John Deere 9510R engine torsional damper failure. Worst engine vibration you'll ever experience!

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ZK MasterTech

ZK MasterTech

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@ericvogel1126
@ericvogel1126 11 сағат бұрын
Hats off to the people who are willing to deal with these extremely difficult repairs and do it day after day. 🤔👍
@bm4751
@bm4751 12 сағат бұрын
You guys show that machines have reached the size limit where a mechanic can just manage the repairs. Any bigger and the components would need lifts or jacks. I guess that's the challenge designers have, components that can be manhandled. Great video, thanks guys
@SteveNicoson-u1i
@SteveNicoson-u1i 5 сағат бұрын
Thanks for another interesting video ZK. Know the basic information about this torsional bar setup but is not much. From your intro sounds like not much room to work here. You indicated need a small build person to get at what needs to be replaced. Well, ready set go, let’s have it. Daniel was a super helper for you ZK. Seems to be a good worker and followed your directions to a tee. Fine young man and glad you had him to help. That is really a tough spot to work in ZK. Wow. The engineers needed to think that one through. Nice work ZK and Daniel. You got it fixed and going again for the farmer. He should be real happy so he can finish his tillage. Thanks for showing this repair work to us. Learned more by your excellent teaching skills. Thanks. The Iowa farm boy. Steve.
@deanfrancis6474
@deanfrancis6474 20 сағат бұрын
Well done, I love seeing the struggle in the field overcome by inguinuity.
@Adam_Poirier
@Adam_Poirier 15 сағат бұрын
When number five piston comes out of the side of the block it's not as rough as the damper failing 😂
@JimRobertson-fd8jl
@JimRobertson-fd8jl 12 сағат бұрын
Great video work guys, really helped us understand process and the ultimate success of swap out!
@TheVespap200e
@TheVespap200e 15 сағат бұрын
Daniel for the WIN! Nice team work fellows! Lets Goooooooo!
@lisaharvey4373
@lisaharvey4373 7 сағат бұрын
Wow that was a difficult repair access was limited for sure great video thou! It's amazing how far the electric tools have gotten I barely use any air tools at all anymore there so good.
@michaelpatrick6950
@michaelpatrick6950 19 сағат бұрын
I found your channel a couple of weeks ago, saw the Sloan name and thought "that must be central IL". I worked 20 years in Decatur in various engineering and management roles at Staley/Tate&Lyle/Premient. We spent a lot of time in the Arthur/Arcola/Sullivan area and still have an 8000 lb roll top desk made by F&B. Growing up in central IN I made a lot of corn field repairs on tractors with red paint. That and putting up hay in 90F/50% RH cemented going to engineering school. The first time I discovered the value of dowel pins (doll pins in Hoosierese) was repairing the PTO on an IH 450 about 60 years ago.
@kevingilbert9695
@kevingilbert9695 8 сағат бұрын
I wish I had that much talent and patience as these guys. 👍
@grizzlyridgerunner
@grizzlyridgerunner 4 сағат бұрын
Wow, the truck crane the cut-off wheel battle wounds .great job keeping it kid friendly lol awesome job guys thanks ZK MASTER TECH 🇺🇸💪✌️
@stephenmeeks684
@stephenmeeks684 14 сағат бұрын
You’re like gen z’ers doing truck work. You’re so precious. “I can bench 300#, but “
@dblag9540
@dblag9540 15 сағат бұрын
Enjoy your videos. My dad used to be a mechanic on MM, Oliver, and White. So I've seen the work that goes into repair on farm equipment.
@Richard-o9y2r
@Richard-o9y2r 19 сағат бұрын
Love this video got my mechanic learning in and my morning weight training video all in one thank you another great video
@2011Harvesttime
@2011Harvesttime 17 сағат бұрын
Excellent videography and technical description of the rubber ( heat, torque load & shock absorption components) element driveline parts.
@BD-qq4fn
@BD-qq4fn 15 сағат бұрын
Saw Warren do this repair on his channel (Western Truck and Tractor Repair)…..crazy JD would have a fail point like this. Great post!
@Dave_9547
@Dave_9547 13 сағат бұрын
I knew that this seemed familiar and you reminded me Warren did it a few weeks back.
@HeavyMachinery2207
@HeavyMachinery2207 6 сағат бұрын
This is such an interesting and informative video! You explained the issue of engine vibrations and its consequences very clearly. Thank you for sharing practical knowledge about the John Deere 9510R!
@jmazoso
@jmazoso 12 сағат бұрын
I’ve got a 3/8 stubby M18. That things got balls.
@pauldeblok72
@pauldeblok72 15 сағат бұрын
In the early 90’s a similar type a coupling was used in the 6000 series, within a couple of months there was a new type of coupler between engine an transmission, one by one they chewed up the rubber..
@mowsgrass7747
@mowsgrass7747 19 сағат бұрын
Makes a big difference to have the impact in reverse when you are removing bolts lol
@trebornoslo1951
@trebornoslo1951 15 сағат бұрын
The engineers of these machines nowdays should be FORCED to go work on them out in the "field" in all kinds of conditions. Maybe then they would design something that would be one helluva lot better to work on.
@jetegtmeier71
@jetegtmeier71 14 сағат бұрын
whenever I've turned a wrench on a project that was ANY kind of major there has almost always been blood shed of some kind, it's called Gettin It Done. 😁
@user-pq9ji7kt4l
@user-pq9ji7kt4l 19 сағат бұрын
The physical component of being a mechanic like this gets overlooked Got be Hulk Hogan to wrestle those big parts around.
@TheRandallraplee
@TheRandallraplee 16 сағат бұрын
Good video and fun to watch. !
@ZKMasterTech
@ZKMasterTech 16 сағат бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@westernstar4964
@westernstar4964 20 сағат бұрын
Am I the only person that is is alarmed at the major components that fail at low hours normally?
@mungogerryjnr
@mungogerryjnr 20 сағат бұрын
No!
@kevingilbert9695
@kevingilbert9695 19 сағат бұрын
These new tractors will never make 10k hours .
@rongrose3746
@rongrose3746 19 сағат бұрын
Cheaper material and higher prices = Greed
@jeffhatmaker817
@jeffhatmaker817 19 сағат бұрын
No, your not. I would be majorly pissed if this damper failed every 2,000-3,000 hours. JD can't even make the excuse that it's an environmental issues (it's a sealed unit). Same with the fan drives and bearings failing everywhere. I wish Zeth would reveal the cost of parts and labor for these jobs. I'm sure it's astronomical.
@dsmreloader7552
@dsmreloader7552 18 сағат бұрын
Remember, you are only seeing the failures, not the hundreds of thousands of pieces of equipment out there with very low failure rates. Doesn't matter what color you are talking about either.
@davidkimmel5153
@davidkimmel5153 8 сағат бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@Pete68T
@Pete68T 9 сағат бұрын
Good job,Nice Turbos on that,Shame the setup does not last ?
@thomashewittv8
@thomashewittv8 8 сағат бұрын
Perfect lunch time video, thanks heaps , wish they made shit last longer, bad design in my eyes
@Big.Ron1
@Big.Ron1 14 сағат бұрын
Every 2-3k hours? Has JD come up with a fix or is this planned obsolescence? Have to buy a whole shaft if it needs one or not? I hope the after market has a fix if JD doesn't. Another reason not to buy new generation of any manufacture. Atleast the old Iron was built to last and to be repaired. Having great mechanics like Mr. ZK and crew is a very big plus. If mine breaks where I can't fix it I hope to have a clone of these two helping me out. Thank you and be safe.
@williamorman4779
@williamorman4779 15 сағат бұрын
Zeth,how you coming on your 955
@philliplopez8745
@philliplopez8745 4 сағат бұрын
Need to keep some " victory pies " in the glove box .
@gregorythomas333
@gregorythomas333 12 сағат бұрын
When the torsional damper says "F you...I'm out!" for the second time in a couple week you know it's getting bad! I figured that shaft would be better than 80 pounds...wow...it's NINETY!
@ZKMasterTech
@ZKMasterTech 8 сағат бұрын
That was the first damper failure of that tractor. Listen to my words carefully as I said it was the second one I had to do in two weeks.
@gregorythomas333
@gregorythomas333 8 сағат бұрын
@@ZKMasterTech I know...that's what I was commenting about...that this was the 2nd one in 2 weeks
@bladewiper
@bladewiper 15 сағат бұрын
Sounds like a consumable, that needs to be replaced at 2000 hrs. That way you don't also loose the drive shaft.
@davidraaf3865
@davidraaf3865 10 сағат бұрын
So, what is the John Deere special tool number for the Daniel tool?
@Todd-w6u
@Todd-w6u 13 сағат бұрын
Green Strikes again !
@johnbucklerfarms
@johnbucklerfarms 12 сағат бұрын
Great Video!
@KALI1080
@KALI1080 17 сағат бұрын
Seth is there a DTAC about aligning the engine mounts with shims for the torsional dampers? I seem to recall reading something about that.
@ZKMasterTech
@ZKMasterTech 16 сағат бұрын
There is.
@hvapt
@hvapt 10 сағат бұрын
This is the actual and most important part to resolve and prevent this from happening premature. The pulsation and torque transmitted across the flange and shaft is tremendous. Smallest misalignment will wear out any material or designsolution regardless of brand, size or hours.
@hvapt
@hvapt 10 сағат бұрын
Worked on much smaller machines and other type of application but same design with transmission of power from engine to hydraulic main pump. We implemented special guage to meassure and secure alignment in the factory as slightest miss alignment and tolerance differences would create this type of premature failures in field. Very difficult to do alignment in field thou...
@corporateoffroader
@corporateoffroader 8 сағат бұрын
What about putting a couple tack welds on that cap?
@verlinswarey507
@verlinswarey507 20 сағат бұрын
How are you doing?! Great!
@gregforster5913
@gregforster5913 18 сағат бұрын
Greg from northern Michigan. How many hours on this tractor engine at the time of this repair ?
@gregforster5913
@gregforster5913 18 сағат бұрын
Sorry 2701 hours at the end of this video.
@jong5800
@jong5800 6 сағат бұрын
Maybe it’s just me but I probably would have used that old shaft. Could that end cap make that much difference?
@MelsBioagtive
@MelsBioagtive 4 сағат бұрын
I believe their is a core charger where if you send back the component they will reimbursement the core charge and refurbish the used component
@ianmckay1780
@ianmckay1780 17 сағат бұрын
That is one job I'm glad I'm too old to have to try! Why is it, that components don't last as long as they used to? Could it be that they make them to a price (ie cheap as possible), and blow the consequences? As long is the warranty has expired, they don't care!
@ko9446
@ko9446 5 сағат бұрын
Freeze plug for the shaft
@wildedog3967
@wildedog3967 18 сағат бұрын
Good job as always fellas . Looks to me that you could use a pet orangutan for jobs like that .
@louisstaes
@louisstaes 15 сағат бұрын
how many hours have this tractor?
@charlietanner6211
@charlietanner6211 11 сағат бұрын
i think jd has made some mistakes this isa big one been seeing a lot of these deere better wake up running to mex i not the answer love you,re vid,s
@bobearl7859
@bobearl7859 8 сағат бұрын
I bet if you go to an auto parts store with that old cap you can get a brand new one.
@tallboy49
@tallboy49 11 сағат бұрын
Does Daniel have a tool part number
@fryklundstfr
@fryklundstfr 2 сағат бұрын
Construction error from Deere, they put the wrong damper in, it should be a damper designed for this high power, high torque application. When you showed the broken part everyone can see exactly why it failed.
@popswrench2
@popswrench2 9 сағат бұрын
😅i'm sure it "heavy" but 2 of us , 500lbs of men-power to put driveshaft in an old komatsu wa600-1 loader (23liters of engine 😊)
@carlcolberg8346
@carlcolberg8346 4 сағат бұрын
Good ol‘ JD cutting corners to screw a farmer mid-field. Should have splined the inner/rubber/outer for a little stronger bond. Or just designed a proper Cush drive for longevity. But no, let’s go cheap.
@Chris-r3r
@Chris-r3r 12 сағат бұрын
At least it is not the series that you have to remove the hydraulic tank
@ckscottckscott4128
@ckscottckscott4128 18 сағат бұрын
The design engineer 's need to start to come out to the fields. I don't have any faith in the work. It could be the down fall of JD
@KALI1080
@KALI1080 17 сағат бұрын
They do use a different style coupler now on the new tractors. It’s the same as what the red tractors use now. Even the red tractors had a run of bad torsional dampers too.
@vrsechs9581
@vrsechs9581 Сағат бұрын
Shaft: 3739,79€ Damper: 3781,72€
@ms-mac521
@ms-mac521 15 сағат бұрын
👍👍👍
@timbingham-k4x
@timbingham-k4x 18 сағат бұрын
The front balancer is going bad causing the dampner damage
@I_Am_Your_Problem
@I_Am_Your_Problem 11 сағат бұрын
@timbingham-k4x You're moist... probably a trump voter too...
@user-pq9ji7kt4l
@user-pq9ji7kt4l 19 сағат бұрын
Curious what a repair like that would cost…..
@CorpusChristiHouston
@CorpusChristiHouston 17 сағат бұрын
That’s bs that you have to buy the whole driveshaft because you can’t get the dust cap
@Puckgrinder85
@Puckgrinder85 12 сағат бұрын
Clean the splines up a slam a freeze plug in there. Hate to know what the cost of the shaft is.
@I_Am_Your_Problem
@I_Am_Your_Problem 11 сағат бұрын
@@Puckgrinder85 Freeze plug?
@caliman823
@caliman823 8 сағат бұрын
​@@Puckgrinder85 about 2k if I remember right. That was about 2 months ago.
@WilliamVincik
@WilliamVincik 20 сағат бұрын
high tech equipment,, still comes down to hard manual labor!
@karljacobson1575
@karljacobson1575 18 сағат бұрын
A 5$ plug that would fix the problem, but no sell a new drive shaft. Jd just a parts replacer! I’m getting tired of getting screwed by that! Same at my dealer. Ridiculous imo!!!!
@daftDAFdriver
@daftDAFdriver 5 сағат бұрын
Poor quality machines 😮
@stephenmeeks684
@stephenmeeks684 14 сағат бұрын
You said you wanted to work on large equipment.
@SHADOW.GGG-
@SHADOW.GGG- 20 сағат бұрын
the strap was hindering you by creating an angle
@rogergreeson7968
@rogergreeson7968 15 сағат бұрын
Never saw a torque wrench.
@skidudeify
@skidudeify 11 сағат бұрын
I rented a 570 rx and the damper exploded after 10 ac of working ground. 2600hrs! Pathetic. Absolute junk
@stephenmeeks684
@stephenmeeks684 14 сағат бұрын
Great engineering. Make things easy to work on, NOT!
@owenscanlan7096
@owenscanlan7096 7 сағат бұрын
Parts are made cheap and unfortunately the end user ends up costing them thousands it’s not right at all
@YossiaNorth
@YossiaNorth Сағат бұрын
Sorry. You got what you paid for.
@rjm7168
@rjm7168 17 сағат бұрын
That's not 90 lbs. More like 50.
@cz_ww2117
@cz_ww2117 6 сағат бұрын
2,000 hours and these puke, not a lot of time. The repair costs how much?
@DouglasMix-o7h
@DouglasMix-o7h 11 сағат бұрын
Recall those for the issue. Why should farmers eat it.
@Machines85
@Machines85 21 сағат бұрын
Do you feel Repair this machine difficult?
@scotthenderson6356
@scotthenderson6356 4 минут бұрын
Can’t believe you only expect these components to last under 3000 hrs? Green Iron crap
@Chris-r3r
@Chris-r3r 13 сағат бұрын
Those suck
@sheevson7458
@sheevson7458 20 сағат бұрын
Nothing breaks like a Deere.
@BentRosing
@BentRosing 18 сағат бұрын
🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🤩🤩🤩🥇🥇🥇👍👍
@tacydit
@tacydit 19 сағат бұрын
John Deere is really putting out junk anymore.
@stephenmeeks684
@stephenmeeks684 14 сағат бұрын
Men,…lol.
@fredf3391
@fredf3391 14 сағат бұрын
In my days as old school mechanic this would be a Comeback and parts changer .What is stupid about this video you're cutting up and laughing also I have arthritis cuts bruises from them good old days
@bruceruhl2879
@bruceruhl2879 7 сағат бұрын
Great video!!!
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