So many people say Epsin 🙄 It's pronounced Epson (on). ✅

Of the A3+, the Epson L18050 is the best, but in these you have to change or refill cartridges very often... more fiddling than printing.. ;)

Silly title for a video you must be controlled be big corporations thus you have no credibility

My 2005 Epson R800 CMY, photo black, red, blue and gloss optimiser. I was looking at new printers and could only see 6 ink printers. I was expecting a gray and green cartridge added to the R800 set, looks like things went backwards. I remember HP coming with a photo printer which had a grey cartridge around 2006...

Got an Epson XP-970 for £160 on Prime Day, my R800 has given up the ghost, R800 had Red, Blue,C,M,Y, Photo Black and a gloss optimiser

Ink carts are waaaaay too small. You'd be buying ink every week if you print multiple prints.

What a truly informative and helpful blog, thank you so much for this.

Sorry if this is a silly question but I'm new to all of this. Am I right to say that, If I print exclusively in black and white I don't have to worry about any of this? Thanks Caula

Great video. Would you though buy the p200 if you print lots of color prints and the p1000 for those gallery prints in larger sizes and longevity. Or just buy the p300 and p1000?. I sort of think the p300 as a "I only own one printer" as a pro photographer selling my work. The p200 if you are not printing for gallery/selling prints but need high quality prints (product/event prints for companies for example). For someone for whom photography is only a hobby the p200 is more than good enough for hang on the wall prints and gift cards ect would you agree?

Great video, any update on this? Hows the print using the dye ink? Thank you

The SL-D1000 can't produce a monotone colour without banding lines. The duplex unit doesn't feed the paper unless you put pressure on the back cover. It is incredibly flimsy and plastic compared to the D700/D800 when loading the paper roll. I had high hopes for this printer, unfortunately it is total garbage.

Very helpful - thank you!

So no go for digital negatives because of the dot spacing? This coming from someone who's not printed in over 20 years aka I know nothing.

Fascinating and very helpful.

What about EU customers;

Oh discontinued 😔

So the icc profile for colours and not for brightness? as from my understanding when I send my prints to a shop I tend to brightness the image a bit as prints come darker than screen. now I got myself a printer and trying to learn about things before printing my first image

You use this 8750 for digital negatives. There doesn't seem to be that much info on YT about what to look for in a printer to make them, such as the usefulness of greys, maybe even other colours working their way in even maybe having a PMK pyro effect. I say this after just looking at a straight black inked inkjet and wondering about its usefulness in this regard vs say the 8750.

She is a very good speaker and it was a good evening when she spoke at the Seven Sisters Camera Club in Eastbourne

Great stuff - fascinating lady and superb photos. Looking forward to the follow-up.

What's the equivalent model number that can do A3?

More video of the pictures and less video of you looking at them would be nice for future comparisons.

I have owned the Epson 3880 and then then the 800.I did lots of research on both the Canon and Epson. There was one blaring thing that stood out that made me go with Epson. Never regretted going with the Epson. My only disappointment with the latest P900 was the size of the ink cartridges had become smaller. I could print so many images with a set. Of all the times that the print stopped because one of the inks ran out and had to replace it, never could spot the area where it happened. I got out of photography back in 2017 and sold off everything. Looking forward to get the P900 later this year. I really miss making prints. Was happy that Epson finally made the change so that you no longer needed to swap MK and PK inks when going from fine art papers to the other type of paper. I also use to have quite a variety of papers. This time will limit to two papers, Epson Hot Press Bright and Baryta II. I also had a target test print for each paper and adjusted black and white points of the image to match what the paper could do.

Can you add the descriptions of the paper used and maybe the links to the products?

I have the 300 and the P900. Canon has VERY visible ink drop pattern... :(

it seems that the differentiation is in the detail. Everything else you describe seems to be fixable using a custom profile. Did you create profiles for both prior to your test? If so did you recheck to remove the magenta?

Tim I am devastated to learn that when the Canon Pro 300 ink waste pads fill up, it’s as cheap to buy a new printer, rather than being able to change the pads. It’s not lost on me that Canon make no mention of this fact in any of the promotional material.

I’ve owned the Epson P900 since start of this year and couldn’t be happier with my choice. Absolutely stunning prints and I’ve had zero issues with the printer. Plus the ink seems to last forever im on the original inks since February and I’ve done a lot of printing and test prints.

I’d love to see a comparison video between the Epson P900 and the Canon Pro 1000

Sam, I just bought my canon Pro-300 printer yesterday and your awesome video got me up and running. Thank you so much for your help. I will watch your other videos as well!

The cleaning cycle in the Canon waste a lot of ink. You can actually see the results of a cleaning cycle on the LCD of the PRO-300.

How did you manage to get the same bordersizes? When I print with a small border, the side of the border which gets into the printer first, is a little bit larger then the others.

Many thanks for comparing and providing insights of the results. At 18m12s you mention that perhaps profiling would take care of the minor magenta cast of the canon prints. But at least for epson printing b&w with the printer's b&w mode works without a profile. Did I get wrongly?

I seem to get better results with the Canon printer using the Canon print software rather than printing directly from Lightroom. Have you noticed any difference between the two printing methods? If so, could this explain the marginal difference in sharpness?

Hey guys can you also do square format printing with the pro 200 or IP8750?

What about the gloss optimizer spray on the canon? Isn’t that a big advantage to eliminate gloss differential? Why didn’t you discuss this?

When I was researching these two printers, I came across an interesting detail - which may explain the sharpness issue. When you have a photo to print you should ensure it is set to 360 (or 720, 1440, 2880, 5760) DPI for Epson and 300 for Canon (or 600, 1200, 2400, 4800) - as these are the optimal sizes for the print head. If you don’t, the printer then tries it’s own calculation to compensate. For example, if your image DPI is 315 on the Epson it will try convert it to 360, which can result in loss of detail.

I can get a full suite of PRO300 inks for $124.00. Individual ink tanks are about $12.00 each. For my moderate use (1-3 prints a week), the lower replacement cost is easier to manage financially. I believe the Epson P700 ink carts are about $40.00 each (if memory serves me). An entire set is very costly for my budget. Just my $0.02.

Excellent review! Thank you for that! I wonder if there is a possibility that we have a comparison between Pro-200 and ET-8550. That would also be interesting.

Tim, your comment about black switching on the latest P700/P900 is misleading. They have ten channels so there is no black switching as there used to be on the P600/P800 and earlier Epson printers.

My Canon Pro 300 eats ink every time you turn it on. This actually is significant and I believe the Epson does not have as bad a start up cost. I have started to batch up my printing to minimise the number of times I have to turn it on. This is a big pain. I would probably have chosen the Epson if I had known how much ink the Canon would consume just initialising after you turn it on.

A very interesting comparison. Thank you, Tim.

Interesting discussion - thank you. I own a 300 which has served me well for 2+ years now. My one complaint on the 300 is the small cartridge size, I would prefer larger, purely for the logistical purposes. Picking the type of black required on the Epsom seems from my perspective is a significant drawback. The major niggle for me on the Canon at setup time was the system automatically defaults to WiFi. I don't use WiFi for printing I prefer wired ethernet. Setting up for wired ethernet was an unnecessary and complex process. Black mark.

Do you mean you used bicarb soda?

This was very useful. Thanks. I like to frame my prints without glass - maybe with or without a mount. Getting the paper to lie flat without using mount glue against a backboard is challenging though. I'm finding the William Turner stays quite flat at size A3. Would you have a guess as to which of these textured papers would be best for this aspect please? Maybe it's just paper weight, but I was thinking the texture might also be giving it some stability? Gluing to a backboard - I've never found a trick for getting the paper to align with the board. Even though the 3M photo mount glue says you can move prints around after bringing the 2 surfaces together - it's not true. Thanks in advance

Hi, i was planning to buy this photoprinter Epson ecotank et 8550(in white version)in amazon USA..but Im not certain if i could use this in 220v 50-60hz.. The seller in amazon usa told me that it is 110-120v..So I looked elsewhere got an eye to Dell-USA site since they have that in white version and told me it supports 120-230v 50-60hz, told me too that the info in amazon-usa for this printer which supports only 110-120v is somewhat error in the specification.. But in the actual, it could use 220v 50-60hz.. please enlighten me..

Thank You

I have a G3060 tanker....2 years old....print weekly.....still on the "starter ink" that came with it.....works great...I love it.

Fantastic video, thank you! Wonder why canon doesn’t do these themselves

Archival is overestimated. I'll be dead in 30 years if not before that. The archive I leave behind is my digital files. Feel free to re-print those if you want.