"Your Gun Content Saved 2-5 Lives The Other Night." | Reading an Email From a Fan

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[@sky-magnet]

I'm a leftist in the deep south. I always tell people that I'm so far to the left that you get your guns back.

[@redblankie1219]

And after the revolution succeeds, you proceed to confiscate all the firearms

[@sky-magnet]

@@redblankie1219 You never disarm the proletariat under any circumstance.

[@redblankie1219]

@@sky-magnet Ain't that what Stalin did though? And ain't that what the modern Left is trying to do in the US?

[@sky-magnet]

@@redblankie1219 Fuck Stalin.

[@firefly9838]

That's awesome

[@xGoo]

Oh hey it's me! This shit was fucking wild, but I'm glad nobody ended up dead that night. Has been a bit hard on my friend, but I've just sorta... kept moving. Really nice seeing chat reactions, and I thank everyone in the comments and chat for the well wishes :)

[@press8704]

Hope you both feel better soon!

[@aftokratory]

Get well soon!

[@malte3756]

Hi, I remember reading this exact story on reddit a while ago, was that you posting it or did someone copy it, maybe using the news article or whatever? I can't find the post rn, don't know the sub or enough key words, and reddit search is kind of awful

[@curiositypiqued6573]

R u a guns and gaming nut now???

[@xGoo]

@@curiositypiqued6573 Eh, I've been gaming a lot less over the last year and as for guns? I got into building them and the mechanics of how they work but don't actually own any at this point so no lol

[@cageybee7221]

"occasional gunshots to decrease rent" has got to be the most hilarious praxis i've ever heard of, but i want to add to it. don't use blanks, they aren't loud enough. find some rifle grenade cartidges, they are essentially overstuffed blanks meant to fire a whole ass gun mounted grenade with gas pressure. wear earplugs.

[@abluelark]

I grew up shooting guns in rural Utah. They are powerful weapons, for sure. I have thought about owning a gun, however, my mental health is not going to be good enough to own one safely. While I am in good health now, when I get depressed, I reach for self harm. Just putting those thoughts out there for anyone else in a similar situation.

[@TheBigEvil]

Stay strong and safe, a baseball bat can still make a difference.

[@Dante3214]

I know how to shoot, and am extremely low weight and relatively frail. Yet I do not own one despite having treated clinical depression. I just know that.. even if I'm going to have 364 good days, it only takes that one day to make a huge mistake because of an overwhelming emotion. I hope to get to the point to where I KNOW I can own a gun but won't ever use it on myself.

[@KalinTheZola]

Yeah, unfortunately I don't really even have anyone in the house that could hold onto one for me because we're all depressed as shit here lol

[@Oatmilk345]

This helps so much man

[@kylegonewild]

Recognizing that in yourself is important, and like the other guy said, even a sturdy, solid blunt weapon like a baseball bat can make a big difference.

[@wolfythewolf9691]

I 100% support gun ownership and safe gun handling. My only regret is being in absolute poverty and not being able to purchase a firearm personally. Shits getting wild down here in Texas.

[@metalmechanic6664]

Yeah dude. I live near Wichita Falls and the people are getting real agitated and real retarded.

[@deepfriedchocobo]

So let's add more guns to the equation?

[@Aperson156]

I'm in Texas too and have been shooting for over 20 years. If you need tips or anything let me know!

[@asherroodcreel640]

I'm pretty shure you could find one just . . . around, like it is Texas

[@Necroskull388]

Steal one.

[@dynamicworlds1]

Just want to add as a side note, the dude was very lucky. Survival chances drop drastically on the 2nd gunshot wound, statistically speaking, and he got a couple knife wounds on top of that. Getting away with nothing too serious is remarkable!

[@Blackwidow391]

to be fare a boxcutter is not likely to do any serious damage in a struggle but yeah the double gshot with no serious injuries is luuucky

[@gordonstrong5232]

And didn't he say those two shots were in the chest too? He's _insanely_ lucky!

[@GW71093]

@@gordonstrong5232wondering if they were just grazing hits. No way dude would be release from the hospital the next day just “stitched up” after taking two 9s to the chest.

[@Dekubud]

In Canada, if you have a history of suicidal depression, you can own a gun but you need to leave it and its locker at a friend's place (as long as the friend as a license as well) and the friend must be the only one holding the key to the locker. I think that would be a really good compromise for those who want to stay safe but still be able to practice shooting in the US as well! PS: Yes, most gun owners in Canada are hunters lol (most hunt partridge, deer, moose and bear)

[@finnameme8108]

That sounds crazy, if you're going to buy a gun you should have it yourself or just rent guns at the range and use them

[@elbownio5820]

@@finnameme8108 it sounds crazy if you live in a country where you use guns for self defence against other crazy people with guns. In most sane countries guns are used recreationally.

[@filelps1178]

@@finnameme8108 i mean... Canada doesn't need guns for self defense, we're not the USA. Like op here mentioned, most gun owners are hunters. You only hunt for specific seasons of the year so you don't physically need one with you until then. Si for people with a history of depression that would make sense. You'd keep the gun away from you until you're out using it for its purpose, most likely with a hunting club or buddies so you wont be alone.

[@communisticus191]

@@finnameme8108 renting gets expensive really quick, and if its a safety risk for you to keep it in your own house, storing it at a friends place makes perfect sense. especially if your friend is closer to you than a gun range, which is also another place you could store it

[@TouringWolf42]

@@finnameme8108 Canada isn't the US. Canada having sensible gun laws isn't crazy, it's common sense, the reason the US has so many problems is because the government lacks the impulse to regulate what they should regulate.

[@obamabut_based1974]

I just had a conversation with my liberal mother the other day about us both getting guns in our respective houses. She’s been a staunch anti gun advocate since I can remember. She wouldn’t even let us play with you guns when I was little. She’s now coming to the realization that it’s becoming more and more necessary just to have one

[@SmartDave60]

Speaking for yourself why is it required you own a gun?

[@MindForgedManacle]

@@SmartDave60 Because the people threatening to and who attempted to overthrow the government own a f*ckton of guns. Guns which they say are to be used against a government they deem to act corruptly against them. You do not want Conservatives owning literally all the guns if they succeed next time. They already make up every damn militia.

[@SmartDave60]

@@MindForgedManacle ok so you don’t need a gun for personal safety but to preserve democracy. We’re screwed but I hear you🙂

[@dardick1213]

@@SmartDave60 I'm trans in a red state.

[@MindForgedManacle]

@@SmartDave60 I wasn't referring to myself, I was speaking broadly. Also, those people who own guns and want to do a coup also speak quite gleefully of harming minority groups. I belong to multiple such groups, and would like a means of defense should things really go down.

[@litkeys3497]

Vaush is right about the neighborhood defense thing. The reason the Spanish Civil War was a Civil War instead of just a slaughter of the left was that a good amount of people had guns & fought back against the coup attempt at the beginning. Problem was not quite so many privately owned their guns (some of the anarchists in Catalonia did but by no means all) so they had to try to get them from government armories to fight back. It ended up that in places where the government opened the armories, the coup failed, and where they didn't it succeeded. This shit matters

[@idontwantcorporateretaliat6301]

every new day in America reminds me more and more of the Spanish civil war

[@caesarplaysgames]

I mean the Republicans/Communists/Anarchists still lost though....

[@danielr.y5261]

@@caesarplaysgames At the time they got no support from other than the Soviet Union, and in a lesser degree, from Mexico. The Rebels had the Army and the wealthy (thus resourceful) landowners on their side.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

@@caesarplaysgames there are a few factors behind that, including massive animosity between the various left groups as well as interference by the USSR.

[@danielr.y5261]

To be fair, at the time armies were not as far ahead tech-wise from regular civilian gun owners as they're today. Lots of Republicans went to war using hunting rifles, had no extensive military training and still put up three years of a fight. I'm not sure the same could happen nowadays anymore.

[@mechanomics2649]

I would be wary of befriending Doomsday preppers. While they stock up on resources, many of them are shady or have questionable beliefs. Some of them seem to actively want a doomsday scenario to happen, and many of them plan to only shelter their families and reject literally anyone else, hostilely if necessary. Also, while in theory it's ideal to have firearms for defense, the reality is that not everyone has the time and money for neither training nor the gun itself and the legal processes therein.

[@diamondfox1178]

Mixed bag type imo. I don't trust em that much tbh.

[@MindForgedManacle]

It's better to be on their good side though. You shouldn't be a stranger to them if possible. Yes, they usually have horrible beliefs, but we need to be careful to whom we are open with our own politics. They are absolutely more likely to be favorable to you if they know/trust you. Heck, in the situation Vaush described they are more likely to defend the neighborhood even if they know you're a commie. After all, they live there too.

[@LectricVonThunder]

Underrated comment here, there is definitely a pathology behind preppers. Some do it genuinely out of worry of a worst case SHTF type situation but i'd be willing to say most do it with a power fantasy in mind that they will have resources for their select few while they can inflict grievous violence on others.

[@arabiannights5301]

I mean so long as they're not trying to bring about doomsday (whatever that would even mean), who cares if they want it to happen? You would make friends with preppers not because they're great, upstanding and stable people (certainly not the latter), but because they have a shit ton of supplies that nobody else does.

[@hpcraft3362]

Idk guns aren’t really that expensive you can get some pretty decent stuff for under 300$ and if you pick something like 22lr yeah it’s not as powerful but it does the job and it’s very cheap and shotguns are also super affordable, if you’re an adult I promise you can afford it

[@Ryebread06]

I never knew John Wick was a Vaush fan.

[@ihavenoname4139]

I live near Portland, and a few years back there was a trump rally/protest right outside my apartment in the parking lot across the street. One thing i noticed was that almost every car had a gun on the rear window. I had my gun at this point but i kept it hidden as i didn't want to start anything with anyone. Also, the apartment complex i live in is very ethnically diverse, as there's a lot of Syrian refugees living here and a lot of Ethiopian families here as well, so they knew for a fact that they were doing this rally thing to spark racial hatred among the maga protesters/rallygoers. (I say it was a rally but I'm not entirely sure what it was. All i know was that there was a lot of trump flags and a lot of guns and a LOT of noise) Edit: nothing ended up happening except people from my apartment complex looking on in fear because they thought the trumpists we're there to hurt them, and aot of the trumpists throwing out racial slurs at the Ethiopians living here, and screaming at the rest of the people here for allowing "dirty immigrants" to stay here. But eventually they left and no fight ended up breaking out, and no one got hurt. That was the only trump rally type thing that's ever happened right by my apartment complex

[@CloppingIsMyThing]

Good thing Mr hero here was there to protect all the refugees with his gun right? This comes to the crux of the entire problem with guns. The stories that vaush tells doesn't help either.

[@ihavenoname4139]

@@CloppingIsMyThing i didn't bring my gun out. I just watched from a distance

[@CloppingIsMyThing]

@@ihavenoname4139 "I had my gun at that point, but kept it hidden" Huh. Is my English failing me?

[@ihavenoname4139]

@@CloppingIsMyThing nah i just misspoke. I meant that i had bought it already and kept it in my bag with the lock on it, therefore it's "hidden"

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Yeah rally is a good word for that...like in Nuremberg Rally

[@ryanrockwell2245]

You know the story is true because the guy mentions it's a Hi Point, and then the article mentions when police found the gun, one the casing didn't fully eject from the slide.

[@ellagage1256]

Probably tried dampening the recoil, that's more of a revolver technique

[@Blackgriffonphoenixg]

​@@ellagage1256 Hey, you're pretty good

[@God_gundam36]

You know this dude is a real champion when he went out of his way not to kill him because of what it might do to his son to see his dad shot dead even tho he was a deadbeat abusive pos. While the dad was willing to murder his mom right in front of his face or even worse.

[@TheRoseThorn]

I'm not a gun owner, but with any weapon, my goal would be to disable instead of kill. It's partially because I don't want to be another statistic of a POC getting arrested for justified self defense, but also I think I would get mentally fucked from killing someone

[@luci_ix5181]

Ngl I fine that part of the story kinda suspect like he wasn't trying to kill him but admitted to shooting him in the face?

[@Creationweek]

@@luci_ix5181 honestly, that's not suspect if you know anything about firearms. This dude admitted to knowing that you need to shift the safety because of a youtube video. He had no idea what he was doing. It's lucky he didn't want to kill the guy because if he didn't have a clear shot he probably would have hit his friend. Even as a trained marksman I would be hesitant to take a shot when two people are grappling. And would need to be dead sure I wasn't going to hit my friend. I have no idea where he was aiming when he did shoot the guy, but there is no way he was aiming for the face. there is no such thing as shooting to injure. Fire arms are no simple tool. Every shot is to kill no mater what your feelings are, if you can actually reliably shoot to injure you are a professional marksman likely at the level of a military sniper or better.

[@Sir.Craze-]

That part is kinda bull but whatever. It's an epic story, he gets one xD In the moment with that kind of adrenaline you can't hit a cheek as opposed to the skull beside it. During a scuffle? I'm sorry. Dosent ruin it just stuck out to me a little xD

[@luci_ix5181]

@@Creationweek maybe I misheard but I thought vaush read that the guy said he hit exactly where he wanted too. But I do agree with you that if you pull the trigger make sure its to kill them because the only timen you should pull it on another person is if you need to lethaly defend your life (which I think was the case in this story)

[@HuntressMarcy]

Nice its really cool that Vaush managed to encourage someone to learn basic firearms training that actually came in handy

[@Limbaugh_]

Encourage

[@ItzSandman]

r/Boneappletea But yeah it's good advice

[@HuntressMarcy]

@@Limbaugh_ Thanks, didn't notice that typo

[@Nerobyrne]

Notice how the person didn't have a gun I think, but even knowing how to use one was helpful. I honestly don't know why every teenager isn't taught proper gun safety in a country where firearms are everywhere.

[@normandy2501]

@@Nerobyrne Likely because people are either too scared of them, or suffer from 10 different mental illnesses coming out of high-school and could barely handle shutting their phone off for a day.

[@traceyrice4978]

If you believe him, Beau doesn't have any guns at his house anymore. He organized a community armory.

[@sundalius]

IIRC Beau also isn't legally allowed to own them

[@FelisImpurrator]

@@sundalius Why not?

[@traceyrice4978]

@@FelisImpurrator some sus human trafficking charge. The complete story is hard to find. If I remember correctly, he worked with some people who smuggled people into the US and then took their passports so they couldn't leave. Idk how involved he actually was with the shady stuff.

[@1OtherMr]

@@traceyrice4978 some source would be nice

[@akheilosshadowhunter7355]

@@traceyrice4978 yeah I remember this I think. Was weird as fuck to find out.

[@Bagel920]

Back in high school I had a debate about whether or not guns being freely available were bad, i was for gun control and stricter laws. A large part of the Pro-Gun argument was that a “good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun”, I challenged that logic by stating that we couldn’t know who was good or bad until that person started using that gun for its purpose. These days I’m seeing more “bad guys with guns”, and while I hate to say I agree with the pro gun argument, perhaps they were right. What’s even funnier is the people I was against are now devout trumpists, probably the crowd of people that we can fit squarely into the “bad guys with guns” category.

[@RevolutionaryLoser]

I know nobody cares but isn't Trump the one president that actually took people's guns away?

[@redblankie1219]

Trump people aren't bad guys with guns. You'll find most of the good guys with guns are mostly conservative or Republican by nature

[@alrecks619]

from now on, every messages sent to voush must have anythIng related to elden ring.

[@ionlyusepics]

I beat malenia and got the platin trophy whilst listening to this stream

[@fumarc4501]

The real takeaways here.

[@d3vitron779]

Dear vaush, your based takes took me down the path of pure str. Have a blessed day thx

[@emmeranneperez3634]

I'm a usually depressed person because of my transness, but Im not super afraid about me committing suicide because of the love I get from my family. I want to train in using guns and being safe with them. I live in the east side of Washington, and Can 100 percent agree that most of the right wing here would be fine with shooting me because I'm trans. I think if you're apart of a minority you should be trained in how to use a gun and be ready to protect yourself. the right wing is waiting for any chance they can to "get rid of the degenerates in America", so be armed and prepared to have to protect yourself in the near future.

[@bloodenigma5779]

I mean if there’s a risk I still wouldn’t take that risk

[@emmeranneperez3634]

@@bloodenigma5779 I mean the only self harm I've done is abusing weed, and if I was suicidal I would want no guns in my house.

[@Berlinbower]

Jesus christ man.

[@redblankie1219]

"Transness" Just go outside

[@water1374]

@@redblankie1219 You know you're an idiot right?

[@afroponix3414]

See the thing is, situations like that *always* seem surreal

[@dandelion2284]

That is indeed the case, especially if you are in them.

[@Chaindustries]

It is always a little disturbing as someone who lives in a mostly gun-free country, to realise how much you actually need a gun for your protection when living in the US.

[@busbee247]

its not true... buying a gun statistically increases the odds of getting shot with a gun. gun ownership doesnt protect anyone. this is a myth that is continually perpetuated

[@natedawg912]

We’re basically still the Wild West except we have cars now

[@Masaru_kun]

it sucks that regular people have to learn to wield guns just because there's a bunch of crazies around with guns. that's not a problem most of the world has to deal with

[@M.M.83-U]

I do not know most of the world, but can assure you in Europe lots of extremist (both political and religious) plus the mob have access to firearms both legally and by smuggling. Only onest average people are unable or unwilling to buy weapons.

[@pissfather6798]

depends on where in the world, plenty of examples like myanmar where students and regular joes are arming themselves in the jungle and building home-made rifles to protect themselves and their friends from a military dictatorship. this shit can happen pretty much anywhere

[@christophergreen6595]

Literally: the only reason I want a gun is because of all the crazy people with guns :( This is America.

[@fumarc4501]

I see it like this; “hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst.” That’s how I rationalize my moral misgivings. Cuz you know what they say about what happens to people who live by the sword…

[@xbabu142x]

Most of the world has to deal with large currency value fluctuations and no access to a Emergency Room. No rights if you're the wrong caste and the list goes on and on. When you compare conditions in the US to the rest of the world, realize that they don't have the financial stability and public safety brought about by your military and dollar.

[@AniMana21]

I already have constant anxiety over thinking I left the stove on or the front door unlocked. If I had a gun in the house, I'd be endlessly double checking that the gun is unloaded every 5 minutes

[@fmleverynameistakenx]

Sounds a bit like ocd my friend

[@cookie5535]

Once you get comfortable and trained with firearms that feeling goes away very quickly.

[@AniMana21]

@@cookie5535 I'd be inclined to believe you if that feeling had ever gone away with the stove.

[@fumarc4501]

There’s no getting comfortable with guns. The moment one stops treating it like a responsibility, is the moment you’ve become a danger to yourself and others.

[@MindForgedManacle]

Keep the ammo on you. No need to worry if it's unloaded at that point.

[@jlp6864]

Vaushs content also made me less afraid of guns. I live in Germany so it makes no sense for me to actually own a gun however we also have our far right groups and knowing that I can at least fire a gun safely has gotten more important to me. It's a skill i legitimately am happy to have.

[@christophergreen6595]

Gawd, those stories about the supremacist cell that infiltrated the military and were stealing weapons... I'm sure it's rampant here too, but yikes!

[@thomasdendtler4077]

I agree that leftists owning and training with guns is really useful but I still believe strong regulations in the meantime. There are just too many people who are unfit to own any firearm that have whole arsenals.

[@XanKreigor]

There should be at least like a mandatory yearly or bi-yearly mental evaluation of "Are you mentally stable enough to keep your gun and not be a threat to yourself and others?" but then again this is the USA we are talking about, their healthcare system is abyssmal and their mental healthcare is even worse.

[@redblankie1219]

@@XanKreigor So, with this continuing psych eval, would the only people owning guns be the elites who want the peasants to stay unprotected?

[@JAndersonGhost0326]

According to a study I got from Beau TFC, it takes 20 soldiers per 1,000 civilians to occupy a territory assuming limited resistance. If the people are armed and actively resisting, that number goes up dramatically. See Ukraine as an example.

[@audeon_visual]

I think I live in an area that could possibly be supportive of right-wing militias, and it's really disturbing. I know that they probably detest us even though I've known a lot of these people since I was really young. The idea of possessing a firearm is super disconcerting to me, but my family and I are pretty much in agreement that it's a step that we may need to take.

[@christophergreen6595]

Most people are fine, despite their shit opinions... but those opinions provide cover for the 1-2% who will, for instance, beat up a gay couple outside a country bar. Or just set a gay bar on fire.

[@silverleafjr2887]

Get PSA Ar15s! Relatively cheap, reliable, easy to use, ammo everywhere. And take rifle classes too. We are all in this together!

[@audeon_visual]

​@@silverleafjr2887 I really appreciate the recommendation! I completely agree about taking classes. That didn't even occur to me.

[@silverleafjr2887]

@@audeon_visual Spread the word ❤

[@audeon_visual]

@@silverleafjr2887 most definitely!

[@noahramsey]

We’re all gonna make it comrades. When shit goes down in this country we’re all in it together ❤️

[@Azrael_Garou]

Strange, I haven't heard any recent news on the demise of any far-right leaders. What are we all in together, exactly? In for yet another mass shooting, I guess.

[@normandy2501]

I'd rather take my fam and leave personally. They're my priority first.

[@noahramsey]

@@normandy2501 To each their own 🫡

[@Overonator]

Jesus let's start a paypal or gofundme so the girl can do better than a Hi-Point. But a Hi-Point is better than nothing and if that's what you can afford that's perfectly adequate to do the job as we see here in this story.

[@defaultlogos2976]

To be fair to Hi-Point, it worked. Atleast the sights didn't fly off from the recoil or something like that.

[@MindForgedManacle]

Yea a glock 19 or something would be way more reliable, Not liable to shoot backwards at the owner.

[@diamondfox1178]

Well, at least it's a disposable gun...

[@turnipgreen6280]

@@diamondfox1178 Hi-Points fall apart so fast the thing is damn near bio-degradable, a little moisture and poof.

[@arabiannights5301]

Maybe a gofundme to pay for therapy would be money better spent. Being hunted, savagely beaten and nearly murdered by your ex before having him be shot and run off is going to leave scars that no bigger and better gun can mend. If she's ever even in a situation again where a gun is necessary that will mean every other method of recourse has failed, better to avoid the situation entirely than have a slightly better chance at blowing someone's brains out when everything else has already gone wrong...

[@TheBigEvil]

GUYS DONT TRASH ON HI POINT TOO HARD ITS AN AFFORDABLE FIREARM FOR PEOPLE TO ARM THEMSELVES. IT IS A PROLETARIAN HERO WEAPON!

[@defaultlogos2976]

Affordable, but it is difficult not to bully. My first experience with a Hi-Point was when I saw my buddy, who just bought it, shoot it down range and the sights broke off the from the recoil and hit him in the eye.

[@MindForgedManacle]

@@defaultlogos2976 Truly the ACME of guns

[@TheBigEvil]

@@defaultlogos2976 thats incredible. My first experince with a hi-point was picking it up after my buddy wrestled the mugger to the ground.

[@defaultlogos2976]

@@TheBigEvil Hope you or your buddy wasn't hurt.

[@TheBigEvil]

@@defaultlogos2976 we both got shot, I a piece of my pelvis bown was blown off and had the pieces removed but otherwise I was fine and my buddy got shot 3 times and lost a kidney but due to quick paramedics he survived. The mugger however did not.

[@ryanmaxwell3589]

The most cringe part about this is the hi-point 9mm, but I guess it is technically a gun.

[@sandollor]

Haha, thought the same thing.

[@braydenkenney3313]

Something is always better than nothing.

[@Cullinyan]

Shame Vaush's gun content didn't save 18-19 lives today in Texas.

[@cathittingfatvapereal1954]

Shame the fact that the cops you trust to stop shooters and enforce your gun laws didn’t either.

[@iceyroo]

What a story, this is a certified Vowsh classic.

[@aloreantherogue4439]

if "Your Gun Content Saved 2-5 Lives The Other Night." | Reading an Email From a Fan is so good why no " "Your Gun Content Saved 2-5 Lives The Other Night." | Reading an Email From a Fan 2?

[@claudis.4015]

@@aloreantherogue4439 While we work on the cinematic universe let's do a part 3 as well. And let's not forgot the very necessary prequel, too. We need to know how the villain came to be. You know, like Disney redoing its old, old classics.

[@aloreantherogue4439]

@@claudis.4015 ya that sounds great except for the life action remakes don't do that they are mega cringe and poopy

[@astralflick]

I live in a hard right rural town and everyone here knows I’m a socialist. My friend said I can stay in his basement when the 4th reich comes though lmao

[@akaroth7542]

You need to talk less then. People shouldn't know if it can be helped.

[@astralflick]

@@akaroth7542 I’ve been able to pull many people to the left, actually. I have however in that process made it clear what my beliefs are. I am still pretty respected in the community regardless due to athletics, and I was sort of kidding, they probably wouldn’t try to kill me if America went full Nazi Germany.

[@grandsome1]

Switch it around and say you're a populist, pro-democracy extremist, pro-self relience. (that basically describes an anarchist, but you get my gist)

[@arabiannights5301]

Sounds crazy, but worst case scenario you could start telling people that you've converted to conservatism and you've 'seen the error of your ways'. If you're perceived to be a reformed ex-lefty, you should be left alone, and if you watch Vaush you probably know right-wing talking points well enough to parrot them whenever necessary.

[@tripledigit4835]

Just say you’re a super capitalist. That you support private ownership for all, not just the people at the top

[@EmpressEris]

I grew up in a very rural Northern town. Everyone hunted, fished, went shooting and was taught to do so. It was a very conservative area, but very Union friendly. Firearm ownership is a major component to anyone who lives there. So I never had to be talked into firearm ownership. I have many firearms. I’ve trained/practiced/had safe usage more times than I can count. I will always support people being friendly to firearm ownership, and becoming accustom to them. People who own firearms and don’t have any experience with them might as well not have them at all. Train and practice.

[@tripledigit4835]

This is why I disliked David Pakman’s position on guns. He considers liberals to get guns so that conservatives don’t have all the guns yet only wants liberals to use the guns when absolutely necessary. So liberals have the firearm but not train with it or understand how it operates or know when it’s best to fight and best to flee, the gun becomes useless and you’re more likely to get yourself killed.

[@duckmcluck6911]

Was that a cool neighbourhood?

[@henriquepacheco7473]

@@duckmcluck6911 Rural northern town sounds downright cold rather than cool, but who knows?

[@frostbite3318]

Hi Points are for situations where you have to toss the gun afterwards

[@dragonslaya16]

A true American classic

[@tabryis]

They're legit made of pan metal

[@idkwhattohaveasausername5828]

All fax. Hi Points are the dollar store equivalent of guns

[@Gragoroth]

Remember, chucking your weapon at the enemy is faster than reloading.

[@diamondfox1178]

@@smallcorvid bold of you to assume the average ownee wouldn't spend more money fixing the thing after firing 7 rounds through it. Like you, I'd rather drop an extra 200 and get a glock if I was strapped for cash tbh

[@kronikkronolov9793]

I was typing out "police report or this didn't happen" when he said there was going to be an article.

[@erisofterra8986]

I had a gun pulled on me not too long ago. Knowing to act quick and always take that shit seriously might've saved my life.

[@Phoboskomboa]

The way you said that makes it sound like you died.

[@erisofterra8986]

@@Phoboskomboa :)

[@tripledigit4835]

What did you do?

[@erisofterra8986]

​@@tripledigit4835 I assessed the situation in a moment. There were three people- me, the woman pointing a gun at my face (previously at my back as she approched), and her sister (my girlfriend.) I knew she wasn't going to shoot her sister, and being a knowledgeable gun enjoyer I understand that the employment of a gun in any way immediately puts at risk any bystanders, so I quickly figured by best bet was to employ Joseph Joestar's secret weapon. I Gumped it out the back of the property faster than you ever did see, over two barbed wired fences and UNDER a third. Who the FUCK puts barbed wire UNDERNEATH a fence? Whoever put the fences up next to the highway in Dade City Florida. So basically her sister commandeered the house because despite being given a court order to appear for an AGGREVATED ASSAULT charge and NOT having her name on any deed, bill, or lease, the cops figured they'd let her stay... which is nice. We are now stuck in a much less favorable living situation until she either pays rent so we can afford things or gets evicted so we can move back in. BTW For context she is a textbook narcissist who has long abused her sister and lashed out violently when she began losing control. Her sister (my lovely gf) is a disabled veteran with PTSD. Funnnntastic shitttt

[@melaniey.5596]

Holly damn the stories out there because psychos who should not have guns have guns.... I’m glad at least that you are here to share that story with us. Hope yours and your gf situation improve :)

[@enny43_]

they should submit this story to the NRA's stupid ass collection of anecdotal stories that defy statistics

[@mazazon]

I'm in Canada. Carrying anything for self defense (carrying anything for the purpose of using it as a weapon) is illegal. The rule is looser in the home. Still we have something colloquially called the law of escalation, self-defense needs to be "proportional". If they come at you with a knife, a knife or lesser weapon is ok but you can't respond with a gun. In fact, hand guns are illegal to carry anywhere but the home and the range, you require another permit to transport the weapon to the range and you must take a reasonably direct path to the range if the gun is on you while travelling. Other self defense tools are acceptable only if you can justify their use as tools ie: a chef can carry a kitchen knife to and from work but not on a walk through the park during their day off. It's very contextual. It's important to never say a particular item is for self-defence. it needs to be a walking stick that happens to be ideally weighted, or a handy pocket knife you typically use for cutting open boxes and letters.

[@mazazon]

Though in my investigations of self defense laws in Canada the #1 advice is overwhelmingly. Be aware enough to avoid violent situations, RUN if you fail at that, and if you somehow end up in a situation where running isn't an option... A weapon is better than nothing but still, use it to make an opening to RUN.

[@dankbreh9013]

The problem with proportional self defense is that it depends entirely on equal physical abilities which is almost never the case. Criminals prey on the weak.

[@camerongalles8617]

Must be nice being a criminal and protected by the government lol

[@craigstephenson7676]

You are more likely to die from a gun if you have one in your household because of suicide and accident (mostly suicide). if you are not at risk for suicide and the gun is out of reach from any abusive or unstable people, it only makes you safer.

[@MindForgedManacle]

Keeping the gun but giving say a roommate the ammo might be a workable situation. Either the gun and/or ammo needs to be in a safe though. The gun can still be brandished as a threat if there's a sudden intruder.

[@telepathyclub]

Men who own handguns are eight times more likely to die of gun suicides than men who don’t own handguns, and women who own handguns are 35 times more likely than women who don’t. It's also worth mentioning that successful gun suicides outnumber every other method of suicide combined despite not being the most widely used method. Intentional drug overdoses are the most widely used suicide method but are only fatal 3 percent of the time. People who attempt suicide and survive generally only make one attempt and never attempt again. 85 percent of suicide attempts with a gun are fatal. Also it's worth emphasizing that suicide with a gun is irreversible once the trigger is pulled, while other common methods can be reconsidered and stopped partway through and help can be sought. Suicide is an extremely impulsive action the majority of the time, any amount of friction you create between impulse and action saves lives. I think the vast majority of people should reconsider owning a gun.

[@craigstephenson7676]

@@telepathyclub do you think the vast majority of people are likely to consider and attempt suicide?

[@telepathyclub]

@@craigstephenson7676 Suicide is an impulsive behavior, I think almost everybody gets suicidal (or violent) thoughts at some point in their life. With a gun you can take that impulse and cause irreparable damage to yourself or others in seconds, whereas with other methods of suicide you generally need to plan it out, have a great deal of resolve and it's generally able to be reversed partway through. And you might be able to say you're mentally stable at the point of purchase, but is that going to stay true for the entire period of owning the gun? You losing your job or going through a divorce or some other hardship could lead to you having thoughts of killing yourself and if you have an easy method of doing it you're dramatically more likely to go through with it.

[@craigstephenson7676]

@@telepathyclub I understand that but also if it’s a momentary impulse then I feel like most people would be smart enough to give their gun to a friend or put it somewhere else safe if something like that were to happen. Especially if you tell people to do that as a part of gun safety.

[@RevolutionaryLoser]

I just have to imagine the guy getting picked up by paramedics with two gunshots and two stab sounds: you should see the other guy.

[@emilynelson5985]

Beau has a Video on this red button for January 6th situation. They had a mobilization and were ready to fully clear the building in the most serious sense of the phrase.

[@blue6619]

I don’t think it’s bad to learn to fire a gun, for example it’s similar to drive a car. If I’m cases like I am in the UK or an anti-gun country learning some martial arts are often pretty decent to learn! Self defence is good when used in the right context

[@northernnaysayer1240]

@Blue 100%, though as a fellow Brit I will say you can get a gun if you join a gun or shooting club, have a look. I will admit that it's almost prohibitively expensive but if you save up you could join one and get some training done at the least. Also an FYI, legally everyone in the UK is legally entitled to own a shotgun and provided you have a genuine reason(live on a farm or in a club), so long as you don't have a criminal record and have a gun and separate ammo safe they HAVE to give you a licence by law. This is little known law in the UK and is kept that way so the wealthy are the only ones that can easily own a shotgun.

[@blue6619]

@@northernnaysayer1240 Oh wow, i never knew that! I'm not suprised that shotguns still have laws allowing for their usage, single chamber rifles i think allowed in some parts of ireland? For farming reasons? Not sure how accurate that is! Nice to hear from a fellow brit :p

[@blue6619]

@@keirfarnum6811 Ah, my bad :(

[@PackRatManiac]

Honestly as violent as this was, I'm glad they made it out alive. We had a murder/suicide near me involving a family that didn't end that way. Plus a stabbing of a wife/teacher then husband committed suicide in jail. I think it's wise for people to be prepared especially if they have an abusive partner.

[@luci_ix5181]

Vaush reading serious story Me: hears hi point 😭😭😭😭

[@iandavis7135]

There are locations (many are FFL dealers) that will store guns for you. Several states have gone as far as putting together a map of places people can have their firearms stored outside of their home. Finding that kind of information can be difficult, so a reputable firearms dealer can help you find a place that will. Military personnel frequently use this option during their deployments.

[@Skinnybalto]

I remember seeing a post from this guy on r/196 when this first happened, it’s an absolutely crazy story, glad he’s alright

[@Azrael_Garou]

Very important; NEVER GIVE WARNING WHEN TRAINING A FIREARM AT A THREAT, this includes verbal or warning shots. All this does is give the threat more time to further endanger you or others. These people are incredibly lucky they survived the ordeal, and if it were me, the dude's grey matter would be all over that room.

[@MaleckinJinx]

If I owned a gun, i am the statistic that would contemplate using it on myself everyday. still, some people should definitely own guns and some people should definitely not own guns.

[@triomegazero]

I'm not sure anyone has really understood what I mean when I say there is only one person I would use a gun on. Hence why I own none.

[@fumarc4501]

I know how to clean, aim, and store one, but I’m still not a fan of them. Progressive, but not anti-gun. I just prefer being bulletproof and using misdirection. I am happy that the friend being attacked didn’t take the shot. Showed more control than most US police.

[@ethan_1442]

The emailer is a literal video game protagonist, and I 100% believe the story…..based king 🤴

[@dylanstacey6782]

It's a shame they were compassionate enough to not pull the trigger when they had the opportunity to get a headshot and end it. Someone who breaks into a house with the specific intent to murder another person does not deserve to be spared.

[@leyrua]

They explained why they didn't. They didn't want to cause excessive trauma to their friend. I realized that it's easy to take an objective view on this and say "yeah, that person shouldn't be alive anymore", but people in abusive situations can still have a strong emotional bond to the abuser, and may suffer tremendous grief if their abuser is killed (psychology is weird like that). Not to mention the trauma from seeing a person die _right in front of you_ (speaking from personal experience). It wasn't about sparing HIM, it was about sparing HER.

[@dylanstacey6782]

@@leyrua you can go through therapy to recover from a traumatic experience. You can't recover from being murdered. On top of that, I imagine having your ex break into your house and try to murder you and almost actually succeed would be pretty traumatic in and of itself

[@Mrwizard-ck7oe]

@@leyrua I'd personally find it more traumatic to know a person like that is still out there and getting out of prison in a few years, potentially looking for revenge

[@Sparten7F4]

Like, i'm super glad no one died, but... 'Hey, a gun solved this problem brought about solely by gun proliferation!' is not a point in the favor of that proliferation. The attacker should have never been able to own any of this shit.

[@bulletsandbracelets4140]

Ehh, like he said though - we can't really stop them from having it right now. If we can that's a whole other conversation, but for now, this is the situation that we live in. I definitely don't blame people for being worried and feeling safer knowing they can defend themselves.

[@Sparten7F4]

@@bulletsandbracelets4140 My dude, the people in this got by through LUCK, not a gun. Almost this entire fight, the only gun that factored in was the one the guy got shot BY. A few inches in any direction, he's dead. There are a million and one things that we can do to curb the gun problem this country has. And it starts with not pretending that ninety percent of the time, a gun won't help you in any way.

[@Lala-io9gn]

As an American, I live in a gun filled world hurtling towards violent fascism. It's either, you own a gun and stand chance against right-wing militias, abusive EXs, and psycho lynch mobs, or you don't and you have a far lesser chance. If guns weren't so common in America, I think things would be better off. But they are common, and we can't act like people who need guns owning them is making the problem worse.

[@Sparten7F4]

@@Lala-io9gn Again, literally in this story, a loaded gun was OUT and READY. And was LITERALLY only useful by sheer stark fucking luck. But hey. I'm sure your scatter gun or whatever the fuck will help you when fascism takes root and a fucking APC rolls up on you. Or, like, any prepared group at all. And I'm sure that negates that the problem in this story was gun proliferation... Somehow.

[@verager2493]

@@Sparten7F4 A million and one ideas that aren't going to happen. The cops are almost entirely pro 2A and would cover for the militia groups, assuming they aren't already in them (a lot are). Gun control is one of the few things the establishment dems actually push, but they are, at their core, worthless shills. Guns are here, and if we don't have the political will for even a basic infrastructure bill, we sure as hell don't have the ability to deal with more guns than we have people currently in circulation

[@Rexini_Kobalt]

hi-points are like borderlands guns, you might as well just throw it once the mag is empty

[@ahh_yes_mr_bax]

I happen to be an ex infantryman combat veteran (as much as that really means anything) and my subjective view is that limitations should exist and everyone owning a firearm is completely insane. I agree with Vaush’s takes on subject such as these quite often. This was a wild ride of a video, from start to finish as far as what was discussed and my previous views i used to hold on them.

[@JaqAlexander]

I live in Eastern WA (Tri-Cities) and I can confirm that it's basically Klan Land. I have stories and pictures/video, screenshots, recordings. You wouldn't believe how fucked it is over here if I started telling stories. I am currently doing everything I can to escape with my family.

[@duckmcluck6911]

What do you mean?Is there a lot of crime going on? Are the authotities aware of it?

[@JaqAlexander]

@@duckmcluck6911 No, there's just a shit ton of racists and white nationalists and naturally the "authorities" are aware, because basically all of the police are too. Literally a shit ton of anti-science, anti-vaccine, proto fascists that openly call for the deaths of LGBTQA+, Black/brown, immigrants, leftists, atheists etc. Not even 50 years ago, the town I live in (Kennewick) was a sundown town and most of the people who ran it are still alive today. There are right wing militias, we have plaques and streets named after confederate soldiers. I can't even count how many death threats I've received because of my appearance or identity, all of which of course aren't responded to.

[@duckmcluck6911]

@@JaqAlexander Holy shit that's insane,do you have any friends that have your back? There's not much that i can do to help you but I hope things get better,have a good day!

[@zPencilPirate]

Eeeeyy, I just discovered Beau's channel! Love him.

[@Jechti307]

As someone who was Sewer Slidal most of there life. HAVING access to that option made it 100% easier to resist. Like telling my self one more day, Or until _____ thing is over was actually held weight mentally when I knew I could just check out. I know this doesn't apply to everyone. But, Let's be real each and every one of these "I don't trust my self" types has access to a car, bridge,. When your ready, Your ready the MEANS doesn't matter except how much of a chance you wanna give some poor EMT.

[@journeymanic9605]

My aunt who I consider a "doomer-liberal" (headache of contradictions I'll explain if asked) is at least gun pilled, but she's afraid of having any for honestly a reason I can't argue with I guess. My cousin is special needs, and she's concerned having a gun in the house could lead to an accident no matter how well she preps it. I on the other hand am too broke to buy groceries most of the time let alone range time and an actual fire arm. Hopefully I'll get a windfall that'll let me get some safety training time or something.

[@zacheryeckard3051]

I'd love to hear more about the doomer-liberal, please!

[@zPencilPirate]

Stuff like this is a reason why community armories are a good idea. I keep going back and forth on getting a gun, because I'd like to have one but also I sometimes have suicidal episodes where the ready availability of a gun in my house would make things way too easy.

[@journeymanic9605]

@@zacheryeckard3051 so imagine someone who expounds liberal attitudes, but at the same time thinks all we can really do is float along at our present level of societal cohesion because humans are too selfish and stupid to make the world a better place and that we can do nothing to keep the world from falling apart. There's this terminal pessimism that seems to make them go mad when anyone suggests an improvement or adaptive measure. The world is a lost cause and always has been. It's terribly depressing. Also is there a level of terfdom that would rather see gender abolished than fully value transpeople? Because she might be that. Mission failed successfully, I guess? Though now that I think about it since she sees societal change as fleeting that could just be the ultimate goal post move. Not sure. Either way, I think the ideology boils down to bigots are too powerful to beat, so enjoy what we've achieved already while it lasts before they inevitably kill us all.

[@journeymanic9605]

@@zPencilPirate yeah, that's my only other worry as well. If I get one it'll likely never leave a lock box unless the world "ends" or I'm at the range.

[@annabellehe4307]

Why wouldnt a locked safe work in that situation?

[@runagaterampant]

Good video. Being prepared is good actually. You don't have to be and probably shouldn't be a crazy prepper, but stuff like getting to know your neighbors, learning how to use a gun, basic first aid skills etc. are fine things to do and a lot of it can be good even if shit doesn't hit the fan.

[@timetaker7816]

I was very anti gun for a long time until I went to the range with my "libertarian" older brother and realized 1. How safe they are and 2. How many right wingers own guns and how little lefties do. I don't think that a handgun or assault rifle are as practical in realistic situations, but I think a shotgun can be a good deterrent and be used to deescalate a situation more successfully because most situations of violence occurs between people who have a history together so I think it's more likely to be foreseeable.

[@lordpessimism]

They're "safe" in the sense that they increase the risk of suicide for you and everyone who lives with you, with no actual benefit.

[@AstraAnima]

you think handguns aren't practical? what?

[@felicityc]

A firearm never de-escalates a situation, are you serious? Firearms ALWAYS escalate situations several degrees. Please dont joke yourself into thinking one form of murder is less escalatory than another.

[@somerandommen]

I'll allow the brainrotted "handguns aren't practical" because it's likely you aren't knowledgeable.

[@MindForgedManacle]

@@felicityc A gun in 1 party's hand will tend to deter action by the other party, especially if they're unarmed. If you're the innocent party and you choose to brandish, it's because the other most likely escalated it to the point your safety was in jeopardy.

[@vampire_vandal]

i love the one chatter who said "least strong vaushite" lmao

[@jimmyramos1989]

“People can lie with statistics” like when you use the knife stats in England?

[@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty]

1 person with a gun on a bus of 30 passengers, they own they fuckin bus. 10-30 people with a gun on a bus of 30 passengers, it's mutually assured destruction.

[@zant2146]

Same reason why nuclear weapons are based. Everyone has it, no one's ever gonna use it. If they do, then at least we won't be going down begging

[@BONETOASTER1111]

Wow, I heard about this around the time it happened, crazy to think it was connected to Vowsh somehow. Cool to see it come up again.

[@marginis]

Guns are bad. They lead to killing and hurting, because they are tools designed to kill and hurt. But knowledge is never bad. Knowing how guns work and how to shoot is good. Being prepared for emergencies is also good. There are emergencies where guns can be used for good, despite inherently being bad. Owning a gun is therefore good. But the enthusiasm for guns and the gathering of guns must be measured. Once one starts stockpiling guns it turns from reasonable preparedness to proliferation of killing instruments; Owning tools is fine but being a gun nut doesn't help anyone. I am a gun owner, but I like to think I'm the responsible kind. Almost every conservative I work with has a ton of guns despite being worse at aiming and responsibility than me, and almost every liberal I know that wants guns just wants the ability to feel powerful despite not knowing the first thing about guns. I try to learn from their negative examples.

[@CaptainPrincess]

Guns are just tools Im not gonna give you some "guns dont kill people!" speech Im very in favour of gun control but we cant let ourselves be tricked into thinking the tool itself has any morality or intent they are tools, made for a purpose a bad purpose to be sure but a tool is a tool the point of gun control is not to keep the bad evil guns locked away its keep these dangerous tools out of the hands of people who cant be trusted with them the same as a driver's license

[@bear798]

The thumbnail is killing me lmao

[@RandarTheBarbarian]

I've long been an advocate for those I care about be own guns, extenuating circumstances permitting. I've taken my friends to the range and taught them to shoot, some have since purchased their own firearms the others know where to go if things get bad... Considering where I'm at I may be outnumbered in a left/right fight though...

[@Nalisification]

I use to be antigun but material circumstances have changed.

[@DarthAzabrush]

14:16 "I suggest a full frontal assault with a battalion of fully automated laser monkeys"- Strax

[@huntersmith2130]

and then everyone clapped…

[@jamesmitch9792]

the only thing that stops a good guy with a gun is two bad guys with guns. the self defense part only works one time because next time they always come back with more armed people, which is what happens in Mexico.

[@lordpessimism]

The only thing that stops a good guy with a gun, is the fact that he doesn't actually exist.

[@rowbot5555]

This is why he says you should make sure to know your neighbours

[@felicityc]

who decides who the good guy is?

[@Necroskull388]

And police are the bad guys. We have to outnumber them.

[@MindForgedManacle]

@@felicityc The person who did not aggress, who did not initiate violence or the threat of violence. Easy.

[@piplupz1586]

Sometimes your neighbors and colleagues are the alt right. I'm depressed and accept the possibility I can be murdered at any moment. So is life

[@fionafox420]

Shotguns are best for home defense. You don’t have to have great aim to make a critical hit from across a room. Also birdshot doesn’t go through residential walls, so less chance of unintentionally hurting someone else in the home. Most importantly skeet shooting is so much fun!

[@MarcieParcie]

Look at it this way How many wars have the spartans avoided simply because their enemies knew them as the warrior city? Reputation gets you very far

[@MarkArandjus]

I would loooove to hear a discussion on this between Vaush and Beau of the fifth column, holy shit would that be good content. Edit: posted this comment a literal second before he mentioned Beau, hah!

[@Tarumarugan]

I think sometimes that a person who needs to be convinced to buy a gun isn’t really someone I want on my side. If they’re too afraid or idealistic to get one I don’t really have faith they’ll be willing to use it when need be. Even the guy from article wasn’t willing to shoot to kill when his friend’s crazy ex was literally on top of her. She got lucky, another person might not.

[@bibsp3556]

You dont need to shoot them if they're complying. If they're not, then shoot em.

[@MindForgedManacle]

I don't think you can really have that high an expectation or condemnation of someone who actually did shoot. He took time to aim, which was necessitated by the fact the guy was on his friend and didn't want to kill her by mistake. That gave time to pick his spot.

[@diamondfox1178]

In any situation where you're shooting in the direction of something or someone you don't want to hit, always take another second to line up that clean shot. No sense airing out an innocent person's head because you whiffed a shot.

[@chronoblue418]

Not everyone considers deliberately killing to be acceptable.

[@mechanomics2649]

This's a weird standard to have. Convincing someone to buy a gun is not an indictment on their willingness to use it in circumstances where it's needed. People still freeze whether they're willing to buy one or have to be convinced to. Training and practice goes a long ways in becoming more comfortable with them regardless.

[@IxyMorningstar]

VAUSH. Never shoot a moose - if you miss, you're dead. Have you ever seen an angry moos before?!

[@myteethareshiny]

My neighbor flies "thin blue line" and "don't tread on me" flags. You best believe I'm armed!

[@ThomasW215PHL]

For anyone low on funds, I suggest getting a Tarus G2C or G3C, both are reliable and you can walk out with them for around 300-340$. Definitely a great reliable intro 9mm to get a base level of protection.

[@zailaurence2385]

Canik TP9s are also a good choice. IIRC, I got mine in the middle of 2020 for about $300-$400 at a show. They're clones of Walther's PPQ model and carries over their superb triggers.

[@StaggersonJagz]

People don't know what larp means

[@mechanomics2649]

Explain how he's wrong.

[@jnielson1121]

Interested to know V's reflections on the suicide rate related to guns after reflecting on data that surprised him. How would he go about addressing that sociological concern? Widely known that the majority of suicides are impuslive acts and access-to-means is one of the most powerful risk factors for suicide. Significant drops in suicide rates overall when high content carbon monoxide gas stopped being piped to people's homes in the UK and when car exhausts had a catalytic converter mandated by law. Similarly when it was made ilegal in the UK for medications to be sold in bottles rather than blister packs. Surprised by the overall approach in this vid but sounds like a view based on the expectation that gun control could never be enacted in the US?

[@konstantinoskotsomytis2544]

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a voosh guy with good content.

[@jacksmith-vs4ct]

14:20 well its been said they had a spec ops team ready to go if anything gunwise popped off or if they managed to get someone from congress and they weren't gonna be taking prisoners.

[@George-zj9rr]

what's the source?

[@Creationweek]

@@George-zj9rr 1 there definitely was, 2 there won't ever be a source, 3, (my opinion) the only reason they were not called is because the interaction was by white people who were pro police and pro police state. Friendly fire is not a good look for that movement.

[@diamondfox1178]

@@George-zj9rr CIA doesn't cite sources

[@lurkingposter]

Really, they nearly grabbed AOC, that seems doubtful.

[@mobmaniac]

I was a single-issue Republican voter because of how anti-gun liberals are. But like they say- once you go far enough left, you get your guns back

[@Princetopher_]

investing in the skill tree

[@mobmaniac]

@@keirfarnum6811 My brother in Christ, I fucking know

[@Bagel920]

I want to purchase a gun because of this stuff, I see all the hate on the news and I know that sometime that hate is going to turn violent and deadly, and I want to get a firearm to protect myself and those around me. I know a lot of LGBTQ+ people near me and am in a very red leaning county, I want to let them know a place where they can be safe and not have to be afraid of being attacked. I know it sounds weird but it’s a genuine fear that my friends can be attacked just because they are lesbian or trans and just living their own lives.

[@busbee247]

dont get convinced by anecdotes. someone could show a story like this to you every single day and gun ownership wouldnt get any safer

[@Fishmanist]

This man really said i’m email vaush about it while sitting at the police station. insane reach

[@NessieNep]

10:40 While I agree with Vaush I don't think that such a scenario would be a walk in the park especially if such radicals were to specifically target those who are armed to the teeth in order to get to those who aren't. We need not underestimate the odds. Hopefully its an effective enough deterrent but if not, prepare for the fight of your life.

[@Creationweek]

Don't think he was suggesting it would be a walk in the park it would be literal civil war.

[@NessieNep]

@@Creationweek True, but I thought I'd feel the need to mention that in case people get the wrong impression. Edit: I think he's talking about a scenario more akin to the West Virginia coal wars than all out nation-wide civil war.

[@MindForgedManacle]

@@NessieNep I recall from the stream. He's talking about a situation where the federal government has been destabilized and the states are sort of "up for grabs" as to who controls them. We really don't want to be defenseless if they succeed at a coup. (those whose mental health makes owning a gun unsafe should stick with a baseball bat; effective enough).

[@dragonicdoom3772]

As a Brit, the concept of owning any kind of gun is frightening to me, but the more I learn about it the more okay I've become with it. I would still be apprehensive to live in a place where people can own fire arms so casually, but as long as it is heavily regulated and documented I don't see as much of an issue. Idk, I guess I've just grown up in the guns = bad culture, plus it doesn't help that most media depicts the average gun owning American as dangerous and violent despite that not being the case for the vast majority of people.

[@josjos-x5s]

idk as a brit myself I really think guns shouldnt be used for self defense, like how we do it. If its harder for someone to get a gun in the first place, then you don't need a gun to defend yourself.

[@dragonicdoom3772]

@@josjos-x5s That's valid, but I think we also have to concede that guns are so widespread across America that to try and ban their usage for self defence or heavily limit them would potentialy cause more problems. Better to keep one hand on the wheel as it were. Not saying I want the same gun laws in the UK, just that trying to backpedal now would be nearly impossible.

[@josjos-x5s]

@@dragonicdoom3772 well of course but I wouldn't call it impossible. It would be slow as all big changes are, if to be done right. Of course though alot of people don't care about long term projects. And there is a generally a large lack of compliance that would make it impossible, specially over such a long stretch of time.

[@dragonicdoom3772]

@@josjos-x5s Exactly, its not impossible, its just that it would take a lot of time, money and effort. Plus as you said a lot of people would be against it since they're used to owning guns. I guess its about weighing the pros and cons: is getting rid of guns worth all of the trouble, if it succeeded what would it actually do, in the mean time would it put people in more danger than keeping guns legal and regulated, etc etc.

[@DaveIsHere28]

I wouldn't introduce a society like Britain that has gone centuries without having access to firearms to a law allowing distribution of them. Feels like just adding a variable for more ppl to get hurt or hurt themselves for no other reason then "well, America has them"

[@elysahatestostudy9364]

The fact that taunting him actually worked

[@austing2473]

I love the idea of a community armory. I am too depressed to own a gun in my house, but i would love to help stock a community armory and also have a place I know I can go if I need a gun for legitimate reasons.

[@quicksam9941]

the statistic about owning a firearm increasing the likelihood of gun death seems like it's one of those correlation ≠ causation kinda dealios. like, It feels as if people are more likely to purchase firearms if they are already in danger in the first place.

[@kylegonewild]

With the exception of sport shooting and hunting, yes. Most people who arm themselves for self-defense have experienced some sort of situation that convinced them they should arm. When my mother was stripped and brutally beaten by her abusive ex-husband she did a complete 180 on firearms for self-defense. Now she is armed anytime she goes somewhere she doesn't feel safe.

[@bibsp3556]

Its suicides that spike the data. knock knock; Who is there? Depression and a gun in your mouth.

[@GaryIV]

The statistics also get slightly diluted because it includes suicides by gunshot, which means some percentage of those deaths would have occured with or without a firearm in the home.

[@bibsp3556]

@@GaryIVsuicides by gun are far more successful than others. A lot of them would not have happened. It's much scarier to jump off a building, or put the noose around your neck, than it is to twitch the finger. It's like 8 times more likely, which is significant.

[@diamondfox1178]

@@GaryIV yeah isn't it like 90 percent of firearm deaths are suicides or something? Either way, no matter the percentage it skews the data

[@omaralyafai2368]

Good for you, but high point guns are trash. Get a glock, one of the most reliable pistols out there and very cheap especially used

[@somerandommen]

And if you can't get a Glock, get an M&P from S&W...

[@MindForgedManacle]

He's suggested glocks before, but yea hi-points are garbo.

[@omaralyafai2368]

@@somerandommen s&w, canik, ruger, taurus, Springfield xd (specifying with Springfield because their qc has been bad over these past years) are all good reliable guns you can get for cheap used.

[@zacheryeckard3051]

@@omaralyafai2368 Don't you have to be careful with Taurus? I feel like they can be hit and miss. Or used to be.

[@somerandommen]

@@omaralyafai2368 I'd exclude the XD because its only 75 dollars cheaper than a well priced Glock-19, it's better to just save up.

[@quincybriley4113]

I live in Oregon and can attest to the city versus rural differences

[@The_Chosen_Heretic]

9:07 As an Oregonian…. Yeah.

[@Infamousblackbird]

been thinking about getting a firearm. What are your thoughts on the socialist rifle association? are they legit? is it worth joining?

[@captain_context9991]

Thing is........ Over in civilized Europe. If you live in a place where you feel the need to be armed to defend yourself and your family. That would be a huge concern and you would most likely just move away from that area. While in the US.... Thats a source of great pride and patriotism.

[@felicityc]

agreed

[@Necroskull388]

Just MOOOOOVE

[@MindForgedManacle]

I'm sure you're exaggerating, but this is f*cking stupid. No one in America takes pride in living in a dangerous area that requires them to own a gun. We're fine owning guns in low crime areas. We can't just magic away all the guns and the cost of living is ever on the rise, so "just move" is not an option for most people.

[@defaultlogos2976]

What? Of course that is a large concern to Americans, but how many have the option just to pack up and move?

[@thatsprettylunchean]

Why people act like it's so fucking easy to just move to another place?? It sounds privileged AF.

[@fearsoffailure9258]

Thank you for being a true leftist that supports gun rights. They are important. People should be armed cops ehh whatever but you as a citizen in America should be educated on firearms and own it

[@BaronVonQuiply]

17:24 Very hard no. That's federal land and you don't want to be found with a firearm on anything federal unless you're also wearing a badge or are currently property of the military PSA: No matter what your state gun laws are, you cannot carry any firearm into a post office