I have a question on the hot water outlet on top. I want to install an immersion heater but the 22mm copper pipe runs across the nut where the heater will be installed. Would it be okay to rise the pipe up about 6" to make room for the heater? or is there a reason why the 90deg bend is thigh to the top of the cylinder? A Great tutorial by the way
@loving-plumbing3 күн бұрын
@@Kevin-bu8st thanks. Perfectly fine to rise it. Just make sure you definitely tee in the vent pipe.
@DavidDefossez20 күн бұрын
question, I'm thinking to use the jackoboard as well for my shower install that's coming up. What do you use to cut the board to size? (it looked so clean on yours) 😀
@johnshaw801324 күн бұрын
Could you not get your arm out of the bottom hole to smooth over the top hole fill?
@markfernandes2467Ай бұрын
Orry, what areas do you cover?
@andypag1071Ай бұрын
Is that boss white?
@no-ic3rgАй бұрын
Quality job
@RizkyChannel55Ай бұрын
Nice shering
@quickgasservices5223Ай бұрын
Excellent video, did my first Buteline rad extension last month. Its actually very simple system.
@garryritson77122 ай бұрын
Very nice install. Love it,. And you and bailey as usual smashed it. Great work guys.
@loving-plumbing2 ай бұрын
Thank you 👍👍
@nishanckarunatillake33612 ай бұрын
Thanks this is a really nicely done video. Small question is it better to do the flush or power flush before installing the new boiler or after. Just wondering if it is done before (using the old boiler to heat it up), the sediments in the pipes and radiators won’t go through the new boiler
@markcostello27342 ай бұрын
Something to think about - I always thought a plate heat exchanger should be piped countercurrent Eg boiler flow top / boiler return bottom - system flow top system return bottom Just think of a combi plate heat exchanger - mcw and boiler return are together as are hot out and boiler flow If you leave it like that the flow to the system will be at the boiler return temperature ie 20 deg lower then you require - plus the temperature degradation loss To quote Andrew Millward - hope that helps 😂
@loving-plumbing2 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it is piped that way. So each side is opposite. But the flow enters the bottom from the boiler. System flow leaves from the top. I don't believe it makes a huge difference which way round it is installed but could be wrong. Thanks
@markcostello27342 ай бұрын
Didn’t watch till the end before making a comment 😮😂 Can remember a heat geek video on a commercial plant room in a school where they couldn’t get the rads to temperature and the plate was piped like yours Keep up the content good to see the experiences of others in the trade 👍
@loving-plumbing2 ай бұрын
@markcostello2734 Haa thanks. You had me panicking then. It was all working lovely. Thanks for watching.
@JesterEric2 ай бұрын
They have a reset button linked to the thermostat. If engaged it wont heat. If you have a range cooker that heats water the water my get too hot and reset the immersion if you have forgotten to switch it off
@PlumbLikeTom2 ай бұрын
That is a sweet install mate, I've just priced something similar for a customer, I'm always nervous about pressurising old systems
@loving-plumbing2 ай бұрын
Thanks Tom. Hope you are well. It definitely takes a bit of the fear out of the job, leaving it open vented. The plate worked great.
@bryandumbrell86262 ай бұрын
Nice looking job Luke
@loving-plumbing2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much Bryan. 👍
@magicalsounds79662 ай бұрын
Why is the pump on the return pipe ?
@loving-plumbing2 ай бұрын
It's not. It's on the flow 👍🏻👍🏻
@magicalsounds79662 ай бұрын
@@loving-plumbing So, if the flow from the boiler goes to the bottom of the plate heat exchanger, when it exits, it exits from the top? If yes, why? I’m just an apprentice 👍
@loving-plumbing2 ай бұрын
@@magicalsounds7966 so it's opposite to each other. Flow in the bottom from the boiler so it heats up the return as it comes through on the other side. The two systems never actually mix. Only transfer heat.
@tomstrutton43512 ай бұрын
So if the vent and cold feed come all the way down to the cupboard….why use a plate?
@loving-plumbing2 ай бұрын
To separate the potential problems, the old original system could cause a modern boiler. Too risky pressurising the existing system. So playing it safe really.
@tomstrutton43512 ай бұрын
@@loving-plumbing I’d never pressurise an old system either…. But an open vented boiler may have been ok in this scenario….pump so low down….no pumping over issues..and the fact the old boiler lasted so long…testimant to quite a good clean system. But I get your point
@legendhero992 ай бұрын
If the cold feed gate valve is open, does that mean that cold water is going into the cylinder as you are working? Or did you run the shower to the extent that you used it to empty the cold tank and drop the level in the cylinder as well?
@ryanthornborough18202 ай бұрын
Lovely install!
@loving-plumbing2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much .
@normanboyes49832 ай бұрын
Interesting job - how are they producing DHW?
@loving-plumbing2 ай бұрын
They have a separate direct unvented cylinder . Strange layout . Thanks
@griffithsheating2 ай бұрын
Nice work lads 👌 we’ve just done a very very similar job to that one 😎
@loving-plumbing2 ай бұрын
Nice one, thank you. I look forward to seeing your installation. Hopefully, your old boiler wasn't as heavy !
@CommercialGasEngineerVideos2 ай бұрын
Loving this plumbing video
@loving-plumbing2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. I shall watch your videos 👍🏻
@holmesy3212 ай бұрын
Hi, very useful video - thanks. Just a quick one. I have a gate valve between my cold water cylinder and the hot water, and also the second outlet for a pumped shower the same as this. In order to drain down as you suggest, does that result you essentially draining the cold water storage tank fully, and then the top of the HW cylinder will drain?
@dontknow7102 ай бұрын
Why is this called budget? Would you use part plastic in high end jobs too?
@murdogordon30912 ай бұрын
Do you need to strengthen the roof trusses if you put a tank in the attic? There must be a fair weight when full of water. I'm planning putting my thermal store in the attic. Thanks
@loving-plumbing2 ай бұрын
Yep. You definitely want to put it above a structural wall or have a decent timber support base built.
@murdogordon30912 ай бұрын
@@loving-plumbing Thanks for the speedy reply.
@charliefox69872 ай бұрын
great vid, if you were called to install a boiler but the customer was not willing to agree to power flush the system before hand , would you agree to the install ? even tho by default this would make the warranty invalid (I assume) and would you make note of this on the commisioning documents
@loving-plumbing2 ай бұрын
Power flush is not mandatory. A chemical flush is.
@garethfraser52112 ай бұрын
Does the accumulator just have one pipe connection? So not like in and out ?
@loving-plumbing2 ай бұрын
Yep, just one. It just branches off the cold feed.
@charliefox69872 ай бұрын
Great video for learning 👍
@topbanana83432 ай бұрын
Well done dad
@xclusive4632 ай бұрын
Can this 35KW sufficiently provide hot water for shower if two people using at the same time? 🤔 or would they need to take turns thanks ?
@Brutus19623 ай бұрын
No need to smear the threads with paste, think about the next guy/gal that has to change the immersion heater. Paste both sides of fibre washer and that’s it.
@brotherjohnno3 ай бұрын
Lots of useful information, im thinking of jumping ship and start fitting these but wasn't too sure if the combis stood out from the competition lime the 200 does. Having watched this i might give the 050 combi a go. Many thanks
@richardlewis53163 ай бұрын
I wish all immersion heater changes went as easily as your demonstration!! Many time I have had to use heat to undo the immersion and a big hammer!! Draining is simple - switch off the top tank filler and run the bath hot tap till it stops. There might be a small amount of water to mop up with a vac. I disagree with using paste on a fibre washer for two reasons. A fibre washer is designed to expand if it gets any water on it so makes a watertight seal even if the immersion face is slightly damaged. Putting paste on both sides negates this ability and will make the immersion almost impossible to remove next time.
@davidlewi13133 ай бұрын
Worchester bosch don’t touch them better boilers out there
@connordow23254 ай бұрын
Are they dropping the ceiling mate? Would love to be able to put pipe in like that but how would they board them ceilings?
@loving-plumbing4 ай бұрын
Yes. Not usually able to get away with it, but there are steels everywhere.
@hvacro4 ай бұрын
Top🎉
@richardlewis53164 ай бұрын
I have uses Hughes plastic pipe for heating for many years and do kike the push fit connectors which can be undone. But for under the floor the insulated Buteline does look better as pushing insulation along pipes is a pain!. I'll see if it is available at Plumbfix or Buildbase.(Derby)
@damon82894 ай бұрын
*PromoSM* 😢
@LittleNinjah4 ай бұрын
Love the video, superb work
@loving-plumbing4 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻
@130unleashed4 ай бұрын
Love the music for when you was putting on the back plate on 🤣💯
@Hvac-dude4 ай бұрын
Good job 😊😊
@loving-plumbing4 ай бұрын
Thank you 👍🏻
@davidlilley20684 ай бұрын
Top job , good commentary
@loving-plumbing4 ай бұрын
Thanks. I try 🤣👍🏻
@Andrew-xl4po4 ай бұрын
Hi every problem you come across I have come across.Like you mentioned it’s all down to 1st fix and forward planning.Well done it’s looks great and you can’t rush a good job lol 👌
@loving-plumbing4 ай бұрын
Thank you 👍🏻.
@JSSHandP4 ай бұрын
Cracking job mate 👍 those tiles look like they should have been vein match
@loving-plumbing4 ай бұрын
Thank you. I like what they did with the tiles. Always tricky 👍🏻
@user-dc8eb6xc5r4 ай бұрын
Lovely job mate nothing wrong with those flexible wastes, cause yourself problems otherwise
@loving-plumbing4 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻. Yea definitely the best use for them.
@alimack54894 ай бұрын
Those tiles are class bet that cost a few quid £££ top video mate.
@loving-plumbing4 ай бұрын
Thank you. Yes I'm pretty sure they weren't cheap 👍🏻👍🏻
@paullbennett29234 ай бұрын
Think i would of tried to get a coat of paint on those walls beforehand. I know its not really your job to do it , but for a little extra work it would improve the look of your work.
@jrdn924 ай бұрын
Installed my first one on Thursday, quite impressed besides the PRV facing inwards had me so confused for a while haha
@loving-plumbing4 ай бұрын
Yeah I know what you mean. The oil boilers are also great 👍🏻
@martinwright70934 ай бұрын
Looks great for the money. Yes, the filling loop sticks out but of course they're supposed to be removed when not in use (?!) so it could still work in a cupboard at a pinch.
@loving-plumbing4 ай бұрын
You're right and it does come with caps. But who ever caps them 🤣😉. Definitely a good buy.
@macpatel78104 ай бұрын
Looks decent on the whole. Where did you buy it for £600 ? Did you say it includes the flue and smart thermostat too ?
@loving-plumbing4 ай бұрын
Williams plumbing merchants
@macpatel78104 ай бұрын
@@loving-plumbing thank you
@paulstevens53294 ай бұрын
Swapped over from fiting baxi to navien no comparison
@macpatel78104 ай бұрын
@@paulstevens5329 I assume that Navien is better from your perspective ?
@paulstevens53294 ай бұрын
@@macpatel7810 out of the box, nothing compares
@tirvplumbing4 ай бұрын
Navien do seem like a good brand. Does the budget boiler have the navien app integration as well?
@loving-plumbing4 ай бұрын
Definitely worth giving a try. Yes the app works with the smart controller 👍🏻.