ZT 0777 vs Microtech Matrix | Birth of ZT 0770 & Kershaw Natrix

Typically we don't concern ourselves with knife company controversies and intellectual property battles... However this particular story surrounding Zero Tolerance's 0777 and Microtech's Matrix, is the reason for the creation of some of KAI limited's best creations: the ZT 0770 and the Kershaw Natrix.
*** A HUGE thank you to Acuminous Edge for providing the Microtech Matrix and the two ZT’s featured in the video. Also a bite thank you for giving us this awesome video idea! Give him a follow on IG if you want to see the best microtech collection out there!! - acuminous_edge?...
If you would like to read the sources where we obtained some of our information here is a link containing official statements from Microtech regarding ZT:
sofrep.com/gear/microtech-res...
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[@NeevesKnives]

Read before commenting: We love both Zero Tolerance and Microtech. This is just the story we read that actual official statements included. Please do not take any comments we've made about the companies too seriously. We tend to get a bit humorous, but we have no hate what so ever 🤘 CHECK OUT OUR AFFILIATE LINKS IN THE DESCRIPTION, WE HAVE SELECTED A BUNCH OF EDC ITEMS WE LOVE FOR YOU ALL TO CHECK OUT! THANK YOU for watching ❤

[@marekmasar5216]

ZT is the worst knife manufacturer ever!!! Let me tell you what I mean... They are amazing fidget knives ,no doubt about that but only until you actually going to use it as a tool.. The steel performance is horrible ,all austenite is retained during really amateurish heat treatment and the other thing is the radius on the tang of the knife that causes the knife to fail lock and that's across the board with all models and one of those knives cause me really bad injury when the lock failed on me so those 2 issues are enough to keep this shit knives out of my pocket.. Plus the ridiculous moto "build like a tank" with all the videos proving opposite is just horrible.. ZT as a brand will hopefully bankrupt cause they are cheating customers with their marketing hype but when it comes down to it, the ZT 20cv/m390/204p is humiliated by Ruikes 14c28n.. I don't want to spoil your satisfaction but you should accept the ZT knives for what they are... LAUGHABLE CRAPS MADE TO LOOK GOOD BIT PERFORM UNDER THE LEVEL OF 30$ COMPETITION KNIVES!!!!!!!🎄 Marry Christmas anyway to you!!!

[@NeevesKnives]

@@marekmasar5216 Merry Christmas to you to Marek and sorry to hear about your injury that really sucks thank you for the well thought out comment also.

[@TripleEEDC]

Metal complex will henceforth be known as “Mr. Big Time MC”

[@NeevesKnives]

🤣🤣🤣yessss I love it

[@TripleEEDC]

Bang! 1,000 subs! A huge congratulations to you both! Great video!

[@NeevesKnives]

Thanks!!!!!

[@robertm8401]

Happy 1K Subs Kneeves Knives! Very interesting topic you have here. I like knives from both companies.

[@NeevesKnives]

We love both of the companies knives, this was just the story they both make great knives and thank you the gaw will be announced soon 👍

[@rickkerans8485]

Congrats on 1K subs. You deserve it so much. Your channel is great and very fun to watch. I didn't realize the extent that the 2 companies went at each other. It was very interesting to hear about it and I will go read it. Thanks for all the info and clearing up some points. Thanks for showing all the variations of the knife. Great video on a hard topic.

[@NeevesKnives]

Thanks Rick, we wound up reading later that Microtech wound up suing them about the Natrix, and somehow patched things up a little, we dont know how much but atleast with that lawsuit. We are so excited for the future of the channel and we are gonna be doing a gaw very soon, thank you for always watching our videos

[@jeffsmith6441]

You guys are awesome! Congratulations on hitting 1,000 finally! You guys deserve more subs!

[@rustyknifelover4463]

I am so happy you're over 1000 subscribers.

[@NeevesKnives]

So are we! We are very grateful for everyone, and gonna do a huge gaw very very soon, thank you so much Rusty

[@kevinclifton6106]

Great content! I didn’t know about the difference in the two stories. Glad to have seen this video!

[@NeevesKnives]

Thanks Kevin!

[@patrickvanovermeeren4513]

Great videos guys ! Thanks for sharing ! Congrats on tha subs !!

[@NeevesKnives]

Wooooohooooo!!! Gaw very soon! thanks bud for always being in the comments and always watching our vids

[@BigRedEDC]

Great videos guys! Thanks for sharing!!

[@WCKWomenCarryKnives]

Great video and congrats on 1000!!!

[@brandony2221]

Thanks for dropping the knowledge. Never knew about these knife maker beefs.

[@NeevesKnives]

Yeah we didn't either until we got these but its interesting how the Natrix came about

[@arthurfranco9191]

I happen to like both ZT and Microtech, this was an interesting story. Thank You for airing it.

[@NeevesKnives]

We most definitely love both companies both make amazing knives

[@Paul.1088]

Fantastic video you guys. I've always loved the look of the ZT 0777, but now I've seen the Microtech I think that I much prefer that one. Still freekin lovin your energy guys. Keep it up 👊🤓

[@NeevesKnives]

Thanks Paul !

[@randyf.9188]

Congratulations on 1000!

[@NeevesKnives]

Thank you!!!

[@dark_gravity_edc]

Round butts are definitely better than flat butts. Thanks for the entertaining and educational video to listen to in my way to work. Congrats on hitting 1000+ and Merry Christmas!

[@NeevesKnives]

Hell yeah they are 😛 merry Xmas!

[@jessruss40]

Fun to watch as usual! Great job!

[@slayer7682]

I'm coming to this video and remembering this issue. Microtech is bringing back the Matrix, just saw the Microtech video on KZbin a few minutes ago. I'm a ZT fan and own the 0777M390 VERSION but the new Matrix looks cool.

[@earlyx1225]

Very entertaining! I remember laughing when Kershaw named their knife “ The Natrix “ . It took months to become available and all the while everyone knew that they were referring to Microtech being a snake in the grass. A natrix is a grass snake lol. You know it’s not a proper battle without some name calling! lol 👍 God bless

[@NeevesKnives]

I did not know that im hlad you said that i must have missed that, wow makes sense now

[@jerseyknifeguy6382]

Wow great video guys!!!!! I love both knives but the Microtech wins out for me......... the detent on how loose the Kershaw is would make me nuts......... super thoro review!!!!!! Thanks guys Merry Christmas 🎁🎄

[@NeevesKnives]

Thanks mr Jersey!!!!!!!! Merry Xmas

[@rhino5419]

Hello. First huge congrats on 1k. Controversy or not i think they all look great. Lol. Nice vid guys. All the best.

[@NeevesKnives]

They both make incredible knives, we are only so lucky to get any knife from either company, I wish I would have said that in the video

[@chrisgonzales1615]

Very interesting story. Thanks for the video I really enjoyed it.

[@truckchuck5601]

I don’t have lots of knives yet. But I have a bareknuckle and copper natrix so this video was great. Excited to see more videos from you guys.

[@NeevesKnives]

Both of those knives are incredible and definitely some of my favorite edc blades, that blade shape is just so useful for edc, and were gonna be doing a gaw very soon for our 1k so get in it you just might win there's gonna be a bunch of prizes

[@truckchuck5601]

Neeves Knives 10-4. I’ll be keeping an eye out for how to enter. Thanks

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

They are both very cool, I think I’d prefer the ZT only because it’s smaller of the two. I don’t like huge knifes and like you said the bareknuckle is the perfect size for most people.

[@nitsuanomrah6997]

Which one is the best and most affordable

[@mannyz5307]

Great vid. Congrats.

[@tormentedslayer7498]

That was soo funny when she flicked the Microtech open but didn’t lock you grabbed the blade an made it lock. An her giggle... okay imma say not a guy thing but that was cute! Lol you two are perfect for each other! One day I’ll find my gal...

[@bigboreknifegear8349]

Great video guys. Congrats on the 1k+ subs. I just got the copper Natrix. I was a little surprised at how small it was. They look much larger in pictures.

[@jonduncansakurawallknifegarden]

Big Bore Knife & Gear me too! When I saw and it and even checked the specs I was like ... is there natrix mini that I just got ? It’s small , but fits four fingers for me so I kept and I actually really really like it... just wish it came sharper from factory and I don’t like sharpening D2 much. Got a badass patina on it now.

[@NeevesKnives]

I can’t imagine how small the mini is then!

[@johnwest4492]

H8 Neeves, JRod and Kara I hope I spelled your names correctly: )) First off Happy Holidays to you and yours and secondly I picked up to two-run to flipper I saw on your channel and then l lent to Metal-Complex I wanted to saw that it's Awesome and thank you for your review. I'm still figuring our how not to put my fingers on the framlock lolbut I'll get it. Just wanted to say thank you and keep up the great content.

[@NeevesKnives]

Thats really Awsome! It will break in nicely the new Twosun knives are far better if you ever get a chance to try the ones in the higher 100s or 200s dont hesitate

[@marcmartens4831]

Interesting story guys, enjoyed the vid. Would like the Natrix in 14c28n, would have one if it was a little cheaper where I saw it anyway. Cheers, thumbs up here Congrats on 1000. Bang!! Know what your saying with the detention there Kara, gets to that level and pop, out it goes. Think that's it anyways

[@NeevesKnives]

Man that would of been so Awsome if they did the Natrix in 14c28nsteel

[@Spacecadet3890]

Here now haven't seen it, zt is good at American made clones very good, its becoming more common place now(protech, ferrum forge, sng, emmerson protech makes auto versions though under license) zt makes allot of mass produced hinderers sinkovich and others.

[@garyjacobs2789]

Nice job. Very interesting example of a Chicago screw. I been wrong all these years 😉

[@NeevesKnives]

Glad i could help out 😆

[@HollywoodTacticool]

interesting story, and astute reviews. you can hear Kara come in repeatedly to make more nuanced points and to make corrections. "better half" indeed. thanks for the entertaining review and story

[@NeevesKnives]

Definitely the better half 😆

[@Eldofarmboy]

🤘😈🤘

[@dodgedart4sho]

Owned them both, 3 of the ZT versions. The microtech was better all around, I just hated the claw logo lol. Also microtechs 30k carbon fiber is hard to beat. Congrats on the subs!

[@NeevesKnives]

Thank god someone else besides me doesn’t like that logo!!! Lol

[@tallica4life81]

Why don’t they do a Natrix exclusive with 20cv or M390 Like they do in other Kershaws?

[@NeevesKnives]

Idk, they made a mini one in red g10 but its only 8cr they should have done one better than d2 for sure

[@jonduncansakurawallknifegarden]

Something I found on the natrix copper, is that I can actually kick it out with a flick. I think jarred can too- if you get a nail right under the edge of the fuller groove, it will kick out. And it’s easier to do towards the tip, as the force required, is much less than trying to kick it out near the pivot. Just a tip! I open mine like that over the tiny tab that can feel biting sometimes. Love the knife and it literally rides around with me in a case leather on my belt as an aux blade constantly (for when my friend needs to use a knife and wants to make the cut on their own ... no you’re not borrowing my custom pocket knife even though I carry it and use it ... I trust my friends.... I juts don’t trust them with my knives). Love my natrix. Been meaning to add this comment since it came out, and I felt like it might rekindle a fire with the knife. I don’t get tired of knives and the appeal doesn’t go away, it only gets bigger, like with a personal relationship. I grow my memories and my times with a knife and I like them more and more each time I use them. I hope that the same can be said for the natrix for anyone who didn’t know about the spydie flick 🤷🏻‍♂️.

[@NeevesKnives]

I know i didnt know that or learn that I could do that until just recently. It definitely adds to the cool factor for sure and like you said its even easy than the other deployment. Im surprised i haven't seen more people doing or showing it.

[@jonduncansakurawallknifegarden]

When you guys showed it, and said that you couldn’t, I assumed it was because my hands are on the small/medium side, but I keep my nails so short for playing guitar, that I figured anyone else that doesn’t cut their nails every two days must have a better chance at this ! It’s so buttery smooth - that fuller looks so darn good on that almost “kiritsuke” kitchen knife profile, but it’s even better when it serves two purposes. It’s such a well built knife too. I have very few kershaws that I don’t just check out and gift- that one is a keeper and now I want the XL and the large tbh. You guys rock. I talk about knives with all of my other hobby friends, and very few won’t let me even see the word “knife” without telling me shut up. I need to start a Chanel. I send recordings to Chris Gonzales and big Jeff Goodenow every single day about knife stuff and they’re both a lot like us. We need out on this stuff. My friend told me that you wouldn’t care much - I told him he had to be a knife nerd to know how important it is, and that others need to know 😂😂🤷🏻‍♂️ you guys get me lol.

[@drpoppyseed]

If you flipped the clip on the microtec, wouldn’t it curve the wrong way?

[@NeevesKnives]

Probably

[@theknifewhisperer5667]

I agree with Kara. Ive had both in hand. The Microtech is built better in my opinion. Great video guys!

[@theknifewhisperer5667]

And agree with Jared.

[@NeevesKnives]

Thanks Joe! Definitely agree and both companies are great and both make incredible knives we love that we are able to do videos with knives like these

[@kevinAuman1]

If you like that blade shape then you know who really does it best and kinda was the first to design that shape? Ken Onion, the way he does it there is an ever so slight recurve just at the tip of the blade and man do they capture and cut material like no other...

[@NeevesKnives]

That is so true and now that you say that i do remember Ken Onion doing this blade shape years ago even some what on some knives still today kind of like the leek maybe not as pronounced but still. And its an amazing blade shape for edc and its easy to sharpen atleast i think so but its great at most edc tasks

[@wanderingmagoo9028]

Great video about some knife history. And now I know what a Chicago Screw is... Thanks to your demonstration .... bang! lol 👉 👌 :P Have a good one.

[@NeevesKnives]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Spacecadet3890]

Zt kershaw is really good at usa made clones especially midtech to upper range knives, hinderer, sinkovich and tons of others, yes now they license the design but this could have made them allot of money on both sides If they had worked together marfione or kershaw could have done the same thing hinderer has done mass produce a very good licenced american made clone. This reminds me allot of the cryo, 652, xm-18, same exact structure natrix, 700 series, matrix.

[@johnwest4492]

Oh ya it's the Two-Sun with the CF over leigh with Titanium frame l Iol

[@The4cp]

Maybe I'm weird but 3 3/4 feels normal size to me.

[@snakeinthegrass4726]

👍🏼 I'm interested 2 years late

[@NeevesKnives]

👊

[@angelosedge]

nice video

[@NeevesKnives]

Thanks Angelo 👍

[@angelosedge]

@@NeevesKnives you have some great insight on knife sharpening. I am always listening to your videos for that nugget of info I did not have before.

[@NeevesKnives]

@@angelosedge that is awesome! Im actually posting a video right now about checking your edges, its kinda long but all great info, also we are doing a lives at 715 tonight central time if you have time

[@kevinAuman1]

Bro you have mentioned kershaw knives a couple times recently pointing out their "good ones" and you must have forgot about the knockout which is a sub frame lock also lol I have a black Sandvik one and a blue m390 and the m390 one is soooo damn thin and slicey I love it... Also the link is a great knife in m390 or 20cv anytime you can buy a very premium blade folder for under $100 ya better damn well do it and it could turn out to be a great knife... Can't say I have owned the non-premium versions of any the others they offer in good steels

[@NeevesKnives]

I do have a knockout and love the knockout Ive hard used one until its now on its last leg and its been in many videos the knockout is a great knife

[@kickstothehead3705]

I understand now he got jealous that Tony’s had more girth 😂

[@EverydayCityCarry]

Firstly, I am slow clapping hard right now. Bravo. The improvements to the channel are drastic. The quality. The small edits. Even the back and forth banter has improved. Second, this topic is a mystery I've only heard about. Your explanation of the story is the most entertaining I have come across. My favorite part was certainly the "their official statement was HAHA" line. Third, Neeves Knives is welcome on my podcast anytime. Just let me know when you guys are available. DM me on Instagram or on [e-mail] and let's make it happen. Props on the video. I loved it.

[@NeevesKnives]

Most definitely, i think it would make a great cast.. If thats what you call it, lets do this also thank you we love comments like this

[@EverydayCityCarry]

@@NeevesKnives I've always believed in you guys. Let's do something in January. After all the holiday craziness.

[@wanderingmagoo9028]

First! Cool :)

[@NeevesKnives]

CONGRATS 😂🤘🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@Bear-nu8xm]

I like the Microtech the best based on looks

[@Shakermt]

#bant6torx #banfrn

[@lionknives3]

I hear you!

[@NeevesKnives]

😂

[@comcamera91]

Natrix = A snake in the grass.

[@carbonitegamorrean8368]

Very interesting, I'm a mushroom so anything is news to me except Tony out classing someone, If anyone has been around this industry for any time you would have saw it coming. Tony is a stand up no BS dude fo-sho. I hope you guys are well, don't see much lately, I truly hope everything is okay. Love you two. xoxox

[@NeevesKnives]

Everythings great were back in action now !!!

[@jon6969]

As far as Anthony marfione goes, the whole “challenge” bullshit goes out the window the second he started selling the matrix for profit . Screw him. He seams like a weasel IMO. Kershaw did us all a favor by removing another microtech from our news feed . I bet Anthony got out his shine box and shined one of those matrix’s up and stamped his silly high end logo on it and added 800$ to the price tag.

[@dallasscism910]

Bro, I get mad about prices 2,,, but when ur paying ur employees what he does and health benefits, and qauter million $ cnc machines, to try to take care of yourself, your family, your employees, cost of business/overhead, and always trying to give people what they r asking u for,,,,, then maybe u could talk like that... Let's be real Anthony Marfione could simply make customs only , by himself, sell them for thousands, and be set, only serving himself,,,,, but no, he is actually trying to make it good for everyone he can.... Tell me , u don't already know all this? BTW, I can't afford microtech, wish I could. Anyway, I agree about stuff being over priced, but man that's everywhere, Microtec has to pay high prices just as we do, plus all the government makes employers pay for and do just to be a business, that y alot of people move thier companies to china..China... Like 90% of all medications are from China, cause our government makes it to costly to make alot of everything.... Bet , u already know all this.. Bet u over pay for alot of name brands , in some way or another in life,,, food, drink, jewelry, cars, where u live???? Anyway my point is, u hate on someone that actually provides what people ask him for, they gladly pay it, and he helps people by being a employer....... Are u aware of all the services microtech provides, free of charge after purchase? Have u seen thier torture tests? Coldsteel is only one shows thier tests, but thier not playing with same quality and level of materials and craftsmanship

[@maninblack6606]

I can't stand the proprietary screws and pivot microtech uses on there knifes

[@jackeddemon]

Are you guys drunk? Wtf