Best Mid Lane Tips Grubby Got From A Pro Player

In this video we look at a coaching session between professional mid player Stormstormer and Grubby. The coaching session focuses on a lot of early game tips and lane mechanics including how to properly win the lane, the strategy behind not warding mid, and how to prioritize stacking and jungling instead of laning.
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[@davi.abrantes]

I have seen Grubby's video entirely and I love how you made it into an even better explanation. Great channel, keep up!

[@kjyu]

I really like these abstracts, i already watch the source material and these are a nice refresher!

[@LucklessLex]

BRuh i almost spat my coffee out twice while watching this, the edits caught me off guard xD

[@antoniohu5974]

wild 10 years playing dota no one ever talked about this

[@DonaldGaron]

Good simple advice. Now people gotta learn when to make these decisions. A good example is if you can't lane at all vs a hero but you are good at clearing waves, you can either clear the wave and stack as much as possible or clear the wave to leave to gank if it's more adantageous for your team than stacking. Of course, you usually don't leave the lane if the enemy mid laner can take the mid tower quickly. Losing the mid t1 is really bad.

[@triangleguy7883]

Another Eyegasm video Adrian, thanks❤

[@Aeeloran]

Damn i knew it was something that could be looked over, i started playing dota with my friend some time ago and i saw always that in pubs mid laners always buy the wards, but i didnt want to do that when playing with my friends, so i started going mid without wards, and taking one for when runes spawn, i realized that they had trouble pulling so i had a strategy around it, when they go for the pull i actually try to go kinda all in, make em use all the consumables and make em use the gold they earn to refill em making them farther behind on that regard. sometimes backfires but most of time doesnt

[@fennec-eq4ch]

Thank you i really needed that

[@penyamuntarbus6761]

Creep agro nowadays is so bad, you don't even need to see the hero to pull the creep agro. You can just use the attack command on the picture of the enemy hero on the score board(picture of hero on the top next to time and kill number) to pull agro. Even if the other hero that you click is on the side lanes it will still work. 😅😅😅😅. Correct me if im wrong.

[@banbanssss]

Its not bad, only a few know this trick. Or most likely used in higher mmrs

[@alexwhiteman2628]

You’re not wrong but you still have to have vision of them, and the creeps have to have vision of you. It works the same way, but you can do it without seeing the enemy mid laner. I do it when I need to but mostly don’t need to.

[@quaweds]

Once I saw that stormstormers headphones constantly flash on and off, I couldnt unsee it... wtf are his headphones doing hah

[@artios2149]

are you datohleong?

[@AllanSchroth]

Amazing video

[@wasifashroff4161]

thanks for this video

[@BricklayerDreDOTA]

this agro thing with ward tip really doesn't matter since u can just pull agro on enemy hero on the map by clicking their portrait

[@kevinkelly4231]

I think you misunderstood the point of not warding. If you dont have vision of enemy (from not placing your own ward) they can't aggro if you stand in the river because your creeps dont see them.

[@pragyasingh001]

@@kevinkelly4231 ya lot of people are not understanding this point. I guess 2k noobs .. wcyd

[@twentyfouravage6052]

This guy has good brain

[@Stinger32]

that's why he always loses mid good point! stormer

[@Sushichese]

SUPPORT

[@icata12345]

grubby biggest mistake was not getting lvl 2 crypt swarm

[@alexwhiteman2628]

U dumb

[@monkeydog8681]

Mid is a completely different lane. Used to mid now I am a carry. I was forced to mid again last week. I fuckin sucked. Damn I was a good mid laner back then too.

[@jeevieseverino3949]

This might be unrelated to the video but if your midlaner builds midas first item, ur kinda fucked.

[@oscarcharland9414]

comement

[@drallersouldust3054]

btw League of Legends players can't comprehend it

[@skrieni]

Stormstormer is not even close to tier 1 pro. He's probably the worst mid player atm and i haven't seen him stood up to anyone else. Just a high mmr pub player nothing more.

[@sp1n1n68]

Yea, but he played at TI and many high mmr pub players didnt

[@ineptadept3251]

Okay bro, now drop your dotabuff ID and lets see how you play mid lane.

[@Hemskelol]

it doesn't matter, these tips would be pretty much the same from a 5-6-7-8-9k player, he's a pro so you know the advice is legit basically, it's not complicated stuff.

[@Vandy--]

@@Hemskelol Agreed, these type of people who complaining why having Stormstormer to stream is actually 10 IQ. I enjoyed the stream coach session so far, this kind of session coach I have been implementing from any midlaners top 20 until top tier 1 really helps me in my gameplay.

[@The01Arsenal]

Knob alert

[@peterdango4513]

lol stormtormer giving tips and hints and his the shitiest midlaner ever like a tier 2 plays

[@Hemskelol]

clown

[@Hemskelol]

these are basic tips that pretty much all mid laners know and do in one way or another

[@Vandy--]

Take any positive knowledge from someone really helps me grow my mechanic gameplay and that really works out. Yes, he's not the best midlaner but any value that he shared can be good to take a note. Me sometimes I look out to any midlaners without looking at their current rate in pro scene, so in that way I can combine the tips and info from them from top 15 midlaners to top tier 1 midlaner like Nisha. It's good to have him as a coach since he's the one who available and having him sharing knowledge tip to us is priceless

[@karlreacts22]

"Can you make stormstormer camera smaller?" that chat 😂

[@123obvious]

Фишка про вард, чтобы враг не переагрил, гениальна. Спасибо, Штормштормер

[@AndersJytzler]

thx 4 video - there is something wrong with audio volumes

[@raulmontero8736]

I got to say.. I was rofl 1 min 😂😂 at the begging with the same Grubby face. Then, as a mid player I shocked with the warding aggro puling facts. I never have thought on that enemy way before. So it's really rewarding do not to in that specific (mostly against melee enemies) matchups. Great vid

[@Talk3rs]

Me playing medusa mid few years back, shoving the lane into enemy as soon as I can (lvl 4-5) and running to triangle every single minute to create 4-5 stack of ancients and big camp for myself and as soon as I get my first item which helps me farm it (MoM/Maelstrom) and giving one of my suports lvl 6 as I tell them to come for XP.

[@nikolakarapejevski]

dusa mid is garbage

[@joelhuckle4523]

"It's funny how I always play better live than when I watch it back" hahahaha

[@AtillaTheFun1337]

Many people seem to tell me Mid is the hardest lane to get the hang of, but I have an easier time with it (on average, of course). No having to deal with wombo combo duo bullshit like Veno and Ursa where you WILL die if you are one pixel out of position. It’s all within my control. And even if my matchup isn’t great, you can use the lane as a means to an end to gank some low level supports.

[@SpaceGhostNZ]

I don't suppose he got a carry coach too? Would love to see that!

[@despair8181]

I was confused by the title and then forgot ward also give creeps visions too and not heroes xdd, when i used to play mid i did this a lot to check if they have a ward on my hg without realizing it in this video context.

[@dark8118]

i think you messed up with subtitles not syncing to what you say. great video though!

[@NotLefty.]

Can't you global pull aggro tho ? Even without the ward ?

[@prayanpradhan]

dont think so. Global pull uses the same mechanics of requiring vision for creeps to follow up the hill.

[@hybridtheory9703]

You can globally pull yes. Even without the ward. The same as you can do it on axe to spin without a hero there 😊

[@NEBUL4]

there was a support couching, can you do a video like this with that one too ? great work

[@LucklessLex]

the edits need a little bit better care with audio, i had a little trouble listening to storm and grubby, while your commentary was loud, other than that this vid was easily understandable!

[@gendalfgray7889]

If enemy can pull agro from range creep anyway what the point of not putting ward?

[@Ss4Gogeta2011]

I actually noticed this a lot lately every time I reward their mid it makes my lane harder

[@balazsbodnar6488]

I need to know what grubby said about agro pulling

[@raulmontero8736]

Subs are unsynchronized

[@wsk1124]

I used to play mid then I quit to play pos 4. Mid is the most stressful lane. Adrian you should try mid then you know what I mean.

[@yuzycute]

yea mid is hard and only competitive players like mid, they're prolly the ones enjoying 1v1 fighting games

[@entropete]

IM GONNA GRUBBB

[@CocoXLarge]

K then just global aggro. wtf is the point of not seeing enemy hg.

[@prayanpradhan]

its not the point. its the CREEPS that need the enemy hero vision to follow him. If you dont have hg vision, your creeps dont have hg vision.

[@justmexer0-401]

Dont forget that even without a ward u can still click attack on the icons of any hero on the map that is showing and pull like that. I do that all the time when my ward gets deward, I play 7k bracket and not many people do this so yeah YW 😊

[@pragyasingh001]

We are talking about creeps having vision of hero in the video, which is only possible if there is ward in middle lane. This happens because creeps generally meet in the valley and they dont have vision uphill unless there is a ward.

[@shade4718]

u missed the point homie

[@nemes1s_aoe]

Ty iojesus

[@KybubStudios]

I do all this shit and I’m archon1. This is common knowledge lmao. Also he forgot to mention agro pulling when a creep is low or to creep agro a creep under a tower if last hitting isn’t safe

[@algorix8420]

I dont believe you do this with reason and you re archon 1

[@KybubStudios]

@@algorix8420 calibrated at crusader 3. 90% to archon 2 right now. I’m climbing. What sucks is role ques. I almost never win on a dual lane. Unless it’s safelane. Once I’m out of roles to Que for mid I have to select all. I have over 3,000 wins in dota. Almost 800 games as storm. My mid heroes are storm, TA, meepo and Medusa

[@KybubStudios]

@@algorix8420 bro I even stack ancients mud when I’m TA or Medusa cuz team doesn’t stack for me. I do it when a lane is cleared mid and they start to spawn

[@KybubStudios]

@@algorix8420 I noticed it’s easier to climb when u do party play with lower ranks too. But I just Que solo. I don’t cheese with party play. It’s boring

[@algorix8420]

@@KybubStudios ok I thought you were like stuck in archon. You are climbing so It s fine

[@cloudevyl]

coaching volume too low while your voice's volume too loud, Sir

[@SomeCallMeStone]

Is this tip that good? Can't they pull by using an attack command onto a hero in another lane?

[@oleksiifilatov2021]

It still forces them to use more brainpower at least 😅

[@SomeCallMeStone]

@@oleksiifilatov2021 fair enough, i guess I'm really in no position to be questioning stormstormer!

[@zzadrianzz]

In the example of Kunkka trying to pull the creeps against Shadow Fiend, if Kunkka clicked on a hero in another lane it wouldn't work because SF's creeps still don't see Kunkka, so they don't know they need to aggro him. Clicking on SF or a hero in a different lane would be the same. Hope that answers your question 🤞

[@SomeCallMeStone]

@@zzadrianzz thank you that does make sense!

[@MusicIsRealDope]

Soooo basically you take Grubby's content to make a video, add nothing to it AND you're advertising for more content stolen from Grubby. Brilliant, you won a dislike!

[@turquoisephoenix9931]

you new to youtube?

[@hamzakojak4230]

Why so butthurt Go do the same

[@MusicIsRealDope]

Because he's not the first one to do it should mean it's ok? let me tell you something it's called plagiarism so no it's not ok to take credit for other people's work, that's actually pathetic.@@turquoisephoenix9931

[@---we8bx]

Yet, you watch reaction channels and reused memes, it's the same thing. lol.

[@JasonRennie]

Dude. He made Stormstormer's stream 5x larger *and* summarized all the cryptic discussion. That deserves a like in my book. Lol