Thankyou for kindly sharing a solid demonstration and an articulate explanation of what internal training is and that we still need the external. I like that you call them obvious skill and hidden skill, it's a very good way of putting it especially for a western mind. I'll be honest and say I went too far down the rabbit hole of internal training and becoming a bit woo woo after doing what I can describe as a very external system of Wing Chun. So naturally it made sense to learn the internal stuff. But now I've realised you need both as a whole for it to work to it's full potential. As you mentioned about Yin Yang early in the video, I think it's really important for any practitioner who's unaware to fully understand this important principle 🙏

Lovely clear demonstration. Thanks for sharing. 🙂🙏🏼👊🏼

Finally some real wing chun compared to just talking about the "energy" and "skeletal structure" and "1700 internal wing chun". Everyone wants to feel special lol

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Excellent as always 👍

Excellent as always 👍

Practical physics.Alan and Adam Chan break it down so well.

Totally agree about the hypnotism thing and exploiting people. That is what certain others are doing. Always love the way you train. However, I do have some different opinions on the pedagogy, that people can learn quicker when you roll just under them sometimes or at least pass through that for a min or so. The inexperienced still need the visual as they integrate it into the body. Can confirm you are very controlled and although there is a sound, it's a soft impact. On that other person we are not naming, I bet you he has injured people. And internally in a very significant way too<-conjecture, yes, but I've seen him hurt people with my own eyes.

Never get bored of your sharing, we are kindred spirits in this art. Playing with my neighborhood tough guy taught me this years ago. His noncompliance taught me control is very important in real world applications. W.C. and BJJ are very similar in this regard. Sifu as always thanks for all your sharing, you are truly a gem. 🙏🏼

Amen bro 🙏🦾

Nice to see that there is still some good Wing Chun content on the internet, alot of useful information here. This has been a good series.

Excellent. As there are no secrets, just lot of small things to discover! Nice sharing 👍🏻

thx I like woo woo lol, thank you so much.

A step further into short strike multiple attack direction! Great Job!

Great realistic real world Sharing. Nothing mysterious, live training . Real handling and close body handling! Hard work! No woo woo!

1:50 Hi Alan what are some counters you would do if someone caught your kick like that or like how the thai kickboxers wrap their arms around your leg?

With regards to the woo woo stuff, being one of the heavy critics of "chi bullshido" I've always said that the problem isn't "internal arts", it's not "chi use" nor "tai chi" itself, it's the specific claims of supposed abilities that don't comport with reality, every explaination you've shown in this series of videos was a true, sober explaination of how these skills are actually used! Great videos, more people should recognize how it actually works, common pseudo scientific super power claims hurt the reputation of kung fu, these videos have been a great service to chinese martial arts! Great work🙏💪

well, there are things that are really hard to explain, in terms of the body effects over the receiver - people usually think that the hopping is fake, but there are some energies that are much worse, like An - press down, that makes one's center of mass go down - not only taichi guys, but many japanese arts and other chinese internal arts have that - once you touch the guy with such dantien (or whatever) control, you feel like a 1000 kg stone was put in your arms and you can't resist but fall to the ground.

This series so far is a blast!

Truly an illumination of what is often mystified. I've been training martial arts for over 20 years. If I had an instructor like you early on I would be leaps and bounds ahead of where I am now. Grateful to have access to your content, sir.

Well said !

Very clear exclamation 🙏🏻

Thank you so much for your valuable insights Sifu! I would like to know, if you are using the same kind of Heaven Man Earth Stretching / Force like in Tai Chi Chuan and if you could one day eleborate the relationship between the Weapons in Wing Chun Long Pole and Butterfly Knives and empty hand Wing Chun. Because there is a lot of mystfication in that part of the system too right? Do you need to train the weapons to be a complete Wing Chun practicioner, what special qualities, skills do you see in the weapons section, that is still valuable to learn? Thank you so much again, i am very thankful for your precious work and your knowledge, which you are sharing with us!

Exactly! 👍

5:07 Alan was showing us how when we push, the trick is to push UP AND OUT not just OUT. And then, being loose, punches, strikes, come out more natural in place like THE SNAKE is meant to. 🙏💯

Thx

That's what good wing chun looks like folks.

What do you mean by sinking? And also, when you "stretch" his tissue - is that the fascia is you're manipulating? Great video. Well done!

Alan makes a good point. When he shows us the QUAN, his tan can become a wrist LOP and BONG can go underneath like the EAGLE CLAW. So many variations unlocked when we break it down. 2:10 I know what he means. About the snake. He’s talking about receiving energy. Letting him pass. Easing him in just to push him away or hit. That was really good. I think the idea was that we can’t just rely on pushing and pulling alone, that we’ve got to be able to communicate that pain and discomfort. Control, with hitting, but balance is taken out, and we move em around too. All those components have to flow. 😎🙏💯

man always love your videos. been following you for 15 years

The basics are your foundation. The foundation training you should do always! Love the idea of the training and skills developed being layers which we added onto basic skills or training.

Great discussion. I recently watched this "internal" discussion of "structure" vs. "frame": kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWjTi5mQgaqFbas&ab_channel=ExperienceWingChunandTaijibySifuSergio ...and am so glad you posted your video here. Although you may not have made this as a response it does provide a nice counterpoint to the mystical, BS side of WC. Thank you for that!

No blocks, no techniques, no structures😎😎😎 Kung fu is a vibe, an idea without ideas. Harness the Chi flowing through the universe and the rest takes care of itself. Feel energy surge from the ground, through the dan tien, through the roof of the mouth, against the knuckles, then back through the skull against the pavement to return to the earth. Joking aside, there's generally a valid point being muddied in semantics. You're doing a great job demystifying these misconceptions.

Great clip 😊 The complexity and sophistication of layers within a seemingly simple movement is a paradox and one that is hard to appreciate unless it is felt. Harder still is to successfully apply those skills at a high level even when they have been taught. Truly a lifetime of learning and refining. 🙏

Always a delight to see this treasures 🙏🏻🌈

Very good explanation.

You are still one of the best teachers I would not learn wing chun from anyone else right now... I gave up on wing chun, started to do kickboxing instead, because there is just no one else teaching like you wing chun in my country...

Alan, I have a question that I seriously think could use a video. What place do you think the boxing/kickboxing "high guard" has in Wing Chun? When to initiate high guard, and when to avoid it? The reason I say this is because before I was trained in ANYTHING, I was in a bit of a street fight ganged up by some other kids. My default survival instinct was shelling up in very tight high guard, and I got off unscathed. I threw a lot less punches than I took, but nothing was hitting me clean. It's obviously not without its flaws and openings, but there's no denying that high guard has a valuable place in fights, even without gloves. What do you think?

The de-linking and linking seems to be similar to the concept of disappear and appear in Tai Chi Chuan.

The Gu Lao movement you show reminds me to the way Chris Collins (Leung Ting / Chen Chuen Fun) is moving in Chi Sao. Do you know him and his influences? Has Gu Lao maybe find it's way into the LT / CCF Method?

EXCELLENT video! Love wing chun!!🙏

Sifu Orr, I have a lot of respect for you because your a student of Sifu Robert Chu who I greatly admire and who also taught my first Wing Chun Sifu back in the late 80's when I studied with them. But I need to say something regarding this topic since in my Wing Chun Journey I was made aware of and discovered GM Yip Man's 3rd HK student, GM Chu Shong Tin. The internal skills he achieved were second to none, including GM Yip Man himself who gave him the honorific "King of Siu Nim Tau" as CST had surpassed GM Yip Man's own skills. None of the "internal" skills you have demonstrated here come even remotely close to what CST was capable of during his lifetime. Your demonstration of internal skills are very basic and representative of every branch of HK Wing Chun under students of GM Yip Man. CST's teaching, abilities and understanding of Wing Chun were completely different. I have seen hundreds of videos of GM CST himself as well as his students doing things no other branches of Wing Chun can. Some of his students like Sifu John Kaufman, Sifu Nima King, Sifu Marty Anderson, and others have a very different methodology for how they develop their unique internal engine to generate their specific power. Look up either John Kaufman, or Nima King through the Mindful Wing Chun channel here on YT or on the Marital Man channel on YT where you can see Nima King teaching seminars and being interviewed by Kierin aka, the Marital Man, and tell me that there is no such thing as internal Wing Chun or that what you and all the other branches of HK Wing Chun do is the same thing.

Calibrating, learning from each other and in a live environment…simple words, many fractals of actions 👊

1:32 Do you catch front kicks in wing chun? Is it similar to a muay thai style catch?

Profound understanding of pressure and centre control. Super high level listening skills and always steps ahead. Seamless flow whilst constantly adapting to change. Microscopic hidden skill. Constantly cutting down the opponents movement options to an inevitable consequence. Amazing insights, as always, Sifu. Thank you 🙏

1:48 Hi Alan what would this movement be called in wing chun? Also, what kind of block would you use against a head kick at that kind of range?

10:50 Hi Alan is this principle similar to 12:00 of this video below? kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJCTi4NrhqqXprssi=F0WyuD3ZHLDFDudh

Is this Robert Chu, wing chun?

External Wing Chun = what moves you do. The technique you use as you punch, your precision and hand eye coordination Internal Wing Chun = How you move, the amount of your mass you can apply into each movement Both are important but don’t become a slave to either I have to say, I think your understanding of external is incredible, but I don’t think you know internal at all. I’ve trained with some of CST students and when they “turn it on” it’s like the pressure melts away and your touching in immovable post, you’re floating on your feet and any pressure you apply to them comes right back at you. That’s the best way I can explain it and when you look as a bystander you see no change other than the change in the other person right? So you explain it perfectly when you said “hidden skill” but I think it’s extremely difficult to quantify it and I only say that, because while you’re showing us here, I don’t notice the change in your partner that I’ve seen in others etc

Explaining what can be a difficult thing to converse and do in simple words and principles. Ying and yang. Thankyou sifu great teachings.