only humanity, God wiped out the overwhelming majority of land-based creatures (but not the water creatures) because God apparently wasn't able to do what he did for Moses. He had to resort to something as crude as a global flood. All-knowing and All-powerful? Apparently not All-the-time.

[@stylesrj]

Actually He gave the job to an intern and said "Just kill the oldest child in the houses not splashed with lamb's blood... I'm too busy using mind control on this Pharaoh guy over here to bother..."

[@williamcarlin7915]

This is what happens when you give kids trophies for showing up.

[@seandevine3695]

Penguins didn’t go to Antarctica from the Middle East on foot, they were carried by swallows, like a coconut.

[@terranceparsons5185]

African or European swallow?

[@kenlyneham4105]

Most constellations in the southern hemisphere not visible in the north were not named until the 16th century. Orion, Ursa Major, Ursa Minor, Lyra, Cassiopeia, Perseus, Pegasus, Auriga, Hercules, Draco, and the constellations of the zodiac were named by Ptolemy 100 to 170 AD. As to the 'boat' called 'the ark'; It was basically, according to modern standards, a rectangular box, with little structural integrity. The longest wooden ship ever built, the six-masted New England gaff schooner Wyoming, had a "total length" of 137 metres (449 ft) (measured from tip of jib boom (30 metres) to tip of spanker boom (27 metres) and a "length on deck" of 107 m (351 ft). She was built using 90 diagonal iron cross-bracings on each side to add integrity but to no avail, she sank with all hands because the huge number of pumps would not keep up with the water leaking in. The reason was excessive hogging and sagging because of the long lengths of timbers. The animals; They were brought on board 2x2 for the unclean animals, but the 'clean' animals there were 7 pair. A 'clean' animal was one that chewed the cud and had cloven hooves, like sheep, goats, cows etc. Two elephants will eat 116.8 tonnes of food and about 30,000 litres of water in a year. And they need piss and shit a lot. The 'ark', is the biggest bullshit story ever.