YouTube Is Blocking Ad Blockers

In this video I discuss how KZbin is becomming more agressive with ads and blocking ad blockers on their platform, aswell as KZbin's new strategy to reduce bandwidth costs by putting higher resolution and more bandwidth intensive videos like 4k or 1080p with enhanced bitrate behind a paywall to offset the costs of this expensive to serve content. I also discuss an alternative solution to serving high quality content (decentralized hosting)
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[@nogr3369]

This is what “””innovation””” looks like for modern tech companies. More ways to blast you with ads and sell your data, all while charging you a subscription for something that 5-10 years ago was just the universal standard. Genius stuff

[@saunshilu]

stagnation masked as innovation can only lead to good things right...right???

[@skinwalker69420]

((innovation))

[@waterbloom1213]

The problem being that The universal standard was burning money these corporations need to make back

[@majorgnu]

That "universal standard" is a fleeting mirage. Virtually all free services by for-profits are doomed to fail, turn to shit or become niche. They're only really great for everyone while they're in "growth mode" and there's investor money to foot the bill. It's a cycle of new companies offering unsustainable services using investor money, which snuff out sustainable alternatives, but then hit a growth ceiling that forces them to try to become sustainable, which then gets them snuffed out by a newer unsustainable alternative. This can only go on for so long before this whole scheme collapses.

[@icantcomeupwithnames469]

This is that capitalist innovation we hear so much about.

[@7heMech]

Good luck fighting with the open-source dev community.

[@bathhatingcat8626]

Heh

[@briani7858]

exactly what i thought. theres people that hate ads so much theyre willing to devote extreme amounts of time to stonewalling them.

[@maticz3923]

nah, they can totally block them worst case scenario: you stare at a black screen for 15 seconds thst thr ad otherwise would be playing

[@Milenakos]

@@maticz3923 perhaps you can pre fetch the next 15 seconds of the video and play them while ad is running

[@Noone-we9vb]

​@@maticz3923 im so petty that i will be happy with 15 seconds of silence instead of ads

[@Eisenbison]

Maybe if KZbin's ads weren't so agressive and aggressively bad, Adblockers wouldn't be needed.

[@amero3577]

scumbags they are. everything on here is dogcrap anyways since these "creators" push ads every 3 minutes because they want to make a "living" off of making videos. there should be like 1 ad every hour that's no longer than 10 seconds and it's skip able. Couldn't give a fuck about how much money youtube is making. they're still making money anyways. I'll never pay

[@tashlentine]

revolutionary idea, right? cos i mean who doesn't want to see a 20 minute ad on a 2 min video. urgh this place is just a joke now.

[@malcolmabram2957]

This is my problem. I actually welcome ads, indeed I do reply occasionally, and also respect that it is a source of revenue for KZbin. BUT, over a year ago, they got out of control, came on when listening to a piece of music, and unable to skip after 5 seconds. I just had to download an ad-blocker. Perhaps KZbin could go back to the way it once was.

[@Nash1a]

Exactly!!! I would allow 1 ad per video but multiple ads and multiple breaks for additional ads? No! Hell, I watched one 15 minute video that had 4 ad breaks.

[@JamMicknee]

I only just started getting the things.

[@akiradkcn]

Ad-blocker developers: "are you challenging me?"

[@john99brazil]

💀

[@ImPipkinrick]

Is there a working Adblocker for Twitch? I haven't come across any.

[@manishsindhi7179]

​@@ImPipkinrick there is an android app for twitch which block all ads there

[@TheDrunkenSnail]

@@ImPipkinrick swap to 480p during ad break

[@burtpenguin]

Code your own adblocker!

[@mac1991seth]

The worst case scenario. The very worst, the final frontier of Adblocking (if everything else fails) is adblockers automatically muting ads and blacking out the screen until the video loads. KZbin advertising system is repetitive, loud and obnoxious. Ads are uninteresting, uninspired even when they're not a scam. It's a losing battle for KZbin.

[@DanteLikesRock]

good point.

[@OrbitalSP2]

I have a twitch extension that mutes the ad. When an ad is not blocked here (not all of them are), then the other extension mutes the ad.

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

Never bought a thing, in my life from a KZbin Ad.

[@MrHack4never]

Instead of a black screen, just have a system that makes snarky comments about them like: "We sell a car that you can drive around an empty city, amazing!" "Another ad for some mobile 'game' that mines crypto and asks for your credit card constantly" "Fun fact: sells " "Another shitty reboot" "Here's an ad for something your gender doesn't need"(when it's gendered items) "I have no idea what they're trying to sell you, but it's not working" "Have you heard about stuff? This is our nth time telling you about it" "Here's an ad for going somewhere you don't want to go" "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah" "You're about to watch something most kids would find boring, here's an ad for some children toys" "Instead of wasting money on YT premium, burn all your money on gambling sites!" Actually, you don't even need an algorithm, you could just randomise the line given

[@MrNoot39449]

I just download the videos that I want to watch and save them, I barely even use KZbin anymore

[@ClaymoreClay101]

Not only are the ads on KZbin super obnoxious, the censorship is atrocious! While video platforms are often used for for entertainment, there is some information important to public discourse that can only be shared in video format. Footage of important events for example. The loss of uncensored video content is a huge blow to free speech, public discourse, and democratic ideals.

[@gatorwarrior7557]

It's disgustingly annoying how they hide replies now too

[@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070]

Thats the point

[@stefanmadethen5359]

​@@gatorwarrior7557and you have to wait until they're not """"spam"""" i.e. approved by the uploader

[@sologuy9590]

It's like article 13/17 all over again

[@qlx-i]

The funny thing is with naming. There legitemately exist a script, named "BlockBlockAdblock", which blocks a script named "BlockAdblock", which itself blocks adblock...

[@rita_calamity]

I used the adblock to block the ad block

[@seronymus]

Infinite recursion glitch

[@seronymus]

​@@rita_calamity is that Salter

[@GodOfDestructionCarlos]

Block-ception

[@oz_jones]

​@@GodOfDestructionCarlos Block-chain, if you will

[@Sinistar1983]

How stupid of them to think they can stop them. They clearly can't stop the open source community, its far out of their hands now.

[@nevadacario2000]

Amen

[@RocketPropelledMexican]

They actually might be able to win this at least on youtube... They could integrate the ad directly into how they deliver the codec stream, then you'd have no choice but to load and wait for however many seconds before the actual video content will get loaded

[@sirtra]

Sadly if you've ever used plugins to dl youtube vids before they started preventing them in chrome you'll know they have the upper hand.. prepare yourself for 3 unskipable ads.. then 4... it's coming.

[@AvoxionYT]

@@sirtra Don't use chrome lmao

[@blabla-rg7ky]

@@sirtra I hope that they do it, because only my infinite hate towards ads can overcome my ineptitude of wasting my life on YT. I pray to God that they come...

[@96ethanh]

I would be surprised if KZbin can win a fight (long-term) against the entire internet community of adblock developers. But even if they did, I would honestly probably just stop watching youtube

[@Habib_Osman]

Nah you won't.

[@WilliamCodewizard]

hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[@cod4r]

I know some people that stop using YT, because of this same problem. YT has a big problem on its hands.

[@Habib_Osman]

@@cod4r KZbin has the greatest big data network and analysts of the world. They have calculated their move. Some people might indeed quit using their service but according to their calculations, the increased revenue gained from the new adblocking policy outweighs that loss.

[@jKurnas]

This is my current plan...because just today they will lock you out after three videos watched. I'll support content creators on their Patreons. I'm outta' here. XD!

[@emily1]

I find websites that try to detect ad blockers are badly done. Half rarely actually notice the one I have and the other half are easily bypassed by adding the page adblock notice to the adblockers parameters so It basically becomes useless.

[@akiradkcn]

Literally blocking the ad-blocker WITH ad-blockers Comedy Gold

[@shiftplus7815]

Witch one do you use?

[@elpsykoongro5379]

@@shiftplus7815 u Block Origin

[@akiradkcn]

@kepi1812 filters are pretty easy to bypass too

[@Hypnotically_Caucasian]

@@shiftplus7815 Brave works for me on most websites. Firefox Focus triggers a lot of anti-ad-blockers

[@martijn3151]

YT doesn’t seem to understand that by forcing ads even more, people at one point will simply stop watching. I’ve rage quit many videos already, when KZbin presented me with yet another unskippable long ad. At a certain point these actions will hurt the content creators.

[@mr.jamster8414]

I just click the (i) button and skip the ads that way >:)

[@boggy7665]

I've long refused to watch ads & this drove me away from commercial & even public TV. I'll have a better life if I watch a lot less KZbin.

[@animeloveer97]

​@@mr.jamster8414 no lol AdBlock requires me to do nothing it's better that way.

[@mr.jamster8414]

@@animeloveer97 Aye for sure.

[@MeAndMyFriendBovineTapeworm]

Part of the reason why I stopped watching TV.

[@jlindsell4295]

I feel like KZbin isn't going to last another 5 years

[@ShadowWolf2023-yp5zg]

I have heard that said after the Google+ fiasco...and advertisment apocalypse...so far it is still here. I highly doubt it will last long, though, for how long I don't know.

[@Drip_Wooper]

I wish it just died and something new took over, unfortunally I dont think it will :/ there are a bunch of people here who are too attached to the plataform and will actually fight to keep it alive despite clearly being shit, KZbin's a monopoly, there is no other site that can compete with it, so they can make it shit because everyone can complain, but in the end of the day everyone's still coming here, so they're making it shittier and shittier because there is nothing we can do about it, and it pisses me off because even if we were crazy enough to try and fight it, we're fighting against KZbin, any big corporation that makes money off from it, and literally anyone who's been here for long enough to be attached to it but not long enough to see what prime youtube was like, and the fact that no, a hellhole with 12 ads per video is not normal

[@MPG92]

Yo I hear that, KZbin as we know it FOR SURE will soon be unrecognizable.

[@Sharp931]

Nice

[@krakentoast]

We will always find ways to go around this.

[@krakentoast]

I'm literally watching thos on KZbin ReVanced. You have now way to stop me Alphabet. Muhahahahahahahhhh

[@RisingRevengeance]

@@krakentoast Revanced is pretty much required on mobile

[@ilikefrogs4291]

@@RisingRevengeance newpipe is also viable. although a very different experience.

[@krakentoast]

@@jamiediamond420 indeed I am

[@ivysl4444]

@@krakentoast idk abt revanced yet cus I'm still using the original vanced and it still works fine lol ig they only just took down the downloads for it

[@senorcapitandiogenes2068]

They might have killed Vanced, but that made the devs make a better one. Thanks YT

[@akiradkcn]

Monkey Paw but good

[@Shimpriv]

What new one? Asking for a friend here.

[@dd0669]

​@Linuck Same 🎉

[@TheRealShangajac]

​@Linuck revanced isnt as good, sadly :( it lacks a lot of options and is buggy

[@casperd2100]

​@@TheRealShangajac what... if you make sure you're on the latest version, it has more features than vanced and is not more buggy than vanced. Probably just as buggy.

[@DragoonWarrior790]

Another big problem that YT has that I don't ever see improving is their terrible copyright system. I know some content creators that live on Twitch while sharing their content on Twitter, Tictoc, and put a small amount on YT that they don't care about losing to false claims. One of them explained how they wrote and posted their own original song to YT only to have a false copyright claim submitted from some record company. When they filled an appeal, YT denied it and sided with the company that made the false claim.

[@chessoc7799]

That happens a lot One guy got claimed for speaking on a private vid he was testing a new microphone. He actually had his own voice claimed. No music used at all.

[@EdgarAllan2pointPoe]

​@@chessoc7799I remember one KZbinr getting a copyright claim from a record company over a royalty free door slamming sound effect that some rapper had used in one of their songs.

[@mainuleaccount6320]

"Umm actually, you can't complain about KZbin when you don't pay for it. KZbin needs money and they make it through ads"

[@AlyxForest]

What makes this worse is how they treat you if you appeal and get denied. If you get denied, you get a strike on your channel, meaning if someone falsely claims music in your video, and you rightfully ask for the claim to be reviewed, and the flase claimant says "nope, my claim is real" even though it isn't, you get punished for it while they get away unscathed. It is sickening.

[@tashlentine]

@@mainuleaccount6320 and yet they rely on content creators to make things for you to watch. But if the content creators don't have enough views, they don't get compensated for their time, work and effort becuase they don't meet youtube's monetisation requirements... but you tube still slaps adverts on their videos whether the creator wants them or not, and makes profit off their work. So how is that fair? The monetisation requirement should be scrapped in that case, if all videos have ads, all creators should be compensated.

[@youreyesarebleeding1368]

I was at a friend's house the other day, and his "Smart" TV wasn't signed into youtube. I haven't watched KZbin with ads in years, but the amount of ads was staggering. There were literally 2 ads at a time, and ad breaks happened every 5 minutes. It was awful, I was reluctant to click on suggested videos because I knew i would have to watch another ad.

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

I Got a free TV, not only that they're super duper duper laggy, i don't even think it matters which brand or price your TV is it's like loading a picture each time a new Ad loads using dial up

[@woj95]

Have you heard about Smart Tube Next?

[@12manny34]

@@woj95 Installed that shit the day I got my Sony TV, the best KZbin TV experience ever. I wish I knew of a way to reprogram the KZbin button on my remote to open STN instead.

[@ShadowsofYesterday]

You went five whole minutes without an ad break? My smart TV, no exaggeration, will sometimes come back from an ad break, and immediately go into another within the span of about 5-10 seconds. That's kind of an edge case, it does happen, but it's usually in the range of one ad break (always with two ads, usually unskippable) every one to two minutes.

[@eriottomakurashi]

I used to watch yt on tv about 2 years ago, it was nice since ads were only yt premium and about 5 so didn’t give a fuck, but i see that the tides have changed

[@korithex]

My wife's boyfriend told me adblocking is bad

[@john99brazil]

🤣🤣🤣

[@MentalOutlaw]

Lol is Linus your wife's boyfriend?

[@akiradkcn]

Uh...

[@hunterrules0_o]

Glowie wife. Dont let her glowie propitary self infect your kids.

[@kopuz.co.uk.]

@@jamiediamond420 just the tip?

[@coriscotupi]

I will *_NOT_* be pushed advertisements against my will. If the day comes that I can no longer watch videos without being forced to see advertisements (or be coerced into paying a "fee"), I'll just quit watching these videos altogether and go do something else with my free time. I have lived for decades before the existence of this platform and did just fine, thank you. I can just as easily go back to not watching online videos.

[@John-kv7jo]

One way to bypass the ads would be to stream the video through a video player like MPC HC.

[@shaquilleoatmeal6433]

This is how it always starts. First it’s “experimental” for some users, then it’s a feature you can briefly chose to use or disuse, then it goes sitewide and compulsory

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

Imagine they start calling ppl conspiracy theorists for calling out the obvious

[@MrNoot39449]

Like the no swearing policy only affecting papa gundam, but now everyone is affected by it

[@animeloveer97]

​@@Eduardo_Espinoza they literally do

[@wewlad2917]

its so tiring, first it was the obligatory swap to google+ accounts, then the interface changes, then the dislike removal, now this

[@ErenTheWarcriminal]

That’s what caused me to delete all social media

[@kennnnn]

Advertising is a cancer on the internet that should be purged as soon as possible by whatever means necessary.

[@raiden72]

Ads are arguably stalker behavior because of how they follow you and watch what you do. Privacy laws need catching up so we can kick these gaslighters out of existence. I will never be gaslighted into believing that my valuable time is worth someone's stupid ad.

[@MrWhipple42]

I'm not opposed to ads in theory, since content hosting and delivery isn't free. What I'm opposed to is two 15-second unskippable ads to watch a 2½-minute video.

[@Sypaka]

Ads in the internet and trackers should be banned by law. problem solved.

[@sumfagola]

@@Sypaka Sure, there can be a ban on all ads and trackers tomorrow. How is anyone going to enforce it? The government? Good luck paying them more than Google and the other big companies.

[@MattExzy]

I actually find the 1080p behind-a-pay-wall thing to be weirder than the anti-ad blocker thing. The situation though is reaching a point where users aren't people, but just things to be tracked to sell advertising to - it's crept into browsers, it's crept into operating systems themselves. I find most websites, especially KZbin, are just downright obnoxious without an ad blocker. If I couldn't use KZbin without an ad blocker, I'd just leave.

[@Wizardguy69]

Remember when any ad pops up turn the volume all the way down and use the time to look away from the screen and reflect. This renders the ad useless and helps you recenter yourself!

[@doctaterror]

I used to not care about resolution that much, but now you've opened my eyes and I will be watching every video in max quality to cost Google as much as possible.

[@doctaterror]

@Kanaba Nakamura Remember to always refer to searching something online as "Googling" Google spends a lot of money on "research" to prove not many people do that :) If the term becomes a common term they will legally lose their ownership of the term!

[@billynomates920]

trouble is it pauses for two seconds every two seconds or so but i do it out of spite every now and then.

[@billynomates920]

1080p is working fine :)

[@sinan720]

Yeah keep stuffing your pockets full of free stuff while not even being willing to watch an ad in return...

[@your-mom-irl]

@@sinan720 problem?

[@kubajestsus]

good luck youtube, you can't stop me

[@fal1026]

I already download videos to save my time being wasted, especially if they're podcasts or streams.

[@mopnem]

5 bucks says you’re overplaying yr skills to avoid ads on youtube…lol

[@WittyComm3nter]

@@fal1026 what's your method for doing that if you wouldn't mind enlightening me

[@fal1026]

@@WittyComm3nter any available online converter that isn't shutdown by KZbin (in their other war against content consumption), & doesn't do anything beyond what's stated. Good luck finding them though, I've been through about 6 that didn't try to trojan horse me, & dozens more that don't record beyond 480p.

[@thechadbuddha]

@@fal1026 lol windows zoomer

[@UnBarney]

I think we need our old CEO back. As much as I hate her, she would NEVER do anything like this.

[@KageMinowara]

It is the duty of all free citizens to evade taxes, and block ads.

[@unocualqu1era]

"It is the duty of all free citizens to evade taxes, and block ads." -Übermensch

[@ehtresih9540]

Its an obligation

[@Smougda]

it's not a duty, is a moral obligation.

[@barfdoggin]

real

[@enkiandenlil]

how I evade taxes

[@domg6041]

They wanted to skunk themselves by placing restrictions on legal content. At that point, the ad blockers were my protest; I will consider turning off the ad blocker when they stop throttling the views/payment to the people that make their site relevant.

[@dannymitchell6131]

Exactly. I'd pay for premium if they could follow the constitution. I'd have been paying for it for at least a year already.

[@SupersuMC]

Define "skunk themselves."

[@domg6041]

@@SupersuMC To defeat overwhelmingly, especially by keeping from scoring. To cheat (someone). To fail to pay (an amount due).

[@bumblebeegamerreal]

"Umm actually, Google created them for free, so you do not have any right to complain about the changes. They can do whatever they want"

[@majorgnu]

@@dannymitchell6131 What part of the constitution are they not following, again? Surely you don't mean the part that begins with "Congress shall make no law", since last I checked KZbin is not part of the United States Congress.

[@wrongthinker843]

I, for one, fully support YT wasting more money on a futile anti-customer effort while their competition catches up.

[@Exarvi]

except... it doesn't really...

[@Exarvi]

it's just peak anti consumer behavior

[@tigana]

Haha.

[@sparfRF]

What competition? What video uploading site? There's literally 1 good one

[@Neoniq41]

@@sparfRF No, there's another. It's called Odysee

[@shlok1124]

Not just blocking ads, they have amended their algorithm to be more perseverant about showing ads. You cannot reload a video hoping to see no ads in the beginning until at least 10 tries

[@myhelshik5844]

Lmao, I reload the video 8 or 10 times just to not see the unskipable 16 seconds ads

[@user-TheTrueGibly]

That was a sad time in my life On my switch Pushing the a button, then the b button half a second later Over and over.... 60 times later I gave up That's why you don't watch videos from IGN

[@buck3471]

@@myhelshik5844 at least you didn’t get an unskippable 2 minute ad

[@myhelshik5844]

@@buck3471 Is that even possible?

[@buck3471]

@@myhelshik5844 sometimes

[@phitsf5475]

Forcing people into watching less youtube? Probably not a bad thing.

[@kouhaiii3182]

two 15-second unskippable ads back-to-back for a 7-second clip, and YT expects me to not have adblock? that's crazy

[@z2ybh4g6gojdt92]

bro i got two one minute long unskippable ads once, never watching on my phone again

[@I.____.....__...__]

Why do you think YT is leaning into shorts? Running ads that are 2-5× the length of the video itself is more ROI. Capitalism strikes again! 😒

[@HülyeLó]

youtube expects you to pay up

[@MrThisucks]

Don’t forget hitting skip ad just to get another ad!

[@AMidgetWalrus]

I wonder at what point this is considered monopolistic behavior. Using their control of both the largest cell phone OS(And its' default app store), as well as largest browser, to increase the profitability of their other things, like KZbin, as well as Google Ad services, by limiting what can be listed on their platform.

[@martinkunev9911]

this is kind of what got micro$oft in trouble in the 90s

[@Sgt.ArchDornan]

"Its a private company it can do whatever it wants you libtard" - some Neanderthal

[@AdamBorseti]

​@@martinkunev9911 some trouble. They're still the biggest computer company out there; Christ they beat the IRS!

[@Dervitox]

@@AdamBorseti they really are the anticrist

[@AdamBorseti]

@@Dervitox Just one of em'.

[@CS-uc2oh]

I'll walk away from YT before I watch ads. They should have come up with a different way to generate revenue. Also, charging money for better quality videos makes more sense than what they're doing. I only watch at 144p anyway because my internet is crap.

[@afro.sensei]

KZbin really thinks that people who use adblockers won't just go somewhere else or find ways to bypass it/download the vid. The more obstacles you put for people to watch content on your site the less people you'll have that are willing to go through all those obstacles.

[@animeloveer97]

As they say, where there's a will there's a way B)

[@Habib_Osman]

They don't "think" anything. Their policies are based on big data analytics. They don't have to "guess", they can "see".

[@AshnSilvercorp]

I'm all for FB and YT getting screwed for their monopoly they made.

[@emdeo]

If youtube could stop screwing over creators and making their ads worse and worse, maybe people would be less inclined to use adblockers? Or perhaps companies are going to keep falling for the lost-revenue-fallacy.

[@-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-ucq]

Fr bro, even a channel with 5 subs and 700 views has ads even tho the creator did not apply for ad revenue and didn't put ads in the video

[@konrad94886]

KZbin video downloaders: *allow us to introduce ourselves*

[@SaanMigwell]

Lol. Pretty soon, if a site detects a capture card, it'll send the Eff Bee Eye straight to your house.

[@casperd2100]

​@@SaanMigwell you can just get the file lmao...

[@timetraveler0002]

​​@@SaanMigwell yt downloaders: laughs in siberian

[@Ravenfox297]

There's always screen capture

[@peterscott2662]

@@Ravenfox297 If you are screen capping, then you are going to be screen capping the ads too.

[@Devinci297]

What I hate the most are ads that interrupts the video playback. I may just give up KZbin when I can't block them anymore.

[@jmdefault]

It's not just that. I hate how low brain these ads have become. It used to be the normal crap like ads for shopping malls, overprized deoderant, etc. I could easily tolerate those. Now it's ads for shitty mobile "games", NFTs and the newest EA cash grab on repeat. I can feel a few brains cells dying each time I have to watch those. The only solution at this point is an ad blocker or turning on personalised ads (which makes Google collect even more data from you)

[@krazownik3139]

As a guy living in Poland most of these ads are typical shit that is on TV, with full blasting loudness level. If you are watching particularly quiet video on the headphones, increase loudness to hear it better and one of those spawn you will end up deaf. That and straight up scam ads. Like YT keep showing me the ad for infamous "Orlen free money scam". If US companies have to obey our law and guys from Orlen would be somewhat competent heads would be rollin'.

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

KZbin might be on the verge of falling

[@__Brandon__]

Remember that people bid against other advertisers for ad space. If you are getting low quality ads it's probably because you aren't worth bidding for. I get ads for hot water before bed and another set of ads for cold water before bed. I very rarely get anything else. I'm pretty sure my account is consuming the absolute lowest bidders for ads. I've been getting ads for water for a few years now. I normally run blockers, but I'll use my account without a block once or twice per year and see the water ads. I have to imagine nfts and mobile games are pretty close to the lowest bidders possible. Just keep blocking, ignoring, and never engaging with them and maybe you to can get ads for drinking hot water before bed

[@chrisca]

​@@krazownik3139 yeah, banking ads, shitty Elon Musk clickbait... gweughh Having ad personalization set ON does not solve anything, and they keep serving you shit

[@TheSegert]

I just got this: ad blockers are not allowed on youtube thing. Do they realise why people are using addblockers. Because they are annoying and wasting my time!. Have you seen how many adds the push in a video? Also they dont check what adds. I get gamblin, Pron and alcohol ads. I dont want those things! and they are very innappropiate. and like 12 of them too!

[@trevorwylie5882]

friend who is terminally sick he,s getting funeral adverts i cant tell you how bad that makes im feel.

[@trailblazingfive]

Finally got a good reason to ditch this cesspool of platform

[@MentalOutlaw]

All the good creators are on LBRY/Odysee anyway

[@hunterrules0_o]

@@MentalOutlaw Based. Odysee creators truely are the best.

[@Shocker99]

And here you are, on the platform 😂

[@thevictor180]

@@MentalOutlaw There are too many Nazis there

[@117Ender]

@@MentalOutlaw wouldnt creators, get a server, or just get another modem/increase the rate, and have an old pc, store said videos, at a data center?

[@JohnDoethe3rd]

Don't you block my blocker.

[@user-5ee3zk1w]

PHUK U KZbin FOR FORCING ME TO GET RID OF ADBLOCK

[@andrewwilliams3207]

I'm sick of KZbin. It's time for another platform to shake things up

[@bobrossopinions]

And we have tik tok which made KZbin launch KZbin Shorts.

[@animeloveer97]

​@@bobrossopinions and they are both shit lol

[@mugnuz]

wont happen if they dont run the scam youtube ran. burn investors money to make a monopoly and then when that doesnt work anymore play ads and premiums...

[@alejandromorazan3420]

​@@bobrossopinionsand not gonna lie, its better, long videos and shorts in one app, also tik tok is a chinese spy app, google is a data collecting app too but im ok with it.

[@Proferk]

​​@@bobrossopinions 99% of the yt shorts are cringe + they only exist to waste time and reduce attention span

[@HikingFeral]

Firefox using Ad-block and Sponsorblock Ultimate is working fine. Firefox is a non chromium based browser in case people didn't know, one of the only ones and it's obviously more difficult for these big companies to effect them. Ad-block Ultimate also has anti-anti-adblock processes which seem to work very well.

[@NirmalveerSingh]

is it open source?

[@km-hi9wj]

too bad firefox is almost entirely funded by google :)

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

Yes I think this is just being rolled out on a very small minority of users and I'm not even sure if it's being rolled out to non-chromium browsers. So obviously Firefox is the best solution with you block currently. People rightly point out that Firefox depends on Google funding of course but not sure that means it's going anywhere anytime soon

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

​@@km-hi9wj which is problematic but doesn't seem to change the fact that currently Firefox/ublock it's not affected by these ad block counter efforts. But yes it is problematic at Firefox is really the only non chromian browser available

[@Warp3326]

@@Mikhanator Yep. I have a computer running a Unbuntu based OS called LXLE with Librewolf.

[@slavsquatsuperstar]

I was worried about being addicted to KZbin, but KZbin seems to already be addressing that. Thanks a lot!

[@yeetyeet7070]

Ads would fix my youtube addiction, if they outwit my adblockers, I *WILL* touch grass.

[@Exarvi]

Actual based mindset, I tend to do turn it off if annoyed.

[@tigana]

Wait you have a point whoops

[@arebelscum9495]

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

[@spacemeter3001]

I feel like Ads are a necessary evil but all services seem to overdo it. Making their website barely usable with all the pop ups, video ads, ads on every corner, cookie acceptance warnings and other crap

[@Warp3326]

Yeah and its ussally the same garbage, yOu cAnT spElL sO uSe grAMmArlLy hahahHhahAHahhaHHAhahHAha

[@sihamhamda47]

Yeah, and those ads makes the potato laptop almost unusable for browsing because most banner ads are in animated/GIF form that consumes a lot of CPU power

[@PenguinCrayon269]

> cookie acceptance warnings the worst thing europe did to the world after imperialism and slave trade

[@Exarvi]

Necessary evil that is abused by greed. There is more malware distributed through ads than any other methods combined.

[@arebelscum9495]

I emerged from the safety of the brave browser's add blocker to use chrome, got beat to death with ads, then crawled back inside.

[@AbdellahPlays]

Well I"m using adblocker for a reason and its to hide shitty adult ads that pops up randomly on my screen or trash content so i think i will be fine lol

[@steel5897]

Ads make videos unwatchable, and the internet unbrowsable. I will always block ads, in all of my devices on my network. If I can't block them, I'll have to choose between paying for "premium", or stop using the service. I don't like being pushed into that decision, but I usually take the latter option when it happens. Sad to say that with KZbin, I use it too much, so I would probably pay for premium just to get rid of ads. But I have faith that they will fail at this, fingers crossed.

[@elpsykoongro5379]

If you use KZbin on Android KZbin (Re)vanced is for you

[@jcdenton7914]

Lately ads have made mobile browsing so unbearable that I defaulted to Brave. Literally you are reading and then you got giant banners rising up or dropping down over the whole screen, microscope x buttons, and once that's done the very text you read gets shifted due to ads of various sizes cycling in the page. It's complete insanity. Insult to injury is the site its self hits you with popups to join email list or a chat support bubble pops up. It's like we went full circle back to the stone age.

[@lolidemon3163]

​@JC Denton lets not forget pop up ads where if u click on anywhere on the site an ad pops up

[@Warp3326]

exactly, 90% of ads are from the same company and are annoying as heck and make you hate the company thats advertising

[@sigiligus]

​@@jcdenton7914 Smartphones and zoomers are responsible for the ad renaissance.

[@sunset6958]

KZbin shadowbans and their algorithm deletes comments at random 😂

[@iyziejane]

The shadowbans rapidly decay in time (like about 24 hours for posting "hate speech") and they seem to be countered by leaving popular comments as well. That's my experience after years of posting 4chan-tier comments about the topic Kanye got banned for.

[@hellothere4765]

The hidden comments appear if you search from the latest comment.

[@fal1026]

Not at random at all, if you speak like a fucking normal person on the street that doesn't vibe with conformity to a cult, they're looking to silence you, especially if you seem to have a following they don't approve of.

[@SaanMigwell]

@Name_Handle It's not random. It's done on purpose, we just never get told the reason.

[@CosmosArchipelago]

@@iyziejane yeah. You starting talking about the Gods Chosen Lunatics and you get shadow censored immediately lmao

[@LIQUIDSNAKEz28]

10:50 I *WISH* that would happen!!! 🙏 The sooner the better. The changes on this platform just keep becoming more and more *INSUFFERABLE,* from disabling dislikes, the increasing difficulty for monetization, to all the flat out censorship and rampant deleting of comments.... 🤮 They *DESERVE* to be dethroned.

[@kencarpenter1363]

Here's why I use an ad blocker. I like Reddit and so I thought that since I used it frequently, I would turn my ad blocker off for Reddit. Within the first hour I got a warning from my anti-virus software warning me that a website was trying to install a bitcoin miner on my system. I immediately turned my ad blocker back on. When I complained to Reddit, their response was that they couldn't control what third party advertisers did.

[@saunshilu]

could you imagine if that same system was in place for street side advertisement, breaking your windows and holding you at gunpoint to use there product, and you had no way to stop this

[@sihamhamda47]

​@@saunshilu Man, it's kinda like the Terminator Movie scene

[@Buorgenhaeren]

That's fucking stupid, not even mentioning how all antivirus software are just horrible bloatware and you have to be a giga brainlet to get any form of malware from the internet, it is literally impossible for someone to "install" anything on your system just by browsing a site unless you do something incredibly retarded to your browser's permissions or you do something even more retarded like using a terribly unsecure OS like windows

[@Exarvi]

Idk why browsers still have this but you have to manually disable opening of every downloaded file type in your browser

[@ferdgerbeler8494]

@@saunshilu So, like government services then? HERE! You are paying for t his shitty service that doesn't worjk aand benefits your enemies, or the state will kidnap you and hold you prisoner for not paying for bad services you never asked for and never agreed to.

[@kafka6309]

By far KZbin's most backwards move. they'd rather block viewers than clamping down on scammy, fraudlent and obnoxious ads. that is one of the main reasons why people use adblock in the first place.

[@greenlight9896]

We definitely need a solid competitor to KZbin so they will stop pissing off their community. >:(

[@demifiez5898]

KZbin tried to make money from THEIR platform , mfs on youtube: >:(

[@someguy4405]

They exist, but they're mostly still picking up steam and it'll take them a while to stop being negligible.

[@rumfordc]

its called Odysee

[@Kermit2k]

@@someguy4405 They would buckle under any serious load. For example odysee's plan to eventually make money includes advertising.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

​@@demifiez5898 it's immensely profitable for them. The money they get from our data is so significant that if they alienate in too many users with ads, the user base will decrease and they won't be able to sell that ads to partners for ad optimization. This is why KZbin and Chrome generally tolerate ad browsers currently anyway outside of this trial period on a small amount of devices. It's a bigger risk than you would think for you to totally nuke AdBlock

[@garenolorenzo5851]

Just a Little reminder to KZbin. We (the community, content creator), we are those who keeps your platform alive by our content; your'e not even making for us. it's just a matter of time, that someone open-source make a platform and all the people get there. You are nothing without us

[@WhiteTrashyGamer]

Cuz the art of having a website where one can upload videos is such a complicated coding that have stopped us for all this time, and not the yottabytes of harddrives and servers that's needed to have it running

[@zeda1568]

Without Google storing videos in their servers you couldn't even visit website or play videos

[@_kitaes_]

​@@WhiteTrashyGamercomplicated coding is not a problem, and i agree with rest

[@_kitaes_]

Like solo dev can do that in month

[@mugnuz]

well you have to remind yourself that youtube still isnt profitable. and i dont think anyone could pay the servers and electricity within the next 10 years without running the scam youtube did: bruning investors money to be the only big platform and then play more ads or do an oberpriced premium...

[@Jose0421]

I heard that starting December 10th if you’re caught using Adblock your KZbin account will be banned. Not sure if this is true, but if it is, then am leaving KZbin for good and moving over to dailymotion or Rumble. I hate having to watch 3 min ads even that stupid Shien ad is so fucking annoying too. Fuck ads my Adblock will continue to stay on. I hope the creators of Adblock find a way around KZbin’s bullshit adblocking rule.

[@ShadowWolf2023-yp5zg]

Same if that is true. Even so, if they do most of us will just provide word of mouth how KZbin used to be good., but oh well. I will just go elsewhere as I don't really need youtube.

[@SuperiorFanBase]

Talk about suicidal

[@bignerd3783]

noscript & uBlock Origin users:

[@glitter_fart]

pfsense users:

[@kopuz.co.uk.]

custom script users:

[@bacalhau_seco]

​@@glitter_fart based

[@ableemu]

Newpipe users:

[@White-Devil666]

People kind of hate the brands that interrupt their vids with ads. IDK if ads even work psychologically anymore. People already know the brands and nobody wants to watch an ad instead of the video.

[@iyziejane]

Ads are not acceptable, so if they somehow found a way to force them then I would stop using YT. It wouldn't be difficult at all, ads are so repulsive I would lose all interest and leave immediately.

[@yeetyeet7070]

this

[@loopernagic4658]

This actually forced me to stop using Google search engine years ago, and thanks to that I got used using different search engine. I was not using adblockers back then. I would definitely stop using YT if their successfully and go somewhere else.

[@powderypastor1242]

Same for me, ads are something I firmly believe should not exist. If a piece of software forces me to see them without any solution, I'll ditch it and find something else. Life without ads truly is bliss

[@PipoZePoulp]

couple years ago, Adbluck failed for a couple days, I didn't recognize the internet.

[@xX_Lol6_Xx]

Try Invidious, it's a cool front end for KZbin that has no ads or that kind of bs

[@alfa99121]

As someone who lives in Russia, we dont get any ads since the beginning of the war, so my advice - just set your VPN to Russia and you will have a wonderful AD free experience with KZbin)

[@CS-si4nn]

OR...... start a war with your neighbours

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

​@@CS-si4nn pretty sure regular consumers don't decide what wars to start.

[@Patrick-857]

Lol, that's hilarious.

[@janiu1889]

Wtf I love Russia now

[@Voskos]

and have like half of youtube not available in your country

[@MRNOMANALEEM]

It's a good initiative. We, as content creators, work really hard to make videos. Why would we allow the general mass to see them free of cost? People should understand that even when you watch TV, you have to see ads to contribute your part and encourage content creators.

[@Jose0421]

No you absolutely wrong. I don’t have to give a cent to any content creators, you included. Maybe if the ads weren’t so fucking intrusive and annoying then maybe we wouldn’t have to be using adblockers.

[@ShadowWolf2023-yp5zg]

Nice try. Ads should not be forced down my throat. And I will not pay this any further mind

[@arnoldrambo2301]

Said everything there is to say. I'd rather stop using KZbin, than tolerate the ads that infuriate me to no end, or pay to a company that hates me and everything I hold dear.

[@KPX01]

why not stop now then? you want free service you are the product. There is no such thing as free in this world

[@comraddisc2783]

The thing that got me to use adblock: I use LANDRE every single day...

[@jer1776]

@KPX01 Easier said than done, KZbin has a near monopoly. Not every content creator I watch has a Rumble account.

[@user-TheTrueGibly]

​@@KPX01Yea before the price was buying your device and internet or a server if you wanted a website now they want to see how much they can suck out of us

[@mercedestorque1735]

​@@jer1776Rumble should take advantage of this self sabotage of KZbin

[@crazycoffee]

How many times have companies have tried to block AdBlockers and other stuff online? It fails every time

[@Exarvi]

Because it's genuine security risk

[@Bart-dg6qv]

Haha, No way I will ever watch any commercials on Internet. I'd rather drop web.

[@TheGogogogogogo]

I think that's just not a good concept for KZbin. So many users are exclusively on mobile. So it wouldn't work for them because you typically don't have a lot of space on phones. Also I don't think that Google wants to give away all that power that they have in amassing all this video data. They can use it for all kinds of stuff.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

It would be a lot less of an issue with phone still had SD cards. Although honestly most laptops these days probably come with 256 GB as the starting amount. Really not all that different from phones.

[@Warp3326]

@@michaelcorcoran8768 Yeah, for computers I do 12 gb of ram and 500gb of storage on a ssd nowadays. Shoot, my dell inspiron 3880's ssd is almost full and its a 500 gb. I prob need to upgrade to a 1tb lol

[@arebelscum9495]

​​@@michaelcorcoran8768 Bruh. What phones are you all using? I have a 500 gb micro SD card in my phone and a terabyte ssd for my laptop. Edit: Typo.

[@whirlwind872]

​​​@@arebelscum9495 the vast majority of phones nowadays lack an SD card slot. They got rid of the removable batteries, then the SD cards, then the 3.5mm headphone jack, then software customization features. They've been slowly optimizing phones for profit rather than consumer benefit, while acting like the design changes are in the best interest of the customer. Like "no removable battery? That's so it can be waterproof, and have a glass back. A necessary trade-off." Well fuck me I'd rather be able to swap batteries and instantly refill to 100% on the fly. But they know a failing battery is one of the main reasons people buy a new phone, so they deliberately made it hard to replace. They also removed SD cards so they can charge 3x the standard market price for storage space on a phone (256gb will cost you an extra $100 compared to 128gb, for an SD card it would be an extra $30). They claim it's "faster" but we don't need NVME storage speeds for storing camera photos and videos... It's honestly infuriating how they have continued to remove more and more features yet spin the changes as beneficial to the consumer. The removal of the headphone jack being the most egregious example imo

[@xayano590]

@@whirlwind872 for real i have a samsung s21 and it doesn't have a headphone jack and it also doesn't work with most type c to 3.5mm adapters because it the adapter itself needs to have a sound chip which this phone lacks. The adaptor on Samsung website is also unnecessarily expensive and always out of stock in india so i haven't ever been able to use headphones with my phone.

[@breadmoth6443]

*laughs in pi-hole*

[@Yomush]

uBlock already dealt with youtube's newest "invention". It was so fast that I didn't even notice that. So I'm guessing that next step is NFTs on youtube?

[@Goremize]

I love that google is putting so much money towards doing something that will kill the platform. If no ad block? No KZbin.

[@AstroLuv137]

They will kill their own platform if they limit too many things. Things change and those who believe they are invincible sometimes don't forsee how their greediness will be their downfall.

[@Kermit2k]

How will it kill their platform is they kickoff users who don't pay or watch ads? How are those users contributing to the platform? Likes and prayers?

[@thechadbuddha]

@@Kermit2k good little goy here take a shekel

[@RyuuRider]

@@Kermit2k You must be aware that user interaction data is collected by websites, browsers, ISPs? That data is sold, my guy. That data has applications in many industries, so I wouldn't recommend understating it as a revenue stream for KZbin. Users comment and add to statistics, even if they don't see ads. They contribute to the algorithm, the dataset, and the paycheck. Ad views would make more money, but adblocking users aren't as parasitic as you think.

[@AstroLuv137]

@@Kermit2k They keep the website alive, if half the people leave for a streaming service that better suits their wants, KZbin will lose a huge marketshare and lots of potential new users. Would you have started watching KZbin in the first place if it was a paid for service? You probably wouldn't had. I know that if I HAD to pay for a streaming service, I wouldn't go with Google's. I only come here, because it's the most popular and it's where people post their videos because it's the most accessible. Why do you think winRar or Windows are "paid for" services, but they let their users use it for free? Simply, because they want to be the first thing that comes to mind when people have to use a compression software / an OS.

[@myfaveyoutube]

they kill platforms for breakfast but I hear what you're saying

[@SandroAerogen]

Massive opportunity for Odyssey and Rumble to bite a huge piece out of KZbin's pie if they really go forward with this.

[@1gengabe]

The decentralized KZbin would be the death of high quality videos and long format videos, people would need insane storage space for that to work and even be close to the high (though corrupt) quality that it is, finding videos sound like it would be insanely hard based on what you described and you would be better off just making your own website

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

I think it's possible, how did they up resolution old lo-res videos?

[@TerryVideoZone]

it's a more niche space but I'd say the people who pay for seedboxes to host more torrents point towards the possibility of it working to at least some degree, especially if there's some incentive to holding onto files to seed as is often the case with private trackers. As alluded to in the video it would also likely cultivate a space where videos flourish more based on actual quality and effort as opposed to metagaming an algorithm with hyperoptimized clickbait

[@twenty-fifth420]

I am still poverty learning to code, almost going to finish my course and make a sinatra/ruby website. I cut all unnecessary expenses, including Premium. So, I am watching this on adblock. They will never stop me. This is the way.

[@kchannel5317]

Keep your dreams alive brother.

[@Hirohitorunguard]

Keep strong brother!

[@bahnerz]

There was a guy, who had a smart idea, where people could allocate a part of their bandwidth and disk space, to hold a bit of the storage for the platform might be cool to implement?

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

I think this will just stop people from using yt, and give other platforms the kickstart they need to get to the market

[@MrGeekGamer]

I stopped watching television because of advertisements. It won't be a problem to disconnect from KZbin.

[@thechadbuddha]

thats the spirit

[@dherokbattleborn]

People wouldn’t be so repulsed by the ads if they actually curated them. A good chunk of the ads I used to be served were scam garbage or political crap. If the ads were honest and actually had effort put into them people might be more willing to see them

[@lolidemon3163]

Especially the mobile game ads, they cringe af

[@Warp3326]

thats the thing, back in the 50's and around then commercials actually had something neat and useful, such as a new invention. electric can opener, new kind of mop, etc. and they werent chaotic or annoying, and it was 100% true and explained really well. Nowadays that isnt the case: yOu caNT spELl sO uSe grAMmaRlLy oR elSe

[@Warp3326]

@@lolidemon3163 ya

[@sihamhamda47]

Yeah, those scam ads are very annoying. One of those are "How to make $1000 in a day" that if you clicked it, it opens a fake trading site that is actually a gambling/betting site

[@arebelscum9495]

Yeah, I actually like video games as like I might want to get, excluding any and all mobile game ads of course.

[@RenderingUser]

As someone who never get ads on KZbin even without ad blocker, I see this as an absolute win

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

Same my browser just came with it built in & turned on, even had to find his to turn off the vpn to use sites normally, since they think I'm fine kinda of hacker from the movies

[@RenderingUser]

@@Eduardo_Espinoza huh No It's not a browser thing I just happen to live in a region where they don't monetise

[@stella.disappear]

@@RenderingUser where exactly?

[@carolingio1152]

​@@stella.disappearI assume it must be Russia

[@WounderfulRU]

@@carolingio1152 yes I’m in Russia and no ads here on all platforms 🥵

[@XealL11]

No ads for russian viewers, thanks a lot Google 😎

[@CapsUnlocked]

Interesting concept but a P2P youtube would never happen because it requires the viewers to actually put in work. Internet consumers just want to sit back and do as little work as possible. Also it would take control away from KZbin, which scares the hell out of them. Maybe in a far distant future where our phones can store several terabytes and internet speeds are so fast people don’t even realize they are downloading a KZbin video.

[@CosmosArchipelago]

By that time we will all be in digital gulags.

[@notaboutit3565]

@@CosmosArchipelago digital?

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

Downloading a KZbin video only takes a few seconds now. It's unnoticeable even on something with a mid-range chipset. At least on mobile, maybe it's different using the browsers, although I don't even know what they allow for downloads on the browser.

[@mskiptr]

It could happen by default, in the background. When you watch anything, you need to download it first. So it would only require to keep the downloaded thing in cache (or even just in RAM if it's hot) and then do the peer discovery + uploading dance. Devices could get rid of the content as soon as storage space is required.

[@RyuuRider]

@@mskiptr I would absolutely be willing to work with a setting that let me define how much storage space to allocate for video storage and seeding, maybe deleting oldest first as a simple start. A way to mark ones you want to keep seeding regardless of cap, etc. It's a neat idea.

[@Raven9010th]

This is KZbin digging it's own grave. You can't force people to watch ads. The only thing you can force them to do is find something else to do with their spare time. So KZbin is perfectly welcome to enforce their ads policy. Then they can sit around their CEO table and wonder why so many people have stopped watching, as they watch their income drop to zero within a few months.

[@LilLou97]

Well when Ads are just 50 minute podcasts that have no reason to be an Ad in the first place, and when a video is an hour long, theres an Ad at every 5 minute mark. It just makes sense to have an Ad-blocker, it is almost reminiscent to KZbin back in 2014-2016 where Ads were everywhere in just about any KZbin video.

[@BagoPorkRinds]

Only 50 min? I once had an ad that was a 10 hr documentary. The nerve! 😂

[@the_gilded_age_phoenix8717]

In the address line, put a hyphen between the 't' and the 'u'. Then, you can watch ad-free.

[@john99brazil]

Ublock Origin😂

[@mortunic]

YT is nothing without community, they want to charge for other peoples content, they don`t create nothing, people don`t want to pay them and don`t want to watch commercials eder. Only solution is community contribution and that should be enough, but no, they want billions in profit and that is not acceptable. They are forcing this business models to average people. Only solution is that people are allowed to pay voluntarily to creators. They should allow payments for micro or macro amounts direct to creators and lets say 10% of that money they take for providing platform etc. Its easy-beasy with regulated crypto-

[@SumBrennus]

I will stare at a wall for 12 hours a day before I pay or watch ads.

[@WillThat]

Laughs in Firefox, SmartTubeNext, and ReVanced.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

Yes smart tube next in particular is so valuable. Because ads on the TV are the worst, your fingers aren't necessarily Right on top of the screen to skip an ad....

[@BrennaUrbangirl]

I have an ad blocker. I didn't start seeing this popup till today, 4 months after you posted your video. I would be okay with ads if they did them at the beginning or end of the video only. But I've seen KZbin play them in the middle of a video, or depending on the length multiple times in the middle of a video. I don't want to be watching something and an ad pops up interrupting the video. So if Google and KZbin want me to turn off my ad blocker for KZbin they need to stop forcing ads down our throats.

[@ShadowWolf2023-yp5zg]

Exactly my thoughts. I've been ad free since the changes on youtube in 2012.

[@Twonkization]

Your ideas are intriguing, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Seriously, YT would never move to a decentralized site, as they would no longer be able to just, I dunno, delete all of a content creator's videos for no reason....

[@vincei4252]

Or censor at will

[@sexyguy3647]

Love the Simpsons reference. Them trying to block adblock is as outrageous as the bear tax

[@MillywiggZ]

You know, it wouldn’t be so bad if Google actually showed ads for things it knew you would want. Like what the ad system *tell you is what they’re doing* when they are taking your search results, watch time, scraping your comments etc. Just show me ads for albums I’d like to buy, films I want to watch, devices I didn’t know about like a gamer pad for Photoshop with programmable keys and wheels. Maybe I’d watch the ads then.

[@stuart6478]

you can tell Google to do that in your settings

[@chrisca]

i'd watch ads if they actually made me save money. Like i saw an ad once of a local supermarket with the weekly discounts; i'd watch them anytime

[@DaleWilly]

Not MY problem that 4k cost more for youtube

[@ShadowWolf2023-yp5zg]

Also not my problem that Google's servers are so expensive to upkeep that's THEIR Problem

[@Respected_Gentleman]

*You will never stop me blocking your ads or watching 18+ content without giving you my personal details.*

[@Heitorsexy]

BASED

[@the_gilded_age_phoenix8717]

You trying to watch dem naked titty mamas anonymously, aren't 'cha?

[@Respected_Gentleman]

@@Heitorsexy Based ... on a true story.

[@OSCSHITPOST]

youtube will die at this point.

[@ShippoFoxD]

DSP may be the only KZbinr that actually cares about having ads. You're taking his money SNORT

[@MarioMario456]

This Is How You DON'T Play KZbin

[@endersteve27]

KZbin: I'm Losing money real bad. Me: You have more than a billion people using it, If you're losing money just sell your merch in-store shop in real life in the most population country like India, Pakistan, Russia, Philippines and Your own local country which is america.

[@thequestion3953]

I think a fully P2P decentralised platform would just not work. Any obscure, not-well known creator (which is like 99% of them) would be fucked because no-one would download their videos and so there would be no way of their videos being shared. Also wouldn’t the streaming speeds be painfully slow for most seeders? I can imagine if a video has only one or two seeders with bad connection then you will just get never ending video buffering.

[@nyairobi]

And everyone who would opt-in would have to expose their address to essentially a public torrent tracker. It ain't happening. I'm all in for a node-based decentralized platform though.

[@Special_Observations_89]

I wouldn't mind paying premium if KZbin wasn't censoring creators 24/7

[@etmezh9073]

eg. enderman

[@bhargavjitbhuyan9394]

@@etmezh9073 Yep! Enderman is legitimately a very good creator. Why youtube blocks him, I don't now.

[@IskenderCaglarM41B441]

Nope still wouldn't pay. They removed dislikes, they remove swearing, they try to make everything family friendly. No don't pay for that. Or I'll curse you.

[@Otto-Webb]

yeah, theres also that. You pay for premium and they still make you watch sponsor content for 10-20% of the time and also have to be censored.

[@simonkormendy849]

It has just gotten far worse, now, KZbin won't even let me watch your videos, or anyone else's videos unless I either disable my ad blockers, or pay them $14/month for KZbin Premium.

[@domlee5902]

I feel like there is almost a 0% chance of something like decentralized video storage/streaming ever becoming mainstream unless technological literacy increases exponentially in the next few years. Especially if it’s opt-in, I feel too few KZbin users would understand or care to understand the implications and usefulness

[@trayvibez399]

You'd have to make the system essentially frictionless with a passive Tor protocol integrated within a browser. Something simple like a token system. Where the first viewing of a video generates a token stored in the browser's cache that's maybe 1-100s of kbs in size of random portions of the original video. After a period like 2 weeks to a month the token self destructs unless it's marked for preservation and of course allow users to decide the duration and acceptence of the tokens. Could also have a reward system like fewer ads or a bigger kickback for fav'ed creators for the normies helping unload some of google's bandwith. 😊

[@puceno]

money money money...

[@Danielfiks]

Must be funny

[@SuperAgentAB]

In the rich man's world

[@zigafide]

wow its almost like hosting an unfathomably large amount of data costs money ! who woulda guessed???

[@rodbelding9523]

I see this video is 4 months old, but I just started getting this message today. AdBlOcKeRS aRe nOt aLloWed. Okay, and what's stopping me?

[@charlie5795]

Same here, just saw this today.

[@GonthorianDX]

I really don't care if they restrict 4k to a premium paywall. Gotta compensate for that stuff somehow. Just leave the blockers alone...

[@MrTheinfoman]

KZbin doubles down by increasing the price of KZbin Premium

[@micha-fc8lg]

30$ a month for family account... wtf?!?

[@Exarvi]

Watch it backfire when it happens🔥