The Flash but it's consistent

[@mickeybekele2936]

Bro, the show is so consistent. He consistently talks to the bad guy and consistently lets him go.

[@xEqualsRandom]

And he very consistently says "we'll find another way!"

[@chiarruzini1191]

​@@xEqualsRandomwhich is code for "Cisco will find another way"

[@thebarbelllifestyle1478]

And consistently runs up to where the bad guy is and lets the bad guy surprise and hurt him so they can get away even though Barry could've just run up, taken him out, locked him up and call it a day.

[@alabilus.]

@@xEqualsRandom "You don't have to do it" I'm at season 7 and when I heard barry saying it increasingly often I started to imagine myself being the villain and hear that non sensical shit: bitch I'm a criminal I WANT to do that

[@deadpooldan9862]

This is a thing in the comics too, and no one complained then, it’s literally just a thing when there’s superheroes with super speed, look at Superman.

[@safetybottle6156]

its so annoying how half the time he “isn't fast enough” and then he can just go and stop time, meaning he can basically telaport

[@bengig3169]

in a comic he was once faster then teleportison

[@boggless2771]

@@bengig3169 yeah, he can rub back in time. Thats being in 2 places at once.

[@bengig3169]

@@boggless2771 no i mean he ran faster then telep without going back in time

[@itachikamui966]

@@bengig3169 thats called immeasurable speed lmao.

[@itachikamui966]

stopping time is immeasurable speed which is faster than teleportation.

[@yureiunbound8441]

Lmao he doesn't need Velocity 9. He just needs someone to tell him "You're the Flash Berry. Now run Barry run!" And then he can go as fast as needed.

[@charlieswan7136]

Heh Berry . There's a universe out there with this spelling and another where he is the berry

[@EmeraldPhaze]

Nono. He needs Iris to tell him "We're the Flash."

[@youraveragegamer8832]

Validation is Barry's drug

[@shaharbob3167]

No, jo needs to cry, and then run barry run

[@bellissimo4520]

...except the "other" evil speedster of the season...

[@Billyies12]

So I forget which season it was in. But there is an episode where a nuke goes off. In that time Barry runs all over the city, talking to everyone about how he cant save them. Then iris gives him a pep talk and he takes the nuke, which still hasn't gone off yet, and runs it out to sea and runs back. He ran the entire course of a city, probably multiple times, and then dragged a nuke out to a safe distance and ran back. He did all of that in less time than it takes for an atom to split. The fact there is any crime anywhere in the world is insane.

[@dandydabberdude]

I think season 3 but I’m not sure.

[@kalebramirez7327]

Actually this is only half-right (and I say this having seen the episode yesterday. It's called "Enter Flashtime" and its in s4) the nuke goes off, he and Jesse both enter flashtime to try and figure out how to stop the nuke as it blows. He brings Cisco to flashtime and tries using Cisco's vibes but since there's almost no time passing in flashtime, Cisco can't breach. He then sends Jesse to earth 3 to get Jay Garrick to help. He tries to get Harry's genius to help and gets Killer Frost in flashtime to try and freeze it which fails, then all 3 flashes try to shoot lighting at it to counteract the nuke reaction but Jay runs out of speed before he can throw his lightning. Jesse then also runs out of juice and freezes. Barry goes to Iris to say his goodbyes as he tells her he tried everything and nothing worked and she gives him an idea which ends up working in the end (surprisingly no pep talks that episode. It's a banger of an episode). He went to the speed force, grabbed the wand Cisco made to trick the SF into thinking it was Barry so thry could get him out of there at the start of the season, and with the wand Barry brought the speed force storm (and its lightning) to stop the nuclear fusion reaction. Also all through the episode you can see the nuclear fusion reaction changing, proving that, even with how fast the flash is with flashtime, time's still moving and they were veeeery close to having the nuke exploding entirely

[@redshankyman4181]

@@kalebramirez7327 yeah. But all this happened in a matter of microseconds thanks to flashtime. This means that after that episode, literally no villain weaker than a reality warper should be able to make Barry so much as break a sweat

[@Coppermeshman]

That isn't even the only time he does that. there also another time when he used speed lightning so yeah its ridiculous

[@activ1]

You mixed two episodes together

[@kilerog]

The Flash's inconsistency makes perfect sense once you realize that the Plot Force is stronger than the Speed Force will ever be.

[@silverhetch3383]

Of course, the Speed Force is derived from the Plot Force.

[@DB-Fighter-Carson]

@@silverhetch3383 and all the other bs forces combine and still don't match up to plot force where they originally came from.

[@LordVodka313]

When you combine plot force with the brain of a CW writer, it all fits

[@mac1991seth]

CW's The Flash is the epitome of Plot Force meets Plot Armor.

[@magicalpj]

🤯

[@patrickbone5993]

Honestly I want a Flash tv show (animated or not) where it's a sitcom or comedy show where he's casually solving crimes while living a normal life. And shit just gets weirder and weirder as time goes on because Barry is just randomly disappearing and is way to good at very specific things.

[@calvin9654]

at first I thought it wouldn't be interesting but when you explained it I'm interested now

[@isaiaholaru5013]

ME AND PROBABLY LOTS OF OTHER PEOPLE WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE A THING, IF IT PLEASES THE BIG COMPANIES

[@Grygory-fd3kp]

So, onepunchman

[@I-Fail-A-Lotl]

@@Grygory-fd3kp yeah that would be awesome! And flash in the comics is very sympathetic so he could also try and get villains to be good people instead of zoning the hell out once someone walks behind a corner at human speeds

[@rjk537]

​@@Grygory-fd3kpis there an anime for literally everything??

[@JavaughnBlaziken]

It is actually insane how much this show breaks its own rules

[@livingincreation]

that's why i stopped watching it they even got the comics wrong lol

[@nicograms]

@@livingincreation There’s really nothing wrong with that. It’s an adaptation afterall. But this show’s inconsistency with itself is ridiculous.

[@jeffmerz5367]

thats bc the producers prioritize the writers skin color and gender over knowledge of source material or talent

[@livingincreation]

@@nicograms oh you mean kinda like how dragon ball evolutions is an adaptation 😂😂😂

[@imstuff205]

Well it’s kinda hard not to when you have an 8 season show about a guy with the strongest powers and no weaknesses.

[@OmegaHeroLegacy]

But if the Flash stops all crime that easily, how is he going to get a daily pep talk from his friends for emotional validation???

[@andrewramlall3560]

Yeah how else are we gonna have the once per episode hallway talk

[@StarboyXL9]

That always bothered me, like holy jeez I'm a literal wreck and even I would be uncomfortable getting that much constant encouragement. Like do people actually exist that need that level of emotional maintenance ?

[@composerinsocks]

@@StarboyXL9 Yeah. He's called Barry Allen.

[@nexinex6049]

@@StarboyXL9 yes, many real people do.

[@jonathanathor117]

I mean he can be like saitama or even kenpachi.

[@dedokta]

The dumbest thing about The Flash is that Star Labs hasn't figured out the very obvious benefits of going paperless yet.

[@hamoiq908]

He does like zooming in and out of rooms

[@londonc.]

yeah like with how many times they would have to pick up the papers bc he keeps running in and out of the rooms so fast that it creates a wind that carries the papers of the table would make you think that they would go paperless by like. the second time it happens?? but no they just keep laying papers around

[@cleverballoon6535]

​@@londonc.Yeah he should buy them like a thousand paper weights for christmas

[@londonc.]

@@cleverballoon6535 or buy them books on how to go paperless "thought these would be useful."

[@ChaosDesigned]

What are they printing out anyway?? Everything is a hologram or a tv screen, or a projector with a slide show.

[@PuppyTheTiny]

Flash having ANY problem against villains with no super speed NEVER made any sense Thanks for pointing it out It bothers me so much

[@joshuakei8925]

I think he might have problems against Doomsday, Black Adam, general Zod, Darkseid and basically Superman level villains, since I don't think he can physically harm them. I might be wrong, vibrating hand might be able to do something, but I haven't read any sources where reverse flash or flash used vibrating hand to kill Kryptonian level threats. Ye, Superman has superspeed, but I think Doomsday doesn't?

[@idiotgaming6376]

@@joshuakei8925 I think zod counts as super speed though cause ironman and him are both ridiculously fast I just realized I wrote iron man here 2 month later

[@sauce6746]

@@joshuakei8925 All those people u listed are either celestial beings or celestial adjacent and/or have superspeed

[@Tsuusetsu]

@@sauce6746 To a consistant speedster, this doesn't matter. The flash is to supermans speed as supermans speed is to an average human. They never really talk about it all that much, but speedsters speeds are incalcuable, breaking any laws of physics they want. I beleive things have been shown to phase tthrough superman before as well.

[@sauce6746]

@@Tsuusetsu Thats the funny thing tho because we can never get a consistent speedster cause hed be untouchable and have zero opposition unless he was caught of guard(when hes not in motion if unclear) without the means to react in time

[@sonicsega6]

You forgot about the cliche where the villains with normal speed "gets away" the second they run off screen. Like there's an episode in season 3 where frost runs out of the room while Barry is knocked down, and then when he gets up, he runs outside and says "I searched the entire building, she's gone"

[@Gorginlocks]

lmfao did he tuck into a corner X XD XD XD

[@cosmicvoidtree]

Every villain is just a teleporter but only when no one sees them.

[@malikaruvan5209]

this still gets me mad

[@MVPdobe2180]

And the crazy part is it was star labs where she had to take an elevator to get down and out of the building and she still somehow did that in less than 5 seconds and he lost her

[@jahz_287]

Theres like at least 15 scenes in season 1 where barry just lets normal speed villains get away like

[@epictoe7179]

1:48 “Linda’s 10 times better” “Facts” This video is perfect.

[@_darcc]

eh I liked Patty Spivot more ngl

[@impatientinc.9332]

Patty and Linda are tied for me

[@Jack-sw1km]

@@_darccLinda is still 10 times better than iris tho

[@garretthorner]

*Elderly man run out of a room into a hallway* Barry: “Damn he got away”

[@jayforprez]

@Mittens LMAO STOP 😂😂😂

[@desadograisedrobot515]

Madvocate beating Barry down "Nobody learns from their fl=king mistakes"

[@ObaREX]

No one who isn't a speedster or teleporter should EVER escape Barry. EVER.

[@tanakisoup19]

"I'm not fast enough" He screams as the villain slowly meanders down the street, not 50 feet from him.

[@dustingaethje1332]

That's because Barry's greatest foe is one we have all defeated by now: his lack of object permanence. You see, just like in a baby's mind, if an object leaves Barry's line of sight, there is no reason to assume that it still exists and therefore there is nothing he can do.

[@kawaiiqueee]

If the flash was a consistent show we'd have 42 minute episodes of him living a normal life, it'd be a sitcom. He's so fast every conflict would've ended by now

[@rexflamevermillion5527]

Except hunter,god speed,eyobard ,etc

[@immortalfrieza]

It really didn't have to be that way. The writers just made the stupid mistake of making Flash's speed inconsistent in season 1 and then just plain absurd the seasons after that. They could've made a good superhero show that was actually a superhero show easily just by giving him actual limitations and then sticking with them rather than just responding to every threat he has by jacking him up endlessly. You can say the same about a lot of Superheroes like Green Lantern and Superman.

[@mac1991seth]

Yeah, I stopped watching the show, but I've seen snippets here and there: Flash watching the Reverse Flash trying to punch him in slow motion and then let him run away after RF told him "I'll become faster!", there was this whole Flashtime BS that they tried to nerf (to no avail). After season 3, the entire series should be about Barry Allen trying to live normal life, disappearing for half a second every now and then to stop a random crime.

[@dumbidiot1119]

@@mac1991seth if you stopped watching 5 seasons ago i don’t think you should be giving out criticism of the newer seasons

[@RandomElk58]

@@immortalfrieza That’s why the Flash is boring as fuck. If you make a character too OP, then it deletes almost any sense of threat. So if you try to work around that, there will always be people saying shit like “BuT iN ThE cOmIcS”. I’m not trying to defend the Flash writers or say that they are doing a good job, but I am saying that writing the flash is just a pretty hard thing to do because it’s really hard to please everybody.

[@WhyNot-sb9vx]

You gotta make a full show about this premise, so Madvocate can finally be at peace.

[@summerrose8110]

I feel bad for him, hope he's doing well.

[@Kyleplaysgames567]

The flash should have been written like One Punchman. Where they are well aware that the protagonist is ridiculously overpowered and can end conflict in an instant.

[@crazymadstriker766]

One punch man works cause it is a comedy of a crazy overpowered bald man and usually focuses on the other characters. Flash is trying to take itself seriously

[@BobertBobson]

@@crazymadstriker766 Addendum: OPM works because it wasn't written by the CW

[@petelee2477]

@@crazymadstriker766 Also one punch man needs to actually get to the fight. The few times it does take itself seriously the question was never if Saitama could beat whatever monster showed up but more so if Saitama could actually show up in time to stop the monster from wiping out the city first? This can kind of tension usually won't work for The Flash because he can run multiple laps around the planet in less than a second. We can make this kind of tension work but it would have to be somewhere the flash can't just run to like in the vacuum of space or someone in the ocean only accessible to normal humans by a submarine. Let's also not forget that saitama himself despite supposedly being the main character of the series got hardly any screen time in season 2 so clearly there are still some flaws (still way better than the flash).

[@Aredel]

One Punch Man is so good because it also focuses on the impact this insanely powerful individual has on society. It’s entertaining witnessing figures both high and low react to his appearance and how the world and characters within change as a result.

[@ProjektTaku]

yeah, but the flash would have to change a few things. First, play it more like superhero comedy, and don't take itself too seriously and overcomplicate things. Make it a simple, streamlined funny story. Second, remove all the melodrama and pointless stuff like that. Third, shorten the seasons to 13 episodes like the marvel netflix shows.

[@angrychickengod3831]

The worst scene in season 1: when the Flash cleared out an entire room of robbers in an instant, then took Cpt Cold's sister, held a gun to her head, and yelled at CC to drop his cold gun.

[@RoosterGuy3880]

LMAO

[@ProjektTaku]

lol

[@ghost35789]

why didn't he just take the gun out of his hands

[@angrychickengod3831]

@@ghost35789 cuz then how would we do a spinoff show which is even more illogical where captain cold dies in the first season anyways?

[@yd_things]

Wait this actually happened?😂

[@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805]

"Barry, you have to run so fast that you TRAVEL THROUGH TIME/ TO ANOTHER WORLD" *Next Episode* "Barry how did that person beat you?" *"they literally dropped marbles on the floor and I slipped and just stayed on the ground instead of chasing them"*

[@spartanc173]

To be fair, have you tried slipping on marbles at supersonic speeds? That shit hurts, and even superhuman regeneration doesn't stop the pain.

[@ThomasJones-e3h]

​​@@spartanc173 to be fair, if he can react to bullets coming at him from behind then why can't he react to marbles going at normal speeds in front of him

[@spartanc173]

@@ThomasJones-e3h Momentum? If he's going forwards very quickly, it'll be difficult to then stop going forwards very quickly. Given the metahuman at the time also had reality-warping powers...

[@sly_cat]

@@spartanc173the momentum would make sense if speed force didn’t let him ignore it. (Every time he runs straight at a wall and just steps up)

[@spartanc173]

@@sly_cat Technically that's his momentum being redirected, not stopping altogether.

[@JavaughnBlaziken]

It makes me so annoyed with how often Barry has to stop and talk with the people he’s supposed to be apprehending and then gets his butt kicke

[@nexuskam968]

Talking bad one liner is not the problem, the problem is getting hit afterwards. If he can slow down the moment after an atom bomb explode to feels like an hour as well as moving so fast that bullets appear to be still after they pressed the trigger, he should never ever get punched or hit by any physical attack as long as he can move fast.

[@a_d3mon]

to be fair, most iterations of the flash treats his villains like people and tries to talk it out before resorting to violence

[@markgaumee]

@@a_d3mon FALSE, there's no violence needed he can just run them to jail and be back instantly.

[@markgaumee]

@@a_d3mon the only way violence is even an option is if the villain the flash is facing off against has super speed as well, but even then if he's already running fast the enemy can't just start running too so there's no episode either way lol

[@anidiot192]

@@a_d3mon but super speed is like, one of the most Overpowered superpowers of all time. Because they logically can't be hit due to their insane reaction time required to effectively move at those speeds, so they should react and immediately prevent any violence before it can happen. And that's not even considering the extra shit that accompanies it (like super strength, improved ability to learn, regeneration, improved durability, etc.) It's utterly broken and that's why the only credible threats to speedsters are fellow speedsters.

[@l_ck]

Barry: can run at speeds so fast he travels through time Also barry: "I wasn't fast enough...."

[@kingol4801]

Travel through time is more of a byproduct speedforce connection + some speed. He enters speedforce and exists at another location. He does NOT bruteforce his way past light-speed to time travel. Likewise, Batman was able to tape Flash onto his car and timetravel at the max speed of his vehicle, for the reasons above.

[@SeanWheeler100]

@@kingol4801 Even so, when Barry can time travel, not being fast enough is not an excuse because he can travel to the past to catch the villain before he left.

[@verm0gen]

he can time travel when the writer wants to include something cool but it conflicts with the story not by speed

[@dyscolored]

fun fact: he holds back his speed so he doesnt accidentally go into the speedforce

[@SeanWheeler100]

@@dyscolored But he still runs fast without getting trapped in the speed force.

[@wwatse]

It's crazy when you realise that flash's power is constantly being suppressed for plot reasons but the opposit can be said for Batman 😂

[@loganshaw4527]

The plot swords the villains have is insane.

[@Stackali]

except with talia.

[@Inebriated_Goat]

I just love how the fastest man alive will run at super speed to get to a location 50 miles away but then stops in front of the villain to talk and punch at regular speed

[@anonimanonim2710]

If he punches at super speed, he'd kill the villain

[@Aryan-g7u]

@@anonimanonim2710 or he could just relocate them. We’ve seen him pick people up and move them to other locations without them even knowing what happened. He moved a criminal outside of a moving car into the back of a cop cruiser and hand cuff him and was miles away before anyone realized what happened. Also his punches can kill people, but he definitely can control them. We’ve seen him punch at super speed and people still survive. He literally picked a guy up and while running at super speed slammed his head in a pole knocking him out. So don’t try to use the fact that he’d kill a person if he uses super speed as an excuse.

[@anonimanonim2710]

@@Aryan-g7u Even tho you're right, I refuse to admit defeat

[@ahshitherewegoagain8695]

​​@@Aryan-g7u Madvocate fan I see. It's nice to hear his logic in these subjects because that's the obvious solution lol.

[@EmiiLin1]

​@@ahshitherewegoagain8695 There's no where to run!

[@kingsofwrestlingpicfed]

It's always bothered me how they always talk about his metabolism but whenever we see him eat, he's not like shoveling food down his throat, like he should be

[@halogamerghost97]

I believe the justice league animated series did

[@adriancochran4585]

I believe he has some mega calorie dense bars or something that make up for it

[@if7723]

@@halogamerghost97 They did but it was mostly for goofy sight gags and not "god I'm so hungry". Young Justice actually shows Kid Flash having to top off mid mission which I always thought was a nice touch.

[@thomasraines1396]

@@if7723 in one episode he actually ran out of food while on the run.

[@if7723]

@@thomasraines1396 JL or YJ? Because I distinctly remember the heart transplant episode for YJ and he actually does mention it and eat from the emergency rations a couple times in other episodes but JL Flash I can only remember the jokes. Even Luther Flash didn't need to eat as much as he should and he should be completely unprepared.

[@Ryan50Ryan]

"The Flash is Insufferably Inconsistent" There's nowhere to run!

[@americankid7782]

(Bad guy proceeds to Run/Drive/Fly away)

[@spartanc173]

In all fairness, Madvocate did take that clip out of context. There was _literally_ nowhere Snart could have ran, being on a train.

[@Xgil2Play]

​@@spartanc173 But when you're the Flash, there's nowhere a villain can run because you're the Flash. There are scenes in the show where villains run at normal speed and Flash just gives up entirely even though they were gone for 3 seconds. Madvocate is using that clip the way it was intended to be used.

[@spartanc173]

@@Xgil2Play Certain villains can teleport, though, so they do have the ability to run. Or they do hostage situations. And even if they can't run from him, they can still hide.

[@Xgil2Play]

@@spartanc173 Did you not watch Madvocate's video? Most people that run away are regular civilians with no superpowers. Even if they hide, the Flash can look at every corner of the area in seconds.

[@TBoring]

“But you’re supposed to be with Iris.” “And Green Arrow is supposed to be with Black Canary.” “Fair Point.”

[@Oriansenshi]

THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT!

[@tenerife_sea]

agreed Velocity sucks

[@summerrose8110]

I hated Black Canary, she was annoying. As for Iris, it breaks my heart that CW fucked her character up by making her a selfish, inconsiderate asshole making the fan base hate her. I feel bad for Candace Patton, I hope she leaves the show, she's talented and deserves better. CW has ruined too many careers. I'm convinced CW only had Barry and Iris together was to get woke points for having an interracial relationship on the show. Kat Graham and Vanessa Morgan all over again, Hollywood using black people as pawns to make money off them while still treating us like shit behind the scenes and sweeping it under the rug.

[@kidkatanatv]

@@nenmaster5218 Hehe Madvocate

[@AzguardMike]

@@summerrose8110 facts!

[@dspace4514]

"Also, when did Iris become leader of the team?" "Well, when you went into the Speed Force, they needed a leader. And it also helps to have a female character in an important role." "Ok, but why her?" "What's wrong with Iris?" "She's a JOURNALIST! She has no idea how to do the stuff Cisco and Caitlyn do and barely keep up! Heck, JOE would have been a better pick than Iris! And didn't i make Cisco leader at the end of Season 3?" "He works better as comic relief. Besides, he didn't suffer like Iris" "THE MAN LOST HIS BROTHER!"

[@discworldfan]

good lord yes! Iris got worse and worse with every season... until she was dumber than a sack of bricks. she literally jumps in dangers IN SPITE of everyone in the show WARNED her about that.. then she scolds them for being... too stupid? the comic Iris would have be ashamed by CW-Iris.

[@JA432123]

I literally said this exactly a week ago lol!

[@martinacosta3821]

Yeah, i stopped watching when i saw that she became the leader, i cant with that level of stupidy, and just because they didnt know what to do with her.

[@MsBluebot]

@@discworldfan no kidding I was SO ticked off when iris purposely put herself in danger after Barry got back from the speed force and A lot of other instances too

[@clarkkent1473]

Omg 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@hkate7900]

The Flash: Outruns Death, Outruns The Big Bang, Outruns Light, Outruns teleporting gods, Out runs the literal speedforce itself. Also Flash: *Gets one tapped by a normal dude with a portable freezer*

[@wolfieplays2wolf199]

Yeah but he has to save someone else and that'll get him hit tho

[@phantomarp6909]

@@wolfieplays2wolf199 didn’t in one of the episodes he basically paused time cause a nuke was about to go off?

[@leoallison6807]

@@phantomarp6909 yeah, it was in season 4

[@saharudin3159]

ikr just punch the guy in face,boom settle send that guy to jail after that ..but no how about we show flash having hard time with this guy and his cool gun that shooting ice beam that slower than bullet .

[@HeroHeretic]

@@phantomarp6909he didn’t pause time itself, we just see his pov when he using his super speed but still yeah if he’s fast enough to where it looks like everything and everyone is frozen all of the of what defeated him shouldn’t have

[@madhatt45]

"Eight! Oh my God! When's this going to end?" So true. There are too many show examples to prove dragging it out never bodes well for content.

[@IsaiahRichards692]

66th Like!

[@TheAroVII]

I can't even think of how many shows I've dropped because of it getting drawn out

[@shubhammishra2614]

I dropped flash at season 4 because flash took whole fucking season to beat a guy who can't even walk.

[@matthewtalbot-paine7977]

8 seasons hmmm don't I know another show with eight seasons where the 8th season was so terrible it had everyone raging. Oh yeah Game of thrones.

[@keniel-prime6214]

@@matthewtalbot-paine7977 for the flash, it was the 7th season.

[@p-dizzle7538]

the funny part is Barry's mom technically does know he's the flash because of when he went back in time and told her him and his dad were fine

[@eZeero]

One version of her knew one version of Barry telling her that he is the flash. But flashpoint erased both versions of Barry(the one watching that eventually tells her as well as the one that actually saves her causing the flashpoint)...so yay...no version of Nora knowing he is the flash,excluding his daughter.

[@eZeero]

Excluding the speed force version as well since that isn't really his mother.

[@Hei_Darkfire]

Oh god, imagine if Savitar was based on a version of Flash with this intelligence... We'd all be screwed.

[@LazarusLong10]

Barry: “We need a quantum entangler” Sisco: “That doesn’t exist and has no practical purpose for anything outside this one situation…but yeah I keep one in my locker next to the reverse fusion reactor.”

[@msc0505]

FR

[@mac1991seth]

Reverse fusion is basically fission, but the audience wouldn't know, and the more smart words you throw at the problem, the better it sounds. Just reverse the polarity of the fusion reactor with the dark matter generator.

[@jeremylentz3907]

@@mac1991seth be mindful of the nanofluctuctuations in the Einstein-Rosen field

[@AidanXavier1]

@@jeremylentz3907 be careful not to bump the dingle arm

[@siredrediii7015]

Mitochondria

[@jotheunissen9274]

Not even acknowledging that the Flash can solve literally everything Flash can just run up to a library and learn everything about said problem in 0.1 attoseconds

[@duelist4512]

Ok, now you're going too fast, even he can't think that fast.

[@6ix750]

@@duelist4512 he can

[@MrMarioman14]

Can and has done it in the comics.

[@jotheunissen9274]

@@duelist4512 He can, he absolutely can The Flash's entire body including his brain works at almost light speed (sometimes it can even reach light speed to travel in time, like in Flashpoint)

[@oliverandersen3507]

He couldn’t go that fast because the light would take too long to go from the book to his eyes

[@awsome1536]

The idea of putting iris is Argus was the smartest thing I have ever heard in my entire life

[@spartanc173]

Yeah, once you neutralise Savitar's speed, all you need to get past is the 7-foot tall... mechanised... indestructible suit of armour... I mean, yeah, it would have been a great plan, but still not perfect. Hell, what's stopping Savitar from just teleporting in the way he was teleporting around the city?

[@SkyPerson]

@@spartanc173he was ‘teleporting’ around the city by running so fast nothing could perceive his existence. Or he was entering the speed force. But either way once you turn off his powers he can’t do that and is just barry in a mecha

[@spartanc173]

@@SkyPerson What stops him from teleporting in, killing Iris, then fighting his way out in his Iron Man suit?

[@SkyPerson]

@@spartanc173 I guess nothing? Edit: heck his magic Iron Man suit might even protect him from Meta-Dampeners

[@spartanc173]

@@SkyPerson It's made out of pure Speed Force energy. I'd be more surprised if it didn't.

[@piranhaplantX]

Damnit, Barry. You're supposed to stand still for their quips, monologues, and hostage negotiations first. You also have to make an entrance and make sure they're aware you're there so they have a fair chance to make things difficult. Though, in fairness, the villains are pretty dumb for not prepping the field for him. If I was a villain anywhere in Flash's zone of influence. I'd make sure I had a metric fuckton of ball bearings, caltrops, grease, broken glass, or ice on the floor before kicking off whatever I'm doing. I'd probably still lose, but at least I made an effort.

[@orchestraoverseer9426]

I mean with flashe's speed he doesn't keep the whole US safe just because he doesn't want to

[@piranhaplantX]

@@orchestraoverseer9426 I mean, in his defense he needs time to sleep, eat, and enjoy things. Eating and pooping specifically would likely take up a lot of his time, because of insane metabolism. Which might just limit how much crime he could stop in a day.

[@orchestraoverseer9426]

@@piranhaplantX yes, sometimes when you are dealing with the topic of a man who can run at around mach 5 velocities you forget he is also a human just like any of us

[@itwasidio1736]

@@orchestraoverseer9426 But given he has super speed… Barry could vibrate his rectum and intestines… take a super dump within a second.

[@orchestraoverseer9426]

@@itwasidio1736 I am so grateful that you have answered me Dio. I am your greatest fan. Planning on picking up what Pucci started

[@thenerdoflife4302]

This is painfully accurate. There's also the fact that Barry's speed throughout the series has been inconsistently stated/represented, he's able to suddenly defeat the episode's villain after a pep-talk by the team, and the amount of screentime everyone else gets compared to him.

[@phoebusapollo8365]

That’s not even the worst of Flash’s inconsistency, there are times when he’s stated to run at Mach 3 or something then we’re shown he sees fucking *lightning* in slow motion. Lightning moves at Mach 351. Bullets should be frozen in time compared to him, he’d be able to stop crime all over the city in a continual basis.

[@thenerdoflife4302]

@@phoebusapollo8365 Indeed, which was what I was referring to when stating that there's a difference between how is speed is shown scientifically vs. stated explicitly. At his speed, even without Flashtime, people shouldn't be able to differentiate between him standing and leaving to stop a crime/do whatever + returning other than the energy released from him running.

[@Il_Exile_lI]

@@phoebusapollo8365 The writers have a terrible grasp on science. When Mick Rory is introduced, they say his gun heats things up to the planck temperature, which would require a power source orders of magnitude more powerful than the sun and basically destroy the entire solar system when fired. Then there's also in Elseworlds when they say Barry and Kara need to "circle the Earth at Mach 7," which would mean one revolution around the planet would take over 4 and a half hours, but we see them doing multiple revolutions per second, which would put their speed at like Mach 250,000 at least. A little faster than Mach 7. Of course, these are just two examples among dozens.

[@bamboozle1878]

The whole I ran around the city multiple times while a literal nuke was exploding and also fast enough to reverse time but I cant outrun the cold gun or run up those stairs in .21 seconds always cracked me up.

[@abaddon6078]

cant outrun cold gun + running up stairs were before running arounmd the city multiple times while nuke was exploding, he was slower before

[@lonelylama5222]

@@abaddon6078He was shown being able to run much faster than bullets and being able to relocate people to the other side of the city in seconds.

[@IAmBael]

I have a feeling Zach did this entire rant in his head after watching The Flash, and then did that iconic Zach thinking face and went "I should do that again, but out loud and on camera!"

[@StarboyXL9]

"And monetize it"

[@ExpertCobra-tn1vt]

@@StarboyXL9 not only monetize it, but monetize it in a way that it fits the video

[@cannf]

I like how he can stop time, phase through anything and he has super fast reaction speed but can still get punched by a normal person

[@zero10593]

I know that this is a stretch and I mean a lot but maybe he had to activate, like a lightbulb. Still dumb tho

[@made.by_noah]

The Linda one got me the hardest. I knew they were setting up Barry and iris from the beginning but I really liked Linda

[@Fran_5]

Thing is, this villain was created before the concept of the Speedforce. When Flash was somewhat restricted by physics it made sense to have a villain that freezes the floor and forces him to slow down due to the risk of a slippery floor. It just doesn't really work at all now.

[@kingol4801]

Cold gun does NOT freeze. It is not a freeze gun. Hell, even comics themselves addressed it many times over. It STOPS motion of molecules to the point of dropping temperature straight to absolute 0 (no motion at all). Hence, it is a perfect weapon against somebody who’s only power is speeding up, as it would just negate their powers altogether. Another issue - speedster’s awareness and speedforce usage is a toggle. Truth is, nobody would want to live in a frozen world, and hence, in order to have a conversation etc…. Function as a human being, really, speedsters tend to slow down/stop using their powers. That is when they are most vulnerable. A great example is RF’s death by Batman. He was so invested in holding a conversation and letting Flash see the world burn, real-time, that he did not notice the bullet going against his skull until the last second. By the time he realized it and speed up, it was too late. (It did not stop him permanently, but it did “kill” him, until his death/life was undone by time travel and he became the “universal constant”). So, combine a situation with speedster being distracted + a gun which renders speed useless (it should not be a projectile, really, it is an instantaneous ray which THEN turns air into ice on its path) and you get a well-functioning villain. Similarly, killer Frost does NOT freeze things. She is a energy vampire, which sucks out any energy out of the target instantaneously, and THEN converts it into those icy projectiles. When Killer Frost touched adefeated Superman, she got a whole energy of a Sun within her, freezing any matter/motion itself around her from that burst of immense surplus energy. So, yes, these villains do work against MOST speedsters. The upper-tier-speedsters, however, can kill them before they think/use powers etc.

[@ninjafrog6966]

@@kingol4801 these villains do work against speedsters, the only problem is how the show writes them to a stupid degree

[@HandledToaster2]

@@kingol4801 I got some news for ya... Slowing down molecules IS freezing.

[@kingol4801]

@@HandledToaster2 I am well aware

[@AnonymouslyForgotten]

@@kingol4801 People always defend Cold by saying this, but the thing is, this was NOT mentioned in the show. Therefore it is not cannon. If the show writers really wanted to prove Snart was a threat, THEY SHOULD OF EXPLAINED IT. If they even bothered to mention his cold field, their audience wouldn’t have had half the confusion they have now. You shouldn’t have to go to alternate sources to make sense of a writer’s mess.

[@jarnedewitte2496]

sure is sad when the only good counter to super speed is super duper speed

[@Aredel]

There are a few other counters to it, but a writer needs to be *extremely* careful about the kinds of villains a speedster fights, otherwise they ruin the consistency and believability of their show.

[@dan-us6nk]

@@Aredel as happened in almost every major piece of content featuring said type of hero.

[@kartonrealista]

You can counter it with traps, to a degree. It still takes time for a trap to engage after being triggered, no matter how instantaneous it seems, so if you're fast enough nothing can stop you.

[@Aredel]

@@kartonrealista Even if the trap goes off, it still needs to be able to make contact or impede the speedster. A pitfall or spike trap won't do shit, as they'd already have run across it and kept going.

[@kartonrealista]

@@Aredel I was thinking of poisons or magic curses, something quick and activated at point-blank range, otherwise you don't even stand a chance. Another thing that could work but can get countered with enough speed is point-blank teleportation, like teleporting a weapon right outside the fast guy's body. Area of effect also could work, but if we are being realistic running at let's say 2/3 of the speed of light generates 11.5 times the kinetic energy of the Tsar Bomba (assuming you weigh 70 kg). You become an area of effect just by merely hitting air with your body.

[@spoon1540]

I like the show, and one of those things that makes me like it is the science part and how they explain everything, and it really contradicts how smart the characters are supposed to be when this happens

[@solgaleo3724]

Flash technically maintained the title of the fasted man alive because of the key word alive. He kills literally anyone faster than him by having his team create some sort of weapon to stop em. Flash is the fastest man ALIVE.

[@mrstar3218]

Yet he says he ‘doesn’t kill’, THE DUDE KILLS

[@heatherthedutch-american1481]

Ha! You have to stay on top somehow.

[@pepe-zj6cn]

Also Savitar was technically him, and Reverse flash wasn't born yet (or never because of time travel)

[@thomasraines1396]

It’s really fucked up how Barry has canonically killed/contributed to someone dying and none of the characters react or care, and yet they still bitch and whine about it.

[@Nobody1707]

​@@mrstar3218 Except in the comics we're he usually has a body count of one. Reverse Flash killed Iris, and then four years later went to kill Fiona Webb. So Barry snapped his neck. Even Batman said the guy had it coming.

[@MLGHazrad]

I remember how the flash left to get the guy to the hospital while the criminals were going 30 miles per hour on their bikes. He left faster than the men escaping.

[@Joe-pj1qx]

Yeah, and apparently he never came back for the criminals after dropping the guy off at the hospital.

[@Ritt3086]

The Flash: There's no where to run The script writers: Are you sure about that?

[@sun5et956]

The points here are... actually pretty true. I'm a longtime fan of the show, and even I know that Linda was better for Barry than Iris was. Also the Savitar stairs thing opened my eyes SO MUCH

[@manwithoutmercy]

Patty was the best

[@jdogzerosilverblade299]

those were some pretty nice stairs. great eye openers.

[@sumisu2578]

Even Caitlyn would be better

[@ShadowRavencroft]

Iris is so freaking annoying. She has nothing compared to the rest of the team, except for telling Barry he should not give up and telling him to run.

[@dragonlord3376]

On the Savitar thing, why didn't Iris just, I dunno, hop dimensions, then hop on a plane to australia or africa? Even if Savitar did reach that dimension, it's not like he can fly (in this continuity)

[@Jonathan_Wall]

This is why I like the story The Fall of Doc Future, on the internet. It's basically the only story with a speedster that actually addresses how powerful someone would be with even just near lightspeed movement.

[@mightbeapersonmaybe8379]

While worm by wildbow doesn't feature speedsters all that much, there are only two in the entire story. And Leviathan doesn't count cause he's essentially an endgame boss. The other speedster velocity has a very interesting take on superspeed. He gets really fast because he can transition his body partially into light which means he can move faster at the expense of interacting with the world around him. Which actually explains why he needs to slow down

[@Jonathan_Wall]

@@mightbeapersonmaybe8379 Yeah that story just had cooler powers in general than any other superhero story ever put to screen. I still have nightmares about Bonesaw cutting me open or releasing that actual zombie virus she created lol

[@mightbeapersonmaybe8379]

@@Jonathan_Wall dude same. Terrifying little girl ain't she? You remember Gavel? The birdcage guy who had a weird brute power? Always wanted to throw him against characters who just punch harder instead of thinking around a problem

[@thomasweeden2683]

@@mightbeapersonmaybe8379 holy shit other people who have read Worm lets gooo

[@mightbeapersonmaybe8379]

@@thomasweeden2683 wooooo!!!

[@arcanewarrior863]

Honestly, I feel the Flash's issues shouldn't be him being fast enough, but instead revolve around issues like the consequences of using his power

[@toricon8070]

same goes for other DC heroes (Superman, Batman, etc.). unfortunately, that doesn't have the mass appeal needed to get big.

[@sly_cat]

@@toricon8070I feel like anime’s like full metal alchemist do it well. Everyone uses alchemy in interesting ways but the rules are always consistent. Working in a set of rules is always the more interesting one

[@Chara_the_god]

"Because quantum mechanics. " "Oh okay." You really nailed it, didn't you? Lmfao.

[@kingol4801]

The real reason is Savitar’s suit. It is by far one of the most OP protective shells in the history of comics. Given that it can literally negate nigh-infinite forces of friction, it is not a stretch that it can negate some (infinitely small in comparison) frequencies blocking meta-powers. The only thing that can damage that armour are other speedster’s powers, as the suit itself is powered by a limited-but-ever-replenished-from-the-wearer speeedforce charge.

[@hhgff778]

Wait, that's actually genius, if they bring Iris where all metahumans are powerless Savitar can't really reach her, I mean look at this giant armor he has without the speed force he probably can't even move in it.

[@viperstriker4728]

Unless you just hyper punches a piece of tungsten through the building.... But that would take way more wind up them just stabbing her so yeah still better then their plan.

[@thedeck-buildingdemon8293]

Not really genius, just common sense. Madvocate didn’t seem to need a lot of time to figure it out in “The Flash is Insufferably Inconsistent Season 3”, and it was basically spelled out by one of the characters. Hopefully he summons enough sanity to keep tearing down the CW, since the Flash is so fun to rip to shreds, and his editing style is hilarious.

[@leepicrandomaa]

Even worse, because Savitar is Barry. Team Flash just need to have Iris on an plane without Barry knowing because what Savitar gonna do? Use the speed force: Flying edition to catch her?

[@leepicrandomaa]

@@thedeck-buildingdemon8293 I doubt that, Season 7 got destroyed on Youyube but somehow the CW still make another season, though luckily season 8 start out quite decent (which I doubt would last till the end)

[@maxdrags3115]

@@leepicrandomaa Stupid, Savitar was able to create portals to get around the city 🤦🏼

[@JoNarDLoLz]

Honestly, I'd enjoy it a 10 second episodes of the Flash where he just solves every problem easily

[@Vaultyboi22]

Patty spivot is easily my favorite love interest in the flash, their chemistry was amazing

[@Gaze73]

Yeah, much better than Iris, zero chemistry.

[@summerrose8110]

It's kind of a blessing that Shantel VanSanten was kicked off the show so she wouldn't have to stick around with more nonsensical bullshit with Flash.

[@InitialPC]

really? because she was my least favorite she was really bitchy in the end and basically extorted/coerced him to reveal his identity to her I know its supposed to be this sweet moment but she literally called her ex who she broke up with and still loves her and told him that she was about to die on a train to see if the flash would show up, thats fucked up

[@khaalmalki4039]

@@InitialPC That was too late dude. At that point they changed her character to get rid of her and end their relationship. In the beginning they were decent and she was awesome.

[@EasternUmi]

Any love interest barry had is much better than iris, even felicity and i hate that woman.

[@zakosist]

Even if the flash can move at light speed, could he actually move other people at that speed without destroying and basically killing them? They dont have any superpowers to protect them

[@howedaddy6122]

Thr flash has control over the speed force which is basically a plot device that let's him do all the things he does without breaking the laws of physics or hurting anyone

[@yds6268]

cause speed force something something

[@drdivinity]

Its explained that the speed force protects everything that a speedster is in contact with from any outside forces

[@jamestomato1744]

The way the speed force works, anything that the flash touches will also be protected by the speed force so I think he should be able to.

[@MyHandleIsGood]

Then how can he attack people?

[@MaxWelton]

3:03 I guess Savitar could only be created if he stabbed Iris on that street at that time, which is why HR’s death was about to erase him

[@editiorschoice2139]

Later he tried to kill her again. So that don't make much sense.

[@JeanPGuy3000]

They could have fixed Captain Cold by giving him his Cold Field from the the comics and acknowledging the low temperatures is Flash's weakness

[@kingol4801]

That is not low temperature. That is ridiculous. Flash can just move faster and heat up the area around him in an instant due to his speed, no matter the temperature. Low temperature is a by-product. When you suck out any energy/motion of an object, their temperature would drop to absolute 0. What his gun (and killer frost’s power) really do is act as energy vampires and nullifying any energy/speed. Consequentially, they freeze air around them when they use their powers, or redirect said energy into icy projectiles/other blasts etc.

[@itwasidio1736]

While Leonard’s cold gun slows down Flash’s molecules to a halt, low temperatures don’t affect his speed that much. In Justice League Doom, he runs through an iceberg.

[@DeanLovesCas]

"tell me someone who doesn't know" "... Your mom" "my mom died!" "AHA! Maybe you shouldn't have told her" Well, now I'M dead

[@ProjektTaku]

lol

[@cappluf4432]

For someone who has watched every season of the flash this is so true and I was raging when the flash stops just to talk to the evil guy and lets him press the trigger which causes 20 more episodes to be made. I'm just glad someone had pointed this out to the world

[@VladyO]

You know, this was all fairly justifiable in the first season with Barry learning his abilities much earlier than he should have with Thawne manipulating history. Actually thought it was a clever way to more slowly develop the characters and build anticipation for Barry to become a more effective superhero. No, it was just the start of a formula. If the first season didn't end on a cliffhanger I'd argue the first season could have and should have been the only season in hindsight.

[@kingol4801]

Second season worked. Third season was all over the place and writers did dirty on Savitar. Precisely that though. Moving sub-light-speed is Flash’s S4 feat, and anything prior to that makes sense, by him being not THAT fast.

[@fiction5559]

@@kingol4801 Yeah, it was good until Season 2, after that its been Season after Season of nothing but shite. This show should have been cancelled a long time ago.

[@willchurch8376]

@@kingol4801 Although him 'accidentally time travelling' before he was moving near light speed, or outrunning the pull of a singularity/black hole's gravity seem to call that into question.

[@immortalfrieza]

The issue was entirely the fact that the writers didn't have any restraint. They made the exact same mistake that the Flash comics did by just endlessly jacking him up rather than doing what they should've done and making sure he had consistent limitations thus writing him to work around said limitations. Reverse Flash/Zoom/Savitar/Some other speedster is faster than him? Have Barry develop his skills with the Speedforce and plan sometimes on the fly to close the gap, don't just make Barry faster.

[@willchurch8376]

@@immortalfrieza Yeah, no shit. And they should have done that as well with the villains. It's fine to have some villains 'even faster' than him, but it basically boiled down to any serious villain was faster than him, any speedster not faster than him was a goddamn joke, and any non-speedster villain could disappear immediately after running off camera. Back in the 90s, when Wally West was the Flash, there was a Return of Barry Allen storyline, which featured Wally struggling against a speedster faster than himself. Later on, in Dead Heat, we were introduced to Savitar, a new speedster villain, but instead of making him 'faster than Wally', he was able to steal other speedsters' speed (not Wally's), give speed to other people (his army), and had so many improved ways of using his speed that Wally was really forced to outthink him. And then, when they introduced Zoom, he had a completely different powerset and motivation, where he more or less stopped time rather than moved fast, and where he was obsessed with improving heroes (by putting them through tragedy). Compare that to the TV Show. Reverse Flash, hates Barry Allen because he's a sociopath, is faster than Flash. Zoom, hates Barry Allen because he's a psychopath, is faster than Flash. Savitar, hates Barry Allen because he's psychotic, is faster than Flash. I didn't really see the Godspeed stuff, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say he hates Barry because he's psychotic and is also faster than him.

[@RightBoyKA-POW]

And the moral of the story: Snart is NOT a big threat to The Flash, because he's still actually just a normal man with a gun. He's just another common bad guy who can only move at normal speed.

[@willchurch8376]

To be fair, in the comics, he was invented a long time before 'the speed force' was a concept, and so freezing the ground was a perfectly good way to catch the Flash off guard, since it doesn't matter how fast he's going if he doesn't have traction. Also in the comics, it has been shown that while he isn't a speedster, compared to 'normal guys with guns', he's insanely fast, accurate and hard to hit himself. Because of course a guy whose main accomplishment/purpose in life is 'screwing with a guy who moves at light speed' is going to make normal guys feel like they're moving through molasses. And ALL that said, the actual "Rogues' Gallery" villains have never been the most dangerous threats to the Flash. Gorilla Grodd, Reverse Flash, Abra Kadabra were considered the most dangerous Silver Age villains, and Wally (who got three major boosts in speed in Flash 50, 79 and 100) had a ton of speedster villains. His biggest non-speedster threats were probably Cobalt Blue and Cicada. (And technically Zoom II, but none of us really consider him not a speedster.)

[@mccharles1257]

In the comics he had a "cold field", field around him that slows Barry or any other speedster to such a degree that allows him to hit them with his great aim. The field is so strong any non-speedster person that enters it essentially immediately dies , and bullets are completely stopped by it. The show could've given cold this field or just used one line of dialogue to say he does and effectively nothing would've changed in terms of him as a villain.

[@willchurch8376]

@@mccharles1257 When did he get this field in the comics? Certainly not in the Silver Age.

[@somethingwithultra7231]

@@willchurch8376 Iirc this was one of those new 52 things? As for how to stop him, there's still honestly various ways of Barry just continually throwing dozens of objects at him at mach 3 or so. I think the cold field could very easily be bypassed by supernatural beings, even if bullets aren't enough.

[@uchuyle8172]

@@willchurch8376 Again, he still needs to hit the Flash. Why couldn't he just dodge when he could literally dodge a whole barrage of bullets? Not to mention the fact that a, a freeze gun is impossible to use because you will just block your own ray and b, with that amount of heat he creates just by running, considering the speedforce didn't exist and we somewhat follow real life physics, he would instantly melt, if not vaporize anything. Furthermore, the traction thing is, to be completely frank, a load of bull. So you're telling me he can easily run on fking water but somehow cannot do something about frozen ground?

[@maxvogt3515]

Madvocate did a great analysis of all the terrible action scenes. It doesn’t even cover the dialogue, or the other contrived conflicts.

[@NotSoGoodDark]

"Just Quantum Mechanics." is just another way of saying "our plot makes sense even if you don't understand it. And you don't understand it cause you're stupid. But don't worry our die hardfans(ultra nerds) will figure out a way to make it sound like it does to your small brain." If there's one thing about Superhero comics I hate it's that they love to ruin their consistency/pacing for cheap drama and high(invisible) stakes.

[@AJXO-30]

Was looking for this comment!

[@jasonreed7522]

"high stakes" but we all know they won't actually kill any of the core cast off in a way that sticks and if they destroy the world we cant have a show anymore. Much better stakes were things like getting his dad out of jail, or determining if killer frost goes evil. Emaller stakes where the characters can fail and not have it end the show are much better. (More believable in that they can fail) And its always painful when writers just technobable diwn to the audience, at least star trek is doing it out of legacy from the 60's or so and doesn't really try to convice us that this is how the real world works, only the star trek universe.

[@NotSoGoodDark]

@@jasonreed7522 the comics suffer the most from this. The stakes just keep going hugger and higher till they lose the sense of danger. At this point it's usually like this. An 'Ancient Evil' has risen to destroy the uni/multiverse. Some di©kwad from the future/past decided to do something stupid. Or an OP Superhero goes rogue due to *insert revelation/traumatic event* It's only a matter of time before some says something like. "So what is it this time? *Mentions the things written above one by one* ?" If it hasn't said yet

[@supersani21]

One could say that Savitar's suit cancels out the meta dampeners since it is of unknown build but more importantly Savitar has the option to kill every human in that military facility and destroy the dampener source to get Iris but the show doesnt do a good job explaining why that plan fails

[@TheModeler99]

All the langueages in the world an you choose to speak facts. Also, don't these shows know that its okay to nerf your heroes? At the start of Flash series, he was movinvg at like 300mph which is fast, but not bullet fast. It's a much better even fight for most villians. Then things got crazy.

[@donovanlarsen7982]

I laughed first because of how accurate and funny it is. The second because reimagined this being an actual conversation between Cisco and Barry and how well it worked.

[@Profile__1]

If there was a TV show that was accurate to the Flash's abilities, crime fighting and villain battles would be fixed in the first 5 minutes of each episode, and the rest of the episode would just be really run-of-the-mill issues like taxes and stuff.

[@gilbertmillers4865]

Absolutely true

[@fasterbaiter]

Never clicked on a video this fast. Petition for Zach to direct/write atleast one episode of the flash. P.S. I miss elongated man 😭

[@shinkaiatsuya950]

I know some people found him annoying, Im not one of those people.

[@rainbowz3210]

He wrote sexist tweets and was fired

[@needless2048]

Who is elongated man?

[@romallohenry5700]

@@rainbowz3210 Weren't those from years ago?

[@fasterbaiter]

@@rainbowz3210 those were like a decade ago. Makes no sense to fire him now tbh. If that's the case a lot of celebs shouldnt be acting 😭

[@johnsmith8981]

Lol it's hard to write for the flash because his powers are straight bullshit. Flash is my favorite character but speedforce is just broken the Flash can literally perceive the time between attoseconds yet my guy is always getting tripped or some dumb shit 😂 He should literally appear to not move at all as he speeds through the city and saves everyone and then gets back to his date. It's even been demonstrated that he can consciously and meticulously do things while in the speed force or he can just like let his body do it automatically. In other words, he doesn't even have to perceive all that time running around the city saving people as a shit ton of time he can just like Zoom through it barely being conscious. The dude should just like appear to twitch a little bit once or twice during the date as he literally goes around the entire city solving every single problem before the light even hits her Iris. My favorite flash story is the time where he went a little bit nuts and started going around the city being the sole policeman trying to build a utopia for good people and outright killing people the literal second they step out of line.

[@natperXD]

That sounds like an interesting read, which comic was that from? I agree that Flash is broken because of his speed. He can literally stop any crime the second he's on the scene as long as they aren't speedsters or people with super speed. There should be zero reason he gets hit by normal people.

[@Aredel]

Here’s an idea: don’t have him start this fast. Have him gradually build up to his insane speed over the course of the show.

[@ProjektTaku]

@@Aredel but hopeful make the seasons shorter, like 13 episodes per season. Or hell, maybe even 6 episodes per season like those marvel shows.

[@craig7405]

@@ProjektTaku daredevil, iron fist, etc. are all 12 episodes

[@ProjektTaku]

@@craig7405 check again, their 13 episodes.

[@MaxWelton]

3:25 they changed the headlines to prove the future can be changed. That wouldn’t stop Savitar from trying to create himself.

[@rookiedrifter4273]

The thing is Barry's mom DOES know he's the Flash. He showed up and showed her that he was alive and that he and his dad were okay. This man throws his secret identity out the window all the time, and he should, he's so mind-breakingly fast that just about anybody who doesn't have the power of rewriting reality can't beat him.

[@spartanc173]

Unless they, y'know, attack him in his sleep, plant a bomb in his office, nuke STAR Labs, or just generally go after the people he loves. Barry's fast, but he's still human, not a god.

[@GamePandaXXL]

So I Love the flash. And it’s loopholes. Remember when in season 1 episode 2 Barry was burning his calories like immediately so Cisco invented some kind of super snack that fixes that? The problem is never addressed again. Even when Barry switches worlds for days.. and apparently every other speedster has access to that super snack? That is like the zombies in TWD using tools and climbing in episode 1 and then NEVER doing that again

[@molassesman4066]

Nah more lkke zombies being genetically altered to have climbing fingers but only 15 zombies The dlscientist then dies and the zombies are obliterated but over the course of the next season every single zombie effortlessly scales anything with no mention to the climbing zombies at all

[@yeah_ImAFish]

“Cause quantum mechanics” “Oh, okay” Probably the most show-like part of this skit 😂

[@sunamaruna4608]

YEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!! SOMEONE HAD TO SAY ALL THAT!!!! I mean, literally everytime the Flash could have solved a situation in a few moment, suddenly there are three million problems that appear out of nowhere that were never addressed before! I loved this video soooooo much. You did an amazing work once again!

[@sentientshadow126]

It may please you to know, that someone has: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWq7mWqVjduhfKs

[@WhosParx]

''persuasion of the vibrations'' lmfao had me in stiches

[@RandomContent-nd]

1:30 even Nora Allen knows. When he went back in time to save his mother, he decided not to. And before she died he told Nora that he's the flash. Not that it even matters because the flash was not even a thing back then.

[@ptolemeeselenion1542]

More consistent than an episode of Flash. We need a consistent Riverdale episode now.

[@Unknownigen]

you ask for the impossible

[@malikaruvan5209]

hahaha

[@jeffersongonzalez8954]

I wasn't fucking expecting that 2:02

[@cbhorxo]

3:52 Savitar could destroy the power dampening facility by lightning tosses

[@jtgd]

“Lightning bolt!”

[@Gaonkkk]

What?

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

“But in the comics and show, they’ve shown that the Flash can be blindsided. Plus, he talks to his enemies because he sees them as people who can be reformed.” Everything about the Flash is fast, and a man moving at escape velocity would be nigh-invincible. Flash can move at beyond light speed. The moment something makes contact with his skin or face or enters his lungs, he should be able to react and subdue everyone even after giving a speech. I have a theory: The moment Flash gets hit with something, Barry’s body and mind just gives up and that’s why he loses.

[@EskChan19]

Comics are also very inconcistent though. One comic showed that he basically CAN'T be blindsided. It had a sniper shoot at him. Barry was unharmed because his nervous system is also in super speed so he felt the bullet touch his skin and then he just stepped aside and the bullet didn't even leave a scratch. He's so fast that he can out-react things as they are making contact with him.

[@kingol4801]

@@EskChan19 Which was lucky of the Flash. RF died from bullet, however (you can look it up on KZbin) - he reacted too late and by the time he sped up, it was over. But yes, Flash can be blindsided. Just not by a sniper, really. Batman only managed that feat of killing RF because HE IS BATMAN. Perfect ninja, finding the right moment of RF lowering his guard down due to his investment in their conversation and gloating. There is a difference between having a semi-awareness and having no awareness at all. Flash was just minding his business, meaning that his subconscious was still vigilant. RF arrived to the pinnacle of his dreams, as he wishes everything to happen that way to his very core, which is why his subconscious was NOT such reactive. RF tried to 100% live in the moment then. So, really, it depends! Likewise, Deadshot was able to sniper rifle Flash in Injustice 2, due to Flash not even imagining that somebody will have the audacity to shoot him with anti-meta bullets WHILST him super-speeding around the city.

[@filipbruzzolo8747]

@@kingol4801 i agree with the first part, but the deadshot sniping of flash in injustice is just fucking stupid. The bullet caught up with flash who was going in super speed, it's just not good writing.

[@kingol4801]

@@filipbruzzolo8747 The bullet did not “catch up”. It intercepted him due to Deadshot planning the shot ahead to the millisecond. Also, meta bullets are a thing.

[@ragegaze3482]

@@kingol4801You really can't defend that logically. It's just a comic bro, it makes no sense, trying to make it sound like it makes any sense just comes across as silly. Any super hero with super speed beyond lightspeed with a reaction time to equal it would be unstoppable by literally any other super power let alone a gun lol. He would literally be able to feel the change in air pressure associated with the bullet coming close to him even without seeing or knowing it was coming. Or like the other guy said, he could just feel it touch his skin and immediately move out of the way. you would physically need instantaneous reaction time to travel that fast afterall.

[@joshfactor1]

well, technically, (spoiler alert) he is savitar so if savitar is faster than rf & zoom, he would still technically be the fastest man alive (at least up until the end of season three)

[@ninjatortise8958]

And, back in season 2 he did that end up becoming faster than the reverse flash it after the reverse flash went back in time to figure out Barry's identity

[@ninjatortise8958]

He was literally fast enough, to grab the reverse flash and put him in the pipeline

[@ninjatortise8958]

( I'm rewatching earlier seasons ) like I'm pretty sure he gets to a point where he surpasses every previous Speedster

[@matthewsnyder3905]

I've noticed that. There was the episode when he was old I think it was, and he said "I can't go over mach 10. That's a lot slower than usual" yet it takes him like 30 seconds to a few minutes to cross the city. Also, the mach speed punch against his childhood bully was cool, and the 5 mile run up was fine. But after, he literally vibrated the molecular structure of his body faster than sound, and somehow still needs a runup to get his fist moving mach 1. One thing I appreciate though is that the science, though theoretical, isn't bad.

[@Yumikos]

I still enjoy watching the show but damn this was so accurate lmfao, 1 episode he's super fast and actually smart and then the next he's the slowest he's ever been 😂

[@uncolaman99]

Thanks for exploring and clarifying a lot of things I think we've all wondered about, at least a little.

[@saucekidjayy9750]

@1:20 bruuuuh this mad me so mad. Like they have a big discussion about not telling people he the flash and he literally tells someone it two seconds later …. What was the point ?

[@eman7183]

I find it very odd that the evil speedsters don’t just carry around knifes. They have fist fight in super speed and you’re telling me not one of the evil speedsters ever thought of bringing a knife.

[@alex2005z]

One of my first thoughts.

[@beyman7962]

Thing is half the time they need him alive and semi well, and when they don’t he’s too fast for them

[@helloneighbour2408]

@@beyman7962 he said EVIL speedsters, read.

[@Boneless-Bones]

@@helloneighbour2408 I think you need to reread what they said. They're talking about how the villain needs Bary alive, not the other way around. Read correctly.

[@LiamTolentino]

That's what I loved about Savitar's design lol unlike the other speedster villains who just used their speedster powers in fighting, this mf was stabbing people with blades in his arms

[@glass4600]

He could vibrate his hands so fast his atoms pass through/pass other atoms on the atomic level. He could beat any boss by just ripping their heart out at high speed

[@darksideofevil13]

He doesn't kill.

[@hypnoxxer]

@@darksideofevil13 lmao cap

[@darksideofevil13]

@@hypnoxxer Well not traditional as far as I know. Isn't he one of the non killing heroes?

[@viperstriker4728]

@@darksideofevil13 Ok, he will rip their tendons out instead.

[@kokirij0167]

So.... basically what Reverse Flash did to Cisco?

[@b51waterclub51]

Why has no one considered how powerful the flash would be with a sword? Or even a rock?

[@freshwaterwaterfall4003]

Exactly, he wouldn't even have to worry about hurting his hands, not when he's got the 600 mph brick

[@yourmum69_420]

ok but he wouldn't need it... he's already OP as fuck with his hands

[@jocosesonata]

​@@yourmum69_420 Fuck it, he doesn't even have to punch them. Just grab them and lock them up before their brain can even begin to process what just happened. Because that's how fast he is! If he can think in attoseconds, regular brain humans can't do shit to him. None of their attacks would ever land cause they'd look like statues.

[@ragegaze3482]

bro hits a villain with a rock at light speed, might destroy the entire earth, gotta becareful lmao

[@petecoogan]

At speed he just has to touch their heads while he runs.

[@Hueco-Oscuras]

Reminds me of the video the KZbinr “Madvocate” made. It was called “The Flash is Insufferably Inconsistent”. Highly check that out, its HILARIOUS, and vividly talks about the bullshit in this show.

[@summerrose8110]

One of my favorite KZbinrs, also FriendlySpaceNinja. God bless them.

[@louisrobitaille5810]

0:13 "But I'm, fast." Comics Flash: *outruns a teleporting god from one side of the universe to the other* Netflix Flash: *saves 20 people around a crime scene but can't knock out the bad guy in the same amount of time*

[@bryanvandyke0]

Worse. Every. Single. Episode. Explosion, bad guy runs around a corner, and immediately the next scene is "welp. He got away." Even if the bad guy got in a car immediately after turning the corner, the farthest they could have gotten was a handful of yards.

[@alexanderm.635]

Netflix????

[@rexflamevermillion5527]

Comic Barry Allen : ran to the fucking end of the cosmos with ease, can solve problems in matters of seconds and learns so fast it feels like a entire course learned in per say moment Bootleg Barry Allen: can't defeat a villain in the arc

[@daenite2480]

Really hate how people still use the teleporting feat when Flash was blatantly amped far beyond his normal speed. He has 1,000 other speed feats to pick from and people keep using the one where he was juiced up

[@xEqualsRandom]

​@@alexanderm.635 I think they mean CW, the network the show is on

[@vrushalikalyankar4662]

My theory is that for all of Flash S1 and some of S2, Flash is new to this, and he possibly has to control the ON/OFF of his speed , and also he's kind enough to try to talk to the villians

[@FlorianBased]

What I always think of the flash (although I never watched it) is that he canonically must be really smart/wise since he can think about anything 100-1000 times longer than a normal human. So either he is so insanely dumb that he really needs that time or he is one of the most knowledgeable people and probably one of the smartest if he isn't seriously lacking in the creativity department. Like if I had just 100x the time for University, I could do a college course in a day with no sweat at all.

[@Andovers848]

Speed thinking isn't a real power in the show. We've seen barry use it when he get artificial speedforce. But it's the only time he actually showed this power. Otherwise, he would be far over devoe who actually present the thing 《flash is the faster to move devoe is the faster to think》

[@baldawen]

@@Andovers848 He needs to be able to think as fast as he is running though. Otherwise his power would be useless since he wouldn't be able to react fast enough. Him not having accelerated thinking is ridiculous.

[@Andovers848]

@@baldawen yes and no...i think it's like in season 5. There is an episode where we see Nora enter the flash time to think faster. I guess his mind can process things faster than us. But just quickly integrate things in your mind is different from thinking about them more intensively or deeper so i assume it doesn't have to make him smarter... 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@baldawen]

@@Andovers848 he doesn't have to be actually smart if his thought process is 1000x faster. Even an idiot can figure stuff out with enough time, which he has. Though the Flash in the show seems to be some special kind of idiot.

[@AlbinoJedi]

Thank you. I know the whole "he can run at the speed of plot" probably came from the comics too but at least for the show they are now showing something in real life and need it to be taken seriously. The game isn't fun if you don't have rules to follow. If the rules in the show were consistent with itself it would be way more interesting and story lines would have to be way more creative.

[@franklinturtleton6525]

Episode 2 - Multiple Man. The beginning of the episode shows Barry moving in super speed while Iris is completely frozen and he's talking to her which is too fast for her to hear or something. A couple minutes later Barry tracks down multiple man to the warehouse that the CW owns (since almost every villain ends up there at least once) and knocks out 2 of multiple man. Then multiple man makes 2 more and they walk up to Barry and punch him in the face. Barry, who was just shown to view someone as FROZEN because of how FAST he is gets punched in the face by a guy with human speed.

[@NoMoreBsPlease]

2:30 Nope! Savitar was established as far faster than Zoom or Reverse Flash and that WAS Barry!

[@dibsdibs3495]

Yeah but I guess you could argue that his hatred made him more passionate towards training to be faster and the suit made him faster or whatever other CW logic you’re gonna use.

[@Mimir3710]

​@dibsdibs3495 it's been a minute since I watched the show but didint they say that they are all the same speed, but the others touch the ground less, making them faster

[@jamall7003]

I saw a trailer saying Morbius was the #1 in the world and started laughing so fucking hard. Also I love how this guy portrays Cisco it's so accurate 🤣

[@AbsoluteVoltz]

I can’t believe this is the FIRST video I saw of yours and then I kept watching and kept loving the content! The algorithm can be a hero after all…

[@SuperMaDBrothers]

I love the episode where he reads through like 100 documents in 10 seconds and then he's running towards a building and they ask him how tall it is and he says "I don't know, 100 or 120 floors?"

[@khanhvuluunguyen5970]

love the fact the you’re a fan of the show since the beginning and still remember past characters & details in the earlier seasons (Linda, Malfoy, the Savitar & Iris stuff...). Also, despite the significant drop in quality ever since season 3, which was 5 years ago, the fact that most of these comments are from long time fans still come here to complain and shit on the show just warms my heart and proves its place in pop culture.

[@sonicfx5431]

“Because Quantum Mechanics” bro so accurate 😂😂😂 anything that requires explaining is explained with that

[@zokieh]

The flash can literally stop time and take bullets out from the air with no problem, but no, he cannot stop the bad guy with a gun from killing innocent people.

[@FilmFlicks3358]

Flash got that anti plot armor

[@Chronixx11]

You are literally the king of ads and implementing them into the show, nobody else gets even close

[@wellmaruprepareduknowim3272]

5:25 a year supply of vitamin D, that sounds like a proposal you would see on the hub